WHAT IS HAPPENING TO STRONGMAN!? (MAJOR INJURIES)

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  • Over the last number of weeks we have seen some major names getting injuries leading up to the 2024 World's Strongest Man. We talk about what could be causing this and the injuries themselves.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 206

  • @EllisThings
    @EllisThings Місяць тому +90

    Before ASC: most stacked lineup ever. what a year it's gonna be.
    Before WSM: well, it's a two horse race.

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому +11

      Tbf with those events, you could add them all back pre injury and wsm would still have been a two horse race.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@bronchopedBut now those names won't have a chance to stir the pot and take points away. Mateusz is a shoe-in for podium if he was healthy.

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому +4

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 perhaps. Ragg and singleton seem in excellent shape. Yes it makes it harder to split mitch and tom now

    • @malcolm5514
      @malcolm5514 Місяць тому

      It really started with Luke R. and then went downhill from there tbh :/

    • @Natefirethemagnets
      @Natefirethemagnets Місяць тому

      Mateusz hasn't been 100% for years. ​@@a-a-rondavis9438

  • @CircaInfinity
    @CircaInfinity Місяць тому +37

    Too many big competitions now to keep relying on the same handful of athletes. Also the payouts are so low that guys that rely on the money compete when they’re battered and broken. Something has to change in the money and types of events, Rogue has gone full sadist mode lately and picking events that lead to injuries.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому +5

      "Rogue has gone full sadist mode lately" 🤷😅

    • @user-jt6qd8ri4l
      @user-jt6qd8ri4l Місяць тому +2

      And the competitions are too close together

  • @mariusjohansen702
    @mariusjohansen702 Місяць тому +17

    I think its fascinating a comp that needs 30 competitors give some of their athletes such short time to train. Injuries can always happen, but it's their lack of planning and having a backup plan that is fascinating. They should have like 10 guys back up that got told waaaay in advance. Lucas Hatton got asked like a couple of weeks ago and apparantly said no.

    • @77slate
      @77slate Місяць тому +1

      Agree 💯 it's all seems very last minute and chaotic this year. Hope the actual comp is better planned than the lead up has been but from an outside perspective they really don't seem to have their act together this year at all.

  • @jlalonde1000
    @jlalonde1000 Місяць тому +15

    Don't forget strongman training is healthy if you are just training for yourself but if you want to be the top that is when the risk comes in just like any sports

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +3

      Anything competitive physically is almost inherently not "healthy", especially with PED's involved. Now, competition as a concept is very healthy for our horomones, condition, psychology, and development especially in younger people, but the tip-top world competition is not. It is a sacrifice for a specific goal.

    • @TheHonestPeanut
      @TheHonestPeanut Місяць тому +2

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 Literally what the OC said.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому

      @@TheHonestPeanut I know, I was making the case for the principle.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      ​@@a-a-rondavis9438facts 🙌

    • @93Beefcake
      @93Beefcake Місяць тому

      Come on if there is any sport that is nothealthy for your body it certainly is strongman

  • @simenandersen3262
    @simenandersen3262 Місяць тому +15

    Is this happening because the athletes wants too much too fast?
    Brian, Zydrunas, Hafthor were competing for years in the WSM before they became at their absolute best. But now many of the guys wants to jump from 10th place into the podium.

    •  Місяць тому +10

      You're on the right track, that's the way. Guys like B, Z and Hafthor developed their peak strength over 1 or 2 decades, allowing enough time for the tendons to catch up, hence why they went through much much longer careers, with much fewer injuries. Z for example never had a single bicep or hamstring tear, amazingly strong and thick tendons. Nowadays, the signs are obvious, see it this way: guys below 27 years of age, bald, aged faces that look like 45 yo, competing at world level with injury after injury, are clear signs of "too much PED since their 20s". I'm looking at you, Novikov, Flowers, Richardson, Kieliszkowski... clear signs all around.

    • @simenandersen3262
      @simenandersen3262 Місяць тому

      @ That's my observation aswell. Big Z almost never lifted to failure and/or did 1RM attempts in training. He saved that for competition. But athletes now are trying to break world records in training, which is ridiculous.
      Also Svend Karlsen had the strongest legs in the world, he tore his quad in the 1997 WSM, and he used 5 years to properly rebuild that strength and be at his strongest in 2002-2003 (speaking in terms of pure strength and not competition results). However, right now it seems when they get a major injury it's straight into surgery (Which isn't always the best) and get back into competing in 4 months.

    • @TheHonestPeanut
      @TheHonestPeanut Місяць тому

      Yes.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому +9

      ​@Big Z tore both of his patella tendons very early in his career and he still managed to achieve what he achieved. I know Big Z pretty well and trust me he had loads of small injuries in his career, but still managed to compete and win, witch was always a head scratcher for me 😅 Probably his god like genetics played a very big part in these wins. When it come to guys aging in their 20's and looking like they are in their 40's you are not wrong.

  •  Місяць тому +6

    The answer is far too obvious, isn't it? The sport has grown to a point where you must take whole pharmacies of PEDs to compete (to be 150+ kg). Guys bump in and out of injuries, and to get back to competition level fast, means more and more PEDs. Tendons can't develop that fast. Guys like Novikov who started PEDs early did not allow his tendons to grow far enough before competing at world level, hence the many injuries now. Too much PED everywhere, simple as that.

  • @greggoode3450
    @greggoode3450 Місяць тому +7

    I welcome new guys to the field. Let the injured guys heal up. I don't need to see new world records in every big comp.
    Great sober perspective you guys are offering. Important realities, these injuries, long recoveries, and realistic expectations. I'm a hobbyist lifter and in 2019 had an acute onset of sciatica with / lower-back issues. The original injury was decades ago from doing squats w/o warming up or stretching. I heard the horrific "pop" sound. So beginning in 2019 I had to do MRI's and two years of careful physical therapy, never pushing too hard. I've now recovered 95% to before 2019. I now spend 45 minutes a day warming the area before letting it bear weight in the gym. Thanks again for the great content!

  • @vitoaugello1677
    @vitoaugello1677 Місяць тому +4

    Big bodies, big weights, something got to give. And its usually the athletes that suffer. I know everyone wants to see 1000lb deads but we're losing the best men. Stress on muscles, and heart, too heavy weights. You have to go back to the days of more stamina, flexibility and speed events. Now at about 30-35 yrs old, getting hurt and done.

  • @tribeof2035
    @tribeof2035 Місяць тому +4

    Perhaps it’s time for athletes and promoters to unite on safety and health as well as a more defined season.
    We have one day shows, one day shows with WR attempts, week long shows and several two days shows through a 10 month period.
    We also have different athletes in terms of size and strength.
    Where do you place the heavy shows that only certain athletes attend and where do you put the lighter shows that are completed in 3 hours.
    Is it a strength event, endurance, power and should there be weight classes? Where do you put grip and stone events? Where do you put WR deadlift, log and Axel?
    Arnold, Rogue, Shaw and Giants should flesh that out and tell WSM how it’s going to be.

  • @alexanderreich749
    @alexanderreich749 Місяць тому +2

    Its very interesting to get your in-depth experience, especially from a very decorated guy like Vytautas. Great insight overall, love the channel and I usually listen to your stuff very quickly as soon as I have to do some housework or go for a walk :)

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      Thank you for watching our videos, it really means a lot to us 🤜🤛

  • @MrBenandrea
    @MrBenandrea Місяць тому +11

    I think the problem is they know what the events are in advance so they push to there limits in training those events. It the events were more random then they concentrate on being all round strong like in the older strongman days like 80s and 90s and probably not push individual events to the same limits so theoretically less injuries.. I think it would make for less predictable competitions also

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      Maybe you have a point 🤔

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому

      The reality is the competition is much more competitive from first to 30. Instead of it just being competitive from 1-5. Everyone has to push to the max just to compete. This was definitely not the case before. Z used to do most shows at 80% and win using it as a training day. That is near impossible today.

  • @johnqpublic407
    @johnqpublic407 Місяць тому +2

    I'm wondering if the old attitudes towards super creatine and strength building are haunting the younger athletes who came up under those regimens.
    And the lack of proper, immediate care for these injuries, either because of local medical issues or $$ to do so, depending on where they live.

  • @crazycjk
    @crazycjk Місяць тому

    Very interesting video, I agree with some of the other comments about guys pushing too many "supplements" too quickly aiming for the very top before their connective tissues are really ready, including with rehab from injuries. As fans, are our expectations of how frequently athletes should compete too high? Also the first video I've been recommended from you - excellent production value. Thanks

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      When it come to competing at the highest level, everyone have different approaches. For example Mitch Hopper is competing pretty much i all competition, but maybe that's his plan all along, to compete hard for couple of years in as many competition as possible and than just retire on top.
      Thank you for the comment 🙏

  • @bronchoped
    @bronchoped Місяць тому +13

    Its not a dull time for the sport. Its a great time. Dont mean injuries, but all the many new faces will get the spotlight that they have deserved. Its a changing of the guards. It happens every 5 or so year's. Crowder for example is a monster that has deserved invite for years
    This will be the most interesting wsm heats in many years. Most years we know exactly who will win which group and who will most likely be in the stone off. This year there are so many who could. Its still is a strong lineup overall. Just not as many big names. No one here knew of hooper 2.5 years back, now look at him

    • @zane2897
      @zane2897 Місяць тому +1

      Crowder will not do well at this competition and he has never deserved to go to WSM.

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому +3

      ​@@zane2897why? He has a 1000lb dl and is excellent at ladder. Overhead is great etc. All the events except stone off seem solid for him

    • @zane2897
      @zane2897 Місяць тому +2

      @bronchoped gym hero, showtime zero. Can you name one top American that he has ever beaten in strongman? All of the athletes that have been to WSM in the US have beaten him black and blue his entire career. He has never beaten one of them at anything. So if he cannot beat any of the top Americans, and has proven this for years and years, why is he even there? Oh yeah, cause some really good Europeans and one American are sitting it out.. lmao, this is the only way he would ever get an invite!! He does not deserve the invite, he just got it because they are literally scrambling and running out of top athletes to choose from, so they turn to the bottom of the barrel, which is Marcus Crowder. He is no good.

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому

      @@zane2897 let's see in 1.5 weeks

    • @spokeen6249
      @spokeen6249 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@zane2897 your comment doesn't make sense. Marcus was amoung the first half of atheltes announced, how was he in anyway a replacement?

  • @ToTallTim..
    @ToTallTim.. Місяць тому +3

    Once again, great video guys!

  • @ToeTheFoe
    @ToeTheFoe Місяць тому

    Well said bros

  • @mccabessupplementsandgym3913
    @mccabessupplementsandgym3913 25 днів тому

    New sub, great content man.👍

  • @stevelynch5843
    @stevelynch5843 Місяць тому +2

    I'm going to tell you something big guys when you hurt yourself that pain only gets worse as you get older, I'm 60 now and can barely walk, I was no where near as strong as you guys but for my body weight I could lift some pretty good weight, every time I hurt my myself it just got worse all my pain now is from nerves and arthritis, to me once the injuries start it's time to stop

  • @markantonyraines
    @markantonyraines Місяць тому

    It may be due to heavy training and events seemingly close together I hope all the athletes get better soon

  • @ladsgomez5954
    @ladsgomez5954 Місяць тому

    Well the bar is set really high now to be a top level athlete. Its so hard on the body not to give with those tremendous weights they have to lift. I think the guys need to be more strategic in picking a few shows to compete in and allow more time for their bodies to recover properly.

  • @JamesStewartarmwrestling
    @JamesStewartarmwrestling Місяць тому

    Stay safe guys

  • @Thulgore
    @Thulgore Місяць тому

    I had a brachialis issure due to shoveling extremely sticky snow. (it stuck to the shovel like no snow I have ever dealt with) Almost three years later things seem to be mostly fine again. (it wasn't a muscle thing so much as a pain thing)
    It wasn't even from lifting the shovel it was from trying to shake the snow off of it. I never went to a doctor so I don't know. I just know that palm down that arm hurt like hell. (in the elbow area but it wasn't the elbow) Such a weird sensation and I still don't know how to describe it.

  • @johnyoung5413
    @johnyoung5413 Місяць тому

    All these injuries suck lately. Hope they all get back to peak shape soon. Apparently there’s another one that’s pulled out of worlds injured that’s unannounced yet according to big loz on his live last night

  • @justinpaul3110
    @justinpaul3110 Місяць тому +15

    I hate to say this but we are seeing the twighlight of Oleskii, Martins, Mateusz and Janashia's careers.
    Also, aside from their riduculous size and power, another aspect of the Shaw, Z, and (especially) Thor was how little they got injured. This also led to their shocking longevity.
    If you look at the history of strongmen, most of the top competitors only lasted about 5-7 years at the top level, at best.
    In other words: most of these post Shaw-Z-Thor guys are lasting about as long as you'd expect them.

    • @SvenTheShoeBuyer
      @SvenTheShoeBuyer Місяць тому +1

      Martins has said he probably has a few big shows left in him (as of last year), Novikov is barely 28, he can recover. I'd love to see Mateusz win some big shows, but he can't see to avoid injury. Shaw only competed twice a year for a long time, that's how he avoided injury I think. Now there are a ton of shows. If the top level athletes can afford to only do a few shows a year, they should, to minimize injury. Sticking to Arnold's, WSM, Strongest Man on Earth, and Rogue. Unless you're winning or close to it, it's hard to make good money though.

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому +2

      Tbf Z had a career ending injury for most athletes but still was able to come back and win all the trophies. Both patellar popped under conans at rhe start of his career. Doctors said competing was done.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@bronchopedZydrunas is the Strongman terminator. A double patellar tear and he's had his whole massively successful career ahead of that. Insane.

    •  Місяць тому +3

      @justinpaul3110 agree, but this is a only modern strongman era effect, filled to the gills with PEDs, blasting everything in their 20s before tendons cought up. I say this because also pre B, Z and Hafthor, athletes had long careers, a decade+ at world level. Think of Samuelsson, Karlsen, Ver Magnusson, Kiri, Badenhorst, Capes, Kaz, etc. Google up how long they remained at world level, all of them about a decade or even more.

  • @willyhwang1059
    @willyhwang1059 Місяць тому +1

    it's so easy to tear biceps lifting stones in a rush (yes, in a rush)
    instead of 5 stones.
    why not 3.
    and it heaviness based
    instead of time based.

  • @user-my2se7sn3s
    @user-my2se7sn3s Місяць тому +1

    It's a shame these people are out but at the same time it's gonna be great seeing other strongmen getting there chance instead of the same names every time. Also for all you people out there saying they should cancel the comp because these big names are out you people are whats wrong with this sport pathetic cheer leaders I don't care about names or what country there from I enjoy seeing the best person putting in a great performance on the day

  • @KamelinJalka
    @KamelinJalka Місяць тому +2

    2024 - the year of the biceps

  • @SamA-ov8he
    @SamA-ov8he Місяць тому

    A lot of them do seem to be coming back from injury very quickly. I think a lot of them use bpc-157 now which does work but I think makes them rush back

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      Loads of people talking very highly about BPC157, i need to ask couple of surgeons about this peptide, to see what are they thinking.

  • @TL13579
    @TL13579 Місяць тому +1

    Martins's earlier time off worked because it was the pandemic and he trained properly. All this travelling around the world will ensure his yet another comeback will be bad. As for Mateuz and Novikov, peaking that early seems to be taking its toll now. Out of the current top guys, Tom seems to be the only one who hasn't faced any major injuries.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому +1

      Some people want to see Tom compete more, but most likely Tom has the right approach when it comes to longevity in the sport.

    • @TL13579
      @TL13579 Місяць тому

      @@LalasBrothers Yes. He seems to be doing a lot of things right. Unlike Thor, he's taken his time getting up to that weight as well.

  • @markantonyraines
    @markantonyraines Місяць тому

    Part of a problem with when recover your mind can create a mental block

  • @user-jt6qd8ri4l
    @user-jt6qd8ri4l Місяць тому

    The problem is that they have major competitions to close together they need to space them out more

  • @joebot9309
    @joebot9309 Місяць тому +3

    Lalas brothers are gonna get the call from Colin this week!

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому +1

      Why?

    • @EllisThings
      @EllisThings Місяць тому +1

      @@LalasBrothers think the implication is that they'll be so low on athletes that you will get a spot in the heats

  • @BM-hw7kp
    @BM-hw7kp Місяць тому

    What’s with the Achilles injuries? Bish now too

  • @espenstoro
    @espenstoro Місяць тому

    It's heartbreaking to see when you think about how much effort they have put into it for this one big competition, and then it's all gone in a split second. Inconvenient for us and the promoters, yes, but it really sucks for them. 😐

  • @greer776611
    @greer776611 Місяць тому

    Fudge tunnels- that's it I'm suiting up!

  • @jacobbalzer7599
    @jacobbalzer7599 Місяць тому +1

    Will be interesting to see whether Hooper keeps going if he ever has a major injury, I doubt he would come back since he’s already achieved pretty much everything

    • @wanderer_oti
      @wanderer_oti Місяць тому

      It's hard to say. He trains pretty smart so if he were to return it would probably be a good while

    • @mark4lev
      @mark4lev Місяць тому

      @@wanderer_otihe’s well backed and presumably can afford the best sauce

  • @youtubeconnollyfamily
    @youtubeconnollyfamily Місяць тому

    In a couple years, we will be going through the next generation of strongman. We will start falling in love with a bunch of new younger athletes coming up.

  • @tabascojoe77
    @tabascojoe77 Місяць тому

    💪💪💪

  • @Rich-tc2lh
    @Rich-tc2lh Місяць тому

    Not only strongman injuries but Fan injury.. Meaning if your a fan of Mateusz it hurts too.... Cause i want to see him compete and do well.. So it hurts everyone even.. Fans

  • @edwatson4997
    @edwatson4997 Місяць тому

    👍 Torn both my biceps.

  • @thestrongseminarian
    @thestrongseminarian Місяць тому +2

    Think Shaw has been taking a few calls this week with all these injuries? Sad for the athletes, not sad for WSM. That show has not been interesting for a few years now.

  • @nonbiasedgoblin1431
    @nonbiasedgoblin1431 Місяць тому +1

    Nice bideo

  • @AidenTStrong
    @AidenTStrong Місяць тому +10

    Well on the bright side, we have Tom, Hafthor, and Mitch, so good comps to be looking forward too

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +5

      Hafthor's not doing any Colin-involved event, so WSM and Giant's Lives are off-limits. He's only doing probably the 505+kg deadlift prep, and Rogue Invitational, which is way in late October. It's literally just between Mitch and Tom for the whole season. Mitch is really gonna push to bolster his career this year and probably set himself up for retirement somewhat soon, unless Tom comes in like a raging bull and stomps the comp down like he should.

    • @Moin0123
      @Moin0123 Місяць тому

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 what is a colin-involved event?

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому

      Ragg is a monster. Singleton on his day is up there too. ​@a-a-rondavis9438

    • @jman2_012
      @jman2_012 Місяць тому

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 hafthor's also doing the shaw classic

    • @iysaw
      @iysaw Місяць тому

      You've been under a rock

  • @hughjanus4594
    @hughjanus4594 Місяць тому

    I suspect we're going to see some great newcomers battle it out for third (being Mitch and Tom)

  • @janoycresva276
    @janoycresva276 Місяць тому +1

    I hope Kieliszkowski does win but realistically, given how dominant Hooper is now, how he’s continuing to get injuries & how he can’t get his deadlift up to a consistent 430 kg, I think he’s destined to be listed as the 2nd strongest man never to win WSM after Riku Kiri & Derek Poundstone.

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +3

      Mateusz injured his Achilles and he's out for the time being.

    • @janoycresva276
      @janoycresva276 Місяць тому +2

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 Correct & since 2019 he’s consistently gotten hurt multiple times not to mention all his complications from the surgeries he’s had in addition to his deadlift not going up high enough so he’s losing so many points on it to the point to where he won 3/5 events at the 2023 ASC yet lost due to his deadlift & overhead which he has great pressing power

  • @hairyape_8103
    @hairyape_8103 Місяць тому

    How do you avoid/prevent bicep tears after coming back from a tear and surgery?

    • @joebot9309
      @joebot9309 Місяць тому +2

      modify the form that caused the injury (ie. how you lift a stone)

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Місяць тому +1

      Strengthen your tendons and don't get on the juice and you should be fine

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому +1

      Biceps seems to be much harder to pop after surgery

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому

      Tons and tons of conditioning and blood flow.

  • @colinduncan4295
    @colinduncan4295 Місяць тому

    The top guys being so good is maybe making up-coming athletes choose to try get too strong to quickly with some extra special creatine 😊. Tendons and ligaments take much longer to get stronger than muscles do. You can also maybe look at the quality of modern day "creatine" that's maybe better quality than what was on offer 10 or 20 years ago.

  • @VoidOperator
    @VoidOperator Місяць тому +1

    They all have to push themselves way harder than ever to even try to compete with Hooper

  • @seffer777
    @seffer777 Місяць тому

    I’ve never been injured in my time in strongman, but I did tear my hamstring doing sprints in the backyard with my kids 😂

  • @ThomasSFH
    @ThomasSFH Місяць тому +2

    Maybe also mention that these Strongmen athletes at the top level are taking PED - (Performance Inhancing Drugs) and therefor they can train their body more times a week than a natural athlete... but the tendons in the human body does not want to play that same game, they need more recovery time (at least as far as I know)

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +4

      Tendons in enhanced athletes need way more volume and conditioning than natural athletes because the muscle bellies are augmented to be bigger and stronger than the tendons can handle on a regular basis.

    • @tylergash3175
      @tylergash3175 Місяць тому +1

      Some of the PEDs the guys take lead to these injuries. A lot of bicep injuries come from tren because of some sciency reason that I can’t explain

    • @mark4lev
      @mark4lev Місяць тому

      @@tylergash3175it’s worth pointing out that strongmen back in the day tore their biceps as well. JPS and Jamie reeves both had this injury. Jamie tore both arms!

  • @mark4lev
    @mark4lev Місяць тому

    I always thought that these newer guys were pushing it too hard. doing 1000lb deadlifts for example. Can’t be good the the body

  • @zcddrew
    @zcddrew Місяць тому

    Love the video boys. I think Martin's should retire. I hate to say that as he was one of my favourites, but I think after his last rogue comp he should have been done. He looked beyond broken that comp with his hip and don't think he will ever come back full time. I would love him to do youtube, train up and comers, and do commentary at shows

  • @brianpolston9713
    @brianpolston9713 Місяць тому +3

    Bicep tears and tendonopathy are by biggest fears,

    • @mark4lev
      @mark4lev Місяць тому +1

      Thor has never torn his bicep. He must be the only guy who hasn’t

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому

      Hooper and tom havent​@@mark4lev

    • @Julian-mk7hd
      @Julian-mk7hd Місяць тому +3

      @@mark4lev and mitchell hooper

    • @brianpolston9713
      @brianpolston9713 Місяць тому

      It's all about static bicep strength and not actually curling them in heavy lifts. But sometimes in thr heat of battle techniques go

    • @ladsgomez5954
      @ladsgomez5954 Місяць тому

      Big risk pulling underhand on an axle with big weight. The tendon and muscle can only take so much before it gives.

  • @terranceharrison
    @terranceharrison Місяць тому +2

    I think the shows are too heavy. Early 2000's the shows were lighter and guys competed more. Not everyone can be like Brian Shaw and do two shows a year, they need to earn a living

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +3

      Shows are heavy sure, but rhe athletes are super strong now compared to 15-20 years ago.

    • @terranceharrison
      @terranceharrison Місяць тому +1

      @@a-a-rondavis9438 no theyre not mate else they wouldnt be getting injured

  • @bobz4968
    @bobz4968 Місяць тому

    Olympic lifters in the clean you don’t use biceps. Even with power clean.
    It takes training to create the habit of not using the biceps. I think it is possible to pull the axle to the belly without the biceps.
    But I can imagine with the axle not being used as often in strongman as the clean is used in Olympic lifting, it must be difficult for a strongman to learn not be using the biceps in the axle clean.
    With the Achilles ruptured scar tissue forms with tendon repair for life. Elasticity is lost that can never be regained. Injuries combined seem to throw the body out of balance. Never good as new.

    • @allylilith5605
      @allylilith5605 Місяць тому

      the biggest difference is that the axle is very thick and doesnt allow for hook grip, so you essentially need to mix grip it, putting much more strain on the underhand bicep

  • @RubbishGimpy
    @RubbishGimpy Місяць тому

    Do you think strongmen are not training general weigtlifting and lower weight reps seperate of competition event lifting.
    All I see in strongman videos is training event lifts with minimal warm up and general lifts. I know we see only what they want us to see but it appears its time off or deload and event lifting training. The ratio of all round weight exercise vs strongman lifting might be off. The body all round needs to be conditioned.

  • @deepee21104
    @deepee21104 Місяць тому +1

    time for new blood to come in..........taking time off because of serious injury is a major set back for any athlete........its a shame but injury prone....and its game over...........

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Місяць тому

      Hooper is the new blood

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@Ryan-wx1bimore than just one athlete needs to come in with all these injuries lol.

    • @deepee21104
      @deepee21104 Місяць тому

      @@Ryan-wx1bi hes only one man........

  • @famtastic6367
    @famtastic6367 Місяць тому +2

    Is there an argument to be had that a lot of these shows are to close to each other not allowing the athletes time to recover from the last event/show it’s not like they’re doing light weight in any of these! You’ve had esm a couple of weeks out from wsm then you have shaw’s show right after and we’ve only just had Arnold’s these guys are exerting themselves to levels of weight and stress on the body that 95%of the population couldn’t even comprehend let alone move

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому

      Strongmen can pick and choose what they want to do. They don't have to do everything. The problem is the athletes pushing themselves for major shows and not being prepared enough in their general preparedness training before specifying the event training. Biceps are important in Strongman, and I think Strongmen in general don't do enough curls and isometric training to their biceps to have them at least ready to be hit hard with all the events that tax the biceps.

    • @TL13579
      @TL13579 Місяць тому

      No, this argument doesn't hold. Martins and Mateuz have barely competed in the last few years. Being injury-free is a skill in and of itself.

  • @garydunn7213
    @garydunn7213 Місяць тому

    So many very high-level shows with massively high standards. Athlete careers are much shorter than they used to be, in any sport. Competing at the highest levels is going to hurt you eventually if you wnat to be the best. But we still do it.

  • @petershortland478
    @petershortland478 Місяць тому +2

    If im correct Rauno has done in both his achilles and he has a 476 deadlift masters record and ruined WSM for Brian 😅😅 seriously tho i do gym and when i feel something i feel like something is going to pop 😢😢

    • @bronchoped
      @bronchoped Місяць тому

      Rauno has done Achilles multiple times now

    • @JackFate61
      @JackFate61 Місяць тому

      Rauno should move aside for younger competitors

    • @petershortland478
      @petershortland478 Місяць тому +2

      ​@JackFate61 one athlete which doesn't get talked is Aivars each time I see him he looks in shape he very very rarely is injured

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому

      ​@@petershortland478Ah yes, I do gym too.

  • @MarianA-vu8tb
    @MarianA-vu8tb Місяць тому

    There should be no surprise, these athletes fly a bit too close to the sun if u know what I mean, when u put such insane stress on your body something will give way sooner or later, body was not meant to deal with lifting such insane weights, especially tendons, muscles u can grow but tendons stay more or less about the same, like in car u upgrade the power by putting a big ass turbo but u don't upgrade the transmission ...
    Like with anything in life if you are operating something at 110% for too long you will get lucky until you are not, you are playing Russian roulette pretty much.
    This sport is like redlining an engine, you are taking a gamble if engine will blow up or not.

  • @user-vy6tb7ot6x
    @user-vy6tb7ot6x Місяць тому +1

    WSM must come back to old fashion style like 2000 year doing competitions less weight for reps and there willbe no injury, but right now steroids not comare with weight used more and more and more we have 510 kg deadlift what now 600 then 700 ???this is sick there is a end of human body possibility

  • @TimCaruana
    @TimCaruana Місяць тому

    I'd really like Evan or someone else to roll in and win. If Mitch wins again, there's a good chance he'll go hard for the remaining comps this year and then retire and focus on business.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      Mitch is pushing his body very hard, it wouldn't surprise me if he decides to retire after this year.

  • @hulkthedane7542
    @hulkthedane7542 Місяць тому

    Hope for WSM, they get a good show in spite.

  • @Natefirethemagnets
    @Natefirethemagnets Місяць тому +1

    Novikov should not have entered Europes. Probably would have torn at Worlds but at least it may have healed a little more. Mateusz should just retire unfortunately, poor guy can't stay healthy and has pretty much been perpetually injured for years. Strong as heck but his body breaks too easy.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      I think deep inside Mateusz knows that retirement is not far ahead.

  • @laurasmith7867
    @laurasmith7867 Місяць тому

    Do you miss Lithuania?

  • @davidbarak5510
    @davidbarak5510 Місяць тому +5

    Martins said Mateusz are both in denial 😢

    • @JackFate61
      @JackFate61 Місяць тому +4

      Martins is finished, he will never again podium

    • @a-a-rondavis9438
      @a-a-rondavis9438 Місяць тому +6

      I think Martins used up his potential physically and his joints and such are really paying the price. With Mateusz, without a solid deadlift, has no chance of winning a major show. With this Achilles *rupture?, has zero chance of fully recovering and doing any damage anymore. I used to not really have any faith in Mateusz as of late, but now this seals the deal. He needs to retire and switch lanes. He has plenty to work off of.

    • @tylergash3175
      @tylergash3175 Місяць тому +4

      Both are done. I doubt we’ll ever see Martins podium at a major event ever again. I could see Mateusz podium at the Arnold’s one more time, but he’ll never win a major title at this point. There’s no way he can build his deadlift with his accumulation of injuries. I hate to say it because it looked like we were entering a golden age in the sport. I also doubt that we’ll see the old Oleksii again. This gives Evan, Trey, and Ragg a chance to prove themselves.

  • @spokeen6249
    @spokeen6249 Місяць тому

    Plus shane flowers out unfortunately.
    And another one yet to be announced 😔

  • @petershortland478
    @petershortland478 Місяць тому

    Shane Flowers is next athlete to suffer the same he also tore his bicep 😢

  • @krisztianhodossy8848
    @krisztianhodossy8848 Місяць тому

    Trenboloni sandwich can go a long way....

  • @cody4109
    @cody4109 Місяць тому +1

    For years we’ve been spoiled, getting to watch the best strongman in the world and now it’s going to be the most boring WSM ever.

  • @N8SAY
    @N8SAY Місяць тому

    Damn mixed grip. Yuck.

  • @yougotfelted8297
    @yougotfelted8297 Місяць тому +1

    its a dull time in the sport. Really bummed to see shane injured.

  • @dude1393
    @dude1393 Місяць тому

    In 2018, I dislocated my shoulder playing American 🇺🇸 Soccer ⚽️. I tripped running 🏃 and feel down. My dislocated shoulder was popped back into the socket. Then my arm kept popping out randomly after that. My doctor found that I had broke my Later-jet. The Latarjet operation, also known as the Latarjet-Bristow procedure, is a surgical procedure used to treat recurrent shoulder dislocations, typically caused by bone loss or a fracture of the glenoid. I had my surgery in 2019 and was in an Arm sling for 9 months and 4 months of PT.
    I even broke my middle finger tip called Mallet finger that injury where if you jam your finger on a ball.

  • @SvenTheShoeBuyer
    @SvenTheShoeBuyer Місяць тому

    Too many guys got the clot shot? Probably causing some havoc.

  • @michaelmullins1290
    @michaelmullins1290 Місяць тому

    Let's get Brian outta retirement. Just a thought. Lifting these massive weights is definitely a injury prone business. Hopefully everyone stays healthy through WSM.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому +1

      I don't think that Brian wants to come back, he retired at the top and in my opinion it should stay that way.

  • @misterc5783
    @misterc5783 Місяць тому +8

    It’s happening across all sports.
    There’s a very clear contributor to this but nobody wants to talk about it. So I won’t 😂

    • @GrandmasterFerg
      @GrandmasterFerg Місяць тому

      What is it?

    • @byzantinebill
      @byzantinebill Місяць тому +1

      Did a provider of super creatine get caught or something?

    • @mark4lev
      @mark4lev Місяць тому

      Google t nation. He knows

    • @Ryan-wx1bi
      @Ryan-wx1bi Місяць тому +4

      It couldn't possibly be pharmacology related and guys are having their muscles outgrow their tendons. Definitely not that

    • @misterc5783
      @misterc5783 Місяць тому

      @@Ryan-wx1bi It isn’t that. No.

  • @elvikingobarbaroja
    @elvikingobarbaroja Місяць тому +1

    I wonder if WSM will start treating fans properly by having a live stream.
    I wonder if WSM will treat athletes properly by having a proper reserve list so that athletes can prep properly when the inevitable injuries happen weeks before the show.
    WSM is the 3rd or 4th best competition in the world these days. I hope they shake a leg and improve because the nostalgia factor of the competition is excellent.

    • @LalasBrothers
      @LalasBrothers  Місяць тому

      Live stream would very nice, but i can't see it happening soon.

  • @jolouisd
    @jolouisd Місяць тому +1

    I think strongman as a career is a bit odd, seeing as people became strong due to generations of doing the same work and marrying strong. Now that PED has taken away that pedigree, we get glass cannons and acid reflux influencers

  • @willyhwang1059
    @willyhwang1059 Місяць тому

    maybe it's time to retire the stones for a while.
    it's getting too boring now
    and causing injuries

  • @willyhwang1059
    @willyhwang1059 Місяць тому +1

    go back to the old school days.
    WSM can offer spots to wrestlers, football players, olympic weighlifters, powerlifters, bodybuilders.

  • @andrewrivera4029
    @andrewrivera4029 Місяць тому

    Need some new blood.

  • @JohnnyCarterMusicOfficial
    @JohnnyCarterMusicOfficial Місяць тому

    Why are we all acting shocked that doing the most intense physically challenging sport in the world is ending up injuring people ? Lmao

  • @Gallo1118
    @Gallo1118 Місяць тому

    Too many PED’s.

  • @damianen2164
    @damianen2164 Місяць тому +1

    No weight category is ruining strongmen
    200kg guys conpeting with guys weighing 150-160.. totally unfair, and unhealthy to have 200kg weigh. Also less attractive to watch, as events are made for them, 5-10meters all events... Also lighter guys are getting way more injuries, as body doesnt keep up with high weights. Strongmen pre 2010 was way more fun to watch

  • @boostedchicken001
    @boostedchicken001 Місяць тому +3

    Shane had no chance anyway

  • @-Erebus
    @-Erebus Місяць тому +26

    Pretty dull time for the sport :/

    • @josh39684
      @josh39684 Місяць тому +3

      Feels like strongman has taken a massive step back. WSM is going to be joke this year

    • @anthonyproffitt5341
      @anthonyproffitt5341 Місяць тому +8

      @@josh39684
      A step back from what? From rarely being able to watch? There are more top level strongmen today than ever before.

    • @josh39684
      @josh39684 Місяць тому +4

      @anthonyproffitt5341
      In my opinion, despite more strongman content, the sport may be going backward due to inconsistent refereeing, lack of standardization in events, and varying quality of events. These factors can lead to confusion and a less satisfying viewer experience. A big step forward would have wsm be live not aired months later

    • @Micheldied
      @Micheldied Місяць тому +1

      ​@@josh39684 but that's been the case for a lomg time.

    • @thereddog223
      @thereddog223 Місяць тому

      ​@@josh39684 hooper hafthor tom luke ect

  • @andrewchristie2713
    @andrewchristie2713 Місяць тому +2

    Working beyond the bodies natural capacity is asking for trouble, pure and simple 🧃🧃