Scarlet Crusade Joins Alliance?! Monastery Revamp Datamined 10.1.5!

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  • @Doronsmovies
    @Doronsmovies  Рік тому +4

    What do you think will be happening with the Scarlets? Also get great deals with my discount code 'DORON' www.gamivo.com/?glv=Doronsmovies

  • @Patrious_WoW
    @Patrious_WoW Рік тому +58

    if SC are joining the Alliance i will join the Alliance on the spot

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  Рік тому +12

      I definitely think with how much has changed with both their faction and the Alliance that a pardon can be written, or at least a small portion rebelling against the zealots.

    • @marcedmonson
      @marcedmonson Рік тому +1

      You’re missing out bud

    • @pirategekblackbeak6341
      @pirategekblackbeak6341 Рік тому +1

      If the Scarlet Crusade joins the Alliance, they're going to lose all their character and uniqueness as a faction. Besides their rich lore, what made them interesting and unique were the fact that they were antagonistic Light fanatics in a setting where anyone using Light are usually neutral to friendly with the players. If they join the Alliance, then all that made them stand out as villains will be lost. Besides the fact another order, the Knights of the Silver Hand, already rejoined the Alliance during the Fourth War, so I'd say they're enough.

    • @primarchxi6639
      @primarchxi6639 10 місяців тому

      @@pirategekblackbeak6341 Thats the point here! SC should NOT be the stupid villains in every exp that gets their asses whooped just like that.... so poor writing! This faction has sooooo much potential! They can work as the necessary "evil" ally, willing to do all the dirty work, which none of the "noble" and "righteous" ones wont!

  • @Dontatellversace
    @Dontatellversace Рік тому +63

    The Scarlet Crusade is truly one of the most memorable enemies in the game. They have great depth and just a really nice story.

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  Рік тому +4

      Definitely agree.

    • @snappycenter7863
      @snappycenter7863 Рік тому +1

      I think the Scarlet Crusade are losing their nuance and being reduced to stereotypical fanatics and punching bags.

    • @juselara02
      @juselara02 Рік тому

      Absolutely. One of my favorite part of the WoW lore.

    • @primarchxi6639
      @primarchxi6639 10 місяців тому

      @@snappycenter7863 Exactly what im saying for years!! They keep screwing up that Order!!😡

  • @AlexCombes
    @AlexCombes Рік тому +15

    Fun fact, in France we actually have a town called "Avallon", with its middle-age style well preserved

  • @Kenji-117
    @Kenji-117 Рік тому +27

    Literally the coolest enemy faction in the game and I hope that they get their order reformed and restored in a way that it shouldve been in the first place. Imagine if the argent crusade, argent dawn, the silver hand and the scarlet crusade manage to restore lordaeron and cleanse the plaguelands... a dream would become true.

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  Рік тому +3

      I think cleansing is kind out of the picture now with the Forsaken being 'good' although I could see them getting a part of the plaguelands and restoring some form of Lordaeron definitely as a thing.

    • @pirategekblackbeak6341
      @pirategekblackbeak6341 Рік тому

      @@Doronsmovies The Scarlet Crusade doesn't care about their morality, their problem is the fact they're undead in the first place, free will or otherwise.

    • @carmagadon11
      @carmagadon11 Рік тому

      Should come with Inquisitor and Torturer class. 😮

    • @warllockmasterasd9142
      @warllockmasterasd9142 Рік тому +1

      I mean the Scarlet crusade was the Silverhand.
      then the order lost track and split into the Argent Dawn, the Scarlet crusade and the silverhand.
      then the Argent dawn and the Silverhand formed the Argent Crusade.
      the Dawn actually tried hard to get the Crusade to join them again in proper, but the Scarlets refused to give up their power.
      also they were the strongest faction until the Lich King returned.

    • @shawnwarrynn8609
      @shawnwarrynn8609 Рік тому +1

      They should at least get back Tirisfal.

  • @TheMrToxin
    @TheMrToxin Рік тому +16

    I wonder if Garithos' forces, what remained of them, joined the Scarlets, it was never addressed in the game and I assume it's the case.

  • @sebastianpinoalipaz5935
    @sebastianpinoalipaz5935 Рік тому +17

    Nothing will beat the OG Crusade, being able to go back to the old Monastery when Classic launched was an unmatched feeling of nostalgia

  • @xadamx94
    @xadamx94 Рік тому +11

    According to the exploring Azeroth; northrend book, the bronzebeards reported their was a shocking amount of crusaders remaining at their hold in dragonblight

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  Рік тому +5

      Yes remembered that once I released the video, totally forgot to mention it.

  • @wildemary
    @wildemary Рік тому +3

    "How many times to we have to teach you this LESSON old man!!!"
    - quote from that one Spongebob episode 😂

  • @MrOrcshaman
    @MrOrcshaman Рік тому +3

    Turalyon's going to want fanatical light based troops, so he will likely get the scarlet crusade allowing them back into the alliance so long as they agree to become light bound.
    This could somehow tie in with orc and forsaken paladins on the horde side since it's been said all races will get to be paladins

  • @wowvinnyr4306
    @wowvinnyr4306 Рік тому +5

    The scarlet crusade is so epic. Great work again Doron, keep it up!

  • @Mjoellnir1984
    @Mjoellnir1984 Рік тому +6

    Okay, what did I miss? Turalyon "super close to the Scarlet Crusade"? He got lost in Outland before the Scarlet Crusade was founded and returned way after they were basically destroyed as a faction after WotLK and Cataclysm. Who does he know and who is he close too?

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  Рік тому +5

      I meant as in he and the founders of the Scarlet Crusade have common history that is quite close. Plus as a Lordaeron noble it is safe to assume that he has a vested interest in the kingdom being restored.

    • @evaderoom
      @evaderoom Рік тому +1

      To add to Doron's comment, Turalyon is pretty fanatical with regard to the Light. That's why his ideology fits in so well with theirs.

  • @ciram9082
    @ciram9082 Рік тому +1

    What if the leaflets, the Scarlets and all that are to be part of the Forsaken Heritage questline? We have Calia and Lilian as part of the Forsaken leadership, after all.

  • @xavieno
    @xavieno Рік тому +3

    Scarlet Crusade is one of the best villains in all of Warcraft in my opinion.

  • @damiencrossley7497
    @damiencrossley7497 Рік тому +1

    and I got in 27/08/2023 the SCARLET TABARD (it still drops 3 years of hunts) soon as I get the plate transmog for me WOW is DONE thanks for playing! The rest is gravy!

  • @tatalsaba
    @tatalsaba Рік тому +2

    I would love to fight the Scarlets again, they have so much potential that hasn't been realised yet.

  • @svart_kors
    @svart_kors Рік тому +2

    The Scarlet Crusade is my favourite thing about the game, the only thing I care about and I hope they come back strong. WoW needs it's strong lore characters / forces and we are lacking them in Dragonflight. Hail the Scarlet Crusade!

  • @dropje223
    @dropje223 Рік тому +1

    2 dollars says next Horde vs Alliance war
    Horde be bad guys again even if Alliance got scarlet, it will turn out they are all missunderstood, innocent peeps.

  • @alexandrusuteu9731
    @alexandrusuteu9731 Рік тому +5

    I'm really interested to see where this is going. Turalyon might really be the catalyst of Yrel's invasion when it comes to the Light's dominating tendencies. There is more and more void and light themes. Wish I knew more of Anduin's wherebouts now, especially when it comes to his touch with the light and the fact that he tapped into void as well during BFA.

  • @toxicwhiteGermanmale
    @toxicwhiteGermanmale Рік тому +4

    *For Lordaeron, for the crusade!*

  • @Esuy
    @Esuy Рік тому +2

    I just wanted to mention that you often mention Calia being on the Throne or a heir to the Throne.
    But Calia herself didn't really wish to have a single rule anymore. The Forsaken are led by a Council, just like the Horde itself. Calia is purely a part if it. Her being a Menethil doesn't matter as much and since she is undead, the Scarlets wouldn't tolerate her either.
    Unless the Scarlets are not as fanatic and undead hostile anymore.

    • @justine8398
      @justine8398 Рік тому

      You tend to forget the SC are fanatics of the light and she was brought back to life with the light-infused within her by a Naruu. So her being a light-forged undead and a Menethil make her case unique although SC often kills one another over dumb rumors so who knows.

    • @francescoporcari8597
      @francescoporcari8597 Рік тому

      ​@@justine8398that light-infused undeath is pure bullshit, but it's in the lore, unfortunately.
      I think that any proper Crusader would be eager to give her a one-way ticket to the Shadowlands.

    • @Esuy
      @Esuy Рік тому

      @@francescoporcari8597 as they said in the questline about Calia.
      Necromancy is Necromancy, doesn't matter from or how it was done.
      Its still a bit dumb , but what can you do.

    • @francescoporcari8597
      @francescoporcari8597 Рік тому

      @@Esuy it is, and however my (head)canon still provides that necromancy is define by unholy magic and or what we now call domination magic (i.e.arthas and his corrupted valkyr magic)

  • @Kubapajonczek
    @Kubapajonczek Рік тому

    I hope we get some info on the Scarlet Renegades, the sub-faction that appeared in cata version of the SM before MoP's yet another revamp, in which they allied with the Alliance after finding out about Balnazzar corrupting the Crusade, which they then sought to purify and restore to being a righteous order, maybe that group of Scarlets will be the ones that join the Alliance

    • @calebhelton725
      @calebhelton725 4 місяці тому

      same i currently rp as a scarlet renegade on moonguard love the crusades history and aesthetic but lets just say i have been persecuted ic for bearing the flame even though in character i explain i am a follower of joseph the awakened and they all treat me like i am in the brotherhood lead by goodchilde

  • @protomimic
    @protomimic Рік тому +1

    One important detail Calia had a daughter not a son so it's one of the more easily proven wrong propaganda pieces of the Scarlet where Calia's daughter is no one knows but it was theorized that it was Talia Fordragon

  • @tac7073
    @tac7073 10 місяців тому

    Nothing pisses off a moon guard rp’er quite like the flame on the front of that glorious tabard. 😂

  • @Mycenaea
    @Mycenaea Рік тому

    It's such a shame we never got a proper Scarlet Crusade RAID. I hope we get that one day.

  • @viktorcederholm8186
    @viktorcederholm8186 Рік тому

    Hopeing now if this rewamp happen let us have Bard class and Shadow Hunters soon !

  • @RexVenge95
    @RexVenge95 Рік тому

    Hmmm, if Yrel ever comes through the Dark Portal in the future, I could see the Scarlet Crusade joining the Lightbound's forces and becoming very relevant again... Maybe the theories are true?

  • @scarletcrusader5431
    @scarletcrusader5431 Рік тому +1

    I've been waiting for the Crusades return ever since Wrath(MoP doesn't count, they ruined it then). I really hope the Crusade comes back with an explosive entry

    • @dr.strangelove9815
      @dr.strangelove9815 Рік тому

      I hope the Scarlet Crusade joins the Alliance, especially after all that has transpired. The Silver Hand has rejoined the Alliance, and considering the Scarlet Crusade has many aged veterans of the Third War, many years ago now, they need to rejoin and seek to rebuild their homesteads in Lordaeron.

  • @liviubostan7229
    @liviubostan7229 Рік тому

    I'd love a split in faction between the Scarlet once more.
    As the dead have been risen,either by the Light such as how Calia did and the other survivors of the Scarlet fighting over ideology,land and even the throne of Lordaeron.
    With the Undead Scarlets,obviously,joining the Horde and Calia and the Council for guidance and assistance while survivors go for assistance from the Alliance.
    Now why should the Horde and Alliance help their enemies,well just like in 90% of WoW lore,they'll try to change their ideology and will see this as a good enough reason to gain more land for the newly depleted armies after Legion,4th war and Shadowlands.
    As we all know the lands of Lordaeron,Arathi and Gilneas have had time to either heal from the Cataclysm or were not that affected by the conflicts.

  • @warllockmasterasd9142
    @warllockmasterasd9142 Рік тому

    I believe they had an envoy with the Alliance way back in Classic.

  • @corycheeks2752
    @corycheeks2752 9 місяців тому

    WOW could do a purge event that ends at the Monastery

  • @davidcosta2244
    @davidcosta2244 Рік тому

    Maybe if the Alliance, and Scarlet Crusade become allies, then they'll want to spread the Light in the way that Yrel was on the alternate Draenor.

  • @stevenrusch6341
    @stevenrusch6341 Рік тому

    I bet you that KB is all over the Alliance for pardoning the Scarlet Crusade.

  • @CainCorvinus
    @CainCorvinus Рік тому

    IMO Turalyon should be the new king of Lordaeron

  • @BDFProtector
    @BDFProtector Рік тому

    Fractures in Time?

  • @Ryshmosh
    @Ryshmosh Рік тому

    ngl I love Scarlet Crusade faction the most! ♥ I was always farming the tabard.

  • @masterblue1
    @masterblue1 Рік тому

    Maybe they're revamping these dungeons to bring them as M+ in a later patch

  • @snappycenter7863
    @snappycenter7863 Рік тому

    Turalyon would not work with the Scarlet Crusade and he's no fanatic. His girlfriend/baby-momma is a Void elf, he challenged a Naaru to save said elf and his closest allies includes mages, shamans and druids. His baby-momma is an elf, his son is a half-elf and his closest friends are mostly Draenei, Worgen, Elves or Undead (except Khadgar, who is a mage) while the Scarlet Crusade hate non-humans.
    I'm worried the Scarlet Crusade are losing their nuance and being reduced to mustache-twirling fanatics and punching bags.

  • @abjak2026
    @abjak2026 Рік тому +1

    Love the Scarlet Crusade. They are my favorite version of fantasy Nazis and I hope they come back as a primary antagonist in the future light/void expansion.

  • @TeamHermes39
    @TeamHermes39 Рік тому

    Is Anduin coming back at some point or is he just gone forever?

  • @pirategekblackbeak6341
    @pirategekblackbeak6341 Рік тому

    I really hope they don't ruin the Scarlet Crusade as we know them, tbh. If the Scarlet Crusade joins the Alliance, they're going to lose all their character and uniqueness as a faction. Besides their rich lore, what made them interesting and unique were the fact that they were antagonistic Light fanatics in a setting where anyone using Light are usually neutral to friendly with the Adventurers. If they join the Alliance, then all that made them stand out as villains will be lost. Besides the fact another order, the Knights of the Silver Hand, already rejoined the Alliance during the Fourth War, so I'd say they're enough.

  • @eternallegacy89
    @eternallegacy89 Рік тому

    They just introducing religion in wow... Scarlet Crusade or the Scarlet Onslaught for the Alliance and the Shadow Council of the Horde.

  • @cairokmiddleton9383
    @cairokmiddleton9383 Рік тому

    I knew that was going to happen they are rebooting the story for the new audience -once you get the corrupted ashbringer is a new storyline Naxxramas (Classic) now Naxxramas (Retail) drop corrupted ashbringer ----they should have a new mission in shadowlands that the corrupted ashbringer from Maldraxxus could drop in a word boss in Maldraxxus- but that's my dream what you think

  • @Storlans
    @Storlans Рік тому

    Wait are we getting a Scarlet crusade dungeon but they are also joining us?

  • @ogstef
    @ogstef Рік тому

    You're the best WoW channel bro

  • @LordDarkflash
    @LordDarkflash Рік тому

    Maaaan if you don't go and do the Forsaken questline at the end of Shadowlands again 😂 where did you get that Calia is ruling the Forsaken or even want to?

  • @eleenb
    @eleenb Рік тому

    I keep thinking, Talia--Calia? Fordragon, Arathiblood? Married secretly/unknown to the public. And the heir, «saved» by a ship off to Kul Tiras with so many others. Sure Cathrine have some secrets held close(?)
    The SC either have wrong intel on the gender or know it and wish to conceal and confuse to protect her?
    Alot of contradicting thoughts, but hey, whats even canon officially these days🤣🤣

    • @MSinistrari
      @MSinistrari Рік тому

      From what I remember, the SC had a bit of a drop in membership quality around the time of WotLK. They sent a good chunk of the more 'sane' members to Northrend, and there was the assault by the DKs in their starter zone, so the ones left behind were the tinfoil hat wearing nutters. Calia admitted she had a daughter who went missing with her secret husband during a Scourge attack, so the leaflet was likely a mix of stumbled upon legit and crazytalk.

  • @momogal04
    @momogal04 10 місяців тому

    How many people here after the latest patch and laughing after purging the Scarlets from Gilneas?

    • @calebhelton725
      @calebhelton725 4 місяці тому

      i was on moonguard in my scarlet gear reclaiming gilneas i was rping as a scarlet renegade coming to the call of my alliance allies to strike at the corrupt crusade i bet i made people think what the heck is that man doing...i'm over here like i'm doing what should have been done long ago XD

  • @I_am_Fred-788
    @I_am_Fred-788 Рік тому

    You didn't provide any information we don't already know 😂

  • @alexsylvester7523
    @alexsylvester7523 Рік тому

    I would love to see the SM of Old to make it to live .. Im honestly not a fan of the new SM routes and mapping tbh kinda kills my love of the SM dung

    • @calebhelton725
      @calebhelton725 4 місяці тому

      there is a way to access the vanilla scarlet monastery you just need to get the scarlet key to drop and take it to the key ring by the stairway leading into the monastery once you use the item you will be able to access the old SM wings

  • @blackmark2899
    @blackmark2899 Рік тому

    You got some information wrong. First and foremost, Calia is NOT ruling the Forsaken. She's a part of the Desolate Council and the representative of that council to the Horde. Secondly the Scarlet Crusade is destroyed. The Scarlet Brotherhood is all that's left. They put those pamphlets out and Blizz said that they are last echoes of the Scarlets. Basically crazy conspiracy theorists. Last but not least, Turyalon sharing an origin with the Scarlet's founder doesn't mean he'd join them or even be close. Tirion also fall under that umbrella and he definitely wasn't close with them or share their ideals.

    • @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
      @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 Рік тому

      While you're right about Calia, the Scarlet Crusade isn't destroyed. It's still active enough to maintain a presence in Tirisfal all of this time later, and just like how there are people who support the visions of dictators like Hitler or Stalin, there are people who support the Scarlet Crusade. Also, I'd like to see the source of where you got this from.

    • @blackmark2899
      @blackmark2899 Рік тому

      @@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 the Crusade or Onslaught in this case is somehow still in Northrend, somehow. But the presence in Trisfal is diminished down to the point where there is only the Brotherhood left. That was as of a Q and A. According to Blizz, that's all that's left. Not enough to be called the Crusade they once were.

    • @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
      @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 Рік тому

      @@blackmark2899 Do you have a link to this QNA? Also, "somehow"? Are you suggesting that the Scarlets don't do the dirty? That they wouldn't have the reinforcements to call upon in New Hearthglen?

    • @blackmark2899
      @blackmark2899 Рік тому

      @@ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 I'll have to go hunting for it so that'll take some time.
      As for the Northrend Scarlets: 1. It was heavily implied that they gathered almost all of their forces to head to Northrend. Not only was that force assaulted by the Scourge in the DK starting zone but also by the Forsaken in the zone. 2. Reinforcements couldn't have come from Hearthglen. The Argents took that over by the time of Cata and that was almost right after Wrath in-universe. New Hearthglen is moot because that is where they are active at in Northrend. They are somehow still active despite getting constantly assaulted from all sides. 3. As for them banging each other, the timeline is too short. At most those born there, if any, would be 10 - 11 years old. And that's only if the Scarlets were going at it during Wrath. Not enough time for a fresh generation to grow up and be in fighting form.

    • @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
      @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 Рік тому

      @@blackmark2899 You put too much faith in the Crusade to start using child soldiers.

  • @ErinMcIntyre-cw2qc
    @ErinMcIntyre-cw2qc Рік тому

    👍

  • @mathenis
    @mathenis Рік тому

    didn't like Arthas wiped them all out with DK's

    • @Kenji-117
      @Kenji-117 Рік тому +2

      No only the scarlet enclave in eastern plaguelands but not the monastery.

    • @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460
      @ttpbroadcastingcompany.4460 Рік тому

      Arthas did not destroy the entire Scarlet Crusade, just those at New Avalon and Havenshire. That region was called the Scarlet Enclave and was right behind Tyr's Hand.

  • @slagwerk111
    @slagwerk111 Рік тому

    Crezy join allience lol

  • @lord_pamperin4233
    @lord_pamperin4233 Рік тому +2

    The Scarlet Crusade hates the undead/forsaken so if they joins the alliance could that mean bfa 2.0? 😅

    • @Doronsmovies
      @Doronsmovies  Рік тому +3

      My idea is through Calia as an actual heir to the throne of Lordaeron they might change their mind. At least the guys that were not writting those leaflets lol.

    • @lord_pamperin4233
      @lord_pamperin4233 Рік тому

      @@Doronsmovies we could hope! 🙌
      But i still want small conflicts between the factions

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 Рік тому

      ​@@Doronsmovies They lost as many people as the Blood Elves. Scarlet Crusade OG members have to be mostly dead by now with the newer ones having spent 5+ years working around non evil Undead.
      But didn't all the decent members already join the Argent Dawn and turn that into the Argent Crusade? The Scarlet Crusade is over, it's the Scarlet Onslaught. So now it just needs to rename itself into Scarlet Inquisition/Redemption/Dawn.

    • @Kenji-117
      @Kenji-117 Рік тому +1

      They hated not only the undead but every other race too because the order was corrupted and practiced extrwme fanatism and zealotry. This wasnt the case when the order was established. Maybe if they can now restore it they'll be an ally of the alliance.

  • @Modrov
    @Modrov Рік тому +1

    If trough this this game will be Alliance vs Horde again I ll mayabe resub to wow 😂
    We need bfa 2 without all that old gods stupid stuff

  • @oppossumX
    @oppossumX Рік тому +1

    Scarlet crusade did nothing wrong.

  • @aleksandarvil5718
    @aleksandarvil5718 Рік тому

    Scarlet Crusade >>>> Argent Crusade

  • @yooaxel
    @yooaxel Рік тому

    some of your videos are really nice but man , you just started to repeat the same thing every video

  • @kingnothing007
    @kingnothing007 Рік тому +2

    The Scarlet Crusade was right. We should have wiped them all out! Arthas was right! Glory for the Ashbringer!