There's a fourth that I use. It's a modified way of doing the ball puller, but I have yet to see one come out as easy as yours did with just a quick tug, also, when the puller is stuck in there and you pull the ramrod out hard you can pull the ball puller out of the lead, stripping out the hole you made because the lead is soft. My method is to get a cleaning rod with a metal handle, a good one and attach the ball puller to that. Make sure the cleaning rod is at least a foot longer than the barrel, you're going to need the room. Then tap in and screw the ball puller into the ball or bullet as much as possible. Then, take a hammer and a brass or nylon punch and tap the BOTTOM of the cleaning rod handle. The barrel must be in a padded vise to do this. Notice I said TAP, not hit it like you're pounding a nail. Slowly tapping it this way will save your back from trying to yank that ramrod and puller loose, it also will make sure that the puller won't strip out of the ball. Just tap it like that and after a few minutes the ball will come loose. I've done that same technique and I get all the muzzleloaders from my local gun shop that come in loaded or are sold that way because the prior owner forgot or just didn't care. Just this fall I've removed balls from 6-7 guns, 4 of them being sidelock guns. It's safer and you won't ruin anything.
Ha ha grease gun definitely wouldn't have thought of that glad i came across this video working on an old muzzleloader that was given to me some time ago and its loaded lol thanks for the info
Adapt a air fitting to the thread of the nipple, clip into an air compressor and just wait, pressure assuming the ball fits tightly should come up to like 60psi before dropping to like 30ish and the ball falls put the end. Sometimes if the ball isn't so tight you may want to get like 100 psi in the tank before clipping onto the nipple adapter
I’ve made my own ball pullers by welding different size screws to the end of steel rods. If the smaller one strips out of the ball go to the next size up. I also once had a really stubborn minie bullet (.58 cal.) stuck by a fellow shooter. I took a 1/2” mild steel rod and upset the end to a slip fit for the bore. Then I hand filed a “spade bit” type cutting end on it and used it like a hand drill bit to slowly chew out the lead bullet. The old timers told me they would pour mercury down the bore and it would dissolve the lead. 😳
You should get a big brass ramrod for the range and to use for that type of work. The wooden rod won't hold up to regular use like that. Have you tried the CO2 gun method?
Obviously it depends on the design you have, but most come off using a barrel vise and wrench adjusted for the tang. Crescent wrenches work "OK" if the tang is parallel but most are slightly tapered. Before attempting something like that, soak it in some kroil.
@kurtthegunsmith ok I do have the accessory tool bit to fit on it, It's tight, I've had that end of the barrel full of PB buster, for 2 days now. I am not wanting to mess this up, it is... right handed threads correct??? And I also have to ask, can you heat the end of the barrel at all??? I also do not want to compromise the integrity of the barrel???
Never used a grease gun before, but is there a way you could load it up with water instead of grease? Would be safer since you're saturating your powder charge, and less cleanup. Just a thought, not sure if it's possible.
I made my own pullers it is a timber screw with meaty thread silver soldered to a brass fitting which screws on to my cleaning rod. Shop pullers are tiny ok for small cal
I recently took my nephew to the range he was loading my bess and it was done correctly. But the ball stuck 2 inches down the muzzle. Ok what the range officer did was completely unnaceptable. There was no need for the treatment. There was a ceasefire with people checking targets and he wanted me to point the muzzle down range which I refused to do it was a loaded weapon and could not believe he thought that prudent. So I racked it. It was freshly patched for fouling so it did not snag due to that. I pulled the ball at home, and oh yeah was it stuck yet not rammed at all as I had a bad feeling it would just stick further in. And my calipers revealed the issue as the ball was quite pristine. It was far too big for 75cal ball. .73 is what they were marked as well this was .745 or more and the barrel has a low tolerance as well. So it was a ammo issue. I still took onus for this but that was not good enough. Not in the US and here muzzleloaders are almost looked down upon as a nuisance. I trusted the person who cast them but never again. I did the right thing and informed range staff, I was not going to try my luck firing it out knowing it can do a pipe bomb type explosion. Oh well.
Never can get the ball puller to work always strip it out. Found pulling nipple and getting about 5 to 10 gains in put nipple. Cap and shoot down range,,,,has worked every time,,,sometimes it whistles
😂If you fill the grease gun with heavy oil it works just as well as grease but it is a lot easier to clean by standing gun upside down and oil will run out.
Ive looked on the Internet and I cant figure out an answer to my problem. I dont anything about guns but some jerkoffs near me were shooting rounds off in the air on New Years Eve (idiots) and one of their bullets came back down from being shot up in the air and landed in the hood of my wifes truck. Its stuck in the hood and looks intact still. Cant the gun powder make the bullet go off if i try to bang it out? How can i remove this thing stuck in metal safely?
That was extremely irresponsible of them. The powder sends the bullet out of the barrel when ignited; once the bullet has taken flight and has stopped its travel, it is no longer dangerous. In short, you can remove it safely without worrying about any potential detonations.
There's a fourth that I use. It's a modified way of doing the ball puller, but I have yet to see one come out as easy as yours did with just a quick tug, also, when the puller is stuck in there and you pull the ramrod out hard you can pull the ball puller out of the lead, stripping out the hole you made because the lead is soft. My method is to get a cleaning rod with a metal handle, a good one and attach the ball puller to that. Make sure the cleaning rod is at least a foot longer than the barrel, you're going to need the room. Then tap in and screw the ball puller into the ball or bullet as much as possible. Then, take a hammer and a brass or nylon punch and tap the BOTTOM of the cleaning rod handle. The barrel must be in a padded vise to do this. Notice I said TAP, not hit it like you're pounding a nail. Slowly tapping it this way will save your back from trying to yank that ramrod and puller loose, it also will make sure that the puller won't strip out of the ball. Just tap it like that and after a few minutes the ball will come loose. I've done that same technique and I get all the muzzleloaders from my local gun shop that come in loaded or are sold that way because the prior owner forgot or just didn't care. Just this fall I've removed balls from 6-7 guns, 4 of them being sidelock guns. It's safer and you won't ruin anything.
Great tips thank you!
Ha ha grease gun definitely wouldn't have thought of that glad i came across this video working on an old muzzleloader that was given to me some time ago and its loaded lol thanks for the info
Adapt a air fitting to the thread of the nipple, clip into an air compressor and just wait, pressure assuming the ball fits tightly should come up to like 60psi before dropping to like 30ish and the ball falls put the end. Sometimes if the ball isn't so tight you may want to get like 100 psi in the tank before clipping onto the nipple adapter
Definitely better than pumping grease in their
I’ve made my own ball pullers by welding different size screws to the end of steel rods. If the smaller one strips out of the ball go to the next size up. I also once had a really stubborn minie bullet (.58 cal.) stuck by a fellow shooter. I took a 1/2” mild steel rod and upset the end to a slip fit for the bore. Then I hand filed a “spade bit” type cutting end on it and used it like a hand drill bit to slowly chew out the lead bullet. The old timers told me they would pour mercury down the bore and it would dissolve the lead. 😳
I inherited that exact same firearm. What year is that thing?
We took the nipple out and put black powder in and put it back together and fired it
You should get a big brass ramrod for the range and to use for that type of work. The wooden rod won't hold up to regular use like that. Have you tried the CO2 gun method?
Just got the ball out with the grease method, how would you recommend getting the grease out?
You can use kerosene or even gasoline if you do it outside and careful. Also, you can used a heat gun or propane torch to melt it right out
Obviously do not use the propane torch if you used the kerosene or gasoline first
How do you get the nipple base(breach???) Off the end of the barrell???
Obviously it depends on the design you have, but most come off using a barrel vise and wrench adjusted for the tang. Crescent wrenches work "OK" if the tang is parallel but most are slightly tapered. Before attempting something like that, soak it in some kroil.
@kurtthegunsmith ok
I do have the accessory tool bit to fit on it, It's tight, I've had that end of the barrel full of PB buster, for 2 days now.
I am not wanting to mess this up, it is... right handed threads correct???
And I also have to ask, can you heat the end of the barrel at all??? I also do not want to compromise the integrity of the barrel???
Never used a grease gun before, but is there a way you could load it up with water instead of grease? Would be safer since you're saturating your powder charge, and less cleanup. Just a thought, not sure if it's possible.
I made my own pullers it is a timber screw with meaty thread silver soldered to a brass fitting which screws on to my cleaning rod.
Shop pullers are tiny ok for small cal
I recently took my nephew to the range he was loading my bess and it was done correctly.
But the ball stuck 2 inches down the muzzle.
Ok what the range officer did was completely unnaceptable. There was no need for the treatment.
There was a ceasefire with people checking targets and he wanted me to point the muzzle down range which I refused to do it was a loaded weapon and could not believe he thought that prudent.
So I racked it.
It was freshly patched for fouling so it did not snag due to that.
I pulled the ball at home, and oh yeah was it stuck yet not rammed at all as I had a bad feeling it would just stick further in.
And my calipers revealed the issue as the ball was quite pristine.
It was far too big for 75cal ball. .73 is what they were marked as well this was .745 or more and the barrel has a low tolerance as well.
So it was a ammo issue. I still took onus for this but that was not good enough.
Not in the US and here muzzleloaders are almost looked down upon as a nuisance.
I trusted the person who cast them but never again.
I did the right thing and informed range staff, I was not going to try my luck firing it out knowing it can do a pipe bomb type explosion.
Oh well.
Never can get the ball puller to work always strip it out. Found pulling nipple and getting about 5 to 10 gains in put nipple. Cap and shoot down range,,,,has worked every time,,,sometimes it whistles
It whistles? Are you sure what you heard wasn't a ricochet?
what do you use to get the grease out of the barrel
if anyone has any suggestions please let me know been dealing with this for a couple weeks now
Hot soapy water should do the trick, be sure to give it a light coat of oil afterward
hot soapy water in the barrel?
@@kurtthegunsmith
on the inside of the barrel
is what im having trouble with
I have a question about the maker of the Hawken rifle pictured at the beginning of this video. Could you please let me know the maker. Thanks.
I'm not entirely sure, it was made by a guy in North Dakota, I do know that much
😂If you fill the grease gun with heavy oil it works just as well as grease but it is a lot easier to clean by standing gun upside down and oil will run out.
Sounds much cleaner 🤣
I've used Compressed air With success.
Ive looked on the Internet and I cant figure out an answer to my problem. I dont anything about guns but some jerkoffs near me were shooting rounds off in the air on New Years Eve (idiots) and one of their bullets came back down from being shot up in the air and landed in the hood of my wifes truck. Its stuck in the hood and looks intact still. Cant the gun powder make the bullet go off if i try to bang it out? How can i remove this thing stuck in metal safely?
That was extremely irresponsible of them. The powder sends the bullet out of the barrel when ignited; once the bullet has taken flight and has stopped its travel, it is no longer dangerous. In short, you can remove it safely without worrying about any potential detonations.
@@kurtthegunsmith thank you
Yes, it does, in fact, sound as though you have stupid neighbors.
@stever4469 I suspect that aliens lock their doors when they fly past Earth, anyway.
Four, compressed CO2 discharger.
Why would you want to pump grease in your gun just use air
Air did not work in that case