When I was a kid, there was a neighbor across and down the street from my house in the late 60's early 70's that had one of these with a spotlight in the middle of the roof above the windshield. I could always hear it start up and would run to the window to see. He would wind it up and back it out of the driveway quickly, , then put it in forward and wail it down the street. I like two stroke everything, and rode exclusively two stroke motorcycles for a time, both street bikes and trail bikes from about 1974 to 1983. If I came across one of these cheap enough and in good enough condition, I would love to have one for a toy today. There's nothing like the aroma of an over rich two stroke starting up in the morning.
Had a neighbor with one of these growing up in Ohio. People made fun of him cuz he had to mix the gas with the oil. But most snowy morning she was the first one out and he would clear the street
Growing up with these, we 3 kids used to do a great imitation of the Saab leaving or coming home with Dad. We called the 612 Saab 96 the "Breen-de-deen" car, because of its strange sound. "BweeEEEn-de-deen-deen-deen, BweeeEEEn-de-deen-deen...
Sounds like that old snowmobile that I used to own lol! Do you have to pre-mix the fuel and oil? Do you have to carry spare spark plugs, spark plug wrenches, belts, and extra quarts of oil when you drive? How long do the crankshaft seals last? How about when you de-accelerate, do you have to push in the clutch to allow the RPM's to come down so you don't starve the engine of oil? Maybe not belts I suppose... Are they built any better than the 2-stroke Trabant?
Some Saabs came with an oil metering system that would dispense the appropriate amount. In my '67 Monte Carlo 850 rebuild we left it off and premixed when fueling. Great car, lousy mileage.. 3carbs/2stroke/15mpg.. My Saab had a freewheel mode activated by a cable pulling out gear connecting forks in the tranny. The difference in quality of build between Trabant and Saab is vast.
@@klasadolfsson3213hi Klas.freewheeling was selected by pulling a knob under the dash. In the US some states traffic laws forbid freewheel operation (IN).
Do not let the revs go down!!! at least 6500rpm never less!!! This engines "pull" a front wheel drive car!!! That needs to have high revs for very good handling qualities as well as awesome stability!!! Saab 2 stroke!!!=a winner!!!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
So yeah, for a daily driver those engines are a big pain in the rear, I'd rather have a 36 or 40 hp with the cutout crank throws. They pulled nicely from 2K on up, no need to rev past 6 grand.
Actually it has a special oil feed pump with 7 feed lines, four go directly to the main crankshaft bearings, and 3 go to the lower cylinder walls. The oil isn't "premixed", it's just the opposite, it's fed undiluted into the turning and sliding parts of the engine where it can form a film of oil at critical friction points before the gas/air mix can dilute it. The Suzuki 2cycle CCI injection system is similar.
Need to know if direct injection methods have been attempted on the 2-stroke engines, yet. [ v = VYG4wiDwBho ] Kawasaki H2 750 Triple. ' I almost kilt meself on those bikes, high speed dismounts, vehicles oncoming, crossing, wet roads... ' [ v = JgHcJpUsTmA ] CycleDrag
Look up the KTM 250 and 300 cc Enduro EU spec bikes, test riders are claiming the transfer port injection makes them pull better at lower RPM's, some are comparing them to Diesels in this regard.
Actually similar but entirely Saab's own design, The porting was improved and they had a real distributor with a mechanical vacuum advance which made the stock versions very nice cars to drive in traffic.
I owned and loved a 67 Monte Carlo 850.. destroyed by dealer svc dept. Ressurected by a tech I met years later. Destroyed again by an auto electric shop.. Thanks
Had a 63 and a 64 . And noisy they were. BUT ... When I installed a more expensive ORIGINAL O.E.M. FRONT MUFFLER that 1 st ( 63 ) Saab WAS SO QUIET!!!! AND HAD A PLEASENT RING GA DING SOUND. The 2 nd one a 62 Had a COW HORN !!!! HALARIOUS !!! BUT neither one had any good heat come cold weather. And the original tires width were TOO NARROW AND IT'S WHEEL TRACK SIDE TO SIDE WAS WAY TOO NARROW TO BE CORRECTLY ALIGN ED ON THE TYPICAL AMERICAN CAR WIDTH ALINGEMENT APPARATUS ( BEAR ) DURING THE 60S. LOVED THE ENGINEERING BUT TOO MANY REPAIRS I.E. ONE SAAB STORY AFTER ANOTHER. FINALLY BOUGHT A 69 TOYOTA CORONA HAD IT FOR 16 YRS AND NO MAJOR PROBLEMS WHAT SO EVER .
@@ericr.severin8434 Really your heater core must have been plugged because both of my cars when warmed up would drive you out of the car with their heat. I think you're confusing your car with a VW Beetle, VW's had crappy heaters. Our local car repair place was able to realign my 1962's front end quite easily and professionally the mechanic said it was one of the more easier cars to do an alignment job on. And they're known for their work on oddball European cars, they had just done the front end on a 1948 Fiat Topolino the week before. So having competent mechanics that know what they're doing, matters.
@@Jonsson474 yup they were like little go carts. My 62 sedan was phenomenal for sticking to wet road surfaces. The only car that was better was my 1970 Saab 99.
most lawn mowers are 4 stroke aircooled and made of thin cast aluminium, the SAAB 2 cycle engine block is ductile Nickel steel and as tough and as long lasting any small car engine ever made. As long as you keep the right kind of oil in their oil injection or proper ratio of premix they stay running.
Only a Saab can sound like it's going 900 mph but only be going 30mph
That and a Honda Civic with a coffee can muffler getting on the freeway haha
@@KuchiKopium DWK F 102. Vollgasfahrer!
@@KuchiKopium* sounds like it's going 1448,4096km/h; only be going 48,28032km/h
That's the fun.
Wartburg: Are you sure about that?
When I was a kid, there was a neighbor across and down the street from my house in the late 60's early 70's that had one of these with a spotlight in the middle of the roof above the windshield. I could always hear it start up and would run to the window to see. He would wind it up and back it out of the driveway quickly, , then put it in forward and wail it down the street. I like two stroke everything, and rode exclusively two stroke motorcycles for a time, both street bikes and trail bikes from about 1974 to 1983. If I came across one of these cheap enough and in good enough condition, I would love to have one for a toy today. There's nothing like the aroma of an over rich two stroke starting up in the morning.
The sound of those two stroke engines ,,is like music in my ears !!
Sounds like a 70s dirt bike rally. I'm all in on this.
Had a neighbor with one of these growing up in Ohio. People made fun of him cuz he had to mix the gas with the oil. But most snowy morning she was the first one out and he would clear the street
You were right, I needed it.
The 2-stroke sound from Saab = The engine of symphony orchestra from Trollhättan in Sweden. 💨🔊🥁🎺🎼🎶🇸🇪❤😁
Last week there was one of these out at Bonneville trying to set a class record on the salt. You ne er know what you will see out there.
was it green?
Growing up with these, we 3 kids used to do a great imitation of the Saab leaving or coming home with Dad. We called the 612 Saab 96 the "Breen-de-deen" car, because of its strange sound. "BweeEEEn-de-deen-deen-deen, BweeeEEEn-de-deen-deen...
Oh the Sound and Smell of a two stroke ❤
never liked the sound or the smell of 2-stroke engines..... up to now... LOVE the sound of these Saabs
These are freaking awesome!
A little bit like the Mazda 787 which won Le Mans. That one had a high and loud rotary engine.
Sounds like a bad ass weed whacker.
Sounds like that old snowmobile that I used to own lol!
Do you have to pre-mix the fuel and oil? Do you have to carry spare spark plugs, spark plug wrenches, belts, and extra quarts of oil when you drive?
How long do the crankshaft seals last?
How about when you de-accelerate, do you have to push in the clutch to allow the RPM's to come down so you don't starve the engine of oil?
Maybe not belts I suppose...
Are they built any better than the 2-stroke Trabant?
Don't have all the answers but i do know that they had freewheel hubs, so no engine brake.
Some Saabs came with an oil metering system that would dispense the appropriate amount. In my '67 Monte Carlo 850 rebuild we left it off and premixed when fueling. Great car, lousy mileage.. 3carbs/2stroke/15mpg..
My Saab had a freewheel mode activated by a cable pulling out gear connecting forks in the tranny. The difference in quality of build between Trabant and Saab is vast.
@@klasadolfsson3213hi Klas.freewheeling was selected by pulling a knob under the dash. In the US some states traffic laws forbid freewheel operation (IN).
I carry extra plugs, and two 5 quart containers of oil in the trunk. Freewheeling works great and I'll definitely miss it in a normal car
There's just one single belt on the car. Does the trabi have a second one powering the fan?
Greasy triple
Love the sound!
Glorious.
I'd like to see 36 saabs running laps at Bristol. Of course you may not see them for long because of the smoke😂
Do not let the revs go down!!! at least 6500rpm never less!!! This engines "pull" a front wheel drive car!!! That needs to have high revs for very good handling qualities as well as awesome stability!!! Saab 2 stroke!!!=a winner!!!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
So yeah, for a daily driver those engines are a big pain in the rear, I'd rather have a 36 or 40 hp with the cutout crank throws. They pulled nicely from 2K on up, no need to rev past 6 grand.
Remember the gas station attendant trotting out with a can of warm oil to put in Moms tank,in winter.
Yep!
Same harmonics as a 20b 3 rotor 😊
👌🏼
Except a rotor goes heaps harder
@@fredorico41 yea no shit
@@fredorico41 of course it’s more power. It’s more technology dude. Please don’t be one of them JDM fanboy guys 🙏
@@CJmk3supra
I'm no way one of them I like big rigs and yokes with plenty of poke( tractors)
But they won rally championships, like Monte Carlo.
Yes indeed at least 4 times in Monte Carlo Rally!!😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Remember evryone that those sounds much louder irl
Power range? 200 rpm. :)
My 96 Sport (1965) auto-mixes the oil...fuel the tank and fill the oil tank under the bonnet, no more premixing...
Actually it has a special oil feed pump with 7 feed lines, four go directly to the main crankshaft bearings, and 3 go to the lower cylinder walls. The oil isn't "premixed", it's just the opposite, it's fed undiluted into the turning and sliding parts of the engine where it can form a film of oil at critical friction points before the gas/air mix can dilute it. The Suzuki 2cycle CCI injection system is similar.
it sounds like it cant get out of its own way
Need to know if direct injection methods have been attempted on the 2-stroke engines, yet.
[ v = VYG4wiDwBho ] Kawasaki H2 750 Triple.
' I almost kilt meself on those bikes, high speed dismounts, vehicles oncoming, crossing, wet roads... '
[ v = JgHcJpUsTmA ] CycleDrag
Look up the KTM 250 and 300 cc Enduro EU spec bikes, test riders are claiming the transfer port injection makes them pull better at lower RPM's, some are comparing them to Diesels in this regard.
❤ Saab ❤ DKW engine 🎉
The Best ever built!!!😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Actually similar but entirely Saab's own design, The porting was improved and they had a real distributor with a mechanical vacuum advance which made the stock versions very nice cars to drive in traffic.
Thanks, now I want one. 😐
I owned and loved a 67 Monte Carlo 850.. destroyed by dealer svc dept. Ressurected by a tech I met years later. Destroyed again by an auto electric shop.. Thanks
I had a 1968 2 stroker. Made it to around 65,000mi then on my way home from work one eve decided to puke up all it's rod bearings!
Sound fast but slow move...hahaha but it rare
yeah, they are becoming very old and not many are on the roads sadly.
Had a 63 and a 64 .
And noisy they were.
BUT ...
When I installed a more expensive ORIGINAL
O.E.M. FRONT MUFFLER that 1 st ( 63 ) Saab
WAS SO QUIET!!!!
AND HAD A PLEASENT
RING GA DING SOUND.
The 2 nd one a 62
Had a COW HORN !!!!
HALARIOUS !!!
BUT neither one had any good heat come cold weather.
And the original tires width were TOO NARROW
AND IT'S WHEEL TRACK
SIDE TO SIDE WAS
WAY TOO NARROW TO BE
CORRECTLY ALIGN ED
ON THE TYPICAL
AMERICAN CAR WIDTH
ALINGEMENT APPARATUS ( BEAR )
DURING THE 60S.
LOVED THE ENGINEERING
BUT TOO MANY REPAIRS
I.E. ONE SAAB STORY AFTER ANOTHER.
FINALLY BOUGHT A 69 TOYOTA CORONA
HAD IT FOR 16 YRS
AND NO MAJOR PROBLEMS WHAT
SO EVER .
These two stroke Saabs were however not slow for the time. They successfully competed in European rallies in the 50’s.
@@ericr.severin8434 Really your heater core must have been plugged because both of my cars when warmed up would drive you out of the car with their heat. I think you're confusing your car with a VW Beetle, VW's had crappy heaters. Our local car repair place was able to realign my 1962's front end quite easily and professionally the mechanic said it was one of the more easier cars to do an alignment job on. And they're known for their work on oddball European cars, they had just done the front end on a 1948 Fiat Topolino the week before. So having competent mechanics that know what they're doing, matters.
@@Jonsson474 yup they were like little go carts. My 62 sedan was phenomenal for sticking to wet road surfaces. The only car that was better was my 1970 Saab 99.
The angry lawn mower...
most lawn mowers are 4 stroke aircooled and made of thin cast aluminium, the SAAB 2 cycle engine block is ductile Nickel steel and as tough and as long lasting any small car engine ever made. As long as you keep the right kind of oil in their oil injection or proper ratio of premix they stay running.
match that EV lovers
Fuckin awesome 💪👍😂