@@Get_yotted gotta have a certain cable though you want a 12v cord with 2-2.5 amps and for more fancy modern radios you may need 5 amps id check the manual that comes with the radio or the sticker on the radio itself theres also a lot of youtube videos out there on this
@@Arszene Not how it works? The base applies 2nm max. The Force Feeback will feel weaker due to the heavier wheel but thats it. It does still exert the same amount of force. It wont exceed that no matter how big and heavy the steering wheel is.
Thrust master: just buy a new wheel and switch wheels Logitech: you gotta become a temporary mechanic to install your wheel MOZA: wheel comes off. Other wheel goes on
Mostly with the logitech wheels. Thrustmasters will be fine as long as you have a decently strong wheel. T300 and up is what I would recommend if you want a wheel like this.
I actually have a business getting ready to launch making modded parts and modding logitechs for customers. Been doing it since the driving force gt released. Anyways if your running a deep dish wheel, you have to reinforce the steering stem. Also you'll be better off completely disconnecting motherboard, and button housing. Run wires through the steering stem and mount the buttons in a button box. Depending on how you want it setup you may need to extend the wires a bit. Also make sure your wheel is a cheap ebay one if you haven't upgraded the rack n pinion gear set yet. If you want to run a real wheel, a heavier wheel, or a larger diameter, your gears will strip pretty badly over time. Typically noticeable around the 4-8 month mark depending on usage. One last thing if you decide to run a heavy, deep dish wheel thats almost twice the diameter, you'll need more than just the helical gear upgrade, a motor upgrade will more than likely be needed as well. Otherwise you'll start having over heating issues later on trying to over use the motors by increasing ffb in game beyond what they can handle. Although the cnc helical gear set would increase tq by roughly 19% you end up losing around 26% tq with oversized wheels assuming its a quality brand
if you r going to change your steering wheel, at least pick a light one, there are some cheap ones on aftermarket, a heavy wheel will completely destroy/overheat you ffb motor over time
true n like the spacer as well, i made my own spacer jus with a metal plate n drilled holes which is way lighter than the ones bought online n stronger than those 3d printed ones
@flosa1995 ofc it does. Try putting a suzuki engine on a chevy impala, ofc its going to strugle to move out of the place, bc its biggier and heavyer. im saying this by my own expirience. I have both a 300mm drift wheel and also the original one, the bigger the wheel is, the weakyer the ffb feels, im not going to explain it bc english is not my main language, and i probrably wouldnt explain it well. But the bigger the dyiameter of the wheel, the weakyier the ffb feels.
@@PozeFivem The force feedback is still the same The wheel is made to max apply 2.3nm of torque It doesn't matter if you use it at 100% ffb with a bigger wheel It would if there was a massive rpm increase of decrease but that isn't the case either All we did is decrease the *perceived* effect of the force feedback We do NOT drive the belt drive harder than before As you said the ffb is less with a bigger wheel which implies that it still uses the same amount of power In your example you drive the engine with higher rpm, temp and speed to match previous performance of a stronger engine We don't do that with the g29 If this was your example the car would be a lot slower as you would have to still use that engine with the identifical stress as before it was swapped into a heavier vehicle So yes, it feels weaker But no, it doesn't destroy the ffb as you implied in your initial comment I also have a 350mm wheel on my g29
Yeah it's based on wheel diameter but weight can affect it too which is why I'm not going to modify mine, I'm selling mine soon as I have ordered my first DD wheel
I feel like a larger diameter wheel would fuck with the internal mechanisms over time. That extra leverage going to cause a lot of strain and wear it out I bet Cool as hell tho
So always get a aftermarket wheel that’s lighter or the same weight as the original wheel. Lighter wheels will actually make the ffb stronger (not gonna explain why) and the same weight will well feel the same. Heavier wheels will make the ffb worse and make it more prone to failure and overheating.
That's true if the diameter of the wheel and weight location are the same, in this case he will loose (if that's a 320mm wheel) 12.5% of force just from the size difference, + a bit more since that wheel has most of its weight in the edges (that's because of leverage and inertia)
@@cesarjuniorcardoso1 Yep. If a wheel is light enough while being bigger it will still counterbalance or be more forceful but in most cases aftermarket = weaker
putting a bigger wheel on will give you more mechanical advantage over the motor, therefore dulling the force feedback. I wouldn't recommend doing this with a normal sized wheel
Gut gemacht 👍🏻 aber zu großes Wheel für die Klapper Base und shifter zu weit weg ! Spar lieber ein kleinwenig auf ein fanatec csl zum Beispiel ! Es gibt dafür schöne Lenkräder
Would this damage the gearing inside of the steering assembly due to the larger torque applied (through extra weight or potentially a larger steering wheel?)
"my fingers dont reach the shifter😭😭😭"
they sell longer paddle shifters for deep dish wheels online
Who are you quoting
Yeah you might have to get longer paddles after this 😂😂
@@SimRacingSucks just drill me some extension to the shifters
Imagine using paddle shifters 😐
Bro is slowly making his set-up a car
😢😅😢😅
Next up: how to engine swap your racing sim
@@gangstashankz7791😊
@@gangstashankz7791جججججججججىر
Might as well buy a car
Can we talk about how good the stock wheel looks without the controls
fax
no, we cant talk about it.
@@seallz You know...
that aint a bad idea
yeah g920 has the cleanest stock wheel
@@kadsicthat’s the g29
How can an racing setup look expensive and cheap as fuck at the same time? I dont know but this man knows.
Now you either need a real car to put it in, or just a car radio that works.
Phone?
@@SalihAhmad597 No.
Car radio is easy, just 12V power, and wire in speakers.
@@Get_yotted gotta have a certain cable though you want a 12v cord with 2-2.5 amps and for more fancy modern radios you may need 5 amps id check the manual that comes with the radio or the sticker on the radio itself theres also a lot of youtube videos out there on this
and a car dashboard
He is born to destroy the whole Logitech g29 ☠️
?
@@joeyb7084bigger wheel means bigger force needed for the motor to simulate FFB, hence it'll wear it out faster
@@Arszene
Not how it works?
The base applies 2nm max.
The Force Feeback will feel weaker due to the heavier wheel but thats it.
It does still exert the same amount of force.
It wont exceed that no matter how big and heavy the steering wheel is.
TO EVERYONE THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT IF YOU DO THIS CONEVERSION YOU WILL LOSE ALMOST ALL YOUR FORCE FEEDBACK
Not if you adjust your force fees back settings :)
how
@@SimRacingSucksu are still adding unnecessary weight to put the same round type wheel... geniouus.
Yeah, it makes a difference on even the thrustmaster tx/t300 wheels, can only imagine a logitech wheel with one of these lol.
@sebastiancastillo8763 how do you know how much the other wheel weights lmao maybe it's lighter?
This is actually the only TTS that doesn’t make me want to break something. I call it the Shogun Assassin voice
buuuuuuut its the scream voice
Well
Glad its not the DickDock girl voice
Its ghostfaces voice from scream
Aside from 'undo these to screws'. We have some really really advanced tech, but somehow some TTS don't correctly pronounce 'two'?
yeah, but your Force Feedback will suffer alot, so it is not really recommended
No it does not
@@Bill-bi7sk you sure? A heavier and bigger steering wheel will put a lot of stress on the force feedback mechanism, especially on a G29
@@Bill-bi7skThat's just how torque works. 2.5 Nm with such a large diameter isn't gonna do much
@@hamzerpanzerI don’t know if anyone here has the wheel but is it kinda strong. Like to the point where it doesn’t just feel like a slight push?
What if you use a lightweight sturdy wheel ? That will make it better than worse
How to make the Logitech force feedback even weaker😂
😂😂😂😂
Literally
Yea and it will die
It aint that weak brother,u never had it
@@hl8939 i did have it for your information, it was my first wheel
That was so amazing set up brother, I wish I could have that one someday.
The logitech's quick release in action.
This man has simultaneously the most baller and most ghetto setup
my wheelbase alone costs more than his whole setup lmao
@@ryleyhall6972 my chewing gum in the back of my pocket costs more
if you add a bigger steering wheel like that you loose a lot of force feedback
Not if the wheel is light
@@fbi4671 its also the size of that steering wheel that he did install because the force feedback gets disturbed on a large surface so that's why.
Bro is a hero fr
Your actually a legend
Thrust master: just buy a new wheel and switch wheels
Logitech: you gotta become a temporary mechanic to install your wheel
MOZA: wheel comes off. Other wheel goes on
Just had to say that it will make the force feedback be awful because the wheel weight and size, it's better to get at least a light one.
Mostly with the logitech wheels. Thrustmasters will be fine as long as you have a decently strong wheel. T300 and up is what I would recommend if you want a wheel like this.
Fact- He can now use g29 steering in car 😂
I did this with a 3D printed adapter to momo, then attatched an nrg quick release to make it interchangeable with other wheels
I recommend getting a quick release on it so you can take it off when it has to calibrate to extend the life on the set up, set up looks fire though
That would involve modifying the steering column which most people would probably try to avoid
Thanks this help a lot tysm
FFB now non existent with that heavy ass wheel on the G29 xD
nice driving , if ever i get money i will do a simulator cabin
I actually have a business getting ready to launch making modded parts and modding logitechs for customers. Been doing it since the driving force gt released. Anyways if your running a deep dish wheel, you have to reinforce the steering stem. Also you'll be better off completely disconnecting motherboard, and button housing. Run wires through the steering stem and mount the buttons in a button box. Depending on how you want it setup you may need to extend the wires a bit. Also make sure your wheel is a cheap ebay one if you haven't upgraded the rack n pinion gear set yet. If you want to run a real wheel, a heavier wheel, or a larger diameter, your gears will strip pretty badly over time. Typically noticeable around the 4-8 month mark depending on usage. One last thing if you decide to run a heavy, deep dish wheel thats almost twice the diameter, you'll need more than just the helical gear upgrade, a motor upgrade will more than likely be needed as well. Otherwise you'll start having over heating issues later on trying to over use the motors by increasing ffb in game beyond what they can handle. Although the cnc helical gear set would increase tq by roughly 19% you end up losing around 26% tq with oversized wheels assuming its a quality brand
At that point, it would be much better to get a thrustmaster wheel and do this mod if youre saying to upgrade the motor in the logi wheels.
@GamerGavin04 the motors are only like $30 so it's still well within the realm of being budget-friendly
@@damarlo1 Well damn that isnt too bad at all.
I might take that spacer from my car to do this 💀
if you r going to change your steering wheel, at least pick a light one, there are some cheap ones on aftermarket, a heavy wheel will completely destroy/overheat you ffb motor over time
true n like the spacer as well, i made my own spacer jus with a metal plate n drilled holes which is way lighter than the ones bought online n stronger than those 3d printed ones
@@grizzyt2757I’ll like to see a picture of it
Uhm no?
This doesn't change how much fbb is being applied
The g29 is made for 2.3nm torque and a bigger wheel doesn't increase that
@flosa1995 ofc it does. Try putting a suzuki engine on a chevy impala, ofc its going to strugle to move out of the place, bc its biggier and heavyer. im saying this by my own expirience. I have both a 300mm drift wheel and also the original one, the bigger the wheel is, the weakyer the ffb feels, im not going to explain it bc english is not my main language, and i probrably wouldnt explain it well. But the bigger the dyiameter of the wheel, the weakyier the ffb feels.
@@PozeFivem
The force feedback is still the same
The wheel is made to max apply 2.3nm of torque
It doesn't matter if you use it at 100% ffb with a bigger wheel
It would if there was a massive rpm increase of decrease but that isn't the case either
All we did is decrease the *perceived* effect of the force feedback
We do NOT drive the belt drive harder than before
As you said the ffb is less with a bigger wheel which implies that it still uses the same amount of power
In your example you drive the engine with higher rpm, temp and speed to match previous performance of a stronger engine
We don't do that with the g29
If this was your example the car would be a lot slower as you would have to still use that engine with the identifical stress as before it was swapped into a heavier vehicle
So yes, it feels weaker
But no, it doesn't destroy the ffb as you implied in your initial comment
I also have a 350mm wheel on my g29
Wow that wheel look so cool! where did u get that?
Thanks, Nice Info 👍
Changing the motor and power source ❌
Changing just the wheel ✅
thanks for making that observation i think thats all of our goal here
Your awesome dude
You are!
This mod is for people that failed highschool science, this is a great way to reduce the force feedback on your wheel
Nice video. Just so everyone knows if you switch your will you lose quite a bit of force feedback just thought I’d add that so people know.
Bro nice set up 😂
ladies and jentlemans... my logitech was burned
"white wire"
*proceeds to take out a black wire*
Did it with my g29 before upgrading to a DD. Only problem is the ffb isn't has good but I definitely approve the wheel👍
Yeah it's based on wheel diameter but weight can affect it too which is why I'm not going to modify mine, I'm selling mine soon as I have ordered my first DD wheel
Good day to you, Mr. SimRacingSucks. I was wondering where you got your new rim, and what spacer that is? Thank you.
This guy has the Theseus' Ship of the G29.
Ty this helped
"Remove the blue button"💀
what abt it
@@flyingdogeonrobloxmfs be laughing at anything
shit wasn't funny
@@draxuno ong
wow pure comedy i am pissing tears
it was pretty good
Also adding a heavier wheel will give you about 20% FFB reduction.
I feel like a larger diameter wheel would fuck with the internal mechanisms over time. That extra leverage going to cause a lot of strain and wear it out I bet
Cool as hell tho
I like the wheel as it is (I have a g29)
But that is well cool
“Disconnect the white” proceeds to show black wire
The wire with a white end…
@@Matty27 he told the white wire when it was black he did not say white end 😑
@@Waddlester well thats clearly what he meant, thats what people normally say
SimRacing: "Remove the wheel and disconnect the white wire"
"Diconnects black wire"
I like yr diy wooden driving stand
If you want a free f1 wheel but have the g29 just unscrew the wheel and use the paddleshifters as the handles, cheapest way to get an f1 wheel
Bro doing risky shid💀
🙌🏿🙌🏿🙌🏿 Dude thanks 🙏🏿
Oh yeah my name is Mr scratchy voice, I'll be the narrator for this tutorial
Are you satisfied with Logitech g29? Do you have any complaints? Vibration vs.
How to turn a 2nm belt driven wheel into a 1nm belt driven wheel
Thanks for poison tutorial Bro😅
Yeah, that's a way of doing it. There has long been an adapter that does not remove the buttons behind the steering wheel.
can you make a tutorial how to install the base version? As in a tutorial on how to plug all the wires in etc.
I want to do this thank you 👍
Go for it!
take care with the steering wheel weight, cause it can broke the spacer if it's too heavy
How did you get those extra set of bolts for the steering wheel or did you just buy them?
If only they made their own custom wheels
next tutorial: How to put the Logitech steering wheel in your car
can we talk about the shifter sequential setup, imma have to copy that bro 😭
Do you like it? Does the imput feel noticeablely weaker?
Now i am watching this video in reverse
So always get a aftermarket wheel that’s lighter or the same weight as the original wheel. Lighter wheels will actually make the ffb stronger (not gonna explain why) and the same weight will well feel the same. Heavier wheels will make the ffb worse and make it more prone to failure and overheating.
That's true if the diameter of the wheel and weight location are the same, in this case he will loose (if that's a 320mm wheel) 12.5% of force just from the size difference, + a bit more since that wheel has most of its weight in the edges (that's because of leverage and inertia)
@@cesarjuniorcardoso1 Yep. If a wheel is light enough while being bigger it will still counterbalance or be more forceful but in most cases aftermarket = weaker
i have a wheel and a adapter on its way rn im very exited
It does not mess with the FFB, you need to turn it up on the control panel/game you are playing. I’ve had my for 2 years with no problems.
U gotta make sure that the wheel is really light so that the g29 still has somewhat strong ffb
that looks suuuuuper unstable, looks like the wheels angling on the mount fairly hard
putting a bigger wheel on will give you more mechanical advantage over the motor, therefore dulling the force feedback. I wouldn't recommend doing this with a normal sized wheel
And lets say i would take a BMW e36 M wheel instead of a racing wheel Like in the Video how would i do it with that then or is it the Same?
T300RS: 🤫🧏♂️
Do you need to screw back paddle shifters and buttons?
What custom wheel are you using for this.
Me shameless watching it while I don't hve it
Welcome to lack of FFB central!
So, is no one talking about how he changes gears without pressing clutch💀
Does someone know what’s the name of that new wheel or where you can buy it? Thanks
Where do you get the blue adapter? Thanks
Can you do tutorial for the g920???
Or just buy a Thrustmaster Wheelbase
i cant afford it
Some people can't afford to buy one although I can't say this is any better than just saving
Which ones did you use
What do you play this on for the device?
The buttons are well far from the front of the wheel too but it will be more realistic for dirt rally 2.0
You'll need a motor after that massive wheel burns the one in the g-29 out.
I run a deep dish sparco wheel and love it for drifting
Bro literally here in the philippines the g29 shifter pedals cost 16k😭
16k philippines pesos is equal to 286 USD.
@@jayyhick65I know but it’s expensive
@@Gamingwithme595it's cheaper than in the UK currently, going by currency convertion
Genius.
Gut gemacht 👍🏻 aber zu großes Wheel für die Klapper Base und shifter zu weit weg ! Spar lieber ein kleinwenig auf ein fanatec csl zum Beispiel ! Es gibt dafür schöne Lenkräder
Where did you buy that wheel?
do you lose any force feedback with the deep dish?
imagine not having one that already comes off
FYI while this may look cool, you lose like a nm if force feedback cause of the extra weight
Damn bro, how are you? Finna touch the buttons
Will this bring the airbag light on? asking for a friend.
Would this damage the gearing inside of the steering assembly due to the larger torque applied (through extra weight or potentially a larger steering wheel?)
It’s the worst thing that I’ve ever done, cus the custom wheel is heavier than the stock one so the force feed back fked
Como haces la palanca para el drif?
nice
Thanks