Is the Universal Audio OX BOX still worth it in 2023?
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
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I purchased this OX Box with my own money. Views are my own.
Time Stamps
0:00 - Intro / Jam
0:47 - What is an Ox Box?
1:17 - How to set up an Ox Box
2:36 - 4x12 Cab Sounds
3:23 - Controls
3:55 - More Tones
5:16 - Review
5:35 - Things I'd Change..
6:43 - Value for money
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Great video! Congratulations
Glad you liked it!
Nice video sir ! Just got my ox box last week. I love it so far. Came from owning a captor. No hate for the captor but I enjoy this more.
Me too 😎👍
Interesting Video. I find myself investigating if the OxBox could be for me and your Video helps to clarify my thoughts. Great Arguments at the end of the Video (...the "Things I´d Change"-Part...). I wish the good people from Universal Audio carefully listen to the points you mentioned. They can take a lot of Idea´s for developing this product. Thanks for this Information. Thumbs up. Abo left. Best greetings from Germany. Michael.
Thank you Michael, just been to Germany- had an incredible time. Beautiful country.
Great video Scott, super helpful. Just subscribed.
Awesome, thank you Kevin.
Does the app work on iPhones
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Great video
Appreciate it Liam
@@ScottPoleyMusic your wellcome love your content the audio OX BOX sounds geart
I bought the OX during lockdowns and it's the best studio purchase I've made hands down. I was using plug-ins and barely touching my amps and this really brought back the joy of tube amps for me. I agree with the things you'd change, an FX loop would be great. It's been a while since it's had an update and I hope with all their new guitar-based gear like the UA pedals etc that they invest more into the OX and release some more updates!
That’s exactly the same reason I bought mine!! Can’t wait to try those new UA Pedals too.
Do you think there’s a justifiable difference between plugins and your amps using the ox? I’m in similar boat
@@riverstone5994 a good question! My amps + OX does give me a better tone and feel than plugins for sure. No doubt. The software in the OX also gives a lot more flexibility with your amps than you might think. The different cabs, mics & EQ/Compressor can really change up your amp tone depending on what you are going for. That said, if I didn't have my amps I would be very happy with plugins/modelling as it's quick and sounds great. I'm happy with being 'hybrid' and using both as find value in both cases. A big investment in amp + OX though so not sure if it's that justifiable in that regard!
Love my ox
So do I. I’ve been using it every day in the studio. It’s ace!
I’ve recently gotten into modelers. Got two great ones and I love them. Was considering selling my OX as both modelers record beautifully and I love the sounds.
Buuuht…
…nothing sounds as good, reproducing the clean tones that I absolutely love on my Port City Pearl. I’ve gotten good at creating great clean tones on the modelers, but there’s a crisp edge that’s not quite there. And the OX keeps it there. Sound of the amp is spot on and the cabs/speaks/mics are awesome.
(That is to say that I did not sell the OX) 🥂
I agree completely, I’m in the same boat. The OX isn’t exactly like micing a real amp but for situations where that’s not possible (like my small home studio), the OX is a winner.
Hi, I liked your demo very much. Maybe you have an idea if Universal Audio will do another update
I don’t I’m afraid, they have a pedal version now but nothing other than that.
I have 100 W head and I play at home only with the Ox Box make my amp sound better if I could turn up the amps volume to get the tubes sizzling, then attenuate it to to where I can play it in my apartment at low-volume while sounding killer
Amazing!!! You get it 🤘
I’ve got a captor X, Waza TAE and the ox stomp pedal and the Ox just has mojo the others don’t. It needs a load box to work though and although the TAE is king of flexibility on stage, now that you can use a 3 button switch to toggle sounds on the ox box, it’s a legit option for live music.
I’ve got an ox box on the way to try out but I think what I’m most going to enjoy is the more fully fleshed out settings and features of the reverb, delay, comp, etc.
The iPhone app control for the ox stomp is pretty useless so the effects kind of feel half assed and is why I still run my UA Delverb pedal.
You nailed it, mojo! It’s not perfect but it’s a damn good solution. Good luck with your Ox.
Hey, nice presentation of the OX. Just fyi - the ox can be used with solid state amplifiers as well. The manual points that out at page 8 and I‘m using it from time to time without any problems 👍
Whaaaa!! I did not know that Dennis, I was told otherwise. Thanks for this information.
Yes sir.. I’ve plugged my helix into it before, using amp heads from there. It worked fine lol
@@law132003 could you expand on this? I’ve been trying my modeller into an orange pedal baby power amp and then into OX to use the built in IRs and it sounded horrible. Not sure if it’s the modeller digital amps or the power amp which makes it sound bad.
I've wanted an OX Box for a long time but I've been waiting for the next version (if there even is one in the works). I bet it's coming but could be more years away from even being announced.
Who knows…. I still think the current model is a worthy investment.
They just trademarked the “ox stomp” I was reading. So hopefully a new one isnt far off.
Hi Scott, really useful video, thanks! I'm thinking about getting one but keep reading people say that the attenuator isn't that great/you loose a lot of the top end. Is that your experience/do you think you could just use an eq pedal to put the top end back?
I’ve not really experienced that much of an issue with tone loss John. It sounds better without the attenuation but I don’t think there’s an attenuator that I’ve tried that’s any better. You could EQ if necessary 👍
thanks Scott!
I ended up getting a Torpedo Studio, which has a similar role to the Ox. The Ox was just a bit over-priced, and the Torpedo just had way more flexibility and options
Interesting - Buddy Miller and John Mayer have the Ox, that was my main recommendation for purchase. The two notes gear is amazing too.
For those of us who like to play and not knob fiddle the Ox is perfect
This is a great video and I appreciate your work sampling the different cabinets. I have also recently bought an Ox. While I defer to your talent and experience - don't you think the tone is rather "rubbery?" Even in your demonstration, I can shake the feeling that I'm listening to modeling. For convenience and volume control and everything discussed it's a winner....except that fake sound. Someone level reset me please.
Hi Scott, in an ideal world, of course I’d love a room where I can blast a variety of cabs and amps, with mics, preamps, EQ’s to match and that’s what I’m aiming towards as it provides the best tone - but right now, that’s not practical for me and the Ox allows me to do my job.
Does it work for high gain / metal tones too?
Thank you for the great Video!
YES! Absolutely, it’s not really the type of music I play, but plug a 100 watt Diezel / Mesa into the Ox Box and capture all those tones without the ear crushing volume.
I just bought one. So far the only thing I don’t like is that (apparently) you can download he app on an iPad but not on an iPhone. I’m not sure why that would be. That said, I’mjust beginning to explore all this device has to offer. I do think I’m going to be glad I bought it.
I totally agree! It should definitely have an iPhone app.
I‘m absolutely with you. The Ox - despite having the limitations you mentioned - is the best buy and tonal investment in years for me. I use it literally every day and the tone is unbeatable. The attenuater is also a point of possible future improvements as the increments are either too quiet or a little too loud for home use, depending on the amps wattage. Plus, there is no way to compensate for the high frequency loss when attenuating a lot. If there is going to be a Ox Version 2, I‘m the first happy customer for sure.
That’s a really interesting observation Christopher. Thanks for your comment 👍 love it when people point out useful facts that I’ve missed / not experienced yet.
@@ScottPoleyMusic It's an overpriced product, but still a good one. Captor X is quite good and you can buy another pedal or even another amp for the extra money saved..
I heard rumors that a new OX Amp Top Box could be being designed and worked on. It will be?
I don't know if it makes sense?
I hope so…. It makes sense to update it but it’s great as it is.
Great Video - Do you miss mic'd amps?
Yes and no. If I had an amp room, 100% I’d love to play through a real cab. BUT I don’t and music is my job, I have to deliver different tones on the fly. The ox is perfect for that.
Could the OX BOX be used in a live situation too. Back in my gigging days one of the problems I had was getting a guitar sound I liked but keeping my my backline amp at a low enough volume so the sound guy could keep my guitar in the mix and still keep a bit of control over it.
Absolutely!!! I don’t use it for live yet hence it not being in my review. It would be ideal for using a high wattage amp live, calming down the volume.
You can let the natural sound of the cab? Or necessarily you need to choose one cab of the digital ones ? Subscribed
Hi Luis, the amp sound travels through the ox box and into the cab unaffected (or can be attenuated with the ox box). When recording through the ox box di output, you have to use the Ox Cab / Room / Mic models.
I have an older Ox and torpedo captor x I’m waiting for UA to release the next OX version
Well overdue, been expecting it since Covid hit
I want to but a new one but as soon as I do then a new one will drop
They’ve just dropped the pedal sized version. Will be interesting to see what happens next with the main model.
Great video. I am using an OX for a couple of years now. It is a love & hate thing. Every now and then I decide to sell it but then I keep it nevertheless. It is not that great an attenuator. The fixed speaker volume settings are most of the time either too loud or not loud enough. I don not get it why they did not provide an simple aux input. We have an headphone out but can't route a backing track, let alone a simple metronome to it??!! What about the USB ins and outs? Useless! The WIFI is dismal. The connection really is unstable rather often. No updates for years! It's an half baked product which UA has let down quite a while ago. Bummer!
Interesting. I love it and find it super useful for my needs but agree it needs an update. Hardwire USB for software control would be an obvious start for me too.
I AGREE WITH 100% WITH WHAT HE SAID. THOUGH NOW BEING IN 2024 THE OX NEEDS A TOUCH UP.
IT SHOULD MOVE STEP BY STEP WITH THE CURRENT TIMES
ALSO HEARD ONE OWNER OF THE OX LOST THE POWER CABLE.
U CANT FIND IT ANYWHERE ITS UNIQUE ONLY TO UA. WHICH LEAVES YOU WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY TO DO ANYTHIGN UNTIL YOU RECEIVE THE NEW ONE BY MAIL
IN 2024 THERE SHOULD BE AN OPTION TO BUY ONE ON THE FLY
A new OX with updated features would be super helpful.
I'm gear ignorant really but this device seems odd to me. it can be used as an attenuator to make the existing speaker on your combo amp sound the same quiet as loud. I get that.
But it also has cabinet sims? So I can simulate running my princeton reverb pre-amp into a 4x12 rather than it's stock speaker at all? If it can do that, the why does it need a amp at all, seems like it could just be an amp modeler in and of itself.
What I am really looking for is a solution to play my guitars through headphones without disturbing the others in my house who all work different shifts and need to sleep lol.
True! It’s not an easy sell.
The OX is a really useful problem solver, used by a lot of high profile touring artists and studio musicians alike. I think it really offers a much smaller and arguably better sounding alternative to using an ISO cab for recording / live performance.
I would change the way presets are stored, meaning that they are saved on the machine only. I wish i could bring only my Ipad with my presets in there. Or i played in studios with multiple amps plugged in different Ox Boxs and you have to build the same preset in multiple machines, no way to ship a preset from one machine to the other..
That’s another really interesting point that I’d not experienced yet!!! I’d very much like to do that too, how bizarre that it’s not an option to backup / transfer presets.
@@ScottPoleyMusic weel forget it, if you get hired for a session in a studio where there is already an Ox box, you need to bring your own unit if you want to use your presets.
@@dagoat1can’t you add the Ox in the studio to your account and use your presets.
I don't think so. We have two units in our studio and you need to copy manually each user preset to the other machine. A bit of a pain.@@adamphillips6747
Can you use the other UAD pedals with this box and what you’ll be the benefit if so?
The UAD effects pedals??
why would the OX Box need an FX loop? You have to run an amp head into the OX Box. I just use the FX loop on my amp. I don't see where having another FX loop would help anything.
I would like to be able to patch time based effects (reverb / delay) clean after the amp signal before the cab. It would also allow the amp signal to send to another cab for wet dry setup if necessary. Again, not something I’m desperate for, but it would be helpful.
I notice u have it set to 100watts but your lil walter is 50watts? Great playing and tones btw!
Yes, I had a 100 watt Marshall plugged into it the day before 🤘
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the tone is quite different if u switch it back for the 50 w amp fyi
at least i noticed a substantial change and i preferred the 50 w setting for my 40 w amp
Aaaaaaand welcome to another episode of: “Scott made me buy this.”
If my purpose on earth is not to cause my friends and subscribers equipment cravings and rapid, sudden spending, what is my purpose? 😝
now after they put out the ox stomp you should make a new video
If UA sent me an OX stomp to try out I’m 100% behind that idea.
Usually i am one of those suckers who buys this kind of stuff one week before a new model is presented… 🙄
Anybody an idea on when it’s going to be updated ? It has been around for ages…
There’s been a smaller pedal size OxBox just released but nothing to replace this one yet.
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0 dislikes after 8 month?! May I trust this video!!
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So the Ox won’t work with combo amps?
It will work fine with combos, you just need to connect the ox between the power amp and the speaker. If your amp doesn’t have this connection, it’s an easy modification.
The ox is as expensive as an ox.
😂😂
I plan on getting the captor x. The built in effects are not as good but the features makes it well worth its price. You can buy 2 captors for the price of 1 ox
Yes, but there’s a reason that Ferrari’s cost more than Ford’s even though they both have 4 wheels and drive along the road. That’s my take on it Anthony, I have nothing against the Captor though, it’s a great piece of kit, I just prefer the Ox for my studio use.
@ScottPoleyMusic if I was recording semi professional or actually playing on stage, I like you would go with the ox. Being i play around for my own personal joy, I can't see spending over twice as much for a 10% gain.
I love the extra 10% but for goofing off, captor all day long :)
Utterly shocking that UA have not released what everyone has been screaming about for a long time...an updated version of the Ox. In it's current state I cannot recommend it. Stupidly limited connectivity, stupidly limited cabinet choices on the unit itself (and elsewhere), amongst others. Waaaaay too expensive for what it currently is.
Yet, it’s used everyday on recordings in at least 80% of Nashville studios but you know.
@@adamphillips6747 I obviously know better than you - it's way, waaaaay below "80%" ;)
@@ChrisM541 ok, I am only there every day.
@@adamphillips6747 Me too ;)
I’m late to this 615 off 🤣🤣 I don’t find it nearly as bad as you say it is Chris, lack of iPhone app is annoying. I don’t find an issue with the cab choices, they all sound good to me and besides, I hate scrolling through 200 1x12 cabs to find the best one - that’s just me.
Have you tried the Boss Waza Tube expander? Might be more your bag.