How to Operate your RC Hobby Grade Balance Charger for Li-Ion vs Li-Po

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  • Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
  • Our hobby grade balance chargers all use the same interface but it's unclear how to toggle between charging Li-Ion batteries vs Li-Po batteries. This tutorial video shows you step-by-step how to do it.
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  • @adamsfpv4924
    @adamsfpv4924 3 роки тому +9

    Been charging lipos for 6-7 years and never knew that I could change up to Li-ion. Thanks!

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому +4

      Yeah the interface is not intuitive at all. It isn't even consistent in itself. The Lion should just be one of the choices like the other ones on the same menu rather than having to go back and then forward again to navigate through it. A bit of a pain but it is what it is.
      You should check out new chargers these days. Some pretty incredible stuff. I'm using a Hota D6 Pro now. Dual channel, runs out of a wall outlet but can also be powered by an external XT60 battery. Wireless charging pad and USB out port. For smaller sized batteries though, something called the Toolkit M4Q came out recently too and is worth looking at if you're possibly upgrading.

    • @maestro-rcboat9881
      @maestro-rcboat9881 3 роки тому +1

      @@Funcentric me too, i'm charging my 2s lipo in my b3 pro compact charger. Does it have consequences?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому +1

      @@maestro-rcboat9881 does what have consequences? Can you clarify your question?

    • @maestro-rcboat9881
      @maestro-rcboat9881 3 роки тому

      @@Funcentric or... is it safe to charge my li-ion bat to my compact lipo charger? Cause its only what i have.

    • @farhanfaiz1998
      @farhanfaiz1998 3 місяці тому

      ​@@maestro-rcboat9881not recommended...try B6 v2 at least
      B3 compact charger will easily destroy ur lipo .

  • @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng
    @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng 3 роки тому +8

    Best tutorial ever! Made my nightmares go away after 6 months hiatus from this hobby!

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому +1

      Thanks man! Best compliment ever! Glad things are working out.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      @Brennan Noe awesome! Let me know if you need further help.

    • @alvandergoot7237
      @alvandergoot7237 3 роки тому

      Great tutorial finally know how to set my old hobby king quattro charger to charge lithium Ion cells. Thanks.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому +1

      @@alvandergoot7237 yeah, sure thing. Glad you found it helpful.

  • @hprompt166
    @hprompt166 3 роки тому +2

    thanks for the clear cut directions on how to balance charge Lipo and Li-Ion.
    You Da Man

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      Yeah, no problem! I had a hard time finding a video with good audio and lighting for this so once I figured it out, thought it might be helpful for others.

  • @toast2180
    @toast2180 3 роки тому

    Thank you bro, this really helped me a lot. Grate video

  • @aburaeese
    @aburaeese 3 роки тому

    Excellent demonstration.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      Thanks, glad you liked it. Figured there’s no other video that clearly discusses it at least with decent lighting and audio. I was trying to find something myself too.

  • @kieranrickert9260
    @kieranrickert9260 Рік тому

    Thanks, that was orsome, I was getting frustrated with my charger and you helped me from buying a new one, cheers

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому

      Good, glad it helped. Yeah, the interface is not intuitive at all. I hate these things.

  • @paulnorton7444
    @paulnorton7444 Рік тому +1

    Can't thankyou enough really helpful vid thanks, Glad you mentioned voltage as it was confusing charger saying 7.2 and battery saying 7.4👍

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому +1

      Sure! Glad this is useful for you.

  • @ayoaina_fpv
    @ayoaina_fpv 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent! Thanks for the info!

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 роки тому

      No problem. Glad I could help. I had trouble finding a video with proper audio with slow enough video that I could keep up, so made my own for y'all.

  • @All-rc804
    @All-rc804 3 роки тому

    Great video. Thanks so much👍

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, no problem! I had a hard time figuring this out. Thought others may be in the same boat.

  • @mcemtpockets1775
    @mcemtpockets1775 11 місяців тому

    Free education. Thank you

  • @blaccazzvicc
    @blaccazzvicc 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much awesome tutorial. Definitely liked and subscribed

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      Glad it worked out for you!

  • @4nperson925
    @4nperson925 3 роки тому

    Great video!

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      Thanks! Glad it worked out for you!

  • @feutastisch
    @feutastisch 4 роки тому +3

    Nice Review 👍👌

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  4 роки тому +1

      Glad you liked it! I'm still new to this video making process. I'm just happy that it's helped someone.

  • @websitesthatneedanem
    @websitesthatneedanem 2 роки тому +1

    Great for old camcorder batteries! 👍👍👍✔

  • @miningsimple1924
    @miningsimple1924 3 роки тому

    Thank you!

  • @billbuchanan2953
    @billbuchanan2953 2 роки тому

    Nice review ! A fair bit clearer instruction than some others that are about as clear as mud. Can this newer unit save settings for a few different setting profiles for those of us with a few different chemistries and specs ? I believe an older version did have that ability.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 роки тому

      Hey, thanks for your appreciation on the video. I did do a few takes to make sure it was quality and helpful to others so I'm glad it did turn out that way.
      When I was looking for a video myself, a lot of the other ones out there had either poor video and/or poor quality sound. Tried to at least improve on those and go through each step rather than skipping through the buttons that aren't even intuitive.
      This unit does NOT have the feature to save profiles for certain batteries. I wouldn't recommend a bullet lead style LiPo charger this day and age. If you already have one, that's totally fine but if you have the opportunity to buy new, I'd recommend something with a XT60 connector. Much more standard, safer, and more future proof than this old stuff.
      I use the Hota D6 Duo Pro version. Dual channel, USB output and has wireless phone charging as well. It's pricier but I feel it should last me the foreseeable future.

  • @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng
    @UnwrappingByMimiKoteng 3 роки тому +1

    Amazing

  • @davewhelan9022
    @davewhelan9022 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you very helpful

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  11 місяців тому

      Cool! Glad it worked out.

  • @robbrenton9438
    @robbrenton9438 Рік тому

    Liked and subbed !

  • @takoza5396
    @takoza5396 2 роки тому

    i totally forgot how to use ma B6mini
    and now I have some li-ion's to charge , ma b6 already had the li-ion setting .. bit confusing ,but it's charging now ^^
    thanks for refreshing ma memory mate

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 роки тому

      Cool. yeah, it's not intuitive at all for switching back and forth. It should be part of the menu like the other battery chemistries rather than replacing lipo with lion.

  • @bacardihlel9037
    @bacardihlel9037 19 годин тому +1

    Thx❤

  • @user-od7ff4gq2f
    @user-od7ff4gq2f 5 місяців тому

    That really helped me alot thanks.. can I parallel charge lithium ion batterys

  • @mikeflybyu
    @mikeflybyu 10 місяців тому

    Thanks buddy

  • @noroardanto
    @noroardanto 3 роки тому +1

    Thank you

  • @BonBonBonni
    @BonBonBonni 2 роки тому

    Thanks

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 роки тому

      Sure thing! Tried to make the audio and visual clear too. Some of the other videos I saw before making this was kinda dark or you couldn't see the buttons being pressed.

  • @technicaltreats2704
    @technicaltreats2704 Рік тому

    How much time will a 7.4 v 1300mah li-ion battery take to charge if the output current of the charging cable is 7.4v 800mah and input current of the charging cable is 5v 1A?

  • @bologanbogdan6634
    @bologanbogdan6634 3 роки тому

    Hi.i have the same battery, but another charger Imax B6. The same like your, but another colors. My battery is like your, but When i made all this like you and i press start, it write connection break. Why?

  • @HoneyBADGERx716
    @HoneyBADGERx716 2 роки тому

    Sorry to be asking for help on such an old video, this came up in my googling. I have the same charger and a similar Li-Ion battery as in the video which came with my QX7 lite. Problem is, my battery pack only has a 2S balance lead and no power lead coming out the top. The charger keeps giving me a "Battery Connection" error. Is it capable of charging with only the balancing lead plugged in? My charger may just be faulty, I don't even have another battery to test if the charger is at fault.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 роки тому

      Your charger is acting appropriately. Many chargers cannot charge w/o a balance lead which is the reason for dedicated 1S chargers on the market. It's possible that you might be able to charge 1S using a parallel board. Not true for all chargers though. It may be a good time to invest in a 1S charger that has storage charging options too.

  • @TheBenjamingough
    @TheBenjamingough 10 місяців тому

    Will using this prevent my battery's from runaway or would I be better to install bms on each of my batterys

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  10 місяців тому

      Runaway meaning thermal runaway? That has nothing to do with the charger. Thermal runaway is just the nature and vulnerability of the battery chemistry. A bms for each battery isn’t really a thing.
      Also this is an old charger. Much better stuff in the market these days. I have a video on how to choose one.

  • @yurifrommw215
    @yurifrommw215 3 роки тому +1

    I followed it step by step but my Li ion battery still wouldn’t charge. It kept saying low voltage even though it’s a 7.4 volt because the only option was 7.2 volt for 2S batteries. Is there anything I could do about that?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      I have come across that exact same issue before. I discovered that the balance lead wasn't in good shape. I had to keep inserting, removing and reinserting until it would connect. Basically, the charger wasn't reading it properly due to an old faulty balance lead. I assume it'll work with your other batteries. If so, it's definitely the balance lead that's failed on on the brink.

  • @mcemtpockets1775
    @mcemtpockets1775 11 місяців тому

    Dude! Can i buy a friggin coffee? Thank you soo much!❤

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  11 місяців тому +1

      Haha. Sure! If you’re in San Francisco !

  • @brezovprut4431
    @brezovprut4431 Рік тому

    So as I understood, my 18650 2S1P Sanyo 3400mAh pack should be charged at up to 3.4A? Isn't that too much? Is that formula (mAh/1000=charge current) confirmed by experts?
    PS. Another question: What does "storage" mode mean? Is it discharging mode for batteries that won't be used and how it differs from "discharge" mode? When should we use each of these modes (balance, charge, discharge, storage)?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому

      Yes, that’s the common charge rate. We call that 1C. Most won’t recommend charging higher than 2C for a lipo. I personally charge at 1.5c at the most. So a 3400mah pack would be at 5.1amps tops. I’ll typically charge at 1C unless I’m in a hurry or I have a long time. I may go down to 0.8C or 2.75amps in your example. Slower or lower amps is better for longevity of the pack. This is for lithium batteries. SLA batteries should be charged at a much lower rate. Same with nimh batteries. Much slower like 1/10C.

    • @brezovprut4431
      @brezovprut4431 Рік тому

      @@Funcentric Thanks ! Btw, what does "storage" mode mean? Is it discharging mode for batteries that won't be used and how it differs from "discharge" mode? When should we use each of these modes (balance, charge, discharge, storage)?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому

      @@brezovprut4431 storage is basically 3.80v per cell. Do that if you plan to store it for more than 3 or so days. It’ll keep the longevity of the battery. It’s not good to leave it full charged or too low.
      Balance charge if you have the time. It takes longer than charge but you’ll want your cells balanced out. I use balance every time. Don’t use discharge. It’s not for most situations.

    • @brezovprut4431
      @brezovprut4431 Рік тому +1

      @@Funcentric Thanks a lot for useful tips !

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому

      @@brezovprut4431 certainly.

  • @gerardrusso9642
    @gerardrusso9642 3 роки тому +2

    my lithoum ion battery has no balance lead how do I charge my charger keeps giving me a no balance lead message
    thanks
    gerard

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      I’m having the same issue with my toolkitrc M4Q. I’m going to need to create a jumper cable that basically connects two ph2.0 connectors on a balance board. I think that might do the trick but I’m not certain. I still need to look into it. Some chargers let you bypass the requirement for a balance lead for 1S batteries since there isn’t anything to balance on a single cell battery. I’ll post a video when I figure it out.
      In the meantime maybe use a different charger. One of my videos shows a charge board (not balance board) that will work via an external battery pack like the kind you use to charge a cell phone. $12-17 ish.

    • @jonnis240
      @jonnis240 3 роки тому +3

      Instead of balance charge. you can use charge.

  • @Saiful81
    @Saiful81 2 роки тому

    how much vold limit can be charged if using this charger? if i charge the vold 5s 21v is it suitable to use this charger.help me friend.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 роки тому +1

      Sorry for the late reply. Didn't see this come in. Do you mean voltage? You want to charge LiPo batteries to 4.20v per cell actual. 3.7v per cell is nominal and 4.20v is how much volts actually go into the cell when you charge it. I hope that answers your question. A 5S battery is still 4.20v per cell. You don't set the total 21v. It's done per cell only.

    • @Saiful81
      @Saiful81 2 роки тому +1

      @@Funcentric thanks 👌

  • @AfsYan
    @AfsYan 2 роки тому

    Can I use the lipo setting because the battery says 7.4v instead of 7.2v?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 роки тому

      It shouldn’t make too much of a difference. When you actually charge though, you want to have it at 4.2v per cell.

    • @AfsYan
      @AfsYan 2 роки тому

      @@Funcentric Thanks

  • @younghandsome225
    @younghandsome225 3 роки тому

    Hi I'm new to the rc hobby I have the two 4s zee 9000mah batteries an I need a charger will this work

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      Do not buy this charger. It’s obsolete. This video was only for clarifying use for anyone who already has it. I use the Hota D6 Pro Duo which is about $110 but it is flexible and you can grow into it. The only other charger I have is the toolkit m4Q but I don’t recommend that either. It’s got a few faults which I actually made a video about.

    • @younghandsome225
      @younghandsome225 3 роки тому

      Ok thanks a lot do u have a video on the hota d6 charger so I'll know how to use it

  • @BuildTimeMC
    @BuildTimeMC 3 роки тому

    I heard that if you charge li-po batterys you should use it within a few days
    Do I have to also do it for li-ion batteries also?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому +1

      Yes, they’re lithium also. 3.80v per cell. Most people say up to four days. But I storage charge mine every day. I’m just paranoid I guess.

    • @BuildTimeMC
      @BuildTimeMC 3 роки тому

      @@Funcentric do I need this special charger? I only have the charger that came in box of my rc car and it just has usb to plug into power adapter
      How do I storage charge it

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      @@BuildTimeMC To storage charge using what you have, you'll need at the very least a lipo alarm which tells you how much voltage in the battery. It costs about $3 + shipping and tax. You'll use that to gauge how much voltage. Then it's just a matter of running the car and testing the voltage to get an idea of how much run time you can have before you're at 3.80v per cell.
      To do it the proper way, yes, you'll need a legit hobby grade charger.

    • @BuildTimeMC
      @BuildTimeMC 3 роки тому

      @@Funcentric what is the cheapest one for storage charging only?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  3 роки тому

      @@BuildTimeMC you don’t want to go the cheap route. Just guess by using the LiPo alarm.
      Then when you’re ready, invest in a good charger under $80 that you can use extensively for at least a year. Do not get the Skyrc imax B6. The banana connectors on those are obsolete. There’s a V2 version that has the standard xt60 connector. I still don’t recommend that. Once you get a legit charger, it will snowball into a lot of items to get: parallel board, connector adaptors. ToolkitRC had some budget ones you can look at for under $50. There’s a few at $30 plus tax and shipping.

  • @samucapb2
    @samucapb2 8 місяців тому

    Hello! Do I need a special charger for Li-Ion batteries? I'm using just the USB cable that came with my RC Car! Thanks ^^

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  8 місяців тому +1

      No, the one you have is fine. It is rated for whatever voltage and amp it needs.

    • @samucapb2
      @samucapb2 8 місяців тому

      @@Funcentric And what about balance etc? It only applies for LiPo batteries? Thank you very much for the attention!

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  8 місяців тому +1

      The amperage of the stock charger is likely very low but safe. The usb can only handle so much. A hobby charger will likely allow you to charge much higher yet within safe limits. I do have a video on how to pick a charger that might help.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  8 місяців тому +1

      @@samucapb2 balance is technically required for all multicell batteries. Anything more than 3.7v. Balancing makes it last longer. There’s no balancing option with the usb chargers so the white balance lead is generally unused unless that’s what is being used to charge instead of the power lead.

    • @samucapb2
      @samucapb2 8 місяців тому

      @@Funcentric Thanks, bro! So, last question! Do you recommend a Hobby charger for multicell Li-Ion batteries etc?

  • @anthonysaint-preux5850
    @anthonysaint-preux5850 Рік тому

    Is it normal for these batteries to get warm or hot when charging

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому

      Warm, yes but it should not be hot. I haven't measured any temperatures so I can't quantify it. But if it's too hot to touch, that's way way too hot. The knockoff chargers do have some quality issues, so I'd advise being super careful with any of those. This charger is quite old as the interface is over a decade old. I'd recommend a better charger though. I have another video on how to select one since new chargers are coming out all the time.

  • @wilsonbatistamendez2385
    @wilsonbatistamendez2385 Рік тому

    I have a li ion battery and I put it to charge in lipo mode, what can happen?

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому

      Nothing horrible. Li-ion and LiPo both charge at 4.20v per cell when full. Storage charge is 3.85v for Li-ion and 3.80v for LiPo.

  • @thechromicjourney2987
    @thechromicjourney2987 4 місяці тому

    I tried charging just a single cell , and it showed me , low voltage ....... any idea

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  4 місяці тому

      With single cell, there’s no balance lead. If the single cell uses a balance lead type of connector for power, it may not work. I’m not sure it would recognize it if only the balance connector style is connected without a standard power lead. Make sure you’re using the single cell charge mode and NOT balance mode. There’s nothing to balance with just one cell. It may be looking for a second cell and seeing the voltage as too low for a 2 cell battery.

  • @timayscott8450
    @timayscott8450 2 місяці тому

    Best explanation loose the music tho

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  2 місяці тому

      Yeah my early videos I was still trying to figure stuff out. No music in recent videos.

  • @coreybabcock2023
    @coreybabcock2023 Рік тому

    The background music wasn't necessary

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Рік тому

      Haha, yeah old video. I don't do much of that anymore in the later videos. Thanks for the feedback though.

  • @nick0340
    @nick0340 Місяць тому +1

    Turn down the background music. The music interferes with your presentation.

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  Місяць тому

      Yeah I got a lot of that in the comments. This was one of my first videos ever. Was new to it. Still learning everyday. Thanks for the feedback.

  • @dennismyers8867
    @dennismyers8867 9 місяців тому

    Too damn much background music BS

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  9 місяців тому

      Yeah old video. I’ve learned since to keep it out when talking.

  • @Sponsoredbybaz
    @Sponsoredbybaz 4 місяці тому +1

    Thank you

    • @Funcentric
      @Funcentric  4 місяці тому +1

      Sure! Hope it helped. I know I had a hard time finding this info so I figured I’d produce something for my own reference and for others.