Darkside of Pattaya, Bars and girls, what goes on out there and is it for you? East Pattaya!

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  • Опубліковано 22 сер 2024

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  • @walter.s8145
    @walter.s8145 Місяць тому +14

    Clint eastwood classic.... every which way but loose

  • @warpeace8891
    @warpeace8891 Місяць тому +6

    Cold, 2 -12 degrees overcast Melbourne... dreaming of being in Pattaya paradise even for short time ;)

  • @MalMilligan
    @MalMilligan Місяць тому +2

    A real insider's tour. Definately off the main route and probably some jems revealed... nicely done Trevor. Than ks !

  • @jetclntn
    @jetclntn Місяць тому +2

    I enjoyed the video, I appreciate your work

  • @TLPL
    @TLPL Місяць тому +3

    Great to see more of the Darkside, instead of the same old same old. Thanks!

  • @radpixels5580
    @radpixels5580 Місяць тому +2

    Great video! Thanks for the ride and commentary from your bike. I'll be enjoying my first trip to Thailand in a few months, and videos like this are so helpful in planning for places to visit...things to do. Thanks again! Randy E.🍻🍻

  • @_Alfa.Bravo_
    @_Alfa.Bravo_ Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for the drive arround.

  • @richardcyphers9529
    @richardcyphers9529 Місяць тому +3

    Great video injoy watching it 😁👍📹

  • @HPCreations-sj1jo
    @HPCreations-sj1jo Місяць тому +3

    Excellent mate really good vlog

  • @r.d.5117
    @r.d.5117 26 днів тому +1

    Thanks for the video. I didn't put any of the locations on my to-do list. But this saved some hours of my upcoming holidays

  • @philipatkins405
    @philipatkins405 Місяць тому +2

    A good tour of the dark side interesting vlog

  • @NevNevNev8655
    @NevNevNev8655 Місяць тому +6

    The figures you quoted about the number of girls in these bars is grossly overstated.

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      Absolutely not, I'm out and about everyday

    • @NevNevNev8655
      @NevNevNev8655 Місяць тому

      @@Buzzinpattaya Maybe some a BF'D by the time l venture out

  • @blindasabat2517
    @blindasabat2517 Місяць тому +1

    "The black widows rule" 😂
    "Right hand, clyde".
    Loved both them movies.

  • @sabai111
    @sabai111 Місяць тому +5

    So in short words.... EVERYTHING is great and yummy! 😂 no matter where you go

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      Exactly!!

    • @sabai111
      @sabai111 Місяць тому +1

      @@Buzzinpattaya we know 😂
      EVERYTHING is great

  • @anthonymercer1234
    @anthonymercer1234 Місяць тому +2

    Mate love your ride around, heading back 15 August - Trev how do we find out about your Darkside tours??
    Really appreciate your time and effort mate..🙏🙏

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      Just pop into Buzzin Lounge mate all good

    • @anthonymercer1234
      @anthonymercer1234 Місяць тому

      @@Buzzinpattaya
      Thanks mate 🙏

    • @darrenford3036
      @darrenford3036 Місяць тому

      Where is the buzinn lounge I'd love to call in on my next trip...great videos BTW 👍 ❤

  • @PREPFORIT
    @PREPFORIT Місяць тому +1

    Very Unique areas. Totally worth setting a day or two of a vacation to explore them.

  • @Gordon-bb3ic
    @Gordon-bb3ic Місяць тому +1

    Been in many of the bars you highlighted when I lived in Nernplubwan. Brings back fun memories

  • @MarkEvans22
    @MarkEvans22 Місяць тому +1

    My old neck of the woods know that back road so well nice to see Tai has made Bunny Bar bigger 😉

  • @RetiredDuke
    @RetiredDuke Місяць тому +2

    Every Which way But Loose AND Any Which way You Can. Both great movies. :)

  • @davidwright2706
    @davidwright2706 Місяць тому +2

    I like these tours of east Pattaya. You don't always have to go into central Pattaya to have a good time. Prices over there are probably better over there as well.

  • @andrewj5417
    @andrewj5417 Місяць тому +2

    One of my favourite movies as a kid every way but loose love that orangutan and the funny old lady ,dark side looks good for a crawl good stuff

  • @_jamesbradley__
    @_jamesbradley__ Місяць тому +1

    Another great vid
    Thanks 🙏🏻

  • @samuelhutchison8433
    @samuelhutchison8433 Місяць тому +1

    Nice one Trev will def pay a visit when i am over cheers mate.

  • @grahamcolquhoun2295
    @grahamcolquhoun2295 Місяць тому +2

    Your living the dream, good luck

  • @shadowfilm7980
    @shadowfilm7980 Місяць тому +2

    It looks like it’s kind of far out from the main part of Pattaya. Kind of isolated. Rural. Thanks for showing!

  • @maustinmorrison2833
    @maustinmorrison2833 Місяць тому +1

    Terrific vlog i havent gone to this side of pattaya before hopefully i get to meet you again next month when i visit

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      Welcome mate look forward to seeing you

  • @wilhen1000
    @wilhen1000 Місяць тому +2

    Buzzin I’ll be there from the 27-31st of July then off to Phuket.

  • @stevedrinkschang365
    @stevedrinkschang365 Місяць тому +1

    I finally moved to the Darkside! It only took me 3 years! I'm in a nice village with a pool and sauna. 24k a month for a freshly renovated 3br2b. The owner bought 2 brand new 65in TVs. I can't complain!

  • @user-bf5fi4ss2q
    @user-bf5fi4ss2q Місяць тому +2

    The only positive side of living over the darkside is the prices of accomodations.Maybe you could review some hotels or condos over there.

  • @lancemackintosh9205
    @lancemackintosh9205 Місяць тому +1

    Grand effort china plate. Impressed with the revamped scoot.

  • @clrodrick
    @clrodrick Місяць тому +1

    I hope to get on one of your monthly Pattaya Darside day outings Trev! Sounds like lots of fun as I have never ventured that far East

  • @davidstewart7817
    @davidstewart7817 Місяць тому +1

    Hi Trevor. Good upload 👌 best tattoo shop. You spoken about one not to long ago but, I've forgotten 😅

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      I don't recommend tattoo shops incase it goes wrong, you can't just rub it out and start again lol

  • @drewcorry5056
    @drewcorry5056 Місяць тому +1

    Excellent all around

  • @paulwadsworth8203
    @paulwadsworth8203 Місяць тому +1

    Congratulations on 100 large subscribers

  • @paulfranken4493
    @paulfranken4493 23 дні тому +1

    Hi Trev…, I’m new to your channel…, great videos by the way! What I find fascinating Trev.,are the hydro lines depicted in many of your videos. One would assume if one needs hydro its a simple matter of plug & play by stringing a line onto or into a grid? It all looks sooooo unorganized & scarily dangerous.

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  23 дні тому

      Hi mate, yeah the wiring here is let's say a challenge lol

  • @petergibbs1683
    @petergibbs1683 Місяць тому +2

    Are you telling us the scrapyard bar ended up in the scrapyard. 😭

  • @Jangocat
    @Jangocat Місяць тому +1

    Right turn Clyde. Every Which Way but Loose, Clint Eastwood. I was a kid back then. 1978.

  • @jonhobson3592
    @jonhobson3592 Місяць тому +1

    If I was ever moving to this city I’d certainly consider living on that side 😊

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      100% best area

    • @jonhobson3592
      @jonhobson3592 Місяць тому

      @@Buzzinpattaya and is cheaper too yes ? But not many condos ? Older style houses ?

  • @buzzinal1410
    @buzzinal1410 Місяць тому +2

    Visited the Darkside bars a few times with Trev and the Admin team. Great relaxed fun !!!!

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      It was relaxed until we released you into the bars lol had a great time mate

  • @ergunyildizoglu8018
    @ergunyildizoglu8018 Місяць тому +1

    Hello baldy geezer. Nice video.

  • @alunedited4545
    @alunedited4545 Місяць тому +1

    heya Trevor. highly doubt i'd make my way out there but still a nice tour.
    hi Bo once again good job with the overlays/inserts. don't actually know what to call them as that would require that whadya call it stuff... oh ya editing.

  • @KiernanDavid
    @KiernanDavid Місяць тому +1

    Won't be long now Trev,100ksubs 🎉🎉

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      getting close mate, amazing to be honest, thank you

  • @jlhkia
    @jlhkia Місяць тому +3

    Right Turn Clyde: Any Which Way You Can

  • @barryjones7553
    @barryjones7553 Місяць тому +5

    Hi Trev, interesting video. Your telling people to be safe when on their motorbike 🏍 but you didn't use your helmet. Go figure?????

  • @michaelpratt3811
    @michaelpratt3811 Місяць тому +3

    Any update on 60 day visa on arrival yet

  • @yetijohn80
    @yetijohn80 Місяць тому +5

    No maps needed m8. As soon as you mention any bar you can just find it on Maps and save all the locations you recommend 👍🏼

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      That's what I thought but many ask for a map as well

    • @kevinw3800
      @kevinw3800 Місяць тому

      Yeah... its not Rocket science. Trev may aswell be tieing peoples shoe laces for them 😂

  • @LQP-Life-Questions-Project
    @LQP-Life-Questions-Project Місяць тому +1

    New subscriber. Great info. Thank you. Anyone told you sound like Al Murray pub landlord?

  • @-Calling.It-
    @-Calling.It- Місяць тому +1

    It was one of Clints films, either, Every which way but loose or any which way you can :) Right turn Clyde.

  • @scotmarsella3702
    @scotmarsella3702 Місяць тому +1

    My friends and I will be there in February. Are you still doing tours on the Dark Side?

  • @kristiansinclair9964
    @kristiansinclair9964 Місяць тому +1

    Followed along on google maps and saw some other places that I have highlighted to visit too. Did you know there is a shaolin kung fu school? seems to be worth checking it. Thanks for the view and recommendations.

  • @lusty444
    @lusty444 Місяць тому +2

    I was in this area a few hours ago getting some supplies from Siambury before the long drive up country back to our Mud Hut.

  • @mb4308
    @mb4308 Місяць тому +3

    Hi Tee is there a big ex pat community on this side, can you do a video on Naclua, it hardly gets mentioned

  • @user-tp6xk3uu5y
    @user-tp6xk3uu5y Місяць тому +1

    Might be a good idea to print a detailed map for visitors...most cities have them with printed adds along the sides....you know the type.... print them up and maybe get a loyalty

  • @franciskocher200
    @franciskocher200 Місяць тому +1

    Salut Trev.Nice vidéo...😄👍

  • @golfnut6129
    @golfnut6129 Місяць тому +2

    Hi, just a quick question to your wider audience; Whilst walking around some of the busier parts of Pattaya, there are no side walks and you end up walking on the roads (there is no where else to walk). I found that expats (in the main, I assume) on motorcycles and scooter seemed to throw ‘comment ‘ at us being in their way. The streets are narrow and packed with bars either side, there is no semblance of order and yet these individuals seem to think that pedestrians (or more to the point ‘non permanent residents’) are the issue. Has anyone else experienced this, or am I being hyper aware potentially ‘over sensitive’ ?

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      ignore them mate

    • @Ay_Ole
      @Ay_Ole Місяць тому

      I have only visited Pattaya a couple of times, this have never happened to me.
      I would suggest you be more careful.
      Perhaps walk on the right side of the road, so you can see oncoming traffic?
      I think there is some kind of weird order to the madness!

    • @golfnut6129
      @golfnut6129 Місяць тому

      @@Ay_Ole I was and we were in single file facing the ‘bedlam’ and doing our best to stay out of the way. I’m not a small guy but luckily, I am fairly tolerant. Perhaps it was they had too many beers and then trying to ride in those busy areas was just a little too much for them 🤣 only a couple of them and both extremely rude. I guess you get people like that wherever you go🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @Ay_Ole
      @Ay_Ole Місяць тому

      @@golfnut6129 Maybe you were just unlucky then!
      Beach road and 2nd road are both one way...
      I don't really understand why the narrowest of the roads are bi directional.

  • @TheOUboy
    @TheOUboy Місяць тому +2

    Great ride about T.

  • @jorgraimann1781
    @jorgraimann1781 24 дні тому +1

    I have lived on East Pattaya, Boonsaspan 11 … 😂❤

  • @benleno
    @benleno Місяць тому +2

    Any which way you can

  • @terryb4547
    @terryb4547 9 днів тому +1

    I've seen more life on Mars 😂 but lots of pool tables
    😮😮😮

  • @aaaaaaaaaaaaaa4151
    @aaaaaaaaaaaaaa4151 Місяць тому +1

    Do you know if the new £50 notes ( King Charles) are ok to exchange there? thanks

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      I would say yes mate as any legal tender is acceptable

  • @trevorbeevers9546
    @trevorbeevers9546 Місяць тому +1

    Trev how far along Nernplubwan did you start the video? Never noticed you going over rail tracks.

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      Just the other side mate

    • @harryinhuahin1272
      @harryinhuahin1272 Місяць тому

      @@Buzzinpattaya - Hi Trev, if you meant "the other side" of the railway I think you're a bit confused, as you start at the far Eastern end, in front of the 'wat'...
      This is why a map showing the Start Point (as you've usually done before) is so helpful to your new viewers because you can't Google a 'start point'.

  • @Gordon-bb3ic
    @Gordon-bb3ic Місяць тому +1

    Do you remember the Butterfly Bar in Siam Country Club Road. In it's heyday was a great afternoon and early evening place

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      Yes mate, was always fun and games

    • @manosparavida3551
      @manosparavida3551 Місяць тому

      Is that where you'd stop on the way back to Pattaya? If you wanted some 'action' you went upstairs for an allocated 30mins. I think I was always done after 20 minutes including a shower afterwards 🤣🤣

    • @Gordon-bb3ic
      @Gordon-bb3ic Місяць тому

      Favourite stop after golf at SCC

  • @m.asquino7403
    @m.asquino7403 28 днів тому +2

    I don't drink and drive I'll stay local

  • @diverdave4056
    @diverdave4056 Місяць тому +5

    ...mmm do men actually travel 1/2 was around the World to visit a bar in hopes to play a game or two of pool and hope to talk to the owner of the bar in Pattaya ??? My oh my the lovely ladies would have no chance to earn any $$$

    • @jonhobson3592
      @jonhobson3592 Місяць тому

      You can have a few drinks then disappear off with the said , bar owner 😅

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      lol

    • @diverdave4056
      @diverdave4056 Місяць тому

      @@jonhobson3592 but will they need to pay for the drinks AND beat the Owner at a game of pool in hopes that he will stay with them for a Short Time or a Long Time ?

    • @jonhobson3592
      @jonhobson3592 Місяць тому +1

      @@diverdave4056 no pool , no bar drinks or fine , just went upstairs 😬😆

    • @darrenford3036
      @darrenford3036 Місяць тому +3

      Some guys travel half way around the world to have fun and be respected by women and have fun that they can't find in their own country

  • @ThePonderosa72
    @ThePonderosa72 Місяць тому +1

    _ 2 this morning 12 decers today in Melbourne

  • @avijitbakshi3257
    @avijitbakshi3257 Місяць тому +1

    Wow.. almost a 100k subscribers..didn't notice earlier...dunno why.. and I thought you wuz just ordinary folk like me...haha..

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      I am ordinary mate, meet me you will see that

    • @avijitbakshi3257
      @avijitbakshi3257 Місяць тому

      @@Buzzinpattaya just pulling your leg

    • @kal77uk
      @kal77uk Місяць тому

      @@Buzzinpattaya prawn puree = you deffo ordinary 😂

  • @ant7281
    @ant7281 Місяць тому +2

    Hey Trev can you go to a seafood market

  • @adriantarulli6021
    @adriantarulli6021 Місяць тому +1

    I've seen the photo and I can confirm, when Trev worked out in that gym he was ripped.

  • @Unko_forgotten_smile
    @Unko_forgotten_smile Місяць тому +1

    soi bye soi 👋😄that uncle sam poster still there

  • @devin1624
    @devin1624 Місяць тому +1

    It’s really sweet how much you like dogs (don’t be embarrassed, I’m a woman)

  • @martinkenna6735
    @martinkenna6735 Місяць тому +1

    Yea deffo need public transport for tourists it would give the place a whole new dimension. The money would be rolling in.

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      For certain mate

    • @offdapace2627
      @offdapace2627 Місяць тому +1

      We don’t want tourists over this side, that’s the whole point of living on the dark side your out of the way from all the tourist and tourist traps

  • @matmatsuzaki2619
    @matmatsuzaki2619 Місяць тому +2

    from your looks and how you sound, I think you have recovered from your respiratory issued. Do you remember you were caughing and had throat issues. I was worried. Your original beautiful complexions have rreturned and your sun burns are not too red looking. Im happy for all your health and wellness every day Trev !! good luck !! and be safe !!

  • @steveone
    @steveone Місяць тому +3

    Any which way but loose , Clint Eastwood .

  • @JeddieT
    @JeddieT Місяць тому +17

    You might as well be in Timbuktu without a map showing where you are Trev. You’re not doing these businesses any favors if no one knows where you are or how to get there.

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +20

      Mate it's one road with most of the bars on, surely people know how to use Google maps in this modern world

    • @JeddieT
      @JeddieT Місяць тому +9

      @@Buzzinpattaya …Trev, you put inserts of hotel rooms, condos, and restaurants of every place you talk about. Why can’t you insert one map, one time, with all the spots you are highlighting clearly marked?
      If your goal is to do both your viewers and the businesses a favor, you’re failing at that goal.

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +6

      Can do okay

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +14

      Almost 100k subs say the quality is okay but thanks anyway

    • @Sallyfrench...
      @Sallyfrench... Місяць тому +6

      ​@@JeddieTYou must be a bit simple if you don't know where in pataya he is.. he tells you the names of the roads. And it's not like it's the a hidden gem in pataya. It's the main strip! It's like going to Nevada and saying you can't find Vegas! 😂

  • @paulclare6589
    @paulclare6589 Місяць тому +1

    what happened to the booze lounge and hk liquid zoo?

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      Booze lounge is open, new owners now

  • @Laz3rS1x
    @Laz3rS1x 11 днів тому +1

    What’s a “girly bar”?

  • @bobbrocoli7116
    @bobbrocoli7116 Місяць тому +1

    10:45 is that a junk yard? Or homeless camp? Im unfamiliar.

  • @blindasabat2517
    @blindasabat2517 Місяць тому +2

    Trev, what do you think of the gambling law change? Think it will be a boom. The chinese tourists can't get enough. Hope you get in on the jackpot 😆 🤷‍♂️

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      Let's see mate as things change before the ink dries

  • @colinmacphee9146
    @colinmacphee9146 Місяць тому +1

    Is Monas bar on this soi?

  • @boxcartwilly
    @boxcartwilly Місяць тому +1

    👍😎

  • @chrisehrhorn4160
    @chrisehrhorn4160 21 день тому +3

    Great video of nothing !

  • @raymondturner9441
    @raymondturner9441 Місяць тому +2

    Wan phut podium attempt

  • @jax_cph
    @jax_cph Місяць тому +1

    i'm sure your wearing your helmet when driving around town... right?

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      haha it's a secret unless the windows reflect differently

    • @triggerdigger2107
      @triggerdigger2107 Місяць тому +2

      Brother, you literally are talking about how dangerous it is and you aren’t wearing a helmet. We don’t want another go fund me, just wear one mate - even if it messes up your hair.

  • @ShaunBurke-gd6lg
    @ShaunBurke-gd6lg Місяць тому +3

    Every which way but loose Clint Eastwood

  • @TeddyBear-zj4qg
    @TeddyBear-zj4qg Місяць тому +1

  • @canaryspreadshiswings1166
    @canaryspreadshiswings1166 Місяць тому +2

    Could you get a bolt there and back ?

  • @petepana1140
    @petepana1140 Місяць тому +2

    Trev 60 day entry..?!!???🎉😊

  • @scottwohler7228
    @scottwohler7228 Місяць тому +1

    Every Which Way but Loose

  • @mindcache5650
    @mindcache5650 Місяць тому +1

    I’d be bored in Pattaya after 9 months.

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      each to their own mate

    • @graguitar6493
      @graguitar6493 Місяць тому +1

      You don't get bored in Pattaya but you do get worn out keeping yourself from going bored. I lasted 8 months

    • @patrickglennon7058
      @patrickglennon7058 28 днів тому

      ​@@graguitar6493and then where?

    • @graguitar6493
      @graguitar6493 27 днів тому

      @@patrickglennon7058 I moved to bang saray and just rode up to Pattaya a night a week for a couple of short times. Had my regulars come stay with me on long times in rotation. Was the perfect balance until I met my girlfriend. Now live with her in Hua Hin.

  • @BNN_BreakingTwitter
    @BNN_BreakingTwitter Місяць тому +1

    What's the weather like! You're having a laugh aren't you? We're in Kent and it's like winter has come early; global warming 😂 💰 ❤️2U and the wife.

  • @NomYaiinspector
    @NomYaiinspector Місяць тому +1

    I went to Aqua Demie about 12-13 years ago. A minibus organised by Josh from the Irish Rovers took a group of us on a crawl around the Dark Side. I remember the ST rooms along the side of the pool at Aqua Demie 😁

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому

      Haha good ol Josh, great lad

    • @user-bf5fi4ss2q
      @user-bf5fi4ss2q Місяць тому

      A lady on Thai Friendly tried to beckon me all the way out there today for 2000 bht St.
      Long way from Soi Bukaow.I declined this most generous offer.

  • @taalofaa
    @taalofaa Місяць тому +1

    U shure took the long route! I walked from Sukhumvit to find those bars. 1st stop was the grocers on the way into this street. Across the tracks I was soaking wet with sweat and lungs chock full of vehicle exhaust. Maggie May was ok, bar nexxt door was IMHO ladyboys and blends of same.
    Fully unimpressed i walked on into a semi residential area full of dogs wandering. Backtracked and same same all bars women were at or over 40 years of age. Sunburned as i was and in need of a sit down i did at a bar near the supermarket. Zero girls greet nor even seemed friendly. I assume 3 pm was too early.................. Anyhow it felt great cross the tracks and get back to familiar territories.
    I do not recommend the dark side unless u speak and understand thai and are over 50

    • @Buzzinpattaya
      @Buzzinpattaya  Місяць тому +1

      You seriously must have had a bad day, have lived over this side 10 years, it's excellent, most if not all girls speak English, sound like you were lost as MM isn't even in Eat Pattaya it's in Jomtien and Soi Chiyapoon

    • @taalofaa
      @taalofaa Місяць тому

      @@Buzzinpattaya I walked Sukhumvit and was in area of second road out exercising . I saw the entrance on east side of sukhumvit. went up road entrance and walked what seemed an hour in high heat to darkside bar boring but had possibilities. Bar next door was ladyboys imho. Zero actually interesting in the area after i left and went back to the road and made a left to full boring places. Even the massage shops was closed at 3 pm! So , anyhow i guess there are night time possibilities', but why bother since everything closer and easier at the beach anyhow. English is spoken but girls older much older and seemed all housewives or with children if a female.
      I also sensed there would be plenty stray wandering dogs out at night though I avoided them due to the high heat that trip.
      Nice cheap condo's and Townhouses everywhere and an easy 60k fixer upper 100 sq m units too