The Curse of Productivity Ft. Amouranth
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Amouranth joins Dr. K in talking about burnout, dangers of social media, burdening yourself, and letting go. A large part of this discussion comes from the curse of productivity. people feel like they should always be productive which causes burnout. Feeling productive is different from being productive. sometimes relaxing, putting yourself first, and unburdening yourself can lead to increased productivity. Amouranth has many external pressures and channels to min-max, so there is a ton of things to worry about, take care of, and ultimately burnout on.
Check out Amouranth's stream and thank her for coming on the show. / amouranth
00:00:00 Intro
00:05:42 Burnout, feeling trapped
00:14:14 Animal ranch, absent parents
00:20:37 Mind-Body relationship, putting yourself last
00:34:40 Inability to relax, unnecessary burden
00:48:56 "You literally don't know how to take care of yourself"
00:53:44 Pressures of social media, trapped again
01:04:30 Living for today, taking time for yourself
01:20:20 Suppressed emotions
01:37:36 Meditation, closing thoughts
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#Amouranth #Streaming #Burnout
I’m waiting for the day when K asks “can I just think” and someone says no
I think about this every single time haha
That's the stuff of nightmares
Happened already with Anita
@@Spextori Really ? Do you have the video and timestamp ? :)
@@Soupape50 ua-cam.com/video/5R2w5f5BLIg/v-deo.html
I think it's so cool he's been about to talk with people like Allinity, Amouranth, etc. They're people who I personally don't have friendly feelings towards. To see this more humanized, vulnerable side of them gives me a more complete of a picture of who they are. And it's hard to dislike someone when you see, underneath the persona, they're just people too.
I personally, feel the complete opposite. The fact that Kate started this and feels like she can’t stop it when she knows she can. If she stops streaming to get a better job they probably won’t hire bc they don’t “want to tarnish their company’s reputation” by having a pornstar. It’s the ultimate comedy
@@Spamton_A_Spamton oh course you do incel
You just contradicted yourself. Your proposition for her is to stop streaming and become homeless (as you said, almost impossible for her to get other job) because you don't like her content? How about you quit writing both illogical and hateful comments, because I don't like them?
Regardless of your opinion of any of Dr. K's guests, I love how his work reminds us that these huge streamers are just normal people working on their own problems like the rest of us. Hope you're all taking care of your mental health
Yup Dr K's interviews are just reminders that these people are and have always been humans. We knew this before in our hearts but it was covered up by the veil of the internet which makes people think that these streamers are something else, robots with no feels or such. Allowing them to shit on people as much as they want and only when something happens to them do they realise, shit, this guy was also human and then they stop... For a bit, before going back to treating them like robots again then the cycle keeps going. Hopefully people try to break out of that cycle.
@@shinzanagi1149 can't u just like the comment?
@@bamie16 Why is it not okay if he/she expresses their feelings towards it, even if it shares much overlap?
@@CaptainDarkFlex because then I have to read, this makes me very angry. (I’m serious, there is value to terseness, and it needs to be promoted, so I’ll stop typing n
Especially the female streamers that get especially shit on by some of DR K's viewership.
This sort of hits different with the stuff about her husband now
people who never listen to their feeling just break some days
and they dont really know why. Thats why its important to
listen to yourself and not to push your feelings away or ignore
them.
hey that's my coping mechanism tell i explode then i do a restart
It's not that they are consciously pushing them away. It's just part of everyday life. Cait even said in the beginning that her "body does these emotional kind of things, but she doesn't really feel that way inside".
@@1996Pinocchio *She doesn't know that she feels that way inside.
Your body and brain are one in the same, or work in tandem with one another. If you neglect your emotions: (to paraphrase Dr K) it will manifest physically, and you won't know why.
You may naturally suppress emotions dye to light trauma, and you mightn't understand that you are feeling a certain way, but those feelings will ultimately project somewhat on you physically.
I'm aware I'm just reiterating points
@@illestvillain1971 Sure. My point is that people who push them away aren't aware that they do, so they don't feel addressed by that initial comment. (This is all speculation tbh)
I think you need to reword that as, "SOME people who never listen to their feelings just break sometimes..." But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
This helped me see the true side of amouranth. Thank you for bringing her on. Stay strong amouranth.
Lol @ “the true side”
I relate to her when she mentionned that she feels like she lost her personnality. I felt exactly like that when I was at my lowest point at 24. Seven years layer, looking back, I think I was grieving the innocent childlike part of myself that went through life blindly and carelessly.
But once I got through it and got better, I actually prefered the new, more aware version of myself.
I hope she's better now! 💛
Dr K is on point. Shes been doing this for so long and shes been talking herself into this grinding mindset for so long that shes just completly lost. She doesnt even know how else she is supposed to feel. Shes probably making so much money and has so much attention that she thinks that she is doing great when her body and mind are telling her different. But she doesnt accept that and just ignores it and justifies her behaviour through her success. Shes basically scared of proving herself wrong. Theres also no way that just one of these talks is gonna help her. Even another talk wont help her. She has to want it. And the only way thats gonna happen is through a proper therapist. Or she works herself to complete burnout and then she realises it. Either way she has a problem.
Dr.K I would recommend you making more tittles like this instead of "talking to..." because you can have an idea of what the video is about and its a lot more apealing for the people who dont know the streamer. If you use "talking to x" it would be only apealing for the people who like the streamer or has time to watch everything you make.(if something sounds weird is because english is not my native language)
I actually mostly agree with you, but I think maybe the reason he does this is because some guests on his streams go from topic to topic, and therefore making a title that describes everything they talked about would be too long. But for other guests who focus on one issue, it's easier to title the video with more description. Does that make sense?
@@cutiebigbooty @CutieBigBooty yeah it does makes sence, and most of the times it would be imposible to write a title that actually fits everything but for example I wouldnt had watched this video if the tittle was just "talking to Amouranth" even tough I relate a lot with what she is talking about and find it very useful for myself. If he use a broad tittle that dosent fit everything that they talk about but a few key points it would be enough to reach more people and not only get more views but help them too.
A lot of the good videos he mentions the person in the video but also includes a description of the topic.
Ex Self-love with Sweet Anita
I don't like Amouranth. I don't really know anything about her. But I see Dr. K, I click.
@@gj4312 So you don't know anything about her yet you still don't like her? Don't you see anything wrong with that?
This is so interesting considering the outing of her abusive husband pushing her to keep working for him.....Dr k is so insightful!
Wow...the curse of exploitative husband who thinks of her as an 'empire' and abuses her into working protracted hours more like...terrible
Thanks for this chat Dr K. Regardless of what people think about this guest, this was a helpful video. Some good ideas I got from this - scheduling in time for self-care as part of your work day; focusing on small actions rather than relying on discipline to change (e.g. to eat healthy rather than go on a strict diet, practice placing an apple in front of you as you game and take one bite) etc.
That idea you gave about chasing gold at the end of the rainbow - super useful!
It would be fascinating if you interviewed one of the people on her patreon that pays 4 grand a month.
the ppl that sub or donate money to her are actual lowlife degens. you tune into her stream and I dare you to say something bad. she's literally got rows of whiteknights ready to harass you for anything you say that opposes her 'shit takes'
@@Daminionz you seem like a gentleman and a scholar
Maybe they can have another talk sometime soon, perhaps privately, and if she wants to. My heart breaks for her. I can't believe the domestic abuse she's undergone has escaped all of us for SIX YEARS. It can happen to anyone. I hope she gets the support she needs and takes as much time as she needs.
I hope they have another talk sometime soon as well!! It might be more insightful and more accurate than this one was as she was clearly hiding quite a bit still at this point.
Dude! I've been to a few therapists and you are legit next level. Super calming, respectful, asking the right questions at the right time, the meditations were on point,etc etc. Thank you Doc, GG's 🙌
I had a feeling this discussion was incomplete as well, before he actually said it. I'm sure she was avoiding discussing certain aspects of her job. I don't think she can make true progress without discussing those things, and I don't blame her for not talking about it on stream.
3 Dr K > 1 Dr K
Dr. K is doing something awesome for the community. Not everyone will come along, of course, but if some people decide to operate with some more empathy in their lives, that's a big win.
It's really concerning to hear her describe her goals paired with what happened to her dog. If she hasn't fully processed her guilt or has lost faith in herself following that, she may be engaging in self-sabotage/punishment now. She needs an outlet for pursuing what she wants outside of her stream; money is not going to fix this.
she reminded of my mom they have the same traits and Trauma I don't like comparing people but they two peas in a pod. I could tell body language it's kicking her ass but long as she has a support group and her mod family being there she should be fine. I do agree she needs to be with people and socially... she does a great job keeping her composure and having fun... she needed a break or two then can grind again. And as her female moderator I'm urging her to do so.
It's probably obvious but the thing i love about this channel and Dr K.'s streams is that it explores vulnerability and how it makes us human.
Enjoy the process > grind for the goal
I like the grind for the goal
As a goal grinder, I literally thought for a split second that the > was an arrow pointing to the right
@ac ca the thing is, that as long as you have motivation, you can become skilled and creative enough in literally anything you'd want to do, given enough time is spent on it.
You might not see yourself as (insert career) but if you like it, why not? You can test the waters a bit with your little toe before you take a full on dive into a 4-year degree or something.
7 matches in Trials of Osiris?!! Ehat kind of psycho would enjoy that shit
@ac ca No one that didn't beleeve in themselves progressed into a topic enough to develop skill, talent, knowledge or creativity though!
This is 2 years later, but I hope she's still using the tools gained from this constructive in-depth therapy convo. I sure picked up a few things. Thanks for this
I guess it did help her a bit.
She's dumping her pimp now.
Probably she will also stop doing porn for kids now
Little did we kno she was married to an abusive partner, no one saw it.
she was being gaslighted. so her internal monologe is the lies her husband told her about herself.
She probably should've asked dr.k about narc abuse
@@leahflower9924 True, but she didn't know to do it herself. Like, she didn't think of hger husband as abusive at the time.
I've felt exactly like she described, but under drastically different circumstances. But the whole thing about taking care of yourself coming at the cost of others and feeling selfish, that's spot on. It's like building your own personal hell, but then feeling selfish if you stop building it, and then feeling like you can't complain because, hey, you built it on your own free will.
The scariest part is that so much of a persons identity is transjective not just objective. So you start to identify with the hell you built, and when you take the walls down and take time for yourself, it's like you, as a concept, don't really exist anymore.
Walking away from something like that is like literally becoming a different person. There was the you that existed before (ie in this video the smiley, putting on kids parties person), then there's the you during (robotic, overworked), and then the you after has lost so much of the before and during that you have to invent a completely new person, sometimes with a drastically different personality.
God, knowing what we know now. This is heartbreaking
She should visit an ENT at some point. Her worsening breathing issues may be due to her turbinates enlarging, or possibly polyps in her nasal cavity.
I've had 2 surgeries for nasal polyps when I was 20 and again at 27 cuz they grew back, so I was around her age. She definitely needs to see an ENT because its not normal and there is usually a solution. Such a huge quality of life improvement to fix something that you do every 3-5 seconds your entire life.
I'm sorry, but her being a very public person, has she brought this up ever in a public forum? I don't follow her. EDIT: I'm saying this, because she comes across that it affects her so drastically. This isn't digging into her personal life, it's addressing something she brought up here. Before someone makes that argument.
@@PharCry i literally know nothing about this person outside of this stream, so idk
it could also be all that plastic on her chest
if i'm not misinformed, she's had lots of surgeries and hormone therapies
who paused and went straight to comments o/
Dont do the hitler emoji man, wtf
@@bamie16 pretty sure it's just a simple guy raising his hand
It is
I'm not paused but I am waiting a second to let him think!
@@NolifeWarbalt thats what hitler would say
26:40 i felt responsible for my cat dying even though it was cancer nothing i could have done but I was playing video games. I really feel her pain there.
I feel exactly like how he describes Amouranth and the investment bankers. It feels like I've spent my whole life trying to get to this goal, simultaneously ignoring all of the ruin that I've caused in my wake. It's only this week that I've tried to take a break, and now I realize how empty my world is.
Typing this comment on youtube was probably the right step toward fulfillment
@@goodluck2522 Agreed, realizing is a hard first step to do, but certainly a needed one. Good luck on everything you both!
Well just because you are good in capitalism that doesn't mean you have to like it.
Dr.K and his 2 minions surround his prey
Looking back on this interview with everything from the past couple weeks makes everything she talks about make more sense
except, everything she told Dr. K was a lie. An animal shelter is the reason she streams everyday? cmon man.
@@richarddukard8989you guys have to stop having a dicotomic vision of life: I don't see why you should thunk it was a lie, she's talked about it again and I don't see why she would have to come up with something that specific. It looks much more obvious to think that she just had that dream and was justifying her dependency and her consequent obedience towards a person who was exploiting her through the possibility of reaching a higher goal she always had
Honestly, as a woman I feel disgusted everytime a woman comes on and people in the chat starts spamming: "a girl/gril/gurl" or "show us your tits".
Like... what does it make these people feel like they are entitled to write that. EVER?
It is not only disrepectful but also makes me feel unsafe in my everyday life. Because If people write that online- what are they able to do in real life?
It’s honestly disgusting how normalized blatant sexism is normalized in streaming and gaming culture. And doesn’t end there, it’s also the racism, homophobia and transphobia. Hopefully we can get more positive voices (like Dr.K) in these communities because we really need to grow and evolve past these disgusting habits
@@Nate-wf5hk i agree 100%.
One of my closest friends is trans and what she has to experience on a daily basis...
I would never have the strength to go through that shit...
Wow, looking at this now is...
The her creating a monster part with her empire makes me think of Eminem's song "Without Me"... I wonder if thats actually how she feels.
"I've created a monster, 'cause nobody wants to see Marshall no more
They want Shady, I'm chopped liver
Well if you want Shady, then this is what I'll give ya"
heyy eminem fan cool
what its described is a symbol. Basically something people believe in that you created. Like Batman. Most people don't know the creator of the character yet eveyone knows Bruce Wayne.
@@beastmasterbg you and OP nailed it perfectly
when dr. k was like " I'm gonna need to think for a MINUTE" I was like... oh shit
Be careful not to get too stuck on a goal, as a better goal can be discovered. It can be discovered through a dilemma, then trying to get to the essence of the two conflicting goals, and finding a third option that fulfills the spirit of both goals.
That is one benefit of not holding on to a goal too hard but relaxing, that one is more capable of finding a better goal.
This is masterpiece. A work of reality and raw realness true emotions and side effects from specific patterns of mindset, lifestyle, technology overuse, empathy, introvert intelligence, virtual socialization etc
Shit. That few hours of sleep every night, and constantly high stress, will seriously increase her risk of developing Alzheimer later in life. That's in the future, however. When hearing it's been lite this for her for at least 3 years now, and hearing about her cognitive dysfunctions that has started to emerge? Soon she wont be able to work at all if she keeps this up. She'll wake up one day and discover that her body doesn't respond anymore, it takes YEARS to recover from a burnout crash of that caliber. No joke.
@Puffwell it's no good place to find yourself in :(
I’ve gone through the same since 2013. I think it’s begun affecting me now, too.
"work"
It’s funny as hell tbh
I'm usually the first to point out people being disengenous and misusing this platform, but she seems completely genuine to me. Surprised there's so many dislikes on this one...
I personally think these videos are better without the twitch chat lol twitch chat are mostly meme'ing and spamming emots not at all the tone of the content
Boomer opinion: I dont get the appeal of hundreds of people nonstop spamming, period.
@@Emerald081 I love twitch & I love twitch spam, find it funny but it doesn'r fit this content mate.
@@RandamuSho All right. I only watch youtube myself.
We are not welcome here Sadge
@@Emerald081 the same reason you're reading and posting comments, Twitch is the same thing, but in real-time.
Damn Dr. K is fucking good. As someone who was raised by a Yoga teacher and taught breathing techniques at a young age I actually find them hard to utilize as an adult because the inner child in me wants to rebel against the things my parent taught me. Hearing the same language and techniques I was taught coming from a third party and relating to topics I have more personal experience with was beyond helpful.
Oh god revisiting this after everything came out… 😢
Right? :(
I really hope they have another chat sometime soon. We might get a more accurate interview. As she's hiding quite a bit in this one, unfortunately, out of necessity and due to his manipulations.
Dr.K, Is negative emotion associated with saying no to favors or requests healthy or flawed? I've observed myself thinking that (I don't have anything better to do anyway) which make me inclined to accept or rather not worthy to say no even if it's something I would prefer not to do. Is that idea ingrained and faulty thinking or is it tied to how I spend my time in general?
Gotta appreciate how easily she calms herself down everytime she cracks. I'm genuinely impressed.
because it's not genuine
Thank you so much to both of you. This was really powerful.
Defensive people are really difficult to read or help has even when the open up in an emotinal way they don t assume the negative side of their life journey , at best try to convey a neutral prespetive on the problems and neglect it entirely. Kate it a good example of that as being defensive and run from her emotions gave her an edge in focussing on work and animals , the only 2 things she combines on her ultimate goal , the rescue ranch.
After this interview, I honestly just mostly had a fear for Kate/Ama for her health. Like the cognitive and physical ailments or problems that arise from not getting adequate sleep, constantly stressed from doing so much work and progress....it's all so scary.
I'm just here to let Dr. K think and read the comments section.
really loved that conversation! everything hits home. also dealing with breathing problem
1:22:12 "The coping mechanism is to just suppress all of it"
1:27:36 "I think you've gotten so good at suppressing that your body is like 'hey, we have a bunch of emotions' and your mind is like 'uh-uh' and then they come out through your body"
1:27:52 I've been like this since I was a kid... Any kind kind of confrontation or mundane parental conversation, I would just start crying.
I wonder if Kate feels like she never had parents?
1:29:31 "I'm not emotionally torn up about anything at the moment"
I wonder if that could be her suppressed sorrow about her parents never being around surfacing, having to watch her dog die infront of her, both, or maybe some other suppressed emotions
"Do you feel like a ungrateful little bitch?" - Dr.K
Would love a follow up! Super interesting episode!
Very interesting interview! Thank you! I grew up kinda similar, not knowing who you are! like a swan under ducks, fighting against the demons!
I share her empathy, and wish her luck to explore her subconsciousness. It's a bitter pill! For me hypnosis helped! very well, still searching.
A mask tells us more than a face. (Oscar Wilde)
25:27 "MY CABBAGES!" in the chat lol
Some of you people surprise me, watching Dr. K's videos and still toxic af in the comments
Listening to Dr K is like therapy for me even if it's for different people with different issues. It shows how it'd work
I hate how these interviews have a lot of dislikes because people dislike the person interviewed. We literally do these interviews to show everyone that people like Amouranth, Katerino and Alinity are still very human and reasonable.
This is my favorite thing that Dr. K does. He helps humanize people that we've been conditioned to view as less-than by the darker parts of the internet.
@@Eric-ld4mz Talking from a community perspective
i think some do that for sure but also many are just people thinking she is a disingenuous person based on her record online.
@@olderbadboy But it is a very different thing if you think she is disingenuous and if she actually is. Our perception of the world mostly isn't accurate at all and I really think that intentions matter too, as opposed to most ppl
@@marlonese I don't think it matters overall if it is true or not because your image online is set by the viewers .
In this specific case she seems to take advantage of her looks to make money and she is treated as such ...
wow. this is something I wish more people would consider before judging a book by it's cover. great video, I'm glad this was shared with the world. truly inspiring.
you can hear the concern in her voice bless her
omg she reminded me of someone it's kind of freaking me out but it shows what type of person she is and she's hard working and concerned about others.
And by the way I'm actually one of her female moderators I just started a few months ago and I've seen the workaholic and just constantly overthinking about everything I have to reminder you need to take a breather and just chill for a minute. Cuz she's a human being with thoughts and needs to take time to take at least a 15-20 minute break away from the Monitor and so I'll check up on her whenever moderating say hey are you okay do you need anything or reminder take it easy it's getting late get some sleep and sometimes you need people like that so they're reminded that they're not a robot and you need rest. She's a generally good person she just steals with a lot of trauma and I could see and understand that because I relate to it.
I see a lot of people just disliking and writing negative comments the video before even watching it fully. I'm not going to watch all of it because her perspective/problems just doesn't connect with me...but no need to be so negative about it y'all.
a lot of people already saw this on twitch yesterday
Why not?
This woman is a multimillionaire and gets unlimited attention from men... Why would anybody possibly feel bad for her?
@@michaelangst6078 Fr 😂 she ruins the chances of thousands of other streamers actually wanting to make it big on twitch for their content
its hard to make friends when youre smarter than your peers. even if you just think that
I'm did the same but with drawing and i forgot myself and i worked a lot to reach "somdthing" and i couldnt stop and then i had a burn-out, i remember that day when i couldnt move from my bed, i understood that i was running away from that break because i refused to accept what happened to me, i was traumatised and working was like a shelter for me, that Day, my body said to me: FUCK YOU, now you cant draw, you cant run away and you will listen to me, and it was a show of physical pain! My mental pain didnt have a place in this show because my body took over! That was in 2019 and i had two tough years and i thought that i couldnt have friends and that i m like a slave to drawing but no, that burnout created a balance and im proud of this because i still the same obsessionnal drawer but my body is not against me, i dont have a really healthy life but, when my body tell me to stop drawing and to rest or to get out and have fun, i do it!! I discovered a lot of new things and its fucking Nice! Dont be afraid to reveal your true self, you are going to love it!!
the mediation part is goated for me
38:20 not either or, include: and
39:00 39:50 42:25
43:45 needs love & caring, not burden to create
44:14 burnout: the first thing to go is empathy & compassion
46:16 < lucky & grateful, doesnt mean u have to sacrifice urself
u can count on others
47:14 u dont have to grind out every sub, to do this
cant be done just by u
48:30 charity
49:10 never been taught how to take care of yourself
50:50 guilt 54:30
57:00 conflicting interests
58:35 :( 1:00:30 1:01:00
1:02:00 the bigger the empire grows, the more of u it takes
1:03:50 feel like have to choose
1:04:50 think u need to let go of ur dream
1:06:10 its not what it was supposed to be, filled w regret
1:07:00 > the closer u get, the worse u feel
the worse u feel, the more u hold onto the fantasy
bc that will make it okay
but u gotta start living for today
ur passion, drive, dedication will not disappear from a break
1:08:30 focus on the next step, not the outcome
1:12:20 schedule 1:14:10
1:17:00 free time part of ur time, to reduce work hours 1:18:14
1:19:20 psychoanalytical
1:20:00 both, not either or 1:21:10
1:26:00 😂 1:27:00 tired 1:28:25 😂
1:30:30 lost touch w yourself
1:32:50 gatekeeping suffering
1:33:55 need courage, not discipline
1:34:38 ppl are envious of hyperfocus w monetary gain, but ur just as out of control too
1:39:55 aw chat
11:00 I think we now know who's voice was saying that.
My god she has grown a thick armor, it feels like even she can't always see behind it :(
And I think its safe to bet there was lot she didnt talk about as that is what she has learned being a streamer.
I hope she finds it in her to find how to just live for her and not just live through her work.
thicc*
@Sylvia Morgan stop simping
I was surprised that Dr. K didn't reach the kind of conclusion that we are used to so I went to check the type content that she creates. I think there has to be direct consequences of generating 'hollow' content for hours on end on your mental health. That would have been much more productive to talk about. It takes a ton of mental fortitude to create content that is different from her inner personality. And once you have sacrificed so much doing something you low-key hate, the fallen cost fallacy sinks in, and the problems go on.
the chat was there!! good job editor
Hearing all the shit that she puts in to her streaming career has me wondering if I should start 😅 having already invested about 1500, I think I'll just burn at both ends until I can make myself successful enough to leave the 3rd shift job.
Really love these interviews. Probably not what I should've taken from it, but 🤷🏻♂️
Well, this is just a different way of saying things as what my therapist has been telling me. 😅
I'm not a highly energetic person. And so tasks with more steps tends to overwhelm me. I want to get things done. But I have trouble figuring out the steps to do the things. I also have adhd and a case of bipolar disorder. So my mind is a pretty chaotic place. And even with all the medications, I still have struggles. But I've been learning that I don't have to get everything done at once. I just need to start on something. I wanted coffee today. But my kids made a cereal mess in front of my coffee pot and on the floor. I made myself get up to fill my bird's water. And doing something on my list made it easier to do the next thing. Which was to corral my kids into cleaning up their mess. (It's easier to do it myself, but I'm trying to train my kids to clean up after themselves.) Then, even though it was a so so job of cleaning up, I could get to my coffee maker to make my coffee. And after coffee I felt like I could tidy up a bit. So my work area has been picked up some. Not perfectly, but better than before.
I'm easily overwhelmed. But it really helps to just look for the most simple thing I can do. 1% of something done is better than 0%. And rarely do I actually quit before I've made tangible progress. I just need to figure out ways to get started.
Someone needs to introduce Amouranth to Whitney Cummings.
The personality development.
The challenges of being an attractive woman who’s got bigger goals than just being attractive.
The challenges of being a female celebrity
The goals of taking care of animals and bringing to life an animal care farm.
Like these two women in my head are like a pair of older/younger sisters. Mentor/mentee.
Friends, after watching this episode, would be a great thing for Kate.
This was so good Dr. K. I hope she followed up. I mean, meditation as a channel point reward I'd be hitting it for her.
I want to give Kait the biggest hug. Thank you for being vulnerable and sharing and thank you Dr K for holding space for her.
Watching this after knowing that her abusive husband is/was forcing her to stream puts this entire conversation in a completely different light. It's a shame she felt she had to lie the entire conversation
Wait really? What happened -- edit to add I just googled and found the Business Inside article on it all. Wow.
The only thing i remember about her is that she got kicked out of the gym and threw a fuss because they wouldnt allow her to record.
Oooooh I remember! That must have been a couple years ago. She made a whole scene about not actually recording (as in making a video). It didnt compute that she should just drop it, she was so ignorant
She pretended not to record other people, lied to the person confronting her about recording other people, refused to comply and just record herself against the wall if she so wants to record herself, farmed fake drama by saying she didn't understand and that they were being racist, then kept at it for a few years. Not even going to watch. Not worth a listen.
I remember it too. "I am not recording" "Miss, I have your stream opened right here on my phone" "BUT I AM NOT RECORDING!!!!"
Blagno4 why wouldn’t it be worth a listen? Dr K isn’t always gonna have on saints on his stream and a lot of people he had on were borderline manic in a lot of cases like Mitch and Mira. His streams aren’t a tribunal between the streamer and people that hate them, so don’t click off if it could benefit you in some sort of way.
@@lottexy I don't know man, she gets up to some EXTREMELY shady stuff on her stream and goes out of her way to create para social relationships with her viewers. She films herself sleeping so that people can wake up with her. I know people can change, but she hasn't.
41:00 I realized he was talking about my life as well
Honestly as a woman who is probably on the spectrum, I see a lot of myself in the way Kate behaves and reacts.
What spectrum?
@Ryan Tandy what?
@@incogcheeto9322 she is made up of ultraviolett light what part of that is hard to understand
@@linneal3841 uh, because she's not.
@@incogcheeto9322 No sense of humour Sadge
I just had an idea for streamers etc. Why don't they hire a "Substitute Streamer". Just like teachers etc that are positions that can't be absent, they need substitute streamers to keep momentum in the eyes of the algorithm
Good idea, i remember Hbomb invented a something called a “skeleton stream” (from the theatre term of a “skeleton crew” - the fewest people needed to run a project). It’s a good idea but people will probably still leave while the main streamer is gone but possibly not all viewers.
So.. amon amarth got a new singer or..
I don't know if this helps Dr. K and Amouranth, but I'm exactly like Amouranth. I work in a somewhat similar industry and I work every hour I'm not sleeping for the last 2 years straight. I'm not as burnt out as her (yet), but I just wanted to say that this content really helps me.
How tf does boob content help? You just a simp
apparently not every hour if you watched this
@@elleszabo8655 Productivity tip: You can just LISTEN to things while you work and not just stare at the screen the whole time lmao
Dr K. asking for time to think things through reminds me of waiting for a program to render a cutscene/compute a problem. We need to get him a brain overclock/upgrade!
new proccessor!!!
+ ssd
Love the people around you, and cherish the moments you get to spend with them
¡Peace, love and more life to everyone out there, stay safe! 👊🏿🙏🏿❤️
My brain is forcing to get breaks cuz of productivity loss
I have dreams of dead zombie people and pets too. Weirdest thing.
Commenting for the channel. Take care yall
Awww kait, take care of yourself please.
I honestly don't believe the "abusive husband" story, I mean, she still makes money from OF even after the whole thing is over..
that's nonsense. If a person has been abused for years it doesn't mean that every choice which is referable to that event has to be canceled in order to make the story true. It's very probable that she was fine with using her image for economic purposes but she didn't want to use it that much on stream, since there's a different website specifically made for that purpose. It's sad to see so many women who are afraid to report and to openly talk about their abusive relationships cause of the fear of not being believed, actually being right
@@fzg590 before making things up go check her stream now. her imaginary abusive husband is just an excuse for her to keep doing what she is doing without the backlash.
Also, she recently bragged on twitter about making 750k a month from onlyfans in 2020, no mention of being "forced into it".
Hoping kate gets better, never thought she would of felt that way considering she seems so confident on youtube most people aren't happy i guess.
I like that they started adding twitch chat on top
1:32:04 thats gonna get on a out of context compilation
Thats exactly the reason why I am here, saw this clip in a complilation but it stopped after the question so I just had to know lol
I thought I saw this uploaded yesterday, but then when I checked 30 minutes later it wasn't on the channel. Anyone else notice that?
It was streamed on Twitch yesterday and the channel posted a community notification for it. Maybe that's what you saw? Usually there's roughly 1 day delay between the stream and the YT video. Hope this helps :)
it probably was the announcement for the twitch stream.
Man I feel bad that i'm retroactively catching up on Dr. K's interviews (I put them off since you really need to give them the full duration which is significant). I feel like there are a couple of insights that could really help Kait (I may be deluding myself about my observation skills too). Hopefully she and the people around her have already discovered them on their own. I have a weird impulse to help streamers with any issue they struggle with, if I have even the faintest of a thread of an idea.
Man I felt so much for her, especially the part at 1:26:55 where she says "exhaustion and sadness for myself" answering his question about how she feels having streamed so much for years on end. I love this channel cause you see stuff on social media or even online news sites about UA-camrs, Twitch streamers, etc, and it's so easy to forget that these are just real people in a totally new line of work, and it's really sad to see how much it can affect them sometimes. But I'm glad they choose to come on here and even if they can't or don't work with Dr. K again, maybe they will continue digging deeper into stuff and find how to be happy with themselves right now, as they are.
Holy shit this is helpful.
So I did not know who was Amouranth and never consumed her content, 1 hour before the stream I looked up that she does nsfw content I was like interested on why would Dr. K interview her, since even though I do not have a negative view towards nsfw content and who makes it, I know there is stigma and I was interested in how the people will react. I do understand now why Dr. K doesn't search who are those people he talks to, because it kinda gives you an expectation or an image of them and it ruins the whole process. And people are very judgemental of nsfw content, because it is against their morales. I think that is fine and everyone can say their opinion, but most of the time it feels that people follow the crowd and they do not know why they hate something, they just do it cause others do. Watching this stream she brought up a real problem which is over working and very high expectations, so I don't think she is any different than a workaholic at the office who watches the stream on the mean time, so her opinion shouldn't be devalued because of her career path. It is work too and it requires physical and mental energy as well.
its hard to compare actual work with sitting infront of a computer at home , talking, and sunbathing tho
Well coding or doing art is also sitting at pc all day and it still requires mental energy and can exhaust you. People feel the same as she does doing different jobs and I am not the one to gate keep who is allowed to feel a speciffic way or suffer. Is she in a better position than some, absolutely but you don't see what goes behind the scenes and in her mind neither do I.
@Wildo im sorry you're right. you CAN compare the two. Lets see. Woodworking vs sunbathing. Woodworking requires knowledge, dedicated hard work over several years to become a woodworker and continueing hard work 8-12-16 hours a day.
Lets compare this with sunbathing. First you need to be born beautiful, than you need to buy a camera, and create a twitch account. Yeah real f-ing devastating and draining.
@@jakejason4333 So streaming requires knowledge of economy and marketing, setting up your programs correctly to work in the stream and entertaining people for multiple hours a day almost every day, then hire a photographer, do photoshoots infront of hot lights and it doesn't take few minutes, sometimes it takes hours. Then you go manage your multiple accounts on social medias to everything be in check. Dont lose relevancy in the internet which is very hard as well. Keeping up the momentum, she said herself not taking a break for few years. And physical work takes a toll on your body, but mental work takes a mental toll on your mind. And even atheltes who train for multiple hours a day say that mental state is the most important thing in competing at highest level. And this channel is all about your mind, mental health, sharing experiences and how may Dr. K help or explain.
@@yorujin_1121 I'm sure she has a manager or even a group of people for organizing everything you mentioned.
The clip is at 1:37:57, if you were searchin about the "un grateful little female dog"
The current climate on Twitch and the internet in general is so toxic. I call it upvote culture, where everyone just memes and acts like an asshole so they can feel relevant and validated. You could see how chill Amouranth was on Miz's stream a few months ago, which confused me because of how much hate she gets. But of course I'm not supposed to say that, because "simp". Another word created for the sole purpose of negating rationality.
I'd argue that Twitch is exponentially more positive than the rest of the internet. I reccommend avoiding Twitter like the plague.
Farming upvotes is not exclusively an internet thing. It's a projection of real life into the internet. I'd argue that the whole society in general works like what you're saying about the internet. The only difference is that on the internet, people show both their toxic side and their genuine side in anonymity, based on their immediate state of mind, whereas in real life, everyone is just toxic all the time because they're ashamed of even showing their real side as it's never accepted and everything has to be a competition of who's the coolest person. Everyone's commited to just act cool all the time. In real life, I would never get away with saying that my hobby is either learning new languages or playing chess or playing computer games, because people will call all of these things boring and the conversation ends right there. Yet somehow on the internet, every other person likes these things. I find the internet quite refreshing to be honest. I'd even say internet in itself is a very positive feature.
edit: thanks for the gold kind stranger
*Imagine being mad over the term " simp " and calling it a negative term*
BOOOO HOOO WELCOME TO THE INTERNET PAL here's you white knight armor good luck !
Honestly I miss the days of MW2 lobbies and when people weren't as soft as you were.
Proger13 11 I’m dying bruh u weren’t even around for the mw2 lobbies ur like 12-14 LMFAO don’t talk about things u don’t know about cringelord. As a toxic person I agree that you should be able to defend people without being called a simp.
1:48 "Sleeping on the job again". 😂😂😂
i wish she could set up a day off from the stream, then its expected and might not effect they views, exept for the potentional views of that day. and a break for her could be caring for her animals taling it easy and not work social media on that day. i se my self in alot of those situations and know then self isolation is really bad, wich i think she know. take care ya'll self care is the best way to care for others :) Edit, i wrote this while just watched half the video :P :)