It's important to realise that the book(s) are pretty much the origin of almost all modern fantasy literature. Nearly any trope you see in the fantasy genre, originated here.
These movies are based on thousands of pages of literature. To cut it down into 3-4 hours each was quite a feat. So I’ll have to disagree that some scenes should’ve been cut out. Though you may not think they’re needed for this film, they’re still needed for the story as a whole.
I know they were probably unaware that these were a book 1st and then a Trilogy of movies, THAT BEING SAID, for those that do comment about the length of the Jackson trilogies particularly the extended editions I do tend to recommend watching The Animated versions by Bass/Bakshi/Bass which basically took thirteen or so hundred pages down to around 5 hours in length( which is only about one and a quarter of the length of the Jackson films).
Are they needed? Does the story fall apart without it and fail? The extended version shows how unnecessary parts can be. Only a couple scenes should’ve been added while others could be cut.
@@athens_1psvr31 All scenes in the theatrical version were needed - I think that’s what they watched. Scenes in extended version add context and background for characters which is never a bad thing. I’ve watched reactions for both editions & reactors who have more unanswered questions after watching Return of the King are the ones who stuck to the initial theatrical version. Regardless, either version is available. I just think it’s a bit shortsighted to make that remark when one hasn’t finished the series yet. They have no idea what is and isn’t relevant.
The ring was designed to entrap those who desire power, all Hobbits want is to grow things and lead a simple pain free life with joy and have no need for power of any kind. They are about love and community not fame and fortune so they are not tempted by it. That is how Bilbo had it for so long without doing anything evil with it except the desire to keep it at the end
Gandalf: You didn’t think I’d miss your Uncle Bilbos birthday?!” The Reactors: “Do you think it’s his son? 60 years maybe it’s his grandfather” All within 5 seconds of eachother 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
This movies are based on a book that has been written during the first half of the 1940s, by a former veteran of the first world War. He sent the single captures, one at a time, to his son, who was a soldier on the front lines, during WW2. He did that to help his son. To give him a little escape, from the horrors of the front. In the end, that book turned out to been massive, more that 1000 pages long. The author - JRR Tolkien - wanted to publish it, when the war was over. But, in this hard times, paper was not as available as it is today. So he needed to separate his story in three parts. In order to publish them, one after another. If the first one turned out to be successful. The Lord of the Rings became one of the most beloved most and most successful books, of all time. Millions of people red Tolkien's story, over the last nine decades, and Peter Jackson used it to create one of the most successful movie trilogy... again, of all time.
Tolkien wrote it from 1936 to 1949, and the only part of it that was originally letters to his son (in South Africa, with the RAF) was the journey of Frodo/Sam from the end of the first film until he gets to Mordor.
The movies are masterpieces but they do Isildur some injustice. In the books, while he does succumb to the seduction of the ring, he spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave some power away instead of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails. In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil
Makes sense; in the books the waters are connected to Ulmo & the waters themselves; containing echoes of the Songs Of The Ainur(Ainulindalë) that ended up creating the world as a byproduct including all that happens within it until the world gets remade a second/third time.
Bilbo was Frodo's uncle. His parents died in a tragic accident (alluded to in the extended cut of the film). LOL at 25.29, "Elvis medicine", surely would be some fatal cocktail of tranquilizers, heart-disease tablets, and laxatives! (Or if it were the other Elvis, it'd be heminevrin or similar). At 29.20, in the book Bilbo was there, just as an interviewee, and it was never as argumentative as in the film. (Actually there's a ton of exposition at the Council that's either not in the film at all, or hinted at, and/or relocated) At 50.30, that glimpse of the future does indeed happen in the book.
What makes Hobbits so special is that they desire nothing, they already live a life of peace and quiet from the outside world of the shire. They care not other than their own life and business. It's why the ring had very little sway over Frodo, the best advice I can give without spoiling too much is try to keep an eye on frodo on his attitude and emotions from all of the three films combined how he went from the first to the second to the third.
I don't think you'll find many people who agree with you that scenes could be cut out! On the contrary the vast majority of LotR fans will strongly recommend that you watch the extended editions which will give you a better understanding of the story.
Just in case I didn’t mention this yet. The hobbits aren’t kids. Here are their ages along with the other characters! current ages of the characters: Frodo Baggins is 53. Samwise Gamgee is 38. Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry) is 36. Peregrin Took (Pippin) is 28. Gandalf (Olòrin) - is 15,000 (in his current form. Aragorn is 87. Legolas is 2,931. Gimli is 139. Boromir son of Denethor II is 41! Arwen(Elrond’s Daughter) is around 3,777 years old by this exact era the films were set in! I hope that helps! Elves aged differently than men and dwarves. They did not suffer from old age or disease, and their lives were not limited by a fixed number of years. Instead, they aged very slowly, remaining youthful and vigorous for much longer than mortals. Though they could voluntarily leave their bodies and the ultimate thing that can kill them is grief or Sorrow that’s palpable enough for them to just not wish to live anymore. Here are the ages of some of the main Elves of the Third Age, as of the War of the Ring: 1. Elrond Half-elven - over 8,586 while his daughter is 3,777 old! 2. Galadriel - around 20,000 3. Celeborn - 20,000; he may have been alive before her birth or around the same time as his lineage that he lived amongst his forefathers and kin might suggest he is older but they are both very ancient. 4. Glorfindel - over 2,000 (although he had been re-embodied after dying in the First Age which means his Fëa spirit is far older than 2000.) 5. Thranduil (you’ll see him in the hobbit films - is reaching 8000+ as he was born in the First Age and lived in Doriath with his father Oropher; Thranduil is also the father of Legolas. (As Haldir mentioned him when speaking to Legolas in Lothlòrien during the first movie’s extended scene. He shares the same kindred elven clan as to Celeborn(Galadriel’s husband). It's worth noting that Elves could choose to die voluntarily, usually when they grew weary of life or when they had fulfilled their purpose in the world. However, their spirits would then depart to the Halls of Mandos and could eventually be re-embodied in a new body I meant to add that Frodo was 51 when he left due to the whole Gandalf coming back to the shire after many years. that explains why his youthful appearance didn’t change much throughout the entire film!
Khazad-dûm (“Mansions of the Dwarves”), called Moria (“Black Pit”) in Elvish, is the ancient tribal capital of the Dwarves. Twenty years earlier, an expedition led by Gimli’s uncles and cousins had retaken Moria from the orcs, but nothing had been heard of them for thirteen years, and Gimli was hoping someone would still be alive. Lady Galadriel had taken the trouble not only to learn the Dwarven name, but the proper pronunciation (most Elves could only manage “Hadhodrond”). She did this as a peace offering to Gimli, to try to make friends with the Dwarves, who had been in a Cold War with the Elves for hundreds of years.
(You missed this from extended) The song heard when the elves were spotted in the forest by Frodo&Sam near the beginning of the movie: here is the song the Elves were singing & chanting a very special Hymn along their journey:(English translation too) * Á Elbereth Gilthoniel “o Elbereth who lit the stars” * silivren penna míriel “from glittering crystal slanting falls with light like jewels” * Ò menel aglar elenath “from heaven on high the glory of the starry host” * na-chaered palan-díriel “to lands remote I have looked afar” ò galadhremmin ennorath “from tree-tangled middle-lands” * Fanuilos, le linnathon “and now to thee, Fanuilos, bright spirit clothed in ever-white, I will ... sing” * nef aear, sí nef aearon “here ... beyond the Sea, beyond the wide and sundering Sea” * Ã Elbereth Gilthoniel² “o Elbereth who lit the stars” * Ò menel palan-diriel “from heaven gazing far” * le nallon sí di’nguruthos “here overwhelmed in dread of Death I cry” * Á tiro nin, Fanuilos “o guard me, Elbereth” (Elbereth Gilthoniel is one of the main Valar who are of the main group of entities known as the Ainur who sang the world into being and helped shaped it further from within after some entered into the young world. She is most loved & honoured by the elves for many reasons) It’s very important as regarding the elves history that spanned over 40,000+ years. Because even one of the three high kings within Valinor was 30,000 years old well before the third age. Galadriel is his granddaughter just do you know. Yeah. She’s very important throughout the entire histories. They are passing away with what’s left of their kin to the undying lands. Many thousands had their home in middle earth just like the high kings ancestors that woke to the stars. Their birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. You’d love to react to the immersive and entertaining lore videos like moviejoob & OmarioRPG have done. It’s ever vast and rewarding to let touch your soul.❤❤❤❤ Varda is a Quenya name of Valarin origin meaning "Sublime", "Exalted" or "Lofty" Elbereth is name given to her by the elves meaning ‘Star Lady’ Gilthoniel essentially means Star Kindler An original title of Varda, meaning 'the Kindler', and deriving from her making of the first faint stars in ancient times which was to light the dark world which had no sun yet and they loomed over the original Dark Lord (Fallen Valar named Morgoth by the elves) who he feared most above all even as supposedly he was the mightiest and first of all Ainur to ever exist (Ainur is the ultimate race of both Maiar and Valar) When, long afterwards, she used the dews of Telperion(one of the two sacred trees that predated the Moon of which it birthed later on) to kindle brighter stars still, this surname seems to have fallen out of favour. After that time she was called instead Elentári, the Queen of the Stars.
MUCH deeper lore version with added details for you: Galadriel's gift to Gimli has deeper meaning behind it, like most things in this movie & reflects the expanded lore of the middle earth universe. Galadriel is one of the 2-3 most powerful & wise elves remaining in Middle Earth since the time the land was young. She was born in a place called Valinor, or the Undying land... which is basically the place of residence of the Valar, the local pantheon, the local "gods" as you may call them. Back then, the world was not illuminated by the sun, the moon and the stars, but rather by 2 trees of gold and silver, Telperion and Laurëlin that lit the world before the sun & moon were born from their last flower and fruit as they were basically killed by Melkor. It is said that Galadriel's hair had somehow captured some of the shine of those two trees. Her uncle Fëanor, who was a great king of the Elven people & also arguably their greatest craftsman to ever live, asked/demanded that she give him a lock of hair, so that he could use it to fashion 3 gems that would shine of the same light as the trees. Sensing his pride & a shadow that wasn’t exactly belonging to him brewing from within, she refused his request 3 times. He stopped asking and made the gems anyway, managing to complete the task he had set for himself even without her hair. Around these 3 gems, the possession of which became the driving force for many of the great events in the world, entire wars that lasted for centuries exploded, and other events. The gems actively shaped the fate of the races of middle earth to the point that the aforementioned Valar got involved directly. During these times, events surrounding the gems brought about the traditional enmity between Dwarves and Elves... the same enmity that Gimli still feels towards them. That enmity however does not survive his encounter with the wise Galadriel, whom Gimli basically falls platonically in love with. By giving him 3 of her hair, Galadriel is opening a door, offering an olive branch that might one day close the gap that divides these two races. Legolas, himself being an Elven prince and centuries old, knows of the story through his father Thranduil & grandfather Oropher, as it shaped the lives of all Elves, and his subtle smile is possibly the first act of acknowledgment and reconciliation. it is also a way for Peter Jackson, the director of the film, to give a nod to all of the fans who know these facts and backstories... a way to make us feel seen, and to make us appreciate just how deeply the makers of the film respect the books and larger universe created by Tolkien. The thing with the hair may seem weird, but there is a significance to it in real life as well as in the lore of the story. In real life, it was not uncommon for wives, fiancés, or even girlfriends to give their men (who were going off to war), a lock of their hair as a keepsake, particularly in WWI, which Tolkien fought in. The lore part of it comes into play in The Silmarillion, Tolkien's tales of the creation of Arda, the Undying Lands of Valinor, and Middle Earth. Galadriel is many, many thousands of years old, & was born in Valinor before the sun & moon were even created. At the time, the world was lit by two trees, one gold and one silver which would shine at different times from each other, but would shine together once a day when one would fade and the other brighten. Galadriel's hair was said to look like the light of the mingled light from the two trees, which may have inspired Feanor, a master craftsman and heir to the high king of the Noldor, to craft the Silmaril's which were three jewels that captured the light of the two trees, one golden light, one silver light, & one co-mingled light. Fëanor had a bit of a thing for Galadriel and begged her for her hair three different times, which she rejected because she could perceive the inner darkness of his heart and rejected him, which made them "un-friends" after that. There is a lot more to the lore than that, so this is the super crib-notes version. But the point is, it was VERY significant that she granted Gimli three of her hairs to a dwarf, when she would not to the son of her king many 10s of thousands of years ago of which she is related to all three kings who were brothers and Elu Thingol of Doriath was one of the brothers that didn’t stay in Valinor even though he was one of the elven ambassadors along with his three brothers and that king I mentioned was VERY close friends with Thingol) ever wondered how old Galadriel is during the War of the Ring? I have looked in many different sources and depending on where you look, she’s anywhere from 17,000-20,000 years old. 6,000 seems too young as it would make her close in age to Elrond, who I know is much younger than her even though he’s 6000-8000 by the third age, which wouldn’t make sense for her at all even if she was (“690 years older” as some kept repeating on the internet making 6960!)As she was around long before Elrond was even born and time was experience differently to say the LEAST as there is a lot to go into on that subject lol.) She was born during the Years of the Trees & back then the years were something like 9X longer than a solar year so I understand the math is hard, especially since she isn’t given an exact birth year. But it is said that Finarfin, her father, was born in Y.T. 1230, so I would assume she was born sometime within 1000 years of then (being generous). Basically, I’m wondering what the most accurate range is for her age during the events of Lord of the Rings. I’ll also add that Galadriel is was around before the ents even existed (of which Treebeard is 15,000 years old so she’s OLDER than Treebeard/Fangorn) or very close to when they were “created” by Yavannah and probably had much knowledge to do with such things and or direct knowledge of what happened. Probably through an early prototype of her mirror or simply another dream that made her long for middle earth all over again ontop of the yearning she already had to go there and explore. Nothing to do with Fëanor’s oath and all that jazz. Just going from the Appendices (and maybe Silmarillion) she would have to be at least 9000+ years older than Elrond, Elrond was born near the end of the First Age, Galadriel was adult before the destruction of the Trees. Actually, more than that: I just checked, and the Second Age ended in SA 3441. So an elf born literally at the end of the First Age (FA 590) is 3441+3018 = 6459 years old when Frodo leaves for Rivendell. Elrond was born in FA 532, so adds 58 years to get 6517. Elves are mature at 100, so Galadriel adds at leas 632 to Elrond's age, to be at least 7149, and possibly quite a bit more (as attested by other comments.) One fic had Maglor(Elrond’s Adoptive Father, Maedhros was also adoptive father alongside Maglor, they were the eldest sons of Fëanor) - One fic had as much older than Galadriel; I wondered how we knew, and it was pointed out to me that Maglor was the second oldest son of the first son of Finwë, while Galadriel is the youngest child of the third son of Finwë. So, yeah. Note that the second age was the LONGEST and again time was experienced very differently back then too aside from the internal clock of elves working very differently, she’s definitely older as far as the world and the other beings that age far faster around her. I also remind you all that she’s older than the sun and the moon and witnessed and most likely even helped in the Valar’s crafting of the last fruit and flower of the two trees of Valinor. She was the most involved with learning everything possible from them. She’s 25th generation from Tata one of the elven forefathers to wake to the stars. Their birth was rather shrouded in mist. Only those of her grandfathers ilk have a chance of knowing the origins a bit better as they are closer to that culture that stemmed from the beginning. The Years of the Trees were the second of the three great time periods in Arda that followed the Years of the Lamps and preceded the Years of the Sun&Moon. They were known to be comprised of several Ages and lasted in total around 1500 Valian Years or 14,373 solar years. Time flowed differently back then and time flowed differently within them too for the elves live as long as the world does. Epic hey?❤❤ The Dúnedain said that Galadriel’s height was two rangar, or "man-high" - some 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm). However, Galadriel's most striking feature was her beautiful long silver-golden hair. The Elves of Tirion said it captured the radiance of the Two Trees Laurelin and Telperion themselves. Galadriel was said to be the tallest female in Middle Earth, at 6'4”. But then Thingol was the tallest elf ever to live, and he's estimated to be almost 9' (274 cm) Thingol was also a very very prominent figure within the Silmarillion and other books. He’s the great ancestor of Elrond+Arwen and through Aragorn being directly but distantly related to Elronds Twin Brother Elros it makes him loosely connected to Thingol as well. Let’s just say he died a tragic death long long ago. I’m a continent that doesn’t exist anymore. The events I spoke of in my earlier story of Elrond about his fathers deeds, which lead to the Valar helping with putting a Stop to Morgoth for good so to say and that War Of Wrath lasted 80 years straight and it left the landmass torn asunder from the clash of gods and the holy host of Vanyar elves that were closest to the Valar than all other elves so you can imagine what a bunch of mighty elves men and Maiar fighting a bunch of fowl creatures and beings for 80 years would do to a continent. It all fell into the sea. Galadriel barely made it over the mountain before that part of the story officially broke out.
The more power a person has, the more they desire the ring, and the more they are corrupted. Gandalf and Galadriel, two of the most powerful beings in Middle-Earth, have a serious craving for it, but understanding its power they resist it. Notice that in Bilbo's house Gandalf is afraid to even touch it, for fear he will not be able to let it go again. The hobbits are able to resist its power best, because of all the races they desire power the least.
An explanation about hobbits might help you cut the guys some slack. Most hobbits have mostly lived in isolation preferring not to have anything to do with "the big folk". They have no idea what's going on outside of The Shire so our 4 companions hace no concept of the danger they're heading into. Hobbits aren't considered adults until they turn 33. Because they had to rearrange things to skip the 17 years that passed while Gandalf was looking for info on the ring people don't understand the ages of our 4 hobbits. When they leave the Shire, Frodo is 50, Sam is 38, Merry is 36 and Pippin is 29. Pippin is basically the equivalent of a teenager. Yes. Gandalf the Grey died.
From Bag-End to Mount Doom in Mordor is 1350 miles (2172.61 kilometers), or about 440 hrs walking. From London, England to Nîs, Serbia. From Los Angeles, California to Austin, Texas for Americans.
You asked why Strider was carrying four little swords around to hand out to the Hobbits. Good question! In the book, the Hobbits had various adventures on the way to Bree that were omitted from the movie, and in the process they acquired four swords that they carried from then on. Frodo's sword broke under him when confronting the Nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen (in the book, Arwen wasn't there), and Bilbo gave him Sting as a replacement.
They're actually given to them by another character in the book, but that character isn't in these movies, so Strider was the one who gave these swords to them. They are actually ancient swords that were made by Strider/Aragorn's long past ancestors thousands of years prior.
Yes, but an elf who casually took on a Balrog during the first age would've sucked ALL THE MOVIE tension out of the theater. Glorfindel's exclusion makes narrative sense
@@bemasaberwyn55Glorfindel didn't do enough in the books to force his way into the movies. Tolkien didn't choose to have one of the most powerful elf warriors join the fellowship, so it's not surprising he was replaced by Legolas in the cartoon and Arwen in the Movie.
A bit of trivia: Christopher Lee, who played Saruman, was an actual Tolkien fanatic and the only member of the cast who ever met Tolkien in person. He wanted the role of Gandalf, but got Saruman instead. Given his background for evil, powerful characters (he not only played Count Dooku in two of the Star Wars movies, but played another count, Dracula, in several back in the 50s and 60s. I even wonder if Count Dooku wasn't so named because of its similarity to the role that made him famous), he probably would have ruined the movie as Gandalf, but he's perfect as Saruman.
The Nazgul weren't scared of the water (obviously, in hind sight, as they did begin crossing moments later) - the river represents the borders of Rivendell and the power of the Elves. THAT's what gave them pause.
They are afraid of water due to Ulmo who never left the children of Îlluvatar to be fully alone. And the waters reflect the song of the Sinur which the elves and the Valar themselves can hear and have studied for huge amounts of time back when time flowed differently in every way possible. The Valar themselves didn’t know it all after they entered the world; came down to Ëa and later to be known as Arda whence the elves became a thing; whence they woke at the Cuiviènen!
So what you just said, they were afraid of the water. Considering the Flood literally destroyed them and sent them back to Mordor (their spirits not their physical body)
frodo doesnt actually "disappear" when he puts on the ring, he enters the spirit world which is why the wraiths can see him since he's entering their world
Oddly enough the Nazgûl’s Fëa (spirit) are within the void of sorts. So their bodies are technically vacant which cause these Numenorean mens souls to be known as Houseless spirits.
Frodo being more able to resist the rings corruption was no accident. Hobbits are so grounded and having so little lust to dominate gave the rings evil so much less purchase on his soul. It was also why for the first time in 3000 years he was able to give up the ring willingly.
True, Hobbits don’t are simple people who don’t generally want power, so the ring has less to courrupt. There’s also a theme of determinism throughout Tolkien’s world (How Gandalf explains that Frodo was meant to have the ring) I.e. everything ultimately happens in accordance to illuvatar’s (God’s) grand plan. Though I don’t know who you’re referring to being able to give up the ring for the first time in 3000 years, no one possessed the ring for that length of time….
@@Dan-Band even if Frodo wanted to give it up and give it to Gandalf even Gandalf explained just how dangerous a mere ring is "Don't tempt me Frodo! I would use the ring in the desire to do good, but through me would wield a power of evil"
A no spoiler mini-explanation to help fully appreciate The Lord of the Rings. The author is JRR Tolkien, who was an Oxford professor, a linguist and historian. He literally spent his entire life creating the world of Middle-earth. His purpose was to write a mythology history for England, including a creation story inspired by his devout Catholic faith. The languages heard in the movie were created, completely, by Tolkien. Several dialects of Elvish, the dwarf language, and the Black Speech of Mordor. In Tolkien’s world, Eru Ilúvatar is the Creator. Aiding in fulfilling his purpose are the Valar (think archangels) and Maia (angels). Some (not all) of the Valar and Maia have significant roles through the ages. Also, a few Valar and Maia are evil. The events in LOTR take place in the Third Age, with the forging of the great rings and battle seen in the prologue occurring in the Second Age. Sauron, the Dark Lord, is a Maia. Gandalf and Saruman are also Maia, and they (along with three others) were sent by Eru Ilúvatar to Middle-earth to aid in the fight against Sauron. They are called the Istari, or Wizards. Their magical powers are limited but they are still very powerful, and the “old man” appearance was to appeal as wise men but does not directly translate to being aged as they are literally ageless beings. They were sent to guide, instruct, and impart wisdom, not to be warriors or solve problems, hence the rare use of "magic". Incidentally, the Balrog is also a Maia (one of the evil ones), hence why Gandalf had to confront it. Elves are immortal. They can be killed in battle, but their souls return to Valinor (the Undying Lands), the dwelling place of the Valar, and are given a new body. Valinor is separated from Middle-earth, reachable only by ships built by the elves at the Grey Havens. You will often see some calling it "heaven" as a simplistic way to describe it, but this is wrong. Valinor is called the Undying Lands because immortal flesh-and-blood elves dwell there in harmony with the Valar, who are spirit beings with a bodily form. Valinor is not an after-death spirit realm like heaven. Aside from a handful of notable exceptions, elves are the only race to ever set foot on Valinor. There have been only two other elf and human unions, so Arwen and Aragorn are very unique. In all cases, the elf maiden had to choose mortality to be with the human man she loved. This is a BIG deal, just keep that in mind. Lord Elrond of Rivendell is the child of one such union. He was also faced with a choice, deciding to be an elf. His twin brother, Elros, chose to be human, becoming the first King of Númenor. Directly from his line came Elendil and Isildur, and then much later Aragorn. Side note: The vial of starlight that Galadriel gave to Frodo is captured light from the star of Earendil (very long story told in The Silmarillion) who was a half-elf and the father of Elrond and Elros. Galadriel is by far the most powerful elf in Middle-earth, and she is wholly good and wise. She was born in Valinor in a time before the sun and moon were created, so is easily 9 thousand years old, probably much more. She is the keeper of Nenya, one of the three elven rings. It doesn’t come into the movies, but the other two rings are kept by Elrond and Gandalf, who was given his by Cirdan, Lord of the Grey Havens. The daughter of Lady Galadriel and Lord Celeborn married Elrond, so Arwen is her granddaughter. Legolas is an Elven prince, the son of an Elven king from another realm which does not play into this story but does in The Hobbit. He has known Gandalf and Aragorn for a very long time. Elves and Dwarves have thousands of years of bad blood between the races, hence Gimli and Legolas not liking each other in the beginning. I’ll end with the Hobbits. They live normally as long as humans, so Bilbo (who comes from a line of long-lived Hobbits) is old by Hobbit standards but not beyond possibility. What makes him different is that he has barely aged. Bilbo is Frodo's uncle, taken in and named Bilbo's heir when Frodo's parents died. Samwise Gamgee is Frodo and Bilbo’s gardener, so technically he works for the wealthy, upperclass Bagginses, hence the occasional “Mr. Frodo.” There is a slight class structure, as was common in England during Tolkien’s life. Merry (Meriadoc Brandybuck) and Pippin (Peregrin Took) are distantly related to Frodo, and are much younger. Pippin is barely out of his “tweens” which is why he tends to be the most foolish. Give him time! Great reaction! You will LOVE this wonderful ride. The next two movies get better and better. And speaking as a Tolkien fan for close to 50 years, what Peter Jackson et al did with these 3 movies is a true masterpiece in every conceivable way. While there was much left out due to time (believe it or not), and obviously changes in pacing and so on must be made when adapting to cinema, the movie barely strays from the novel by Tolkien.
Sauron disguised himself as a sentient ring maker with the intention to control middle earth. Gifted rings to the elves, dwarves and men to enslave them and pursue his domination
The Ring brings out any existing bad things, like greed or wanting power. Froto doesn't have any ambitions like that, that's why it's affects are weaker and slower on him. Sam wants to be a Gardner and grow things.
The text on the ring is in the Black Speech of Mordor, which is considered a form of elvish but it's mostly spoken by orcs. It actually causes elves pain to hear it spoken.
It actually makes elves sick as it’s an actual warping of the language and the elves being the Quendi which mean Those Who Speak which also ties to power of Saruman’s Voice as described in the book and expertly done by Christopher Lee which also ties to the song of the Ainur which created the world as a byproduct of their singing etc. it’s all complex in the most lovely way possible. Every tiny thing matters ❤❤❤ even Tens of thousands of years later.
Hey guys, just wanted to address your comment that Gandalf was near Mordor in the beginning of the movie when he was researching the ring. They don't explain the fact that Gandalf was actually gone for 17 years until he came back to the Shire and Frodo! (crazy, right?) He had traveled to the other end of the country, where he was close to Mordor, to learn more about the ring, he also searched for Gollum with Aragorn.
@@KalElCanFly Another detail: Gandalf was doing his Ring research in the city of Minas Tirith, which is in sight of Mordor, but there's a largely impassable mountain range separating them. You can see the layout on the map of Middle-earth in the prologue of the film (or, well, with a quick Google search). That map (and others) is included in hardcopies of the book, which is really handy to keep track of where everything is relative to each other throughout the story!
the timeline of the movies was speeded up considerably over the book in the interests of keeping things moving along. Tolkien gives a detailed chronology of events in an Appendix to the story, published at the end of ROTK. His earlier travel to Minas Tirith to research Isildur and the finding of the Ring isn't documented. However, he escaped from Isengard on September 18 and reached Bree on September 30, going first by Eagle and then by very fast horse.
Galadriel's life was marked by much loss & tragedy. she lost many family members, including her brothers Aegnor & Angrod, who died in the War of Wrath, a great conflict between the forces of the Valar and Morgoth. She also lost her grandfather, Finwë, who was slain by Morgoth by a terrible & unholy lighting strike that left his body broken but one can imagine he was just as mighty as Fëanor by being the FATHER, Morgoth himself being responsible for the deaths of her uncles Fëanor (& Fingolfin quite a bit later on when he faced off one on one with Morgoth/Melkor and left the fallen Valar 7 permanent wounds which left him eternally limp to the point of being mocked by his generals and the like indefinitely which left Morgoth in intense pain forever!) Fëanor was Galadriel's half-uncle, as he was the son of Finwë by his first wife Míriel. Fëanor's sons were therefore Galadriel's first cousins. Most of Fëanor's sons died in the wars that followed the theft of the Silmarils, including the tragic deaths of Celegorm & Curufin, who were slain by their own cousin, Lúthien's son Dior. Galadriel also lost her relative Aredhel, who was her cousin, & Aredhel’s brother; king Turgon of the hidden kingdom of Gondolin. These losses weighed heavily on Galadriel, but she remained strong and resolute in the face of adversity. Fëanor's death was a tragic event that marked the beginning of the First Age of Middle-earth. After Morgoth stole the three Silmarils, Fëanor swore an oath to retrieve them, even if it meant going to war with the Valar themselves. Fëanor led the Noldor in their rebellion against the Valar, & he and his sons played a significant role in the events that followed. Fëanor was eventually slain by Balrogs, demonic creatures who served Morgoth, during the flight of the Noldor from Middle-earth. His death marked the end of an era, & his legacy continued to be felt in Middle-earth for many ages to come. Fingolfin's death was no less tragic. He challenged Morgoth to single combat & fought valiantly against him, but he was ultimately slain by the Dark Lord. His death inspired many to rise up against Morgoth, & his legacy continued to inspire the people of Middle-earth for many ages to come. Despite the many losses she suffered, Galadriel remained a powerful and influential figure in Middle-earth, & her wisdom & knowledge continued to be sought after by many. Galadriel's history is rich & complex, & she played a significant role in the events of Middle-earth. She was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun and moon, and she was a member of the Noldor, one of the three Elven races. Galadriel's family, the House of Finarfin, was closely connected to the Vanyar, the first of the three Elven races to journey to the Undying Lands. Galadriel's grandmother, Indis, was a Vanya, and her mother, Eärwen, was a Teleri princess who married Finarfin. Galadriel's father & brothers participated in the rebellion of the Noldor against the Valar, which resulted in the exile of the Noldor from the Undying Lands. Galadriel, however, did not participate in the rebellion and remained in the Undying Lands. As I recall her father was with the others that returned to Valinor at the Doom Of Mandos which in basic terms set a warning prophesy sort of thing where if they left Valinor it’d cause a domino effect throughout time etc. but Fëanor’s fire burned inside and he had a HUGE bone to pick with Morgoth. So that’s what was mainly leading him there but it was several years long of travel on what was called the Helcaraxë (grinding ice wastes) Galadriel did end up there but through other means as her way to middle earth let’s just say lead her to there where she sort of rendezvoused with her family and helped lead her people to middle earth. Many died on this trip of HARSH conditions.). During the Third Age, Galadriel played a key role in the events leading up to the War of the Ring. She helped the Fellowship of the Ring by giving them gifts, advice, and guidance, and she played a significant role in the defeat of Sauron. (She played a bigger role than shown in the movies) Galadriel possessed many magical abilities, including the power to read minds, the ability to communicate telepathically, & the power to cast spells but above all was her ability to project herself across large distances(not teleporting, think more like a sort of mental and spiritual projection similar to astral travel) She was also renowned for her beauty & grace, and her wisdom and knowledge were highly respected by the Free Peoples of Middle-earth. Overall, Galadriel's long life and rich history make her one of the most intriguing and powerful characters in J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium. In J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium, Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings of the Elven race. According to Tolkien's writings, Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands, also known as Aman, which existed before the creation of the sun and moon. The creation of the sun and moon occurred after the Two Trees of Valinor, which provided light to the world, were destroyed. This event, known as the Darkening of Valinor, marked the end of the First Age of Middle-earth. Based on Tolkien's timeline, the events of the First Age occurred approximately 5,000 years before the start of the Second Age. The Second Age lasted for approximately 3,441 years, and the Third Age lasted for approximately 3,019 years. Therefore, if Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun & moon, it is estimated that she would be at least 25,000 years old by the end of the Third Age, which is when the events of The Lord of the Rings take place. This calculation is based on the assumption that Galadriel was born before the start of the First Age and that she has lived through all three ages, which is supported by Tolkien's writings. Most important thing here is about Galadriel’s eldest brother Finrod: Finrod Felagund, also known as Findaráto, was a noble elf of rarer mixed heritage just like his younger sister & brothers, the Noldor/Vanyar/Teleri renowned for his wisdom & fairness but also his valiance. He was the eldest son of Finarfin, one of the three sons of Finwë who was the High King of the Noldor. Finrod played a crucial role in the events that led to the creation of Númenor. When the Valar summoned the Noldor to return to Valinor, Finrod and his companions chose to stay in Middle-earth and establish their own kingdoms. During their travels, they encountered the Edain, a group of mortal Men who were the mightiest of them all and the elves considered them equals!!! They became friendly and open to the elves. Finrod was particularly impressed by their courage and loyalty, and he became the first elf to befriend them. As time passed, Finrod & the 3 main Houses Of The Edain formed a close bond. Teaching them many things about the world and the lore of the elves. He also helped them in their struggles against the dark forces of Morgoth since even before meeting the elves. The Edain pledged their allegiance to the elves and fought alongside them in many battles. He even learned their language due to his way of reading hearts and minds which essentially aided hugely in his learning how their language worked etc. Eventually, the deeds of Finrod and the Edain were recounted in the halls of the Valar, and the Valar took pity on the mortal Men. They decided to give them a gift, and thus Númenor was created, a great island kingdom in the middle of the sea, where Men could live in peace and prosperity. As for Finrod himself, he did not live to see the rise of Númenor, for he perished in a battle against a werewolf in the dungeons of Tol-in-Gaurhoth, also known as Sauron's Isle. He was a true friend to the Edain & played a key role in the creation of Númenor. He was also close to his sister Galadriel, and together they shared many adventures and battles. (I’ll share the significance of Elrond’s father which is the main character in how his deeds lead to the assistance from Valinor to help insurmountable odds and circumstances regarding Morgoth to take his physical form out of the picture for good in what’s called the War Of Wrath which was 80 years long nonstop. But I’ll go into it more when I share about Elrond in a different comment which I may save for the second movie or if you want I can post it below this video!) In the end, Finrod's legacy lived on through his deeds and his influence on the fate of Middle-earth. His noble example inspired many, including Aragorn, who was born centuries later & gave him the chance to claim the throne of Gondor & Arnor/Anor as a descendant of the line of Elronds Twin brother who was first king Of Númenor and started the line of the Faithful Númenoreans
Here is more stuff that connects to when Morgoth killed Fëanor’s father Finwë (as I described in the beginning of this message above): •The First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë. It took place in the city of Alqualondë on the shores of Aman when the Noldor, led by Fëanor, stole the ships of the Teleri (which also that clan didn’t like the energy coming from Fëanor but also didn’t want to start another war with Morgoth ontop of Teleri being rather peaceful in general; along with the fact it was all just a bit rash on their perspective so to speak to leave for Middle-earth, resulting in the deaths of many Teleri. This act was a major turning point in the history of the Elves and led to the estrangement of the Noldor and the Valar. This is the battle where I may have mentioned in the Galadriel hair comment. Where she was defending her mothers people from Fëanor and his army which is one of the main reasons he backed the hell off. She’s a very cool character. One of the most beloved still alive in middle ear to after so many ages of the world had passed into the third age that you’re watching this movie in!) •The decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was a choice made by the Noldor, led by Fëanor, on their own. They were driven by their desire to reclaim the Silmarils, which had been stolen by Morgoth, and to avenge the deaths of their kin who had been killed in the pursuit of the jewels. The journey through the Helcaraxë was a difficult one, and many of the Noldor perished along the way. However, it was not seen as a punishment, but rather as a test of endurance and resilience. Those who survived the journey were strengthened by it and became more powerful as a result. In summary, the First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë, and the decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was made by the Noldor on their own. The Helcaraxë was a difficult journey, but it was seen as a test of endurance on its own rather than a punishment.
The hobbits are special, but Gandalf is so willing to trust Frodo since he is the one that "fate" for lack of a better word, brought the ring to. More important than strength, or wisdom is the fact that the ring fell in frodos lap. Gandalf trusts in things like that way more than the rest of the wise... You'll find out if this was the right choice in the coming movies!
In the book, the four swords do not come from Strider. In a scene not shown in the movie, the hobbits go wandering recklessly at night through the Barrow-downs, where they are captured by the Barrow-wights, ghostly remnants of dead warriors from a battle a thousand years prior, who dress the hobbits in rings and swords from the battle, and bury them alive in the Barrows with them, until the hobbits are rescued by a powerful nature spirit called Tom Bombadil, a being so old he remembers the first acorn and the first raindrop. Tom Bombadil is Master of the forest, and husband of the daughter of the river-god. The swords were made with powerful magic to fight the Nazgûl (which is why the Nazgûl paused before attacking them), and the hobbits kept them (except for Frodo, who got Sting from his uncle Bilbo) for the rest of their journey.
You guys are in for a ride. I think it’s great you guys are giving these a chance. I hope you’re watching the extended editions, it’s night and day the amount of story and scenes that are cut from the normal versions.
@@KalElCanFly Speaking for myself, it's perfectly fine if you watch the theatrical cuts first and the extended editions later at your leisure. There's some _really_ great additions in the EEs, but most of it is world-building and character background and development stuff (particularly in the case of Fellowship of the Ring). That said, there are a _couple_ of scenes in the latter two EEs that just made me wonder why they were cut in the first place!
It certainly isnt a bad thing to watch the extended movies for the 2nd and 3rd movies. For this one, Its not hard to seek out the extended scenes on UA-cam for the first movie and watch it on your own time to catch up. And its funny you guys think the standard movie is too long .. the extended movies add al ot of time to the movie.. and there are still fans of these books who say more parts of the book should have been added :)
@@KalElCanFly this was the version I watched 8n theaters. It wasn't until after 2005(when I had read more Tolkien) that I watched the Extended editions. Keep on the theatrical versions as they're not as long (you're looking 10 hours for the theatrical trilogy, 12 or more for the Extended edition)
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition: (1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition (2) The Two Tower Extended Edition (3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin: (1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition (2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition (3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
I haven't read the comments in this video, but here are some things to keep in mind. 1. The Lord of the Rings was originally a book trilogy written by J. R. R. Tolkien between the years 1939 and 1945. This was the first piece of literature and world building the influenced and started this genre of storytelling. Anything like Game of Thrones or anything of that kind has been influenced by LOTR (Lord of the Rings) which came before it. 2. This is not an isolated story but is one in a whole world which Tolkien crested. There are different people groups, land regions, and ages of time in this universe in which LOTR is a slice. Tolkien literally created a whole language, Elvish,, which he incorporated in the LOTR.. As such the movie has references to many kinds of things that are before or beyond its immediate context. As such every bit of detail is important and in retrospect there are no wasted lines, scenes, or sequences in my opinion. Some of the "holes" that you referred to are actually contained on the extended editions of the films, but because of the length of the films they are not contained in the theatrical cut. 3. Because if the vastness of the story there are many names and places that are mentioned throughout each movie and the series in general. Having a pen in hand would be helpful for jotting it down so that you accurately have the names and also makes your own thought process more efficient so your memory does not get strained by trying to think of that one guys name or that creatures name
Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves (300-500years world of infiltration & deception down to the drain) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in laments terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted! Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion: 1200 Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens. c. 1500 The Elven-smiths instructed by Sauron reach the height of their skill. They begin the forging of the Rings of Power. c. 1590 The Three Rings are completed in Eregion. c. 1600 Sauron forges the One Ring in Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron. 1693 War of the Elves & Sauron begins. The Three Rings are hidden." 'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them. But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained. These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One." The One Ring’s power over people explained here:As for the rings given to these groups:They were all meant to go to the elves but Mairon of the Maiar disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements and questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ Aside from the three Elven Rings Made In Secret Without Saurons presence or touch upon them through Celebrimbor!
I think it's crucial to watch the extended editions - things make more sense, the lore is richer, plot lines (especially Saruman's) are more fully resolved. The experience is far superior.
How the hobbits really got their swords was left out of the movies to save time. They were elvish swords found in a large burial mound on their way to the village, Bree. The hobbits were trapped in that mound for a short time by a malicious wight. Think of it as a ghoul. An ancient, undead ruler, who captured them for treading too near to his tomb. His aim was to keep them there, buried with him, indefinitely, but they were rescued by Tom Bombadil, a very powerful being. It's not really known exactly what he is, though he looks like short and stout man, larger than a hobbit, though. After their rescue, the head on their way to Bree with their new weapons.
@@KalElCanFly Yeah, when the trailer for the first movie was released, I was a freshman in high school, and I knew about the story, but had never read it. My mom had the trilogy and The Hobbit on our bookshelf, and I got so excited, I read the whole dang thing in one month. Then, when the credits rolled, I was beside myself with excitement. It's nice watching newcomers see the movie for the first time. Despite the incredible job the Jackson team did with the movies, there really is a lot that was left out. Others on here have correctly said you should watch the extended editions. I highly recommend it for your reactions for the next two movies. It does help with the story development and explaining little things here and there. I loved your reactions, though! You picked up on a lot of things most reviewers miss just by listening to the dialogue in the movie! Great reaction, guys! BTW, I also REALLY loved your reactions to The Legend of Vox Machina!
It is popular consensus in the fandom that the Wraith of Barrow Downs wanted to trade the Ring with Nazguls (the Ringwraiths) for something he could gain from Sauron. And he also wanted to kill the hobbits, and it appeared as kind of sacrifice ritual and so becouse of that there is this possibility that the Wraith was going to try to sacrifice them to free Morgoth from his jail by this blood ritual. Morgoth was previous boss of Sauron, a rogue Valar, first and mightiest satanic power of this universum. Sauron is just a servant of him.
The movies were all filmed as one project but just as the books were done in three volumes, the movies were seperately released a year apart around Christmas time. At least you don't have to wait a year to see the next two! Guaranteed, when the whole thing is over, you will wish it wasn't.
think you are mistaking what type of movies these are, they are fantasy, based on books of fiction, nothing like period dramas as you said in beginning, period dramas are based on a historic moment in time, not fantasy. also one could look to these books as the originators of stuff like elves, dwarves and dungeon & Dragons.
The ring isn't as demonic to those who have no desire for power or control. Gandalf (and Saruman in his beginning) are servants of the gods who were sent to assist men to come into their own and defeat Sauron. Gandalf doesn't show his power often, as his mission is to encourage and support mankind. Man must rise to the challenge because the time of the Elves is passing and the time of the dominion of men is meant to begin... or the world is plunged into darkness and Sauron rules. It took even Gandalf a while to reach Minas Tirith (near Mordor) and he was able to ride almost due south, through the gap of Roahn, past Isengard (Saruman's domain). After he knew Saruman was a traitor, the Fellowship had to cross the Misty Mountains, a much longer trip...and on foot.
Strider was carrying around 4 extra swords so they could skip a few chapters in the book where the Hobbits have a little adventure before they meet him and get them then. Also, the more powerful someone is, the more dangerous it is for them to have the One Ring. You don't wield the ring, it wields you, so it is far safer for it to be in the hands of simple hobbit than in the hands of a mighty wizard.
If they meant tobacco, they would have said tobacco. They literally said weed. If they didn't want that mistake to be made they should have changed the line. Don't be hating on reactors who have not read any source material to know any different when the movie specifically states its weed. A quick Google search shows the author stating its tobacco but has the same effects as weed, so what's the difference really? Maybe hate on Tolkien or the Director of the movie for not changing it. "However, the author Tolkien has stated that pipe-weed isn't cannabis. It's a variety of Nicotiana, which he says is tobacco, but because of the cannabis-like effects, many still believe it's marijuana."
@@KalElCanFly The word "weed" had a different definition in the past before it ended up being heavily associated with marijuana in more recent history. Weeds are undesirable plants growing in an area that they're not wanted in. Dandelions are considered weeds. Some weeds are harmful because they are parasitic to other plants or are invasive species. In-universe the Athelas/Kingsfoil plant we see Aragorn using to help slow the poisoning in Frodo's wound is considered a weed by Hobbits but it is not a smoking plant. Hobbits considered it a weed because they thought it was a useless plant due to the knowledge of it being a healing plant being lost to nearly everyone but the Rangers and some elves.
@AngelusBrady I don't have an issue with any of that. My issue was with the original comment being unjustly aggressive for people thinking it was weed when they said weed. While the source material may have meant one thing the movies were made in a different Era and I don't believe you can fault people for making that connection when they had no knowledge of the source material.
@@KalElCanFly I had no knowledge of the source material either when I first watched the movie but I made zero connection with marijuana because I knew the other definition of the word "weed". The other poster didn't have the best attitude but I can understand the frustation since the word "weed" no longer has any relation to harmful garden plants any more.
Bilbo is actually Frodo's first cousin once removed on Frodo's mother's side, and his second cousin once removed on his father's side. Since that's a bit complicated for anyone other than Hobbits (who simply love family trees), the movies quite sensibly have Frodo refer to Bilbo as his uncle. Legally, Bilbo is also Frodo's adopted father, but since he wasn't far off from adulthood when the adoption happened, he never actually calls him dad or anything like that, in either the movies or the books. Frodo's parents were drowned when he was around twelve years old, and he lived with Merry's family (Merry's grandfather was the oldest brother of Frodo's mother) for some years before Bilbo ended up adopting him. Pippin is another cousin of Merry's and Frodo's, and the three of them have been as close as brothers all their lives. So when they bump into each other in Farmer Maggot's field, they weren't just some random young thieves who happened to know Frodo's name. There was already a very close friendship in place, and Frodo already knew he could count on their loyal support. As for the stealing, Frodo used to do that too, and to the same farmer, until the farmer's dogs taught him to leavethosecrops alone (a lesson that stayed with him for years, so that he was actually frightened when he realized whose fields he was crossing on his way out of the Shire, even though he wasn't taking anything). Young Hobbits need a lot of food, and if they've been out and about, it's often easier to raid a nearby garden than to go all the way home six times a day. Stealing small amounts of food from gardens and orchards seems to be an accepted part of Hobbit culture at Merry and Pippin's age. Farmer Maggot's anger would seem to indicate that they've taken more than they should have, but still, it doesn't make them the kind of people who can be expected to hand Frodo over to Sauron in exchange for some veggies. They're mischievous, but they're good people, really.
Scenes could have been cut?? Lol...they didnt have enough scenes. I would encourage you both to pay close attention to even what you think is insignificant, as none of it is. Biblo is frodo's uncle.
I think Kal-El will need to get into The Two Towers (second movie) before he begins to be drawn in. And PLEASE go with the extended version for the next two. Just in case you begin to wonder: The rings (other than the ruling ring) were made by an elf under the tutelage of Sauron. When Sauron was teaching the craft he was still able to disguise himself and appeared as a good guy. As soon as Sauron forged the one ring, the elf who made the others woke up and realized what was happening. The elves then hid their three until Sauron was defeated (3000 years before this story begins), when they were able to use them to keep their three regions beautiful, peaceful, and unchanging. The seven given to the dwarves only made them greedy for wealth, causing them to mine too deeply. Those seven were retaken by Sauron or destroyed by dragon fire. We know what happened to the nine given to men.
The 2nd movie is up for all patreon and UA-cam members. 3rd movie will be available for members by this weekend. For the standard UA-cam release it's going to depend on editing and copyright issues. I am hoping for this weekend, but that may be tough.
Theres been a few comments stating this. I guess what i meant was more so hisorical looking/overly fantastical costumes, horse and carts. I am more of a tech nerd so i prefer more futuristic type enviroments
Enjoying your reactions! You ask why Bilbo wasn't at the Council of Elrond. Tolkien's book is rather different in many ways from the movie, and in the book, Bilbo was at the Council. In fact he offered to take the Ring to Mordor. Everyone smiled at him, but he was serious.
I love that scene. It still shows Bilbo's heroism and his desire still to claim the ring. Gandalf said, "You cannot take this thing back, it has passed on. If you want my advice I should say that your part has ended."
I'm with you on this journey, and it truly will be a journey like no other. The Extended Editions are longer, but they have short scenes which add to the overall story. It may not be to everyones taste to sit through a LONGER film, but once you've watched FOTR then you won't mind watching the other films that are roughly the same length. To put it one way, the EE versions are the top versions to watch. The films were actually cut down for the theatrical release and these films represent the final iteration of what they wanted the films to be.
THank you for joining us on this journey. This is more in Emily's wheelhouse as we diuscussed but she has gone through the Rocky movies and such now its time to open my mind to her style of movies. We have both enjoyed discovering Japanese Anime together as well. We try to have a good selection of content.
The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript] C The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras. See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund(Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was very important in the legendarium) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down.
I'm glad you two gave this franchise a chance. They only get better and more epic from here. I know your going to enjoy the next two films. Great review!!
Nazgul aren’t afraid of water. Horses can’t really swim. The Brandywine is a deep and fast-flowing river. Even a good swimmer wouldn’t choose to swim it. The place where Arwen takes Frodo across the shallow fjord is the border of Elrond’s land. The Nazgul fear Elrond and his people, not the water.
You’ll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel that even the great Peter Jackson & team didn’t seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & the”one who has seen the eye” thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like “so creepy” lol : •[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. “I know what it was that you last saw”, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlórien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!' She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Eärendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood. 'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of Lórien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper. 'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and Lothlórien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.' Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last. 'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of Lothlórien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.' 'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.' Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest? 'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!' She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad. 'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.' They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.' 'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?' 'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam. 'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.' 'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!' When] at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it.... Meaning definitely by now it’s become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldn’t find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. That’s power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the Nazgûl run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head Nazgûl). Remember Númenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman and very tall. Between 6-8 feet.
Really, really hope you watch the extended versions of the next to films. Yes they are long (about 4h for the next and about 4 1/2h for the final film) but I feel they are soo worth it. There is a lot more character development and story info given. I don't think you'll be disappointed, I watch a lot of first time reactions to these films, especially when it's the extended versions of the films they are watching. Most don't even tend to notice the long run time and if they do they don't really care cause they are so engrossed in the story. Enjoyed watching you two's reaction to this. looking forward to the next ones even if they aren't the extended versions.👍👍
We did do the extended version of the last two movies. The Two Towers is already available for our members and Return of The King will be available within the next day or two. They will both be up on UA-cam this weekend and next weekend.
BTW even in the extended version some things were left out from the book if you are watching the theater release version then you are missing a lot. I can't think of a thing that can be removed and still make sense, no way could you cut 45 minutes from the movie. A few points of clarification: Frodo is Bilbo's nephew (he took him in when his parents drowned), the battle that killed Saron was 3,000 years ago 2,500 years passed before Gollum found the ring and he had it for 500 years before it abandoned him. BTW even in the books there are several plot holes, but most readers don't care because they enjoy the story. The Lord of the Rings (LOTR) has had a huge influence on the fantasy genre, it's considered the father of epic fantasy, several books have imitated the story in full or in part, even Dungeons & Dragons is based on LOTR. The Hobbit was 1st published in 1937 and LOTR 1st book 1954 and the next 2 in 1955. Before LOTR Elves were little people/spirits after LOTR Elves were seen as human sized, though you still get the occasional small elf (I'm looking at you Keebler Cookies, LOL).
Lord of the Rings is not really a trilogy. It's one very long story that Tolkien wrote as six "books," but his publisher chose to publish as three volumes, named exactly as they are the movies.
I’m excited for you both to journey to Middle Earth! Of all the fandoms I love, this will always remain on top. I firmly believe everyone who watches can find at least one thing that they truly love or completely relate to. It might be character, or the scenery, but it will really start to hit you in the chest with those universal moments that make a story immortal. The meaning you find for yourself is what really matters in this story. I’m sure you’ll be bombarded with explanations, because like some have already said, this story is the culmination of 40 years spent building this world. It’s rich, detailed, andso purposefully done with specific intention. Tolkien did this for fun, and though it essentially created the modern fantasy genre, this was his attempt to write an actual myth. Because even King Arthur was “too French” 😂 Have fun! And May the Blessings of Elves, Men, and Free Folk go with you.
Elves (show an Elf), Men (show a man), and (show a Dwarf)….all Free Folk. Elves and Dwarves don’t get along, so this is just more “my friends-and Zoidberg”
@@isaackellogg3493 and here I was thinking it meant Elves and Men are Unfree 🤓jk They could’ve done well to include a Hobbit in the shot too, but now that you put it that way, it’s something hilarious I’ve never noticed. I can see Elrond throwing some subtle disses like that. And now it seems it could also be a hint to even more subtle dissing. “We are the First and Second Children of the actual One God. He created us personally, everyone else is not special, and obviously very free to do what they want!”
Don't think of the trilogy as separate movies, more like one long film cut into 3 parts, I get that you didn't feel much resolution, but think about how much you now know about this world... and this is just the beginning, the introduction to the world and players. From here it just gets better and better, in my personal opinion... though parts of the second film are some of my favorite scenes throughout all the films. One of my favorite behind the scenes bit of trivia is about that final fight scene. Aragorn is fighting the big guy, and at one point hits a knife thrown at him out of the air with his sword. The actor actually did that. The other actor's throw was off, hard to see through all the makeup, and the knife was flying a lot too close. Aragorn's actor was the last main character cast, and so he had the least amount of time for sword training before filming started, not much at all. His trainer however, said he was one of the best students he ever had, took to it like it was instinctive.
Great reaction! This is my favorite film franchise. The biggest thing this movie doesn't cover is the amount of time between movements, like when Frodo inherits the ring(age 33) to when he leaves the Shire(age 51). We're talkin' 17 years. Some behind-the-scenes knowledge: In the scene following Gandalf's death, when they're outside Moria, the casting was not complete for Gandalf, and Ian McKellen had not yet joined so the actors are crying over an actor they don't know yet. John Rhys Davis, the actor who played Gimli, was very allergic to the adhesive for his beard When Aragorn is fighting the Uruk-hai captain and he throws the dagger the actor Viggo Mortensen had to deflect a real dagger coming at his head instead of the prop dagger. When Sam follows Frodo into the river they thought they searched the river bank well so that the actor Sean Astin wouldn't cut himself on anyting walking into the water barefoot, but they missed a piece of glass and it went all the way through his foot and he had to be airlifted to the nearest hospital. He had 20 stitches. I hope you watch the extended edition for the other two movies, that's my advice. Yes, they're 4 hours each, but worth it!!
The movies fail to give you a good picture of the time. Between Frodo receiving the ring and him starting from his home are about 19 years he is about 50 when he starts.
Actually the dwarves are rather immune to the rings power as when they had the 7 of what was meant to be the 16 elven rings redistributed to them it had no effect on them. Especially due to the fact their forefathers were created by the hands of Aulë of the Valar. And they are not greedy! They are highly noble and strong. Their ancestors could take out dragons. You can go into detail in reactions like moviejoob did. She’s the only one aside from a few channels that’s making it popular and it’s working as hundreds more are falling in love with it all. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
The extended editions are better. You miss stuff by not watching them. For example, you saw galadriel give frodo the light. But in the extended edition, she gives the others gifts also. Daggers to merry and pippen. Rope to sam. A bow to legolas.
What could possibly have been cut? I mean, they cut down the book so much already and they did a phenomenal job of introducing us to everyone, the mythos, the locations, the constant dangers that are drawn to the Ring. Its so funny to me that anyone could want LESS LOTR when all I want is MORE (and I don't mean the Hobbit or ROP which are trash). I want the 1300 hours of unreleased footage from LOTR they filmed in New Zealand when they made the trilogy 😂
I was wondering that myself. Anything you cut would remove vital character moments, eliminate important thematical elements, or shorten the action sequences. Of course, they talked over some of the nice character moments, so I am guessing they aren't really into that sort of thing.
Frodo and Samwise are not the hobbits’ actual names-they are the English translations of their actual names; Samwise Gamgee’s name for instance was Banazîr Galpsi.
yes, Banazir Galpsi. And Frodo Baggins is "English" translation of hobbit name - Maura Labingi. But what is realy important for my view of Tolkien's world is that Frodo is actual, real name borrowed by Tolkien from medieval Danish chronicle ("Gesta Danorum" by Saxo Grammaticus written in 13th century but telling much older stories) where there are at least 4 Danish kings named in (Old Icelandic) Frodi or in (Old Norse) Frode. While Froda is the name's version in Old English (Anglosaxon) language. Tolkien's hero name was only latinised by added "o" (see Frodo, Saxo, Otto - Germanic names latinised by Latin chronicles of medieval monks). There are more connections between Frodo from LOTR, and one of those vikings kings named Frodi - not only the name. One of the connections is that king Frode (AFAIR Frode IV) wanted to rule peacefuly so he denounced the vikings customs of vengence between clans and that his land was so prosperous and peaceful that "golden rings" can be left alone on the road and would not be stolen. :) AFAIR it was this king who also was betrayed during a festival and assasinated. This connection is not in the movie but in the book one of the enemies tries to assasinate Frodo in his own land. The name itself is one of (rare for hobbits) meaningful names - it comes from the Old Norse word "fród" which means "wise". And the friend and counterpart of Frodo is Samwise - that name means "half-wise". As Tolkien was a linguist and knew like 30 languages (that guy studied the Bible in Old Gothic language from 5th century, translated Finnish epic poem "Kalevala" and learned Welsh just to be able to read Celtic folklore of "Mabinogion") he was able to invent many languages for his Arda world. I've seen on Amazon bookstore a book about Tolkien's languages and the title of this book mentiones 14 languages of his invention. While the 3 most developed and able to be used for example to write poems are Quenya and Sindarin - two elven languages and Adunaic - a language of Numenorians - a tribe of mortal humans (ancestors of Aragorn). There are dictionaries of these languages, like Sindarin dictionary.
What seemed like a short amount time for Gandalf to be close to mount Doom in the beginning; was really him gone for 7 years researching the magic ring that Bilbo found. Plus, once they knew they had the One Ring they had to take their time not to be caught by the enemies servants.
The powerful words Gandalf speaks- ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, ag burzum-ishi krimpatul- are the words written on the One Ring, “one Ring to rule them all, one Ring to find them, one Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them” in the Black Speech of Mordor. You can see the effect they have in Rivendell (Imladris in the elven-tongue), and so you can understand why Gandalf decided not to utter them in Bag-End. Elrond took umbrage at Gandalf uttering them in his kingdom, which had successfully fought off besieging orcs for centuries, but as Gandalf pointed out, if they did not succeed in destroying the One Ring, it was a language that would soon be spoken by conquering armies in all of the formerly free lands of the West.
About the hobbits' swords: In the book, they get them under totally different (and more realistic) circumstances from a character who did not make it into any productions of Lord of the Rings: Tom Bombadil. That story line would have thrown the pacing way,, way off.
The scene with "looks fairer and feels fouler" lines between Frodo and Merry is also interesting for me becouse its one of those early scenes in the movie when we can see the differences between the main hobbits. At the inn (of the prancing pony) Sam's general behaviour was showed - that he usualy looks about for possible threats for Frodo "that man in the corner" and acts accordingly "I'll have you Longshanks" (btw Longshanks was one of other names Strider was called by the people of Bree). Merry is from an old and rich family of practical people who plans for long time as they are sort of governonrs of big province of the Shire (Buckland - thats why Merry knew about "Buckleberry Ferry" it was near his home :) Its very good to remember that from those 4 only Sam is a gardener for hire the other boys are from higher class - Pippin's dad is actualy Than of the Shire, which is smt like king's governor for the Shire obligated to protect all land in a time of crisis. Frodo is from old and respected clan about which he speaks with Gandalf at the start of the movie. Only Bilbo was not respected in Baggins family becouse he got on adventures in far a way lands. :) And Merry is the most strategic mind of all 4 hobbits. Pippin is showed in the movie as the unpredictable joker becouse he was the youngest in the book (5 years before the age of adulthood as hobbits count it at 33 - btw Frodo is 33 at the first scene and Bilbo's b-day party was also Frodo's b-day party in the book), Sam is humble servant who simply idolised Frodo even before the Quest, and Frodo is more introspective and intuitive. So Merry thinks more far-sighted than Sam but is also more down to earth than Frodo - Merry evaluates only what he sees (Aragorn, or other persons) while Frodo looks deeper into things and persons (as he did in the book scenes in his meetings with other charachters). And IMO in the movie he is showed as the one of the hobbits with the most intuitive thinking. Frodo was scholar and poet in the book. Thats why the line of "feels fouler and looks fairer" was his line from the book, although in the book he spoke it to Strider not Merry. :)
The elves were the first beings and some of the first elves even walked with the lesser gods when they were on the planet. The evil guy was a lesser God. When invisible froth is in like the dark realm. Gandalf and the elves glow in that realm. My limited knowledge from what I have read and understand.
Every zero exposure first time LOTR reactor ever, before watching: "3 hours is impossible!" Same reactor as the credits start rolling: "it CAN'T be over already...queue up the next one!"
Gandalf on horse in that scene is near Gondorian capital Minas Tirith which is also near Mordor's borders - like 2 weeks of march for an army to the border Black Gate and another 2 weeks to the Mountain. But actual distance from the Shire to the Mountain can be like from Wales to Croatia.
Emily has a habit of falling asleep during movies. Especially in a movie theatre. She and I were not together at that time ans was also a single mother of 2 children, it is very feasible for someone who is a tired single mother with a history off falling asleep during movies to not remember the movie.
Whats not exactly translated from the books to the movies, the trip gandalf did at the begining of the move was MONTHS long i belive 15 months at least before he returned to the shire. Thats why its taking them soooo long
I hope you are going to watch "behind the scenes" materials (for your own fun not specificaly for reaction video) becouse one of my fav is about two acclaimed Tolkien illustrators, artists J. Howe and A. Lee who made all these general plans of architecture and landscapes and creatures. The two of them were concept-artists in this movie. AFAIR Howe is also specialist of armours and weapons and he arrived in New Zealand with his own set of armours as a model - how to make a plate armour - for the filmmakers. AFAIR at first they wanted to make all of the swords and such just from foam and from aluminium. But they could not get the proper weight of such sword for the training of the actors, and the proper colors of such aluminium swords for camera. So they decided to forge swords from proper materials instead. Howe AFAIR helped them to build proper smithy to develop hundreds of pieces of weapons and armors. The weapons of main heroes and first line soldiers were always real weapons - made in smithy from real steel. Only the background charachters in the armies got gum/foam weapons. And we must rememeber that for any of main heroes their sets of armors and weapons (swords, knives, axes) had to be made in at least 3 versions. One proper heavy weapons for actors training (behind camera), one beautiful and shiny set of weapons for scenes with close ups on the weapons (like the scene when Bilbo gives Frodo his sword), AFAIR one other set for scenes with stunts, and then part of these sets of weapons had to be copied for the use of 5 short doubles of main actors. We have to remember that most of props from the scenes with persons of two sizes were also doubled - tables, cups, chandeliers, bagpacks, everythings was made in two sizes, for tall and for short charachters. And all this material about making weapons in their smithy is such fun how they present the process of forging and decorating the weapons, not every sword but also decoration on every sword was planned according to who will use it and to what kind of acting. For example they made Aragorn's sword (ranger sword) with the addition of little knife - for daily use in travels - wore in leather satchel on the sword's grip.
You need to turn the volume of the movie to balance out the sound. I had to turn it way up in order to hear it which makes your voices WAY too loud. Thanks
It's important to realise that the book(s) are pretty much the origin of almost all modern fantasy literature. Nearly any trope you see in the fantasy genre, originated here.
Thank you for saying this, it’s very important
These movies are based on thousands of pages of literature. To cut it down into 3-4 hours each was quite a feat. So I’ll have to disagree that some scenes should’ve been cut out. Though you may not think they’re needed for this film, they’re still needed for the story as a whole.
I know they were probably unaware that these were a book 1st and then a Trilogy of movies, THAT BEING SAID, for those that do comment about the length of the Jackson trilogies particularly the extended editions I do tend to recommend watching The Animated versions by Bass/Bakshi/Bass which basically took thirteen or so hundred pages down to around 5 hours in length( which is only about one and a quarter of the length of the Jackson films).
Are they needed? Does the story fall apart without it and fail? The extended version shows how unnecessary parts can be. Only a couple scenes should’ve been added while others could be cut.
@@athens_1psvr31 All scenes in the theatrical version were needed - I think that’s what they watched. Scenes in extended version add context and background for characters which is never a bad thing. I’ve watched reactions for both editions & reactors who have more unanswered questions after watching Return of the King are the ones who stuck to the initial theatrical version.
Regardless, either version is available. I just think it’s a bit shortsighted to make that remark when one hasn’t finished the series yet. They have no idea what is and isn’t relevant.
@@athens_1psvr31 It never hurts to have added backstory and context since its relevant to the story. People with short ass attention span these days.
We demand a full length Lord of the Rings trilogy using the books as the direct script!
The ring was designed to entrap those who desire power, all Hobbits want is to grow things and lead a simple pain free life with joy and have no need for power of any kind. They are about love and community not fame and fortune so they are not tempted by it. That is how Bilbo had it for so long without doing anything evil with it except the desire to keep it at the end
Gandalf: You didn’t think I’d miss your Uncle Bilbos birthday?!”
The Reactors: “Do you think it’s his son? 60 years maybe it’s his grandfather”
All within 5 seconds of eachother
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This movies are based on a book that has been written during the first half of the 1940s, by a former veteran of the first world War.
He sent the single captures, one at a time, to his son, who was a soldier on the front lines, during WW2. He did that to help his son. To give him a little escape, from the horrors of the front.
In the end, that book turned out to been massive, more that 1000 pages long. The author - JRR Tolkien - wanted to publish it, when the war was over.
But, in this hard times, paper was not as available as it is today.
So he needed to separate his story in three parts. In order to publish them, one after another. If the first one turned out to be successful.
The Lord of the Rings became one of the most beloved most and most successful books, of all time.
Millions of people red Tolkien's story, over the last nine decades, and Peter Jackson used it to create one of the most successful movie trilogy... again, of all time.
He was a soldier in WWI.
@Jim Glenn
Sure. I wrote that.
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Tolkien wrote it from 1936 to 1949, and the only part of it that was originally letters to his son (in South Africa, with the RAF) was the journey of Frodo/Sam from the end of the first film until he gets to Mordor.
The publishing was due to a bet he had with CS Lewis; one of his best friends. If you want more information I can send you a link to a cool video!
The movies are masterpieces but they do Isildur some injustice. In the books, while he does succumb to the seduction of the ring, he spends his time being a fair ruler who practically gave some power away instead of being power hungry. He comes to realize that he is not powerful enough to truly bend the ring to his will. That it will eventually overcome him. Isildur resolves to give the ring to Elrond but is killed on the way to Rivendel. It's a tragic story of a man that tries to right his wrong but ultimately fails.
In the books isildur literally repented and was about to bring the ring to Rivendell and apologize as he recognized it was beyond him even for a great numenorean connected to the faithful line of the mighty Elendil
In many traditions, evil cannot withstand living (flowing) water.
Makes sense; in the books the waters are connected to Ulmo & the waters themselves; containing echoes of the Songs Of The Ainur(Ainulindalë) that ended up creating the world as a byproduct including all that happens within it until the world gets remade a second/third time.
Bilbo was Frodo's uncle. His parents died in a tragic accident (alluded to in the extended cut of the film).
LOL at 25.29, "Elvis medicine", surely would be some fatal cocktail of tranquilizers, heart-disease tablets, and laxatives! (Or if it were the other Elvis, it'd be heminevrin or similar).
At 29.20, in the book Bilbo was there, just as an interviewee, and it was never as argumentative as in the film. (Actually there's a ton of exposition at the Council that's either not in the film at all, or hinted at, and/or relocated)
At 50.30, that glimpse of the future does indeed happen in the book.
What makes Hobbits so special is that they desire nothing, they already live a life of peace and quiet from the outside world of the shire. They care not other than their own life and business.
It's why the ring had very little sway over Frodo, the best advice I can give without spoiling too much is try to keep an eye on frodo on his attitude and emotions from all of the three films combined how he went from the first to the second to the third.
I don't think you'll find many people who agree with you that scenes could be cut out! On the contrary the vast majority of LotR fans will strongly recommend that you watch the extended editions which will give you a better understanding of the story.
We did watch the extended 2nd and 3rd movies
Just in case I didn’t mention this yet. The hobbits aren’t kids. Here are their ages along with the other characters!
current ages of the characters: Frodo Baggins is 53. Samwise Gamgee is 38. Meriadoc Brandybuck (Merry) is 36. Peregrin Took (Pippin) is 28. Gandalf (Olòrin) - is 15,000 (in his current form. Aragorn is 87. Legolas is 2,931. Gimli is 139. Boromir son of Denethor II is 41!
Arwen(Elrond’s Daughter) is around 3,777 years old by this exact era the films were set in!
I hope that helps!
Elves aged differently than men and dwarves. They did not suffer from old age or disease, and their lives were not limited by a fixed number of years. Instead, they aged very slowly, remaining youthful and vigorous for much longer than mortals. Though they could voluntarily leave their bodies and the ultimate thing that can kill them is grief or Sorrow that’s palpable enough for them to just not wish to live anymore.
Here are the ages of some of the main Elves of the Third Age, as of the War of the Ring:
1. Elrond Half-elven - over 8,586 while his daughter is 3,777 old!
2. Galadriel - around 20,000
3. Celeborn - 20,000; he may have been alive before her birth or around the same time as his lineage that he lived amongst his forefathers and kin might suggest he is older but they are both very ancient.
4. Glorfindel - over 2,000 (although he had been re-embodied after dying in the First Age which means his Fëa spirit is far older than 2000.)
5. Thranduil (you’ll see him in the hobbit films - is reaching 8000+ as he was born in the First Age and lived in Doriath with his father Oropher; Thranduil is also the father of Legolas. (As Haldir mentioned him when speaking to Legolas in Lothlòrien during the first movie’s extended scene. He shares the same kindred elven clan as to Celeborn(Galadriel’s husband).
It's worth noting that Elves could choose to die voluntarily, usually when they grew weary of life or when they had fulfilled their purpose in the world. However, their spirits would then depart to the Halls of Mandos and could eventually be re-embodied in a new
body
I meant to add that Frodo was 51 when he left due to the whole Gandalf coming back to the shire after many years. that explains why his youthful appearance didn’t change much throughout the entire film!
Khazad-dûm (“Mansions of the Dwarves”), called Moria (“Black Pit”) in Elvish, is the ancient tribal capital of the Dwarves. Twenty years earlier, an expedition led by Gimli’s uncles and cousins had retaken Moria from the orcs, but nothing had been heard of them for thirteen years, and Gimli was hoping someone would still be alive.
Lady Galadriel had taken the trouble not only to learn the Dwarven name, but the proper pronunciation (most Elves could only manage “Hadhodrond”). She did this as a peace offering to Gimli, to try to make friends with the Dwarves, who had been in a Cold War with the Elves for hundreds of years.
At the source of Willow, Wheel of Time, Dungeons&Dragons, the Witcher, and many more of such kind is Tolkien's universum, Arda.
You really don't understand how much of the story was cut down to fit into 3 three hour movies. This is a part of a grand story...
(You missed this from extended) The song heard when the elves were spotted in the forest by Frodo&Sam near the beginning of the movie: here is the song the Elves were singing & chanting a very special Hymn along their journey:(English translation too)
* Á Elbereth Gilthoniel
“o Elbereth who lit the stars”
* silivren penna míriel
“from glittering crystal slanting falls with light like jewels”
* Ò menel aglar elenath
“from heaven on high the glory of the starry host”
* na-chaered palan-díriel
“to lands remote I have looked afar”
ò galadhremmin ennorath
“from tree-tangled middle-lands”
* Fanuilos, le linnathon
“and now to thee, Fanuilos, bright spirit clothed in ever-white, I will ... sing”
* nef aear, sí nef aearon
“here ... beyond the Sea, beyond the wide and sundering Sea”
* Ã Elbereth Gilthoniel²
“o Elbereth who lit the stars”
* Ò menel palan-diriel
“from heaven gazing far”
* le nallon sí di’nguruthos
“here overwhelmed in dread of Death I cry”
* Á tiro nin, Fanuilos
“o guard me, Elbereth”
(Elbereth Gilthoniel is one of the main Valar who are of the main group of entities known as the Ainur who sang the world into being and helped shaped it further from within after some entered into the young world. She is most loved & honoured by the elves for many reasons)
It’s very important as regarding the elves history that spanned over 40,000+ years. Because even one of the three high kings within Valinor was 30,000 years old well before the third age. Galadriel is his granddaughter just do you know. Yeah. She’s very important throughout the entire histories. They are passing away with what’s left of their kin to the undying lands. Many thousands had their home in middle earth just like the high kings ancestors that woke to the stars. Their birth is shrouded in mist as is their entire existence itself. That in itself is a whole story. You’d love to react to the immersive and entertaining lore videos like moviejoob & OmarioRPG have done. It’s ever vast and rewarding to let touch your soul.❤❤❤❤
Varda is a Quenya name of Valarin origin meaning "Sublime", "Exalted" or "Lofty"
Elbereth is name given to her by the elves meaning ‘Star Lady’
Gilthoniel essentially means Star Kindler
An original title of Varda, meaning 'the Kindler', and deriving from her making of the first faint stars in ancient times which was to light the dark world which had no sun yet and they loomed over the original Dark Lord (Fallen Valar named Morgoth by the elves) who he feared most above all even as supposedly he was the mightiest and first of all Ainur to ever exist (Ainur is the ultimate race of both Maiar and Valar)
When, long afterwards, she used the dews of Telperion(one of the two sacred trees that predated the Moon of which it birthed later on) to kindle brighter stars still, this surname seems to have fallen out of favour. After that time she was called instead Elentári, the Queen of the Stars.
Willow was made because Lucas really wanted to make Lord of the Rings but couldn't.
MUCH deeper lore version with added details for you: Galadriel's gift to Gimli has deeper meaning behind it, like most things in this movie & reflects the expanded lore of the middle earth universe. Galadriel is one of the 2-3 most powerful & wise elves remaining in Middle Earth since the time the land was young. She was born in a place called Valinor, or the Undying land... which is basically the place of residence of the Valar, the local pantheon, the local "gods" as you may call them. Back then, the world was not illuminated by the sun, the moon and the stars, but rather by 2 trees of gold and silver, Telperion and Laurëlin that lit the world before the sun & moon were born from their last flower and fruit as they were basically killed by Melkor. It is said that Galadriel's hair had somehow captured some of the shine of those two trees. Her uncle Fëanor, who was a great king of the Elven people & also arguably their greatest craftsman to ever live, asked/demanded that she give him a lock of hair, so that he could use it to fashion 3 gems that would shine of the same light as the trees. Sensing his pride & a shadow that wasn’t exactly belonging to him brewing from within, she refused his request 3 times. He stopped asking and made the gems anyway, managing to complete the task he had set for himself even without her hair. Around these 3 gems, the possession of which became the driving force for many of the great events in the world, entire wars that lasted for centuries exploded, and other events. The gems actively shaped the fate of the races of middle earth to the point that the aforementioned Valar got involved directly. During these times, events surrounding the gems brought about the traditional enmity between Dwarves and Elves... the same enmity that Gimli still feels towards them. That enmity however does not survive his encounter with the wise Galadriel, whom Gimli basically falls platonically in love with. By giving him 3 of her hair, Galadriel is opening a door, offering an olive branch that might one day close the gap that divides these two races. Legolas, himself being an Elven prince and centuries old, knows of the story through his father Thranduil & grandfather Oropher, as it shaped the lives of all Elves, and his subtle smile is possibly the first act of acknowledgment and reconciliation. it is also a way for Peter Jackson, the director of the film, to give a nod to all of the fans who know these facts and backstories... a way to make us feel seen, and to make us appreciate just how deeply the makers of the film respect the books and larger universe created by Tolkien.
The thing with the hair may seem weird, but there is a significance to it in real life as well as in the lore of the story. In real life, it was not uncommon for wives, fiancés, or even girlfriends to give their men (who were going off to war), a lock of their hair as a keepsake, particularly in WWI, which Tolkien fought in. The lore part of it comes into play in The Silmarillion, Tolkien's tales of the creation of Arda, the Undying Lands of Valinor, and Middle Earth. Galadriel is many, many thousands of years old, & was born in Valinor before the sun & moon were even created. At the time, the world was lit by two trees, one gold and one silver which would shine at different times from each other, but would shine together once a day when one would fade and the other brighten. Galadriel's hair was said to look like the light of the mingled light from the two trees, which may have inspired Feanor, a master craftsman and heir to the high king of the Noldor, to craft the Silmaril's which were three jewels that captured the light of the two trees, one golden light, one silver light, & one co-mingled light. Fëanor had a bit of a thing for Galadriel and begged her for her hair three different times, which she rejected because she could perceive the inner darkness of his heart and rejected him, which made them "un-friends" after that. There is a lot more to the lore than that, so this is the super crib-notes version. But the point is, it was VERY significant that she granted Gimli three of her hairs to a dwarf, when she would not to the son of her king many 10s of thousands of years ago of which she is related to all three kings who were brothers and Elu Thingol of Doriath was one of the brothers that didn’t stay in Valinor even though he was one of the elven ambassadors along with his three brothers and that king I mentioned was VERY close friends with Thingol)
ever wondered how old Galadriel is during the War of the Ring? I have looked in many different sources and depending on where you look, she’s anywhere from 17,000-20,000 years old. 6,000 seems too young as it would make her close in age to Elrond, who I know is much younger than her even though he’s 6000-8000 by the third age, which wouldn’t make sense for her at all even if she was (“690 years older” as some kept repeating on the internet making 6960!)As she was around long before Elrond was even born and time was experience differently to say the LEAST as there is a lot to go into on that subject lol.) She was born during the Years of the Trees & back then the years were something like 9X longer than a solar year so I understand the math is hard, especially since she isn’t given an exact birth year. But it is said that Finarfin, her father, was born in Y.T. 1230, so I would assume she was born sometime within 1000 years of then (being generous).
Basically, I’m wondering what the most accurate range is for her age during the events of Lord of the Rings. I’ll also add that Galadriel is was around before the ents even existed (of which Treebeard is 15,000 years old so she’s OLDER than Treebeard/Fangorn) or very close to when they were “created” by Yavannah and probably had much knowledge to do with such things and or direct knowledge of what happened. Probably through an early prototype of her mirror or simply another dream that made her long for middle earth all over again ontop of the yearning she already had to go there and explore. Nothing to do with Fëanor’s oath and all that jazz.
Just going from the Appendices (and maybe Silmarillion) she would have to be at least 9000+ years older than Elrond, Elrond was born near the end of the First Age, Galadriel was adult before the destruction of the Trees.
Actually, more than that: I just checked, and the Second Age ended in SA 3441. So an elf born literally at the end of the First Age (FA 590) is 3441+3018 = 6459 years old when Frodo leaves for Rivendell. Elrond was born in FA 532, so adds 58 years to get 6517. Elves are mature at 100, so Galadriel adds at leas 632 to Elrond's age, to be at least 7149, and possibly quite a bit more (as attested by other comments.)
One fic had Maglor(Elrond’s Adoptive Father, Maedhros was also adoptive father alongside Maglor, they were the eldest sons of Fëanor) - One fic had as much older than Galadriel; I wondered how we knew, and it was pointed out to me that Maglor was the second oldest son of the first son of Finwë, while Galadriel is the youngest child of the third son of Finwë. So, yeah.
Note that the second age was the LONGEST and again time was experienced very differently back then too aside from the internal clock of elves working very differently, she’s definitely older as far as the world and the other beings that age far faster around her.
I also remind you all that she’s older than the sun and the moon and witnessed and most likely even helped in the Valar’s crafting of the last fruit and flower of the two trees of Valinor. She was the most involved with learning everything possible from them.
She’s 25th generation from Tata one of the elven forefathers to wake to the stars. Their birth was rather shrouded in mist. Only those of her grandfathers ilk have a chance of knowing the origins a bit better as they are closer to that culture that stemmed from the beginning.
The Years of the Trees were the second of the three great time periods in Arda that followed the Years of the Lamps and preceded the Years of the Sun&Moon. They were known to be comprised of several Ages and lasted in total around 1500 Valian Years or 14,373 solar years.
Time flowed differently back then and time flowed differently within them too for the elves live as long as the world does. Epic hey?❤❤
The Dúnedain said that Galadriel’s height was two rangar, or "man-high" - some 6 feet 4 inches (193 cm). However, Galadriel's most striking feature was her beautiful long silver-golden hair. The Elves of Tirion said it captured the radiance of the Two Trees Laurelin and Telperion themselves. Galadriel was said to be the tallest female in Middle Earth, at 6'4”. But then Thingol was the tallest elf ever to live, and he's estimated to be almost 9' (274 cm)
Thingol was also a very very prominent figure within the Silmarillion and other books. He’s the great ancestor of Elrond+Arwen and through Aragorn being directly but distantly related to Elronds Twin Brother Elros it makes him loosely connected to Thingol as well. Let’s just say he died a tragic death long long ago. I’m a continent that doesn’t exist anymore. The events I spoke of in my earlier story of Elrond about his fathers deeds, which lead to the Valar helping with putting a Stop to Morgoth for good so to say and that War Of Wrath lasted 80 years straight and it left the landmass torn asunder from the clash of gods and the holy host of Vanyar elves that were closest to the Valar than all other elves so you can imagine what a bunch of mighty elves men and Maiar fighting a bunch of fowl creatures and beings for 80 years would do to a continent. It all fell into the sea. Galadriel barely made it over the mountain before that part of the story officially broke out.
God.❤👍👏
The more power a person has, the more they desire the ring, and the more they are corrupted. Gandalf and Galadriel, two of the most powerful beings in Middle-Earth, have a serious craving for it, but understanding its power they resist it. Notice that in Bilbo's house Gandalf is afraid to even touch it, for fear he will not be able to let it go again. The hobbits are able to resist its power best, because of all the races they desire power the least.
An explanation about hobbits might help you cut the guys some slack. Most hobbits have mostly lived in isolation preferring not to have anything to do with "the big folk". They have no idea what's going on outside of The Shire so our 4 companions hace no concept of the danger they're heading into.
Hobbits aren't considered adults until they turn 33. Because they had to rearrange things to skip the 17 years that passed while Gandalf was looking for info on the ring people don't understand the ages of our 4 hobbits. When they leave the Shire, Frodo is 50, Sam is 38, Merry is 36 and Pippin is 29. Pippin is basically the equivalent of a teenager.
Yes. Gandalf the Grey died.
funny - when Elrond says you will unite the camera is on Aragorn, and when Elrond says you will fall the camera is on Boromir :)
From Bag-End to Mount Doom in Mordor is 1350 miles (2172.61 kilometers), or about 440 hrs walking. From London, England to Nîs, Serbia.
From Los Angeles, California to Austin, Texas for Americans.
You asked why Strider was carrying four little swords around to hand out to the Hobbits. Good question! In the book, the Hobbits had various adventures on the way to Bree that were omitted from the movie, and in the process they acquired four swords that they carried from then on. Frodo's sword broke under him when confronting the Nazgul at the Ford of Bruinen (in the book, Arwen wasn't there), and Bilbo gave him Sting as a replacement.
They're actually given to them by another character in the book, but that character isn't in these movies, so Strider was the one who gave these swords to them. They are actually ancient swords that were made by Strider/Aragorn's long past ancestors thousands of years prior.
Yes, but an elf who casually took on a Balrog during the first age would've sucked ALL THE MOVIE tension out of the theater. Glorfindel's exclusion makes narrative sense
@@bemasaberwyn55Glorfindel didn't do enough in the books to force his way into the movies. Tolkien didn't choose to have one of the most powerful elf warriors join the fellowship, so it's not surprising he was replaced by Legolas in the cartoon and Arwen in the Movie.
A bit of trivia: Christopher Lee, who played Saruman, was an actual Tolkien fanatic and the only member of the cast who ever met Tolkien in person. He wanted the role of Gandalf, but got Saruman instead. Given his background for evil, powerful characters (he not only played Count Dooku in two of the Star Wars movies, but played another count, Dracula, in several back in the 50s and 60s. I even wonder if Count Dooku wasn't so named because of its similarity to the role that made him famous), he probably would have ruined the movie as Gandalf, but he's perfect as Saruman.
I love Christopher Lee, but I think Gandalf requires the warmth that Ian McKellen can bring to characters.
Regardless Christopher Lee left his good marks as Saruman and he played a damn good role.
@@koreancowboy42 Oh, absolutely.
And any potted biography of Christopher Lee has to include "your god had his chance and - in the parlance - blew it"
Lee admitted that he was a bit too old to play the more action character of Gandalf.
The Nazgul weren't scared of the water (obviously, in hind sight, as they did begin crossing moments later) - the river represents the borders of Rivendell and the power of the Elves. THAT's what gave them pause.
They are afraid of water due to Ulmo who never left the children of Îlluvatar to be fully alone. And the waters reflect the song of the Sinur which the elves and the Valar themselves can hear and have studied for huge amounts of time back when time flowed differently in every way possible. The Valar themselves didn’t know it all after they entered the world; came down to Ëa and later to be known as Arda whence the elves became a thing; whence they woke at the Cuiviènen!
So what you just said, they were afraid of the water. Considering the Flood literally destroyed them and sent them back to Mordor (their spirits not their physical body)
frodo doesnt actually "disappear" when he puts on the ring, he enters the spirit world which is why the wraiths can see him since he's entering their world
Sort of. The precise realm is the “unseen world”
Oddly enough the Nazgûl’s Fëa (spirit) are within the void of sorts. So their bodies are technically vacant which cause these Numenorean mens souls to be known as Houseless spirits.
Frodo being more able to resist the rings corruption was no accident. Hobbits are so grounded and having so little lust to dominate gave the rings evil so much less purchase on his soul. It was also why for the first time in 3000 years he was able to give up the ring willingly.
True, Hobbits don’t are simple people who don’t generally want power, so the ring has less to courrupt. There’s also a theme of determinism throughout Tolkien’s world (How Gandalf explains that Frodo was meant to have the ring) I.e. everything ultimately happens in accordance to illuvatar’s (God’s) grand plan.
Though I don’t know who you’re referring to being able to give up the ring for the first time in 3000 years, no one possessed the ring for that length of time….
@@Dan-Band even if Frodo wanted to give it up and give it to Gandalf even Gandalf explained just how dangerous a mere ring is
"Don't tempt me Frodo! I would use the ring in the desire to do good, but through me would wield a power of evil"
A no spoiler mini-explanation to help fully appreciate The Lord of the Rings.
The author is JRR Tolkien, who was an Oxford professor, a linguist and historian. He literally spent his entire life creating the world of Middle-earth. His purpose was to write a mythology history for England, including a creation story inspired by his devout Catholic faith. The languages heard in the movie were created, completely, by Tolkien. Several dialects of Elvish, the dwarf language, and the Black Speech of Mordor.
In Tolkien’s world, Eru Ilúvatar is the Creator. Aiding in fulfilling his purpose are the Valar (think archangels) and Maia (angels). Some (not all) of the Valar and Maia have significant roles through the ages. Also, a few Valar and Maia are evil. The events in LOTR take place in the Third Age, with the forging of the great rings and battle seen in the prologue occurring in the Second Age.
Sauron, the Dark Lord, is a Maia. Gandalf and Saruman are also Maia, and they (along with three others) were sent by Eru Ilúvatar to Middle-earth to aid in the fight against Sauron. They are called the Istari, or Wizards. Their magical powers are limited but they are still very powerful, and the “old man” appearance was to appeal as wise men but does not directly translate to being aged as they are literally ageless beings. They were sent to guide, instruct, and impart wisdom, not to be warriors or solve problems, hence the rare use of "magic". Incidentally, the Balrog is also a Maia (one of the evil ones), hence why Gandalf had to confront it.
Elves are immortal. They can be killed in battle, but their souls return to Valinor (the Undying Lands), the dwelling place of the Valar, and are given a new body. Valinor is separated from Middle-earth, reachable only by ships built by the elves at the Grey Havens. You will often see some calling it "heaven" as a simplistic way to describe it, but this is wrong. Valinor is called the Undying Lands because immortal flesh-and-blood elves dwell there in harmony with the Valar, who are spirit beings with a bodily form. Valinor is not an after-death spirit realm like heaven. Aside from a handful of notable exceptions, elves are the only race to ever set foot on Valinor.
There have been only two other elf and human unions, so Arwen and Aragorn are very unique. In all cases, the elf maiden had to choose mortality to be with the human man she loved. This is a BIG deal, just keep that in mind. Lord Elrond of Rivendell is the child of one such union. He was also faced with a choice, deciding to be an elf. His twin brother, Elros, chose to be human, becoming the first King of Númenor. Directly from his line came Elendil and Isildur, and then much later Aragorn.
Side note: The vial of starlight that Galadriel gave to Frodo is captured light from the star of Earendil (very long story told in The Silmarillion) who was a half-elf and the father of Elrond and Elros.
Galadriel is by far the most powerful elf in Middle-earth, and she is wholly good and wise. She was born in Valinor in a time before the sun and moon were created, so is easily 9 thousand years old, probably much more. She is the keeper of Nenya, one of the three elven rings. It doesn’t come into the movies, but the other two rings are kept by Elrond and Gandalf, who was given his by Cirdan, Lord of the Grey Havens. The daughter of Lady Galadriel and Lord Celeborn married Elrond, so Arwen is her granddaughter.
Legolas is an Elven prince, the son of an Elven king from another realm which does not play into this story but does in The Hobbit. He has known Gandalf and Aragorn for a very long time. Elves and Dwarves have thousands of years of bad blood between the races, hence Gimli and Legolas not liking each other in the beginning.
I’ll end with the Hobbits. They live normally as long as humans, so Bilbo (who comes from a line of long-lived Hobbits) is old by Hobbit standards but not beyond possibility. What makes him different is that he has barely aged. Bilbo is Frodo's uncle, taken in and named Bilbo's heir when Frodo's parents died. Samwise Gamgee is Frodo and Bilbo’s gardener, so technically he works for the wealthy, upperclass Bagginses, hence the occasional “Mr. Frodo.” There is a slight class structure, as was common in England during Tolkien’s life. Merry (Meriadoc Brandybuck) and Pippin (Peregrin Took) are distantly related to Frodo, and are much younger. Pippin is barely out of his “tweens” which is why he tends to be the most foolish. Give him time!
Great reaction! You will LOVE this wonderful ride. The next two movies get better and better. And speaking as a Tolkien fan for close to 50 years, what Peter Jackson et al did with these 3 movies is a true masterpiece in every conceivable way. While there was much left out due to time (believe it or not), and obviously changes in pacing and so on must be made when adapting to cinema, the movie barely strays from the novel by Tolkien.
What a great comment. Thank you for putting the time and effort into explaining this to us. We can't wait for the next movie.
Sauron disguised himself as a sentient ring maker with the intention to control middle earth. Gifted rings to the elves, dwarves and men to enslave them and pursue his domination
The Ring brings out any existing bad things, like greed or wanting power. Froto doesn't have any ambitions like that, that's why it's affects are weaker and slower on him. Sam wants to be a Gardner and grow things.
“Tis but a scratch” had me laughing
The text on the ring is in the Black Speech of Mordor, which is considered a form of elvish but it's mostly spoken by orcs. It actually causes elves pain to hear it spoken.
It actually makes elves sick as it’s an actual warping of the language and the elves being the Quendi which mean Those Who Speak which also ties to power of Saruman’s Voice as described in the book and expertly done by Christopher Lee which also ties to the song of the Ainur which created the world as a byproduct of their singing etc. it’s all complex in the most lovely way possible. Every tiny thing matters ❤❤❤ even Tens of thousands of years later.
In the book the four swords where found by the hobbits while they were trapped inside a burial mound of an evil wraith, but that's a whole other story
"I consider this a draw."
Hey guys, just wanted to address your comment that Gandalf was near Mordor in the beginning of the movie when he was researching the ring. They don't explain the fact that Gandalf was actually gone for 17 years until he came back to the Shire and Frodo! (crazy, right?) He had traveled to the other end of the country, where he was close to Mordor, to learn more about the ring, he also searched for Gollum with Aragorn.
Thank you for the clarification. That was a little confusing.
@@KalElCanFly Another detail: Gandalf was doing his Ring research in the city of Minas Tirith, which is in sight of Mordor, but there's a largely impassable mountain range separating them. You can see the layout on the map of Middle-earth in the prologue of the film (or, well, with a quick Google search). That map (and others) is included in hardcopies of the book, which is really handy to keep track of where everything is relative to each other throughout the story!
the timeline of the movies was speeded up considerably over the book in the interests of keeping things moving along. Tolkien gives a detailed chronology of events in an Appendix to the story, published at the end of ROTK. His earlier travel to Minas Tirith to research Isildur and the finding of the Ring isn't documented. However, he escaped from Isengard on September 18 and reached Bree on September 30, going first by Eagle and then by very fast horse.
Galadriel's life was marked by much loss & tragedy. she lost many family members, including her brothers Aegnor & Angrod, who died in the War of Wrath, a great conflict between the forces of the Valar and Morgoth. She also lost her grandfather, Finwë, who was slain by Morgoth by a terrible & unholy lighting strike that left his body broken but one can imagine he was just as mighty as Fëanor by being the FATHER, Morgoth himself being responsible for the deaths of her uncles Fëanor (& Fingolfin quite a bit later on when he faced off one on one with Morgoth/Melkor and left the fallen Valar 7 permanent wounds which left him eternally limp to the point of being mocked by his generals and the like indefinitely which left Morgoth in intense pain forever!)
Fëanor was Galadriel's half-uncle, as he was the son of Finwë by his first wife Míriel. Fëanor's sons were therefore Galadriel's first cousins. Most of Fëanor's sons died in the wars that followed the theft of the Silmarils, including the tragic deaths of Celegorm & Curufin, who were slain by their own cousin, Lúthien's son Dior.
Galadriel also lost her relative Aredhel, who was her cousin, & Aredhel’s brother; king Turgon of the hidden kingdom of Gondolin. These losses weighed heavily on Galadriel, but she remained strong and resolute in the face of adversity.
Fëanor's death was a tragic event that marked the beginning of the First Age of Middle-earth. After Morgoth stole the three Silmarils, Fëanor swore an oath to retrieve them, even if it meant going to war with the Valar themselves. Fëanor led the Noldor in their rebellion against the Valar, & he and his sons played a significant role in the events that followed.
Fëanor was eventually slain by Balrogs, demonic creatures who served Morgoth, during the flight of the Noldor from Middle-earth. His death marked the end of an era, & his legacy continued to be felt in Middle-earth for many ages to come.
Fingolfin's death was no less tragic. He challenged Morgoth to single combat & fought valiantly against him, but he was ultimately slain by the Dark Lord. His death inspired many to rise up against Morgoth, & his legacy continued to inspire the people of Middle-earth for many ages to come.
Despite the many losses she suffered, Galadriel remained a powerful and influential figure in Middle-earth, & her wisdom & knowledge continued to be sought after by many.
Galadriel's history is rich & complex, & she played a significant role in the events of Middle-earth. She was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun and moon, and she was a member of the Noldor, one of the three Elven races.
Galadriel's family, the House of Finarfin, was closely connected to the Vanyar, the first of the three Elven races to journey to the Undying Lands. Galadriel's grandmother, Indis, was a Vanya, and her mother, Eärwen, was a Teleri princess who married Finarfin.
Galadriel's father & brothers participated in the rebellion of the Noldor against the Valar, which resulted in the exile of the Noldor from the Undying Lands. Galadriel, however, did not participate in the rebellion and remained in the Undying Lands. As I recall her father was with the others that returned to Valinor at the Doom Of Mandos which in basic terms set a warning prophesy sort of thing where if they left Valinor it’d cause a domino effect throughout time etc. but Fëanor’s fire burned inside and he had a HUGE bone to pick with Morgoth. So that’s what was mainly leading him there but it was several years long of travel on what was called the Helcaraxë (grinding ice wastes) Galadriel did end up there but through other means as her way to middle earth let’s just say lead her to there where she sort of rendezvoused with her family and helped lead her people to middle earth. Many died on this trip of HARSH conditions.).
During the Third Age, Galadriel played a key role in the events leading up to the War of the Ring. She helped the Fellowship of the Ring by giving them gifts, advice, and guidance, and she played a significant role in the defeat of Sauron. (She played a bigger role than shown in the movies)
Galadriel possessed many magical abilities, including the power to read minds, the ability to communicate telepathically, & the power to cast spells but above all was her ability to project herself across large distances(not teleporting, think more like a sort of mental and spiritual projection similar to astral travel) She was also renowned for her beauty & grace, and her wisdom and knowledge were highly respected by the Free Peoples of Middle-earth.
Overall, Galadriel's long life and rich history make her one of the most intriguing and powerful characters in J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium.
In J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle-earth legendarium, Galadriel is one of the oldest and most powerful beings of the Elven race. According to Tolkien's writings, Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands, also known as Aman, which existed before the creation of the sun and moon.
The creation of the sun and moon occurred after the Two Trees of Valinor, which provided light to the world, were destroyed. This event, known as the Darkening of Valinor, marked the end of the First Age of Middle-earth.
Based on Tolkien's timeline, the events of the First Age occurred approximately 5,000 years before the start of the Second Age. The Second Age lasted for approximately 3,441 years, and the Third Age lasted for approximately 3,019 years.
Therefore, if Galadriel was born in the Undying Lands before the creation of the sun & moon, it is estimated that she would be at least 25,000 years old by the end of the Third Age, which is when the events of The Lord of the Rings take place. This calculation is based on the assumption that Galadriel was born before the start of the First Age and that she has lived through all three ages, which is supported by Tolkien's writings.
Most important thing here is about Galadriel’s eldest brother Finrod: Finrod Felagund, also known as Findaráto, was a noble elf of rarer mixed heritage just like his younger sister & brothers, the Noldor/Vanyar/Teleri renowned for his wisdom & fairness but also his valiance. He was the eldest son of Finarfin, one of the three sons of Finwë who was the High King of the Noldor.
Finrod played a crucial role in the events that led to the creation of Númenor. When the Valar summoned the Noldor to return to Valinor, Finrod and his companions chose to stay in Middle-earth and establish their own kingdoms. During their travels, they encountered the Edain, a group of mortal Men who were the mightiest of them all and the elves considered them equals!!! They became friendly and open to the elves. Finrod was particularly impressed by their courage and loyalty, and he became the first elf to befriend them.
As time passed, Finrod & the 3 main Houses Of The Edain formed a close bond. Teaching them many things about the world and the lore of the elves. He also helped them in their struggles against the dark forces of Morgoth since even before meeting the elves. The Edain pledged their allegiance to the elves and fought alongside them in many battles. He even learned their language due to his way of reading hearts and minds which essentially aided hugely in his learning how their language worked etc.
Eventually, the deeds of Finrod and the Edain were recounted in the halls of the Valar, and the Valar took pity on the mortal Men. They decided to give them a gift, and thus Númenor was created, a great island kingdom in the middle of the sea, where Men could live in peace and prosperity.
As for Finrod himself, he did not live to see the rise of Númenor, for he perished in a battle against a werewolf in the dungeons of Tol-in-Gaurhoth, also known as Sauron's Isle.
He was a true friend to the Edain & played a key role in the creation of Númenor. He was also close to his sister Galadriel, and together they shared many adventures and battles. (I’ll share the significance of Elrond’s father which is the main character in how his deeds lead to the assistance from Valinor to help insurmountable odds and circumstances regarding Morgoth to take his physical form out of the picture for good in what’s called the War Of Wrath which was 80 years long nonstop. But I’ll go into it more when I share about Elrond in a different comment which I may save for the second movie or if you want I can post it below this video!)
In the end, Finrod's legacy lived on through his deeds and his influence on the fate of Middle-earth. His noble example inspired many, including Aragorn, who was born centuries later & gave him the chance to claim the throne of Gondor & Arnor/Anor as a descendant of the line of Elronds Twin brother who was first king Of Númenor and started the line of the Faithful Númenoreans
Here is more stuff that connects to when Morgoth killed Fëanor’s father Finwë (as I described in the beginning of this message above):
•The First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë. It took place in the city of Alqualondë on the shores of Aman when the Noldor, led by Fëanor, stole the ships of the Teleri (which also that clan didn’t like the energy coming from Fëanor but also didn’t want to start another war with Morgoth ontop of Teleri being rather peaceful in general; along with the fact it was all just a bit rash on their perspective so to speak to leave for Middle-earth, resulting in the deaths of many Teleri. This act was a major turning point in the history of the Elves and led to the estrangement of the Noldor and the Valar. This is the battle where I may have mentioned in the Galadriel hair comment. Where she was defending her mothers people from Fëanor and his army which is one of the main reasons he backed the hell off. She’s a very cool character. One of the most beloved still alive in middle ear to after so many ages of the world had passed into the third age that you’re watching this movie in!)
•The decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was a choice made by the Noldor, led by Fëanor, on their own. They were driven by their desire to reclaim the Silmarils, which had been stolen by Morgoth, and to avenge the deaths of their kin who had been killed in the pursuit of the jewels.
The journey through the Helcaraxë was a difficult one, and many of the Noldor perished along the way. However, it was not seen as a punishment, but rather as a test of endurance and resilience. Those who survived the journey were strengthened by it and became more powerful as a result.
In summary, the First Kinslaying occurred before the Helcaraxë, and the decision to leave Aman and journey to Middle-earth was made by the Noldor on their own. The Helcaraxë was a difficult journey, but it was seen as a test of endurance on its own rather than a punishment.
Some people have a lot of time on their hands 😂
The hobbits are special, but Gandalf is so willing to trust Frodo since he is the one that "fate" for lack of a better word, brought the ring to. More important than strength, or wisdom is the fact that the ring fell in frodos lap. Gandalf trusts in things like that way more than the rest of the wise... You'll find out if this was the right choice in the coming movies!
In the book, the four swords do not come from Strider. In a scene not shown in the movie, the hobbits go wandering recklessly at night through the Barrow-downs, where they are captured by the Barrow-wights, ghostly remnants of dead warriors from a battle a thousand years prior, who dress the hobbits in rings and swords from the battle, and bury them alive in the Barrows with them, until the hobbits are rescued by a powerful nature spirit called Tom Bombadil, a being so old he remembers the first acorn and the first raindrop. Tom Bombadil is Master of the forest, and husband of the daughter of the river-god.
The swords were made with powerful magic to fight the Nazgûl (which is why the Nazgûl paused before attacking them), and the hobbits kept them (except for Frodo, who got Sting from his uncle Bilbo) for the rest of their journey.
You guys are in for a ride. I think it’s great you guys are giving these a chance. I hope you’re watching the extended editions, it’s night and day the amount of story and scenes that are cut from the normal versions.
We might have to do the extended cut now because it has been requested a number of times in the comments.
@@KalElCanFly Speaking for myself, it's perfectly fine if you watch the theatrical cuts first and the extended editions later at your leisure. There's some _really_ great additions in the EEs, but most of it is world-building and character background and development stuff (particularly in the case of Fellowship of the Ring). That said, there are a _couple_ of scenes in the latter two EEs that just made me wonder why they were cut in the first place!
It certainly isnt a bad thing to watch the extended movies for the 2nd and 3rd movies. For this one, Its not hard to seek out the extended scenes on UA-cam for the first movie and watch it on your own time to catch up.
And its funny you guys think the standard movie is too long .. the extended movies add al ot of time to the movie.. and there are still fans of these books who say more parts of the book should have been added :)
@@KalElCanFly this was the version I watched 8n theaters. It wasn't until after 2005(when I had read more Tolkien) that I watched the Extended editions. Keep on the theatrical versions as they're not as long (you're looking 10 hours for the theatrical trilogy, 12 or more for the Extended edition)
A lot of reactors split their reactions into two or more per movie.
Trilogy The Lord Of The Ring Extended Edition:
(1) The Felloship Of The Ring Extended Edition
(2) The Two Tower Extended Edition
(3) The Return Of The King Extended Edition
Trilogy The Hobbit Extended Edition Of The Adventures Of Bilbo Baggin:
(1) An Unexpected Journey Extended Edition
(2) The Desolation Of Smaug Extended Edition
(3) The Battle Five Armie Extended Edition
I watch the 6 chronologically yearly
I haven't read the comments in this video, but here are some things to keep in mind.
1. The Lord of the Rings was originally a book trilogy written by J. R. R. Tolkien between the years 1939 and 1945. This was the first piece of literature and world building the influenced and started this genre of storytelling. Anything like Game of Thrones or anything of that kind has been influenced by LOTR (Lord of the Rings) which came before it.
2. This is not an isolated story but is one in a whole world which Tolkien crested. There are different people groups, land regions, and ages of time in this universe in which LOTR is a slice. Tolkien literally created a whole language, Elvish,, which he incorporated in the LOTR.. As such the movie has references to many kinds of things that are before or beyond its immediate context. As such every bit of detail is important and in retrospect there are no wasted lines, scenes, or sequences in my opinion. Some of the "holes" that you referred to are actually contained on the extended editions of the films, but because of the length of the films they are not contained in the theatrical cut.
3. Because if the vastness of the story there are many names and places that are mentioned throughout each movie and the series in general. Having a pen in hand would be helpful for jotting it down so that you accurately have the names and also makes your own thought process more efficient so your memory does not get strained by trying to think of that one guys name or that creatures name
The third movie won an Oscar for best picture.
eleven, and tying it with 1997's Titanic and 1959's Ben-Hur for the most Oscar wins ever by a single film
In the beginning it does mention Bilbo is Frotos uncle. He adopted him when frotos parents died.
Firstly: All 16 rings were meant to go to the elves (300-500years world of infiltration & deception down to the drain) but Mairon of the Maiar(primordial angelic beings in laments terms as they are sort of beyond angels) disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements & questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤
There is problem here with the Rings, the Three were supposed to be never touched by Sauron and that's why they were not corrupting…Sauron had not taken part in their making which made the Three more 'pure' unsullied by his dark power, unlike the Nine and Seven Rings! But Sauron in the show touched the very material they were made of!!! So technically he could have tainted them and corrupted!
Even appendices of Lot tell us the order of making the rings, so they didn't even need the righs to more detailed writings in UT or Silmarillion:
1200
Sauron endeavours to seduce the Eldar. Gil-galad refuses to treat with him; but the smiths of Eregion are won over. The Númenoreans begin to make permanent havens.
c. 1500
The Elven-smiths instructed by
Sauron reach the height of their skill.
They begin the forging of the Rings of Power.
c. 1590
The Three Rings are completed in Eregion.
c. 1600
Sauron forges the One Ring in
Orodruin. He completes the Barad-dûr. Celebrimbor perceives the designs of Sauron.
1693
War of the Elves & Sauron begins.
The Three Rings are hidden."
'Did you not hear me, Gloin?' said Elrond. 'The Three were not made by Sauron, nor did he ever touch them.
But of them it is not permitted to speak. So much only in this hour of doubt I may now say. They are not idle. But they were not made as weapons of war or conquest: that is not their power. Those who made them did not desire strength or domination or hoarded wealth, but understanding, making, and healing, to preserve all things unstained.
These things the Elves of Middle-earth have in some measure gained, though with sorrow. But all that has been wrought by those who wield the Three will turn to their undoing, and their minds and hearts will become revealed to Sauron, if he regains the One."
The One Ring’s power over people explained here:As for the rings given to these groups:They were all meant to go to the elves but Mairon of the Maiar disguised as a high elf named Annatar when he came to the elves pretending to be an emissary from Valinor on behalf of the Valar so it makes sense how alluring the ring is and how strong it’s pull on people is. (A bit too instant in the movies though) Galadriel soon saw right through him and especially when after speaking with him regarding not remembering him when in Valinor long ago where she learned from all the Valar thanks to being dominantly Vanyar/Teleri side over her Ñoldorin side where she gleaned from that encounter that she did not study under Aulë the Vala with any elf named Annatar ! But later named Sauron by the elves meaning deceiver! After all of this, The three elven rings were made in secret without Saurons touch upon them thanks to Celebrimbor! Remember Gandalf before he became Gandalf was the same species of entity Sauron used to be!! Wow hey? The Rings, in this case, would have lost their powers eventually due to the lack of the One Ring and possibly because they were designed to defeat evil, and evil, in the form of Sauron, had been defeated. The Three Elven Rings served their purpose for a long time. Two out of three of them had several different bearers Unlike the other Rings, the main purpose of the Three is to "heal and preserve", as when Galadriel used Nenya to preserve her realm of Lothlórien over long periods. The Elves made the Three Rings to try to halt the passage of time, or as Tolkien had Elrond say, "to preserve all things unstained". I can expand upon this based on any further statements and questions you have for me as a reply to this comment ! ❤ Aside from the three Elven Rings Made In Secret Without Saurons presence or touch upon them through Celebrimbor!
I think it's crucial to watch the extended editions - things make more sense, the lore is richer, plot lines (especially Saruman's) are more fully resolved. The experience is far superior.
How the hobbits really got their swords was left out of the movies to save time. They were elvish swords found in a large burial mound on their way to the village, Bree. The hobbits were trapped in that mound for a short time by a malicious wight. Think of it as a ghoul. An ancient, undead ruler, who captured them for treading too near to his tomb. His aim was to keep them there, buried with him, indefinitely, but they were rescued by Tom Bombadil, a very powerful being. It's not really known exactly what he is, though he looks like short and stout man, larger than a hobbit, though. After their rescue, the head on their way to Bree with their new weapons.
Thank you for explaining. It was a little strange that they just appeared out of nowhere.
@@KalElCanFly Yeah, when the trailer for the first movie was released, I was a freshman in high school, and I knew about the story, but had never read it. My mom had the trilogy and The Hobbit on our bookshelf, and I got so excited, I read the whole dang thing in one month. Then, when the credits rolled, I was beside myself with excitement.
It's nice watching newcomers see the movie for the first time. Despite the incredible job the Jackson team did with the movies, there really is a lot that was left out. Others on here have correctly said you should watch the extended editions. I highly recommend it for your reactions for the next two movies. It does help with the story development and explaining little things here and there.
I loved your reactions, though! You picked up on a lot of things most reviewers miss just by listening to the dialogue in the movie!
Great reaction, guys! BTW, I also REALLY loved your reactions to The Legend of Vox Machina!
It is popular consensus in the fandom that the Wraith of Barrow Downs wanted to trade the Ring with Nazguls (the Ringwraiths) for something he could gain from Sauron. And he also wanted to kill the hobbits, and it appeared as kind of sacrifice ritual and so becouse of that there is this possibility that the Wraith was going to try to sacrifice them to free Morgoth from his jail by this blood ritual. Morgoth was previous boss of Sauron, a rogue Valar, first and mightiest satanic power of this universum. Sauron is just a servant of him.
The movies were all filmed as one project but just as the books were done in three volumes, the movies were seperately released a year apart around Christmas time. At least you don't have to wait a year to see the next two! Guaranteed, when the whole thing is over, you will wish it wasn't.
think you are mistaking what type of movies these are, they are fantasy, based on books of fiction, nothing like period dramas as you said in beginning, period dramas are based on a historic moment in time, not fantasy. also one could look to these books as the originators of stuff like elves, dwarves and dungeon & Dragons.
The ring isn't as demonic to those who have no desire for power or control. Gandalf (and Saruman in his beginning) are servants of the gods who were sent to assist men to come into their own and defeat Sauron. Gandalf doesn't show his power often, as his mission is to encourage and support mankind. Man must rise to the challenge because the time of the Elves is passing and the time of the dominion of men is meant to begin... or the world is plunged into darkness and Sauron rules. It took even Gandalf a while to reach Minas Tirith (near Mordor) and he was able to ride almost due south, through the gap of Roahn, past Isengard (Saruman's domain). After he knew Saruman was a traitor, the Fellowship had to cross the Misty Mountains, a much longer trip...and on foot.
Strider was carrying around 4 extra swords so they could skip a few chapters in the book where the Hobbits have a little adventure before they meet him and get them then.
Also, the more powerful someone is, the more dangerous it is for them to have the One Ring. You don't wield the ring, it wields you, so it is far safer for it to be in the hands of simple hobbit than in the hands of a mighty wizard.
It's TOBACCO. I'm sick and tired of reactors playing dumb and thinking it's "weed". IT IS NOT: It's frickin tobacco.
If they meant tobacco, they would have said tobacco. They literally said weed. If they didn't want that mistake to be made they should have changed the line. Don't be hating on reactors who have not read any source material to know any different when the movie specifically states its weed. A quick Google search shows the author stating its tobacco but has the same effects as weed, so what's the difference really? Maybe hate on Tolkien or the Director of the movie for not changing it.
"However, the author Tolkien has stated that pipe-weed isn't cannabis. It's a variety of Nicotiana, which he says is tobacco, but because of the cannabis-like effects, many still believe it's marijuana."
@@KalElCanFly The word "weed" had a different definition in the past before it ended up being heavily associated with marijuana in more recent history. Weeds are undesirable plants growing in an area that they're not wanted in. Dandelions are considered weeds. Some weeds are harmful because they are parasitic to other plants or are invasive species. In-universe the Athelas/Kingsfoil plant we see Aragorn using to help slow the poisoning in Frodo's wound is considered a weed by Hobbits but it is not a smoking plant. Hobbits considered it a weed because they thought it was a useless plant due to the knowledge of it being a healing plant being lost to nearly everyone but the Rangers and some elves.
@AngelusBrady I don't have an issue with any of that. My issue was with the original comment being unjustly aggressive for people thinking it was weed when they said weed. While the source material may have meant one thing the movies were made in a different Era and I don't believe you can fault people for making that connection when they had no knowledge of the source material.
@@KalElCanFly I had no knowledge of the source material either when I first watched the movie but I made zero connection with marijuana because I knew the other definition of the word "weed". The other poster didn't have the best attitude but I can understand the frustation since the word "weed" no longer has any relation to harmful garden plants any more.
Movie volume is super low, you can hardly hear anything unless you turn your volume up but then the mic levels are going nuts
Bilbo is actually Frodo's first cousin once removed on Frodo's mother's side, and his second cousin once removed on his father's side. Since that's a bit complicated for anyone other than Hobbits (who simply love family trees), the movies quite sensibly have Frodo refer to Bilbo as his uncle. Legally, Bilbo is also Frodo's adopted father, but since he wasn't far off from adulthood when the adoption happened, he never actually calls him dad or anything like that, in either the movies or the books.
Frodo's parents were drowned when he was around twelve years old, and he lived with Merry's family (Merry's grandfather was the oldest brother of Frodo's mother) for some years before Bilbo ended up adopting him. Pippin is another cousin of Merry's and Frodo's, and the three of them have been as close as brothers all their lives. So when they bump into each other in Farmer Maggot's field, they weren't just some random young thieves who happened to know Frodo's name. There was already a very close friendship in place, and Frodo already knew he could count on their loyal support.
As for the stealing, Frodo used to do that too, and to the same farmer, until the farmer's dogs taught him to leavethosecrops alone (a lesson that stayed with him for years, so that he was actually frightened when he realized whose fields he was crossing on his way out of the Shire, even though he wasn't taking anything). Young Hobbits need a lot of food, and if they've been out and about, it's often easier to raid a nearby garden than to go all the way home six times a day. Stealing small amounts of food from gardens and orchards seems to be an accepted part of Hobbit culture at Merry and Pippin's age. Farmer Maggot's anger would seem to indicate that they've taken more than they should have, but still, it doesn't make them the kind of people who can be expected to hand Frodo over to Sauron in exchange for some veggies. They're mischievous, but they're good people, really.
Before it starts …”It’s so long”
After it ends… “That’s it?!?”
We were hoping for some kind of conclusion to the first part of the story and it left us wanting more.
@@KalElCanFly Just think. The extended version is 30 minutes longer at 208 minutes.
"I never knew there was more than one ring."
It's literally called Lord of the RINGS
True, but in pop culture only the one ring is ever referenced so it was all I was aware of.
Scenes could have been cut?? Lol...they didnt have enough scenes. I would encourage you both to pay close attention to even what you think is insignificant, as none of it is.
Biblo is frodo's uncle.
I think Kal-El will need to get into The Two Towers (second movie) before he begins to be drawn in. And PLEASE go with the extended version for the next two. Just in case you begin to wonder: The rings (other than the ruling ring) were made by an elf under the tutelage of Sauron. When Sauron was teaching the craft he was still able to disguise himself and appeared as a good guy. As soon as Sauron forged the one ring, the elf who made the others woke up and realized what was happening. The elves then hid their three until Sauron was defeated (3000 years before this story begins), when they were able to use them to keep their three regions beautiful, peaceful, and unchanging. The seven given to the dwarves only made them greedy for wealth, causing them to mine too deeply. Those seven were retaken by Sauron or destroyed by dragon fire. We know what happened to the nine given to men.
You were right. I was drawn in way more in the 2nd movie and the 3rd was epic.
@@KalElCanFly So when do we get to see the reactions to the second and third installments of the trilogy?
The 2nd movie is up for all patreon and UA-cam members. 3rd movie will be available for members by this weekend. For the standard UA-cam release it's going to depend on editing and copyright issues. I am hoping for this weekend, but that may be tough.
Bilbo is Frodo's uncle. He adopted Frodo after his parents drowned in a boating accident. Hobbits aren't the best of swimmers.
I’ll send you some links to the maps to explain how far they really are travelling and so forth.
for reference, from the time Bilbo left to when Frodo left, 17 years passed. Gandalf was gone for a long time.
Calling Lord of the Rings a "period" piece would be odd. It isn't, really. It's a whole different WORLD.
Theres been a few comments stating this. I guess what i meant was more so hisorical looking/overly fantastical costumes, horse and carts. I am more of a tech nerd so i prefer more futuristic type enviroments
Elrond is over 6500 years old at this point. Gandalf and the other Istari (wizards) have been in Middle Earth for only about 2000 years.
Enjoying your reactions! You ask why Bilbo wasn't at the Council of Elrond. Tolkien's book is rather different in many ways from the movie, and in the book, Bilbo was at the Council. In fact he offered to take the Ring to Mordor. Everyone smiled at him, but he was serious.
I love that scene. It still shows Bilbo's heroism and his desire still to claim the ring. Gandalf said, "You cannot take this thing back, it has passed on. If you want my advice I should say that your part has ended."
I'm with you on this journey, and it truly will be a journey like no other. The Extended Editions are longer, but they have short scenes which add to the overall story. It may not be to everyones taste to sit through a LONGER film, but once you've watched FOTR then you won't mind watching the other films that are roughly the same length. To put it one way, the EE versions are the top versions to watch. The films were actually cut down for the theatrical release and these films represent the final iteration of what they wanted the films to be.
THank you for joining us on this journey. This is more in Emily's wheelhouse as we diuscussed but she has gone through the Rocky movies and such now its time to open my mind to her style of movies. We have both enjoyed discovering Japanese Anime together as well. We try to have a good selection of content.
So we have finally set upon the greatest journey of all time
Not a period movie its high fantasy.
The Gandalf locked in the Tower bit is explained ONLY in the Unfinished Tales Book: In [manuscript] C The Black Riders arrived at the Gate of Isengard while Gandalf was still a prisoner in the tower. In this account, Saruman, in fear & despair, & perceiving the full horror of service to Mordor, resolved suddenly to yield to Gandalf, & to beg for his pardon & help. Temporizing at the Gate, he admitted that he had Gandalf within, & said that he would go & try to discover what he knew; if that were unavailing, he would deliver Gandalf up to them. Then Saruman hastened to the summit of Orthanc - & found Gandalf gone. Away south against the setting moon he saw a great Eagle flying towards Edoras.
See, the thing is he was always master of studying the enemy & even being able to think like they do to always know exactly the best ways to handle ever situation and so on, but the thing is he didn't just become the enemy, he at this time in a sense for once actually grew afraid of him, probably Sauron did what Sauron did with Finrod Felagund(Galadriel’s elder brother who by the way was very important in the legendarium) which basically widdled Saruman with various visions of the past and future until it wore him down.
I'm glad you two gave this franchise a chance. They only get better and more epic from here. I know your going to enjoy the next two films. Great review!!
Thank you. We did indeed enjoy the next two movies :)
@@KalElCanFly I'm so glad to hear that. I'll be looking forward to those reviews when they are released! 😁
Nazgul aren’t afraid of water. Horses can’t really swim. The Brandywine is a deep and fast-flowing river. Even a good swimmer wouldn’t choose to swim it. The place where Arwen takes Frodo across the shallow fjord is the border of Elrond’s land. The Nazgul fear Elrond and his people, not the water.
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The greatest trilogy of all time.
OF ALL TIME!!!
First time watching your channel. Just searched for LOTR reaction and you popped up. Let’s go on this adventure together! I’m in with you 2
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You’ll love the full scene with Frodo+Sam &Galadriel that even the great Peter Jackson & team didn’t seem to include.. which all this little stuff lead to that scene in the movies which gave it more meaning; & the”one who has seen the eye” thing was a mistake by the team. It gave the wrong message and was not needed as it lead some reactors to be like “so creepy” lol : •[Frodo] stepped back shaking all over & looked at the Lady. “I know what it was that you last saw”, she said; 'for that is also in my mind. Do not be afraid! But do not think that only by singing amid the trees, nor even by the slender arrows of elven-bows, is this land of Lothlórien maintained and defended against its Enemy. I say to you, Frodo, that even as I speak to you, I perceive the Dark Lord and know his mind, or all of his mind that concerns the Elves. And he gropes ever to see me and my thought. But still the door is closed!'
She lifted up her white arms, and spread out her hands towards the East in a gesture of rejection and denial. Eärendil, the Evening Star, most beloved of the Elves, shone clear above. So bright was it that the figure of the Elven-lady cast a dim shadow on the ground. Its rays glanced upon a ring about her finger; it glittered like polished gold overlaid with silver light, and a white stone in it twinkled as if the Evenstar had come down to rest upon her hand. Frodo gazed at the ring with awe; for suddenly it seemed to him that he understood.
'Yes,' she said, divining his thought, 'it is not permitted to speak of it, and Elrond could not do so. But it cannot be hidden from the Ring-bearer, and one who has seen the Eye. Verily it is in the land of Lórien upon the finger of Galadriel that one of the Three remains. This is Nenya, the Ring of Adamant, and I am its keeper.
'He suspects, but he does not know - not yet. Do you not see now wherefore your coming is to us as the footstep of Doom? For if you fail, then we are laid bare to the Enemy. Yet if you succeed, then our power is diminished, and Lothlórien will fade, and the tides of Time will sweep it away. We must depart into the West, or dwindle to a rustic folk of dell and cave, slowly to forget and to be forgotten.'
Frodo bent his head. 'And what do you wish?' he said at last.
'That what should be shall be,' she answered. 'The love of the Elves for their land and their works is deeper than the deeps of the Sea, and their regret is undying and cannot ever wholly be assuaged. Yet they will cast all away rather than submit to Sauron: for they know him now. For the fate of Lothlórien you are not answerable but only for the doing of your own task. Yet I could wish, were it of any avail, that the One Ring had never been wrought, or had remained for ever lost.'
'You are wise and fearless and fair, Lady Galadriel,' said Frodo. 'I will give you the One Ring, if you ask for it. It is too great a matter for me.'
Galadriel laughed with a sudden clear laugh. 'Wise the Lady Galadriel may be,' she said, 'yet here she has met her match in courtesy. Gently are you revenged for my testing of your heart at our first meeting. You begin to see with a keen eye. I do not deny that my heart has greatly desired to ask what you offer. For many long years I had pondered what I might do, should the Great Ring come into my hands, and behold! it was brought within my grasp. The evil that was devised long ago works on in many ways, whether Sauron himself stands or falls. Would not that have been a noble deed to set to the credit of his Ring, if I had taken it by force or fear from my guest?
'And now at last it comes. You will give me the Ring freely! In place of the Dark Lord you will set up a Queen. And I shall not be dark, but beautiful and terrible as the Morning and the Night! Fair as the Sea and the Sun and the Snow upon the Mountain! Dreadful as the Storm and the Lightning! Stronger than the foundations of the earth. All shall love me and despair!'
She lifted up her hand and from the ring that she wore there issued a great light that illuminated her alone and left all else dark. She stood before Frodo seeming now tall beyond measurement, and beautiful beyond enduring, terrible and worshipful. Then she let her hand fall, and the light faded, and suddenly she laughed again, and lo! she was shrunken: a slender elf-woman, clad in simple white, whose gentle voice was soft and sad.
'I pass the test,' she said. 'I will diminish, and go into the West and remain Galadriel.'
They stood for a long while in silence. At length the Lady spoke again. 'Let us return!' she said. 'In the morning you must depart for now we have chosen, and the tides of fate are flowing.'
'I would ask one thing before we go,' said Frodo, 'a thing which I often meant to ask Gandalf in Rivendell. I am permitted to wear the One Ring: why cannot I see all the others and know the thoughts of those that wear them?'
'You have not tried,' she said. 'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do not try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you that the rings give power according to the measure of each possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and to train your will to the domination of others. Yet even so, as Ring-bearer and as one that has borne it on finger and seen that which is hidden, your sight has grown keener. You have perceived my thought more clearly than many that are accounted wise. You saw the Eye of him that holds the Seven and the Nine. And did you not see and recognize the ring upon my finger? Did you see my ring?' she asked turning again to Sam.
'No, Lady,' he answered. 'To tell you the truth, I wondered what you were talking about. I saw a star through your finger. But if you'll pardon my speaking out, I think my master was right. I wish you'd take his Ring. You'd put things to rights. You'd stop them digging up the gaffer and turning him adrift. You'd make some folk pay for their dirty work.'
'I would,' she said. 'That is how it would begin. But it would not stop with that, alas! We will not speak more of it. Let us go!'
When] at last all that [Galadriel] had desired in her youth came to her hand, the Ring of Power and the peaceful rule of Middle-earth which she had dreamed... her wisdom was full grown and she rejected it....
Meaning definitely by now it’s become trivial to her. Even back in the day he couldn’t find her or pierce her mind and whenever he went looking for her presence he boils t find her ALL AT THE SAME TIME AS HER BEING ABLE TO READ HIS OWN MIND WITHOUT HIM KNOWING! Often times even from a great distance. That’s power. Just one calm look from her is all it takes to send even the Nazgûl run away from her. They even avoid her realm entirely both because of its own power as well as they know exactly who she is and her exact lineage through themselves being very old. 4000+years old. Especially the WitchKing(head Nazgûl). Remember Númenorean men are not like other average men. They were known to be rather superhuman and very tall. Between 6-8 feet.
Really, really hope you watch the extended versions of the next to films. Yes they are long (about 4h for the next and about 4 1/2h for the final film) but I feel they are soo worth it. There is a lot more character development and story info given. I don't think you'll be disappointed, I watch a lot of first time reactions to these films, especially when it's the extended versions of the films they are watching. Most don't even tend to notice the long run time and if they do they don't really care cause they are so engrossed in the story. Enjoyed watching you two's reaction to this. looking forward to the next ones even if they aren't the extended versions.👍👍
We did do the extended version of the last two movies. The Two Towers is already available for our members and Return of The King will be available within the next day or two. They will both be up on UA-cam this weekend and next weekend.
BTW even in the extended version some things were left out from the book if you are watching the theater release version then you are missing a lot. I can't think of a thing that can be removed and still make sense, no way could you cut 45 minutes from the movie. A few points of clarification: Frodo is Bilbo's nephew (he took him in when his parents drowned), the battle that killed Saron was 3,000 years ago 2,500 years passed before Gollum found the ring and he had it for 500 years before it abandoned him. BTW even in the books there are several plot holes, but most readers don't care because they enjoy the story. The Lord of the Rings (LOTR) has had a huge influence on the fantasy genre, it's considered the father of epic fantasy, several books have imitated the story in full or in part, even Dungeons & Dragons is based on LOTR. The Hobbit was 1st published in 1937 and LOTR 1st book 1954 and the next 2 in 1955. Before LOTR Elves were little people/spirits after LOTR Elves were seen as human sized, though you still get the occasional small elf (I'm looking at you Keebler Cookies, LOL).
Lord of the Rings is not really a trilogy. It's one very long story that Tolkien wrote as six "books," but his publisher chose to publish as three volumes, named exactly as they are the movies.
And I've recently discovered that Tolkien himself hated the name of the third part. Felt it gave too much away.
I’m excited for you both to journey to Middle Earth! Of all the fandoms I love, this will always remain on top. I firmly believe everyone who watches can find at least one thing that they truly love or completely relate to. It might be character, or the scenery, but it will really start to hit you in the chest with those universal moments that make a story immortal. The meaning you find for yourself is what really matters in this story.
I’m sure you’ll be bombarded with explanations, because like some have already said, this story is the culmination of 40 years spent building this world. It’s rich, detailed, andso purposefully done with specific intention. Tolkien did this for fun, and though it essentially created the modern fantasy genre, this was his attempt to write an actual myth. Because even King Arthur was “too French” 😂
Have fun! And May the Blessings of Elves, Men, and Free Folk go with you.
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Elves (show an Elf), Men (show a man), and (show a Dwarf)….all Free Folk.
Elves and Dwarves don’t get along, so this is just more “my friends-and Zoidberg”
@@isaackellogg3493 and here I was thinking it meant Elves and Men are Unfree 🤓jk
They could’ve done well to include a Hobbit in the shot too, but now that you put it that way, it’s something hilarious I’ve never noticed. I can see Elrond throwing some subtle disses like that. And now it seems it could also be a hint to even more subtle dissing. “We are the First and Second Children of the actual One God. He created us personally, everyone else is not special, and obviously very free to do what they want!”
Don't think of the trilogy as separate movies, more like one long film cut into 3 parts, I get that you didn't feel much resolution, but think about how much you now know about this world... and this is just the beginning, the introduction to the world and players. From here it just gets better and better, in my personal opinion... though parts of the second film are some of my favorite scenes throughout all the films.
One of my favorite behind the scenes bit of trivia is about that final fight scene. Aragorn is fighting the big guy, and at one point hits a knife thrown at him out of the air with his sword. The actor actually did that. The other actor's throw was off, hard to see through all the makeup, and the knife was flying a lot too close. Aragorn's actor was the last main character cast, and so he had the least amount of time for sword training before filming started, not much at all. His trainer however, said he was one of the best students he ever had, took to it like it was instinctive.
The entire series was filmed in New Zealand and they even have the Shire built there for tourism purpose
Great reaction! This is my favorite film franchise. The biggest thing this movie doesn't cover is the amount of time between movements, like when Frodo inherits the ring(age 33) to when he leaves the Shire(age 51). We're talkin' 17 years.
Some behind-the-scenes knowledge:
In the scene following Gandalf's death, when they're outside Moria, the casting was not complete for Gandalf, and Ian McKellen had not yet joined so the actors are crying over an actor they don't know yet.
John Rhys Davis, the actor who played Gimli, was very allergic to the adhesive for his beard
When Aragorn is fighting the Uruk-hai captain and he throws the dagger the actor Viggo Mortensen had to deflect a real dagger coming at his head instead of the prop dagger.
When Sam follows Frodo into the river they thought they searched the river bank well so that the actor Sean Astin wouldn't cut himself on anyting walking into the water barefoot, but they missed a piece of glass and it went all the way through his foot and he had to be airlifted to the nearest hospital. He had 20 stitches.
I hope you watch the extended edition for the other two movies, that's my advice. Yes, they're 4 hours each, but worth it!!
We did watch the two towers today, we also did do the extended cut but we will make 2 videos out of it.
Also, Thank you for those behind the scenes comments.
The movies fail to give you a good picture of the time. Between Frodo receiving the ring and him starting from his home are about 19 years he is about 50 when he starts.
Actually the dwarves are rather immune to the rings power as when they had the 7 of what was meant to be the 16 elven rings redistributed to them it had no effect on them. Especially due to the fact their forefathers were created by the hands of Aulë of the Valar. And they are not greedy! They are highly noble and strong. Their ancestors could take out dragons. You can go into detail in reactions like moviejoob did. She’s the only one aside from a few channels that’s making it popular and it’s working as hundreds more are falling in love with it all. ❤️❤️❤️❤️
In the book it takes them 17 years before they even find out that Frodo has to leave
The extended editions are better. You miss stuff by not watching them. For example, you saw galadriel give frodo the light. But in the extended edition, she gives the others gifts also. Daggers to merry and pippen. Rope to sam. A bow to legolas.
What could possibly have been cut? I mean, they cut down the book so much already and they did a phenomenal job of introducing us to everyone, the mythos, the locations, the constant dangers that are drawn to the Ring. Its so funny to me that anyone could want LESS LOTR when all I want is MORE (and I don't mean the Hobbit or ROP which are trash). I want the 1300 hours of unreleased footage from LOTR they filmed in New Zealand when they made the trilogy 😂
I was wondering that myself. Anything you cut would remove vital character moments, eliminate important thematical elements, or shorten the action sequences. Of course, they talked over some of the nice character moments, so I am guessing they aren't really into that sort of thing.
Frodo and Samwise are not the hobbits’ actual names-they are the English translations of their actual names; Samwise Gamgee’s name for instance was Banazîr Galpsi.
yes, Banazir Galpsi. And Frodo Baggins is "English" translation of hobbit name - Maura Labingi. But what is realy important for my view of Tolkien's world is that Frodo is actual, real name borrowed by Tolkien from medieval Danish chronicle ("Gesta Danorum" by Saxo Grammaticus written in 13th century but telling much older stories) where there are at least 4 Danish kings named in (Old Icelandic) Frodi or in (Old Norse) Frode. While Froda is the name's version in Old English (Anglosaxon) language. Tolkien's hero name was only latinised by added "o" (see Frodo, Saxo, Otto - Germanic names latinised by Latin chronicles of medieval monks). There are more connections between Frodo from LOTR, and one of those vikings kings named Frodi - not only the name. One of the connections is that king Frode (AFAIR Frode IV) wanted to rule peacefuly so he denounced the vikings customs of vengence between clans and that his land was so prosperous and peaceful that "golden rings" can be left alone on the road and would not be stolen. :) AFAIR it was this king who also was betrayed during a festival and assasinated. This connection is not in the movie but in the book one of the enemies tries to assasinate Frodo in his own land. The name itself is one of (rare for hobbits) meaningful names - it comes from the Old Norse word "fród" which means "wise". And the friend and counterpart of Frodo is Samwise - that name means "half-wise". As Tolkien was a linguist and knew like 30 languages (that guy studied the Bible in Old Gothic language from 5th century, translated Finnish epic poem "Kalevala" and learned Welsh just to be able to read Celtic folklore of "Mabinogion") he was able to invent many languages for his Arda world. I've seen on Amazon bookstore a book about Tolkien's languages and the title of this book mentiones 14 languages of his invention. While the 3 most developed and able to be used for example to write poems are Quenya and Sindarin - two elven languages and Adunaic - a language of Numenorians - a tribe of mortal humans (ancestors of Aragorn). There are dictionaries of these languages, like Sindarin dictionary.
The orc with the helmet when Galadriel said the mount doom on the opening battle thats my top fav orc also another one sharpening the sword too
What seemed like a short amount time for Gandalf to be close to mount Doom in the beginning; was really him gone for 7 years researching the magic ring that Bilbo found. Plus, once they knew they had the One Ring they had to take their time not to be caught by the enemies servants.
17 years. But still a lovely comment ❤️
17 years. Bilbo was 33 at the party, 50 when he left for Bree and then onwards.
The powerful words Gandalf speaks-
ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk, ag burzum-ishi krimpatul-
are the words written on the One Ring,
“one Ring to rule them all, one Ring to find them, one Ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them”
in the Black Speech of Mordor.
You can see the effect they have in Rivendell (Imladris in the elven-tongue), and so you can understand why Gandalf decided not to utter them in Bag-End. Elrond took umbrage at Gandalf uttering them in his kingdom, which had successfully fought off besieging orcs for centuries, but as Gandalf pointed out, if they did not succeed in destroying the One Ring, it was a language that would soon be spoken by conquering armies in all of the formerly free lands of the West.
About the hobbits' swords: In the book, they get them under totally different (and more realistic) circumstances from a character who did not make it into any productions of Lord of the Rings: Tom Bombadil. That story line would have thrown the pacing way,, way off.
The scene with "looks fairer and feels fouler" lines between Frodo and Merry is also interesting for me becouse its one of those early scenes in the movie when we can see the differences between the main hobbits. At the inn (of the prancing pony) Sam's general behaviour was showed - that he usualy looks about for possible threats for Frodo "that man in the corner" and acts accordingly "I'll have you Longshanks" (btw Longshanks was one of other names Strider was called by the people of Bree). Merry is from an old and rich family of practical people who plans for long time as they are sort of governonrs of big province of the Shire (Buckland - thats why Merry knew about "Buckleberry Ferry" it was near his home :) Its very good to remember that from those 4 only Sam is a gardener for hire the other boys are from higher class - Pippin's dad is actualy Than of the Shire, which is smt like king's governor for the Shire obligated to protect all land in a time of crisis. Frodo is from old and respected clan about which he speaks with Gandalf at the start of the movie. Only Bilbo was not respected in Baggins family becouse he got on adventures in far a way lands. :) And Merry is the most strategic mind of all 4 hobbits. Pippin is showed in the movie as the unpredictable joker becouse he was the youngest in the book (5 years before the age of adulthood as hobbits count it at 33 - btw Frodo is 33 at the first scene and Bilbo's b-day party was also Frodo's b-day party in the book), Sam is humble servant who simply idolised Frodo even before the Quest, and Frodo is more introspective and intuitive. So Merry thinks more far-sighted than Sam but is also more down to earth than Frodo - Merry evaluates only what he sees (Aragorn, or other persons) while Frodo looks deeper into things and persons (as he did in the book scenes in his meetings with other charachters). And IMO in the movie he is showed as the one of the hobbits with the most intuitive thinking. Frodo was scholar and poet in the book. Thats why the line of "feels fouler and looks fairer" was his line from the book, although in the book he spoke it to Strider not Merry. :)
The elves were the first beings and some of the first elves even walked with the lesser gods when they were on the planet. The evil guy was a lesser God. When invisible froth is in like the dark realm. Gandalf and the elves glow in that realm. My limited knowledge from what I have read and understand.
Froth, and his companions Sath, Meth and Pith!
Every zero exposure first time LOTR reactor ever, before watching: "3 hours is impossible!"
Same reactor as the credits start rolling: "it CAN'T be over already...queue up the next one!"
Wait....we are only showing 4 seconds of Gandalfs death???? Nah ain't not way
another note, since there seemed to be some confusion. Bilbo is Frodo's uncle.
Gandalf on horse in that scene is near Gondorian capital Minas Tirith which is also near Mordor's borders - like 2 weeks of march for an army to the border Black Gate and another 2 weeks to the Mountain. But actual distance from the Shire to the Mountain can be like from Wales to Croatia.
I think it would be impossible for an adult to watch these films and then forget them later in life.
Plus you're not watching the extended edition so that's a mark against.
Emily has a habit of falling asleep during movies. Especially in a movie theatre. She and I were not together at that time ans was also a single mother of 2 children, it is very feasible for someone who is a tired single mother with a history off falling asleep during movies to not remember the movie.
Whats not exactly translated from the books to the movies, the trip gandalf did at the begining of the move was MONTHS long i belive 15 months at least before he returned to the shire. Thats why its taking them soooo long
Seventeen *years* actually.
17 years!!
I hope you are going to watch "behind the scenes" materials (for your own fun not specificaly for reaction video) becouse one of my fav is about two acclaimed Tolkien illustrators, artists J. Howe and A. Lee who made all these general plans of architecture and landscapes and creatures. The two of them were concept-artists in this movie. AFAIR Howe is also specialist of armours and weapons and he arrived in New Zealand with his own set of armours as a model - how to make a plate armour - for the filmmakers. AFAIR at first they wanted to make all of the swords and such just from foam and from aluminium. But they could not get the proper weight of such sword for the training of the actors, and the proper colors of such aluminium swords for camera. So they decided to forge swords from proper materials instead. Howe AFAIR helped them to build proper smithy to develop hundreds of pieces of weapons and armors. The weapons of main heroes and first line soldiers were always real weapons - made in smithy from real steel. Only the background charachters in the armies got gum/foam weapons. And we must rememeber that for any of main heroes their sets of armors and weapons (swords, knives, axes) had to be made in at least 3 versions. One proper heavy weapons for actors training (behind camera), one beautiful and shiny set of weapons for scenes with close ups on the weapons (like the scene when Bilbo gives Frodo his sword), AFAIR one other set for scenes with stunts, and then part of these sets of weapons had to be copied for the use of 5 short doubles of main actors. We have to remember that most of props from the scenes with persons of two sizes were also doubled - tables, cups, chandeliers, bagpacks, everythings was made in two sizes, for tall and for short charachters. And all this material about making weapons in their smithy is such fun how they present the process of forging and decorating the weapons, not every sword but also decoration on every sword was planned according to who will use it and to what kind of acting. For example they made Aragorn's sword (ranger sword) with the addition of little knife - for daily use in travels - wore in leather satchel on the sword's grip.
You need to turn the volume of the movie to balance out the sound. I had to turn it way up in order to hear it which makes your voices WAY too loud. Thanks