Strongman Involved In HUGE Bullying Controversy ft. Greg Doucette
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I started watching Greg Doucette's videos over a year ago. At first I was aggrevated by his thumbnails/clickbait and his (over) enthusiastic voice, but as soon as I started actually listening to what he says, I realised, he is an intelligent, well meaning man, who speaks respectfully. Even when he says things, people do not want to hear. He has a case, when he speaks.
I also watched some of Pa O'dwyer's videos, and to me he seems more superficial. It seems like he wants to make fast, fun punchlines. Not an uncommon phenomenon on the social media.......
To me Pa seems far less trust worthy, less well prepared and far more "fast and smart".
As you say, Greg only repeated the female athletes own words about mental health. Greg mentioned it himself, Pa did not care to research, which would have been an easy task. To me, that makes Pa the bully.
Thank you for this important, relevant video/analysis 👍👍👍☀️☀️☀️. Keep up the good work.
Doucette is a worm, and all the info is out there.
There's nothing more you can add to that. That's 100% my opinion.
Let's take a moment to remember that these are grown ass adults
Only physically
As much as Greg Doucette deserves criticism at times, especially his recent decision to double down on turkesterone in spite of the lack of evidence of its efficacy. Pa O'Dwyer is just a below average strongman using online drama to try and stay relevant. Him finishing at the bottom of his group in this year's WSM means he doesn't deserve another invite next year.
I really enjoyed pa O'Dwyer constantly ragging Jamal Browner last year and then getting beat by him at the deadlift championships.
Tbf Pa didn't train until last minute
@@petershortland478 even if he did would he have pulled over 430? i don't think so
@@Vipinnnn17he can tbf. I've seen him hit 440 at his best.
@@julianhernandez6457 His PR at Strongman Archives is 400 so i said it off that since i could care less for his performance
@@petershortland478why talk shit if you didn’t train then?
Vytautas as a bodybuilder would have been fucking crazy. The only dude that was as wide as Hafthor and Shaw.........yet was so much shorter.
Vytautas was as wide as he was tall in his prime. Was crazy.
I thought the C word was a normal word for me as a kid. My dad was born in Ireland and he said that word with probably every sentence around me growing up as a child.😂
Not a fan of Pa, he is clown that gets more opportunities in strongman than he deserves, but I can't see him doing anything wrong here. Greg is eager to comment other people's choices, puts his wisdom nobody asked for, it's kind shitty way to generate clicks. He avoids being negative, he talks quite calmly and in friendly manner but his content is not friendly at all, I would not be surpried if his follwers would behave in negative way towards creators who were the topic point of Greg's videos.
And now Pa comes, says something bad about it, makes the same shitty reaction content, but now death threats are his falut? If you grow enough on any social platform, you will get negativity and threats. Harden your skin, report threats that feel genuine. Crying about "bullying" is a bit childish here.
You know you're doing something seriously wrong when Mike O'Hearn agrees with you.
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Pa is a clown, that only gets into comps by his knob polishing skills
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I totally agree. He’s a douche.
Oh come on man, give him some credit, he must be very good at polishing C.Bryces knob!
100 % 💪 zero talent, just a big mouth 🤡
Pa is a 🤡. Better to ignore him.
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Beta male following the current woke agenda 💯 considering the UK is woke as F
@@torringtonstonekeeperagreed
Pa also had beef with Matt rhodes because Matt said Pa doesn't deserve an invite to Worlds which is true.
A lot of strongmen have issues with Matt I believe, pretty sure even Loz and Liz throw jabs at him.
More than that Matt Rhodes I heard said something about Shane Flowers too
@@petershortland478 he might've, Matt says a lot.
@@kimaboe Matt is no ass Kisser, so therefore he calls out people for their wrongs on strongman, specially those involved in corruption, this means, he has gone hard on Edduard the wall Hall, The Stoltman´s, Collyn Bryce, and... that´s about it. Pa´, been the imbecile he has always been, took the stoltman thing to heart and beefed with matt, therefore Matt destroyed him saying he is not even WSM material. Therefore, Pa´ made a video with Evan Singleton where Evan, dumbly, dissed Matt as if he did not know him... Matt proved Evan, before blowing up, was asking him to promote him, wich Matt did, makinf evan look like an absolute Hipocryte.
Loz and Liz though... yeah, they had jabbed at him but Matt has let them them go easy, as what they´ve said is not on the realm of insulting, they just feel Matt says endangering things to the sport and they want nothing but positive things to the sport. Here, if you ask me, if anything blows, i go with Matt, cause he is the one that has balls for calling the things for what they are whereas Loz and Liz, though great for the sport, rather sweep all the shit under the rough wich is making it look like it never happend, i love´em, but thats´it.
With the rest of strongman Matt has been very encouraging and rather a positive influence in guys like Thor, Mateusz, Martins, and many others. Saddly, guys like Hall, Pa´ or Evan, have more followers and in ocasion make Matt look like a loony while having a pass on their BS
Matt calls it how it is. He got at Shane because he took PA's side that Matt is a cunt
Its about time people leaving negative comments get a taste of their own medicine i say well done Pa
Pa is an embarassment, he can dish it out (badly) but not take it back
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@@torringtonstonekeeper is this Pa's alt account
@@FuriousKAMEX actually it's your mom's account. Beta
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@@torringtonstonekeeper You are either a child or the most pathetic person I've seen in weeks.
Welcome back guys!
Greg is a clown as well. Talks a mean game about behaviors he does himself. So much hypocrisy with him. Fame from PEDs then calls out people for using PEDs.
I think you've oversimplified his position to the pount it might as wellbe a lie
So he can’t be a faulted human being like you and I? And I’m guessing that you’re a saint right?
He readily admits PED use and calls out people who deny it...
Its not hypocritical if you come out and admit you did the same thing, and now with knowledge and experience you realise it is the wrong thing to do, or maybe warn people against it for this and that reason. For instance, he advocates PED for people trying to get to the very very top of body building, because he knows thats what it takes, but at the same time he warns people off it, if getting to the very very top is either unobtainable (genetics) or simply not a goal.
Fair points all. My response is a bit oversimplified and reactionary. I still believe it could have been handled better. Appreciate the input.
great respect to mister lalas for his english skills
not every strongman is able to speak multiple languages and your doing a great job
also you come across as having clever thoughts + you are well spoken and have insights into the sport which makes for great content
12:00 can 100% understand that
bodybuilding is all a glorified subjective beauty contest how can you even judge something objectively if it is all down to subjective judging
there is no such thing as ojective "proportions" or sth like that
500kilos will always be 500 kilos though
The fact that the comments were on her wall is sort of irrelevant though, if the people posting the abuse are coming from Greg's channel. I don't think Greg was trying to send hate her way, but the man has literally 100x her follower numbers, and a decent chunk of those deserve Pa's epithet based on their behaviour, and Greg should probably be a bit mindful of that if he is suspecting that someone is dealing with an ED.
I think Greg is generally a good guy, but the man has very thin skin and is terrified of being cancelled, so when asked to take something down by someone dealing with some personal stuff... instead of just deleting the videos and losing a few thousand views of the millions he's racking up every month, he makes a bigger deal out of it and ramps the hate up to a thousand.
Pa is just a dick, but his response to Greg was surprisingly reasonable even if his video was unnecessary.
Greg shared her video as click bait IMHO. If her original post asked for advice on nutrition etc then sharing and commenting made sense. It didn’t. He just chose to use someone’s struggles as a way to get hits. Turning the comments off means nothing when a bigger account is driving traffic to her page who then shit on her. Why should she have to turn off the comments on her own post just because he shared it. He comes across like a misogynist who thinks he knows everything and a huge hypocrite. Then again Pa is picking bigger accounts lately to grow his own audience too. So maybe everyone is just playing the social media game. Pa may not get a new sponsor but his merch is doing well and he’s now selling songs!
Very well said. Totally agree. 👍
The thing ith Greg Doucettehe "calls out" a lot of people in a negative way, he even did it to Brian Shaw a couple of years ago. His basic message is not bad, however he wants to sell you his diet books and supplements. He calls out everyone for PED use but he himself wa a huge user and also sold them forwhich he was arrested, I think many are using this post to clap aback at him, As for Pa, he should stay out of it.
TBF to Greg, he calls out people for *lying about PED use* not for them using PEDs. He talks openly about being on PEDs, his exact doses etc. and although he seems to generally be of the opinion that you should only take them if you want to compete in untested body building, he doesn't seem to be opposed to that in itself.
He competed for like fifteen years in natural shows before getting on drugs, so he suggests maxing out your natural potential to see where that is, but his issue is with the people pretending you can look like Mike O Hearn without taking steroids, not with steroids.
The “because she wants it” line was super cringey. You can’t make a statement like that. Maybe that’s why I can’t get on his side with this little online spat.
In context he is right.
“You can’t make a statement like that”
Yes you can, he just did….
Lalas your a stand up guy! Standing up for an guy that stand 1:39 up for you. You Lalas are a good man!
Thank you
Thank you for watching 😊🤜🤛
A good topic is do we have any strongman contests to look forward to before Strongest Man on The 3rd Planet From The Sun?
Pa O'Dwyer is just the latest version of what Robert Oberst was trying to do... play the heel, create negative animosity, and stir up controversy. "There's no such thing as bad publicity, as long as they spell your name right"
I think you just made the most insightful comment on the whole thing so far.
Did Oberst take it much outside of strongman? I wasn't paying attention to the sport during his time so I'm just curious
@@lukeroan1719 Oberst was actually a good strongman. Pa is dead last 😂 he just knows how to please Colin with his tongue
@patriknagy5601 true... he hasn't done well internationally and he shouldn't be at worlds! Maybe this year with all the injuries etc but he's top 50 max, way better upping coming guys out there more deserving. He's just a small P energy guy who's clearly mega insecure, he won't ever be top 10 at wsm and gets an invite purely for his mouth.
@@Nagy.Patrik what have you ever done?
PA is just a failed strongman clutching at straws. You guys really break this down very well, it's a shame PA is not capable of understanding it the way you guys do. As for his follower base, I'm surprised there are so many people who like this bottom feeder content.
Cant wait to see all those ppl saying PA is a fail strongman compete a ext wsm....PA surely OHP more than all of them combine, so if he a "fail" i wish id be one too
Can't really say he is failed strongman when he has podiumed comps
@@petershortland478 true, but it is more a reflection on the way he now goes about his business, begging and harassing people for invites is not something a successful sportsman would do. At least not in my eyes
On another note that's one of the best takes on bodybuilding I heard.
If Strongman were the WWF this video would be debating whether Triple H or Vince McMahon is the biggest heel in showbiz.
I think the bottom line here is that she asked Greg to take a video down because it was hurting her, and he refused. And now he's in the same spot because of Pa and he's begging Pa to take his videos down. He's a massive hypocrite.
Personally, i feel context is important, and the fact is that greg is a former ifbb judge who was banned in part because he was talking sexually about female bodybuilders. Sure, maybe pa using that language isn't the smartest thing if he wants sponsors, although it seems like he does not care all that much. But the fact is that greg's track record doesn't speak well for him here.
Pa is not only a clown, but a pretty mid Strongman, I've no idea why he was invited to this years World's... The Gimmick Lion, not the Limerick Lion...
Because there is no irish strongman who are as good as he is
Conection with Stoltmans and therfore Colyn Bryce.
@@antoniocenteno1483 not forgetting he is popular within the fanbase who go, alot of fans like him. We need another reason. Also I can't think of any other strongman who is at his level, Sean Gillan good strongman but got beat by Pa at Britain's, Cillian Groom definitely isn't at Pa's level but he isn't a bad athlete, Cillian has alot of events he is weak to that Pa is strong at also Pa has better deadlift and also better log and quicker when it's to loading and also technical events, until we find a irish strongman that's better than Pa he keeps getting invited
Greg is not a bully. He is a hypocrite, there is a difference....if that dude pees in an IOC cup that cup will melt.
Pa has always been a dork tbh, also if these guys are brothers how come they have different accents?
Why does Pa think he has the right to pass judgement. Pa strikes me as the type to act before he thinks.
Why he was invited to wsm is beyond me. Zero chance of him even getting to the final.
Because he is from Ireland. It is to reinforce the "world" part of World's Strongest Man. Plus, there aren't 30 people capable of winning WSM. There are 5ish competitors that are truly capable of winning... but there needs to be 30 competitors, so... 🤷
Haven't Pa talked a lot of shit online in regards of people doing sumo deadlifts and benching with a high arch? and now he's everybody's online savior?
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Keep up the good work Pa 💪🏻
The Level headness we need.
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I hope she can be healthy and keep eating. I don't really care about this "beef".
You either live to educate and/or spread some good feels, or you do what Pa does.
Maybe Pa isn’t doing this for money or opportunities and rather is doing it just because in which case he can do and say whatever he wants…obviously there are at least 322 thousand of other Instagramers that enjoy his content. Maybe he just wants to freely speak his mind. If so, keep at it Pa I wish you the best and hope you don’t get cancelled/blocked! Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪
As someone who thinks Greg is an obnoxious clown, I don't see what wrong he has committed. In fact, he was considerate enough to turn the comments off on his post.
Yep 🙌
Same.
Pa would be like this, not doing well in strongman, so he’s tryna be relevant
Seems like it
She is way too thin
I agree
Everything falls into water when grown men start using words like "bullying"
More like grown betas. But yeah you're right
Guess mike Tyson isn't a man...
Hell yes thank you man well said!!!
@@nickleback3695. Mike Tyson is mentally ill. Not a good example
Yeah, just call them "asshole" instead
You can't have anorexia and not have mental health issues, anorexia is based in depression my wife suffers from it she has seen a few different health professionals and they have all told her the same thing
Hopefully she can overcome that 🙏
Grey has posted some nasty stuff.
Get matt rhodes on to talk about pa 😂😂
The best "friends" 😂
Ol' Pa is floundering in order to boost his channel IMO, so has taken on this equaliser role. Pretty sad shit all- round, it must be said. If he put the energy into trying to podium in a comp... It's a long shot but, who knows.
Pa is great. He is great for strongman. Greg is a bully that constantly shits on people. I don't feel bad for Greg at all
As many people as many opinions,end of strory let's leave them sort it by themselfs
Pa's stuff is good when it's because he's come across people actually being cunts but imo he does too many looking for something wrong. Like his one on James Smith, whatever you think about him, the advice wasn't anywhere near bad enough to justify a dedicated mockery of it
They are both insufferable in their own right.
I unsubbed from both of them last year. Too much drama generated by both. Greg is a lot better to watch in other channels' videos for some reason.
Only sumo's pull beta..
I have to agree 😂
I've never liked Pa very much. He was one of the first guys repeatedly without being directly involved himself, started defending the Giant's live leadership when it was confirmed that they have sponsored athletes (Most open secret in strongman?) such as Eddie Hall and the Stoltman brothers. If he is such a standup guy, shouldn't he be defending the integrity of the sport? No he immediately went and kissed daddy's ass hoping to get a piece of that sweet ass Giants Live favoured athlete cake. Now he's trying to defend this woman against the horrible bullying Greg Doucette even though he's only saying the blatantly obvious that is there for everyone with a pair of working eyes too see, and took his comments down when requested by her. More likely he's just trying to get more followers/traction on social media by hating on Greg Doucette, a truly inspired move never tried by anyone else recently 😲 (And I don't even particularly like Greg either for that matter) .
I love strongman Ive been a fan since 1999 and will forever be a fan, but bullying is childish , and to be honest I do see Greg and pa both as bullies to be honest, and i dont like either greg or pa, and I see pa doing the videos he does , is just to get followers, and he often makes videos " backing up" those who have a decent following, to get more subs, and that is my genuine opinion, also a year or so ago he had like 50k followers so hes doing this just doing this to get a following, and so this sport keep inviting him to shows cause he has following, similar to when they invited wheels cause he has a following, cause i know sports invite those with followings, inorder to get more eyes on the sport, and i dont agree what pa on what hes doing at all, it's embarrassing, I see them both as childish, and greg is a narcissist who always has to moan about something to slyly get views and promote his stuff, but the sport itself I completely love , apart from the odd negativity here and there.
Everyone hates Pa
In Pa's comment sections, they love him 😊
Lads you have just thrown him under the bus a bit there highlighting the fact. I mean we no dont we Paddy is a diamond bloke . I also no you ment no harm . Enjoyed the post thou and thats the whole idea i guess.
I generally don’t like how Pa presents himself and don’t think it’s funny.
I'm surprised how many people are attacking Pa and not Greg in the comments lol. Not that I'm trying to back Pa or anything, but Greg was being a dick and has said a lot of dumb shit and tried to stir controversy plenty of times as well.
PA is just being a dick for the sake of being a dick. Also takes things way out of context. Gregs post was simply misguided, in so far as he is correct in what he says, but perhaps with his huge following, should keep away from smaller content creators, and he needs to be better aware of how his posts can affect others.
Pa is a below-average strongman, and that's on his best day. Greg is actually giving people advice and knowledge that can and will help them to become healthier and live better lives.
Greg > Pa (every damn day)
I'm not on Social media, I'm retired and have no interest or time to see what all these attention seeking knobs are doing. I did follow Pa for a while on UA-cam but very quickly unfollowed as it gets a bit boring when a grown man constantly talks about his knob, what is he 12? Love the channel guys but did struggle to get through this one.
Sorry but looking at her video it is obvious that she is not eating enough. Greg calls that out. Its what reaction videos are all about. Greg is a former IFBB bodybuilder and a coach, so he knows the dangers of EDs. He know s the dangers of not eating enough and speaks on those regularly. He most likely suffers from one himself.
Over all I would say Greg is in a position of expertise to speak on the subject.
I really can not find fault with Greg on this one.
Pa on the other hand....
Pa who?
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I can’t stand Pa. He was less of a moron as ESM which was nice. I think he just went after Greg for attention. Greg seems like a decent guy. I didn’t see any of this drama before your video.
Just so you guys know, Greg uses speech to text which explains his horrible $#@%$ grammar.
I really don't care. Pass
Ok, hopefully next video will be more relevant for you.
Okay I’ve listened to more of this now and while I stand by the underlying theme of being pro free speech in my first comment below, I have swayed totally against Pa. And this isn’t surprising behavior from him; us strongman fans know this guy’s personality. Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪
Greg is an attention seeking passive aggressive bully. Pa says it like it is.
I've never liked O'Dwyer, but he is the only strongman I don't like.
Oberst was a bit of a dick too. Insecure in his over inflated abilities just like PA. Also just like PA, happy to talk shit about others.
I think all 3 are being bullies in their own way. I respected Pa for standing up for her and putting Greg in his place. But then I watched Greg’s response video and most of it made sense. The part that sucks for her is he brought up her mental illness and he also stressed that people shouldn’t hire her as a coach because she doesn’t even coach herself properly. True or not…that’s pretty harsh and falls under bullying. But I like Greg and ai don’t think he’s doing it to bring her down. That’s just him being honest and sharing his experience and knowledge. I wish he would’ve just been over in his response and apologized if he appeared to be bullying her but had no bad intentions. As far as taking the video down…that’s up to him. I probably would.
I don’t really like either of them, but Pa tries to come off as a white knight and it just seems so soft.
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As an Irishman I want to see an Irish lad actually competing for titles not doing what Pa does, arguably he can be entertaining, but any Irish Strongman should focus on winning titles. I would if I was at international level
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Don’t like either. I didn’t like Greg before. Pa seems like an a$$. Greg gets a few more points for at least attempting to articulate his points. Pa’s intelligence is suspect since he cannot articulate past a word that starts with C. Really bad word in America, btw.
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People watch the highlights of Greg's videos and do not hear the message he sends. He wants to raise awareness and brings information to light. Greg is a good coach and better person
Half of what he says is either needless negativity or blatant misinformation. He's an extreme hypocrite and an attention whore.
I’ve followed Greg since 2016 when he didn’t used to speak all hyper all the time and when he coined the phrase “Just don’t be a Pussy and Train Harder Than Last Time” and I think he is overall a great influencer with good solid intentions. But he also pisses me off so much as he does utilize the whole click bate approach and will say some seriously dumb shit just for views. But end of day I respect and value him. Marine Mike 🇺🇸 💪
This is dumb. Can we talk about competition predictions or results or training or anything else sports related? Were adults now. This is high school drama.
Pas videos are so painfully unfunny i dont get the hype. But not a huge greg fan he seems to be having a midlife crisis
I don't like Pa. He messes up most videos he interrupts. His foul language isn't good for any young person to see. I'd rather clean language in everything.
I agree
From what I've seen of coach Greg, he is the furthest thing from a bully.
Greg made an honest but bad call and then doubled down on it. Pa is doing the world a service by calling him out.
Pa should be more concerned with the Africanization and Muslimification of Ireland.
What ae you shitting about you muppet!
ED is not eating disorder. It’s universally known as Erectile Disfunction
Are you speaking from experience?
@@michaelfrench9062 Thankfully, no
Greg is a really good guy. Pa is a fuckin awesome dude. Weak beta stuff is a joke
Betas hit the thumbs down
Lol pa is definitely not a awesome guy
@@curvinh6289got vip tickets to a giants live a few years ago. Everyone was super friendly. Except pa hes a manchild
@@curvinh6289 your definitely a beta male
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