Most impressive crash: Auto Union, that was insane, the lotus 79 was insane too first car not to hit the inside wall: bennetton B1994 first car to get flat out without crash: Mclaren MP4-15 (the 1997 williams almost did it, but crashed at the straight) first car to get flat out with over 300 km/h at the exit: 2009 brawn fastest exit: 2020 mercedes all cars after 2000 had enough downforce and mechanical grip to flat out.
One month later I stumbled on this video and noticed the same thing. Even played the video in 0.25 speed because I first thought I was tripping for a bit.
Ah, memories. I was in the stands on track left as JV tried going through it flat. There were cheers as he was flat past where others lifted, then mostly silence as we heard the destruction.
Love how F1 is claiming these new cars are more “environmentally friendly” yet the drivers and teams all fly private not to mention the ridiculous number of diesel trucks needed to transport the team’s garages across Europe and the world. If they want to make the sport more eco friendly then start there and not at the expense of the cars.
@@TXnine7nineI’m not arguing against you, but it’s not to make the sport more eco friendly in my opinion, it’s to develop technology used in cars 10 years down the line.
I was at Brands for the test session when Niki first drove it. I asked him what it handled like over the curbs in the faster parts of the circuit, he replied "Tell Marlena I loved her".
I’m really intrigued by the subtle differences in Gs for the modern cars. Wonder why the BGP001 hit -5.09 lateral Gs at the bottom when the modern cars were around -4
They all can. Eau Rogue is the left hander at the bottom of the hill and Raidillon is the right hander going up the hill. Taking Raidillon flat out is the challenge.
The "old Eau Rouge" in the title had me thinking this would be the original Eau Rouge, which none of them would take flat-out because it was nearly a hairpin.
For anyone wondering, in basic terms; none of these 80s or even the mid 90s cars were able to check 300+ km/h with their setups for Spa with those kinds of accelerations, so our buddy here tries to lenghten the video by changing the setups for these cars by giving them a low downforce setup which basically manipulates the nature of the car's handling in a bad way.
I see why EAU Rouge got changed. There was very little room for error and the turn was really sharp at the end. Some of the newer F1 cars from the '80s and '90s either couldn't take it flat out, or lost control when attempting to do so. Now it is wider with more tarmac for racers to recover from going off track, and the turn is a little bit easier to take with more room for error.
I was surprised that the 97 slick tires failed, but the 2000 car on groves didn't. Even the narrow wing 10 cars could do it. Can you do a drag race or top speed video with different era cars sometime in the future?
This video made me remember about the crazy gambling between Jacques Villeneuve and Ricardo Zonta (BAR's partners) at the end of the 90's, when they tried Eau Rouge and Radillon flat out and crashed!
Interesting video. Although even now it's not always a good idea to take Eau Rouge flat out as it can compromise your speed down the Kemmel straight. Sometimes a slight lift will stop you drifting onto a bad line.
I hope everyone can appreciate from this test that despite crashing hard into the wall, none of the cars sustained any damage. Even the mirrors are still in place. That's safety at its best 👌🏻
Wow…I can’t believe that it actually took 19 tries for some of these vehicles to finally start making it through the Old Eau Rouge, flat out. This one set of turns at Spa must’ve been a real problem child for every 20th century F1 car from each of its respective eras to discipline.
@@lordracer7743 I know, but it was first used for the 1978 Season and won the championship that year. It is not really known for the 1979 season and it wasn't really competitive there
I am a bit puzzled by the physics model (or maybe the setup of the cars?). All those that preceded the first one that made it past it unscathed understeered into the outside of the eau rouge. I'm inclined to think most of them would lose the backend and spin out. But maybe I'm wrong.
@@TC2290-wh5cb of course it does, but an incredibly understeer biased race car is basically an oxymoron. There are already not too many drivers who would prefer a dull front end to a sharp one, let alone drivers who would want a car that will never turn. I've owned (I still have one) 2 AWD cars which are front weight biased and -as all AWD cars- tend to be understeering and I bet if I drove one up that hill it would not do that so badly.
What's your favourite F1 era?
V10 (the goat) 🗿🗿🗿
@@DARK-12345 Absolutely
The 2000,s were the best days of formula one. From exciting total fights to truly dominat cars that decade and even the early 2010,s had it all
2024 is best of all
@@TeamSenkeYou haven't seen the 80s then
That Auto Union crash was some Garry's Mod shenanigans.
I wish Auto union made a comeback in F1 for real.
have you seen those mid century crashes? it was pretty realistic tbh, except the clipping lol
Grosjean
@@purwantiallan5089 they will be coming back in 2026
He's been decapitated. 🐐
Conclusion: All of the can take Eau Rouge flatout.
While the same does not apply for Raidillon.
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Most impressive crash: Auto Union, that was insane, the lotus 79 was insane too
first car not to hit the inside wall: bennetton B1994
first car to get flat out without crash: Mclaren MP4-15 (the 1997 williams almost did it, but crashed at the straight)
first car to get flat out with over 300 km/h at the exit: 2009 brawn
fastest exit: 2020 mercedes
all cars after 2000 had enough downforce and mechanical grip to flat out.
that auto union crash was abseloutely unparalleled XD really shows how far motorsport has come on safety but JESUS CHRIST THAT CRASH WAS BIG
Definitely. Even Super Formula SF23 can do it flat out likewise.
So the MP4-15 did it but boy did it look sketchy
Answer: all of them did. Eau Rouge is the left hand kink at the bottom of the hill. The right-hander, "That's Raidillon actually"
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LMAO that video
What's the left hander after that called?
@@supertornadogun1690technically it should be called the Raidillon chicane as the left hander is part of it
@@Jonathan-mj1oeBro thinks he's the hag from JoJo part 3. Two right hands ahh 💀
Nice touch with the 1999 BAR 😅
1999 BAR HONDA despite got disappointing results, their liveries are amazing btw.🤣
@@purwantiallan5089BAR Supertec in 1999, Honda didn’t come on board until 2000
I love how the BAR had the exact same crash as the real one!
@@purwantiallan5089can’t deny it goes hard as hell
6:14 That sound 😍
Anyone else noticed the W11 DAS system at 7:42
When the driver pulled back on the steering wheel to adjust toe for better straight line speed.
One month later I stumbled on this video and noticed the same thing. Even played the video in 0.25 speed because I first thought I was tripping for a bit.
P.S. We added a couple of pre-1950 cars to have the full evolution of Grand Prix racing!
Good thing you did man, cause it felt nice seeing them back after the wet Eau Rouge video.
It would be nice to have a drag race with these cars
Why not pre 1940s??
3:27 Andretti was like: WTF is just happened?
Bros flabbergasted
2004 is so good. Man, imagine if it had normal slick tyres without the grooves to slow them down.
the fastest car in the history
W11 is so good. Man, imagine if it had no fuel flow limit and weigh 140kg less slowing them down.
With the most powerful sound@@averax9875
@@roku_nineand had traction control
None of these cars are running the prefered lines in correctly attacking the corners
Yes way too much right kurb, some of these cars would have done that right corner
Is just that the 1999 car didnt have enough grip dude
Ah, memories. I was in the stands on track left as JV tried going through it flat. There were cheers as he was flat past where others lifted, then mostly silence as we heard the destruction.
1979 Lotus sent you into the shadow realm 💀
Same also to McLaren MP4/4 and B194 Benetton...😅
He just straightened out the steering wheel. He wanted to crash
V10 cars from 2004 sound so much better than todays cars.
Love how F1 is claiming these new cars are more “environmentally friendly” yet the drivers and teams all fly private not to mention the ridiculous number of diesel trucks needed to transport the team’s garages across Europe and the world. If they want to make the sport more eco friendly then start there and not at the expense of the cars.
@@TXnine7nine Exactly. For me the sound of the engine is important, and i think many people agree on that.
@@TXnine7nineI’m not arguing against you, but it’s not to make the sport more eco friendly in my opinion, it’s to develop technology used in cars 10 years down the line.
Love seeing the evolution of the cars. Great work with this. Those Lotus cars are beautiful.
Thank you!
Very surprising that despite the older Spa layout, the 2010s and 2020s F1 cars still able to take these turns flat out.
RIP Auto Union, shout out to its family
The 1982 Williams ground effect car would have taken the corner flat out of you'd stayed off the curb.
4:21 should’ve have made it but he steered it to the left causing the crash
Yeah does look that way
"It's not from the car. It's from the driver."
I thought the same. Why did he do that. Cause the MP4 was making it😂😂
@@SheikhWasif-p9x that wasnt on purpose
its just oversteer
That Villeneuve crash is one of the best recreation ever
Rip Mario Andretti in this simulation.
Mario Andretti will never be forgotten.
bro crashed then just looked around lol.
Old (and real) 130R should be the next
Earliest one would be the Brabham fan car, based on what it could allegedly do at Brands.
I was at Brands for the test session when Niki first drove it. I asked him what it handled like over the curbs in the faster parts of the circuit, he replied "Tell Marlena I loved her".
Eau rouge is the first left hand kink only. All race cars take that element flat out
"it's radillon actually" 🤓🤓🤓
Yeah because it js
You know most people call both corners eau rouge as a whole, stop being such a piece of work
That means then that most people are wrong.
ua-cam.com/video/aMkLGW0CbIM/v-deo.html
@AMINOMMA most people are wrong then aren't they 😂
Would be better if you took a better line in. Feel like some of them could easily take flat out.
That wieght gain of the cars since the beginning of the 2000s is crazy.
Well yeah cars weren’t around in the year 200
From 2010*
Electronics took over the car....
yeah they are boats now 😂
I like how downforce was suddenly discovered in the 1970
Those wings are magic huh?
I’m really intrigued by the subtle differences in Gs for the modern cars. Wonder why the BGP001 hit -5.09 lateral Gs at the bottom when the modern cars were around -4
Current look sluggish compared to the w11 . That car was just smooth
I enjoy your "what ifs" very much. This is a bit like some things UA-camr GPLaps used to do. Please keep it up.
For the next comparison you should use the 60s version or Spa
They all can.
Eau Rogue is the left hander at the bottom of the hill and Raidillon is the right hander going up the hill.
Taking Raidillon flat out is the challenge.
The "old Eau Rouge" in the title had me thinking this would be the original Eau Rouge, which none of them would take flat-out because it was nearly a hairpin.
I have a new found appreciation for the grip of modern F1 cars. Also I don’t think you could do that with the 2000 macca and not shit your pants irl
Feel like this should be who can take Radillon flatout....
Bro even set rear wing angles accordingly for this video to be long enough to monetize it lmao
For anyone wondering, in basic terms; none of these 80s or even the mid 90s cars were able to check 300+ km/h with their setups for Spa with those kinds of accelerations, so our buddy here tries to lenghten the video by changing the setups for these cars by giving them a low downforce setup which basically manipulates the nature of the car's handling in a bad way.
How I'm gonna lengthen the video by making the cars in it faster? You gotta explain that conspiracy theory to me
That lotus needs some interstellar music for that spin.
It's like watching speedrunners slowly getting better at an specific section of a game.
50's F1 cars ... What can they take flay out?
indy and daytona :joy:
A lot of straight lines 😅
kemmel straight for sure
I see why EAU Rouge got changed. There was very little room for error and the turn was really sharp at the end. Some of the newer F1 cars from the '80s and '90s either couldn't take it flat out, or lost control when attempting to do so. Now it is wider with more tarmac for racers to recover from going off track, and the turn is a little bit easier to take with more room for error.
Lol the DAS ha worked at the 2020 Mercedes
Can't believe even until 1990's, F1 cars still lack of downforce.
Pure overtakes moments, without fear of turbulence slipstream or DRS cheat
The addition of the bar001 is hilarious if you know the history
super cool and informative video
Thank you man!
Thank you man!
Hmm. Since you're doing historic, how about Masta kink?
that a scary corner.
Was anxiously awaiting the Tyrrell P34 six-wheeler lol! 😢
0:06 1927 Delage 1568
0:27 1938 Auto Union D
0:59 1950 Alfa Romeo 158
1:17 1956 Maserati 250F
1:38 1962 Lotus Type 25
1:56 1967 Lotus Type 49
2:13 1970 March 701
2:29 1973 Lotus 72D
2:46 1975 Ferrari 312T
3:04 1979 Lotus 79
3:39 1982 Williams FW09
3:56 1986 Lotus 98T
4:12 1988 McLaren MP4-4
4:28 1990 Ferrari 641
4:45 1992 Williams FW14B
5:00 1994 Benetton B194
5:17 1997 Williams FW19
5:34 1999 BAR 01
6:02 2000 McLaren MP4-15
6:16 2004 Ferrari F2004
6:29 2007 McLaren MP4-22
6:43 2009 Brawn GP001
6:57 2013 Red Bull RB9
7:11 2015 Ferrari SF15-T
7:25 2017 Mercedes-AMG W08
7:39 2020 Mercedes-AMG W11
7:52 2024 Red Bull RB20
'88 McLaren driver error
I was surprised that the 97 slick tires failed, but the 2000 car on groves didn't. Even the narrow wing 10 cars could do it.
Can you do a drag race or top speed video with different era cars sometime in the future?
People assume the grooved tires sucked ass, but they were about as soft as F1 tires have ever been.
This video made me remember about the crazy gambling between Jacques Villeneuve and Ricardo Zonta (BAR's partners) at the end of the 90's, when they tried Eau Rouge and Radillon flat out and crashed!
I love the way that when the car stops the driver starts to turn his head and look around almost as if to say iam I still alive? lol
What year did spa make eau rouge less tight?
I think it was 2002
Well they technically didn’t make it less tight but they removed the inner barrier making it easier to see the top of the corner and take it flat
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 oh fair enough that makes sense thank you
Interesting video. Although even now it's not always a good idea to take Eau Rouge flat out as it can compromise your speed down the Kemmel straight. Sometimes a slight lift will stop you drifting onto a bad line.
why u do the 88’ mclaren like that?
u had it and turned left
It happened cuz of oversteer I guess
@@DAHIKorigamiOversteer from what he was practically going straight lol
@@cefb8923 ha lol
Bro did the Auto Union Dirty 💀
auto union grand prix cars were very difficult to drive, only a few drivers could drive the maximum out of these mid-eniged cars.
@@lordracer7743 but when it was able to be drove, it was insane
That car didnt have grip to take it flat out
6:02 FINALLY
Haven't watched yet but no way any car without down force is going to make it
Agree. I think the modeling is bad.
My car can 😎
The 1999 car almost made it but has no grip
I hope everyone can appreciate from this test that despite crashing hard into the wall, none of the cars sustained any damage. Even the mirrors are still in place. That's safety at its best 👌🏻
Wow…I can’t believe that it actually took 19 tries for some of these vehicles to finally start making it through the Old Eau Rouge, flat out. This one set of turns at Spa must’ve been a real problem child for every 20th century F1 car from each of its respective eras to discipline.
0:54 bro went from flat-out to crash-out
All F1 eras can take Eau Rouge flat out. If you know you know.
3:40 That's a DFV powered, ~500HP FW07.
The Rb20 is the RB19, there’s side pods 7:51
There’s really nothing like the sound of f1 cars in the 2000s.
The crash with 1982 williams is like fidget spinner
After williams 1997 they start to kinda figure it out
4:25 i didnt see that front wing sort of retract right?
Would also help if the driver was hitting his marks properly and using the correct line.. some of these was just him missing the corner.
The Lotus 79 is from 1978, not 1979
The 1982 Williams had around 500 hp, not 900 hp
The 1988 McLaren had around 685 hp, not 800 hp
the Lotus 79 was used in 79 as well.
@@lordracer7743 I know, but it was first used for the 1978 Season and won the championship that year. It is not really known for the 1979 season and it wasn't really competitive there
1920s-1990s: Which car can crash the most dramatically.
this just shows you, how easy it is to die in the old era of f1
Admit it: We were all waiting to see the BAR that inspired this.
Yeahhhh 5.3G’s on the w11 was all I wanted to know. What a beast of a car that was
3:27 "Where am I?"
0:36 Freddie Flintoff is my favourite
The driver of the auto union is tough as hell
I am a bit puzzled by the physics model (or maybe the setup of the cars?). All those that preceded the first one that made it past it unscathed understeered into the outside of the eau rouge.
I'm inclined to think most of them would lose the backend and spin out. But maybe I'm wrong.
Just depends on the balance of the car.
@@TC2290-wh5cb of course it does, but an incredibly understeer biased race car is basically an oxymoron. There are already not too many drivers who would prefer a dull front end to a sharp one, let alone drivers who would want a car that will never turn.
I've owned (I still have one) 2 AWD cars which are front weight biased and -as all AWD cars- tend to be understeering and I bet if I drove one up that hill it would not do that so badly.
You've gone the wrong way about getting the answer. That's a video game. You need to investigate in the real world.
You can get a very good idea by watching old onboards
So.. why did the mp4-4 jerk the wheel to the left..? V:
That crash had '94 Senna - Imola vibes. 😢
I love the design of late 60s and late 80s cars... But v10 engine sound is the best!!
0:39 You see the sky and you see the ground and you see the sky and you see the ground and you don't know exactlywhereyouare
4:20 you did it on purpose
The Auto Union D made as Carrero Blanco
It’s funny the tires just decide to stop turning
Worst crash of Mario's career, so lucky to get away with it
What game you used to make this simulation?? Really nice 👏🏼
Thank you! Assetto Corsa
Would have been nice to see the crashes with a realistic damage model. Nice vid though.
W11 is like: where's the corner
As a huge f1 fan i really appreciate this 👍 good job
But lotus 98t can take it flat out! In quali with maxed out wings and 100% turbo it easily does!
I think the 1978 Brabham Fancar would've been able to do it flat out.
Damn the last red bull. Barely touching the curbs even.
What sim is this recorded in?
All of them, but some of them only once
The Benetton with right tune?
The 1982 Williams is not the 09. It's the 07 from 1979 with 455HP. The 09 has the Honda Turbo from 640HP to 740HP in the Year 1984
What overlay are you using top left?
You couldve definitely take eau rouge with some of the earlier cars, how many attempts did you do for each one?
Game over man, game over
Imaging driving one of those boat helm bike wheel cars full speed...different experience
Lord Moss was doing it until 2020, rest in power
Since 2011 it should be with DRS open as a bonus level