The Harbor Freight Air Dryer is now $499. I have quite a few old air conditioners and I am going to build my own for our 10' x 5' Vicon machine. Thanks for the video, I had been looking at this one earlier.
Thanks for the video, I just got this myself. However, you did dob yourself in... "My awesome electrician is about to do this for me" 10secs later "Ok, I finished connecting this" haha
Cool man, I’ve been thinking of getting one of these, I have an aftercooler then a desiccant tank but this could make my desiccant last longer between recharges
Good point. I have been thinking about reconnecting the CamAir filter after the dryer. I would think it would work better and last longer. Thanks for watching.
Does this thing make a good amount of noise? It sounds pretty quiet in the video but you don’t really get the same noise on video as you do in real life.
The HF book says 14 NPT and I don't think there is such a thing. 1/2 in NPT pipe thread does not want to screw to HF thread? You screw yours on with no effort? I don't get it? Cheers Randy
@ntdracing thank you ! I've watched your videos on the langmuir tables. And I originally wanted the XR after seeing your video, but I don't have the room. So I am going with the CrossFire pro. Your videos are a wealth of information and knowledge that have helped me make an informed decision. Thank you!
Great video! I just bought an 80 gal. 5hp compressor that I was trying to figure out the best way to provide dry air for sandblasting and powdercoating. your video sealed the deal. How has it been working out for you? Do you still use the CanAM setup?
I would like to know more about the rolling stand you made for your compressor. My compressor wants me to drill into my floor which are epoxy coated and I like to move things and clean behind and under them. Where did you get the stand and wheels for you stand?
I will try to add that into my next video, but it is fairly simple. I had some extra 2 inch square 1/4 and 2x3 1/4 to make the base. It is hefty. I used the same wheels that I used for my plasma table. Link is at our store at www.NTDRacing.com. The Dewalt recommended to bolt it to the floor also, so I would say that is the best advice. I decided to make it mobile. It works fine, but there you will have to decide the risk you can accept with it toppling over...my disclaimer👍
@@ntdracing Thank you and I like your idea better than the Compressor Manufacture. The manufacture will always take the worst case scenario which I understand. I don't have any kids playing around and the compressor was stable while I wired it and tested it for leaks while sitting on the shipping pallet with the bolts removed. I have new metallic epoxy coated floors and I just can't bare the thought of drilling holes into it.
May not be the best way, but I just leave it at the max setting 45amps and do not regulate the air pressure going in. I let the RW preset air adjustment do it’s thing and it has been working great. 1/8 at 65ipm. 3/16 at 50ipm and 1/4 at 25ipm. Hope this helps.
The smoke on steel is not too bad. If I am making a long cut, I will turn a fan on to evacuate smoke from my shop. With aluminum, I always run a fan. The water is not that bad either. The worst would be when the cut is done, and the plasma torch goes through its “cool down” blowing air directly into the water. In that case, I will try to quickly jog the torch over a place where there is still sheet.
@@ntdracingjust wondering if everything is still working good even without regulating the air before the air dryer I have the same setup and realized I didn’t put a regulator before.
Is it a noticeable difference having the air dryer over the desiccant? Big diff in price, I’m awaiting my pro and picking up a freaky 60 gallon 11 cfm compressor tomorrow, trying to decide if it is worth spending the extra 300$ to get the dryer.
Basically monitors plasma arc voltage and automatically adjusts torch height. better cut quality, works well when your material warps while cutting. Saw a UA-cam video somewhere a dude was cutting corrugated metal roofing into metal art torch raised and lowered over the corrugations. I have it on my Crossfire pro and am glad i bought it.
The Torch Height Control is a must if you have long continuous cuts. If you are only making small cuts where the torch will remain within a small cutting area, then the Initial Height Sensing IHS will work ok. Basically, the torch will start by dropping down to the metal to be cut, zero itself then raise back up a height that you tell it to cut in your CAD/CAM program (I use Fusion 360). From there, it will not move again until it is done with that continuous cut and, stops and needs to pierce again somewhere else on your cut program. As long as the bed is true and the metal stays flat...it works fine. The reason that Torch Height Control THC is so cool, is because after the Initial Height Sensing does its thing and the torch fires, it takes a measurement of the voltage. Now THC says X voltage equals X height and will move the torch up and down to maintain that voltage during the cut...even if the table is not true or the metal is warped. Totally worth adding THC.
Awesome content on the all the LS Crossfire Pro you've shared !! I too own the Pro and gathered a lot of other equipment to go along with the new little endeavor... the 3/16 cut quality is great! question: what size consumable you utilizing?
@@ntdracing Do it, will make a huge difference. Also, keep the plumbing @ 1/2" everywhere you can & adapt it down to 1/4" @ the furthest point downstream you can to connect your hoses. You are severely constricting the amount of air moving through it otherwise.
I keep it really simple. I just send 100+ PSI to the RW45. I run the amps wide open at 45 and vary the speed. What has been working for me is 25ipm on 1/4. 50ipm on 3/16 and 65 ipm on 11GA. I have cut very little 16GA and 110ipm works. Could probably cut that faster. Hope this helps.
@@ntdracing Thanks for the quick reply. One last question. Is there much condensate coming out of the drain tube or is most of it evaporated? I don't have a floor drain in our small compressor room.
I just fired up my Pro last weekend, works great. You mentioned LS misfire fix. Have a forum link for that fix? Thanks from Colorado. ps. Those Dewalt gryo screwdrivers after awesome, I buy the more expensive one, DCF680N1, for the rotating handle and the tensioner/clutch. I have at least 4 and love it.
@@tollav I find that hard to believe. First of all: I love Dave and his videos. But this is the context: shop talk, CNC plasma cutter that "offers" pinch points, temperatures in excess of 20000 degrees, compressed gases, and literally how to design and manufacture suspension parts to go 100+MPH offroad in foreign countries. When it comes to connect a 110V outlet however... Come on ☺️
Ohhh now I get it, Cover Your A**, CYA in short 😂 but still, it seems excessive to me. For example watch this vijeo: ua-cam.com/video/ll5rLCP0aig/v-deo.html a female with long nails showing how to wire a set of lights, including a dimmer it's a much more challenging operation than the one discussed here 😂😂
The Harbor Freight Air Dryer is now $499. I have quite a few old air conditioners and I am going to build my own for our 10' x 5' Vicon machine. Thanks for the video, I had been looking at this one earlier.
Sounds cool. I would like to see that build.
one year later and now it's $599! dear me
Thanks for the video, I just got this myself.
However, you did dob yourself in...
"My awesome electrician is about to do this for me"
10secs later
"Ok, I finished connecting this"
haha
Great video! Thanks. Does dry air improve the cut quality or just save consumables? $300 buy an awful lot of consumables, no?
Do you know what model flux capacitor they use in the HF air dryer? Looks like an upgrade.
I think they use this one www.oreillyauto.com/flux-500.html
Cool man, I’ve been thinking of getting one of these, I have an aftercooler then a desiccant tank but this could make my desiccant last longer between recharges
Good point. I have been thinking about reconnecting the CamAir filter after the dryer. I would think it would work better and last longer. Thanks for watching.
Does this thing make a good amount of noise? It sounds pretty quiet in the video but you don’t really get the same noise on video as you do in real life.
Really did get some knowledge on how to set up a air dryer . Thank you.
Can you do a video of the stand for your compressor as well- thanks
Thanks for the video! I really appreciate it!
The HF book says 14 NPT and I don't think there is such a thing. 1/2 in NPT pipe thread does not want to screw to HF thread? You screw yours on with no effort? I don't get it? Cheers Randy
Inside your shop, how loud is the Dewalt compressor ?
I'm looking to get a 60 gallon compressor when I order my cnc plasma table.
@@MidnightCustoms-C20 I have to wear ear plugs when it is running.
@ntdracing thank you ! I've watched your videos on the langmuir tables. And I originally wanted the XR after seeing your video, but I don't have the room. So I am going with the CrossFire pro. Your videos are a wealth of information and knowledge that have helped me make an informed decision. Thank you!
Whats your pierce delay for your 3/16 steel ?
Great video! I just bought an 80 gal. 5hp compressor that I was trying to figure out the best way to provide dry air for sandblasting and powdercoating. your video sealed the deal. How has it been working out for you? Do you still use the CanAM setup?
BTW, the dryer is currently $599. I'm hoping for a coupon here soon.
How many amps is your plasma cutter and how many gallons is your compressor?
What you need to do is build an insulted shed and put the air compresser and dryer in it . Plus it would give you more shop space!!
4:45 Dude, I lost it. Hahaha. Great video.
use the white rector seal, its way better. I was a certified union pipe fitter for years so I know.
Where does your gauge read when warmed up?
What size square tube are you using for your air compressor base.
Just some 2x2x.25 and 2x3/.25 scrap I had left over. It really is not that heavy. A 2x2x.125 would work.
Best thread sealant to use is loctite 545.
I would like to know more about the rolling stand you made for your compressor. My compressor wants me to drill into my floor which are epoxy coated and I like to move things and clean behind and under them. Where did you get the stand and wheels for you stand?
I will try to add that into my next video, but it is fairly simple. I had some extra 2 inch square 1/4 and 2x3 1/4 to make the base. It is hefty. I used the same wheels that I used for my plasma table. Link is at our store at www.NTDRacing.com. The Dewalt recommended to bolt it to the floor also, so I would say that is the best advice. I decided to make it mobile. It works fine, but there you will have to decide the risk you can accept with it toppling over...my disclaimer👍
@@ntdracing Thank you and I like your idea better than the Compressor Manufacture. The manufacture will always take the worst case scenario which I understand. I don't have any kids playing around and the compressor was stable while I wired it and tested it for leaks while sitting on the shipping pallet with the bolts removed. I have new metallic epoxy coated floors and I just can't bare the thought of drilling holes into it.
Cool demo !!!
Thanks...still working and has been a total game changer with consumables.
Do you use Sheetcam for nesting or the new Fusion 360 nesting feature with the LS control software.
I only use Fusion 360 because most of the things I make are 3D flattened to 2D. I will have to check out the nesting feature. Have not tried it yet.
Awesome suts on the 3/16 what amp setting on the razor weld, and air psi?? how about 1/4"
May not be the best way, but I just leave it at the max setting 45amps and do not regulate the air pressure going in. I let the RW preset air adjustment do it’s thing and it has been working great. 1/8 at 65ipm. 3/16 at 50ipm and 1/4 at 25ipm. Hope this helps.
@@ntdracing THANK YOU
What do you do for smoke or water splashing?
The smoke on steel is not too bad. If I am making a long cut, I will turn a fan on to evacuate smoke from my shop. With aluminum, I always run a fan. The water is not that bad either. The worst would be when the cut is done, and the plasma torch goes through its “cool down” blowing air directly into the water. In that case, I will try to quickly jog the torch over a place where there is still sheet.
Smoke...I open a door to the outside and run a fan. Water splash is not too bad. Sometimes I will have to wipe water from the floor.
I was just looking at this set-up. The air dryer says 100 psi working pressure with a max of 140. Did you regulate your air down to 100?
I did not. Close enough?
@@ntdracingjust wondering if everything is still working good even without regulating the air before the air dryer I have the same setup and realized I didn’t put a regulator before.
Used it today. Working perfectly.
Is it a noticeable difference having the air dryer over the desiccant? Big diff in price, I’m awaiting my pro and picking up a freaky 60 gallon 11 cfm compressor tomorrow, trying to decide if it is worth spending the extra 300$ to get the dryer.
Huge difference. Some people say the HF stuff is 50/50 if it will work. I may just be lucky. Best mod I have made to the CrossFire Pro and the RW45.
Tha is for the response!
Explain the height control option on the table please.
Basically monitors plasma arc voltage and automatically adjusts torch height. better cut quality, works well when your material warps while cutting. Saw a UA-cam video somewhere a dude was cutting corrugated metal roofing into metal art torch raised and lowered over the corrugations. I have it on my Crossfire pro and am glad i bought it.
The Torch Height Control is a must if you have long continuous cuts. If you are only making small cuts where the torch will remain within a small cutting area, then the Initial Height Sensing IHS will work ok. Basically, the torch will start by dropping down to the metal to be cut, zero itself then raise back up a height that you tell it to cut in your CAD/CAM program (I use Fusion 360). From there, it will not move again until it is done with that continuous cut and, stops and needs to pierce again somewhere else on your cut program. As long as the bed is true and the metal stays flat...it works fine. The reason that Torch Height Control THC is so cool, is because after the Initial Height Sensing does its thing and the torch fires, it takes a measurement of the voltage. Now THC says X voltage equals X height and will move the torch up and down to maintain that voltage during the cut...even if the table is not true or the metal is warped. Totally worth adding THC.
Awesome content on the all the LS Crossfire Pro you've shared !! I too own the Pro and gathered a lot of other equipment to go along with the new little endeavor... the 3/16 cut quality is great! question: what size consumable you utilizing?
I just use the Hypertherm 220671 45amp nozzle. I may look around for another less expensive off-brand option.
Thanks for watching.
I have a pro also and am using the HF dryer, has it helped your consumable life?
Big time over my last dryer.
After a few months of operating the dryer have you noticed a difference in consumable life?
Total game changer. They last much longer than with the CamAir.
Why not plumb it between the compressor pump and the tank? That what the air in the tank is dry and you wont have to worry about draining the tank.
Sounds like a great idea. Wonder if anyone has tried it. It works right now, so I am not planning any changes. Thanks for watching.
@@ntdracing Do it, will make a huge difference. Also, keep the plumbing @ 1/2" everywhere you can & adapt it down to 1/4" @ the furthest point downstream you can to connect your hoses. You are severely constricting the amount of air moving through it otherwise.
Do you have a chart for cutting amp/speed you can share ?
I keep it really simple. I just send 100+ PSI to the RW45. I run the amps wide open at 45 and vary the speed. What has been working for me is 25ipm on 1/4. 50ipm on 3/16 and 65 ipm on 11GA. I have cut very little 16GA and 110ipm works. Could probably cut that faster. Hope this helps.
What do you coat your floors with?
ua-cam.com/video/hwryW7o44eY/v-deo.html.
Update on the air dryer? Any issues so far? TIA
Used it all weekend. Love it. Consumables lasting much longer.
Is it neccessary to use air dryer for plasma?
Absolutely. If the air is not dry, your consumables will blow out quickly and cost a bunch.
U are Lodi pressure if u use 1/2 from the compressor to d machine u well hve a way better pressure maintained at the machine or 3/8
Can you provide the coupon code you used? I have been looking to upgrade but I can't find a coupon.
I am working on getting a discount code for my channel. Will let you know as soon as I do.
Do you have the discount code for the air dryer?
This was not one of their normal discount campaigns. This was an individual coupon one of our drivers had.
That makes sense then, because I’ve been looking and their standard coupon code Doesn’t work. I think I’ll just pull the trigger anyways.
What laptop are you using with fusion 360 and bendtech
I use a cheep ASUS that I got from the “returned” section from Best Buy. Does the job.
🙋 Have the pro. Love your videos. Thanks lots. 👨🏭
Thanks for watching.
Does the air dyer put off a lot of heat?
No…at least I have not noticed any.
@@ntdracing Thanks for the quick reply. One last question. Is there much condensate coming out of the drain tube or is most of it evaporated? I don't have a floor drain in our small compressor room.
It the air dryer still holding up after 5 months
Yes. Still works great.
Great content.
I just fired up my Pro last weekend, works great. You mentioned LS misfire fix. Have a forum link for that fix? Thanks from Colorado.
ps. Those Dewalt gryo screwdrivers after awesome, I buy the more expensive one, DCF680N1, for the rotating handle and the tensioner/clutch. I have at least 4 and love it.
forum.langmuirsystems.com/t/razorcut45-misfire-issue-razorweld-tech-bulletin-9-23-2020/10431 Hope the link works
@@ntdracing Link worked fine. If my RazorCut experiences misfire, I'll know what to check first. Thanks for the fast reply.
Nice
Why not just run one of those 70$ inline air dryer things?
I have a CamAir dryer, but it is not even close compared to the HF dryer. Not sure why, but the consumables last 5x longer.
professional electrician to connect your power wire? really :)
Well…I recommend that people hire a professional. Seems like the right thing to do.
that compressor need to be put in a box or outside. especially if its in your work environment
I agree, but it is rarely on. I only use it to plasma cut. I went to 20V for all my other tools.
Do you still have the air dryer and is it still working good?
Still love it. Working great.
@@ntdracing thanks I have the cross fire pro and was thinking on getting this.
Any info about it helping consumable life?
@@fil131 I think mine last about 5 times longer compared to the Cam-Air I was running.
Harbor freight air dryer for compressor
A professional electrician to wire up a 110V cord? Was that sarcastic?
More a CYA for him. People get real weird about electricity on the UA-cam. They are all experts......
@@tollav what is CYA? Thanks 😊
@@AlessioSangalli cover your a$$. Its a term that is like a blanket: "I'm not responsible for what you are about to do. I TOLD you the right thing. "
@@tollav I find that hard to believe. First of all: I love Dave and his videos. But this is the context: shop talk, CNC plasma cutter that "offers" pinch points, temperatures in excess of 20000 degrees, compressed gases, and literally how to design and manufacture suspension parts to go 100+MPH offroad in foreign countries. When it comes to connect a 110V outlet however... Come on ☺️
Ohhh now I get it, Cover Your A**, CYA in short 😂 but still, it seems excessive to me. For example watch this vijeo: ua-cam.com/video/ll5rLCP0aig/v-deo.html a female with long nails showing how to wire a set of lights, including a dimmer it's a much more challenging operation than the one discussed here 😂😂