Would You Rather…LIBERAL MEN VS CONSERVATIVE MEN 🙊// DOMINANCE, PROVISION, LEADERSHIP & TOXICITY
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- Which man would you rather have?
Join the conversation today with Godfrey Kuteesa and Andrew Kyamagero as we discuss traditional male roles from the men's point of view.
Thank you gentlemen for gracing our show today!
We'd like to hear your thoughts on how toxic masculinity has affected you in the comments below.
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Which man would you rather have?
Join the conversation today with Godfrey Kuteesa and Andrew Kyamagero as we discuss traditional male roles from the men's point of view.
Thank you gentlemen for gracing our show today!
We'd like to hear your thoughts on how toxic masculinity has affected you in the comments below.
SHOUT OUT TO OUR GLAM SQUADS:
MANUELA'S GLAM;
Wardrobe: Cadia Fashion House
Make up: Tina Brows
Hair: Zuri Uganda
BARBARA'S GLAM;
Wardrobe: David Kabenge
Jewellery: The SN Store
Hair: Zuri Uganda
Make up: The Sununu Effect
BEVERLEY'S GLAM;
Wardrobe Arija Fashions
Videography and Editing: Garage Group
I wish you could bring us Mariam Nagujja to educate us as well about men cause I find her knowledgeable. Thanks for the show
I knew I’d get angry I don’t know why I played 😂. So much half truth from the men. We need Jesus 🙏🏽. He is the true definition of true masculinity!
Men leave for a lack of commitment, self control, and selfishness!!!
Is Godfrey married?
Ate...divorced..the last I heard
Thank you Lisa. These men live in bubbles. I hear “We are African. We are not in Europe.” Anything to justify their behavior.
Andrew, not having a microwave in your home doesn’t make you a strong African man. It makes you a man that loves to see his wife suffer because apparently he went out to look for money. Lol. That’s laughable.
This episode should be deleted from youtube and everywhere. All these men are saying is “I can do whatever I want and a woman should take it. However, I can leave at the slightest inconvenience from the same woman.” Very toxic and selfish if you ask me.
Worst episode so far. Only Bev tried to stand up. Yes we're not equal but we're also human
First pause and we applaud Beverly for standing up for women right 👍👍😊
I just paused to first comment,
You can't talk masculinity in Uganda without Mr. Godfrey Kutesa. Thank you BumpLove for hosting this great man🎉
Clip 30:48- Andrew said “It takes a lot of guts for a man to decide everyday to come back to you” …. This statement is loaded. I can not even imagine why men like Andrew think this kind of perception and mindset is ok. Does this man have a daughter??? SMH.
I have a lot to say but let me restrain myself on this issue.
Andrew stooooooooop stooooooop bashing single moms. I was raised well by a single mom- (orphaned). I am a sole parent raising a daughter (she is an orphan). She is going to be a great human being. Toxic parenting that causes childhood traumas is not synonymous with single parenting.
Emotional and all sorts of Abuse especially those perpetrated by “cultures” continues to have a influence on why the society is raising humans that have little or no emotional intelligence to be able to manage and foster healthy relationships and marriages❗️
I caught that statement too and was disheartened. All they did was give excuses to justify their terrible actions. I miss pumla ❤
You girl me am raging why does that particular tribe continue to disrespect women and there women are so dump they keep settling for trashy men with rubbish mindsets.
@@olivia-kim-abba thank you. People have been raised by single parents and they’ve come out as responsible adults, we’ve seen people who were raised by both parents and giving the Society headache
@@puritykemunto5752 🤝🤝🤝🤝I don’t think I can handle any of those two!! Ehh
On the issue of parenting has no manual I was raised by a single mum but the truth is segayirira musajja I have seen my mum provide and I have a mentality if she I can also do in that I can never settle where I don't feel well just because they can provide
Wives align men and husbands align families. I love that.
Beverley thanks for standing up for women today. I think men are lost today and the hosts were proof of this. Men are not ready to acknowledge that tables have turned and they have to adapt to the reality of the day. Women have adapted, they are providing in homes while still doing wifely duties while men are also providing but not realising they have to meet the women halfway. I say men are going to continue being disillusioned until they wake up to the facts of the day. I also agree with Mr. Kuteesa that we need to stop coddling men...it's why we have so many losers and drunks in our society.
thanks for watching. so much to learn
This talk is both enlightening and disheartening. Bev, thanks for holding the 'no disrespect/abuse' forte for women. Kuteesa, makes sense. Men should listen to him more. I worry that for as long as men do not own up to their contribution to broken homes, it will continue. Women CANNOT be better alone.
Also, we need to stay away from examples and miss the principle. Simple minds hold onto examples and miss the principle. Massaging feet is simply an example of care-giving. Women can show care in innumerable ways. Men, provide.
Well stated, Thank you
I want to hug Beverly these guys want to say that its okay for a woman to suffer and she has to endure but for men its supposed to be smooth all through.
Time for us to speak up. Thank you
Nambooze u r something else. U know how to use space ,baby gal!
@@Nambozobev how can one reach you regarding public speaking please? Thank you ❤
Yes Bev has represented us so well
@@thechristianperspective me too, she really outspoke the men and all her reasoning was valid. She respresented us very well🤝🤝 thank you madam Beverly
Because I got used to a bigger group, i feel like this episode is so lively, it brings the previous season's vibes.
Same here
I thought it was only mi
Mwana
@@jamiekhlo1302 you are not alone 😢
Definitely
I cant thank you enough for bringing Andrew and Godfrey, this generation is blessed to have you
Totally agree
'could you please rub my feet' is being humane. Being polite to our loved ones has nothing to do with gender equality. Asking Vs Demanding
There is alot to learn from these men. They are speaking the truth, thank you Mr. Kyamagero and Mr. Kutesa
It's not in the act of washing the feet It's in the expectation even when she doesn't want to. Just because your father did it doesn't make it right! ...even fools have children, even grow old.
The truth is women should let men be men and accept leadership...whereas men should be respectful, responsible and accountable
True
Exactly! Just accept leadership, for Christ's sake. The man needs his feet rubbed, RUUUUUUUUUUUB! Stop listening to the Kardashians and the devil. When you do, and divorced, shut your big empowered mouth.
Surely
A u married yet , you sound from my testament
In conversation like this, I miss my PUMLA, she would have done justice to this topic.
It's quite unfortunate to blame a woman for your upbringing and the type of home you grew in. when you become an adult , be intentional about learning and unlearning a lot of thing's, get total healing before you get into any Patnership.
Obviously
Aaaaaaaa my dear if Pumla was here...she would have silenced all of them combined with truth and proved research ❤❤I miss them all
Literally my thoughts. I miss her
But we have Bev...i feel like she is our new pumla....smh
@@thechristianperspective Agree👍
The topic of toxic masculinity is happening in Asia too. I’m in China and it’s all over Chinese media and the women are speaking out on their experiences. Just because you haven’t heard something, doesn’t mean it’s not happening.
Toxic masculinity is the topic but the men whose masculinity is the most toxic were chosen
Watch your tongue, you risk sounding obscene.
Interesting point of view. Just started watching. Will let you know my opinion on this.
I'm also watching now let's meet just now
Your view is just narrow, stop being a people pleaser and do the right thing
Nkugambye... both singing the same old song and Kyamagero with his misplaced english words ... I can't 😞
Bev tried though.
This is my first time watching this edition of Bump Love with my sisters Barbara and Bev from school. It’s great to see Manuela again.
The show is, to say the least, triggering. The guests struggled to present their arguments in a way that provided clear, grounded context. There were too many unfortunate generalizations. I implore our guests to conduct thorough research because these overused platitudes are often mistaken for truth.
We face a sad situation: our families are breaking apart, affecting both men and women. Women cannot be solely blamed for these issues, as relationships involve both parties.
We all understand what respect entails and what it does not. I believe we can learn to treat each other better. If both parties in a relationship fully commit and submit to their union, taking responsibility together, we can be more accountable and work towards making our relationships successful.
It's episodes like these that make me miss Pumla. She would have brought the feminist perspective wellll. Well done Bev 🎉🎉
Beverly, I’m in love with your outfit. It brings out the African beauty. Thanks for hosting these conventional men
I live in the comment section. Mwami Kuteesa asimbudde. I really love these guys they always have a lot to share. Mwami Kyamagero will represent us who love soft love 😅.
The Combination is Mwaaaaaaa👌👌👌👌 son of Namukasa yabuzeewo Kasuku
I have enjoyed this episode. It has given me all the fills from eagerness, ecstasy, anxiety to mention but a few. Also evocative of self reflection. I have also confirm that men would rather climb a mountain than accept to take accountability for their part in failing a home. But ladies thank you for the show.
The combination of the set today!!!! I see fire. Mr. Kuteesa, Beve, Uncle Kyams, banange.
Now let me watch.
Personally I feel that for the bigger part of this conversation the men were making excuses and giving justifications for their behavior blaming everything on the women..
They blamed women for being the cause of men leaving their homes.. which is not entirely true, because some women do all that is required and the men still leave
Then they spoke about the women not bringing father figures after the men have left the marriages.. and there I still see an element of lack of responsibility.. because yes the marriage has ended, but what happened to co- parenting.. the father can still be present in the children's lives and the woman doesn't have to get blamed for not bringing a father figure.
Of all men, they had to pick those two,like WTF
Which 1 of them is supposed to represent the modern man,they both sound toxic 😅
@@Zladok not even morden men, real men
@@lyshamay5951how are they fake?
@@Nene..93 dint say they are fake,i said it would have been great seeing some real men on the show , my real came out in a context of sage and gentlemen,
Very insightful and educative, this is one of the best shows Bump Love has done to me, bring Mr.Kuteesa and Mr.Kyamagero again, this generation needs more men like you. Thank you Bump love team.
Politeness has nothing to do with equality! It’s just good manners, speaks respect and love plus intimacy👌🏽.
Thank you Manuela
I find this conversation disrespectful, also how Kyamagero refers to Beverly as “the one that speaks English” that’s one way of trying to put her down.. these were not the best people to invite, they speak from only one perspective🚮
I struggled watching this episode because the men who were chosen are as toxic as a topic. Lets accept that there are men who are bad regardless of the environment at home. Not all men are responsible and its dangerous that men like these are given airtime to talk to communities. This is only going to perpecuate the situations that are already happening in the communities.
We all go through alot but being emotionally, financially and physically present is also a choice that men have to take on.
Thanks Ladies for this table shaking Conversation, its been bitter-sweet listening to the submissions of y'all!
Thanks for bringing Andrew kyamagero and Godfrey kuteesa. These men speak sense to me.
Manuela is right too about generalizing things. Very many people have grown up in single parenthood homes, where fathers and mothers are abusive but after seeing all those things they make a decision to change the dynamic they grew up seeing
See, i got my favorite is Bev. Flowers for you Lady.
Thanks. I receive the flowers.🤩
Bev was the only one who held these two men accountable & tried to call them out when they used excuses to blame women for poor behaviors displayed by certain men. Their way of thinking was super archaic & they still believe that the woman place is still in the kitchen in 21st century. Bev held fire under their feet sometimes. Barbara pretty much checked out & didn't challenge them. Manuella didn't show up today & played a passive role. I understand that they're guests on the show but the 3 hostesses should always try to have control of the discussion. Bev definitely did her part & tried more than enough to be respectful while defending her viewpoints.
Thanks for your comment. We certainly need follow up discussions in other spaces as well, so that there is time for more views to be aired articulately.
Surely these men are very chauvinistic 😢😢
Thanks for the show. The discussion was somewhat one-sided and egoistic whenever the men spoke. I'm shocked at some of "Mr. Kyamagero's" utterances. He comes off as a bully rather than the alpha male he's trying to portray
Am shocked aswell
Yeah i was thinking that too its not really giving Alpha male its like he is trying to convince himself that he deserves that rather than be that.
No alpha males here. They're are chauvinistic pigs. Pardon my language 😅
Today's discussion 🙌
I believe we should reconsider the balance between traditional roles and modern expectations. It's challenging to achieve everything simultaneously and finding a sustainable balance is essential.
Manuela you have said it right ,some of us we grew up in broken families but we don't want it to happen to our children that's y we are trying 😊
True,women admire a man who can make decisions and lead
Women we should know that taking up our responsibilities and taking our space in home is not torment...
Exactly!
The way i enjoy being submissive to my husband truly shows me that we as women thats were we are meant to be. Two real strong men on the panel.
Its easy to submit to a good man.
Very true! It’s so easy to submit to a good man infact the guilt is real when I don’t!!!
Manuela, I like your submission on each gender being mindful and conscious of the extremes. Naye Banange men don't want to listen when we air out what we feel as women, Kaweddemu.
Yes we do need to be mindful for sure.
This episode has me triggered on all levels!!!!! Ahhhh🤨🤨🤨🤨 these men refuse to take responsibility of the their roles in how men and women turn out in adulthood.
They are busy stereotyping women that were raised by single moms. What about men that were raised by single moms.
Both of them are saying they didn’t get attention and affection from their fathers. That is not okay. They need therapy. There’s a lot from their childhood that needs to be addressed.
“A man love towards his son is actually to detach.” Now that’s toxic.
Boys growing up without love from their fathers has created men like these. No no. Unacceptable.
Women were not created to follow. Society has made it that way. That doesn’t make it okay.
You men need to know better and do better.
And why is the lady is yellow quiet? Honestly it’s giving “Pick me. I am not like other girls.” 🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Well said!!!! These men have grown up with harmful beliefs that they have perpetuated into adulthoood with so sign of progression. They need therapy!!!
41:55 It seems to me that these two men believe in tough love as the only way to bring up a male child. Which got me thinking, this tough love leads to a traumatized grown up man, who is not in touch with his emotions, doesn’t know how to treat others any better and even worse ends up being abusive to women. I see how this belief in a male child upbringing could be the lead cause of toxic masculinity.
ho!!!!!! these two definitely subscribe to the same world. Very conservative men!
This background is so nostalgic
I felt Pumla and colleagues in the room. Now this is bump love.
I know of a very grate man who stayed even when the wife didn't submit coz yah she grew up with a tough childhood and once God redeemed her she learned submission which she still struggles with ,but this man couldn't leave coz he had promised God before his marriage that he was in to stay.
There are women who are better leaders than men
Amen to that!
Bev blows my mind every time she speaks. You give me energy energy lady!
Today's show is fab! Educational and Awareness. Let's go BL2 🎉
This is hot. Men that actually don't fear to say it and can actually hold a conversation yet stay polite, confident and sure of themselves. Respect gentlemen. Ladies thank you this is very educative and informative
Flowers for Beverly for insisting on defending the woman. Mubutufu why wouldn't the man kuguma yet women are expected to do the same. These egoist conservative men brought up during war also!
I receive the flowers. 🎉
I hate such opinions, keep it for you,
@aidah hate it if you like, everyones opinions matters¡ besides am just echoing and questioning what the gentlemen admit to; if you are keen enough to listen before you throw your toxicity here!
😂😂😂
Beverly looking royal in purple❤❤❤
Thank you. Purple has become a new favourite
@@Nambozobev Same here, That's why only lavender air freshner catches my eye at supermarkets🤣🤣
Oh oh Mw Kuteesa webale nnyo. You have so many valid points. Well said 🎉
INSIGHTFUL. Respect to the men today and the ladies.❤
For me I have vowed to give my husband peace as much as I humanly can. I know that the world out there is tough on men, and unfortunately, men don't have avenues like women do to share emotions. I want to be the avenue for my man to share and face the World boldly knowing the one woman in his life respects, hears, and hopes in him.
Thanks for standing ur ground
This is sweet ☺️
That’s all nice and well but truthfully the world is hard on women ie; professions, religions, society, family and this is exactly the topic of discussion bse men are not held accountable for the things they do while women are held on high standards even lack of children now if my husband is this shallow not to understand that it’s hard for women than men, then I don’t want him. Have you heard of a saying that men love bitches? Men actually love women who love themselves more bse they challenge them to a higher standard same as gold diggers. Men are just trained not to talk abt their emotions bse they don’t want to show weakness but there are so many avenues for them to address their issues/emotions just like it was years ago. Some men today as you claim have no venues to address their emotions is bse they were abandoned from childhood they broken homes and the genesis of the probably started way back from his great grand father and no matter what you the wife today can do 4 this man, it will never be enough until his address the original sin.
while i appreciate the submission by Mr. Kuteesa on men stepping up, am not pro negating the soft skills required by the man and he seems to recommend that that part is killed. This in itself is what breeds masculine toxicity.
Wow Mr Kuteesa is a Gem. Thank you ladies for connecting us to this!
Love how much these men share❤ we are glad they are here🔥
But Manuela, you said you and Mr. Mulondo are very intentional about changing your past and that's your super power. that's why its working. Where there's a will, there's always a way. You guys are very intentional and I remember you said you always pray about it.
Yes we do
@@manuelap.mulondoAlso, your Christian values play a big part and a no nonsense Mr Mulondo. 😂😂😂
Bev is the real deal 🤝😊😊😊❤❤❤💃💃💃
Proud of you girl
This episode is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Well done ladies ❤
Appreciation.
I love the confidence from each member here!am enjoying the show.
Mr Kyamagero, I think even when damaged, women are doing something to be better than damaged men are doing.
This was the best. I totally totally enjoyed it. Thank you everyone for sharing. Lots of insight andd learnings there. Thank you all.
We need men to be men again. There's nothing as frustrating for me as a woman like having a partner that can not lead. Men who you even give an opportunity to make decisions and they fail but when you decide to step up and start making the decisions you become disrespectful 😮😮. I don't know how wemen in these situations enjoy it but Lord knows we need to be better parents to our children in this generation coz the next is going to be a horror movie.
Hello bump love. I've been here for 3years now and I'm a Kenyan so i don't understand your language kindly speak in English or put for us subtitles. You began well but stopped at some point. Thank you for the good job you're doing, we are always inspired. Love from Kenya
They put subtitles please rewatch
Wowww what a beautiful show! It’s been nice hosting the men
Only 7 minutes into the show and iam just like wow 😊.....
Mr.Kutesa Ahaaa!!!! Already learning
You guys I'm excited for today's show, I know know for sure it's going to be lit ❤❤❤.
Watching from Kenya...
I built up some anger while listening to this conversation. Especially on the matter of massaging the feet. Thankyou Beverly for standing up for the women.
We should realize that the generations are changing and the manner of handling things is different.
The manual for marriage is the Bible, Act like Christ does to the church.
I 99%DISAGREE with everything said by these men.
Seeing the men on set I just prepared myself to get annoyed😂😂 I love Bev and her submissions always🥰
😂😂
The parting shorts for Mr kutesa are legit. Its very good to address our Men as Mr or My husband
Thank you for the subtitles because the gentleman in green chose to speak in a language that comes easy for him.
Mr. Kyam and Mr Godfrey, you represented us so well. You guys are smart. You led this discussion well.
This is niiiiiiiice. Has me at the edge of my seat. kudos to you ladies and gents
Wooooowww!!!! Ohhh myyy!!! Words have failed me, after watching this episode!!!! Sometimes i ask myself why it has taken me this long to get married, and yet ive always longed to be blessed with a beautiful, God centered marriage at the right time of course!!!! I now get it because i totally, just can't deal with some of these toxic traits that should be long gone!! Perhaps i live in a different world. altogether.
But again, we learn and move!!
And having learnt from Pumla, we can all do better!!!
Thank you guys for the effort, we love you
Absolutely amazing❤. Such a great episode. Great insights. Real mature talk ❤
I know there are toxic behaviours but not toxic men oxymoron so they can have the traits but it doesn't make them toxic.
I will come back to watch.❤❤❤ finish with the work then 🤓🤓
Our society gives men toooooo many excuses…. Andrew and Godfrey have just confirmed
May be it's not society but it's innate 😂😂😂🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️.
The bar is so low … it’s in the basement 😂
@@Twine256-nx1plhell if you ask me 😂😂
Thank u for making our Fridays...we love you
I never leave a video halfway through, but I am so frustrated by the refusal of these men to accept that men need to take accountability. So will wait for next weeks episode
Great programme, Please keep doing Men with Women topics...marriage,dating etc...Programme is so needed it will sky rocket. Since NTV took away the MEN programme there has been a gap. It helps women understand men and men to understand their roles..bring in also respectable Elders men and women eg; like Ps Sempa and others who understand marriage ,finances etc...Excited about what is coming for this programme ,keep it up
I was really missing these two gentlemen thanks for bringing them. I belong to the Tribe of strong men
This was so eloquent ,I love this episode so far keep bringing guests .
I didn't know Andrew is a bully 😮😮😮. Weather the wife is good or bad you must take yo responsibility period.though men were just avoiding the real thing 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂# Manuella i love hw u bring back the panel to the topic.kindly do this topic again with Pumla as a guest 😂😂😂she will teach them to do better
Wow fire on fire..this so exciting..Mr kuteesa😂😂
Thank you very much.... I like this conversation very much
I personally feel that there is nothing wrong with a wife washing the husband's feet if there is mutual agreement it is something the wife enjoys to do. It becomes toxic if the wife is taken for granted and the man feels entitled regardless of the wife's feelings and imposes that on her. That is toxic masculinity. Everything done to satisfy one's ego and yet without mutual understanding and agreement is not done in love and it leaves the other person un happy and overtime it kills something in that person. Love is not selfish and not proud
Very educative ladies and gentlemen
Its always a joy❤watching
The cast just made me go all smiles😊
Another spiced up Friday 🎉🎉🎉Mob love ladies
Kudos to Beverly for holding her fort in this conversation👏🏾 The other cast member in yellow was really quite (would have loved to hear her views as well)
Why would you bring some of the most toxic and misogynistic men online and think you will have a nuanced and balanced conversation🙄
I actually miss Pumla she wouldn’t have let these men spew all this garbage
😂😂😂 This is a fantastic show. Thank you gentlemen
from kenya ,saying todays show is real organic bump love...bev said be a man we fell in love with her instantly
No lies Godfrey is doing a good job....But he is toxic sometimes.Some who uses the demands the wife for food,demands the wife to Wash his feet....even the tone alone is abusive...If my husband asks for food...its ok..If my husband demands for food this abusive.And if i dont give food to a husband that asks for food...then i am toxic...Naye Kuteesa Olemwa
How are you appreciating your husband
Selfish lady,
@@aidahal1482 he loves tea and juice...and doesnt eat the same meal a day...and he's respectful not narcissistic....How u ask for something matters.... Godfrey demands....that's toxic
@@Avellino256 Babe, you might think so, but that's your responsibility to take care of your people has he provide for you, lady another time, you wait for him to tell you because you got to know what he wants and makes him appreciated.
Don't wait to be reminded your responsibility just has he does his.
I'm here for Uncle Kuteesa.🥳🥳🥳
Wow thanks 🙏🙏🙏 Mr Kuteesa atleast you have told these men their problem 😊
Insightful!...... part 2 of this wouldn't hurt.
Kudos, the episode was worth my time
So far,the best show for me in this season of Bump love...Big ups team.