The first guy shooting a .22 and pretending to have recoil is so funny. Even pistols chambered for .22wmr should not have you moving your hand like that. Like at all.
Dude. I shit you not my heart stopped beating at Harley’s section. We were in the same class and at our graduation they had a tribute to him. I’m glad people are still talking about him, he was kind to those who were kind to him. The comment about his channel getting deleted is because he would lose access to it due to it being a school email.
His story resonates with me the most because I also have autism. However, I got to make it past when he passed. Rest in Peace to the young man and I pray all affected by his passing have found peace with his tragic passing
I could never imagine that pain 💔. I had one child that i found passed away from S.I.Ds at 5 months. I never had another child because I could never go through that pain again. God bless all the parents who lost children 🙏.
@Leto85 I agree. I blamed myself for so many yrs when i lost my son to SIDS people told me it happens and i wouldn't have been able to make a difference. But as his father i felt i should have protected him some how. I was so hurt i got on my Harley and just hit the road for some time. I chose to never have another child. I couldn't bare the pain of that again.
28:20 My father was supposed to be in that building that day (he had been staying/visiting there for cancer treatments). He went home instead... thinking I was going to be in town that day... he wanted to meet me at his house. Something came up and I wasn't in Joplin that day. The tornado went down the opposite side of my Dad's street... wiping every house off the map. It spared his side of the street. He didn't even have a basement to go into. He watched it from his living room window. He decided to let fate deal his hand at that point. He had luck on his side that day. He also beat cancer shortly after. Tough SOB.
Harley's case absolutely wrecks me. He was an autistic child not given adequate support and obviously was lashing out to try and deal with the confusing, alienating, awful school life and his parents treated him like he was a normal kid acting out. Devastating.
no I disagree about him being treated like a "normal kid", locking your child out of the house is not treating them like a normal child. That's outright abuse no matter what... idk about his dad but that woman, his mother, reminds a lot of my manipulative, neglectful, emotionally abusive etc. mother. I don't think she directly had anything to do with his death but the way they treated him contributed to him running away constantly and lashing out.
imagine his last fews days before he passed on innthere from asphyxiation/malnurishment or whatevs i imagine he suffered in there for at lest 2-4 days 😅
I cannot imagine the absolute horror of watching your son be sucked out of a car. I’m horrified and upset just listening to it. I’m glad his family is doing better. Rip.
I'm watching that part right now and struggling to fight the tears. Martyn was my age when he died. He seemed like so many of my friends. Honestly, he reminds me of my most recent boyfriend. I wish I could have known him. He seemed like he would have been a wonderful friend, and I can't imagine how deeply his family must miss him.
will's story is so heartbreaking. literally driving away from highsccool graduation, a loving family and internet fanbase, just about to get his life started.
I believe Harley Dilly’s first channel was made using a school email, and once he graduated, the account was deleted automatically. I believe this is the case because the exact same thing happened to me.
Maybe the Harley Dilly channel getting deleted in 2 years means he registered his first channel on a school email. School emails are usually deleted after the student graduates, like my first channel was deleted due to that.
That's so sad. I wonder if UA-cam should incorporate some sort of legacy page where deceased UA-camrs have their channels protected from deletion. Something similar to what LiveJournal did since way back in the day if you weren't signing in, the site deleted journals after a year of not being active.
Why would disabling an email address result in the deletion of a youtube channel? That makes zero sense. UA-cam does not regularly check if the email used to register with still exists...
Same bro.. I was pissed when that happened because I was doing CoD videos in high school and got up to 3k subs and then boom, gone, all of it. Decided to not even try again tbh.
The willdabeast situation is really sad. As a midwesterner, NOBODY takes tornado watches seriously until a twister is spotted and the sirens are actively going off. Underestimating dangerous conditions like this is a stupid midwestern cultural attitude that my friends and family are seemingly proud to uphold
I’ve only lived in the Midwest for ten years and the amount of people who get excited for storms that are dangerous is insane. Just last night we had a 30 degree change and it brought some severe weather. Locally we were ok, we got lucky and it passed us but the backlash that the poor meteorologists got this morning was too much. Why not be grateful that people and their things were spared?
The Chloe (Collossal Carnage) one hit me the hardest. My oldest daughter passed away 7 years ago at the age of 17, from suicide. And she was just like this girl, bubbly ALL the time. Head cheerleader, you just never saw her without a smile on her face. Then one day, she's gone. It is sad how hard it is to read our kids these days. I always considered myself a very attentive father, and I never saw it coming. Never. If only I would have asked more questions, or....something. I have no idea what else I could have done. But you parents out there, pay as much attention as you can to your kids. I'm sure there was a sign somewhere that I missed, don't miss it like I did. Please.
@@Mario87456 You are sick and twisted. Go get a life, you child and at least be respectful. He had his whole life ahead of him, yet it was cruelly taken by something he couldn’t have expected. You must be a terrible person to think that’s “funny”. Grow up.
The natural selector story is just frustrating. There's no telling if he'd have committed a violent crime later in life, but the failure of the Finnish medical system played a huge part. He was denied treatment he clearly needed, then put on medication that affected his behavior negatively. Any sane medical professional would have stopped that medication to try another
@@tiatoi not sometimes but most of the time. you have to fight to get help and when a person is in that condition they hardly have anyone to fight for them to get help. Bunch of pills don't solve these situations, they usually make it worse.
No one bat an eye when he was bullied, not his parents not the school, but when those kids turn evil from bullying now everyone was concerned… people make demons of other people
I held it together until the final story. God that’s absolutely devastating and I can’t imagine how it felt for Martin’s family to hope that maybe he lost his phone again because it was within Martin’s character only to be told that he indeed died. I started crying when you revealed his stepdad got a matching tattoo in his memory but changed it to be his son cosplaying as his favorite character that he himself got tattooed on himself
Regarding Harley Dilley, chances are he opened his first channel with a school email account, which get deleted once the student leaves. I'm not sure what YT does (did) with channels created with these kinds of emails, but he probably believed YT was going to delete it once he left school.
I thought it may have been opened on UA-cam kids, which doesn't allow a lot of stuff. I only got rid of mine bc it limited or blocked almost anything and everything eg type of content and comments.
Yea i was goin to comment just this, when i went thru middle school and made accounts with my district email, i wasnt able to access any of these accounts after graduating. lol RIP my ps3 account
I was just thinking the same thing. I had a school email that was hosted on Gmail's servers instead of a local exchange server somewhere on campus. It was probably before Google merged all of their account services into one thing, so I never had anything other than email--but I know I've since had a GSuite account with an employer that would log me into all the Google/Alphabet owned services including UA-cam. So, that must've been what was going on with this kid. I'm also not aware of whether or not he could've migrated or merged his videos or channel into another personal Gmail account, but it's' possible that he couldn't have done that, since their GSuite accounts aren't treated like personal accounts where you can do that, and it's basically up to the organization paying for the account to decide whether or not they want to keep his data or wipe it after they disable the account.
I'm from Finland and the first part of the video is really well done, just a little side note that at 14:14-14:19 the news footage isn't related to Jokela's case, but another school shooting which happened in 2008, not too long after Jokela shootings. It was at Kauhajoki and the person was inspired to do it bc of Eric. It's just a minor mix up, the rest of the footage is correct/related to the case. Nice work!
I didn't even realize that it was the Jokela shooting until he said about the manifest being in Finnish and English. But really cool knowing that Finnish cases are also discussed outside of Finnish UA-camrs. Kuitenkin kiitos tästä kommentistasi, koska avaat tämän tiedon 😊
@@karousii Kiitti, tiesin et on Jokelasta kyse, kun eräs brittiläinen true crime kanava teki videon Ericistä ja avas Jokelan tapausta kyseisellä videolla. Ite ollu tosi nuori ku koko juttu tapahtu ja itellä iha pimennossa ollu pitkään, et kuka tää tekijä on ollu jne. :")
@@JK-gm6kk They aren't wrong. And Lake Bodom has nothing to do with shootings, it was a stabbing attack on some campers. Over the last 20 years, how many shootings do you think were in Finland? Like 4. Over the last 10 years, how many do you think have been in the US? Over 4000... They weren't wrong when they said it was beyond rare.
A lot of the older people don’t speak English, so wouldn’t be very familiar with the English speaking side of UA-cam, others don’t even know the shooter was on UA-cam. It’s talked about nonetheless as a very severe failure of the ever crumbling bits of what little mental health care is still left
As a Finnish person about the same age as NaturalSelector89, those videos are burned into my mind. I remember that day very clearly. it felt really weird, the school day came to a stop, even though this happened on the other side of the country. It was not something anyone believed could actually happen and it shook everyone. A few months later, a rumor started going around about there being a potential school shooter in our school. Turned out the rumors were about one of my friends. He was just a shy kid and when the school talked to him about it, it broke him. The school had to address the situation over the intercom system and my friend needed a few weeks off to recover. It goes to show how easily an incident like this can drive fear and distrust into a whole nation.
The most recent example of an abandoned channel is MittenSquad. The creator was battling with alcoholism and got help through rehab. One day, he posted saying he would be back to the video grind soon. He never did because he got sent to the hospital with severe organ failure and died. RIP Paul of MittenSqaud. This is where the real game begins.
I didn't know he died. I saw that post and was waiting for him to return. He made a big part of my senior year of college a lot more bearable. Rest in peace.
It's scary to think that 50 years from now, there will be channels with millions of subs that have not uploaded in years, and tons of comments from dead people. It's scary to think about.
The antidepressants making Eric aggressive, the rambling, the plans and his mindset changing....as someone who experienced similar stuff on SSRIs and SNRIs, that sounds like mania brought on by antidepressants. It's how many people find out they have bipolar.
That was a big role in Eric Harris’s aggression and decision making with Columbine. Dylans mother as well as Erics diary both expressed that once he was put on Zoloft, which is now known to also have severe aggression as a common side effect and is no longer prescribed as often, it was like a complete change in his attitude and he went from being sweet and rather shy and timid to being very outspoken and aggressive, Erics diary expressing how his hatred of this change in him only further fueled the hate in his heart but his doctors kept him on it because at that time they simply believed it was generic,hormonal teenage boy angst and unrelated to his anti depressants
Yep. I found out that I was Bipolar in a similar manner. They lowered my dosage and my manic episodes made themselves known. Thankfully, they put me on topamax and it helped balance things out.
Willdabeast's story was indeed sad and terrifying. That's why I always take tornadoes very seriously, especially major ones. I can't imagine what his father felt from that F5 disaster.
Harley is my cousin. The channel was made with a school email that would be deleted when he was no longer in the school, hence the new channel. I believe he had hoped to make it a sustainable income source by the time he was 16 and leave school/emancipate himself. Y'all have no idea what the true crime community put his parents through. It was beyond speculation to full-blown harassment while they were actively looking for/mourning their child. My aunt, Heather, may not be perfect, but she was doing the best she could, often on her own bc my uncles job often had him away from home. There was a lot more going on than anyone on the outside knows about, and she did a pretty damn fine job given the circumstances and resources she was dealing with. Thats all I'll say about their family life, as they've had their privacy invaded enough. I myself have always been a true crime fan, but the harm these people caused in their so-called pursuit of the truth has turned me off from these online communities completely. Too many people are too quick to point the finger while forgetting that these are real people. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in court, but on the internet, it seems to be the opposite with no regard for the harm caused, and no reperations or apologies when their little theories are proven bunk. Rest in peace, Harely. You are loved. You are missed. Edit: I appreciate the outpouring of well wishes from many of you. I will not be replying to any more responses, but I do see them and appreciate them. I also want to say, while I myself no longer wish to participate in the true crime communities outside of listening to the stories and keeping them in mind, be it as a life lesson or just to keep a lost person in my thoughts, I know that with the right mindset and morals a lot of good CAN be found. I urge anyone who holds a special interest in these stories to keep spreading FACTUAL awareness when it's appropriate - without personal bias or judgment, without finger pointing or direct/indirect harassment. Keep your eyes wide open and your ears keen when a person is missing or a BOLO issued. Share tips and information through the proper channels. Moderate yourselves and stand up against poor behavior within your communities. When terrible things happen, more often than not, someone out there knows something, and speaking up in the PROPER way can sometimes be the difference between a solved case and a cold case. With those principles in mind, you CAN contribute to making a difference without contributing to harm and enabling those who seek a sick sense of pleasure from spreading hate instead of facts.
We can’t go back and undo the harm we did your aunt and uncle, but we can move forward and be better this time. They deserve their dignity and respect.
God fuckin dammit man. I am so sorry for your loss and your family. If those morons knew anything they would be focusing on where the police ended up finding him the most out of anything. Everything about the very end is just so confusing and upsetting I don't know how I would be able to process that myself. I truly hope you have been able to find peace about this.
@@Hugh_Jannisyou've never seen what a tornado can do up close I guess. They essentially cause explosions on anything enclosed. When they say he got sucked out, assume it wasn't in one piece.
I wasn't expecting that last one showing footage of the concert. My little brother's girlfriend was caught in it. What a horrendous tragedy that was. Brilliant video as always, but now I'm super depressed!
With Harley Dilly two of the most infamous "sleuths" became obsessed with this case; Armchair Dectective ( thank god his channels were terminated) and Zav Girl who should be kicked off this platform. FYI she was the youtuber who decided to show the autopsy photos of a murdered 12 year old boy).
So true. I despise people like the two you mentioned. They destroy (or try to destroy) the lives of so many innocent people based on nothing tangible. There’s a lot of truth to the old saying that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
my guess on the harley dilly "channel deleting in 2 years" thing has to do with him possibly making the original channel on a school email, which would be deleted after he was set to move up in the school. The main issue with this idea is that he was too young to be "graduating", where this is what happened when I graduated, but I'm guessing this was somewhat related to the harley dilly question.
Could be where the email was specific to the school and not the school system? So like maybe it would be deleted when he graduated from middle school instead?
about the harley dilly thing where he needed to make an account since the other would be deleted: schools give students gmail accounts and those gmail accounts can be used to make youtube channels, and when a student graduates from a school that email address is deleted. he likely made his first youtube channel at a young age using that school email, and the email would be deleted when he would graduate from that school (probably by 8th grade). this is actually what happened to my own first youtube channel!
the harley dilly story is really upsetting, especially personally as I was also an autistic child of emotionally neglectful, overly punitive parents who loved them but also saw them as a problem. i can sympathize somewhat with the public suspicion and backlash, but i think it was mostly unwarranted. not every neglectful parent is the type to think of murdering their own child. Not every situation will play out like a TV drama with a designated villain. by continuing to insist on a fantasy version of events, in the end you're just contributing to the overall misery of the situation. rest in peace harley
I do believe foul play did happen because a child would have never been able to get in there to begin with. And what police officer puts the jacket on the door before taking a picture of the crime scene But I wouldn’t harass anyone. Just hope that if foul play happened that those involved have a healthy dose of Karma come their way
@@andrewmaximo4485- Agree. There are so many fools online who know little about what the police are uncovering regarding a case but immediately start pointing fingers, often for no reason other than that they “have a feeling.” No one who viewed this video, or even viewed all of Harley’s, understands the entire dynamic between this family, nor were they there during the police investigation. To harass parents and accuse them of ending their own child is reprehensible.
She didn't directly murder him. But if he wasn't feeling neglected he wouldn't had have the need of hiding in an empty house for fear of what mommy could do to him I know people frowns upon "judging a book by its cover" but holy shit that lady has all the looks of emotionally abusing her kids
I'm sorry. But in what world is a child going to climb up an antenna onto the roof of a house and then down the chimney? That is so insanely unrealistic. Do I think the parents killed the kid? I don't know. But the idea that this was "some freak accident" just doesn't make sense. And those officers should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a nonsensical answer.
I'm kind of a tornado nerd, and footage from the Joplin tornado is some of the most heartbreaking, panic inducing stuff I've ever seen. Absolutely gutting. The tornado hit mainstreet in the city, right as the high-schools graduation was being let out, when no one expected it. Luckily the graduation was held away from the highschool, which was completely destroyed. Some people never found their cars... which is crazy to think about. Asphalt was scoured from the earth. The tornado was a MILE wide at its widest point. Terrifying. Rest in peace to Will and the 160 others who lost their lives as a result of the monster.
I'm used to tornados and live only miles from the place where the largest tornado ever hit, but the crazy thing about the Joplin one was how people weren't prepared for it. I have family in Joplin and thankfully they were okay but it took a bit to make sure they were okay. Crazy day.
If you are into 🌪️ tornados look up.the Xenia Ohio tornado. I lived not far and there wasn't much of Xenia left and it caused many many more tornadoes.
@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios I'm not a tornado buff like you but I am from Missouri so I bet our eyes bugged out at the same time when we heard the name of Will's hometown .... Joplin, Missouri "..."
Sorry, I know it's a windy subject, but I gotta mention tornado nerd. I keep imagining a nerd with tornado powers, but they are all kinda geeky and non functional. Like, someone calls the tornado nerd to act as a leaf blower, because he can create wind, but just enough to clear a sidewalk of leaves. Then someone hires him to screw something in place, but he doesn't use anything more than a screw and them spins his whole body in place while holding it. 😂
I didn’t know that Will Norton had a UA-cam channel. I’m from a town south of Joplin, and I used to work at a nursing home there. I remember that awful night vividly.
There's an abandoned channel called no joke Howard as well. He's a white American who decided to document his move to Mexico. He died soon after. Strangely he died after an altercation with a guy that lived in the same apartment building over loud music. Before his move to Mexico he documented his time living in Cambodia as well. He talked about everything from being bi sexual, drug addiction, and basically every day life and he answered questions from emails on his UA-cam channel.
@@bobo8778 I had a business associate that was a healthy, fit woman in her 30s. She was working out at the gym one day when she had a heart attack and passed away. Sometimes it just happens.
Geriatric1927 is honestly the more heartwarming story here. He seemed very jovial and wise, and had some very fascinating stories to tell. I personally do believe we need more channels like his. Rest in peace Peter
Maybe one day I will myself. My Texas accent will surely make some giggle. I was born in 1963. I have a few stories from my grandma to share as well as my own and loads of good advice for young people. And lots of useless bits of knowledge lol 😊
@@RepentfollowJesus I think you should. Such stories, knowledge, and wisdom should be shared and preserved, and if it's something that you believe in, go for it!
Poor Will. I lost my brother in law and his mom in that tornado. My sister was injured and never really got over it. It destroyed a lot of families. I feel for his family.
My goodness! When you see her next please give her a big hug (from an internet stranger but she doesn't need to know that!) I can't imagine losing my husband/his mom in such a way. I sincerely hope she is able to someday recover from this tragedy. I hope you are doing well, too! My condolences for your familys losses, may you all stay safe and healthy for the future❤
The Will segment made me cry. I am not a big cryer. But when his sister started talking about how she does his favorite things on the anniversary of his death, it really got me. And for his parents, losing their son must be devistating.
Tornados are so freaking scary. Every time there is a warning and the siren, I joke and make light of it, but, I’m always low key really scared. There’s just nothing you can do if one drops down on you, and it happens all the time. About a year ago, one hit less than a half mile from my mom’s house and destroyed so much stuff right down the road. Damn nature, you scary.
only been through two that touched down and it was terrifying especially bc my house is basically paper and wood and we have no tornado shelters like anywhere 😭
I always remembered when my ears popped that it was time to curl up in a ball wherever I was because it's here and I'm here.... And I want to remain here while it leaves lol
Okay, cast members of Martyn Hett's favorite show attending his funeral about broke me down. That was just beyond sweet. Oh my gosh! R.I.P. Martyn Hett. Never heard of him until this video, but he seemed to be such a sweet, special young man.
When I was prescribed an SSRI’s when I actually needed NDRI’s, I started having really realistic dreams of homicide and cannibalism, that turned into day dreams of the same. I stopped taking them and got brain zaps for months. Thankfully I was prescribed the dopamine reuptake inhibitors rather than the serotonin reuptake inhibitors and I got better. They’re a VERY dangerous thing if you don’t need them, and it’s so stupid that they’re given out like candy to anybody who says they’re sad without a proper mental evaluation.
Visiting a channel that you used to watch and like, that is now abandoned is like entering the room of a deceased loved one. Everything is still there in the same place, exactly as you remembered it. But they’re gone. You just feel empty and there’s nowhere for your feelings for them to go. They just twirl and die.
Same for social media pages. A year after a good friend of mine died, I looked at his page and it’s just… there. It hasn’t changed, and it never will, whether it’s “supposed” to or not
There is so much truth in that quote. “We shouldnt turn him into a monster. We shouldnt turn him into a hero. We need to think of him as exactly what he was. A pathetic fucking teenager”. Most people would love to be a hero. Some would love to be a monster. Nobody wants to be pathetic. We encourage this behavior with our media coverage of these incidents. Period.
A big part of that is the way that serial killers will be given a nickname and, with enough kills, will be made into celebrities. Names like The Angel of Death (applied to several), The Werewolf Butcher, and who can forget the eternally famous Jack the Ripper. Even serial rapists can get nicknames. You never see a serial killer get called "The Pathetic Edgelord".
@@unbroken1010 He was bullying the kid. That is pushing, whether he meant it to be or not. He's displaying what I think could be full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Even after the tragedy, he had to make sure everyone knew how special he was in calling it out, and what a victim HE was, since some people had questioned him. Poor baby.
Will seemed like such a sweet guy from his videos, it's heartbreaking that he lost his life before it even really began. I'm glad his sister is doing well and that she has so many happy memories of him to look back on.
Man stobe the hobo hits hard, i used to watch him actively while i was a teen, id spend summers train hopping occasionally because i couldnt afford to travel and i learned most of what i did from him, i stopped train hopping about a year before his death, rest in peace stobie
WillDaBeast's story absolutely breaks my heart into pieces. He seemed so genuine and sweet, the kind of positive person the world needs more of, snatched up right when his life was just beginning. Rest in peace, I hope he's making all the videos he wants up in heaven
@@Hatsune-Miku_Fan Did you know that when you lose one sense, your other senses are heightened? That explains why your sense of humor is lacking but sense of self importance is strong.
@@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223 no like this video is about sad stories and you commented saying it's funny ur on the wrong video cuz this videos about sad stories and stuff double check the video next time XD
I just watched an hour and a half video about youtubers dying. I don't know why this was on my feed, but you have a great voice and are pretty decent at keeping people engaged.
I knew at least one of these would make me cry. I made it through Will and all the way to the end and then Martyn got me. Thank you for covering these in such a respectful way.
I am currently on what happened to Will Norton and it's heartbreaking. The Joplin tornado was terrifying and the fact that so many people died. Will died the day he celebrated such a huge life achievement, too. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Discovering this video, randomly, going down the rabbit hole of UA-cam, at 3am... I always got that eerie feeling when I would come across old profiles. While some of these were a bit more known, I happen to come across a lot where they have only 5 - 20 subscribers, obviously from the early UA-cam days. Some are really good music covers, instrument covers, or even grainy looking recorded outings, or video game coverage. You get this feeling of loneliness, or the thought-provoking: "Why have they never returned??" Even if they only had a few videos, some, even just a mere one upload, it still gets you thinking. Nonetheless, there is sadness in all of these stories. Will Norton's story hit me pretty hard, along with Chloe's; what a sad, sad happening. Glad to hear that he is honored, and not forgotten. What a beautiful soul! So eerie, indeed, of his story about him being in harms way on his way to school, only to be taken away by the biggest Tornado the area has seen since all those years ago. R.I.P. Will
I felt a pit in my stomach seeing yoteslayas name come up. He was fucking huge in the borderlands and Black ops zombies communities. Idk if he was brought up in the video past the intro but he was partying with his step bro and girlfriend or something along those lines and the were all 3 drinking and driving and sadly their vehicle was hit by a train.The only channel in the Borderlands community that really honors his life Morninafterkill Another channel that should've been mentioned seeing as it was HUGE is Talkingkittycat. SteveCash83 used to make these videos that took heavy inspiration off of the old school N2 talking cat videos and they made a pretty big chunk of yt history. He had a lot of mental health issues and I'm sad I didn't see it nor catch on. Sometime in 2019/2020 his battle against himself took its toll and he took his own life with a bullet to the chest. It's sad losing these guys and you never think it going to happen until it's too late
The second he mentioned an Ariana Grande concert and Manchester in the same vein, my heart dropped. Didn't even need to see the end to know where it was going.
I've never come across a mention of that bombing in years but when I heard that Martin lost his life in an Ariana Grande concert, somehow my brain still managed to instantly dig up what exact event was being talked about and I frowned accordingly.
God I remember that day so vividly. My uncle passed away on the same day, not in the attack, and every time the date rolls around I light a candle. It was just so so heartbreaking.
They're all really sad cases in some form or another. But that Harley one is especially sad to me; because that kid must have been absolutely terrified before he died.
As much as I hate conspiracy theories, I feel like it’s a bit disingenuous to take the police explanation on the matter or at least rule it out as the one definitive truth. I couldn’t for the life of me believe a smart and bright kid like that would put himself in a situation that he probably knew he wouldn’t get out of
Holy how would his parents feel you guys watch to much true crime please grow an actual heart, and brain. Think more than “it have be parent it always parent.”
Stobe is a legend. We in the railroad community love and mourn him to this day. He was a genuine guy, very knowledgeable and a wonderful person to be around.
I found HobeStobe the very same week he passed away. I had binged every single video that he'd uploaded, caught up in a week, and was excited to see his next video. I was devastated when I learned he'd passed away while I was playing catch-up. He always seemed like such an intelligent and thoughtful person. I had hoped to hear more of his unique perspectives on life and watch more of his adventures... Except I would never see more. He was just gone... I wanted to get back into model railroading. I'm gonna have a tiny little HobeStobe ride the rails, and he'll never have to ride an FNBS hopper... Never ever....
you aren’t in the railroad community if you’re applauding him, you’re a railfan commenting on trains. no actual railroad worker likes these people, they’re a liability to the trains and make their jobs worse. he was a criminal trespassing on railroad property putting himself in danger and paid the ultimate price: what happened to him is why actual railroad workers hate hobos!
My cadaver dog and I worked Search and Rescue in the Joplin tornado, I lived 45 minutes away. It was the worst deployment I’ve had anywhere, state, country. I quit after 13 years. That’s all I’ll say about the horror I found under debris.
Thank you for your service. So sorry you had to go searching for the horror, but I’m sure it still brought families peace to at least have an answer. I hope you’re able to put it behind you ❤️ Jesus bless you and give you peace.
Thank you for doing that horrible thankless job. I'm sure your courage gave closure to many families who would have been left wondering. I hope you are ok.
Thank you, I know I’m the 5th person to say it but I mean it. I don’t think I’d have it in me to do what you did for work but the fact is someone needs to be there to do it and fortunately good hearted people like you are willing to. Take care
Ya Missouri weather is bipolar. This week for example we had high of 80 and low 20s at night all under 24 hrs People no joke do not know how crazy it gets here in missouri
I don't like to cry, but seeing what Martyn's mom did in response to the disaster and the fact that his stepdad got the tattoo of something that would have meant so much to him has me blubbering like a baby. As soon as you said "Ariana Grande concert" my stomach sank, I hate that such a ray of sunshine was wiped away from us so early.
I felt the exact way you have been discribing. What a horrible coincidence. The moment the concert was mentioned, my heart sank. I thought it was so meaningful too, that the members of the cast of the show have attended his funeral.
Same. I don't know him, don't know of the show except its name, but his story, especially the outpouring of love, tbe show's stars paying tribute, and both of his parents' responses, still hit hard and I teared up for sure. I had the same reaction too the moment he mentioned Ariana's name, & literally said "oh no" out loud. Poor kid... It's great to see that he left such a great legacy though - between the community he created & the real world good that the law in his name might do to prevent future deaths. ♥️
I'm from Joplin myself and was in Iraq when that tornado hit. Watching the news on AFN and being completely unable to call family was horrifying. It was one of the most stressful parts of that deployment. My heart goes out to Will's family for their loss and everything they had to go through.
@@toby1004me too. When I was a kid, I always had nightmares of tornadoes and whenever we got a tornado warning on the news I would try and hide in the basement 😞 the fact that such strong force of nature can rip apart towns, homes and loved ones and there's no way to control it, is so terrifying
I have family in Joplin. My sister was a nurse at the time and we weren't able to get ahold of her while it was happening. Sitting there and watching everything on TV was so horrifying and we were only 2 hours away. I couldnt imagine being in Iraq and going through that as well. I hope everyone was alright after the storm.
The people saying HobeStobe would never make such a rookie mistake have to remember that Father Time is undefeated. Although he was young, he had still been doing this thing for 10 years. With repeated action over such a lengthy period, your body starts to slow either from complacency or from wear. You are not as athletic, nimble, or agile at 33 as you were at 23.
Add in all the drinking and the likelihood of not taking proper care of his body, I'm sure his 33 had some extra aging. That's if it wasn't the drinking that caused his mistake.
I think Stobe knew he was going to die out on the rails. I remember a video he was in with (I think) RanOutOnARail or another young rider. He seemed unusually morose and regretful seeing folks below the age of 20 riding the rails. He had a very realistic outlook on the dangers of railhopping despite his cheeky persona.
Also the tune that he played first when he said hobe did his own music scores in his videos, well that was clearly the Beatles, Across The Universe. Maybe he did his own in most of the videos, I don't know. But that first one was the Beatles.
This video came up in my recommended videos & I’m currently recovering from heart surgery I had yesterday in hospital. I’m really enjoying this video even with the sadness from it. You did a very respectable job on this!!!!!!!! From a new subscriber in Canada, Nancy! 🙂🇨🇦
Stobe is actually a huge legend in the train hopping and hitchhiking community, I found out when I went around the country and found one of his tags and the dude I was with told me the story, he was such a kind soul and genuinely one of the most down to earth creators I'd came across, truly a shame what happened but I like to think he did go out doing what he loved and has since been turned into a sort of hobo folk hero
As a crusty girl I believe I've heard of him before but my hopping was severely limited by active addiction and now that I'm clean I'm pregnant and stagnant 😭
@@DumpsterFairy97 you're never too old for the road, just the methods, sure you can't hop on a train with a kid strapped to your back but you can always take a weekend trip just going in one direction you never went before. Hell that's true for everything in life, never too old for anything just maybe need some different methods to make it work and then it's just like the first time you did it since you learn new nuances and strategies. Life is always full of potential never let yours grow stagnant friend! You always have a chance until you're in the ground and onto the next adventure in the cosmos of this beautiful universe we're lucky enough to call home
I became a hopper busker. As an old school UA-camr.....SO I CAN SAY: IF YOU'RE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE NOT LIVED WITHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, END IT GO TRAVEL, GO GO GO, THE FARCE OF SOCIAL MEDIA WILL BE THERE WHEN YOU'RE TOO OLD TO REGRET NEVER LEAVING YOUR HOME TOWN
you know just how to balance the disturbing and light hearted take on these stories. I cant stand channels that sit and joke the whole time, it takes away suspense. Keep up the great work man!
@@cristinauto Sorry if I have a mean tone, but I just want to ask. Did you not pay attention? in the place they lived tornado warnings were a common occurrence and they had survived many times before, so they thought they'd be alright. You shouldn't insult someone's dead relative, that's extremely disrespectful. What if that had been you?
The Martyn's story still breaks my heart till this day, he was just having fun uploading videos of his favorite show and was just vibing to the concert, its really messed up that something tragic has to happen whenever someone is just enjoying life. :(
Right? I downright cry when I saw his picture dress up as the character he loved so much 😢 I'm glad that at least he had a great time and seemingly had the support of those around him ❤
Yeah i feel so terrible to what happened to him and it feels so recent even though this was all the way back in 2017 at the ariana grande concert, i remember that being on the news but i never bothered to find out what happened as i wasnt as interested but this video tells me what happened now. Its even worse to find out it came from another muslim who committed a terror attack and took the life of martyn. As a muslim myself, this was a horrible thing to do from that guy and a sweet lovable guy such as martyn was cruelly taken with him along with all those who also died that day. RIP martyn
Through all the sad and disturbing of these stories, hearing the one about Peter, it was probably the most heartwarming story. It reminded me of my nan and the stories that she would tell us about the war and what she lived through. Will's, Martyn and Harley's stories broke my heart.
True me thats not all of it checked out phantom ghost shooter or the youtuber who fell into a mine or the anime tik tok girl who attacked her boyfriend ...
I always find it funny when people call serial k!llings or self deletion caused by bullying "natural selection", when in reality d34th by murd3r couldn't be any more unnatural, and they are just openly admitting to being a bunch of heartless, apathetic tw@s.
That story really gets to me because I was pretty much him. I was bullied pretty much my entire childhood, was put on antidepressants and I eventually had a psychotic break and was placed into a mental ward for my own safety. Once I got off the medication and began doing gym and martial arts my mental state improved almost immediately. To think that I could've ended up much the same as him
He wasn't even a good social Darwinist. That belief system has an entire different set for what is "better" since the nature of social behavior would weed out people that act antisocial more than anything else (like him)
@@death299 The thing about social darwinism is that it's BS, it was basically Darwin's stupid cousin getting paid by rich cunts to repeat how they were the best by nature. In essence, whenever a social darwinist tries to come up with good behaviours, they just create an idealized vision of themselves. It's toxic to themselves and others, because it makes them hate their own self while also anyone different. Then again, if they all offed themselves, it would be in line with their idea of cleansing society.
Geriatric1927, I will never forget you. I only learned of you today but you seem like such a sweet man. I wish I could have known you. I would have loved to sit and listen to you tell your stories. Rest peacefully Peter Oakley ❤️
@@sparkdrive2900i think it was mostly just wrong place wrong time. They had no way of knowing what was to come or that they would end up in the center of it, and I believe the tornado was on wills side of the car. Tornado warnings are so common in those places theyre often ignored as its basically the boy who cried wolf, and usually nothing would come of them. But this time it wasnt just a warning, and many people lost their lives or loved ones because of it
From my understanding (an article I read somewhere a few years ago)..Stobe passed away due to trying to jump OFF a train in a hurry, the strap to his backpack/bag got caught on the train and caused it to go wrong. Alcohol may have been involved slightly but his strap getting caught on the train when he jumped is what caused it…I could be misremembering though.
I'd say alcohol had quite a bit to do with it. In every video he either had alcohol with him or he was drinking it. Not to mention the article where he admitted that being drunk almost got him killed before. Seemed like he was an alcoholic. Very sad story, but I guess at least he died doing what he loved.
From what I read, he jumped off a freight train and then his bag got snagged by an Amtrak train moving on an adjacent line...and you can imagine the rest
There’s an abandoned channel I found that had a shocking reason. I’m from Louisiana and go hiking a lot. A while back I found a channel called Louisiana Hikes where a man named Eric Heber films various trails and what they’re like, sometimes with his adorable daughter and dog. At the time, it showed he hadn’t uploaded in a few months, which isn’t that long, I just assumed it’s been a minute since his last upload. I went to follow him on Instagram and that’s when I discovered he had taken his own life. I was shocked. They have since uploaded a memorial video.
My friend Collin Crane of Batavia,NY passed away in December of 2012. One year before he graduated. Alot of these youtube dates, and cases made me think. I miss my friend so badly.
My heart sank as soon as wavy said Martyn was "preparing for an Arianna Grande concert that was to take place in Manchester". I still can't believe that happened
Neither can I, it still makes my eyes well up every time. Opening up facebook that morning thinking wtf has happened then seeing people share things around of either news of it and photos/videos from people who were there put up of the chaos and fear along with some photos of clothing that had well things from other people on them. My heart breaks knowing the fact 22 innocent people died even someone as young as 8 all because of some evil person/group.
@@ryandavies-kj2ixIt’s just horrible to think, even all these years later. As someone who loves going to gigs it made me so angry. No-one should ever go to a gig and not come home :( One of my good friends sisters was injured at the arena. When you aren’t directly from Manchester you don’t assume that anyone you know, or their friends or family could be caught up in it. She had to have surgery on her legs from shrapnel but, thankfully, she wasn’t more seriously injured. Of course we all need to remember those that lost their lives but I think many forget about those that ended up having life-changing injuries from it, and those that will have been scarred psychologically. It’s not just those that were injured but many of the people there must have seen some awful sights, that no one should ever have to see, that night.
I don't think that's a fair characterization. If they were travelling from a school event, it seems like a Lot of people weren't taking it seriously @@sparkdrive2900
Bro... every now and then I try to search up abandoned channels or at least one that are lost to me, this is my favourite ''topic''... AN HOUR AND A HALF BROOOOOOOO YESSSsssssss
Honestly I appreciated the more heartwarming story in the middle there, it was nice and it is an hour and a half video after all. It gave my heart a bit of a break lmao
@@judahbarracuda_same!! It’s still so very sad he had stage 4 cancer but I agree with the creators comment that we need more oral historians telling their stories in old age. We miss out on so much wisdom as people of his generation pass on - Covid wiped out so many people who lived through and fought in WW2, and so many of our grandfathers just couldn’t talk about it. 💔💔 I’ll definitely be looking for his channel ❤️
Thanks for putting in the more wholesome story of Geriatric1927. It was nice to hear about a old man embracing new online culture and using it to tell his story to newer generations in his final days. A well-needed break from the other tragedies.
I'm always fascinated by the few surviving WWII vets. My great grandfather served in the British Army and was present at the Dunkirk evacuation among other things. Sadly he died long before I was even born, when my dad was a kid in the early 80s.
My dad’s UA-cam channel is abandoned, he passed away in 2018 and his channel’s name is @MyGoingsOn he used to restore vehicles and goes to car shows and video random content. He is missed dearly. 😔
I remember my youtube idol when I was younger. I used to watch TalkingKittyCat's (SteveCash84) videos, they gave me so much joy.. I found out that April in 2020 or 2021, he had committed s*cide... In his last video, his ending notes were stating how he strugged with bipolar depression.. I remember what I felt that day when I found out. I remember sobbing for about 3 hours, I was just in complete denial... I miss him so much and still can't believe he's gone. What a waste of a wonderful person. Rest in Peace, Steve.
I remember how much support he got from his fans when he admitted his struggle with bipolar disorder, but the worst enemy can be the one inside your own head.
I remember ...Sylvester the cat ....I felt so sad to hear what happened ...had enjoyed his videos very much and they were entertaining ...missed his videos ...RIP
I knew someone who was in that school in Finland at that time. We met online, and just a couple of months before it happened we met in person on a convention here in Sweden. To this day I remember having a blast with them, basically connecting further because they were Finn, and well... so am I, technically, although a second gen immigrant in Sweden. Then 2 months later, I heard from my mum about what happened, who had heard it from her siblings and read about it on the news. I think it was around 10 days before I heard from the person, to hear they were alive. They hadn't been hurt, but they were traumatised, suffering what I now know would be PTSD symptoms, which makes sense. They never had the same presence online again, and eventually, I lost contact completely because they disappeared off all accounts I knew they had at the time and most of those places have since closed down too. I still think about the entire thing. Not often, but I do. I hope that person is doing okay these days.
These hit so hard... but in the end, you've gotta celebrate the fact that they were people doing their thing and living life giving you tiny glimpses of what things were like elsewhere from you. The unpolished days of YT were and still are the best that could have been. RIP to all these creators.
Well I would say rest in piss to Mr. NaturalSelection or whatever the fuck his dumb name was. Rest in Peace to those that died because of everyone neglecting the signs and his instability
For the thing about a UA-cam channel being deleted “in two years”, it makes me think the kid made it with his school account and then realized that said accounts aren’t permanent. Could be wrong tho.
Wavy's gotta be one of my favorite UA-cam documentarian/storyteller type creators. A lot of interesting topics, many of which I find myself surprised that I didn't actually know before, and he does a good job of covering them.
The why files along with that chapter are really good as well. I've been a long time subscriber of both since their subscriber count was still in the 4or5 digits range and they keep upping their game like wavy and more so with "The Why Files" and I'm always looking for new content to check out so if you like wavys content I highly suggest them too
Correction @01:15:20, Brian aka Yoteslaya was NOT driving the car when he died it was his friend Ryan - whose body was found pinned behind the steering wheel. Also it's pronounced 'yotee slayer' - 'yote' is the last part of the word 'coyote'.
God bless Harley's soul, what a terrible way to go and I can only imagine the absolute agony his mother felt and still feels to this day about her baby being suffocated to death In a chimney nearby. I hope his family and friends can find peace 🕊️
Geriatric1927 reminded me of a gentlemen I'd listen too when my Pa was in a retirement home, he'd tell me stories of WW1. He'd always say it's good to have someone to talk too, as no one [here] wanted listened to stories about the war. I was about 8 or 10, and he was in his 80's yet still wore his medal's with much pride. I'll never forget those times .. ..
28:59 I’m actually dealing with rehabilitating a torn bicep, myself. He must have been holding onto his son with every ounce of strength he could muster.
The best thing about that NaturalSelector story is that he died thinking he would be a martyr for some big revolution... but he got lost to history and hardly anyone remembers him It's just a shame he took his victims with him
As someone who grew up and lives with Aspergers/high functioning autism as it's classed now, I kinda recognize myself a bit in Harley Dilly, with some of the fits (but not as violent or troubeling) and how he was upset by plans being changed by his mom. But also I feel his death being an accident is highly likely as if i was in the same situation I might've tried the same
the weird part of that is that he went through the chimney. Not by dinding an open window or something else. He had to freestyle climb a 2 story house via an antenna pole..walk across an angled roof to a chimney and try to slip down it. Something not possible in most chimneys
@@bibbobellaYeah, the refusal to put guards on site is largely political. They love using school shootings to fool the naive into giving up their only real defense against the government.
@@biazacha natural selector was in Finland and since they didn't really experience much Islamic terrorism until the mass influx of Muslim after the Syrian Civil War and rise of ISIS they didn't have the same focus on terrorism the US did. They Aldo didn't really have a major history of school shootings so it's a hit understandable that they may not have taken it super seriously. The fact it was a random foreigner calling the cops halfway around the planet based off internet arguments probably didn't help things. TJ being rather arrogant and condescending probably didn't help either. Also the US still took school shootings pretty seriously after 9/11 especially since they feared terrorist attacks on infrastructure, military installations, and government buildings including schools. I know I had regular active shooter drills all through the 2000s and 9/11 if anything made people more paranoid since terrorists could kill thousands of people on any random morning
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This is how I realized I have my own personal Mandela effect. I could have sworn this channel's name was spelled with two v's at one point.
The first guy shooting a .22 and pretending to have recoil is so funny. Even pistols chambered for .22wmr should not have you moving your hand like that. Like at all.
Dude. I shit you not my heart stopped beating at Harley’s section. We were in the same class and at our graduation they had a tribute to him. I’m glad people are still talking about him, he was kind to those who were kind to him.
The comment about his channel getting deleted is because he would lose access to it due to it being a school email.
I'm so sorry for your loss man, that's just terrible... no one should go through that
His story resonates with me the most because I also have autism. However, I got to make it past when he passed. Rest in Peace to the young man and I pray all affected by his passing have found peace with his tragic passing
he seemed like such a sweet kid
And if you believe that then you will believe anything
That is awful, I am so sorry for your loss
Imagine how horrible that dad felt. he tried to protect his son only for him to be literally ripped from him. I’d be devastated. Rest in peace Will
Yeah, exactly. Men simply dont stand a chance against nature at that level. I hope he doesn't blame himself for it.
That was my thoughts
Hearing his sister talk about it, too. Heartbreaking. I'm glad she's apparently doing well.
I could never imagine that pain 💔. I had one child that i found passed away from S.I.Ds at 5 months. I never had another child because I could never go through that pain again. God bless all the parents who lost children 🙏.
@Leto85 I agree. I blamed myself for so many yrs when i lost my son to SIDS people told me it happens and i wouldn't have been able to make a difference. But as his father i felt i should have protected him some how. I was so hurt i got on my Harley and just hit the road for some time. I chose to never have another child. I couldn't bare the pain of that again.
28:20 My father was supposed to be in that building that day (he had been staying/visiting there for cancer treatments). He went home instead... thinking I was going to be in town that day... he wanted to meet me at his house. Something came up and I wasn't in Joplin that day. The tornado went down the opposite side of my Dad's street... wiping every house off the map. It spared his side of the street. He didn't even have a basement to go into. He watched it from his living room window. He decided to let fate deal his hand at that point. He had luck on his side that day. He also beat cancer shortly after. Tough SOB.
What a fucking boss
your dad is an absolute legend
what a legend !!!!!!!!!
If only this is true
"Hey, it's me, Goku! I heard you're pretty strong!"
Harley's case absolutely wrecks me. He was an autistic child not given adequate support and obviously was lashing out to try and deal with the confusing, alienating, awful school life and his parents treated him like he was a normal kid acting out. Devastating.
no I disagree about him being treated like a "normal kid", locking your child out of the house is not treating them like a normal child. That's outright abuse no matter what...
idk about his dad but that woman, his mother, reminds a lot of my manipulative, neglectful, emotionally abusive etc. mother. I don't think she directly had anything to do with his death but the way they treated him contributed to him running away constantly and lashing out.
No he sounds like a brat that needed his ass kicked
imagine his last fews days before he passed on innthere from asphyxiation/malnurishment or whatevs
i imagine he suffered in there for at lest 2-4 days 😅
@@GoatLordOfEvilnice emoji there bozo
@@IDraw99 his dad seemed equally abusive and enabled the abuse
I cannot imagine the absolute horror of watching your son be sucked out of a car. I’m horrified and upset just listening to it. I’m glad his family is doing better. Rip.
The worst thing that can happen to a parent is their child dying before them. My deepest sympathies to the family
Same
Horrror? Don’t you mean hilarity? LOL
@@Mario87456I pray to god this is bait. Otherwise, You clearly need help.
@@Mario87456 mario would never say this. Consider your choices in life.
Martyn's stepdad getting a tattoo of him dressed up as his favorite character is so sweet but also so heartbreaking.
I literally fucking cried when I saw the tattoo 😭
I'm watching that part right now and struggling to fight the tears. Martyn was my age when he died. He seemed like so many of my friends. Honestly, he reminds me of my most recent boyfriend. I wish I could have known him. He seemed like he would have been a wonderful friend, and I can't imagine how deeply his family must miss him.
instantly teared up when i saw that. so sweet and so sad. what a great memorial to him
That legit made me smile... so sweet
I read this comment before I saw that part and I cried when I saw the tattoo, even though I knew it was coming.
will's story is so heartbreaking. literally driving away from highsccool graduation, a loving family and internet fanbase, just about to get his life started.
And everyone survived but him. That’s crazy.
I believe Harley Dilly’s first channel was made using a school email, and once he graduated, the account was deleted automatically. I believe this is the case because the exact same thing happened to me.
Maybe the Harley Dilly channel getting deleted in 2 years means he registered his first channel on a school email. School emails are usually deleted after the student graduates, like my first channel was deleted due to that.
Dilley was born in 2005 so he would’ve graduated
This is a very good answer and likely what Wavy is after. Makes perfect sense.
That's so sad. I wonder if UA-cam should incorporate some sort of legacy page where deceased UA-camrs have their channels protected from deletion. Something similar to what LiveJournal did since way back in the day if you weren't signing in, the site deleted journals after a year of not being active.
Why would disabling an email address result in the deletion of a youtube channel? That makes zero sense. UA-cam does not regularly check if the email used to register with still exists...
Same bro.. I was pissed when that happened because I was doing CoD videos in high school and got up to 3k subs and then boom, gone, all of it. Decided to not even try again tbh.
The willdabeast situation is really sad. As a midwesterner, NOBODY takes tornado watches seriously until a twister is spotted and the sirens are actively going off. Underestimating dangerous conditions like this is a stupid midwestern cultural attitude that my friends and family are seemingly proud to uphold
Makes sense, if an alert is on often without consequences it's basically the boy crying wolf
I’ve only lived in the Midwest for ten years and the amount of people who get excited for storms that are dangerous is insane. Just last night we had a 30 degree change and it brought some severe weather. Locally we were ok, we got lucky and it passed us but the backlash that the poor meteorologists got this morning was too much. Why not be grateful that people and their things were spared?
Same shit in Florida, we actually have storm/hurricane parties, evacuating is just a suggestion to us 😅
@@Faith_1337 i live in kansas and that weather was absolutely insane. from a windy 75 degrees to 20 and snowing and howling wind within hours
My family isn't PROUD to do nothing, we would hide if we had to, but there are so many false alarms that we just don't think about it tbh
The Chloe (Collossal Carnage) one hit me the hardest. My oldest daughter passed away 7 years ago at the age of 17, from suicide. And she was just like this girl, bubbly ALL the time. Head cheerleader, you just never saw her without a smile on her face. Then one day, she's gone. It is sad how hard it is to read our kids these days. I always considered myself a very attentive father, and I never saw it coming. Never. If only I would have asked more questions, or....something. I have no idea what else I could have done. But you parents out there, pay as much attention as you can to your kids. I'm sure there was a sign somewhere that I missed, don't miss it like I did. Please.
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Rest in peace
sorry ik i'm a stranger, but sending virtual hugs ❤
Lots of love to you
Martin's mom getting her master's in counterterrorism after his death made me tear up instantly
The tattoo that her husband got was so precious, too.
The Will Norton story almost made me cry at work man. That kid really had his whole life ahead of him.
Wah wah wah grow up it’s quite funny actually in a darkly humorous way.😂😂😂😂
are you just replying to everyone who comments on Will? weird, but i guess we all have hobbies. @@Mario87456
@@Mario87456 You are sick and twisted. Go get a life, you child and at least be respectful. He had his whole life ahead of him, yet it was cruelly taken by something he couldn’t have expected. You must be a terrible person to think that’s “funny”. Grow up.
@@Mario87456jump!
@Mario87456 grow up, says the person clearly acting like a child who just saw his first edgelord video.
Wildabeast left me in tears...not even half way thorugh the video and I'm already in tears... R.I.P to all the sweet souls.
Just me or does he kinda look like Wilbur Soot?
u know who Wilbur is? omgggg@@CharaPresscott6982
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo he will never look like that wretched beast@@CharaPresscott6982
Crybaby it’s actually quite funny LOL
@Mario87456 looks like someones going to hell..
The natural selector story is just frustrating. There's no telling if he'd have committed a violent crime later in life, but the failure of the Finnish medical system played a huge part. He was denied treatment he clearly needed, then put on medication that affected his behavior negatively. Any sane medical professional would have stopped that medication to try another
Unfortunately, cured patients make less money then ones that continue to go uncured
Yup. That's how it works in Finland. Mental health services here are a joke sometimes.
@@tiatoi not sometimes but most of the time. you have to fight to get help and when a person is in that condition they hardly have anyone to fight for them to get help. Bunch of pills don't solve these situations, they usually make it worse.
Sounds like he was bipolar, SSRIs trigger mania, BUT he also had some messed up ideologies…..so he may have done it no matter what….
No one bat an eye when he was bullied, not his parents not the school, but when those kids turn evil from bullying now everyone was concerned… people make demons of other people
I held it together until the final story. God that’s absolutely devastating and I can’t imagine how it felt for Martin’s family to hope that maybe he lost his phone again because it was within Martin’s character only to be told that he indeed died. I started crying when you revealed his stepdad got a matching tattoo in his memory but changed it to be his son cosplaying as his favorite character that he himself got tattooed on himself
Regarding Harley Dilley, chances are he opened his first channel with a school email account, which get deleted once the student leaves. I'm not sure what YT does (did) with channels created with these kinds of emails, but he probably believed YT was going to delete it once he left school.
I thought it may have been opened on UA-cam kids, which doesn't allow a lot of stuff. I only got rid of mine bc it limited or blocked almost anything and everything eg type of content and comments.
Yea i was goin to comment just this, when i went thru middle school and made accounts with my district email, i wasnt able to access any of these accounts after graduating. lol RIP my ps3 account
he did not know you can change your email address?
@@G4MER28 never thought about it + i switched platforms so its more of a lost relic anyways
I was just thinking the same thing. I had a school email that was hosted on Gmail's servers instead of a local exchange server somewhere on campus. It was probably before Google merged all of their account services into one thing, so I never had anything other than email--but I know I've since had a GSuite account with an employer that would log me into all the Google/Alphabet owned services including UA-cam. So, that must've been what was going on with this kid. I'm also not aware of whether or not he could've migrated or merged his videos or channel into another personal Gmail account, but it's' possible that he couldn't have done that, since their GSuite accounts aren't treated like personal accounts where you can do that, and it's basically up to the organization paying for the account to decide whether or not they want to keep his data or wipe it after they disable the account.
I'm from Finland and the first part of the video is really well done, just a little side note that at 14:14-14:19 the news footage isn't related to Jokela's case, but another school shooting which happened in 2008, not too long after Jokela shootings. It was at Kauhajoki and the person was inspired to do it bc of Eric. It's just a minor mix up, the rest of the footage is correct/related to the case. Nice work!
Do you think they were inspired by all the US school shootings?
I didn't even realize that it was the Jokela shooting until he said about the manifest being in Finnish and English. But really cool knowing that Finnish cases are also discussed outside of Finnish UA-camrs. Kuitenkin kiitos tästä kommentistasi, koska avaat tämän tiedon 😊
@@karousii Kiitti, tiesin et on Jokelasta kyse, kun eräs brittiläinen true crime kanava teki videon Ericistä ja avas Jokelan tapausta kyseisellä videolla. Ite ollu tosi nuori ku koko juttu tapahtu ja itellä iha pimennossa ollu pitkään, et kuka tää tekijä on ollu jne. :")
Remember hearing about thatnis school as I was kid and living in Sweden at the time
@@karousii😊
People in Finland still talk about Jokela's school shooting, it truly shook us so much we still remember where we were and all the news
Because this kind of thing is beyond rare in Finland.
@Xeirn lake bodom has entered the chat
@@JK-gm6kk They aren't wrong. And Lake Bodom has nothing to do with shootings, it was a stabbing attack on some campers. Over the last 20 years, how many shootings do you think were in Finland? Like 4. Over the last 10 years, how many do you think have been in the US? Over 4000... They weren't wrong when they said it was beyond rare.
Do they ever mention AmazingAtheist?
A lot of the older people don’t speak English, so wouldn’t be very familiar with the English speaking side of UA-cam, others don’t even know the shooter was on UA-cam. It’s talked about nonetheless as a very severe failure of the ever crumbling bits of what little mental health care is still left
As a Finnish person about the same age as NaturalSelector89, those videos are burned into my mind.
I remember that day very clearly. it felt really weird, the school day came to a stop, even though this happened on the other side of the country.
It was not something anyone believed could actually happen and it shook everyone.
A few months later, a rumor started going around about there being a potential school shooter in our school.
Turned out the rumors were about one of my friends. He was just a shy kid and when the school talked to him about it, it broke him.
The school had to address the situation over the intercom system and my friend needed a few weeks off to recover.
It goes to show how easily an incident like this can drive fear and distrust into a whole nation.
The most recent example of an abandoned channel is MittenSquad. The creator was battling with alcoholism and got help through rehab. One day, he posted saying he would be back to the video grind soon. He never did because he got sent to the hospital with severe organ failure and died. RIP Paul of MittenSqaud. This is where the real game begins.
I was so devastated 😢 will always miss his humor and the good he brought to UA-cam 😢
@@nadam844 he passed shortly after he made the post
@nadam844 An obituary and a thread on his discord proves that he has passed since that post.
I didn't know he died. I saw that post and was waiting for him to return. He made a big part of my senior year of college a lot more bearable. Rest in peace.
Agreed, loved that channel
It's scary to think that 50 years from now, there will be channels with millions of subs that have not uploaded in years, and tons of comments from dead people. It's scary to think about.
Doubtful youtube will be around in 50 years. Their leadership keeps implementing crap that people don't like.
Like silent movies but scarier
One day Wavy will be among them..
You will be too @@intothespiralingdepths3359
I mean, kinda....I think there might be a LOT more scarier things than that
The antidepressants making Eric aggressive, the rambling, the plans and his mindset changing....as someone who experienced similar stuff on SSRIs and SNRIs, that sounds like mania brought on by antidepressants. It's how many people find out they have bipolar.
Homicidal rage side-effects that come from withdrawals are not a lie.
That was a big role in Eric Harris’s aggression and decision making with Columbine. Dylans mother as well as Erics diary both expressed that once he was put on Zoloft, which is now known to also have severe aggression as a common side effect and is no longer prescribed as often, it was like a complete change in his attitude and he went from being sweet and rather shy and timid to being very outspoken and aggressive, Erics diary expressing how his hatred of this change in him only further fueled the hate in his heart but his doctors kept him on it because at that time they simply believed it was generic,hormonal teenage boy angst and unrelated to his anti depressants
Yep. I found out that I was Bipolar in a similar manner. They lowered my dosage and my manic episodes made themselves known. Thankfully, they put me on topamax and it helped balance things out.
The serotonin uptake has been inhibited. Billions must die.
too much acronyms
Willdabeast's story was indeed sad and terrifying. That's why I always take tornadoes very seriously, especially major ones. I can't imagine what his father felt from that F5 disaster.
Harley is my cousin. The channel was made with a school email that would be deleted when he was no longer in the school, hence the new channel. I believe he had hoped to make it a sustainable income source by the time he was 16 and leave school/emancipate himself.
Y'all have no idea what the true crime community put his parents through. It was beyond speculation to full-blown harassment while they were actively looking for/mourning their child.
My aunt, Heather, may not be perfect, but she was doing the best she could, often on her own bc my uncles job often had him away from home. There was a lot more going on than anyone on the outside knows about, and she did a pretty damn fine job given the circumstances and resources she was dealing with. Thats all I'll say about their family life, as they've had their privacy invaded enough.
I myself have always been a true crime fan, but the harm these people caused in their so-called pursuit of the truth has turned me off from these online communities completely. Too many people are too quick to point the finger while forgetting that these are real people. Everyone is innocent until proven guilty in court, but on the internet, it seems to be the opposite with no regard for the harm caused, and no reperations or apologies when their little theories are proven bunk.
Rest in peace, Harely. You are loved. You are missed.
Edit: I appreciate the outpouring of well wishes from many of you. I will not be replying to any more responses, but I do see them and appreciate them.
I also want to say, while I myself no longer wish to participate in the true crime communities outside of listening to the stories and keeping them in mind, be it as a life lesson or just to keep a lost person in my thoughts, I know that with the right mindset and morals a lot of good CAN be found. I urge anyone who holds a special interest in these stories to keep spreading FACTUAL awareness when it's appropriate - without personal bias or judgment, without finger pointing or direct/indirect harassment. Keep your eyes wide open and your ears keen when a person is missing or a BOLO issued. Share tips and information through the proper channels. Moderate yourselves and stand up against poor behavior within your communities. When terrible things happen, more often than not, someone out there knows something, and speaking up in the PROPER way can sometimes be the difference between a solved case and a cold case. With those principles in mind, you CAN contribute to making a difference without contributing to harm and enabling those who seek a sick sense of pleasure from spreading hate instead of facts.
I'm so sorry for your family's loss.
Sorry for your loss
We can’t go back and undo the harm we did your aunt and uncle, but we can move forward and be better this time. They deserve their dignity and respect.
God fuckin dammit man. I am so sorry for your loss and your family. If those morons knew anything they would be focusing on where the police ended up finding him the most out of anything. Everything about the very end is just so confusing and upsetting I don't know how I would be able to process that myself. I truly hope you have been able to find peace about this.
The true crime communities are full of insane people that are willing to do some grimey stuff. Very volatile.
29:43 That's funny that Kat Von D. drew a picture of herself in memory of Will.
Is it entirely surprising though?
I thought the same thing
Kat has rotten her brain. The thing is Swiss Cheese now 🤣😂
How self centered can one be...
fr its so annoying- like its literally a memorial item that u wanted to do for him but u make it about urself?@@pianoplaynight
That Will story is sad asf. Especially the fact that his Dad survived with only minor injuries. Geez, what are the odds of that ?
1 Out of 2 or 50%.
/shrug
@@makaveli087 That isn't how probability works....
@moopflop8560 I mean it's right, you have a 50/50 chance of survival 😊
You can't even do feelings right. It's just like magilla the go r1la trying to have feelings
@@Hugh_Jannisyou've never seen what a tornado can do up close I guess. They essentially cause explosions on anything enclosed. When they say he got sucked out, assume it wasn't in one piece.
I wasn't expecting that last one showing footage of the concert. My little brother's girlfriend was caught in it. What a horrendous tragedy that was. Brilliant video as always, but now I'm super depressed!
With Harley Dilly two of the most infamous "sleuths" became obsessed with this case; Armchair Dectective ( thank god his channels were terminated) and Zav Girl who should be kicked off this platform. FYI she was the youtuber who decided to show the autopsy photos of a murdered 12 year old boy).
Zav girl did not only show, but SOLD those photos I believe. What a fuckin piece if shit 😒
So true. I despise people like the two you mentioned. They destroy (or try to destroy) the lives of so many innocent people based on nothing tangible. There’s a lot of truth to the old saying that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
weirdos like them are why internet justice will always come off as shit
If it was a 18 year old boy wouldn't be acceptable?. You can watch a damn autopsy on youtube.
@@lotus_flower2000 I’m pretty sure she actually sold those photos for money. I can see your point though in a way.
my guess on the harley dilly "channel deleting in 2 years" thing has to do with him possibly making the original channel on a school email, which would be deleted after he was set to move up in the school. The main issue with this idea is that he was too young to be "graduating", where this is what happened when I graduated, but I'm guessing this was somewhat related to the harley dilly question.
Could be where the email was specific to the school and not the school system? So like maybe it would be deleted when he graduated from middle school instead?
He may have just been moving schools, my friends lost their old school emails in grade 10 because they switched schools
If his plan was to transfer to another district for high school then his middle school e-mail would be deleted at that time.
@@DistractedGlobeGuy i agree with all three of yall, it just seems like the most likely explanation to me too
you can change your email, you d4mb@ss
about the harley dilly thing where he needed to make an account since the other would be deleted: schools give students gmail accounts and those gmail accounts can be used to make youtube channels, and when a student graduates from a school that email address is deleted. he likely made his first youtube channel at a young age using that school email, and the email would be deleted when he would graduate from that school (probably by 8th grade). this is actually what happened to my own first youtube channel!
came to comment this
When I was a kid we used our own emails . I remember in like 7th grade telling my teacher my email was mexicanpimp0
I had the same school account until I graduated high school.
That step dad's tattoo broke me. That was beautiful.
❤omg me too. I’m just watching now and that is tears. Be like Martyn.
the harley dilly story is really upsetting, especially personally as I was also an autistic child of emotionally neglectful, overly punitive parents who loved them but also saw them as a problem. i can sympathize somewhat with the public suspicion and backlash, but i think it was mostly unwarranted. not every neglectful parent is the type to think of murdering their own child. Not every situation will play out like a TV drama with a designated villain. by continuing to insist on a fantasy version of events, in the end you're just contributing to the overall misery of the situation. rest in peace harley
The internet detective sensational narratives and the harassment that ensued ticked me off.
I do believe foul play did happen because a child would have never been able to get in there to begin with. And what police officer puts the jacket on the door before taking a picture of the crime scene
But I wouldn’t harass anyone. Just hope that if foul play happened that those involved have a healthy dose of Karma come their way
@@andrewmaximo4485- Agree. There are so many fools online who know little about what the police are uncovering regarding a case but immediately start pointing fingers, often for no reason other than that they “have a feeling.” No one who viewed this video, or even viewed all of Harley’s, understands the entire dynamic between this family, nor were they there during the police investigation. To harass parents and accuse them of ending their own child is reprehensible.
She didn't directly murder him. But if he wasn't feeling neglected he wouldn't had have the need of hiding in an empty house for fear of what mommy could do to him
I know people frowns upon "judging a book by its cover" but holy shit that lady has all the looks of emotionally abusing her kids
I'm sorry. But in what world is a child going to climb up an antenna onto the roof of a house and then down the chimney?
That is so insanely unrealistic.
Do I think the parents killed the kid? I don't know. But the idea that this was "some freak accident" just doesn't make sense. And those officers should be ashamed of themselves for allowing such a nonsensical answer.
I'm kind of a tornado nerd, and footage from the Joplin tornado is some of the most heartbreaking, panic inducing stuff I've ever seen. Absolutely gutting. The tornado hit mainstreet in the city, right as the high-schools graduation was being let out, when no one expected it. Luckily the graduation was held away from the highschool, which was completely destroyed. Some people never found their cars... which is crazy to think about. Asphalt was scoured from the earth. The tornado was a MILE wide at its widest point. Terrifying. Rest in peace to Will and the 160 others who lost their lives as a result of the monster.
I'm used to tornados and live only miles from the place where the largest tornado ever hit, but the crazy thing about the Joplin one was how people weren't prepared for it. I have family in Joplin and thankfully they were okay but it took a bit to make sure they were okay. Crazy day.
If you are into 🌪️ tornados look up.the Xenia Ohio tornado. I lived not far and there wasn't much of Xenia left and it caused many many more tornadoes.
@CatladyKiefFingers_deLarios I'm not a tornado buff like you but I am from Missouri so I bet our eyes bugged out at the same time when we heard the name of Will's hometown ....
Joplin, Missouri
"..."
Sorry, I know it's a windy subject, but I gotta mention tornado nerd. I keep imagining a nerd with tornado powers, but they are all kinda geeky and non functional. Like, someone calls the tornado nerd to act as a leaf blower, because he can create wind, but just enough to clear a sidewalk of leaves. Then someone hires him to screw something in place, but he doesn't use anything more than a screw and them spins his whole body in place while holding it. 😂
I don't know much about tornados but it's wild to me that it just came out of nowhere and no one predicted it. Deeply unfortunate and tragic.
I didn’t know that Will Norton had a UA-cam channel. I’m from a town south of Joplin, and I used to work at a nursing home there. I remember that awful night vividly.
There's an abandoned channel called no joke Howard as well. He's a white American who decided to document his move to Mexico. He died soon after. Strangely he died after an altercation with a guy that lived in the same apartment building over loud music. Before his move to Mexico he documented his time living in Cambodia as well. He talked about everything from being bi sexual, drug addiction, and basically every day life and he answered questions from emails on his UA-cam channel.
Why was it necessary to mention that he was white?
Didn't he die from a heart attack?
@@steve9473 yes that's what his mom said but he was in pretty good shape. He worked at a gym and did kickboxing but then again he was a drug addict.
@@bobo8778 I had a business associate that was a healthy, fit woman in her 30s. She was working out at the gym one day when she had a heart attack and passed away. Sometimes it just happens.
@@bobo8778probably undiagnosed cardiac condition
Geriatric1927 is honestly the more heartwarming story here. He seemed very jovial and wise, and had some very fascinating stories to tell. I personally do believe we need more channels like his. Rest in peace Peter
he reminds me of Batman's butler.
Maybe one day I will myself. My Texas accent will surely make some giggle. I was born in 1963. I have a few stories from my grandma to share as well as my own and loads of good advice for young people. And lots of useless bits of knowledge lol 😊
@@RepentfollowJesus I think you should. Such stories, knowledge, and wisdom should be shared and preserved, and if it's something that you believe in, go for it!
Poor Will. I lost my brother in law and his mom in that tornado. My sister was injured and never really got over it. It destroyed a lot of families. I feel for his family.
I can't even imagine! It's horrifying! I'm sorry that happened to your family.
My goodness! When you see her next please give her a big hug (from an internet stranger but she doesn't need to know that!) I can't imagine losing my husband/his mom in such a way. I sincerely hope she is able to someday recover from this tragedy. I hope you are doing well, too!
My condolences for your familys losses, may you all stay safe and healthy for the future❤
always wear your seatbelt…his son wasn’t
The Will segment made me cry. I am not a big cryer. But when his sister started talking about how she does his favorite things on the anniversary of his death, it really got me. And for his parents, losing their son must be devistating.
Tornados are so freaking scary. Every time there is a warning and the siren, I joke and make light of it, but, I’m always low key really scared. There’s just nothing you can do if one drops down on you, and it happens all the time. About a year ago, one hit less than a half mile from my mom’s house and destroyed so much stuff right down the road. Damn nature, you scary.
been through 3 in my life and its terrifying, One didnt even touch the ground and it was horrifying
only been through two that touched down and it was terrifying especially bc my house is basically paper and wood and we have no tornado shelters like anywhere 😭
I always remembered when my ears popped that it was time to curl up in a ball wherever I was because it's here and I'm here.... And I want to remain here while it leaves lol
Tornadoes are not scary only pussys die of a tornado
That's all you can do, make some light hearted jokes to relieve the anxiety of it all.
Okay, cast members of Martyn Hett's favorite show attending his funeral about broke me down. That was just beyond sweet. Oh my gosh! R.I.P. Martyn Hett. Never heard of him until this video, but he seemed to be such a sweet, special young man.
Same! And it makes me so sad cuz he would've loved to have met them and I hate that he never got to. He didn't deserve this.
@@CosmoQueen2900m
Same.. I'm literally crying
.. thanks wavy
I also cried hearing that
It’s also very sweet of his stepdad to get a tattoo of him in cosplay
The willdabeast story was heartbreaking. As soon as you mentioned Joplin, i was like oh no 🥺
Same, so sad. It's wild that nature can be so completely destructive that it changes the legacy of some towns forever
Good willdabeast went to hell
That poor kid. He seemed like such a cool dude too.
@@jamesAGarfield608 attention seeker spotted, here's a single interaction to satiate your desperation
@@jamesAGarfield608 you aren't funny, don't be a douche
When I was prescribed an SSRI’s when I actually needed NDRI’s, I started having really realistic dreams of homicide and cannibalism, that turned into day dreams of the same. I stopped taking them and got brain zaps for months. Thankfully I was prescribed the dopamine reuptake inhibitors rather than the serotonin reuptake inhibitors and I got better. They’re a VERY dangerous thing if you don’t need them, and it’s so stupid that they’re given out like candy to anybody who says they’re sad without a proper mental evaluation.
Yea they can raise aggression, luckily I’ve only gotten that when withdrawing from Zoloft, I just felt an extreme sense of anger and tension
I dust trust medications. I just smoke meth. PSYCHOSIS GANG 💯🔥😜
@@liquidcrystal666😂😂😂
@@Azurite.. what?
@@liquidcrystal666 just thought your comment was funny that’s all.
Visiting a channel that you used to watch and like, that is now abandoned is like entering the room of a deceased loved one. Everything is still there in the same place, exactly as you remembered it. But they’re gone. You just feel empty and there’s nowhere for your feelings for them to go. They just twirl and die.
which is more sad? what you've just described? or checking up on someone to find they're a husk of their former self?
Wow, that is morbidly beautiful.
Or one that's been sold off and changed..
Primik 😭
Same for social media pages. A year after a good friend of mine died, I looked at his page and it’s just… there. It hasn’t changed, and it never will, whether it’s “supposed” to or not
There is so much truth in that quote. “We shouldnt turn him into a monster. We shouldnt turn him into a hero. We need to think of him as exactly what he was. A pathetic fucking teenager”. Most people would love to be a hero. Some would love to be a monster. Nobody wants to be pathetic. We encourage this behavior with our media coverage of these incidents. Period.
A big part of that is the way that serial killers will be given a nickname and, with enough kills, will be made into celebrities. Names like The Angel of Death (applied to several), The Werewolf Butcher, and who can forget the eternally famous Jack the Ripper. Even serial rapists can get nicknames. You never see a serial killer get called "The Pathetic Edgelord".
@@Cyrus_T_Laserpunchedge lords? Are you a virgin?
Bro was bullying a teenager even after he pushed him to commit mass murder and suicide.
@@ericstaples7220 no one was pushing a thing. You read too much comics
@@unbroken1010 He was bullying the kid. That is pushing, whether he meant it to be or not. He's displaying what I think could be full blown Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Even after the tragedy, he had to make sure everyone knew how special he was in calling it out, and what a victim HE was, since some people had questioned him. Poor baby.
Will seemed like such a sweet guy from his videos, it's heartbreaking that he lost his life before it even really began. I'm glad his sister is doing well and that she has so many happy memories of him to look back on.
Man stobe the hobo hits hard, i used to watch him actively while i was a teen, id spend summers train hopping occasionally because i couldnt afford to travel and i learned most of what i did from him, i stopped train hopping about a year before his death, rest in peace stobie
WillDaBeast's story absolutely breaks my heart into pieces. He seemed so genuine and sweet, the kind of positive person the world needs more of, snatched up right when his life was just beginning. Rest in peace, I hope he's making all the videos he wants up in heaven
Almost teared up listening to it!!!
@@Hatsune-Miku_Fan Did.
@@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223 ur on the wrong video
@@Hatsune-Miku_Fan
Did you know that when you lose one sense, your other senses are heightened?
That explains why your sense of humor is lacking but sense of self importance is strong.
@@sheogorathprinceofmadness2223 no like this video is about sad stories and you commented saying it's funny ur on the wrong video cuz this videos about sad stories and stuff double check the video next time XD
I just watched an hour and a half video about youtubers dying. I don't know why this was on my feed, but you have a great voice and are pretty decent at keeping people engaged.
I'm the same. Same circumstance and sentiments. Mysterious algorithms are afoot! :)
Some channels use AI voices to narrate! Sometimes it’s hard to tell until it makes mistakes that humans would not. Of course this channel is not AI.
Absolutely agree. Great speaking voice, and very polite about serious and sensitive content. You have my subscription.
This dude has been dope for a few years
@@paneon656 You've been dope for a few years.
I knew at least one of these would make me cry. I made it through Will and all the way to the end and then Martyn got me. Thank you for covering these in such a respectful way.
I am currently on what happened to Will Norton and it's heartbreaking. The Joplin tornado was terrifying and the fact that so many people died. Will died the day he celebrated such a huge life achievement, too. Absolutely heartbreaking.
So many of these got to me too! Heartbreaking
i thought i would get through will's story without crying, but as soon as he played the sister's video from 2020 i just started bawling
@@TiffWafflesNo it’s quite funny especially with that I nearly died video LOL Also good riddance to Martyn he was gay anyway.
Same
Discovering this video, randomly, going down the rabbit hole of UA-cam, at 3am... I always got that eerie feeling when I would come across old profiles. While some of these were a bit more known, I happen to come across a lot where they have only 5 - 20 subscribers, obviously from the early UA-cam days. Some are really good music covers, instrument covers, or even grainy looking recorded outings, or video game coverage. You get this feeling of loneliness, or the thought-provoking: "Why have they never returned??" Even if they only had a few videos, some, even just a mere one upload, it still gets you thinking.
Nonetheless, there is sadness in all of these stories. Will Norton's story hit me pretty hard, along with Chloe's; what a sad, sad happening. Glad to hear that he is honored, and not forgotten. What a beautiful soul! So eerie, indeed, of his story about him being in harms way on his way to school, only to be taken away by the biggest Tornado the area has seen since all those years ago. R.I.P. Will
I felt a pit in my stomach seeing yoteslayas name come up. He was fucking huge in the borderlands and Black ops zombies communities. Idk if he was brought up in the video past the intro but he was partying with his step bro and girlfriend or something along those lines and the were all 3 drinking and driving and sadly their vehicle was hit by a train.The only channel in the Borderlands community that really honors his life Morninafterkill
Another channel that should've been mentioned seeing as it was HUGE is Talkingkittycat. SteveCash83 used to make these videos that took heavy inspiration off of the old school N2 talking cat videos and they made a pretty big chunk of yt history. He had a lot of mental health issues and I'm sad I didn't see it nor catch on. Sometime in 2019/2020 his battle against himself took its toll and he took his own life with a bullet to the chest.
It's sad losing these guys and you never think it going to happen until it's too late
The second he mentioned an Ariana Grande concert and Manchester in the same vein, my heart dropped. Didn't even need to see the end to know where it was going.
Same here, I audibly went nooo....
I though "ahh fuck" didn't expect the bit with the tattoo and it genuinely me well up
I've never come across a mention of that bombing in years but when I heard that Martin lost his life in an Ariana Grande concert, somehow my brain still managed to instantly dig up what exact event was being talked about and I frowned accordingly.
That particular story got me in the feels. :(
God I remember that day so vividly. My uncle passed away on the same day, not in the attack, and every time the date rolls around I light a candle. It was just so so heartbreaking.
They're all really sad cases in some form or another. But that Harley one is especially sad to me; because that kid must have been absolutely terrified before he died.
I have a little brother and that one just hits me so hard 😔 ugh
As much as I hate conspiracy theories, I feel like it’s a bit disingenuous to take the police explanation on the matter or at least rule it out as the one definitive truth. I couldn’t for the life of me believe a smart and bright kid like that would put himself in a situation that he probably knew he wouldn’t get out of
@@Quaked4639bro,he wasn't some bright and smart kid,he was an average teenager with a troubled home life
yeah and he knew his deadbeat parents wouldnt even care he was missing
Holy how would his parents feel you guys watch to much true crime please grow an actual heart, and brain. Think more than “it have be parent it always parent.”
Stobe is a legend. We in the railroad community love and mourn him to this day. He was a genuine guy, very knowledgeable and a wonderful person to be around.
I found HobeStobe the very same week he passed away. I had binged every single video that he'd uploaded, caught up in a week, and was excited to see his next video. I was devastated when I learned he'd passed away while I was playing catch-up. He always seemed like such an intelligent and thoughtful person. I had hoped to hear more of his unique perspectives on life and watch more of his adventures... Except I would never see more. He was just gone... I wanted to get back into model railroading. I'm gonna have a tiny little HobeStobe ride the rails, and he'll never have to ride an FNBS hopper... Never ever....
@@richfiles And now hoboshoestring has joined him on the rails of solid gold...
@@PowerTrain611 hopefully they are enjoying their time in the Big Rock Candy Mountain.
you aren’t in the railroad community if you’re applauding him, you’re a railfan commenting on trains. no actual railroad worker likes these people, they’re a liability to the trains and make their jobs worse.
he was a criminal trespassing on railroad property putting himself in danger and paid the ultimate price: what happened to him is why actual railroad workers hate hobos!
The fact that the stars from Coronation St. participated on Martin's funeral was so heartwarming.
My cadaver dog and I worked Search and Rescue in the Joplin tornado, I lived 45 minutes away. It was the worst deployment I’ve had anywhere, state, country. I quit after 13 years. That’s all I’ll say about the horror I found under debris.
Hope you have more good days than bad ones.
Thank you for your service. So sorry you had to go searching for the horror, but I’m sure it still brought families peace to at least have an answer. I hope you’re able to put it behind you ❤️ Jesus bless you and give you peace.
Thank you for your service, my friend. ❤
Thank you for doing that horrible thankless job. I'm sure your courage gave closure to many families who would have been left wondering. I hope you are ok.
Thank you, I know I’m the 5th person to say it but I mean it. I don’t think I’d have it in me to do what you did for work but the fact is someone needs to be there to do it and fortunately good hearted people like you are willing to. Take care
Got Von D ego so huge. "Let me honor Will's memory by drawing a picture... OF ME!"
Ngl it legit made me mad like bffr…….
I hate Kat Von Da nd this just makes me hate her even more. Too bad Will couldn't have looked up to someone better :(
Glad someone else took note of that lmao
And the drawing was also shit too
Of course she would. She's an ego monster.
RIP Will. Terrible events. He seemed like such a good brother. Missouri weather is crazy, I used to live there.
Ya Missouri weather is bipolar. This week for example we had high of 80 and low 20s at night all under 24 hrs
People no joke do not know how crazy it gets here in missouri
Actually it’s quite funny, I wish I could have seen the faces of his family when they heard the news he was dead LOL
@@Mario87456Grow up, stop trying to get attention and troll. You're pathetic.
@@Mario87456 we get it, you're an edgelord.
@@Mario87456 mario would never say this
It's completely wild to me that a high schooler with a historic of mental health struggles could get an actual gun permit.
I don't like to cry, but seeing what Martyn's mom did in response to the disaster and the fact that his stepdad got the tattoo of something that would have meant so much to him has me blubbering like a baby. As soon as you said "Ariana Grande concert" my stomach sank, I hate that such a ray of sunshine was wiped away from us so early.
I felt the exact way you have been discribing. What a horrible coincidence. The moment the concert was mentioned, my heart sank. I thought it was so meaningful too, that the members of the cast of the show have attended his funeral.
I have cried too, I dodnt know about him until this video still it is tragic story both for Martyn and Will Norton.
I've had that sinking feeling twice now in this vid. The mention of Joplin Mo. was the first for me. I knew where he was going with that.
Same. I don't know him, don't know of the show except its name, but his story, especially the outpouring of love, tbe show's stars paying tribute, and both of his parents' responses, still hit hard and I teared up for sure. I had the same reaction too the moment he mentioned Ariana's name, & literally said "oh no" out loud. Poor kid... It's great to see that he left such a great legacy though - between the community he created & the real world good that the law in his name might do to prevent future deaths. ♥️
When I saw the tattoo his dad got for him I started choking up immediately. Oh man.
I'm from Joplin myself and was in Iraq when that tornado hit. Watching the news on AFN and being completely unable to call family was horrifying. It was one of the most stressful parts of that deployment. My heart goes out to Will's family for their loss and everything they had to go through.
@user-wh5ir4fo4rif it helps at all, the vast majority of tornadoes are a non-issue. Not even causing property damage.
@user-wh5ir4fo4r Tornados have freaked me out since I was little. Thought I was getting over it until I watched this video
@@toby1004me too. When I was a kid, I always had nightmares of tornadoes and whenever we got a tornado warning on the news I would try and hide in the basement 😞 the fact that such strong force of nature can rip apart towns, homes and loved ones and there's no way to control it, is so terrifying
I have family in Joplin. My sister was a nurse at the time and we weren't able to get ahold of her while it was happening. Sitting there and watching everything on TV was so horrifying and we were only 2 hours away. I couldnt imagine being in Iraq and going through that as well. I hope everyone was alright after the storm.
I would love to know what your "family" you had with you at the time did?
The people saying HobeStobe would never make such a rookie mistake have to remember that Father Time is undefeated. Although he was young, he had still been doing this thing for 10 years. With repeated action over such a lengthy period, your body starts to slow either from complacency or from wear. You are not as athletic, nimble, or agile at 33 as you were at 23.
Add in all the drinking and the likelihood of not taking proper care of his body, I'm sure his 33 had some extra aging. That's if it wasn't the drinking that caused his mistake.
Yes, you are correct about Father time being non negotiable...... except for Tom Brady! Yes, the photos TB12 had of F.T must be WILD!
I think Stobe knew he was going to die out on the rails. I remember a video he was in with (I think) RanOutOnARail or another young rider. He seemed unusually morose and regretful seeing folks below the age of 20 riding the rails. He had a very realistic outlook on the dangers of railhopping despite his cheeky persona.
@@peperoniebabieBut then why keep doing it? That's what I don't understand. It wasn't like he had to
Also the tune that he played first when he said hobe did his own music scores in his videos, well that was clearly the Beatles, Across The Universe. Maybe he did his own in most of the videos, I don't know. But that first one was the Beatles.
Will Norton seemed like such a great dude, a normal 2000s teen with a lot going for him.
This video came up in my recommended videos & I’m currently recovering from heart surgery I had yesterday in hospital. I’m really enjoying this video even with the sadness from it. You did a very respectable job on this!!!!!!!!
From a new subscriber in Canada, Nancy! 🙂🇨🇦
Wish you a speedy recovery and a long-term happines!
Take all the rest you need. Sleep is a healer.
Wishing you a speedy recovery sending hugs from the UK ❤🫂
Stobe is actually a huge legend in the train hopping and hitchhiking community, I found out when I went around the country and found one of his tags and the dude I was with told me the story, he was such a kind soul and genuinely one of the most down to earth creators I'd came across, truly a shame what happened but I like to think he did go out doing what he loved and has since been turned into a sort of hobo folk hero
As a crusty girl I believe I've heard of him before but my hopping was severely limited by active addiction and now that I'm clean I'm pregnant and stagnant 😭
So I was pretty limited to baltimore and surrounding states. Damn it just hit me I'll probably be too old to do it again by the time I can 😢
@@DumpsterFairy97 you're never too old for the road, just the methods, sure you can't hop on a train with a kid strapped to your back but you can always take a weekend trip just going in one direction you never went before. Hell that's true for everything in life, never too old for anything just maybe need some different methods to make it work and then it's just like the first time you did it since you learn new nuances and strategies. Life is always full of potential never let yours grow stagnant friend! You always have a chance until you're in the ground and onto the next adventure in the cosmos of this beautiful universe we're lucky enough to call home
I became a hopper busker. As an old school UA-camr.....SO I CAN SAY: IF YOU'RE TOO YOUNG TO HAVE NOT LIVED WITHOUT SOCIAL MEDIA, END IT GO TRAVEL, GO GO GO, THE FARCE OF SOCIAL MEDIA WILL BE THERE WHEN YOU'RE TOO OLD TO REGRET NEVER LEAVING YOUR HOME TOWN
I promise i didn't read ur comments before I left mine but remember there's a kids camp at the rainbow gathering!
Martin's story at the end brought me to tears. Love the memorial tattoo his father got.
you know just how to balance the disturbing and light hearted take on these stories. I cant stand channels that sit and joke the whole time, it takes away suspense. Keep up the great work man!
The Will Norton story is really sad because you could tell this guy had a great future ahead of him.
Meh, he should’ve stayed home. What kind of idiots drive through a tornado 🙄
@@cristinauto Sorry if I have a mean tone, but I just want to ask. Did you not pay attention? in the place they lived tornado warnings were a common occurrence and they had survived many times before, so they thought they'd be alright. You shouldn't insult someone's dead relative, that's extremely disrespectful. What if that had been you?
@@cristinautowtf is your problem literal weirdo ew dude.
@@Sergeant_Squid Too much self confidence is what killed him.
@@cristinautothey were going home after his high school graduation.
The Martyn's story still breaks my heart till this day, he was just having fun uploading videos of his favorite show and was just vibing to the concert, its really messed up that something tragic has to happen whenever someone is just enjoying life. :(
Right? I downright cry when I saw his picture dress up as the character he loved so much 😢 I'm glad that at least he had a great time and seemingly had the support of those around him ❤
It’s so sad. The good die young. That’s just the sad truth about life.
Yeah i feel so terrible to what happened to him and it feels so recent even though this was all the way back in 2017 at the ariana grande concert, i remember that being on the news but i never bothered to find out what happened as i wasnt as interested but this video tells me what happened now. Its even worse to find out it came from another muslim who committed a terror attack and took the life of martyn. As a muslim myself, this was a horrible thing to do from that guy and a sweet lovable guy such as martyn was cruelly taken with him along with all those who also died that day. RIP martyn
yeah i'm sniffling over here
@@dl3209They will still blame us for it though.
As soon as you said Joplin and 2011 my heart sank. As a Midwesterner myself tornados are both normal and scary. That one was an absolute monster
Through all the sad and disturbing of these stories, hearing the one about Peter, it was probably the most heartwarming story. It reminded me of my nan and the stories that she would tell us about the war and what she lived through. Will's, Martyn and Harley's stories broke my heart.
True me thats not all of it checked out phantom ghost shooter or the youtuber who fell into a mine or the anime tik tok girl who attacked her boyfriend ...
"He was also a social darwinist" gee i would have never guessed that NaturalSelector89 would be a social darwinist
He lived up to the total depravity of man.
I always find it funny when people call serial k!llings or self deletion caused by bullying "natural selection", when in reality d34th by murd3r couldn't be any more unnatural, and they are just openly admitting to being a bunch of heartless, apathetic tw@s.
That story really gets to me because I was pretty much him. I was bullied pretty much my entire childhood, was put on antidepressants and I eventually had a psychotic break and was placed into a mental ward for my own safety. Once I got off the medication and began doing gym and martial arts my mental state improved almost immediately. To think that I could've ended up much the same as him
He wasn't even a good social Darwinist.
That belief system has an entire different set for what is "better" since the nature of social behavior would weed out people that act antisocial more than anything else (like him)
@@death299 The thing about social darwinism is that it's BS, it was basically Darwin's stupid cousin getting paid by rich cunts to repeat how they were the best by nature. In essence, whenever a social darwinist tries to come up with good behaviours, they just create an idealized vision of themselves. It's toxic to themselves and others, because it makes them hate their own self while also anyone different. Then again, if they all offed themselves, it would be in line with their idea of cleansing society.
When NaturalSelector89's channel description was being read out, you can actually hear Eric Cartman from south park
Lol I said this to myself as I heard him.
I was looking for this
I noticed that too...😬I think it's because of his Finnish accent and he tried to imitate American accent that that hes heard from cartoons 🤔🤔
I’m pretty sure it was intentional
funny but he still was a terrorist
Geriatric1927, I will never forget you. I only learned of you today but you seem like such a sweet man. I wish I could have known you. I would have loved to sit and listen to you tell your stories. Rest peacefully Peter Oakley ❤️
I love this guy. He's always so respectful when needed and funny when appropriate. Keep up the good work. Oh and thanks for making me cry
Will seems like such a cool dude. taken too early. RIP
i was thinking the same thing. such a young kid with his whole life ahead of him...
Reminds me of young Bo Burnham. So sad.
I took the tornado lightly. They should have driven away when the warnings were given. Maybe that is why only Will was taken and his dad survived.
@@sparkdrive2900i think it was mostly just wrong place wrong time. They had no way of knowing what was to come or that they would end up in the center of it, and I believe the tornado was on wills side of the car. Tornado warnings are so common in those places theyre often ignored as its basically the boy who cried wolf, and usually nothing would come of them. But this time it wasnt just a warning, and many people lost their lives or loved ones because of it
Not to mention an F5 tornado - little will save you if that gets dropped on ya. Just tragic@@mrselfdestruct7605
From my understanding (an article I read somewhere a few years ago)..Stobe passed away due to trying to jump OFF a train in a hurry, the strap to his backpack/bag got caught on the train and caused it to go wrong. Alcohol may have been involved slightly but his strap getting caught on the train when he jumped is what caused it…I could be misremembering though.
I'd say alcohol had quite a bit to do with it. In every video he either had alcohol with him or he was drinking it. Not to mention the article where he admitted that being drunk almost got him killed before. Seemed like he was an alcoholic. Very sad story, but I guess at least he died doing what he loved.
Yes, the strap on backpack got caught. He was 30 at the time. Just seen a different video yesterday on him. Whether he was drinking or not...no clue.
From what I read, he jumped off a freight train and then his bag got snagged by an Amtrak train moving on an adjacent line...and you can imagine the rest
There’s an abandoned channel I found that had a shocking reason. I’m from Louisiana and go hiking a lot. A while back I found a channel called Louisiana Hikes where a man named Eric Heber films various trails and what they’re like, sometimes with his adorable daughter and dog. At the time, it showed he hadn’t uploaded in a few months, which isn’t that long, I just assumed it’s been a minute since his last upload. I went to follow him on Instagram and that’s when I discovered he had taken his own life. I was shocked. They have since uploaded a memorial video.
rip :(
@@DripSerpent They literally said they were shocked so obv its shocking to them?? How rude lmfao embarrassing
I used to watch his videos fairly often a couple of years ago. I had no idea. Horrible.
I know this is late but was it ever revealed why he did what he did?
My friend Collin Crane of Batavia,NY passed away in December of 2012. One year before he graduated. Alot of these youtube dates, and cases made me think. I miss my friend so badly.
My heart sank as soon as wavy said Martyn was "preparing for an Arianna Grande concert that was to take place in Manchester". I still can't believe that happened
I legit broke out in goosebumps at that line. Such an awful thing to happen.
Neither can I, it still makes my eyes well up every time. Opening up facebook that morning thinking wtf has happened then seeing people share things around of either news of it and photos/videos from people who were there put up of the chaos and fear along with some photos of clothing that had well things from other people on them. My heart breaks knowing the fact 22 innocent people died even someone as young as 8 all because of some evil person/group.
@@ryandavies-kj2ixIt’s just horrible to think, even all these years later. As someone who loves going to gigs it made me so angry. No-one should ever go to a gig and not come home :(
One of my good friends sisters was injured at the arena. When you aren’t directly from Manchester you don’t assume that anyone you know, or their friends or family could be caught up in it. She had to have surgery on her legs from shrapnel but, thankfully, she wasn’t more seriously injured. Of course we all need to remember those that lost their lives but I think many forget about those that ended up having life-changing injuries from it, and those that will have been scarred psychologically. It’s not just those that were injured but many of the people there must have seen some awful sights, that no one should ever have to see, that night.
@@paolorossi8470 What was staged?
@@CuppycakeWillow What happened in Manchester back then. Learn to do your own research.
As a joplin tornado survivor and youtuber, I get a weird sense of survivors guilt while watching this one
Love your chanel! ❤
Will underestimated nature and paid the ultimate price. I feel compassion for his family but not for him.
Kyle smd bro. You keep making great videos. I didnt expect you here. I watched your latest video, it was also great!
I don't think that's a fair characterization. If they were travelling from a school event, it seems like a Lot of people weren't taking it seriously @@sparkdrive2900
@@sparkdrive2900wow that's sad for you.
You need to reevaluate yourself
Bro... every now and then I try to search up abandoned channels or at least one that are lost to me, this is my favourite ''topic''... AN HOUR AND A HALF BROOOOOOOO
YESSSsssssss
Have you taken your meds today?
@@nightfall1249did you?
@@nightfall1249🤓
yeah buddy!
@@angelicart.6no I skipped today
I grew up in a home similar to Harley’s. I feel for the kid. Just a sad situation the whole way round. Rest up young soul.
>Abandoned Channels With Disturbing Backstories
>Old man dies of old age, famous and beloved
Terrifying. I'm shaking in my boots.
Yeah that one wasn't disturbing, it was actually kinda sweet. It's sad that he passed, but it was kinda inevitable at his age
While it isn't disturbing, it's still nice to know about it
Honestly I appreciated the more heartwarming story in the middle there, it was nice and it is an hour and a half video after all. It gave my heart a bit of a break lmao
@@judahbarracuda_same!! It’s still so very sad he had stage 4 cancer but I agree with the creators comment that we need more oral historians telling their stories in old age. We miss out on so much wisdom as people of his generation pass on - Covid wiped out so many people who lived through and fought in WW2, and so many of our grandfathers just couldn’t talk about it. 💔💔 I’ll definitely be looking for his channel ❤️
Thanks for putting in the more wholesome story of Geriatric1927. It was nice to hear about a old man embracing new online culture and using it to tell his story to newer generations in his final days. A well-needed break from the other tragedies.
I'm always fascinated by the few surviving WWII vets. My great grandfather served in the British Army and was present at the Dunkirk evacuation among other things. Sadly he died long before I was even born, when my dad was a kid in the early 80s.
My dad’s UA-cam channel is abandoned, he passed away in 2018 and his channel’s name is @MyGoingsOn he used to restore vehicles and goes to car shows and video random content. He is missed dearly. 😔
Im so sorry for your loss ...
you could carry that torch on. Thats what I do and I hope my kids carry it on if or when I pass. Trying to make it into something I can pass down.
I’m so sorry for your loss I know it must be tough but at least you have his page to go back to in hard times
*hug* ♥🙏
I remember my youtube idol when I was younger. I used to watch TalkingKittyCat's (SteveCash84) videos, they gave me so much joy.. I found out that April in 2020 or 2021, he had committed s*cide... In his last video, his ending notes were stating how he strugged with bipolar depression.. I remember what I felt that day when I found out. I remember sobbing for about 3 hours, I was just in complete denial... I miss him so much and still can't believe he's gone. What a waste of a wonderful person. Rest in Peace, Steve.
Felt this, I loved Steve, Sylvester and the gang, so sad they're all gone now :((
@@M3TALH3AD_MATTY34 Me too.. I miss them so much..
My favorite video was Sylvester bringing a girl home and then she wouldn’t leave 😂
I remember how much support he got from his fans when he admitted his struggle with bipolar disorder, but the worst enemy can be the one inside your own head.
I remember ...Sylvester the cat ....I felt so sad to hear what happened ...had enjoyed his videos very much and they were entertaining ...missed his videos ...RIP
I knew someone who was in that school in Finland at that time. We met online, and just a couple of months before it happened we met in person on a convention here in Sweden. To this day I remember having a blast with them, basically connecting further because they were Finn, and well... so am I, technically, although a second gen immigrant in Sweden. Then 2 months later, I heard from my mum about what happened, who had heard it from her siblings and read about it on the news. I think it was around 10 days before I heard from the person, to hear they were alive. They hadn't been hurt, but they were traumatised, suffering what I now know would be PTSD symptoms, which makes sense. They never had the same presence online again, and eventually, I lost contact completely because they disappeared off all accounts I knew they had at the time and most of those places have since closed down too. I still think about the entire thing. Not often, but I do.
I hope that person is doing okay these days.
These hit so hard... but in the end, you've gotta celebrate the fact that they were people doing their thing and living life giving you tiny glimpses of what things were like elsewhere from you.
The unpolished days of YT were and still are the best that could have been.
RIP to all these creators.
Well I would say rest in piss to Mr. NaturalSelection or whatever the fuck his dumb name was. Rest in Peace to those that died because of everyone neglecting the signs and his instability
For the thing about a UA-cam channel being deleted “in two years”, it makes me think the kid made it with his school account and then realized that said accounts aren’t permanent. Could be wrong tho.
That's what it was.
According to somebody who claims to be related to them, thats exactly what it was.
Wavy's gotta be one of my favorite UA-cam documentarian/storyteller type creators. A lot of interesting topics, many of which I find myself surprised that I didn't actually know before, and he does a good job of covering them.
The why files along with that chapter are really good as well. I've been a long time subscriber of both since their subscriber count was still in the 4or5 digits range and they keep upping their game like wavy and more so with "The Why Files" and I'm always looking for new content to check out so if you like wavys content I highly suggest them too
Noted.@@TheFearsomeCrabcat
Correction @01:15:20, Brian aka Yoteslaya was NOT driving the car when he died it was his friend Ryan - whose body was found pinned behind the steering wheel. Also it's pronounced 'yotee slayer' - 'yote' is the last part of the word 'coyote'.
God bless Harley's soul, what a terrible way to go and I can only imagine the absolute agony his mother felt and still feels to this day about her baby being suffocated to death In a chimney nearby. I hope his family and friends can find peace 🕊️
Geriatric1927 reminded me of a gentlemen I'd listen too when my Pa was in a retirement home, he'd tell me stories of WW1. He'd always say it's good to have someone to talk too, as no one [here] wanted listened to stories about the war. I was about 8 or 10, and he was in his 80's yet still wore his medal's with much pride. I'll never forget those times .. ..
You could learn alot from oldies like him
@@vexile1239sadly nowadays youtube would censor people like him
@@luizmonad777 ain't that the truth
I thank your grandpa for serving. He's a true hero may he live in the halls of the asire and dine with Oden.
28:59 I’m actually dealing with rehabilitating a torn bicep, myself. He must have been holding onto his son with every ounce of strength he could muster.
Good luck on therapy and your recovery
Thought so too 😪 hope you’re recovering well
The story of Will Norton was absolutely horrifying and heartbreaking. I can't imagine losing a family member like that. :(
The best thing about that NaturalSelector story is that he died thinking he would be a martyr for some big revolution... but he got lost to history and hardly anyone remembers him
It's just a shame he took his victims with him
He's not remembered here, in his country its widely remembered, its their version of the columbine incident
@@GreatRaijin Yeah I'd imagine he would but but still, he wasn't this martyr that kicked off a revolution like he thought he would be
TBH I think he eventually put himself in the group of people he saw as unworthy of life, and just wanted to end his own existence.
@@GreatRaijinit’s not him who’s remembered, it’s the tragedy.
@@zarrg5611The problem is, he claims there's no after life and all this but it's his beliefs and he forcefully took people down WITH him like evil 😞
As someone who grew up and lives with Aspergers/high functioning autism as it's classed now, I kinda recognize myself a bit in Harley Dilly, with some of the fits (but not as violent or troubeling) and how he was upset by plans being changed by his mom. But also I feel his death being an accident is highly likely as if i was in the same situation I might've tried the same
i see myself in harley too :( my parents were similar. i feel horrible for him, im glad he found happiness in his special interest at least.
the weird part of that is that he went through the chimney. Not by dinding an open window or something else. He had to freestyle climb a 2 story house via an antenna pole..walk across an angled roof to a chimney and try to slip down it. Something not possible in most chimneys
Windows likely locked. Doors too. People often vacation and leave homes, so that couldve been the reason too. @@charlesreid9337
It's not classified as 'high functioning autism' FYI, that's exclusively an insulting way to refer to it. Asperger's or autism.
@@ShaCaroI don't know, being someone who lives with it they didn't seem offended when saying it.
I feel so bad for TJ because he actively tried to save those people, including calling the cops on him but nobody listened :(
In the 2000s school shootings weren’t treated as seriously, the war on terrorism was still very much #1 on authorities minds.
@@biazacha Well they aren't treated seriously now considering fuck all is being done about it....
@@bibbobellaYeah, the refusal to put guards on site is largely political. They love using school shootings to fool the naive into giving up their only real defense against the government.
@@biazacha natural selector was in Finland and since they didn't really experience much Islamic terrorism until the mass influx of Muslim after the Syrian Civil War and rise of ISIS they didn't have the same focus on terrorism the US did. They Aldo didn't really have a major history of school shootings so it's a hit understandable that they may not have taken it super seriously. The fact it was a random foreigner calling the cops halfway around the planet based off internet arguments probably didn't help things. TJ being rather arrogant and condescending probably didn't help either.
Also the US still took school shootings pretty seriously after 9/11 especially since they feared terrorist attacks on infrastructure, military installations, and government buildings including schools. I know I had regular active shooter drills all through the 2000s and 9/11 if anything made people more paranoid since terrorists could kill thousands of people on any random morning
@@biazacha They still aren’t. Obviously violent people who are in clear mental distress can still get guns and operate with near unlimited freedom.