Too. Bad Volkswagen cheated on their emissions tests, and their diesels needed to be recalled in the USA. I had my 2014 since 2013, and it is awesome! You can find many of the VW's parked in huge fields till they figure out what to do with them
i drive a 4door golf TDI and Im getting over 47mpg on the highway and getting 38mpg in the city so I'm averaging around 42mpg. in the summer i averaging 44mpg thats crazy and my Golf has all soft touch materials on the inside feels like Im driving and Audi, plus the handling is so awesome even though the Golf tdi is front wheel drive actually it feels like all wheel drive car have too say VW did a really good job on these TDI's
I would choose the VW Golf 5 door TDI 6 speed manual with sunroof & navigation, all weather floor mats & splash guards for $27,350.00 than either the more expensive Jetta or Cruze.
I just jammed from LA to SF in my Jetta TDI wagon averaging a real 78mph with stops and 36mpg (with a 4-bike rack, empty, on top). The Jetta handles well and the engine and gearing are awesome on the highway. I love this car!
+ray britton i have a 2015 jetta TDI i average 46mpg city and highway with the auto DSG i drive alot from Ohio to NJ and back i get roughly 720 miles to a single tank im actually half way back through PA before filling up and it only has a 14 gallon tank, yes VW did lie but in all honesty who cares, its still a great car.
This is the 1st ever review of those 2 i see the Jetta getting better fuel economy, every other the Cruze won. Like always its better to check multiple reviews before making a choice. Oh and btw, the Cruze has a proper emission system on it.
Have to disagree with the Cruze highway mileage. Either he drove it hard or didn't reset the info center. I have a 2014 Cruze diesel that averages 52mpgs on interstate. I think these guys are bias to the VW. You can go to any diesel cruze thread forums and see the same results for highway MPGs. I have gotten 800 miles from 1 tank of fuel and still had a 1/4 tank left.
I'm going on Jetta number 4 since 2008 and will never buy another car, my in-laws are the same way they are on their 4th TDI. I am getting my first TDI this weekend. Jetta is really comfy and a better reputation.
I own a TDi jetta,and brakes on it is totally fine. VW always place less fuel economy on paper then it usually gets, i had top avg of 47.4 mpg. And this car is defiantly more fun to drive then Cruze. with DSG transmission and it's sports gear)
First I would like to point out that those safety features are available on the jetta. I just looked at a 2015 jetta tdi 6 speed manual with the lighting package and it's all there. active cruise, cornering lights, ect I just sold a 2005 beetle with 5 speed manual tdi. 38-45mpg always. VW TDI's really hold thier value well over time and run forever if you do the maintenance. 220000 miles and it still ran and drove like new. I'm ot a chevy hater. I just can't think of any cars they've made recently that I'd want to spend any money on ten years later.
look real world here. im on my 2nd vw jetta diesel. I have a bone stock 2011 leather interior. this weekend I drove 1000 to iowa and back in 72 hours. I drove it like I stole it. its the automatic version and I averaged 45.1 mpg. I had to go up and down mtns in west virginia pa and md. in one strech near morgantown I had it on cruise control at 73mph in a 70. some woman in a beater durango just had to pass me going up the mtn. 2 miles later she blew it up...penny for penny I have never had nicer car for the money and I have owned maybe 50 cars. when I filled up it said 600 miles to empty...keep your batteries.
For the record, I got 1005 kms (624 miles) on 52.062 liters (13.7 US Gal) which works out to 45.5 MPG (US). This was last month while it was still winter at almost all highway driving (some city driving) at 65 MPH (cruise control set). I can see getting almost 50 MPG on summer tires and in warmer weather.
If you refer to MK5 and MK4, then yes, Fuck the Cruze. But the MK6 VW is SHIT. The cruze is built more solid and more comfortable. I had a 2013 VW TDI until recently ( accident ) and I WAS DISSAPOINTED. Shitty hard plastics, still using timing belts and the body feels like a tin can and light as a feather compared to the previous MK5 that felt like a solid tank. They really cheaped out. I always ( and still do ) liked VWs, but if I'm gonna buy a German car, I WANT A GERMAN CAR. Not a fucking "feel like" Corolla.
Fuck both. Depends what you're referring to. The Jetta interior is VERY CHEAP. ( at least from 2011 to 2013 ). The cruze has better interior and feels more comfortable as the car is a bit heavier and less shitty plastics inside. When it comes to handling and the driving itself, especially on the highway. Fuck the Chevy for sure. But the 2017 is much better. I just bought one after getting involved in an accident with my Jetta 2013 and the Cruze ain't bad at all. Much better than the previous generation. But VWs are not what they used to be. I had a MK4 TDI and that bitch was good. I shouldn't have never sold it. Much better than MK6 and MK7. MK5 is not bad either.
During my last trip to Florida in my 2014 Cruze diesel, I averaged 53 mpg for 2 hours @ 73 mph on flat Florida highways. I believe that the testers used the mileage from the cars drivers information center. They should have driven the cars at least 100 miles to get an accurate reading of highway mileage. After being reset, the cruze mileage in the dic continues to climb until about 75 miles.15 miles is not enough to get true mileage from the dic.
I've learned after 2 years of owning my 12 golf tdi, that it does have good mpg's but it varies. If the temp is below 30 degrees than it can barley get to 40 mpg and as soon as it gets above 40 deg. the mpg's get better. Overall i feel this car is more of a highway car and doesn't get good city milage, and as soon as you start to idle you see your mpg's drop fast.
The price difference is unbelievable! Also, the fuel numbers are really out of touch with reality; the VW has better fuel economy in the city and highway. Overall, this isn't even close; the VW is by far the better car. I feel bad for anyone who buys the Cruze over the VW based on the advertised fuel economy numbers without realizing that the VW is actually more efficient in reality.
Hearing the hwy fuel mileage on the Cruze makes me think it may have done a regen, especially if they were driving in the 60 mph range. I drive a newer diesel truck and it goes from 19 ish mpg to 11 when it does a regen on the freeway and you don’t even know it’s doing it. Just a thought.
True, on the Cruze, the fuel mileage almost goes to half during regen. There’s an aftermarket gauge for that, but the Cruze doesn’t come with one, so you often don’t know.
What's with that stupid Civic. It's a fucking cop magnet. Honda targets 20 year olds. You drive on the highway in a Civic or you're riding in an Audi, guess who will the cops target first???
The Chevy gets worse gas mileage, it is more expensive, and gives no manual transmission option.. The Cruze also has a small backseat, as opposed to the Jetta which has a comfortable back seat. We averaged 49.8 in our 2012 Jetta TDI running roughly 80 mph down to Florida with 5 people and luggage. Every GM vehicle I have ever owned has gotten less than the EPA estimates said. My Jetta is averaging over the highway estimates. The Cruze should cost less than the Jetta..
Torque converter automatics are okay. Only if it’s like that 8 speed ZF auto on BMW’s, they have lightning fast shifts with great economy numbers for a torque converter automatic
I owned a 2013 Cruze (gas ) 1.4 Turbo for 2 years and loved it. Not sure what they were talking about with handling feels inprecise because that was one thing I loved about my Cruze. They are also wrong about the seats. While comfortable on short stints they hurt on long trips. I was excited to have a Jetta Rental 2 weeks ago on a trip. I was not impressed at all with it though. The radio sucked, brakes felt very non-linear, engine was weak and needed to be floored to get the trans to downshift enough to let it use the high rpms and the trans shifted like a 10 yo car. Also keep in mind people DSG trans' s like the Volkswagen's have a high failure rate and are extremely expensive to fix.
I have never had any trouble with my brakes on my 2011 Jetta or the Passat 2013!!! I get over 50 MPG on most trips. Average 48 most of the time. I have not paid anything on either of my VWs to date as they are still on warranty.
15 miles test range? You do realize that cruze was in Regen? It goes in regent at least about ones a tank, ones in regent milage will be less for the duration of the regen. When these tested head to head on a full tank, cruze hands down kills Jetta on MPG by like 4+ MPG
I like VWs but don't kid yourself, VWs have their weaknesses and the Chevy cruze diesel IS A EUROPEAN ENGINE as well. The car was designed in South Korea with a European made engine, so you're obviously BRAND biased, but the Cruze diesel 2017 uses Timing chains while VWs still use belts. GO figure.
I used to own a mk4 VW golf TDI (2001 year). Sold it at 280k miles and still ran great. I was getting close to 45mpg average with my 5 speed transmission. Mainly thanks to it's lack of emission's equipment
Russell Tanner I'd say they remained around the same. Though the newer engines have a ton more power than the old ones. Volkswagen diesels have always since the dawn of time been under rated by the EPA estimates. My friend's newer TDI gets 49mpg. Even though the EPA says on the highway it gets 42 max. He's averaging 40's in the city
The Cruze is much worse. Handling is spongy and soft, diesel clatter is louder than a mk4 Jetta, interior quality is appauling, doesn't get the mpg of the Jetta, doesn't have the room of the Jetta, and it will be less reliable since its made in Detroit and has a diesel by Opel. Jetta wins.
+Jeff Morse Sure. "Transport & Environment says ICCT tests show clear discrepancies between laboratory emissions and real-world performance for several automakers including BMW, Mercedes-Benz and General Motors’ Opel unit. It argued that these manufacturers might also employ similar kinds of software in Europe that VW has allegedly admitted to using in the U.S." www.autonews.com/article/20150922/OEM06/150929954/diesel-test-report-cites-emissions-gaps-at-other-automakers And the Cruze was clearly said to get 39mpg highway vs the 46mpg that the EPA claimed.
I owned one,emissions nightmare,they had to pull the head to clean the carbon.Water pump failed,def heater failed,multiple sensors failed.Check the Cruze Diesel forums and see what a nightmare they are.
Volkswagen's 2.0 TDI is simply the best engine in the world if you combine MPG and driving feel - If you want to go quick, it'll go quick, if you want to save fuel, it'll save tons of fuel. Amazing. (much better than a shitty boring prius)
Jetta is better. American companies always trying to exaggerate their mpg numbers. Sad with more power and money spent it still can't beat vw in mpg, speed, and quality.
VW doesn't have a good reputation for reliability. It is very disappointing however that the Chevy Cruze Diesel is so far below it's EPA rating on the highway! I would be supremely pissed off if I was 7 mpg off....but I don't know....15 miles? That doesn't seem like a whole lot of highway driving. I have seen other reviews that have been way off the estimated highway numbers though
SlipknotMaggot0526 VW doesn't have a bad reputation for reliability, in fact it's quite the opposite. It's just some kind nationalism that makes some Americans badmouth foreign car-makers.
Coming from someone who has extensive experience driving both, I completely disagree on the noise comparison. Not only is the Cruze quieter on the highway, but it's suspension doesn't crash over bumps like the veedub. Jetta kills it on interior legroom but materials are much better in the Cruze. I'd take the Cruze for the more solid feeling and quality materials. Sad that VW had to cheapen things after the previous gen. Those had great materials.
it is still a chevy they have a lousy rep at making small cars be it their own or german , or asian besides athe prizm , a corolla , and matbe a metro , which would run forever , but kill you in harshness
In mixed driving, I average 39. Spring and fall is when I get the best economy. And it's routinely in 46-47 range, for the highway, but then again I always find myself doing 75-80 mph.
***** The Jetta gets 3 or 4 less than the Passat due to different exhaust purification mechanisms (the Jetta uses fuel to burn off the other fuel... yeah). Also they get a lot as they break in, but I'd think that'd be the same with a Cruze diesel too. I have a 2014 Passat TDI that I've managed to rack up 65k miles on btw. Around 36k miles, I had the Malone Tune upgrades done; the stage 2 ECU one and the DSG computer tune also. No problems at all; I get 47 maybe on highway trips averaging 80mph (Texas baby). And I have a heavy foot.
Who's watching this in 2021 and laughing their azz off because VW AG singularly screwed the diesel vehicle industry in US. It also cost them $35 billion.
The VW is over rated! The DSG has high maintenace and the torque Converter in the Cruze will last longer and cheaper to fix! I drove both and the Cruze has less turbo lag and you get a lot for the money with the rebates.You can get a Value TDI Jetta that is stripped.They are comparing fair trims in real world. If you go to both dealer Chevy and VW and compare prices,go see the Service techs and find out how much it cost to maintain each of them! The Cruze will me cheaper!
You are wrong the DSG transmission is quite robust and is built to last. I curently own a 2013 Jetta TDI I love the DSG transmission no transmission gives faster or smoother shifts than a DSG that's a FACT. As for real world driving comparison? I test drove the Cruze and looked at the layout did not like it at all. Only reason I did was I wanted a Diesel other than that I would have never looked at a American car maybe a truck but a car? never. The Jetta is abetter car than the Cruze hands down. Regarding ride quality most german cars tend to have a firmer suspension setup but they are better than American or Japanese cars over the long run.
How many miles? You do know, You have to service the transmission OIL every 30K at about 350 each time unless you change it yourself! Don't get me wrong, the Jetta was fun to drive and transmission felt solid with 10 miles on it,,but at 160K,will it still be shifting-The Cruze will be cheaper to maintain if the service is done at the dealer!
You are absolutely the most stupidest person on the face of earth the POS Cruze doesn't even come in a manual and the Epa rigid this to make it look like the shitbox cruze did better I swear you are the dirt I walk on Volkswagen has been doing small diesels since day 1 the cruze is shit like every other gm product!!
the engine is OPEL, the car Suzuki, so ...... That is why its one of the better "American" crap out there. However, they can put whatever more flashy features inside, but that does not make the car better. Camera and blind spot cowshit. The technology - engine, fuel consumption and longevity is on the german side. You can install parking sensors for 300$, so.... VW forever.
albboy96 As Jeremy Clarkson says in one one of his movie about the american cars, they are cheap to buy, because they are made of melted down action men, hahahhaha
***** The only thing Suzuki had to do with the Cruze was they had previously used the name before. Completely different car. The cruze was designed by Daewoo, such as the Aveo and the Chevy optra/Suzuki forenza twins. If you actually google Daewoo Lacetti, you will see the same car. This is straight from the Cruze wiki page: Underpinned by the front-wheel drive GM Delta II platform, GM has confirmed the Cruze development program occurred under a global design and engineering team.[26] GM Daewoo in South Korea played a leading role in the design and engineering of the Cruze, along with GM's German-based Opel division. Thats why I would never buy one. Anything touched by Daewoo is SHIT.
The problem with the VW brakes is only because it is a vehicle used for alot of tests. I never knew VW to have bad brakes. I have an older Jetta and I never had any problems with the brakes. That one must have been through a ton of harsh city start and stop driving and got a slight warp in one or more brake discs. To be fair though any car can have warped brakes. He did say that it is a press vehicle.
@@alexnutcasio936 I have a 2013 TDI Jetta that isn't junked and still looks and drives like new. Chevy hasn't made good cars in decades. I have 2008 Silverado btw.
VW is massive overrated and overhyped like mostly any German car maker. The 2.0 Diesel of the Cruze is also German made by the way, and it won all the reliable tests against the VW 2.0 over here in Germany.
The funny thing is that the interior of that Jetta is FUCKING CHEAP HARD PLASTICS. I had 1 until last year ( accident ) and I was very disappointed in the interior and how the car felt. Compared to the MK4 I had in the past, it felt like a Corolla. A CARDBOARD BOX!!!. Those MK6 Jetta are really shit for the body they made. Very cheap and cardboard box feeling. The 2014 Cruze Diesel has a much more loaded interior and much more "solid" feeling. But hey, it's GM, so it has to be bashed. Yes, I hate GM and their mentality, but their cars aren't so bad as they are portrayed.
Agreed. I have a 2015 Golf TDI. I average about 36 in the city and about 51 on the highway. It's pretty obvious VW's do a lot better than the EPA estimates.
I don't know what Highway this guy was driving on, but my Diesel Cruze gets an average of 45 mpg on the Highway at around 70-75mph. I drive 35 miles to and from work 5 days a week. 40.5 combined economy right now. If I didn't drive like an ass it would be higher.
+46 mpg out of my '13 Passat TDI on a 700 mile trip running 78mph most of the way. All that with way more room and comfort than either of these cars. Stick that in your diesel Cruze.
I don't get America. The world's greatest country yet so backward. All BMWs and Audi's are diesel here. One of the best one I think is the Audi A6 biTDi. 3.0 diesel twin-turbo 326BHP. 0-60 in 4.7 seconds and 44 MPG. Yet here you are just figuring this shit out now? What are your engineers doing over there. It's so funny to see Americans say things like diesel used to be a dirty fuel and diesel is slow, diesel is now turbo charged. We figured out 15 years ago in Europe that diesel can be fast as well as efficient. I can't understand this country
+VolvoXC90TV Diesel is not for everyone, most people don't drive on the highway to clear the DPF all the time, It also costs more than the petrol equivalent and costs more in maintenance.
Super_Slav last I checked only thing cost more are parts, they last longer and are cheaper in the long term especially if you work on them yourself. The dpf is only useful for smog inspection, if u have no such inspection it comes off
Mark Blake Jr. Well, if the DPF is blocked the car wont run properly, and it cost's anywhere from $3000 to $8000 and last around 80,000km to 100,000km, so all that money saved on fuel is wasted on DPF's. And if you drive in the city allot, the DPF can last as little as 10,000km and warranty does not cover it because it is a wearable item. If you drive on the highway all the time, which diesel cars with DPF were designed for then it will be fine, but there is no chance I am going to get one because I hardly ever drive on the highway and the DPF regen will not start.
You're right about older Jetta. MK6 was the worst piece of cardboard box I've ever had. Felt like a carboard shit box corolla or Nissan versa. And don't mention the cheap interior hard plastics on every single paneling.
Danny Haha in Canada we have a site called kijiji I live on that site! It is basically a less sketchy version of craigslist. That being said the guy was asking $900 and I had to put $500 parts + labor into it to be road worthy. In total it was $1050 on the road (201,000 km). Still an awesome deal!
The Jetta comes with the DSG transmission with the 2.0T and TDI. The 2.5 still has a 6 speed just not the DSG but the Tiptronic which is still a good transmission. It will be a good one as long as you change the fluid once in a while. You really should change the ATF in any car every so often. I know too many people that don't and you know what? They changed two or three transmissions maybe more in the same car. These are people who have "beater" cars with ugly neglected paint and they are not worth much anymore these days just from age alone.
Sounds like Cruize ran regen during a test drive. Test is lame because you never know when one starts in the middle of regen or regen turns on during...
IDK how the EPA only says 42 mpg highway for the jetta, my dad has a golf tdi that said at the dealer 45 mpg highway but he regularly gets 55 mpg on his half city half highway commute to work.
+HappyListener50 the 2015 diesels have urea injection which reduces emissions, I wish they did it before but they obviously have a solution that will be placed on all newer TDI models. Also VW has a been a very reliable company for years before, and I personally don't drive a TDI model so it doesn't matter anyways.
At 2:30 you mention that "Luke has an easier time keeping up with traffic in that Cruze". That comment was laughable. What was traffic cruising at...120 MPH? And if you wanted to compare "best" fuel numbers, the 6 speed in the VW gets better mileage on the highway.
I have the 2013 cruze 1.4 turbo, i can get the same gas mileage as the cruze diesel so what is the point besides getting around 15 more hp? and higher fuel cost
+Steven Gilbert Have you test driven the Chevy Cruze diesel yet? I bet if you had, you wouldn't have asked that question. And yes, the diesel gets considerably more than just 39 MPG. Don't knock it till you try it.
Actually this test is somewhat misleading the JETTA TDI gives better MPG than the Chevy Cruz the CRUZ has a bigger fuel tank. The Cruz Engine is NOT American so breathe easy. I believe the Diesel in the Cruz is from VauxHall in Germany but their Diesel engines are not as refined as a VW engine. The Jetta TDI is easily or by far the better car along with a more refined engine and drive train.
I love my '14 Jetta TDI - in white also. I rented the Cruze diesel and TDI for a weekend road trip. TDI was the winner. Gave me almost 80 more MPG than the Cruze.
eddjmemg G You're wrong eddjmemg G. Chevrolet offers 2-years/24,000 miles of maintenance (oil change, tire rotation, and 27-point inspection.) Additionally, they beat VW's drivetrain warranty at 5-years/100,000 miles.
I get 64.2 mpg at 55 mph driving my Chevy Cruze Diesel. Are there any VW Jetta owners that can beat that mileage? Send a picture of your 25 or 50 mileage average, not your instant mpg. I dare you. Keep in mind I get this kind of mileage in an automatic transmission, without the benefit of a manual transmission to hypermile with. It would be nice to talk to somebody that actually knows what the VW Jetta can do, instead of reading ridiculous and ignorant comments from children who don't even drive the car. I can say with authority that the Chevy Cruze diesels are a damn good car and don't disappoint in the fuel mileage category.
+jonathan ingerson Check out my profile for pictures of my 25 Mile fuel average. I haven't seen anyone that can beat it. Where are all the trolls now???
Same with my Chevy cruze and I've heard the same from many other Chevy cruze owners so huh plus I test drove VW'S they suck cornering compared to a cruze.
This video is crap. Testing these two cars on a 30mile test trip is like testing a marathon runner on a mile run. 30miles is nothing for these cars. I own the 14 Cruze diesel and NEVER get below 39mpg on the highway. On the way to Indy once, i reset the mpg calculator and went 30mi at 80mph and got 42mpg. I live in IL and drive the speed limit and consistently get 50+mpg highway at 65mph. They are way too critical of the steering, tires, and traction. Steering is very precise, never once have I squealed the tires(even when i try to), and the tires get good traction in even in thick Illinois snow. My buddy drives a '12 Jetta Wagon TDI and after driving my cruze a few times said he would sell his jetta wagon for a cruze diesel if it were only offered in a wagon.
I just don't see the advantage of getting a few extra MPG over the gas version when you have to pay a $5,000 premium for the diesel version AND pay more per gallon at the pump. Plus you have the added maintenance of urea refills every 10k miles.
***** Still, Alex. CNET did the math and you'd have to own the car for 100yrs for the better MPG to be worth the extra cost of diesel fuel and higher sticker price. Think about it, if your diesel avgs 10 MPG better than the gas version, and it costs you $.50/gl more for diesel at the pump, you're literally saving 1 penny per mile to drive the diesel. That's not even figuring in the extra cost to buy the diesel engine option which is several thousand dollars.
palebeachbum you don't understand torque, and it's not just about figures either. using the Rawtek kit i get 62 MPG, and 280 ftlbs of torque to the ground in my jetta, plus we have the option of burning bio-diesel or waste cooking oil.
Evan Watty I'm not sure what torque has to do with what I had said. I do understand torque though. I know you have a lot more with a turbocharged engine and I miss mine. I'll take high torque and low HP over high HP and low torque any day. Listen up Honda!
I wish the Chevy could be bought as a BASE model and get the diesel. But you can't Don't understand that at all. If you like the Cruze. Get the Gas ECO model .. $20K and gets 42MPG or so. The 38MPG they got is terrible. I got 37MPG in my wifes Sonata... and she paid less for the car, and pays less for the fuel. Gas is $2.40 a gal... Diesel is $3.50. You will NEVER break even with the cruze. You might with the VW, because you can order a TDI with lots of other trim levels...
all of you talking about EPA MPGs. It is very simple. The VW is an import and the Chevy is BORN IN THE USA. Funny thing happened at the same time the Gov't Bailout of GM. The EPA Est.MPG for VW dropped from 47mpg hwy to 42 mpgs. Very simple.
The Chevrolet Cruze was designed and engineered in South Korea. Its orignal form is called a Daewoo Lacetti Premier. This Daewoo was rebadged as a Chevy. Technically its a Daewoo. Just sayin'
MrTimbor Actually based on the "GM Global Platform" like the Daewoo and numerous Opels and south american Chevrolets, designed by GM Germany and the first model based on it was the Opel Astra.
Volkswagen did not have the urea injection system, and look where they are now. My diesel cruze will get less fuel economy only when it is doing a regen. this is where the fuel injectors intentionally send fuel out the exhaust stroke to burn off the soot that is filtered out inside the diesel particulate filter. This regeneration is time or differential pressure initiated. In short, my fuel economy will go from mid 50's to mid 30's for about 15 mins until the regeneration is complete. this is an emission requirement necessitated by the particulate filter. In case you missed it. I easily get mid 50's MPG under normal highway driving conditions. My best fuel economy score for a 25 mile average is 62.8 MPG. VW cannot beat that fuel economy. suck it vw.
jonathan ingerson You are proud of 150 hp and 320 N/m from 2 liter diesel? VW had 150 hp and 320N/m back in 2001 from 1.9 liters... You are proud of your opel engine ? You watched a test between Opel astra 2.0 liters 2 turbos more torque and power then the Golf 7 GTD whit single turbo? I will tell you the result astra had its ass handed to it in every category that can be measured and the tester said the TDI just feels more powerful everywhere.
I would run for the hills if anybody tried to sell me a cruise. They went bankrupt for a reason . Wait for a year or too when the cruise starts to fall apart from . Stay the hell away from GM period
My neighbor has a Cruze Diesel 2014 with almost 100K miles on it. Still no problems. Plenty of older cruzes on the road and there hasn't been any major issue with it in North America. I had a 2013 Jetta until recently, and that one was falling apart inside. VERY CHEAP plastics and knobs. It seems that many people just regurgitate shit they know nothing about.
I'll stick with the manufacturer who has been putting diesel engines in their cars since the 80's
Too. Bad Volkswagen cheated on their emissions tests, and their diesels needed to be recalled in the USA. I had my 2014 since 2013, and it is awesome!
You can find many of the VW's parked in huge fields till they figure out what to do with them
Volkswagen TDI till I die. Currently rolling a 2011 Jetta Sportwagon TDI. Brilliant!
82,000mi 33 to 35 MPG combination driving average.
i drive a 4door golf TDI and Im getting over 47mpg on the highway and getting 38mpg in the city so I'm averaging around 42mpg. in the summer i averaging 44mpg thats crazy and my Golf has all soft touch materials on the inside feels like Im driving and Audi, plus the handling is so awesome even though the Golf tdi is front wheel drive actually it feels like all wheel drive car have too say VW did a really good job on these TDI's
Which one will last longer and is cheaper to maintain!
I would choose the VW Golf 5 door TDI 6 speed manual with sunroof & navigation, all weather floor mats & splash guards for $27,350.00 than either the more expensive Jetta or Cruze.
I just jammed from LA to SF in my Jetta TDI wagon averaging a real 78mph with stops and 36mpg (with a 4-bike rack, empty, on top). The Jetta handles well and the engine and gearing are awesome on the highway. I love this car!
40mpg mixed diving? I'm going to buy a vw next with a manual.
+ray britton Good on you.
jonathan ingerson haha i think im going to wait a bit,,, it might go down a bit in price lol
***** ok
+ray britton i have a 2015 jetta TDI i average 46mpg city and highway with the auto DSG i drive alot from Ohio to NJ and back i get roughly 720 miles to a single tank im actually half way back through PA before filling up and it only has a 14 gallon tank, yes VW did lie but in all honesty who cares, its still a great car.
I see that was a bad choice 3 years later they lied about their emissions I bet you they're lying about the mpg you're getting on the dash
This is the 1st ever review of those 2 i see the Jetta getting better fuel economy, every other the Cruze won. Like always its better to check multiple reviews before making a choice.
Oh and btw, the Cruze has a proper emission system on it.
Have to disagree with the Cruze highway mileage. Either he drove it hard or didn't reset the info center. I have a 2014 Cruze diesel that averages 52mpgs on interstate. I think these guys are bias to the VW. You can go to any diesel cruze thread forums and see the same results for highway MPGs. I have gotten 800 miles from 1 tank of fuel and still had a 1/4 tank left.
yea I don't think he reset the info gauge
I’ve heard manual VW diesel Jettas can get 55 miles to the gallon, but you have to drive it the way VW doesn’t like you to drive it
No way that dog cart Chevy got 50 MPG plus unless you're driving like my old grandma.
I'm going on Jetta number 4 since 2008 and will never buy another car, my in-laws are the same way they are on their 4th TDI. I am getting my first TDI this weekend. Jetta is really comfy and a better reputation.
Really it isnt it crashes wrost and is very dated and boring
I own a TDi jetta,and brakes on it is totally fine. VW always place less fuel economy on paper then it usually gets, i had top avg of 47.4 mpg. And this car is defiantly
more fun to drive then Cruze. with DSG transmission and it's sports gear)
these are the exact cars I'm looking into purchasing and this really opened my eyes thanks for the great video
First I would like to point out that those safety features are available on the jetta. I just looked at a 2015 jetta tdi 6 speed manual with the lighting package and it's all there. active cruise, cornering lights, ect
I just sold a 2005 beetle with 5 speed manual tdi. 38-45mpg always. VW TDI's really hold thier value well over time and run forever if you do the maintenance. 220000 miles and it still ran and drove like new. I'm ot a chevy hater. I just can't think of any cars they've made recently that I'd want to spend any money on ten years later.
Yeah but the one they tested is a 2013
look real world here. im on my 2nd vw jetta diesel. I have a bone stock 2011 leather interior. this weekend I drove 1000 to iowa and back in 72 hours. I drove it like I stole it. its the automatic version and I averaged 45.1 mpg. I had to go up and down mtns in west virginia pa and md. in one strech near morgantown I had it on cruise control at 73mph in a 70. some woman in a beater durango just had to pass me going up the mtn. 2 miles later she blew it up...penny for penny I have never had nicer car for the money and I have owned maybe 50 cars. when I filled up it said 600 miles to empty...keep your batteries.
For the record, I got 1005 kms (624 miles) on 52.062 liters (13.7 US Gal) which works out to 45.5 MPG (US).
This was last month while it was still winter at almost all highway driving (some city driving) at 65 MPH (cruise control set). I can see getting almost 50 MPG on summer tires and in warmer weather.
VW all day.
fuck u chervrolet! LOVE VW!
DobleP I own 3 VWs and still in love
Connor Mohan My uncle has owned a VW shop for 35 years.
If you refer to MK5 and MK4, then yes, Fuck the Cruze. But the MK6 VW is SHIT. The cruze is built more solid and more comfortable. I had a 2013 VW TDI until recently ( accident ) and I WAS DISSAPOINTED. Shitty hard plastics, still using timing belts and the body feels like a tin can and light as a feather compared to the previous MK5 that felt like a solid tank. They really cheaped out. I always ( and still do ) liked VWs, but if I'm gonna buy a German car, I WANT A GERMAN CAR. Not a fucking "feel like" Corolla.
Fuck both. Depends what you're referring to. The Jetta interior is VERY CHEAP. ( at least from 2011 to 2013 ). The cruze has better interior and feels more comfortable as the car is a bit heavier and less shitty plastics inside. When it comes to handling and the driving itself, especially on the highway. Fuck the Chevy for sure. But the 2017 is much better. I just bought one after getting involved in an accident with my Jetta 2013 and the Cruze ain't bad at all. Much better than the previous generation. But VWs are not what they used to be. I had a MK4 TDI and that bitch was good. I shouldn't have never sold it. Much better than MK6 and MK7. MK5 is not bad either.
During my last trip to Florida in my 2014 Cruze diesel, I averaged 53 mpg for 2 hours @ 73 mph on flat Florida highways. I believe that the testers used the mileage from the cars drivers information center. They should have driven the cars at least 100 miles to get an accurate reading of highway mileage. After being reset, the cruze mileage in the dic continues to climb until about 75 miles.15 miles is not enough to get true mileage from the dic.
My 2010 Camry non hybrid gets close to that.I owned a Cruze Diesel,it had a lot of emission problems,was a pos.
that was funny, trying to find the ignition with the key and stopping the music, then oh its push button...and the music resumes. Nice editing :)
I've learned after 2 years of owning my 12 golf tdi, that it does have good mpg's but it varies. If the temp is below 30 degrees than it can barley get to 40 mpg and as soon as it gets above 40 deg. the mpg's get better. Overall i feel this car is more of a highway car and doesn't get good city milage, and as soon as you start to idle you see your mpg's drop fast.
duh they'll drop fast, you're stopped, and still burning fuel.
duh but gas cars don't drop as fast as diesel.
Let's see - the Cruze is noisier, has vague handling, is less fuel efficient and more expensive. I'll take the Jetta, thank you very much.
+chrwl007 lol the Cruze was shown to get dramatically better fuel mileage!
+Keean Wiles You mean like at 6:42 where the Jetta gets 5 MPG more?
+chrwl007 lol look it up the Cruze destroys the Jetta by over a hundred miles lol
*****
Well of course it would - the tank is 5 litres bigger, but I doubt it would have more than 60 miles on the Jetta from full to empty.
+snibbdibb the Jetta is fugly af so bland and cheap my mom has one and she hates it so much she drives her 09 Jetta more the new Jetta is boring
JETTA
The price difference is unbelievable! Also, the fuel numbers are really out of touch with reality; the VW has better fuel economy in the city and highway. Overall, this isn't even close; the VW is by far the better car. I feel bad for anyone who buys the Cruze over the VW based on the advertised fuel economy numbers without realizing that the VW is actually more efficient in reality.
chevy should give you the manual transmission option .making me go for a jetta
Hearing the hwy fuel mileage on the Cruze makes me think it may have done a regen, especially if they were driving in the 60 mph range. I drive a newer diesel truck and it goes from 19 ish mpg to 11 when it does a regen on the freeway and you don’t even know it’s doing it. Just a thought.
True, on the Cruze, the fuel mileage almost goes to half during regen. There’s an aftermarket gauge for that, but the Cruze doesn’t come with one, so you often don’t know.
When Honda gets their own diesels approved these cars will drop off the planet.
A Honda Civic with a diesel = only car you'll ever need to buy
Then why does my Camry have over 200k miles?
What's with that stupid Civic. It's a fucking cop magnet. Honda targets 20 year olds. You drive on the highway in a Civic or you're riding in an Audi, guess who will the cops target first???
The Chevy gets worse gas mileage, it is more expensive, and gives no manual transmission option.. The Cruze also has a small backseat, as opposed to the Jetta which has a comfortable back seat. We averaged 49.8 in our 2012 Jetta TDI running roughly 80 mph down to Florida with 5 people and luggage. Every GM vehicle I have ever owned has gotten less than the EPA estimates said. My Jetta is averaging over the highway estimates. The Cruze should cost less than the Jetta..
it gets terrible gas mileage bc its a diesel
Does the Jetta have blind spot monitoring, rear cross traffic alert, etc?
Torque converter automatics are okay. Only if it’s like that 8 speed ZF auto on BMW’s, they have lightning fast shifts with great economy numbers for a torque converter automatic
I like the opel, tried and test as most use these vehicles as cabbies in Europe.
I owned a 2013 Cruze (gas ) 1.4 Turbo for 2 years and loved it. Not sure what they were talking about with handling feels inprecise because that was one thing I loved about my Cruze. They are also wrong about the seats. While comfortable on short stints they hurt on long trips. I was excited to have a Jetta Rental 2 weeks ago on a trip. I was not impressed at all with it though. The radio sucked, brakes felt very non-linear, engine was weak and needed to be floored to get the trans to downshift enough to let it use the high rpms and the trans shifted like a 10 yo car. Also keep in mind people DSG trans' s like the Volkswagen's have a high failure rate and are extremely expensive to fix.
I have never had any trouble with my brakes on my 2011 Jetta or the Passat 2013!!! I get over 50 MPG on most trips. Average 48 most of the time. I have not paid anything on either of my VWs to date as they are still on warranty.
did you ever get any electrical problems with them?? (the jetta)
15 miles test range? You do realize that cruze was in Regen? It goes in regent at least about ones a tank, ones in regent milage will be less for the duration of the regen. When these tested head to head on a full tank, cruze hands down kills Jetta on MPG by like 4+ MPG
Jetta has a full size spare tire, cruze doesnt come with anything but an air compressor, no tire.
I've owned the Cruze and had several emissions problems with it. I own a Jetta Sportwagen now and I'm very pleased with it.
Also want to look at safety & crash test results.
Drive the European Jetta and ditch the US,O bet Euro Jetta/Golf is simply worlds best car
I like VWs but don't kid yourself, VWs have their weaknesses and the Chevy cruze diesel IS A EUROPEAN ENGINE as well. The car was designed in South Korea with a European made engine, so you're obviously BRAND biased, but the Cruze diesel 2017 uses Timing chains while VWs still use belts. GO figure.
How reliable are either cars? The MPG is great. But long-term, I wonder if they'll break down.
I used to own a mk4 VW golf TDI (2001 year). Sold it at 280k miles and still ran great. I was getting close to 45mpg average with my 5 speed transmission. Mainly thanks to it's lack of emission's equipment
TheCompyshop Are the TDIs better now in terms of gas mileage (compared to your 2001)?
Russell Tanner I'd say they remained around the same. Though the newer engines have a ton more power than the old ones. Volkswagen diesels have always since the dawn of time been under rated by the EPA estimates. My friend's newer TDI gets 49mpg. Even though the EPA says on the highway it gets 42 max. He's averaging 40's in the city
Keep in mind too that the vw is going to cost an arm and a leg for repairs compared to a chevy.
Had a bunch of them in the past. They do cost an arm and leg to repair.
If your favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla, the VW is for you.
i love vanilla but im dont really like the vw.,
The Cruze is much worse. Handling is spongy and soft, diesel clatter is louder than a mk4 Jetta, interior quality is appauling, doesn't get the mpg of the Jetta, doesn't have the room of the Jetta, and it will be less reliable since its made in Detroit and has a diesel by Opel. Jetta wins.
I have to say I LOL'd at the keyless ignition. Why isn't the key better hidden if the owner will rarely use it anyway?
GM did it right. No tricks, no lies.
+Jeff Morse Sure. "Transport & Environment says ICCT tests show clear discrepancies
between laboratory emissions and real-world performance for several
automakers including BMW, Mercedes-Benz and General Motors’ Opel unit.
It argued that these manufacturers might also employ similar kinds of
software in Europe that VW has allegedly admitted to using in the U.S."
www.autonews.com/article/20150922/OEM06/150929954/diesel-test-report-cites-emissions-gaps-at-other-automakers
And the Cruze was clearly said to get 39mpg highway vs the 46mpg that the EPA claimed.
I owned one,emissions nightmare,they had to pull the head to clean the carbon.Water pump failed,def heater failed,multiple sensors failed.Check the Cruze Diesel forums and see what a nightmare they are.
My mistake the Chevy Cruze Diesel engine is from Opel out of Germany it is curently in a car called the Opel Astra.
Jetta is so much better. Looks cool and DSG is superior transmision. The car goes very fast. No contest.
Volkswagen's 2.0 TDI is simply the best engine in the world if you combine MPG and driving feel - If you want to go quick, it'll go quick, if you want to save fuel, it'll save tons of fuel. Amazing.
(much better than a shitty boring prius)
Jetta is better. American companies always trying to exaggerate their mpg numbers. Sad with more power and money spent it still can't beat vw in mpg, speed, and quality.
VW doesn't have a good reputation for reliability. It is very disappointing however that the Chevy Cruze Diesel is so far below it's EPA rating on the highway! I would be supremely pissed off if I was 7 mpg off....but I don't know....15 miles? That doesn't seem like a whole lot of highway driving. I have seen other reviews that have been way off the estimated highway numbers though
Monsieur Ouya Doesn't have a good reputation for reliability?! Dafuq you on about?
Monsieur Ouya
And GM has a good reputation for reliability? Why would such a great car manufacturer need a bail-out then?
I don't even care if you say they have a bad reputation for reliability. That's not what the three 18 year old VWs are showing outside of my house.
SlipknotMaggot0526
VW doesn't have a bad reputation for reliability, in fact it's quite the opposite. It's just some kind nationalism that makes some Americans badmouth foreign car-makers.
Coming from someone who has extensive experience driving both, I completely disagree on the noise comparison. Not only is the Cruze quieter on the highway, but it's suspension doesn't crash over bumps like the veedub. Jetta kills it on interior legroom but materials are much better in the Cruze. I'd take the Cruze for the more solid feeling and quality materials. Sad that VW had to cheapen things after the previous gen. Those had great materials.
it is still a chevy
they have a lousy rep at making small cars
be it their own or german , or asian
besides athe prizm , a corolla , and matbe a metro , which would run forever , but kill you in harshness
The 2015 Jetta now has most of the safety feature
+Chris McManus You won't find the front wheel of a chevy in the seat with you after a collision like you will with vw.
+jonathan ingerson No, you'll find the Chevy's front wheen in the back seat
chrwl007 only if the Chevy has a front end collision with a vw, will you see the Chevy front tire in the vw backseat.
jonathan ingerson Can't believe you love a Daewoo so much. German cars are safer than "American" cars.
keep believing the hype that volkwagen somehow better than chevy.
I have never heard of a TDI getting only 42 on the HWY. Every one I have come into contact with has been pushing 50 easily.
In mixed driving, I average 39. Spring and fall is when I get the best economy. And it's routinely in 46-47 range, for the highway, but then again I always find myself doing 75-80 mph.
Yeah, and if you slowed down to the 65-70 that they do the tests for mpg at you'd be pushing 52-53 i'd bet! But nobody has time to go that slow :P
***** The Jetta gets 3 or 4 less than the Passat due to different exhaust purification mechanisms (the Jetta uses fuel to burn off the other fuel... yeah). Also they get a lot as they break in, but I'd think that'd be the same with a Cruze diesel too.
I have a 2014 Passat TDI that I've managed to rack up 65k miles on btw. Around 36k miles, I had the Malone Tune upgrades done; the stage 2 ECU one and the DSG computer tune also. No problems at all; I get 47 maybe on highway trips averaging 80mph (Texas baby). And I have a heavy foot.
My tdi gets 29-38ish avg even highway
What is wrong
Who's watching this in 2021 and laughing their azz off because VW AG singularly screwed the diesel vehicle industry in US. It also cost them $35 billion.
Watching in 2022 and still laughing at VW and how they screwed an entire diesel industry, particularly for passenger cars.
TDI Jetta's are now available in a "value edition" starting at 21k
The VW is over rated! The DSG has high maintenace and the torque Converter in the Cruze will last longer and cheaper to fix! I drove both and the Cruze has less turbo lag and you get a lot for the money with the rebates.You can get a Value TDI Jetta that is stripped.They are comparing fair trims in real world. If you go to both dealer Chevy and VW and compare prices,go see the Service techs and find out how much it cost to maintain each of them! The Cruze will me cheaper!
You are wrong the DSG transmission is quite robust and is built to last. I curently own a 2013 Jetta TDI I love the DSG transmission no transmission gives faster or smoother shifts than a DSG that's a FACT. As for real world driving comparison? I test drove the Cruze and looked at the layout did not like it at all. Only reason I did was I wanted a Diesel other than that I would have never looked at a American car maybe a truck but a car? never. The Jetta is abetter car than the Cruze hands down. Regarding ride quality most german cars tend to have a firmer suspension setup but they are better than American or Japanese cars over the long run.
How many miles? You do know, You have to service the transmission OIL every 30K at about 350 each time unless you change it yourself! Don't get me wrong, the Jetta was fun to drive and transmission felt solid with 10 miles on it,,but at 160K,will it still be shifting-The Cruze will be cheaper to maintain if the service is done at the dealer!
You are absolutely the most stupidest person on the face of earth the POS Cruze doesn't even come in a manual and the Epa rigid this to make it look like the shitbox cruze did better I swear you are the dirt I walk on Volkswagen has been doing small diesels since day 1 the cruze is shit like every other gm product!!
MrThat70svan Americans don't belong making small diesels because America's don't like small engines they like big and slow ones you're just a dumbass.
+That one F-150. Spoken like a true Ford owner.
I have a new 2014 and I have the breaking issue. Not a deal breaker but can be annoying in stop and go situations.
imo i would never trust americans to make a diesel powered sedan
the engine is OPEL, the car Suzuki, so ...... That is why its one of the better "American" crap out there. However, they can put whatever more flashy features inside, but that does not make the car better. Camera and blind spot cowshit. The technology - engine, fuel consumption and longevity is on the german side. You can install parking sensors for 300$, so.... VW forever.
gradimir12 the only thing that americans can be the germans in is price... or maybe thats just cuz american cars are built of shit
albboy96 As Jeremy Clarkson says in one one of his movie about the american cars, they are cheap to buy, because they are made of melted down action men, hahahhaha
gradimir12 lmaooo
***** The only thing Suzuki had to do with the Cruze was they had previously used the name before. Completely different car. The cruze was designed by Daewoo, such as the Aveo and the Chevy optra/Suzuki forenza twins. If you actually google Daewoo Lacetti, you will see the same car. This is straight from the Cruze wiki page: Underpinned by the front-wheel drive GM Delta II platform, GM has confirmed the Cruze development program occurred under a global design and engineering team.[26] GM Daewoo in South Korea played a leading role in the design and engineering of the Cruze, along with GM's German-based Opel division. Thats why I would never buy one. Anything touched by Daewoo is SHIT.
The problem with the VW brakes is only because it is a vehicle used for alot of tests. I never knew VW to have bad brakes. I have an older Jetta and I never had any problems with the brakes. That one must have been through a ton of harsh city start and stop driving and got a slight warp in one or more brake discs. To be fair though any car can have warped brakes. He did say that it is a press vehicle.
I think it's ridiculous that gm decided not to have a manual transmission option just because its a diesel. I'm really disappointed in that.
diesel tuners burn out the manual clutch
I bet that Cruze is sitting in a junyard and the VW is still rockin, recall or not.
I bet you're wrong since most TDi were junked. Very few on road anymore.
@@alexnutcasio936 actually you'd be
WRONG
@@alexnutcasio936 I have a 2013 TDI Jetta that isn't junked and still looks and drives like new. Chevy hasn't made good cars in decades. I have 2008 Silverado btw.
His lisp almost made this unwatchable
The Cruze might be good but I just don't really like the half circle sort of look of the cabin from the side.
Please tell me they didn't use the onboard computer to determine miles per gallon.
Public school kids can't divide distance by fuel used man, you learn that kind of techno stuff in college.
VW is massive overrated and overhyped like mostly any German car maker. The 2.0 Diesel of the Cruze is also German made by the way, and it won all the reliable tests against the VW 2.0 over here in Germany.
The funny thing is that the interior of that Jetta is FUCKING CHEAP HARD PLASTICS. I had 1 until last year ( accident ) and I was very disappointed in the interior and how the car felt. Compared to the MK4 I had in the past, it felt like a Corolla. A CARDBOARD BOX!!!. Those MK6 Jetta are really shit for the body they made. Very cheap and cardboard box feeling. The 2014 Cruze Diesel has a much more loaded interior and much more "solid" feeling. But hey, it's GM, so it has to be bashed. Yes, I hate GM and their mentality, but their cars aren't so bad as they are portrayed.
I can't speak to the cruze but I have seen 52 mpg average in a TDI over a 300 mile highway trip.
do they still make jetta's? i see here never one. or is this only for the US?
my 2012 tdi sportwagen gets over 50mpg regularly. And it has yet to be recalled.
Oh please, German cars are quite dull. Like the people that build & own them.
Agreed. I have a 2015 Golf TDI. I average about 36 in the city and about 51 on the highway. It's pretty obvious VW's do a lot better than the EPA estimates.
I don't know what Highway this guy was driving on, but my Diesel Cruze gets an average of 45 mpg on the Highway at around 70-75mph. I drive 35 miles to and from work 5 days a week. 40.5 combined economy right now. If I didn't drive like an ass it would be higher.
+46 mpg out of my '13 Passat TDI on a 700 mile trip running 78mph most of the way. All that with way more room and comfort than either of these cars. Stick that in your diesel Cruze.
I don't get America. The world's greatest country yet so backward. All BMWs and Audi's are diesel here. One of the best one I think is the Audi A6 biTDi. 3.0 diesel twin-turbo 326BHP. 0-60 in 4.7 seconds and 44 MPG. Yet here you are just figuring this shit out now? What are your engineers doing over there. It's so funny to see Americans say things like diesel used to be a dirty fuel and diesel is slow, diesel is now turbo charged. We figured out 15 years ago in Europe that diesel can be fast as well as efficient. I can't understand this country
we figured this out in semi trucks, however our unelected epa gets to make the rules. they make it harder every year on the automotive industry
+VolvoXC90TV Diesel is not for everyone, most people don't drive on the highway to clear the DPF all the time, It also costs more than the petrol equivalent and costs more in maintenance.
Super_Slav last I checked only thing cost more are parts, they last longer and are cheaper in the long term especially if you work on them yourself. The dpf is only useful for smog inspection, if u have no such inspection it comes off
Mark Blake Jr.
Well, if the DPF is blocked the car wont run properly, and it cost's anywhere from $3000 to $8000 and last around 80,000km to 100,000km, so all that money saved on fuel is wasted on DPF's. And if you drive in the city allot, the DPF can last as little as 10,000km and warranty does not cover it because it is a wearable item. If you drive on the highway all the time, which diesel cars with DPF were designed for then it will be fine, but there is no chance I am going to get one because I hardly ever drive on the highway and the DPF regen will not start.
Super_Slav like I said it comes off
Cruze feels cheap when you shut the door on the Jetta it feels solid the cruze feels cheap
You're right about older Jetta. MK6 was the worst piece of cardboard box I've ever had. Felt like a carboard shit box corolla or Nissan versa. And don't mention the cheap interior hard plastics on every single paneling.
CRUZE VAN EASILY KILL JETTA IN POWER
Yet, the Cruze got a higher Euroncap rating for adult occupant protection, and tied on IIHS
@@akj2387 Do you know how opinions work?
So iOS the Jetta or the Cruze better?
my 97 corolla got 36 mpg and only cost $600. soooooo wheres the big leap in tech on mpg in the past 18 years?
$600??
+Danny paid $550 for my 2000 manual Corolla!
+ReadyToGo lol where do you get these cars from
Danny
Haha in Canada we have a site called kijiji I live on that site! It is basically a less sketchy version of craigslist. That being said the guy was asking $900 and I had to put $500 parts + labor into it to be road worthy. In total it was $1050 on the road (201,000 km). Still an awesome deal!
tony rishkofski Wow, that is an ignorant statement at best.
The Jetta comes with the DSG transmission with the 2.0T and TDI. The 2.5 still has a 6 speed just not the DSG but the Tiptronic which is still a good transmission. It will be a good one as long as you change the fluid once in a while. You really should change the ATF in any car every so often. I know too many people that don't and you know what? They changed two or three transmissions maybe more in the same car. These are people who have "beater" cars with ugly neglected paint and they are not worth much anymore these days just from age alone.
Sounds like Cruize ran regen during a test drive. Test is lame because you never know when one starts in the middle of regen or regen turns on during...
IDK how the EPA only says 42 mpg highway for the jetta, my dad has a golf tdi that said at the dealer 45 mpg highway but he regularly gets 55 mpg on his half city half highway commute to work.
+pianofinger www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-vw-20150919-story.html
***** I know that now hahaha, but at the time of my comment we knew nothing about that.
Now you know, what's your opinion about vw
+Ken Mam I wish they didn't lie to the epa and to the consumers but I'm not going to boycott their products or anything
+HappyListener50 the 2015 diesels have urea injection which reduces emissions, I wish they did it before but they obviously have a solution that will be placed on all newer TDI models. Also VW has a been a very reliable company for years before, and I personally don't drive a TDI model so it doesn't matter anyways.
At 2:30 you mention that "Luke has an easier time keeping up with traffic in that Cruze". That comment was laughable. What was traffic cruising at...120 MPH? And if you wanted to compare "best" fuel numbers, the 6 speed in the VW gets better mileage on the highway.
It might have been which would explain the the wonky Cruze MPG results.
Which wheels are those?? I don't see them offered on the VW site for the Jetta. Even under options...
They're the GLI trim wheels
Ah ok thanks
I have the 2013 cruze 1.4 turbo, i can get the same gas mileage as the cruze diesel so what is the point besides getting around 15 more hp? and higher fuel cost
+Steven Gilbert Have you test driven the Chevy Cruze diesel yet? I bet if you had, you wouldn't have asked that question. And yes, the diesel gets considerably more than just 39 MPG. Don't knock it till you try it.
jonathan ingerson no but I did talk to someone with one. They said they get about 50 mpg. So they did something wrong in this test drive obviously
I wish the Cruze came with a manual gear box.
Jetta FTW.
Actually this test is somewhat misleading the JETTA TDI gives better MPG than the Chevy Cruz the CRUZ has a bigger fuel tank. The Cruz Engine is NOT American so breathe easy. I believe the Diesel in the Cruz is from VauxHall in Germany but their Diesel engines are not as refined as a VW engine. The Jetta TDI is easily or by far the better car along with a more refined engine and drive train.
Holy shit 264lbs torque
+landon dinsdale Not that special, considering Jaguar managed to extract almost 20% more torque out of a 2.2 L diesel (Jaguar XF)
I love my '14 Jetta TDI - in white also. I rented the Cruze diesel and TDI for a weekend road trip. TDI was the winner. Gave me almost 80 more MPG than the Cruze.
The cruze here is a joke bring the European 1.7 diesel it will give you over 747 miles on a full tank
Alberto Medina
in europe there is also 2.0 diesel
Didnt know chevy made a small diesel
GM...someone needs to make rental and government fleet vehicles.
One vote for Jetta
How about a maintainence cost and repair cost comparison?
VW gives a 2 year free maintenance (oil change, tire balance/rotation, etc). Chevy can't afford anything cause they have to pay the unions
eddjmemg G You're wrong eddjmemg G. Chevrolet offers 2-years/24,000 miles of maintenance (oil change, tire rotation, and 27-point inspection.) Additionally, they beat VW's drivetrain warranty at 5-years/100,000 miles.
I get 64.2 mpg at 55 mph driving my Chevy Cruze Diesel. Are there any VW Jetta owners that can beat that mileage? Send a picture of your 25 or 50 mileage average, not your instant mpg. I dare you. Keep in mind I get this kind of mileage in an automatic transmission, without the benefit of a manual transmission to hypermile with. It would be nice to talk to somebody that actually knows what the VW Jetta can do, instead of reading ridiculous and ignorant comments from children who don't even drive the car. I can say with authority that the Chevy Cruze diesels are a damn good car and don't disappoint in the fuel mileage category.
+jonathan ingerson Check out my profile for pictures of my 25 Mile fuel average. I haven't seen anyone that can beat it. Where are all the trolls now???
Same with my Chevy cruze and I've heard the same from many other Chevy cruze owners so huh plus I test drove VW'S they suck cornering compared to a cruze.
This video is crap. Testing these two cars on a 30mile test trip is like testing a marathon runner on a mile run. 30miles is nothing for these cars. I own the 14 Cruze diesel and NEVER get below 39mpg on the highway. On the way to Indy once, i reset the mpg calculator and went 30mi at 80mph and got 42mpg. I live in IL and drive the speed limit and consistently get 50+mpg highway at 65mph. They are way too critical of the steering, tires, and traction. Steering is very precise, never once have I squealed the tires(even when i try to), and the tires get good traction in even in thick Illinois snow. My buddy drives a '12 Jetta Wagon TDI and after driving my cruze a few times said he would sell his jetta wagon for a cruze diesel if it were only offered in a wagon.
I just don't see the advantage of getting a few extra MPG over the gas version when you have to pay a $5,000 premium for the diesel version AND pay more per gallon at the pump. Plus you have the added maintenance of urea refills every 10k miles.
palebeachbum The VW's don't use urea.
***** Still, Alex. CNET did the math and you'd have to own the car for 100yrs for the better MPG to be worth the extra cost of diesel fuel and higher sticker price. Think about it, if your diesel avgs 10 MPG better than the gas version, and it costs you $.50/gl more for diesel at the pump, you're literally saving 1 penny per mile to drive the diesel. That's not even figuring in the extra cost to buy the diesel engine option which is several thousand dollars.
palebeachbum you don't understand torque, and it's not just about figures either. using the Rawtek kit i get 62 MPG, and 280 ftlbs of torque to the ground in my jetta, plus we have the option of burning bio-diesel or waste cooking oil.
Evan Watty I'm not sure what torque has to do with what I had said. I do understand torque though. I know you have a lot more with a turbocharged engine and I miss mine. I'll take high torque and low HP over high HP and low torque any day. Listen up Honda!
I wish the Chevy could be bought as a BASE model and get the diesel. But you can't Don't understand that at all. If you like the Cruze. Get the Gas ECO model .. $20K and gets 42MPG or so.
The 38MPG they got is terrible. I got 37MPG in my wifes Sonata... and she paid less for the car, and pays less for the fuel.
Gas is $2.40 a gal... Diesel is $3.50. You will NEVER break even with the cruze. You might with the VW, because you can order a TDI with lots of other trim levels...
2014 TDI has rear parking assist.
My jetta have 488 171km! ;)
I thought the Jetta was supposed to be compared to the Malibu though? and the Passat is the Impala's compare?
no. Jetta is compact. Passat is midsized.
But isn't the Impala mid-sized? (Sonata, Optima, etc).
Impala is considered chevys full sized. The 2014 are huge.
The Malibu is a midsized. The cruze would be jettas competitors
Then what would compare with the Cruze? Polo?
Spark - MiniCar
Sonic - Compact?
Cruze - Compact
Malibu - Midsize
Impala - Fullsize
all of you talking about EPA MPGs. It is very simple. The VW is an import and the Chevy is BORN IN THE USA. Funny thing happened at the same time the Gov't Bailout of GM. The EPA Est.MPG for VW dropped from 47mpg hwy to 42 mpgs. Very simple.
The Chevrolet Cruze was designed and engineered in South Korea. Its orignal form is called a Daewoo Lacetti Premier. This Daewoo was rebadged as a Chevy. Technically its a Daewoo. Just sayin'
MrTimbor Actually based on the "GM Global Platform" like the Daewoo and numerous Opels and south american Chevrolets, designed by GM Germany and the first model based on it was the Opel Astra.
reiknir good catch! Im actually a fan of the Opel Astra. Idk why GM doesnt bring the nameplate here, I think it would sell
Volkswagen did not have the urea injection system, and look where they are now. My diesel cruze will get less fuel economy only when it is doing a regen. this is where the fuel injectors intentionally send fuel out the exhaust stroke to burn off the soot that is filtered out inside the diesel particulate filter. This regeneration is time or differential pressure initiated. In short, my fuel economy will go from mid 50's to mid 30's for about 15 mins until the regeneration is complete. this is an emission requirement necessitated by the particulate filter. In case you missed it. I easily get mid 50's MPG under normal highway driving conditions. My best fuel economy score for a 25 mile average is 62.8 MPG. VW cannot beat that fuel economy. suck it vw.
+jonathan ingerson pff i can do that in my 20+ years old Vw TDI...
jonathan ingerson You are proud of 150 hp and 320 N/m from 2 liter diesel? VW had 150 hp and 320N/m back in 2001 from 1.9 liters...
You are proud of your opel engine ? You watched a test between Opel astra 2.0 liters 2 turbos more torque and power then the Golf 7 GTD whit single turbo? I will tell you the result astra had its ass handed to it in every category that can be measured and the tester said the TDI just feels more powerful everywhere.
Cruze more expensive less fuel economy cheaper feel! What's to debate?
" heavily modified to meet US standards "... what are they talking about ? like we have tighter standards than Europe ?
the jetta is good!
How about find someone without a distracting lisp that we can understand
Mazda SKYACTIV-D is best.
it is my opinion.
Well I don't care about MPG and the engine. I just hate Cruze's exterior and interior. That's it.
I would run for the hills if anybody tried to sell me a cruise. They went bankrupt for a reason . Wait for a year or too when the cruise starts to fall apart from . Stay the hell away from GM period
My neighbor has a Cruze Diesel 2014 with almost 100K miles on it. Still no problems. Plenty of older cruzes on the road and there hasn't been any major issue with it in North America. I had a 2013 Jetta until recently, and that one was falling apart inside. VERY CHEAP plastics and knobs. It seems that many people just regurgitate shit they know nothing about.
lisps are fixable. just saying.
Cruze Diesel,owned one,most unreliable pos I ever owned.