Ol trick I read about somewhere that helps regarding wearing shoes in a sleeping bag- put the boots you're wearing into a plastic or paper bag, then stick them into the sleeping bag- the rubber won't catch on the bag, and your feet will pop out stupid slick. Not to mention, it's a crummy plastic or paper bag- so it won't hinder movement. If you need to bust out quick, you don't have to worry about ripping the bag- it's a crappy plastic or paper.
Two sandbags in your kit for pulling over your boots before going in the bag. You can wear them in an emergency or pull them off. Plus you got them for hide construction.
Great information. I used almost the exact system a couple of nights ago. It is simple, fairly light, and durable, and makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
Pretty much mirrors my experience using this exact same system. If I know it’s going to be colder I’ll use the mss winter bag in place of the jungle bag. I’ve slept exactly like you demonstrated in the patrol bag and it’s chilly once it gets below freezing. The winter bag I’ve gone down to minus 10*c in skivvies and was cool but slept fine. Anything colder than that I take a Carinthia defence 4 and a klymit static V insulated inflatable as well as the bivvy and z-fold thermarest, with that combo I have slept down to -20*C in base layers , fleece sweat pants and sweater, beanie and socks and was warm as toast.
The russian bomber hat is legit. I keep one in my MSS so I can put that on and not have to close the hood. I sleep by my rifle because I feel a bit exposed in a bivy. I use a solar battery motion tripb flood light as an early warning system. When the light comes on time to pick up the rifle and not in 5 minites like 5 minites ago is more like it.
Everyone in a combat corps in the Australian army sleeo in bivi bags. They have a mosquito net sewn in and its coated to help with hiding from thermal imagers while you sleep
Something g to consider, if you put the rifle in the bag with you when it’s cold outside, when you take it out your glass will fog up and you won’t be able to aim properly, better to leave it outside for this reason.
I love my surplus sleep system. I got mine on eBay about 10 years ago for $60 because the black bag had a few cigarette burn marks on it that didn’t effect the functionality of it.
I may be a princess but after sleeping on the forest floor in the southern US in the summer many times, I would recommend a bug net, cut in half to wrap around the upper portion of your bag.
@@PewLandweight on my scale is lil over a pound I dnt have a more accurate scale srry that’s for the midi version they have a full size and wide sizes too all that weigh more tho
@@misfitlife3091 That's not bad, I don't have to worry about R value because I live in the frigid arctic state of Florida...I could see that being important in colder climates.
Just picked up one of these bivy bags. Can't wait to use it. On a side note, what is the coyote coloured hooded jacket at 04:24 please? Ive been through your kit lists and can't find it😂. ATB, Paul.
Its a great piece of kit! The jacket is a Beyond Clothing Light Softshell L5 Jacket. Unfortunately, it has been discontinued. Which is why I don't mention it in my gesr lists.😔
watched quite a few of your videos, very informative and great job... but i do have to ask, why is your rifle not Kyrlon'd/como'd. that thing sticks out like a sore thumb! throw some paint on that guy!
Video idea for you. Gear purchase order. Training aside, what order would you recommend the prepared citizen spends purchase items in. I have seen a void on UA-cam regarding this topic. For people starting the journey I think it could be immensely helpful. Love the channel, found you recently and I've been listening to your videos while I work. You and brass facts have the best content as far as I'm concerned. Keep it up! Best wishes to you and the family.
I carry 2 polyester sandbags in my ruck so if I have to sleep with my boots on and they're wet then I can slip those over my boots and not get my sleeping bag wet.
Which is hardest to handle, very cold rain around freezing point. Or 20 below freezing, when all the water is frozen and dry. Can you stuff a soaking wet bivy bag? How do you keep your inner bag dry when stuffing in cold, wet conditions?
I personally would take cold over rain. Rain soaks everything, and it takes time to dry gear out. Cold is just cold. I attach wet items to the exterior of my pack via shock cord. Ultimately, how do you keep things dry in wet environments... you don't. Everything is going to get wet it's just a fact. Misery is almost guaranteed.
Even though it's not the biggest threat a soldier will face, I always wonder how do military personnel deal with ticks or other insects from entering their sleep system?
I coat mine sleep system and clothes with Sawyer permethrin spray. It has worked extremely well for me. To the point, guys around me had 8+ ticks on them throughout the day, and I had ZERO. No joke. Very impressed. amzn.to/4a17IAS
Why would you bother cutting a few sections off your sleeping mat when the most obvious weight upgrade would be a new sleeping bag or quilt? The MSS is very heavy, I've made a woobie/quilt out of nylon fabric and climashield apex insulation that is significantly warmer and lighter than the patrol bag, and with the quilt design doesn't even need to be zipped up. It weighs 25oz compared to the patrol bag's 40oz and packs smaller too.
Every little bit helps. Sure, you can get quilts that are 22oz rated to 20°F but they are $300-$500 (Enlightened equipment or Hyperlite mountain gear.) That's more then the price of the entire 4 piece MSS. I'm not at the point of spending that on an intermediate sleep system.
Awesome man! Some viewers sent me over. Can't believe you weren't already on my radar.
Thanks, I appreciate it. Just a normal dude doing stuff on YT lol. I do enjoy your content aswell!
Ol trick I read about somewhere that helps regarding wearing shoes in a sleeping bag- put the boots you're wearing into a plastic or paper bag, then stick them into the sleeping bag- the rubber won't catch on the bag, and your feet will pop out stupid slick. Not to mention, it's a crummy plastic or paper bag- so it won't hinder movement. If you need to bust out quick, you don't have to worry about ripping the bag- it's a crappy plastic or paper.
Two sandbags in your kit for pulling over your boots before going in the bag. You can wear them in an emergency or pull them off. Plus you got them for hide construction.
The best poncho-poncho liner system is sold by Wilderness Innovation. I’ve slept well in it down to 24 degrees Fahrenheit. It is expensive.
Same system I use when rucking as it's too large for an assault pack.
Got mine on eBay for 90 bucks about 12 years ago in excellent condition. Love it
Great information. I used almost the exact system a couple of nights ago. It is simple, fairly light, and durable, and makes sense. Thanks for sharing.
My cold-weather preparation is a reservation at Holiday Inn express for a two queen size bed room. Preferably breakfast included. 😂😂😂
Pretty much mirrors my experience using this exact same system. If I know it’s going to be colder I’ll use the mss winter bag in place of the jungle bag. I’ve slept exactly like you demonstrated in the patrol bag and it’s chilly once it gets below freezing. The winter bag I’ve gone down to minus 10*c in skivvies and was cool but slept fine. Anything colder than that I take a Carinthia defence 4 and a klymit static V insulated inflatable as well as the bivvy and z-fold thermarest, with that combo I have slept down to -20*C in base layers , fleece sweat pants and sweater, beanie and socks and was warm as toast.
The russian bomber hat is legit. I keep one in my MSS so I can put that on and not have to close the hood. I sleep by my rifle because I feel a bit exposed in a bivy. I use a solar battery motion tripb flood light as an early warning system. When the light comes on time to pick up the rifle and not in 5 minites like 5 minites ago is more like it.
A modern ranger roll, but more comfy. Thx for the vid PA
Everyone in a combat corps in the Australian army sleeo in bivi bags. They have a mosquito net sewn in and its coated to help with hiding from thermal imagers while you sleep
Something g to consider, if you put the rifle in the bag with you when it’s cold outside, when you take it out your glass will fog up and you won’t be able to aim properly, better to leave it outside for this reason.
You can’t let Gunny take your rifle while you’re sleeping 😂 better in the bag.
(Laughs in iron sights)
With leg through sling😂
Laser Beam.... the green one. no backup sight.
@@PewLand Laser Beam sight.... the green one. Even the cheap one from Amazon works great at night for predator defence. No backup sight.
Excellent info! Thanks for the video! Always look forward to your content!
I love my surplus sleep system. I got mine on eBay about 10 years ago for $60 because the black bag had a few cigarette burn marks on it that didn’t effect the functionality of it.
great info! A ruck dump vid would be helpful as well.
“Cold” weather 30 to 50 deg…
*laughs in Canadian*
When your trying to sleep outside, especially when it’s wet, absolutely cold. Anyone could die in conditions that cold without proper gear & training.
I may be a princess but after sleeping on the forest floor in the southern US in the summer many times, I would recommend a bug net, cut in half to wrap around the upper portion of your bag.
BINGO- great tip. You can also drape a bug jacket over the top as well.
where is the woobie ? must have the blanket for any outdoor system.
It's too heavy to integrate with any sleep system under 50 degrees F. It's also not nessesary if you already have a sleeping bag rated to 30 degrees.
Love it keep em comin
Excellent. BTW, have you ever used a hammock system, such as warbonnet? Just curious.
Great video. Thanks for the insight
Literally just tested out a sleep system on a “patrol” a couple days ago at 50 degrees
My military friends say METTC, I just say "It depends" 😂
Have you tried the midi mat from snugpak it’s a self inflating mat n I think has a better r value than the z lite
Inflatable + soldier = popped sleeping pad 😂
@@PewLandthat’s the great thing about it it’s self inflating foam so even if it’s popped it still works
@@misfitlife3091 Sounds pretty cool. I wonder how the weight is compared to a regular foam sleeping pad.
@@PewLandweight on my scale is lil over a pound I dnt have a more accurate scale srry that’s for the midi version they have a full size and wide sizes too all that weigh more tho
@@misfitlife3091 That's not bad, I don't have to worry about R value because I live in the frigid arctic state of Florida...I could see that being important in colder climates.
Just picked up one of these bivy bags. Can't wait to use it. On a side note, what is the coyote coloured hooded jacket at 04:24 please? Ive been through your kit lists and can't find it😂. ATB, Paul.
Its a great piece of kit!
The jacket is a Beyond Clothing Light Softshell L5 Jacket. Unfortunately, it has been discontinued. Which is why I don't mention it in my gesr lists.😔
@@PreparedAirman thank you....discontinued like most good things🫠
watched quite a few of your videos, very informative and great job... but i do have to ask, why is your rifle not Kyrlon'd/como'd. that thing sticks out like a sore thumb! throw some paint on that guy!
Video idea for you. Gear purchase order. Training aside, what order would you recommend the prepared citizen spends purchase items in. I have seen a void on UA-cam regarding this topic. For people starting the journey I think it could be immensely helpful.
Love the channel, found you recently and I've been listening to your videos while I work. You and brass facts have the best content as far as I'm concerned. Keep it up! Best wishes to you and the family.
I carry 2 polyester sandbags in my ruck so if I have to sleep with my boots on and they're wet then I can slip those over my boots and not get my sleeping bag wet.
Maybe I missed it, but what type of pack are you using?
hyperlite mountain gear
Thanks!@@airspaceincursion
Which is hardest to handle, very cold rain around freezing point. Or 20 below freezing, when all the water is frozen and dry.
Can you stuff a soaking wet bivy bag?
How do you keep your inner bag dry when stuffing in cold, wet conditions?
I personally would take cold over rain. Rain soaks everything, and it takes time to dry gear out. Cold is just cold. I attach wet items to the exterior of my pack via shock cord. Ultimately, how do you keep things dry in wet environments... you don't. Everything is going to get wet it's just a fact. Misery is almost guaranteed.
Even though it's not the biggest threat a soldier will face, I always wonder how do military personnel deal with ticks or other insects from entering their sleep system?
I coat mine sleep system and clothes with Sawyer permethrin spray. It has worked extremely well for me. To the point, guys around me had 8+ ticks on them throughout the day, and I had ZERO. No joke. Very impressed.
amzn.to/4a17IAS
How does putting a rifle into a warmer climate and then pulling it out into cold *not* cause it to accumulate condensation and then freeze?
Why would you bother cutting a few sections off your sleeping mat when the most obvious weight upgrade would be a new sleeping bag or quilt? The MSS is very heavy, I've made a woobie/quilt out of nylon fabric and climashield apex insulation that is significantly warmer and lighter than the patrol bag, and with the quilt design doesn't even need to be zipped up. It weighs 25oz compared to the patrol bag's 40oz and packs smaller too.
Every little bit helps. Sure, you can get quilts that are 22oz rated to 20°F but they are $300-$500 (Enlightened equipment or Hyperlite mountain gear.) That's more then the price of the entire 4 piece MSS.
I'm not at the point of spending that on an intermediate sleep system.