@@emmanuel.n8458 By not having an income while having to pay for rent, food etc. while he was fully focused on making beats. So basically he was investing his savings into an opportunity.
It's because people fall for the trap of listening to their idols and people who have 'made it' solely for advice. They all say the same "believe in yourself", "don't give up" and the like because these worked for them. Getting advice and wisdom from those that did not 'make it' is every bit if not more important than from your idols. You can entrap yourself into believing you WILL Succeed if you work hard and believe in yourself, but the reality is even then it is difficult. Many people make no mistakes and do well and still fail. Life is hard and not everyone will succeed.
Thank you for telling us this story. I appreciate the vulnerability and applaud your bravery (to me it's bravery). I hope I'll have the strength to overcome that bs if it happens to me.
I use to get these emails from “interecope records AnRs” and they’d say stuff like “we’re offering a insert large amount of money” with free hotel stays and food etc, but there was a 200 fee and I never fell for these, but my friend did he was just starting out as a artist he lost 250 dollars and his dreams to be a artist. To this day I try to convince him to try again. This happend back in 2020 when everyone was stuck inside. sad thing is he’s a decent artist just wasn’t carful enough.
Ever hear the story of the Zen master who meet everything in life with 'Maybe so'....? He loses his horse and the neighbors say 'bad luck'....his response...'Maybe so'...The Horse returns with more horses.... His son injures his leg on one of the horses. the neighbors say 'bad luck'....his response...'Maybe so'...His son doesn't have to join the war because of the injury and is spared a foul death for a corrupt emperor. ....ect. ect. He is wise enough to know there is no good or bad....it is as it is and there is a silver lining under all that 'bad' stuff that is priceless....wisdom. You probably became a better producer while working at it instead of making sandwiches like the RZA in that Seth Rogan flick. Einstein
I have been my brother's sole producer 4 the longest. There was somebody claimin' the role of a representative from a label in the UK...All they would need was all of his financial information 2 send over a contract & all kinds of stuff that didn't make sense. I immediately gave him the heads up something was fishy & he called their bluff. Granted, we had a rough time, I never regret the decision, 'cause could've been made way worse from that. 🙏🏼💯
Had a work colleague asking for me to share my beats so he can "have new ringtones" for his phone....VERY suspicious. I said I'd only share the ones that weren't valuable
Ugh. As a fellow producer, this story pisses me off SO MUCH. Don't blame yourself, dude. Sure, you missed the signs, but almost anyone put in that position would have. Blame the shitty person/people who chose to scam you. Everyone always wants the shortcut in life, and it's really frustrating to see how many people they're willing to step on to get there. People suck.
Dude, you have no idea how many producers you just helped by putting this story out there. Now if we ever find ourselves in a similar situation, this story will pop up in the back of our mind and we will be skeptical thanks to you. Appreciate you brother. Peace.
what did you learn? That if Eminem emails you tomorrow, you should possibly check it is actually him? 🤣🤣🤣 "dr dre emailed me yesterday, im going to spend a year making his next album and spend my 15k on food and drinks lol
@@zwicker5585 i did lol a kid emailed him and pretended to be Kendrick Lamar 😂... in UK we laugh at mistakes, its humour, don't take offence, laugh and move on.
@@zwicker5585 Dude. he got emailed by a kid pretending to be kendrick lamar, and without confirming spent all his money he saved up in hope he produced kendrick laamars new album. Listen, if 50 cent hits u up tomorrow via email, get a confirmation its him please bro. Stop being silly lol its not a scam, its a kid after some beats to write too, they cant be used anyway, the production is by said person who will expose a stolen beat. come on kid.....
@@zwicker5585he had dropped good kid mad city, became the biggest artist on the planet & his manager didn't reach out, it was the same kid having a laugh lol... but as you're fixed on the fake manager now, its even worse. Not 1 phone call with him? not 1 video call? not nothing but an email.... Jesus Christ, come on.
Man, it's hard not to feel bad for you for the experience but as someone who is very new to the production game and music industry, this was a very inspiring but more importantly educational video. A pretty good heads-up for people to avoid scams. Thankyou for this video and for letting out an embarrasing experience! It'l serve as a good lesson for your viewers.
HEY NAV, you are one of my favorite people on UA-cam I tune in every Tuesday to catch your videos the reason I feel more of a connection with your platform is because of your genuine nature it connects and resonates with people like me. That story of you being scammed out of your whole life savings is the reason I love your channel and content you aren’t afraid to tell it how it is and I love that about you. Thank you for your story every up and coming beat maker or producer needed to hear that. Keep being genuine and honest and your story will connect with more people like myself. Peace and love
Sadly, we’re sometimes the guinea pig that’s put through an unfavorable experience in order for others to learn. But to put things into perspective, just know that your story alone could be saving hundreds of thousands of producers and music artists around the world. I needed this video, thank you Navie
That really sucks, but your story will hopefully help others be more cautious. Thanks for allowing yourself to be vulnerable enough to share your experience.💯👑
This randomly popped up on my algorithm. I appreciate the courage it took to share your story and I am certain that many people will be kept safe through it. Your story is an inspiration. Keep up the great work, sir!
I think many or most people would have done the same thing in your situation. Unfortunately, good people get taken advantage of sometimes, myself included. I appreciate your warning to us all. Using your situation to create good in this world and support others. I’m sure karma will come back around to them. Much respect.
Thanks for sharing. It happens way too often, unfortunately. I had just posted online about how the new hustle continues to be to lure upcoming artists into thinking they will catch that big break in the game and become a superstar. It's all over the place today on socials. Building relationships continues to be the key to getting your name out there...just be careful 💯
Man, I can definitely relate to this. I got a placement on a Cole Bennett video when I was 19 back in 2017, and I had a ton of fake "managers" hit me up trying to scam me out of beats and money. Thankfully my beats were ass and I was already broke, so I just kept my head down and kept grinding. It sucked at first, laying low for so long, but I would have been played like a damn fiddle at that age, and now I'm 25, more aware of my choices, and my production is 100x better I'm thinking I'm ready to jump back in the game. More producers need to share stories like this because it drove us away from the game for so long.
I have so much respect for you for choosing your passion over a job, but just like myself, you have felt the dark side! Its an awful feeling when realizing you are the victim and so, no one should judge a scammed person, because the scammer spends so much time planning and feeds on your weaknesses. Keep up the great work, you are awesome!
Thank you for sharing, man. These kinds of stories might be more important to hear than the success stories. It’s awesome that you’ve bounced back and made a career that is truly yours and yours alone. Inspiring.
Thank you so much for sharing this story with us.Its shows you have humility want to make other producer's aware of the scams in the industry.Much respect and appreciation 🙏💯
While I feel bad that this happened to you, I'm also kind of glad it did, or at least that your journey brought you here. I've learned so much about production from you, I like that you're such a genuine dude and it's easy to learn from you because you make things make sense without talking down to beginners; I also like that you break down what you're doing in the DAW and how it affects the sound you're applying things to. I'm sincerely glad that you're in a place where you're doing well and feeling more fulfilled, and grateful that you share your knowledge with the rest of us.
I’m going to take this as confirmation. I’ve been on this journey for 3 years and I’m finally coming out of my shell and putting my beats out there. A few have gotten a little attention but mainly from scammers. I had this one dude say he was working on an album with Benny The Butcher and Dave East. He wanted me to make the melodies and he’d make the drums. But I had to send him $150 dollars and the loops to get though. I asked him when was the deadline because I at least know they have deadlines. He said just send all that when I can. I never sent anything and that was a month ago. I haven’t heard from him since then. 😂
A similar thing happened to me. This person messaged me on Instagram and told me he worked with Dave East and that he had an opportunity for me. He told me that if I pay him something like 400 dollars he could connect me with Dave East and Nas lmao.
I could never thank you enough for this honest in-depth tutorial on life’s realities. I hope all who hear this realize the complexities related to this modern world of commutative on line interaction that use to only take place with a face to face meeting. So many can easily hide and portray who they are not in this shark eat shark business. Thank you for teaching each of us this incredibly invaluable lesson. I will obey your request to not feel bad for you but let me tell you, what you ask is very, very difficult to not feel bad for you. Thanks again NavieD.
I'm not a producer, but I am studying graphic design (so within the creative realm). One thing a couple of my teachers have brought up is the importance of contracts, and knowing how to charge for our work. There are actually a few books that can help and even provide templates. One is: The 11 contracts that every artist, songwriter and producer should know. Another thing my teachers suggested was taking a business class, which I did. I know as creatives all we want to do is create cool stuff and not worry about all the paperwork lol but it's good to know. Anyway, I hope this helps somebody.
props man, you wasnt no fool. Dirty world coming at a young man like that. I really dig your videos, I didnt know you worked with Joey. He is my #47. When I found that out, I was certain I was in the right place. So tragic to hear what happened... You are an excellent teacher, producer, human and artist bruh!
I've been in a similar situation man. These scammers be doing the most and at first you think to yourself. Why would anyone scam a producer? They can't even use the snippets you send etc. But they have a whole plan to make you lower your guard. Glad you came back stronger and thank you for sharing this story, I'm glad I'm not alone. I appreciate you.
Harsh but important experince and by sharing it you help others to not fall for it. Especially nowadays when everyone just want to look great, you got my respect.
Such a heartfelt, but beautiful story of yours! Shows how life is full of highs and lows, but more than anything how you overcame it and live to tell the tale! Much love bro x
Thank you so much for sharing this story Navie, I know it must have taken a lot to even make this video. You’re not a fool for this situation, anyone in their right mind would’ve thought that was Shipes emailing you. I remember the day that Underground Airplay came out also, because I was a huge fan of PE, K.R.I.T., and DZA at the time. Had no idea that you produced it, that was a track I had on repeat for years! Respect to you and thank you for sharing your story, because this can happen to literally everyone. Also, have no idea how you reached out to Joey at the time, I’ve reached out to so many artists personally to send beats over the years and I have only gotten a few placements. If you could make a video as to how to grow your fanbase off of beats, I think this would help a lot of us here, especially the ones who don’t necessarily want to sell their beats, but want to be known for their instrumental projects. Any feedback on this I would appreciate, because this is something I’ve been trying to figure out for a very long time. Much love and I hope you have a good week! (Also still yearning for a viewer feedback video, I got a whole army of beats that need some feedback)
Hey Navie, thanks for talking about this, I felt pretty ashamed I almost fell for sending a beat to a guy claiming to be C-Lance the other day (but I clarified with the real C-Lance before I sent it). Much Love dude, sorry this happened to your dream.
Oh man. That's so painful to watch. But thanks for sharing this important story. Hope you and that singer found your peace. She did the right thing. But I get how you can react with denial. Music biz is a fucked up mess attracting so many toxic people. Had my fair part of experience over more than 10 years. Know your worth. If something seems too good to be true double and triple check it. And never let any of that destroy your fun of creating and making music.
Man, this sucks! I wasn’t as blatantly scammed like this but I was somewhat ripped off by someone I looked up to and trusted in the industry a while back. I’ve heard it’s very commonplace, a lot of people have similar experiences. Thanks for sharing 👊🏻
thanks for sharing this. hope you know you did nothing wrong. you were just following your dream. and taken advantage of. you seem like a level headed, caring guy. i hope none of this has shaken that. take care friend.
I remember getting scammed by Jermaine Dupri some years back. He had an audition in Dallas for one of his new artists, Dondria and he charged the musicians to audition. I remember one of the judges was one of my friends ( not anymore) and some years later, he finally confessed that the audition was a scam. He had already gotten the gig but was paid to be a judge, knowing the whole time he already had the position. The music game is an evil place man and they will take advantage of your ambition and determination. Beware. P.S. I also heard Aldam Blackstone used to have paid auditions as well... SCAMmer
Really sorry you had to go through that, its absolutely horrible and morally depraved that people prey upon other people's dreams. Music is already so personal to our souls, we let it roam our body and minds in hopes of creating something beautiful with it for other people to rejoice in as well. To have somebody come along and tear emotions, sacrifice and time from you just so they can make a buck is just mad. We appreciate you my guy!
Thank you bro. Cause I’ve been offered many “placements” for lack of better words as an artist & also lots of fake offers for deals & rn I’m getting an offer that seems realer then ever cuz they aren’t asking for money (yet) & they haven’t been pushy at all & they even had like an official Empire Distribution Email when they emailed me but this makes me want to double triple check every angle of this. Cause it was just some random guy on Instagram like you said, that messaged me & connected me with all this. But he hasn’t asked for money, just said “mention my name if needed” so we’ll see what happens. But thanks for being transparent to the world about your hard time. This seems like a nightmare but for some reason I feel like the silver lining is above all the coolest part of the story & that’s you getting to produce that song for Joey & Krit & DZA, cuz they’re legends to me. 🎉 keep doing what you love - regardless if it’s music. 🕊️☀️
most of those big artists only pick beats from people theyve met in the studio or in real life. but ive had a similar "opportunity" and after it failed i quit making music for others or seeing it as a way of surviving in life or building up a music career.
That’s Incredibly Dope that you worked with Joey, I research all the time trying to get information on Hip Hop, So I get shocked know and then tying things together such as seeing “Prod. Navie D” on Joey song & seeing your youtube channel. Bless you & ye’ future brethren.
First I want to thank you for being honest and talking about what I’m sure was an incredibly painful experience for you. I went through a similar situation I think my situation ended up much worse than yours because I ended up homeless. And this is why I don’t respond to your emails. I am afraid of being scammed. I do want to learn to do this I know I can do this professionally and make a good living but I can’t take chances and be scammed. I hope there’s a way for me and you can communicate on a real level someday because I do think I can learn from you and I also think I have some things to offer But at the moment I’m financially broke still trying to recover from being taken advantage of so I have not been able to respond to your emails or subscribe to your lessons
Scammers are always pulling on peoples heartstrings. It sucks man, but you came out on top. Love, your videos ! Amazing producer, inspiring content creator, and from what I can see a overall genuine human . I’m so glad you didn’t quit 🎉
To think of all that refinement that went into your craft by sculpting those beats for the facade album and how that ripples through to today in how you drop gems for the producer community. Everything happens for a reason albeit not always how we want it to happen. Thank for everything Navie!!
If it's any consolation, i genuinely think you're one of the best talents on youtube in the production industry and it's only a matter of time before someone with say recognizes that .. love your content!
You are one of the most brilliant and much more equipped human beings in the music business! We love you so much and remember that where you are right now is always better than where you would have been with your former presumed dream!! God bless you, brother!!!
So real! Thank you for stepping up to tell the story. It helps all of us novices more than you'll ever know. Impressive. Community is how we beat the odds and smack back the scammers.
Thank you for sharing many of us in the business have similar stories of loss and lessons learnt.I can say the comeback is often bittersweet but lessons learnt for me is the game changer.
And you are definitely successful today with all the experiences (good and bad). The power of social media is uncontrollable these days, online exposure is essential for artists, and it usually comes with unexpected risks. Thanks so much for sharing! I am glad that the ordeal is over for you. It's just money lost and not your great values and talent.
I'm reminded of something I read while reading the Yu Gi Oh manga of all things; "Trust your friends, but always cut the deck." Don't shy away from people or opportunities but take precautions. It's not your fault if someone takes advantage of you, it really isn't, but you've gotta take measures to protect yourself.
This video was very eye-opening and informative. In the age where everyone is trying to only show the glamorous side of life, it's refreshing to hear an honest story about vulnerability. Thank you for sharing!
Great video, so important for young producers to be aware of these types of scams. As somebody who's been in the industry for many years I can tell you it's all about real in person relationships. Meet people face to face or have reputable management/representation. Start with smaller/indy artists and just do great work, you will eventually work your way up to the bigger artists. People are always looking for a fast track or "big opportunity", truth is for most it takes years to get to that level regardless of how good your music is.
Thanks for Sharing bro. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Happy you’ve put it behind. Doesn’t make you a less great producer and teacher. Glad rose above it and your positive attitude. Keep up the good work. 💪
Well.. you had in your hands all the time the most important thing nman... The knowledge and skill for doing new beats.The Earth is happy for you to not giving up, ty man!!!
Damn man, I've watched your tutorials for a year or so. I just watched this, and SMH. Scratch that "I" suck. People suck. You seem to have good morals and people that don't will do ANYTHING for money. I dont even know you like that but, I'm sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing this.
Glad you were so candid. Hopefully others learn from your mistake. Can still make beats just for passion though. Doesn’t have to be only about making money.
Hey man I appreciate your story. thank you for sharing and helping us to be aware of how, in our quest to become great producers, we can fall victim to scams. I will do my best to be vigilant. Thank you Navie
Thank you, the amount of effort those scammers went through just to potentially ruin someone’s life is just insane, we are all glad you eventually found your path!
I fell prey to a different but similar scam in a different creative industry and I feel the pain. Just know it doesnt make you a failure even if it forces you to step away from your art momentarily.
thank you for sharing this story. some scammer messaged me using the name of a new york radio dj (pretty sure it was hot97) and he showered with compliments however i knew he wanted something in return. i wanted to be nice so i said thank you then he asked me if I ever got radio play? he asked me to send him a song so he can tell me about prices however i stopped because i have no money and because why would a big radio station want to work with me when they make millions playing major label artists. turned out it was a fake page but it seemed believable because someone i know followed that fake page.
great video, i had a my own experience of scamming in a totally different situation. I was scammed of a 7k pair of shoes and and ended up falling into a hole just like you. We just have to keep pushing and fortunately we can use it as a lesson for the future.
Don't feel bad for me. I am a happy lad now :)
If you also have any embarrassing stories of getting scammed, feel free to share them!
How did you lose $15000 by just making beat using the same daws n plugins you already have in your possession?
You a real g for sharing and showing
@@emmanuel.n8458 15k in sounds packs lol
@@potatorigs2155 😆 yea rite. Anything for clicks nowadays
@@emmanuel.n8458 By not having an income while having to pay for rent, food etc. while he was fully focused on making beats. So basically he was investing his savings into an opportunity.
Its strangely refreshing to hear real life vulnerable stories in this polished social media world... ♥️
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Just go outside bro. There's life to live 🙏🏾
What’s so strange about it? You laid out the logic. It seems pretty straightforward
It's because people fall for the trap of listening to their idols and people who have 'made it' solely for advice. They all say the same "believe in yourself", "don't give up" and the like because these worked for them. Getting advice and wisdom from those that did not 'make it' is every bit if not more important than from your idols. You can entrap yourself into believing you WILL Succeed if you work hard and believe in yourself, but the reality is even then it is difficult. Many people make no mistakes and do well and still fail. Life is hard and not everyone will succeed.
Thank you for telling us this story. I appreciate the vulnerability and applaud your bravery (to me it's bravery). I hope I'll have the strength to overcome that bs if it happens to me.
🙏🙏 thank you for the kind words DT
Thank you for sharing this story!😢wish you the best things in life!🙌
The world is full of scammers, but there is only one Navie D brother thank you for sharing and warning others
Thank you Johnnnn
Don't feel bad for me, I am a happy lad now :)
If you have any embarrassing stories like this, feel free to share!
I use to get these emails from “interecope records AnRs” and they’d say stuff like “we’re offering a insert large amount of money” with free hotel stays and food etc, but there was a 200 fee and I never fell for these, but my friend did he was just starting out as a artist he lost 250 dollars and his dreams to be a artist. To this day I try to convince him to try again. This happend back in 2020 when everyone was stuck inside. sad thing is he’s a decent artist just wasn’t carful enough.
Ever hear the story of the Zen master who meet everything in life with 'Maybe so'....?
He loses his horse and the neighbors say 'bad luck'....his response...'Maybe so'...The Horse returns with more horses....
His son injures his leg on one of the horses. the neighbors say 'bad luck'....his response...'Maybe so'...His son doesn't have to join the war because of the injury and is spared a foul death for a corrupt emperor.
....ect. ect. He is wise enough to know there is no good or bad....it is as it is and there is a silver lining under all that 'bad' stuff that is priceless....wisdom.
You probably became a better producer while working at it instead of making sandwiches like the RZA in that Seth Rogan flick.
Einstein
I have been my brother's sole producer 4 the longest. There was somebody claimin' the role of a representative from a label in the UK...All they would need was all
of his financial information 2 send over
a contract & all kinds of stuff that didn't make sense. I immediately gave him the heads up something was fishy & he called their bluff. Granted, we had a rough time,
I never regret the decision, 'cause could've been made way worse from that. 🙏🏼💯
Had a work colleague asking for me to share my beats so he can "have new ringtones" for his phone....VERY suspicious. I said I'd only share the ones that weren't valuable
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Ugh. As a fellow producer, this story pisses me off SO MUCH. Don't blame yourself, dude. Sure, you missed the signs, but almost anyone put in that position would have. Blame the shitty person/people who chose to scam you. Everyone always wants the shortcut in life, and it's really frustrating to see how many people they're willing to step on to get there. People suck.
Ah, not all people suck. I just had the bad luck of running into one of the sucky ones
Dude, you have no idea how many producers you just helped by putting this story out there. Now if we ever find ourselves in a similar situation, this story will pop up in the back of our mind and we will be skeptical thanks to you. Appreciate you brother. Peace.
what did you learn? That if Eminem emails you tomorrow, you should possibly check it is actually him? 🤣🤣🤣 "dr dre emailed me yesterday, im going to spend a year making his next album and spend my 15k on food and drinks lol
@@zwicker5585 i did lol a kid emailed him and pretended to be Kendrick Lamar 😂... in UK we laugh at mistakes, its humour, don't take offence, laugh and move on.
@@zwicker5585 Dude. he got emailed by a kid pretending to be kendrick lamar, and without confirming spent all his money he saved up in hope he produced kendrick laamars new album. Listen, if 50 cent hits u up tomorrow via email, get a confirmation its him please bro. Stop being silly lol its not a scam, its a kid after some beats to write too, they cant be used anyway, the production is by said person who will expose a stolen beat. come on kid.....
@@zwicker5585 I did. and whats important is to check out if it is 50 Cent or Kendrick Lamar really emailing you. Before spending your savings
@@zwicker5585he had dropped good kid mad city, became the biggest artist on the planet & his manager didn't reach out, it was the same kid having a laugh lol... but as you're fixed on the fake manager now, its even worse. Not 1 phone call with him? not 1 video call? not nothing but an email.... Jesus Christ, come on.
Man, it's hard not to feel bad for you for the experience but as someone who is very new to the production game and music industry, this was a very inspiring but more importantly educational video. A pretty good heads-up for people to avoid scams. Thankyou for this video and for letting out an embarrasing experience! It'l serve as a good lesson for your viewers.
That's all I can hope for. I ended up in a good place so don't feel too bad
Navie D... I am still blown away by your work on "My Friend Pedro." You are gifted. Thank you for all the music you gave the world!
This video will DEFINETLY save many people's lives, thank you so much
Hahah I dunno about saving lives, but saving time/money is my hope
@@NavieD well I would kill myself if that happened to me and it also happens that Im slow and always fall for scams so pretend you saved my life 👽
Thanks for shaking... This is a lifetime lesson
Man hip hop production is a jungle! Everyone is trying to cut corners and scam and scheme to get ahead. Idk why but that fact is oddly motivating.
Hahah yeah it seems like a pretty rough industry
HEY NAV, you are one of my favorite people on UA-cam I tune in every Tuesday to catch your videos the reason I feel more of a connection with your platform is because of your genuine nature it connects and resonates with people like me. That story of you being scammed out of your whole life savings is the reason I love your channel and content you aren’t afraid to tell it how it is and I love that about you. Thank you for your story every up and coming beat maker or producer needed to hear that. Keep being genuine and honest and your story will connect with more people like myself. Peace and love
Very kind, thank you Mal!
Sadly, we’re sometimes the guinea pig that’s put through an unfavorable experience in order for others to learn. But to put things into perspective, just know that your story alone could be saving hundreds of thousands of producers and music artists around the world. I needed this video, thank you Navie
That really sucks, but your story will hopefully help others be more cautious. Thanks for allowing yourself to be vulnerable enough to share your experience.💯👑
This randomly popped up on my algorithm. I appreciate the courage it took to share your story and I am certain that many people will be kept safe through it. Your story is an inspiration. Keep up the great work, sir!
Thank you for coming back family !!! You have been a tremendous help to all of us !!! Thank you.
Thank you for checkin out my videos my friend
I think many or most people would have done the same thing in your situation. Unfortunately, good people get taken advantage of sometimes, myself included. I appreciate your warning to us all. Using your situation to create good in this world and support others. I’m sure karma will come back around to them. Much respect.
Thanks for sharing. It happens way too often, unfortunately. I had just posted online about how the new hustle continues to be to lure upcoming artists into thinking they will catch that big break in the game and become a superstar. It's all over the place today on socials. Building relationships continues to be the key to getting your name out there...just be careful 💯
Man, I can definitely relate to this. I got a placement on a Cole Bennett video when I was 19 back in 2017, and I had a ton of fake "managers" hit me up trying to scam me out of beats and money. Thankfully my beats were ass and I was already broke, so I just kept my head down and kept grinding. It sucked at first, laying low for so long, but I would have been played like a damn fiddle at that age, and now I'm 25, more aware of my choices, and my production is 100x better I'm thinking I'm ready to jump back in the game. More producers need to share stories like this because it drove us away from the game for so long.
Thanks for sharing. Your channel is one of the most educational ❤
Navie is one of the most sympathic and calm youtubers i know❤
What a Story...i couldnt believe what that feels like
It sucked butt
@@NavieD but you made it and motivate and teach thousands of producers...guess that skill to share your passion with others is such a treasure
I have so much respect for you for choosing your passion over a job, but just like myself, you have felt the dark side! Its an awful feeling when realizing you are the victim and so, no one should judge a scammed person, because the scammer spends so much time planning and feeds on your weaknesses.
Keep up the great work, you are awesome!
Thank you for sharing, man. These kinds of stories might be more important to hear than the success stories. It’s awesome that you’ve bounced back and made a career that is truly yours and yours alone. Inspiring.
Thank you so much for sharing this story with us.Its shows you have humility want to make other producer's aware of the scams in the industry.Much respect and appreciation 🙏💯
I hope it helps Alvin!
While I feel bad that this happened to you, I'm also kind of glad it did, or at least that your journey brought you here. I've learned so much about production from you, I like that you're such a genuine dude and it's easy to learn from you because you make things make sense without talking down to beginners; I also like that you break down what you're doing in the DAW and how it affects the sound you're applying things to.
I'm sincerely glad that you're in a place where you're doing well and feeling more fulfilled, and grateful that you share your knowledge with the rest of us.
I’m going to take this as confirmation. I’ve been on this journey for 3 years and I’m finally coming out of my shell and putting my beats out there. A few have gotten a little attention but mainly from scammers. I had this one dude say he was working on an album with Benny The Butcher and Dave East. He wanted me to make the melodies and he’d make the drums. But I had to send him $150 dollars and the loops to get though. I asked him when was the deadline because I at least know they have deadlines. He said just send all that when I can. I never sent anything and that was a month ago. I haven’t heard from him since then. 😂
I'm glad you avoided the scam Dee!
A similar thing happened to me. This person messaged me on Instagram and told me he worked with Dave East and that he had an opportunity for me. He told me that if I pay him something like 400 dollars he could connect me with Dave East and Nas lmao.
His name was Dee C, thought I should mention that so everyone knows to be cautious.
@@NavieD thank you for sharing your story as well
@@VasicUros man how you knew ???😂😂😂
I could never thank you enough for this honest in-depth tutorial on life’s realities. I hope all who hear this realize the complexities related to this modern world of commutative on line interaction that use to only take place with a face to face meeting. So many can easily hide and portray who they are not in this shark eat shark business. Thank you for teaching each of us this incredibly invaluable lesson. I will obey your request to not feel bad for you but let me tell you, what you ask is very, very difficult to not feel bad for you. Thanks again NavieD.
I'm not a producer, but I am studying graphic design (so within the creative realm). One thing a couple of my teachers have brought up is the importance of contracts, and knowing how to charge for our work. There are actually a few books that can help and even provide templates. One is: The 11 contracts that every artist, songwriter and producer should know. Another thing my teachers suggested was taking a business class, which I did. I know as creatives all we want to do is create cool stuff and not worry about all the paperwork lol but it's good to know. Anyway, I hope this helps somebody.
bro you've probably saved my future career with this video. Thank you for talking about this cuz tbh I wasn't even thinking that this could happen.
Fr, just always try to meet any contact in person cause anyone can scam now a days
It's even worse when real producers scam you and just walk away not caring that you'll tell everyone
Your FL Beats UA-cams are the best. Thanks for your honesty. Glad you are on UA-cam.
props man, you wasnt no fool. Dirty world coming at a young man like that.
I really dig your videos, I didnt know you worked with Joey. He is my #47. When I found that out, I was certain I was in the right place. So tragic to hear what happened...
You are an excellent teacher, producer, human and artist bruh!
I've been in a similar situation man. These scammers be doing the most and at first you think to yourself. Why would anyone scam a producer? They can't even use the snippets you send etc. But they have a whole plan to make you lower your guard. Glad you came back stronger and thank you for sharing this story, I'm glad I'm not alone. I appreciate you.
Harsh but important experince and by sharing it you help others to not fall for it. Especially nowadays when everyone just want to look great, you got my respect.
Bro..your a dope producer.. keep making that Magic!!!
Such a heartfelt, but beautiful story of yours! Shows how life is full of highs and lows, but more than anything how you overcame it and live to tell the tale! Much love bro x
Thank you so much for sharing this story Navie, I know it must have taken a lot to even make this video. You’re not a fool for this situation, anyone in their right mind would’ve thought that was Shipes emailing you. I remember the day that Underground Airplay came out also, because I was a huge fan of PE, K.R.I.T., and DZA at the time. Had no idea that you produced it, that was a track I had on repeat for years! Respect to you and thank you for sharing your story, because this can happen to literally everyone.
Also, have no idea how you reached out to Joey at the time, I’ve reached out to so many artists personally to send beats over the years and I have only gotten a few placements. If you could make a video as to how to grow your fanbase off of beats, I think this would help a lot of us here, especially the ones who don’t necessarily want to sell their beats, but want to be known for their instrumental projects. Any feedback on this I would appreciate, because this is something I’ve been trying to figure out for a very long time. Much love and I hope you have a good week!
(Also still yearning for a viewer feedback video, I got a whole army of beats that need some feedback)
Hey Navie, thanks for talking about this, I felt pretty ashamed I almost fell for sending a beat to a guy claiming to be C-Lance the other day (but I clarified with the real C-Lance before I sent it). Much Love dude, sorry this happened to your dream.
Kudos to the real C-Lance for clarifying
@@NavieD For real!
Stay strong! The road will be mastered by the one who walks. Take care and be suspicious of new offers. Thank you for this incredible story!
Oh man. That's so painful to watch. But thanks for sharing this important story.
Hope you and that singer found your peace. She did the right thing. But I get how you can react with denial.
Music biz is a fucked up mess attracting so many toxic people. Had my fair part of experience over more than 10 years.
Know your worth. If something seems too good to be true double and triple check it. And never let any of that destroy your fun of creating and making music.
Respect. Recognise our mistakes in front of millions of people Is Not Easy!!
Im also my worst enemy and I lie to myself all the time.
All the Best!!
Man, this sucks! I wasn’t as blatantly scammed like this but I was somewhat ripped off by someone I looked up to and trusted in the industry a while back. I’ve heard it’s very commonplace, a lot of people have similar experiences.
Thanks for sharing 👊🏻
thanks for sharing this. hope you know you did nothing wrong. you were just following your dream. and taken advantage of. you seem like a level headed, caring guy. i hope none of this has shaken that. take care friend.
I remember getting scammed by Jermaine Dupri some years back. He had an audition in Dallas for one of his new artists, Dondria and he charged the musicians to audition. I remember one of the judges was one of my friends ( not anymore) and some years later, he finally confessed that the audition was a scam. He had already gotten the gig but was paid to be a judge, knowing the whole time he already had the position. The music game is an evil place man and they will take advantage of your ambition and determination. Beware. P.S. I also heard Aldam Blackstone used to have paid auditions as well... SCAMmer
Really sorry you had to go through that, its absolutely horrible and morally depraved that people prey upon other people's dreams. Music is already so personal to our souls, we let it roam our body and minds in hopes of creating something beautiful with it for other people to rejoice in as well. To have somebody come along and tear emotions, sacrifice and time from you just so they can make a buck is just mad. We appreciate you my guy!
Thank you bro. Cause I’ve been offered many “placements” for lack of better words as an artist & also lots of fake offers for deals & rn I’m getting an offer that seems realer then ever cuz they aren’t asking for money (yet) & they haven’t been pushy at all & they even had like an official Empire Distribution Email when they emailed me but this makes me want to double triple check every angle of this. Cause it was just some random guy on Instagram like you said, that messaged me & connected me with all this. But he hasn’t asked for money, just said “mention my name if needed” so we’ll see what happens. But thanks for being transparent to the world about your hard time. This seems like a nightmare but for some reason I feel like the silver lining is above all the coolest part of the story & that’s you getting to produce that song for Joey & Krit & DZA, cuz they’re legends to me. 🎉 keep doing what you love - regardless if it’s music. 🕊️☀️
Man I have just started producing beats and I am getting good at it and your videos help me so much. Can't thank enuf!
most of those big artists only pick beats from people theyve met in the studio or in real life. but ive had a similar "opportunity" and after it failed i quit making music for others or seeing it as a way of surviving in life or building up a music career.
That’s Incredibly Dope that you worked with Joey, I research all the time trying to get information on Hip Hop, So I get shocked know and then tying things together such as seeing “Prod. Navie D” on Joey song & seeing your youtube channel. Bless you & ye’ future brethren.
First I want to thank you for being honest and talking about what I’m sure was an incredibly painful experience for you. I went through a similar situation I think my situation ended up much worse than yours because I ended up homeless. And this is why I don’t respond to your emails. I am afraid of being scammed. I do want to learn to do this I know I can do this professionally and make a good living but I can’t take chances and be scammed. I hope there’s a way for me and you can communicate on a real level someday because I do think I can learn from you and I also think I have some things to offer
But at the moment I’m financially broke still trying to recover from being taken advantage of so I have not been able to respond to your emails or subscribe to your lessons
Thanksf for the warnings Navie and It is so sad that even the guys you were working were scammers. They lost a good producer...
Scammers are always pulling on peoples heartstrings. It sucks man, but you came out on top. Love, your videos ! Amazing producer, inspiring content creator, and from what I can see a overall genuine human . I’m so glad you didn’t quit 🎉
Thank you for sharing this story man, truly inspiring for how vulnerable you are to help us out. We truly appreciate it Navie. Love your vids! 💜💜💜💜💜
I got scammed a lot when I first started by producers who were really big at a few years ago. It's just part of the game unfortunately
To think of all that refinement that went into your craft by sculpting those beats for the facade album and how that ripples through to today in how you drop gems for the producer community. Everything happens for a reason albeit not always how we want it to happen. Thank for everything Navie!!
Dude you’re so talented at like telling stories. Dude this is like the most down to earth vibe. I love your channel.
Damn. Respect your honesty! Bless you King!!
Thank you Swag!
If it's any consolation, i genuinely think you're one of the best talents on youtube in the production industry and it's only a matter of time before someone with say recognizes that .. love your content!
You are one of the most brilliant and much more equipped human beings in the music business! We love you so much and remember that where you are right now is always better than where you would have been with your former presumed dream!! God bless you, brother!!!
Wow. Thank you for sharing. I know it can be tough to share something like that but you are helping so many producers by putting this out.
So real! Thank you for stepping up to tell the story. It helps all of us novices more than you'll ever know. Impressive. Community is how we beat the odds and smack back the scammers.
Thanks for sharing it, Internet community has its pro as well as cons, people are so quick to take advantages, so many opportunists.
Man you such a real one!
KEEP THIS CONTENT FLOWING PLEASE
you're a gift to the creative community no joke
Thank you for sharing your story! This knowledge will help keep young producers aware of these types of scams. It is still very alive..
Thank you for sharing many of us in the business have similar stories of loss and lessons learnt.I can say the comeback is often bittersweet but lessons learnt for me is the game changer.
I got scammed by some of the guys in wutang, they never sent the verse they were supposed to send, and kept the money
And you are definitely successful today with all the experiences (good and bad). The power of social media is uncontrollable these days, online exposure is essential for artists, and it usually comes with unexpected risks. Thanks so much for sharing! I am glad that the ordeal is over for you. It's just money lost and not your great values and talent.
That's fucking brutal, dude. Holy smokes.
Much love your way and glad you were able to rebound and are now helping thousands across the world. :)
Well really glad you stuck with it my dude. YT just wouldn't be the same without you!
Thank you thank you! There will come a day when I move on from this too. But for now, I am enjoying myself :)
For people that get in this kind of situations, always meet people in person of they really want to work with your or at least video call!
Absolute respect for putting this out there, that takes courage dude, you live and you learn!
This is why you're one of the realest and dopest doing this. Big ups to you sir.
such a stand up dude. always real and honest and truthfully some of the best beats ive heard made on this platform. i salute you brother
I'm reminded of something I read while reading the Yu Gi Oh manga of all things; "Trust your friends, but always cut the deck."
Don't shy away from people or opportunities but take precautions. It's not your fault if someone takes advantage of you, it really isn't, but you've gotta take measures to protect yourself.
This video was very eye-opening and informative. In the age where everyone is trying to only show the glamorous side of life, it's refreshing to hear an honest story about vulnerability. Thank you for sharing!
Awesome of you to share this man. There’s no telling how many people won’t get scammed because they remember hearing your story
You are stronger because of this. You are dope at what you do and will continue to be successful
Goddamn, that's brutal man. But good for you for bouncing back and sharing it as a warning to others. There are some bad people out there.
Great video, so important for young producers to be aware of these types of scams. As somebody who's been in the industry for many years I can tell you it's all about real in person relationships. Meet people face to face or have reputable management/representation. Start with smaller/indy artists and just do great work, you will eventually work your way up to the bigger artists. People are always looking for a fast track or "big opportunity", truth is for most it takes years to get to that level regardless of how good your music is.
Navi U Da Man Bro. Live and learn and above all never stop doing your thang. Truly Appreciated...
Thank you Flip!
That's crazy how when we get so excited about the good things happening, it can makes us blind to the truth.
I can relate
It always amazes me the lengths scammers will go too. Unbelievable. Thank you for telling the story.
Thanks for Sharing bro. What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. Happy you’ve put it behind. Doesn’t make you a less great producer and teacher. Glad rose above it and your positive attitude. Keep up the good work. 💪
Absolutely respect the transparency!
Well.. you had in your hands all the time the most important thing nman... The knowledge and skill for doing new beats.The Earth is happy for you to not giving up, ty man!!!
You will make it back! Good deeds don’t go unnoticed! Your success stops when you quit. Shame you quit! Hope you reconsider and keep producing
YOU ARE 💯💯💯BRO FOR BEING TRANSPARENT (SCAMS LIKE THIS HAPPEN TO PRODUCERS EVERY DAY) 👀👀👀
Damn man, I've watched your tutorials for a year or so. I just watched this, and SMH. Scratch that "I" suck. People suck. You seem to have good morals and people that don't will do ANYTHING for money. I dont even know you like that but, I'm sorry this happened to you. Thanks for sharing this.
Seriously appreciate this video, I don't doubt you'll save a few people from getting scammed themselves
Glad you were so candid. Hopefully others learn from your mistake. Can still make beats just for passion though. Doesn’t have to be only about making money.
Hey man I appreciate your story. thank you for sharing and helping us to be aware of how, in our quest to become great producers, we can fall victim to scams. I will do my best to be vigilant. Thank you Navie
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Thank you, the amount of effort those scammers went through just to potentially ruin someone’s life is just insane, we are all glad you eventually found your path!
I fell prey to a different but similar scam in a different creative industry and I feel the pain. Just know it doesnt make you a failure even if it forces you to step away from your art momentarily.
brufffff, I loved Your videos, knowledge and music content overall. Sorry for what happened to You. Lacking words to express myself rn..GL on your way
thank you for sharing this story. some scammer messaged me using the name of a new york radio dj (pretty sure it was hot97) and he showered with compliments however i knew he wanted something in return. i wanted to be nice so i said thank you then he asked me if I ever got radio play? he asked me to send him a song so he can tell me about prices however i stopped because i have no money and because why would a big radio station want to work with me when they make millions playing major label artists. turned out it was a fake page but it seemed believable because someone i know followed that fake page.
Thanks for sharing your hurtful experience🙏🏽 wishing you greater success ahead.
Big respects for sharing this G. This will help so many make better decisions.
great video, i had a my own experience of scamming in a totally different situation. I was scammed of a 7k pair of shoes and and ended up falling into a hole just like you. We just have to keep pushing and fortunately we can use it as a lesson for the future.
This story help us all. Watch your step folks. Thank you for being so open and vulnerable! ✌🏽