Overwatch Fan Reacts to How it FEELS To Play Soldier (Team Fortress 2)
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Overwatch Fan reacts to How it FEELS To Play Soldier (Team Fortress 2)
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How to rocket jump:
1. Think about where you want to go, and point your rocket launcher at a wall or floor so the explosion sends you in the direction you want to go
2. Use a regular jump to get in the air and hold the crouch button before you hit the ground (if you are already airborne, you can skip this step)
3. Before you hit the ground, fire the rocket, and the explosion will send you flying the opposite direction (aiming directly down blasts you up, aiming at a wall while you are in the air sends you away from the wall)
Just a bit of advice, getting good at rocket jumping can take hundreds if not thousands of hours. This isn’t like Overwatch where you can fly with a button, it’s an extremely complex mechanic. Don’t expect to get it right quickly. I have 5000 hours in the game and I know plenty of people who have fine tuned the art far more than I have.
Edit: That being said, I believe in you if you put in the time and patience to practice!
REACT #pootispunk Please this video conveys the essence, the entire gameplay of Team Fortress 2!
8:13 here you I'll need this ua-cam.com/play/PLxEAtgFEr-9mzR7GXk4C6P0oUkAc9LJjG.html
Pyro can airblast quite a lot of stuff (rockets, grenades, medic crossbows, etc) but not bullets, and airblasting uses up a significant amount of ammo, and it takes timing to reflect, and on top of that you need aim to reflect it back at the opponent. So to be a deadly airblaster pyro takes skill and practice
Ah, the How it Feels series -- always a classic. Frankly, for the work LazyPurple puts in these, he should call himself CrazyPurple.
But nope he’s too lazy to change name.
@@marcoantonioramosrodas8935 hence the name he choose, suits him very much 😁
He has a second channel called that?
Edit: I misremembered it it was lazier purple nvm
Naaah crazy purple taken eheheh, mines CrazyLiLpurple, similar but still
Quick explanation of the rocket boots:
Soldier has 2 pairs of boots. The first and more relevant ones are the gunboats, which drastically reduce the damage taken from rocket jumping. The second pair, the one he showed off, are called Mantreads. They allow you to take sharper turns and less knockback while rocketjumping. These are almost exclusively used on Trolldier and also have the niche use of being able to stomp on somebody’s head.
Technically, Soldier has rocket boots by default: It can be seen triggering every time when Soldier rocket jumps. This happens even when you wear a banner or the parachute.
*The Shovel ( market gardener ):* hitting perfect time you land on enemy after a rocket jump instant kill every class in the game ( Almost ), also after a rocket jump and bunny hopping in perfect game tick can instant kill the same way do normally ( very hard to pull off )
@@ItzWolfy247 Only the Market Gardener can do that. The stock shovel or any other soldier melees cannot.
@@bobbytonson5890 K, got it
@@bobbytonson5890 also, heavies can survive a single market garden or a single stomp at full health. However if done right you can both market garden and stomp a heavy for a instant kill. Though it requires extremely good timing and luck.
6:48 They are celebrating because the Soldier killed the enemy Medic. As in previous videos, LazyPurple is covering competitive TF2, which is, despite how chaotic he's making it look in the videos, extremely tactical. Much more so than Overwatch. Killing the enemy Medic is often a great feat in a comp game, because it means the enemy loses all their progress towards an ÜberCharge. Much of the dynamics in comp TF2 is determined by which team is currently ahead in building their Über.
The reference to comp TF2 is also why he talked about the roaming Soldier earlier, as the guy who guards the flanks or jumps around the map. The other Soldier in the team would be the pocket Soldier, named after the term pocket heals, because he almost always stays around the main combo and protects the Medic.
And also, Interstellar music
god i can feel every fucking enemy start looking at me the moment i come out in my very classy medic fit. one day i'll buy the BURLY BEAST as god intended.
I don't know if tf2 comp is more tactical than overwatch comp
@@mariustan9275 The nature of the game makes Overwatch less tactical. Unlimited ammunition, higher damage output, and ultimates are less valuable than an übercharge in TF2. You can't lose progress to an ultimate, either. Therefore, there's a lot more spamming going on and fights are a lot more chaotic. Many heroes are even designed to cause chaos in the game with their skills. It mostly comes down to TF2 being less forgiving of mistakes, which means you have to plan your actions better. Overwatch also hasn't copied the 5CP game mode yet, which requires the most team coordination.
@@Junakase Yeah, that is true. I've played both, and alongside unlimited ammunition, many reload all at once or have automatic weapons or both. In fact I'm pretty sure the only person to reload one at a time is Ashe. This means its much easier to spam because there's less downtime for doing so, and automatic weapons only require tracking, not aim. And yes, you are right. Ubercharge is entirely lost on death, while OW ult charge is kept on death. Also this is more of an OW 1.2 thing, but the meta right now revolves on tanks just switching to whatever counters the other tank or team, which just turns the game into glorified rock paper scissors to counter whatever rather than relying on skill. A lot of players hate it.
Quick Side Note: Pyro's Alt-fire (right click) is called the Airblast, and it functions similarly to Genji's Deflect.
However, Airblast can only reflect projectiles. To compensate, all reflected projectiles (rockets, bombs, Jarate bottles, etc.) are mini-crits (35% damage boost).
to quickly summarize the trolldier loadout and the purpose of each item in said loadout:
rocket jumper: it's a normal rocket launcher which deals absolutely 0 damage both to enemies and yourself making the safe rocket jumps it's main and only purpose.
mantreads (the boots): they give you more air strafing controll and reduced knockback but their main aspect is the ability to deal damage to enemies by jumping on their heads from great heights.
market gardener (the shovel): it deals normal damage but has reduced swing speed. however it deals critical damage during a rocket jump so if you do a rocket jump and then swing early enough to hit your enemy WHILE still airbone you deal 195 damage which is enough to one shot every class other than soldier and heavy.
Actually, the main aspect of the mantreads is the air control and the reduced knockback, since those 2 stats help a lot with hitting your Market Gardeners. The goomba stomps are a nice bonus, but are not something you want to actively go for most of the time, because it compromises your ability to market garden people, which is stronger than stomping them.
The playstyle Trolldier revolves around the “Market Gardener” a unique melee weapon that gets triple damage whenever you’re rocket jumping
Yes that was Pendulum, part of oldschool TF2 meme culture was any sort of airshot esp in frag videos you should add in the song.
Also as for rocket jumping, it's def not easy for beginners to learn so don't know why chat was giving you a hard time about it. There's a whole sub-community of TF2 dedicated for just rocket jumping, and there's tone of custom maps to train beginners. I also recommend watching the SFM animation "Zero to Hero." It's a great tribute that shows the rocket jumping community and the jumps they do.
Well at minimum shooting a rocket at your feet and jumping is a useful tool to get to the frontlines faster.
Btw in these clips 7:21 lazy purple is using a melee weapon which in exchange for slower swing speed and no random crits, in return gives crits while rocket jumping. The weapon’s name is the market gardener if you want more info
Pyro can basically reflect almost every projectile in the game, that goes from flares to arrows to rockets to grenade pills, everything but the sticky grenades turn into pyro's own damage, so you will take damage from a reflected rocket, but you won't take damage from a reflected sticky bomb (unless you detonate it yourself)
Any slow projectiles can be reflected.
@@marcoantonioramosrodas8935 Except the bison and I think the pomson. Also you can reflect Huntsman arrows and Crusader's Crossbow bolts if you have the skill for it
The rescue ranger projectile can be reflected
@@marcoantonioramosrodas8935 The term "projectile" in this case means anything not hitscan. Hitscan includes mainly bullets, as well as anything else that hits instantly once the weapon fires.
R.I.P. Rick May, voice actor for the TF2 Soldier.
Next will be my favorite class… How it feels to play Engineer.
Kinda bummed out that ya won’t be able to see the original version of one specific scene in that video though. The scene in particular was absolutely hilarious, but Lazy Purple had to edit it due to copyright about a year ago.
Wait which parts?
@@zanwrightmfwr756 as i remember it was the part where he went shirtless and absorbed the rockets for his sentry
Yeah rocket jump can look dificult and advanced rocket jump actually is, but you only need the basic one to enjoy most of the time; just jump+crouch and aim at your feet, if you can reach to the roof of the houses in Harvest you are doing it good.
Pyro can reflect most projectiles (not all, there are some projectiles that can't be reflected) the ones you gab reflect at stickies, grenades, rockets, and even arrows(assuming you're skilled enough) just to name a few
Kieran! As a TF2 player with 2K hours, Rocket Jumping is an artform. The feature is legitimately a glitch in the code for TF2/Source Engine that allows grenades, rockets, etc to send you flying with very specific conditions (crouch and jump at the exact same time) and it takes hours upon hours to train yourself. Because if you look left faster than you are moving left, or you press the W key ANY TIME you are airborne you drop like an overweight fly. You're donezo. It's a fun skill to learn, but a punishing one to master. Learn basics and pogo, there are jump academies for it.
Not a glitch!
It was intended for soldiers to be able to rocket jump and demos to sticky jump
100% not a glitch, even in early version of tf classic youd be able to fly
@@nathanfivecoate5848 It was a glitch originally, just not on TF2, rocket jumping originated as a bug on Quake, that carried over to GoldSrc as a semi-feature, and as a fully feature in Source.
9:07 hell no , one is jumping the other is blasting himself choosing a direction to blast on to boost himself on every possible surface
Pyro can reflect not bullets (hitscan), but projectiles (rockets, pipe grenades, stickies, a literal jar of piss, anything that has travel time unless it's stated otherwise), it was implemented as an alt-fire after a while, when the devs found out that a low range class has a hard time against power classes (mainly soldier).
It can also push other players, so I can try to recreate my first (cheesy) play of the game in OW2 (I'm new to this) that I got after pushing the entire enemy team off a cliff with Lucio.
Pyro's airblast, as well as knocking back enemy players, allows him (her? them? it?) to redirect projectile weapons in a short cone directly in front of them. LazyPurple did a highlights video centered around it called "Return to Offender" which is still one of my favorite TF2 videos.
Airblast doesn't make Pyro a direct counter to Soldier, but it does mean that Soldier-Pyro is one of the more even matchups in the game. The airblast cooldown is almost the same as the fire-rate of the rocket launcher, so part of the Soldier counterplay can be delaying a shot to bait an airblast and catch the Pyro while he's vulnerable, or swapping to a secondary shotgun which can't be reflected. Pyro, on the other hand, usually wants to try to harry the Soldier with flames to bait the panic rocket, or try to use their faster Degreaser weapon swapping to get to their secondary shotgun before the Soldier has fully pulled out theirs.
2:15 When one team wins, all of their weapons get critical hits and the opposing team enters "humiliation mode", where they lose access to their weapons. This goes on for a few seconds before the round completely ends.
Always glad to see new content creators doing some tf2, also i actually recommend lazy purple vids for guides since their fun and help you play the class. But then again there’s alot of good guides out there also rocket jump practice maps.
The direct hit is probably my favorite soldier weapon. The rockets travel a lot faster and gives out major damage when making direct contact with a target (hence the name). I like using it to become an explosive sniper if I was able to successfully flank the enemy team.
But if it hits the environment, the blast radius is a lot smaller and weaker; so you can't rocket jump/surf well with it.
If I'm not mistaken though the direct hit small splash damage only applies to enemies and it acts like a normal rocket for the soldier who fired it making you able to rocket jump as normal with the only difference is the rocket speed
@@Nothing-zl1ni You're probably right. I'm going off on memory...and it's been almost a decade since I've played TF2.
I like to sniff glue so the beggars is my favorite
My favorite melee weapon.
Pyro reflects rockets, demo palettes and sticky bomb. He can also extinguish teammates that are on fire
Let’s goooo I love these reactions Kieran you the goat
Lazy Purple the real GOAT, but thank you 🙏🏾
I had an idea once for a game called "Attention, Everyone: I Have A Rocket Launcher" where it's like Portal, in that it's a series of challenge/testing rooms, but your tool is a rocket launcher with alternate firing modes you slowly unlock over the course of the game, and some chambers are moral choice setups with cardboard cutouts where you have to "solve problems" using your rocket launcher and different choices result in different responses from the observers. "Get the cat out of the tree" but you shoot the cat, and the observers respond "well, that's one way to solve the problem"
Trolldier is about using two weapons you can unlock in TF2, one is the orange rocket launcher called the rocket jumper that deals no damage to enemies but deals no damage to yourself when you rocker jump. The other is a shovel called the market gardener which when you are rocket jumping deals critical/triple damage to enemies
5:21 - That is a real quote. Bainbridge actually said that out loud right after Oppenheimer thought his famous quote: "Now I am become death, destroyer of worlds."
6:40
You do can make enemies accidentally rocket jump since the rockets make you take knockback and you can use it to get away
Btw troldier is doing CRITICAL HITS EVERYTIME you use showel in mid air thats why its so popular its free cryts
Love you and your videos as always
Pyro's flamethrower, if you right click with it, will use a bunch of ammo and perform an "airblast", which reflects most projectiles in the game and switches their team to the pyro's own, but you have to have excellent timing to pull it off, because it only reflects the projectiles immediately in front of the pyro at the time the button is pressed - it isn't a case of "I pressed this button so I'm immune to all projectiles", it's more "there's a projectile about to hit me, but if I press this button while it's close enough to be reflected but not close enough to hit me, I can aim it wherever I'm looking, where it will deal extra damage". Very hard to learn reliably, because there's a lot of downtime between uses and it doesn't have a lingering hitbox, it is only active for a few frames, so you can't just spam it if you're facing a projectile class, you have to predict when they're going to fire and have the reaction times to actually pull it off.
And no, it doesn't work on bullets, only on projectiles like arrows, rockets, and demoman grenades, and even then, there are a couple it doesn't work on anyway. It also pushes enemy players back and extinguishes burning teammates.
in tf2 weapons are either hit scan or projectile, Hitscan is your bullets where nothing come out of the gun but it just scans to see if you hit but projectiles are your stickys, rockets and pills. Pyro can reflect projectiles
Pyro can only reflect projectiles like rockets, bombs, and some other things. Bullets in TF2 are hit-scan.
7:23 its the play style called the troldier by equipping the
*Primary* : The rocket jumper
Stats: (+extra reserve ammo)(-rockets deal no dammage and knock back only apply on the shooter)
*Secondary* : The mann threads (boots)
Stats: (+ give you full control while airborne, deal dammage when fall in to enemy, 15% blast resistance and more that i forgor 💀)
(-is not a gun)
*Melee* : The market gardener (shovel)
Stats :(+always deal critical hit while airborne) (-20% swing speed while airborne, can not deal random critical hit )
You become the eagle that hunt down Their pray one by one but you need alot(and i mean it) of skills through out the training
6:40 its called intuition because by sending medic flying a little you can make him move a little slower there for easier to hit direct rockets
In the beginning when scout and soldier are glowing blue its called uber which is putting it in overwatch terms: “their super” (barfs) anyways basically when medic heals enough he can make him and whoever he heals invincible to all damage for 10 seconds and they glow blue when he does it
nothing like countering rocket-jumping soldiers with a sentry and the short circuit.
ONE well-placed sentry.... and the eagle WILL scream.
You should do a video reacting and learning how to rocket jump! Nate fox has a video on how to do “the upward jump” that shows some of the upper levels on what soldier can do
Oh yeah, rocket jumping requires TONNES of practice and knowing map layouts to use it at the level Lazy is using. But once you manage it, yeah you can pretty much outpace even Scout (with risking your health as the balance). Also the whip allows whoever the soldier hits (team) to be given a speed boost along with him at the cost of damage (though despite that, the unsaid range the whip has makes it almost broken XD). Also let us not forget the Trolldier (Raining Men Scene) XD Im sure people already screamed at you how to rocket jump, for basics though, just Jump+crouch while shooting at your feet. Of course keep in mind splash damage will force you away from explosion. From there you should be able to do one rocket jump across a decent distance.
In tf2 you can rename your items, such as hats and weapons. I renamed my direct hit “The direct Miss” because I suck at using it
Airstrafing or that Lucio movement you call comes from Counter strike where you can change the direction you go in the air and cs has the same engine as tf2 so you can also do it on tf2
My dude, you need to watch some of my favorite sfm animations when you have the chance, especially fortress films, he done his work so amazingly well
Especially with Emesis blue that feature-length sfw phycological horror thriller is amazing
9:25 OH my gosh all these years and I never noticed that song was propane nightmares XD
And it's even one of my most listened to songs lol
That quote from Kenneth Bainbridge is a real ass quote
(7:03) the Trolldier: uses a weapon that does no damage to you or the enemy, but does increase knock back. Pair with a melee weapon that does less damage, but deal Critical hits if airborne.
1. Rocket jumping is complicated
2. The shovel crits if you are mid air
3. The orange rocket jumper doesn't do damage to anyone
4. You need the gunboats to rocket jump without dying while rocket jumping
5. Direct hit does alot of damage but less radius
- Rocket-jumping is probably one of the biggest risk/reward plays in TF2. You have to risk the small HP loss, but if you use it right, Soldier can fly around more quickly than even Scout can normally. Of course, there's also the Rocket Jumper, a special rocket launcher that doesn't do any damage to anybody - it's essentially laser-focused on the rocket-jumping aspect, making it more of a complement to certain other weapons of his (like the "Trolldier's" Market Gardener shovel, which guarantees crits if he's flying from a rocket jump).
- Yup, the rocket that hit that Soldier also took out the Scout near him via splash damage.
Fun fact the song that is playing after the pyro jumpscare scene is called “Washington Post” and the only reason why I know is because I love it and I play it for my highschool band
In TF2 every class have multiple weapons that have different effects, damage or some nerfs for you. Like they lower your health but give you extra damage or have higher chance to random crit or some equipment can reduce fall damage
Weapons/ items he used in video:
Gunboats: -60% damage from blast jumping with your own rockets
Mantreds: 200% increase in air control, deals to enemy 3X fall damage if you land on enemy players head, and almost complete reduction from knock back and airblast
Direct Hit: increased damage by 25%, 80% faster projectile, does minicrits (base damage X 1,5) to blast jumping enemies (soldiers, demomans and thermalthruster pyros)
Market garden: -25% swing speed (increases the interval between swings), but does critical hits (3X the damage) while you are blast jumping (it means that you can hit 195 damage swing, instakilling 7 out 9 classes, melee deals 65 damage)
the market gardener is an unlockable weapon (that means you cant rocket jump and deal 195 damage with your normal melee)
things to note:
soldier has the second highest overall mobility in the game, losing only to the demoman. scout has the highest base run speed
2:05 upon losing. the team that lost goes into loser state, where they lose all weapons and suffer a small movement debuff until the start of the next round. basically the winning team gets a few seconds where they get to hunt down the survivors of the losing team with absolute impunity before the start of the next round. it's pretty funny
2:28 you can totally go that far in the game, however there are certain criteria that need to be met in order to do so
5:20 that is an actual quote he said, yes
6:07 this is an alternate melee weapon for the soldier, it's called the Disciplinary Action and it grants the soldier and teammates a movement buff when he strikes them at the cost of it dealing less damage to enemies
6:45 every class in the game can blast jump. using enemy damage to push you away from danger is called "damage surfing" and is a very important survival technique in the game as damage from nearly anything also applies some amount of knockback
6:55 medics are the highest priority kill target in any round of tf2
7:10 this is what's known as a "loadout subclass" or "subclass" for short. this one specifically is known as the "Trolldier" the weapons of this subclass are as follows in ascending order; the Rocket Jumper is a rocket launcher that deals 0 damage and enables the soldier to rocket jump without dealing damage to himself. the Market Gardener is a melee weapon that deals critical hits to all enemies while the user is rocket jumping and the Manntreads are boots that improve the soldier's ability to move in the air while also reducing the amount of knockback he takes from enemy sources.
a critical hit from a Market Gardener deals 195 damage and is thus able to instantly kill 7 of the 9 classes assuming they are at full health
10:02 the entire measurement system of the US is imperial which is all in 12ths (which was invented by the british and the primary reason why the US didn't convert to metric is because largely of 18th century piracy)
12 inches in a foot (an inch being about 2.5 cm)
3 feet in a yard (a yard being ~ 4 cm shy of a meter)
5280 feet or 1760 yards in a mile (a mile being ~ 1.6 km)
and yes 5280 divides by 12 perfectly. 1760 doesn't because it's already divided into thirds
there are other measurement denotions in distance like furlongs and chains but those aren't used commonly anymore
11:26 pyro has a mechanic called airblast where he can reflect projectiles away from himself. all projectiles reflected by the pyro have their movement accelerated and also deal mini crit damage which increases the base damage of the projectile by 35%
12:01 most sources of "bullet damage" in tf2 are hitscan and not classified as projectiles in tf2 and therefore are completely unaffected by pyro airblast.
12:49 the direct hit is a weapon designed to combat the engineer's sentry gun first and foremost, it deals 112 base damage as opposed to the stock rocket launcher's 90 so it can't actually one shot scouts all the time
13:05 the stock rocket launcher has a large splash damage radius upon detonation. the splash damage is affected by a variety of conditions but the explosion radius is consistent and is roughly a little bit smaller than the blast radius of pharah's wrist rocket ability in overwatch
It's always nice to see new player reacts to lazypurple's video. He just does such a good job representing the game.
All bullet weapons are hitscan so pyros can't reflect them,but projectiles like rockets,grenades,and throwables can be.
Pyro can only reflect projectiles such as rockets, pipes, stickies,other throwable, and other players
Pyro can also use airblast to extinguish teammates
Pyro can, in fact, reflect a ton of things, as long as it's not bullets (and probably some things i forgot about)
If you are wanting to explore rocket jumping and or trolldier
Soundsmith has made a video about it called How to Trolldier: The market Gardener Basics
for the pyro: he can reflect all projectiles with an airblast as well as push away enemy players; however he cant do anything against bullets (since these are hitscan weapons). limits of the airblast are that it cant be blindly spammed due to a small cooldown (fast enough to catch successive rockets from a single player, but not enough that you can just spam and reflect everything), and the fact that it consumes 20 ammo every time out of 200.
Also the airblast requires good timing to perform hence why only more skilled pyros can pull it off consistantly. But pyros that can do that are complete terrors, especially as the most used offensive classes (demoman and soldier, heavy is too slow and too easy to work around in competitive play sicne he needs to maintain a constant like of sight to deal damage while barely being able to move himself while shooting) are BOTH projectile users, with the demoman not even having any ranged weapon that can ignore the airblast (soldier has a shotgun he can use as a backup when facing a pyro)
To rocket jump, you need to turn around, launch a rocket, crouch and controll your movements.
As long as an engineer don’t put a sentry in where you’re landing, you’re fine.
the jump academy maps really help to learn rocket jumping
Pyro can reflect all Projectile ,So Rocket ,Grenade ,Sticky ,Arrow ,Jarate ,Mad Milk etc...
Bullet are the only thing he can't reflect ,also Rocket are the easiest projectile to Reflect .
I’m a long time TF2 fan and overwatch was foreign to me. It’s absolutely amazing to see an overwatch fan new to TF2 and react. Quality content
Pyro can also reflect arrows and baseballs too
To learn rocket jumping there are specific maps on community servers called jumpacademy. You could try to learn there.
watching this absolute legend slowly find out about and get dragged into the absolute chaos of tf2 is a beautiful experience lol
Best video to learn rocket jumping imo is Soundsmith’s How to trolldier. It explains it well in detail and is easy to understand
After the how it feels series you should watch Dr Lalve’s guide series
If you wanna practice rocket jumping there's a really good custom map called Jump Academy in the community servers tab
5:16
Yes.
It is a real quote
i would recommend Nate Fox videos on how to rocket jump, they give you a nice understanding of how it works, also there are some maps that tf2 community creates to help learn it's uses and what not
Hell he even did a bit on Beggar's Bazooka jumping which was my favorite thing to do
To answer two questions:
1) if you are really good at rocket jumping then YES you ARE faster than scout... but you're doing so at the cost of health and ammo.
2) That quote at 5:12 is ACTUALLY CORRECT AND CORRECTLY ATTRIBUTED. Kenneth Bainbridge was the one who said the quote shortly after the first successful nuclear bomb test at Los Alamos after the Trinity Atomic Bomb test.
Pyro reflects all projectiles, but does not reflect hitscan like bullets. Meaning Pyro can reflect rockets from soldier and pipe bombs from demoman. If sniper is using the bow and arrow weapon, Pyro can reflect arrows.
Lucios movement is closer to titanfall wall running.
America still uses imperial.
Rocket jumping makes you much faster than scout. But landing takes a bit of time.
The Valve engine has A LOT of funky things working within its physics that allows for some crazy movement within games.No Lucio's wall riding does not really correlate to rocket jumping and its movement. Along ramps and certain sloped surfaces the physics in the Source engine does some crazy stuff that allows for the conservation of momentum if utilized properly allowing you to use them as somewhat of a launchpad. Truthfully any class in the game can use them in such ways but Soldier and Demo are the most prevelant due to having an on-demand source of momentum with their explosives and Demo's charging shields to gain a boost from.
The nuances of "Trolldier": TF2 used to release steady streams of new weapons into the game that gave some slight variance to the class function. A scatter gun with more pellets per shot and a knockback function, but only two shots before needing to reload turning Scout into an ambush predator sort of play where he could more effectively 2 tap enemies and even knock them wildly out of position. The Direct Hit as another example, trading the blast radius of the stock rocket launcher and rewarding better aim while also doing more damage to Engineer buildings. In one of the major updates wherein many classes got a slew of new items, Soldier got a set for all his weapon slots paying homage to the 101st Airborn Division of the U.S. Army that fought in WWII. He received a rocket launcher called "The Airstrike" A launcher which had 1 less rocket in the chamber from the stock launcher, and had rockets that did reduced splash damage, but, as a perk, every time you got a kill with it, you'd be able to chamber another rocket, climbing up higher and higher until you could release a devastating barrage of non-stop fire on your opponents with a neigh unlimited clip. This paired well with the launcher's other perk wherein if you were airborne from a rocket jump, it fired at a highly increased rate basically allowing you to reign death from above for absurd damage against the enemy team. To help facilitate the airtime one would like when using such a weapon to get the most out of its increased fire rate Valve gave Soldier the second complimentary item; The "B.A.S.E. Jumper."
The B.A.S.E. Jumper is an item usable by both Soldier and Demoman and was highly prioritized to accommodate an explosive jumping playstyle. Demoman loses his primary weapon for it, and Soldier utilizes it as his secondary. It is an indefinitely deployable parachute that slows the user's fall speed in the air. This can allow for tighter turning while in freefall, and in the case of Soldier, increase the uptime of the Airstrike's improved fire rate. It can be deployed and then deactivated multiple times during a single jump, making movement while using it erratic and unpredictable for the enemy. Even so it largely proves to make the user a very easy target for most classes which means it does not see widespread use outside of people with a very specific playstyle, or just going for a laugh. It was meant to compliment the last part of the kit however...
"The Market Gardener" Named for the disastrous operation in Holland during WWII, the Market Gardener is a shovel melee weapon specifically for Soldier. Soldier's stock primary is an entrenching tool as it is, and he already had some amazing alternatives to speak of such as "The Escape Plan" and "Riding Crop" Initially the Gardener would not catch on due to these better options given its apparent drawbacks. The Escape Plan and Riding Crop both were great tools for getting Soldier out of trouble as they offered move speed based on certain situations. When low on health and unable to rocket jump safely, having such tools were invaluable, and all the Market Gardener provided was a guaranteed critical hit if swung at an enemy while rocket jumping. It had no other improved stats, and in fact, was seen as a downgrade due to not being able to randomly crit at all. It made sense to include it with a kit that focused on rocket jumping and airtime as a contingency to finish off a target as you neared the ground, and fit the theme very well, but was glossed over as rather sub-par on its own. However...
TF2 players are a tenacious breed. When it comes to weapon options, there is always someone who is willing to push the limits of an item's usability, trying different kits and combinations to make something viable, and in the case of the Market Gardener, it held the allure of those who wanted to test the limits of their skills abusing the momentum-based physics of the game, as well as flexing on other players with their game sense and experience. Thus, the Trolldier was born. There have been many incarnations, and even it has its own variants of sub-class now for those who play it but the basic premise for the loadout was thus: Stock Rocket Launcher while learning, but inevitably moving fully over to the Rocket Jumper to fully commit to the play style. The Rocket Jumper has the same amount of chamber rounds as the stock launcher, and will still launch Soldier when rocket jumping, but does no damage from rocket impacts to the user nor the enemy. It is only meant to be a training tool to help people learn to rocket jump.
The B.A.S.E. Jumper- Again, only while learning. Once the understanding of how to air surf in the game is well in hand it is customary to switch to the Mann Treads. These boots offer tighter strafing while airborne, and come with a bonus of dealing stomp damage when landing on enemies, allowing you to double up on damage against something like a Heavy to help finish a frag.
And the key piece, The Market Gardener. Random crits are a fiercely debated topic in the game in terms of fairness and balance. You will find people on both sides with arguments on them. However, earned crits are a different story. For the most part they are accepted and encouraged as when it is the gimmick of the weapon or class at hand based on the skill or effort, it's deemed more acceptable. Perhaps frustrating, but, acceptable. In the case of the Gardener that earned crit is coming with a lot of effort and skill. You are fully committing to jumping into the enemy, and landing your shot for a one-hit kill before trying to jump out again and not die. It is especially perilous after you've gotten a few kills and people now know to be on the watch for you.
Soldier's utility in the game is to frag. He's an excellent duelist and can take on groups of enemies with a medic at his side, or dislodge Sentry guns that are in the open from a safe distance. He's got a lot of use on the front line of the fight, and is excellent at taking space, so, to remove all of those attributes and move to a playstyle of only rocket jumping, and trying to get a single kill earns the monicker of Trolldier. You will be playing Soldier, but will not be able to do the things the team needs Soldier to do, and all for the sake of rage baiting people on the other team. You will die to heavies, you will die to Sentries, you will die to anyone who knows how to outplay Trolldier, you will die. But every now and then, you will get a laugh, and, maybe even find a Trolldier on the enemy team to duel and have a laugh with. Every now and then you will get the unaware pub you can wreak havoc in, but the playstyle is just that, a troll, and we love it.
the rocket jumping and strafing comes from *Quake* games and not just the physics, the first beta game trailer has Soldier(s) do this at end of the trailer. Overwatch on launch had Phara with with "Rocket jump? That spunds dangerous" voice line that you can still check out today, if we are to compare something remotely close to "Lucio" on wall sliding, you must check "How it feels to play Demoman Part 2" its all about the surface sliding and its much *MUCH* more aggressively faster on 1 charge.
Trust me on this one
There's actully a dedicated Rocket Jump Academy server in TF2!
It makes me so sad I can't join in on these streams but I hope you are doing well Kie
It’s all good homie! Great to see your name in the comments, hope you’re doing well buddy!
@@ChocolateKieran Aww such a wholesome interaction
The quote is real.
one video that gives pretty good tutorial for not only rocket jumping and trolldier subclass but advance movement tech in TF2 in general would be How to trolldier: market gardener basics by SoundSmith. It gives the whole prosess in three easy parts as well as options for good ways to practise
I've been enjoying watching you react to these TF2 works, because it reminds me of when I first came upon them. Enjoy, and I hope you have better luck learning rocket jumping than me! (though I think a lot of that is just down to me not being terribly good at "real time" games that require good reflexes and reaction times)
i forgot to come back here when this video was going live, sorry
there is training in tf2
its in the training menu at the start game thing
So, the "Trolldier" is a subclass of the Soldier.
The Trolldier gets rid of all their ranged damage options and instead goes all-in on melee damage.
This means that a Trolldier will rocket jump around the map in order to get melee hits on enemies and insta-kill most classes.
Firstly, instead of the "Rocket Launcher", you equip the "Rocket Jumper", which is a special rocket launcher that reduces the weapon's damage to 0. This means that you can't kill enemies with rockets anymore, but the upside is that you can rocket jump without hurting yourself.
Secondly, you trade in your Shotgun for a pair of shoes called the "Mantreads". These shoes give you more control over your movement while in mid-air, enemies do way less knockback to you, meaning that they can't disrupt your movement while rocket jumping as easily, and lastly, if you land on top of an enemy's head, you no longer take fall damage, and instead they take 3x that fall damage (+ an extra 10 on top).
Lastly, instead of the default Shovel as your melee weapon, you equip the "Market Gardener", which is still a shovel, but has 3 changes compared to the default shovel.
1. It can't do any random critical hits
2. It has a slower swing speed
These 2 stats significantly decrease it's DPS, but the last stat more than makes up for it.
3. Hitting someone with the Market Gardener while rocket jumping gives you a guaranteed critical hit.
Having a guaranteed critical hit on a melee weapon is really powerful, because most melee weapons will insta-kill 7/9 classes this way.
Ok, here is what happens in a TF2 game when one team wins. The Team that Wins gains Crits (Critical Hits) on their weapons and can enter the spawn of the Loosing Team, and the Loosing team looses their weapons and become scared while the Wining Team kills all of them. Also, the Quote by Kenith Brainbridge is actually Real.
To do rocket jump you need lose hp shots under legs pressing crl
6:50 Hi comp tf2 player here! (tldr killing the enemy medic is one of the best picks you can get)
The reason they're celebrating is because different classes are higher value targets than others, for example a soldier dying in exchange for a medic drop is because if a medic is alive and healing their team long enough they have the potential to either make a teammate invulnerable to all damage for 10 seconds or multiply their damage by 3 for 10 seconds. Both are strong enough to win an objective or hold against a push alone. This doesn't mean a soldier has less value on the team however, the difference is just that a solder can both move to the frontlines after a respawn faster and unless they have a banner do not get more powerful by living longer.
Rocket jumping is a drug, but the amount of time required to learn how to do it like optimally, is pretty demanding, but I tell you what, worth it.
5:20 this is a real quote. It was spoken by Robert Oppenheimer, upon viewing the first nuclear bomb test done by the United States.
Its rainin' men! Hallelujah!
Even though he’s watched all the meet team videos, expiration date, and literally played the game, he’s still VERY confused
Man it's so weird 🤣 T_T
…god I really need to learn how to rocket jump….ANYWAY!
Blue team glowing is known as Ubercharge, which is basically the Ult of tf2. If you heal enough as a medic, you can make you and a teammate invulnerable for several seconds. Yes, it’s kinda op, no, we don’t really care.
That whip is known as the Disciplinary Action, and it makes you and a teammate who you hit with faster, in return for 75% less damage.
Rocket Jumping deals self damage, so you have to limit how much you do so.
The Market Gardener is a shovel that deals crits as long as you’re in the air. But to rocket jump, you deal self damage. We just bypass that with a little weapon called the Rocket Jumper, whose rockets deal zero damage but have all the knock back. Trolldier is a very difficult play style, and people such as Soundsmith (who you should totally react to, btw) have spent YEARS cultivating that skill.
A yard is three feet.
Will edit as video goes on.
I still ain't figured out rocket jumping fully, but a skilled solider player can be the quickest player on your team.
6:40 - It's because he did. Anyone can rocket jump off soldier's rockets either intentionally or accidentally.
i hope kieran reading all of comments here.
We use the imperial measurement system, so we use Inches, Feet, Yards, and Miles.
Would you like to watch The Emesis Blue movie? (TF2 Universe) It's a really great psychological thriller that was in development for 4 years!
I hope he watches it because so much work went into it and the team behind it did such a good job at building suspense and with screwing with your head as well
I mean gorge Washington was the first soldier in the comics so he basically was a direct decentdent of gorge Washington
6:24 not sure if it aplies to 2d animation or, i guess general 2d photoediting as well, but in 3d animation that would be called a bounding box
he should really watch the Zero to Hero animation before trying to learn rocket jumping
Yo man, tbh I'd say soldier in TF2 is somewhat mix of junkrat, Lucio and pharah all in one if it comes to his gameplay, shoots projectiles like phara, you jump like junkrat, you slide like Lucio on ramps (most stairs in TF2 are ramps with a stair sprite, basically you can slide on them if you have enough speed)
Also for the trolldier, you need specific melee weapon called market gardener which deals critical damage when in air during rocket jumping, the boots are manntreads that gives you more control over strafing which means you can turn better during rocket jumping, and rocket jumper is basically a weapon that deals no damage and you can jump with it