@Deborah Shaw the difference in those two situations was that Rory chose to wait for that long, the Doctor had offered for him to take the short cut as well. Where as Amy was forced to wait, making her think the Doctor had abandon her, causing her to give up on being resued.
@Deborah Shaw I think it's one of the most emotional and beautiful ones... She's 'the girl who waited', after all, and she even named her perfume from that ! (Closing Time)... Don't forget either that she's waited all series 5 to eventually marry herself with Rory... the day after ! (What a nice time-paradox). And Eleven's first 'day of life', she's waited for her 'raggedy Doctor' to come back all her childhood long, and then... two more years ! And after that, she's... waited to live with her own missing daughter River Song, who meanwhile had became older than her (must be weird) !... Eventually, I'm afraid you don't like Pound at all... What a pity ! It's such a beautiful, well made, fairy tale Moffat has created with this character and her life and friends !...
In fairness, I think the Doctor sent Amy and Rory into the TARDIS to keep them safe - he wasn't expecting it to become a death trap. Also, the time he forced his friends to watch him 'die' without intending to ever tell them he was alive should probably be in there lol
That was a bootstrap paradox, the doctor had crossed his own timeline, so he didn't have a choice, he was compelled to keep the events intact. That's the reason the doctor got hella pissed when amy told him she saw him die in front of her (rebel flesh), because from that point on it was fixed. Whole season six was a big bootstrap.
It was a tested reaction. Rose was sent away in the tardis at the end of series 1. In blink Sally and the young man hid in the tardis. At the end of Matt smith time Clara was tricked into the Tardis to send her away from danger.
Not even thinking about the effects of going into the past with Black companions always made me throw my hands up. Martha gets so much hell in Human Nature/Family of Blood and Ten doesn’t acknowledge it at ALL at the end. Ryan gets smacked by a racist and Thirteen doesn’t get angry. At least Twelve decked a racist on Bill’s behalf.
In his defence, he wasn’t the Doctor at this point, he was John Smith with the perception that he was born in a time where racism was natural and accepted.
@@AstraIVagabond I mean just because the Doctor didn’t specifically say sorry on screen to Martha, i think its fair to say that he proved he cares about her from all the episodes that follow
@@johnamos7082 I mean, the "Fam" in general has very low chemistry in general. Seriously, the only one who gets cared about is Bill and she died. At least Martha and Ryan knew when to walk away.
@@christopherbennett5858 and Graham. Ryan and him deserve a spin off where they go around the world stopping alien threats similar to what Sarah Jane adventures was. I wouldn't mind seeing that either
The Tardis was faulty(?) one; from, the repair shop... But, Tardis also did look; after, The Doctor.. By not allowing him to Cross his own time stream & land..
There is a comic series sort of tied to the 50th anniversary that brings Adam back as a bad guy. We also get all of the doctors and a lot of companions.
You forgot The Girl in The Fireplace where he forgets his crush on Rose and spends time flirting with Madame de Pompadour and even is willing to spend a lifetime with her at the end and leaving Rose and Mickey trapped on a broken spaceship in the future
Honestly, I never liked the idea of the Doctor and a Companion having a romantic relationship. It's such a modern idea that you can't have a male and a female character on a show without shoehorning in a romantic aspect. I liked the way the original series handled their relationship where it more like a teacher and a student or even a parent and child (or grandchild). That is a major failing of the modern series that has haunted it ever since. I guess that's why my favorite modern Companion was Donna Noble because she flat out said she had no interest in him like that whatsoever. I know people say she was 'protesting too much' but I took her at face value.
@@LibraGamesUnlimited I don't think it's a 'failing' of the mordern series cause I think it was really well done with rose but I hated everything moffat did with his female characters. Donna does happen to be a favourite in the fandom but Rose is undoubtedly the most popular companion among casual viewers. The Doctor and Rose are also one of the most popular pairings in general
In River’s case, they never meet in the right order. The second time we see her, it’s revealed she is in prison, where we see her in almost every appearance afterwards. Changing that could’ve drastically changed their timeline.
also she doesnt even end up serving the whole term. when Clara erases the Doctor from every database, River says she got let out cause you cant be tried for murdering someone who doesn't exist
I'm still mad at some of the writing for the 13th Doctor. They absolutely botched the first season of her, the storylines were weak and boring. They improved this season but I don't feel they have any clue at all what to do, it's like it's just done at random instead of clues through an entire season like for the 9th. BTW like leaving Jack on a spaceship at random wasn't bad? And then actively running away when he got close?
it wasn’t at random. he left jack cause the doctor knew rose had not just brought him back to life but basically made him immortal. that’s why he ran away from him too. jack became kinda of a big error in time after that. that tardis wasn’t a fan.
@@julieeverett7442 Right, but the dude owns a time machine, if he really wanted to, he could have gone back and picked her up where they left off. Or at least visited her later to explain everything.
Locking Amy & Rory in the Tardis in the "Doctor's Wife" wasn't because he didn't care about them. To contrary he did it to protect them. He realized he fell into a trap that caught several Time Lords before him & worst the Tardis needed to recharge. Also, he didn't know if any of the Time Lords were still alive. Remember Tardis's are practically invincible, so he thought it was the safest place for Amy & Rory, while he figured out how to escape the trap, discover any surviving Time lords, & if there are rescue them. He doesn't realize that House knows how to strip the Tardis's computer & bypass its defenses until it was too late. To put it simply House out smarted the Doctor. Also, I believe the Doctor was trying guide Mickey to make him improve himself. The Doctor probably realized early on that Mickey had potential, but required a more aggressive approach at least at 1st to give him a push. He goes from a lowly mechanic to willing giving up any chance to go home by staying in a parallel universe to help that Earth. Then he returns to help the Doctor stop Daveroso & the Daleks. Also, when we last saw him we see him fighting Sontorans
@@nimblehealer199 I was not a big fan of RTD era, although I considered it bad Who but good television. Chibnall's episodes are bad Who and horrible television ;)
I find some of the writing for those episodes ok but what made her episodes enjoyable has to be the good acting of both Whittaker and the rest of the cast
So glad you had Graham's bit on the list. It's so true. And When Bill is turned into a Cybermen he doesn't get angry with the master at all. When Clara got killed he spent Billions of years in a confession dial
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Mickey: I bet you don't even remember my name? Doctor: It's Ricky Mickey: No it's Mickey Doctor:No its Ricky Mickey: I think i know my own name Doctor: You think you know your own name, how stupid are you? this conversation leads me to believe that when The Tardis eventually lands on the Parrallel Earth the Doctor is only pretending to be surprised as he somehow knows how to get back to Rose's and Mickey's universe, theres that and the fact he calls Mickey Ricky and isn't surprised by seeing Mickey and his alternate self
You gotta be kidding me: 10. Maybe Mickey didn't half deserve the abuse he got, but do you not remember the mess he was in Rose? 9. Have you forgotten the Doctor attempting to take care of Craig, and what the Doctor did for him in Closing Time? 8. He stated that he couldn't interfere with that event. 7. That was just an accident. 6. He talked about Rose a few times in the series, while also stating about how good Martha was. 5. He was just trying to keep them safe. He didn't know House would do what he did to them. 4. Maybe he may have been a bit hard on Adam, but you know the Doctor kicked him out for his bad behaviour (who didn't seem to take much responsibility for it). 3. As you said, the Doctor didn't know what she did until the end of Series 6. Father Octavian also told him that he'd just had River bailed out. With them meeting in the wrong order, the Doctor would've just messed with time if he did so himself. 2. At least Bill didn't stay like that forever. And the Doctor did try to make it up for her. 1. It appears this isn't this kind of video without involving the much hated number 13....
One correction... 7. The doctors lack of punctuality is addressed in “The Doctors Wife” when he confronts Idris/TARDIS saying “you haven’t always been reliable, you don’t always take me where I want to go.” to which she replies “No, but I always took you where you needed to be.” It can be argued that the two year gap was necessary so the doctor would have understood the relevance to the “Basecode of the universe” Oh, and later, in “The name of The Doctor” Clara even tells Hartnell “The navigation system is knackered, but you have a lot more fun!”
This list doesn't even scratch the surface! You could include almost every episode of the first season for how The First Doctor treats Ian and Barbara, for instance. The Second Doctor was pretty devious and played his companions like pawns quite a lot. The Third Doctor was prone to negging. The Fouth Doctor treated Harry Sullivan (most underrated companion) similarly to how Ten treated Mickey. The Sixth Doctor struggled to give a hoot about anyone but himself. I'm still playing catchup on the other Doctors but you could easily get more lists out of this topic.
To be fair, Adric. We all like to complain about Adric, but he was out of his element, indeed, out of his universe and struggling. All he got was grief and ridicule until he died. He was a kid thrown constantly into life and death concerns! How would you respond?!?!?
To be fair, i feel like most of these are just the doctor not realizing he's being ignorant. With Amy, he doesn't purposefully leave for 2 years, and even has trouble with the tardis timing in future seasons. With the possessed tardis, he is trying to protect them because he didn't know what was going to happen.
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Abandoning Jack and his condescending judgments and treatments should be on this list But I agree completely with number 1! (And the rest of this list.... except for Adam)
Exactly. Abandoning Jack is worst than abandoning Adam. Especially since in the extended canon Adam become an ally of The Master after his mom dies from shock soon after his return from The Long Game with his screwed up head.
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The Doctor probably already knows what SHOULD happen to most of his companions - he knew, many, many years in advance that the Brigadier would die quietly in bed ('Battlefield'), yet was still upset when it happened (that phonecall in 'The Wedding Of River Song'. I'm not crying, you are.), and the possibility of knowing that Adric's calculations would send the Cyber controlled freighter back in time, to impact (fairly) harmlessly on Earth, which is possibly why he wouldn't try to take the boy home. Sometimes, they wrong foot him, like Amy, or Tegan, or Jo, but I'm pretty sure The Doctor has an idea of what happens to them, unless outside forces intervene - Peri, for example, or his first meeting with Mel. There, only the Valeyard has the answer.
i really liked the doctors wife for one simple reason. rory yelling at amy about leaving him and then all the crazy angry scribbles on the walls. was kinda cathartic, not gonna lie
Actually he didn’t want them to age so fast that he had to bury them after a year of travelling. He’d rather have breaks from them for years knowing they’d still be alive when he comes back
@@johnamos7082 yeah, but in the episode when they are out side the universe, he sent them back to the TARDIS and it was cursed but he didn’t know that he wanted to kept them safe
@@scarlettkipling1890 exactly! he sent them there becuasr he thought they would be safe and had no idea what would happen certainly not for this list in fact a few shouldnt be x
When you said "Amy waiting 2 more years" I was thinking about the time he left them on Earth (granted it was to save them since he had almost lost Amy earlier in the episode "The God Complex"), only to come back 2 years later to a surprised Amy and Rory(in the(following?) Christmas special "The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe"). And he finds out that they've been setting out a place for him at the table EVERY Christmas since he left. Depending on when he dropped them off, that's 2-3 years of holding out hope for him to come back and really shows the impact the Doctor had on their lives. That's fucked up. The explanation of the TARDIS being out of sorts and causing him to jump further ahead than expected/intended makes sense because it was a genuine Doctor mistake. He didn't intentionally hurt her.
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To be honest, up until nuWho, the Doctor has always treated his companions, be they human or otherwise, as if they were the help. He didn't see a difference between you or "the tin dog." He was the smartest man (now woman) in the room, and needed someone to explain the plot, I mean the information, to.
harsh but fairly accurate, the classic era doctors ,especially 4th could be kind, but you did get reminded, quite bluntly at times that they were NOT human, and not bound by human mores, the human romance crap is a new who thing!
The girl who waited! Literally left amy on a planet where she aged to become a old woman and went a bit mad. The promised to save her only to once again stab her in the back
To be fair, the episode where the doctor leaves Amy, he didn't mean to go back in 2 years. Like he said, it was just a quick travel to the moon and back. Also, I get the doctor treating Rose better than Martha. It was too early for him. He was in love with Rose, and he thought he'd never see her again. Also, yes, the doctor IS socially awkward. Sometimes they don't know how to handle certain situations. Don't blame the Doctor. edit: Not a hate comment. Just pointing out pieces of information that I know.
I wonder about the alternate universe that's out there where Martha was a companion for 1 and a half seasons, with half a season overlapping with either her sister or Donna. Donna was good for pulling 10 out of his mopiness, and it would've been good for Martha to not only get to travel with the Doctor who's no longer constantly pining for Rose, but also good for her to maybe get an actual character that doesn't revolve around being in love with him when he's in love with someone else.
When the Doctor makes Clara choose between the earth or the moon he does it because decided it wasn't the doctors place to make choices for humanity because he was an alien and that sometimes its not him that should make the hard decisions,it was a lesson to teach Clara that what he does isn't always the best choice but it's the choice he believes is right
One problem with that buddy: why was it not the Doctor’s place THIS time? He was sure to make the choice many times before, hell, you could argue the same thing about the Beast Below, the Silence’s invasion, the Great Intelligence, etc.. It’s not his place to save the earth or even choose for humans, but he does it anyway, why? Because he is the Doctor, he does what people dare not do, even if it’s not in his place to do so. And no, you can not argue that it was a test for Clara, because the Doctor does not make tests with his companions, as the name says, they are his companions, not his test subjects. They are there to stop him from making the wrong things, not to choose the right thing for him.
I thought in “The Timelord’s Wife” he sent Amy and Rory back to the TARDIS because he knew something was amiss and mistakenly believed that would be the one place they’d be safest.
10 dick moves from classic Who: 1)1st Doctor sabotaged his own Tardis to force his companions to let him explore the Dalek city, risking all their lives. 2)4th Doctor arbitrarily dumps Sarah Jane in the wrong location. 3)5th Doctor straight up kills Kamelion. 4)Mel suddenly leaves the 7th Doctor. It is revealed in later novels that he brainwashed her into leaving so he could take on Ace. 5)1st Doctor locks Susan out of the Tardis to make her stay with David. A later novel reveals the obvious problem that she won’t age like David does and the relationship was doomed. 6)In Kinda, 5th Doctor ignores Tegan’s fears that the Mara might still be inside her, until the Mara resurfaces in Snakedance. 7)Similarly 2nd Doctor fails to consider Victoria might still have residual Great Intelligence control within her, which cones to a head in the special Downtime. 8)6th Doctor trues to murder Peri. 9)3rd Doctor returns from the blue and steals Liz Shaw’s job as scientific advisor to UNIT. She slinks away to PROBE after 4 storylines. 10)Through his entire tenure with UNIT the Doctor admittedly is only using UNIT for his own ends, shirks his responsibilities whenever he can, and tries to leave in his Tardis at every opportunity.
Mickey is truly an underappreciated character man he's awesome, I love Mickey and his arc is great. Every time he shows up (after the first episode goofiness) he's just fun to have on hand and he becomes quite a badass by the end which is also great. And he's really got more depth than i think people give him credit for.
I think he's literally the only person in the show that took seriously the danger involved with The Doctor before choosing the go with him. On paper it all seems fun but holy hell A LOT of people die or worse around him
What about the fact he dumped Sarah Jane Smith back on Earth, supposedly back at home in Croydon but getting it drastically wrong and leaving her in Aberdeen and pretty much forgetting about her, not mentioning her until he bumps into her 30 years later!
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In regards to River. Her prison sentence was a fixed point in her timeline and previous episodes establish he can't really rewrite fixed points without major consequences
I was also sadly someone who had cancer and when I saw that episode I was a little excited to see what Jodie's doctor was going to say. And when she said nothing I was extremely mad so much that I swore at the TV. I mean at least a hug or something short like you beat it once you can do it again
@@blueeyestuber8673 that's true but you would think after who knows exactly how long the doctor has lived they would understand how serious cancer is to humans but I guess the writers themselves would find it difficult as it's very touchy subject that in fact the whole episode was
In Angels Take Manhattan River admits she was “pardoned ages ago” since the Doctor was deleted from several databases in the universes and didn’t exist.
😂 I don’t know if I could call what happens to River “imprisonment” 🤣 I am pretty sure she had going and coming as she pleased down to a science, and that is without the lipstick!
I personally like 13, I agree that she could have done so much better with comforting Grayham but you have to take into account that its not just a Time Lords body that changes, their personality does as well. They are still the same person with the same beliefs, thoughts and values but their personality does change. Its mentioned multiple times in the new series.
I would have to forgive 13 a bit for not being able to handle someone fearing cancer. As a timelord, we're never given the impression that they even understand what it would be like to have a withering disease like that. To know that your body is slowly killing itself and that there won't be a regeneration on the other side. For someone who would only have an outsider's perspective on something like that, it would be hard to even begin to understand that kind of situation.
In "The Doctor's Wife" he sensed something was wrong and sent Amy and Rory back to the TARDIS for their own safety, not realizing the danger that would emerge... he just wasn't very tactful about it. In "The Long Game", Adam had it coming; The Doctor spelled out the rules for traveling with him, Adam deliberately flaunted them, so The Doctor administered the consequence. As for River Song, it's complicated... there's that whole back-to-front timeline thing with "fixed points in space-time", and there's the fact that she was essentially programmed to kill The Doctor, and actually made the attempt, more than once, so well... consequences, and making it seem like she succeeded even going so far as her being locked up for it was necessary to keep the Silence from trying again; but then, since her cell seemed a relatively safe and comfortable place and she could pretty much come and go at will, it wasn't really so bad, was it?
I’ve only just thought that maybe 13 was a bit awkward with comforting a male companion because they’ve spent so long as a male that they’re not used to being open with how they feel either. Not going to be defending that part too much though because we all know it was terrible.
Honestly, I've been in a similar situation, and I know what it's like. However, we can't forget that this list is meant to include ways the Doctor unintentionally hurt people - and not comforting Graham at all, not even with as little as a hug, would hurt.
Okay-- some good choices for Modern Who-- but nevermind 12 years, I think it was a lot more when it came to the dilemma of two Amys and the Doctor asking Rory to make a choice (let alone even more years in between if I remember correctly) . . . and how about wiping Donna's memory of her adventures against her wishes?
…and in defence of the two Amys, the older one was an anachronism, as they rescued original Amy, so older Amy should not exist…. Besides, one Amy was bad enough.
I hated the 13th doctor being as cold as she is. I know it’s all “SeXiSt’ to say this, but I was hoping for a bit of a motherly side to the doctor, maybe she would be better at empathising, comforting and be very protective of her companions as well as feeling pride in their accomplishments without much jealousy. It could be great to see but also could be a good dynamic to how she treats villains which could end up with her being in greater harm or danger by how she would approach them
Althogh saying Graham would be as bad a Zim is a stretch since the Doctor's other companions (Rose, Donna, Amy and even Jackie) have killed beings and gotten away Scott Free.
To say that the 13th should be motherly and better in comforting just because she is female is in fact sexist. But i do think she should be a little nicer because the other Doctor where nicer to
@@zakapholiac9377 God do you live in the 50s. Your Mindset for sure does. Also its still the same Time lord to think now its a Woman now they suddenly be motherly is stupid and quite sexist (I feel sorry for the horrible Men you seem to know and where raised by)
Spot on with number 1, that was the worst and out of character even for the Doctor. This is what I’d have written: *doctor stares at Graham wide eyed for a moment then lowers her gaze and sighs.* Doctor: oh Graham, I wish I could tell you that but I can’t, it’s against the laws of time travel and I’m still a time lord after all. All I can say is that you should live your life and deal with it if it happens. *laughs softly and places a hand on Graham’s shoulder*. And if you do get Ill, I’ll get you to the best Bloody doctors in the universe! *graham chuckles* Doctor: Lets get a shift on! Where to now...?
"Hey, robot Rory. You just stand here watching this small area of land for the next two millennia. Oh, and don't change your clothes, ever. I'm off. Toodles!"
@@MedievalFolkDance there was quite a bit of objection. Rory wanted to stay and the doctor tried to talk him out of it. In the end rory suceeded in convincing the doctor to let him stay by way of saying "tell me that she wouldnt be safer if i stayed." The doctor being unable to deny it won rory the argument.
Right before the line about taking the stabilizers off your bike, I got an ad about Rebel Wilson giving some guy a bike for Christmas. So much of this just smacks of bad writing and people not thinking things through or doing it because they thought it would be funny but not realizing it was just mean spirited.
Poor Erimem. Only heard Nekromanteia once and I’m interested in hearing it again, just to hear if it’s as bad as I remember. I think Davison sorted it out though and made sure the author has never written for Big Finish again!
Have to re-watch what led to it in "Kill The Moon" but he made them choose because it was their earth, their moon and would affect them. Can't really blame the scared guy shooting Bill on Missy.
Watching series 3 again recently, I liked Martha way more than I did on my first rewatch and hated the Doctor being a dick to her even more. She deserved so much better.
13 doesn't even exist... Twelve didn't regenerate, and she (JW) isn't, never was and never will be The Doctor !... Even the 'Ruth Doctor' in series 12, was more credible in fifteen minutes than JW ! A pity that she's useless... As everything is, since that catastrofic ending
@@philippebernard4577 if they really had to do their whole woke "we must have a female doctor" then really they should have saved Missy for the part. As the Master she kicked the shit out of that part. She was a very believable Master.
Yeah, being a alien time traveler is complicated and The Doctors need to work on how to not do cold-hearted alien things. Even Jodie Whittaker is guilty about it.
I would like to point out that the doctor could not have gotten River out of prison. At the point that he learned why she was in prison, he had already encountered her in the prison. Therefore he could not have possibly stopped it because that would change his own personal timeline, causing the frozen time thing that happened during the ending of Matt’s second season
I think most of the Doctors have at times exploited and hurt their companions from William Hartnell electrocuting Ian and threatening to throw Ian and Barbara off the Tardis. Also The sixth doctor always abusing Peri. Probably the worse was The 7th Doctor always manipulating Ace.
Counter Argument. He didn't actually leave her, he was in disguise waiting to see if the villain would reveal his plan. Ofc, she didn't know that. 12's treatment of Clara was generally coarse. Which could be attributed to him just being a bit cold this regeneration, or it could have been his way of, well, letting her grow up. Taking the kid gloves off, or Taking "the stabilizers off {her} bike." You could say it was cruel, or patronizing, which it certainly was. On the other hand, he IS the Doctor. She is a child compared to him. Clara and Rose, I feel, were the companions who most forgot who and what the doctor was.
@@thomasbedient9191 The fact that he's the Doctor is exactly why he SHOULDN'T have treated Clara so badly. What the hell happened to "Never cruel or cowardly"? Capaldi threw that out of the window without a care in the world in Season 8, to the point where I didn't consider him the Doctor at all until Season 9. They should have brought back Michael Jayston because I'm sure the Valeyard would be proud to have Season 8 Capaldi in his regeneration cycle. He certainly had the Valeyard's habit of gaslighting and projecting his own shittiness onto others honed to a fine art.
in defense of the doctor, he just lost Rose who he had a huge deep connection with and loved. Along comes Marth, brilliant and all but she fell for the Doctor right away and wanted more than just friendship for sure. The Doctor wasn't ready for anything more than a companion/friend (Thus we get Donna later on) So all the stuff about Rose coming up etc if Anything it was more jealousy and her feelings that made her feel infier to Rose because she wanted the Doctor to relay the same feelings she had for him back to her, which wasn't going to happen because he was still work through his loss of Rose. (best example is when they meet jack again and she states very jealously and kind of snarky "Oh she was blonde?" ) I think their relationship would have been better if she had been there for him as a friend not as someone who was in love with him. but thats not how it went, so thus I don't really fault the Doctor at all there.
@@sweet_bowl_of_cheese6646 i still think she's a good character and that it made sense for the story. it was interesting to see their dynamic, with her crushing on him and him trying to avoid it. she's still great
@@scantopup2226 Adam's not a Companion anyway - just a schlub who had a ride in the TARDIS and appeared in two stories. He's no more a Companion than Courtney Wood was.
I wished he showed a bit more regret about loosing his companions. Like he spend days referencing rose, but when donna left, we don't see him struggling at all with the loss, and she was basically his best friend! In the end he just erase her memories, and idk, an scene to show that he searched for a cure (even if it's bound to never work) would have been nice. Take away the pain of loosing Donna, if the doctor doesn't care that much. The same goes for Sarah Jane as he abandonned her without hesitation
my main problem is that he is almost never prepared enough for anything. The sonic is the only tool he uses and time and time again he suffers because of that. No way to call the Tardis to his location (loses it constantly) nothing to protect his companions like a personal shield or even medical equipment (companions are at the total mercy of others and mostly luck out of getting shot) and the most basic one is the fact that he never gives a way for this companions of communicate with him, is it that hard to have a radio or something? Sorry Iv been watching most of the show for the first time recently (just started season 11) and this has been on my mind a lot.
Yeah he got all the tech avaible that was ever made and will ever be made. A simple laser saw or whatever would really help with his constant wood problem etc if he was actually smart about his equipment it would be way more boring... Also sometimes he can call the Tardis to his location but he only uses it sometimes (for example time of the doctor he calls the tardis down to the planet)
Lukas Timberwolf I do agree that if he was properly prepared it would get boring (like Rick and morty without the humour). If he can call in the Tardis then why are there so many times he loses it and goes “welp. That’s it for me”
3:00 He does this because he cares. It's a bloody stupid way of showing it but that still makes it unworthy of this list. 7:45 He doesn't put her through this. Remember that they met backwards. from the first time the doctor sees river her imprisonment is set in stone - he can't change that. Why risk all of time and space to prevent an imprisonment that doesn't even bother her and she herself seems to not want changed?
Let's be honest, Jodi Whittaker's Doctor is easily one of the poorest written Doctors of the franchise. Not the actor's fault, of course, since the writers decided to use her incarnation of the character to effectively obliterate the entire mythos, but she is easily the least-liked Doctor of the franchise. She pretends to love life and humanity, yet is completely scatterbrained, almost completely ambivalent to her companions despite her whole 'fam' bit, and actually isn't very smart. Let's compare her Doctor to Matt Smith's. Matt Smith's Doctor was also very scatterbrained, but it was easy to see this was because he had so much knowledge and information rebounding around his head that different thoughts and ideas were constantly fighting for attention from him. At the same time, it was beyond clear he was brilliant and a genius because he would actually work problems out while running away from danger. What's more important, he CARED about people, so much so that when Amy was kidnapped he showcased a truly frightening part of himself that was all the more scary because of how rare it was to see the Doctor truly enraged while at the same time showing very effectively how much he truly loves his friends. Essentially, the writers tried to make Jodi Whittaker's Doctor Matt Smith light and failed miserably, probably because they plan on making her some kind of angsty, repentant character now that she's found out she's the progenitor of the Time Lord race (*cough* BULLSH!T) and will find out that she had been a Time Lord assassin who had a Come to Jesus moment and chose to wipe away all of her memories up to the point she regenerated into William Hartnell. To use a British quote here: The writers of Doctor Who have lost the plot.
For river i feel it’s necessary, she’s on record as the women who kills the doctor. And since the doctor at the time is believed to be dead, it wouldn’t make sense if his “killer” was walking around free without punishment. But that’s just my thoughts.
Abandoning jack. Forcing Rory to kill older Amy Not taking any responsibility for what he did to ashealdr Constantly being a dick with Danny. Yes Danny wasn't really a companion, but if my freinds treated someone Ioved like that I'd also assume that they had very little respect for me too.
There’s a brilliant example of this in Big Finish for the Eighth Doctor in the audio Absolution (even though that story isn’t amazing outside of the closing moment where (SPOILERS ) the Doctor fails to console a companion after another companion has died, confirming that he cares much more for the tardis than any companion).
I really wished we could've gotten more of some of the lesser traveled companions, their friendships were so much more satisfying than constant in out relationships.
You forgot the time Jodie Whittaker left her 3 companions in a falling plane to die. That should be no. 1 position. After getting the Master's TARDIS, instead of immediately flying back to save them, she takes her 2 new female companions and goes about other business. Even after she met them again, she completely forgot that they were in danger until reminded about it and then had to come up with that complicated rescue plan so to not create a paradox.
River says she was pardoned for the killing after the dr gets “too big” after the pandorica and goes out and starts erasing his name from the universe. Can’t kill someone who never was.
Honesty I don’t think the Doctor can be blamed for 2. It wasn’t his fault Bill died it was just a very tragic unfortunate adventure, another time and place she might have been fine
Amy being made to wait!?!
What about Forcing Rory to kill one version of Amy, and abandoning her *to die* in the Twin Streams resort!
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@Deborah Shaw the difference in those two situations was that Rory chose to wait for that long, the Doctor had offered for him to take the short cut as well. Where as Amy was forced to wait, making her think the Doctor had abandon her, causing her to give up on being resued.
@Scorched Earth Thirty-six years, but I agree with the rest.
@Deborah Shaw I think it's one of the most emotional and beautiful ones... She's 'the girl who waited', after all, and she even named her perfume from that ! (Closing Time)...
Don't forget either that she's waited all series 5 to eventually marry herself with Rory... the day after ! (What a nice time-paradox). And Eleven's first 'day of life', she's waited for her 'raggedy Doctor' to come back all her childhood long, and then... two more years !
And after that, she's... waited to live with her own missing daughter River Song, who meanwhile had became older than her (must be weird) !...
Eventually, I'm afraid you don't like Pound at all... What a pity ! It's such a beautiful, well made, fairy tale Moffat has created with this character and her life and friends !...
@Scorched Earth Two (2) years !?!... Are you sure you've watched the episode with your glasses on, not to see the age gap between Amy 1 and Amy 2 ?!?
In fairness, I think the Doctor sent Amy and Rory into the TARDIS to keep them safe - he wasn't expecting it to become a death trap. Also, the time he forced his friends to watch him 'die' without intending to ever tell them he was alive should probably be in there lol
That was a bootstrap paradox, the doctor had crossed his own timeline, so he didn't have a choice, he was compelled to keep the events intact. That's the reason the doctor got hella pissed when amy told him she saw him die in front of her (rebel flesh), because from that point on it was fixed. Whole season six was a big bootstrap.
It was a tested reaction. Rose was sent away in the tardis at the end of series 1. In blink Sally and the young man hid in the tardis. At the end of Matt smith time Clara was tricked into the Tardis to send her away from danger.
Not even thinking about the effects of going into the past with Black companions always made me throw my hands up. Martha gets so much hell in Human Nature/Family of Blood and Ten doesn’t acknowledge it at ALL at the end. Ryan gets smacked by a racist and Thirteen doesn’t get angry. At least Twelve decked a racist on Bill’s behalf.
In his defence, he wasn’t the Doctor at this point, he was John Smith with the perception that he was born in a time where racism was natural and accepted.
@@johnamos7082 The criticism isn't about that; it's that the Doctor didn't appear to care.
@@AstraIVagabond I mean just because the Doctor didn’t specifically say sorry on screen to Martha, i think its fair to say that he proved he cares about her from all the episodes that follow
@@johnamos7082 I mean, the "Fam" in general has very low chemistry in general.
Seriously, the only one who gets cared about is Bill and she died. At least Martha and Ryan knew when to walk away.
@@christopherbennett5858 and Graham. Ryan and him deserve a spin off where they go around the world stopping alien threats similar to what Sarah Jane adventures was. I wouldn't mind seeing that either
Have we forgotten about kidnapping 2 school teachers and not getting them home for ages?
That's because he didn't know how to pilot the Tardis.
The Tardis was faulty(?) one; from, the repair shop...
But, Tardis also did look; after, The Doctor.. By not allowing him to Cross his own time stream & land..
Plus, He liked flying around with the E-brake On... 😂😂
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@@kosh9639 so what you're saying is that the First Doctor was nothing but nice and caring towards his companions to begin with?
Classic Who. This is about the reboot. But sure, I agree with you there.
To be honest I kind of think Adam kind of deserved it
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He did.
There is a comic series sort of tied to the 50th anniversary that brings Adam back as a bad guy. We also get all of the doctors and a lot of companions.
100%
Coming soon: 10 Reasons Adam Is A Little Bitch
You forgot The Girl in The Fireplace where he forgets his crush on Rose and spends time flirting with Madame de Pompadour and even is willing to spend a lifetime with her at the end and leaving Rose and Mickey trapped on a broken spaceship in the future
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he was so fucking caught up with the way she idolised him cause of his vanity, I hated it
FINALLY someone said it that episode annoys me so much for that reason
Honestly, I never liked the idea of the Doctor and a Companion having a romantic relationship. It's such a modern idea that you can't have a male and a female character on a show without shoehorning in a romantic aspect. I liked the way the original series handled their relationship where it more like a teacher and a student or even a parent and child (or grandchild).
That is a major failing of the modern series that has haunted it ever since. I guess that's why my favorite modern Companion was Donna Noble because she flat out said she had no interest in him like that whatsoever. I know people say she was 'protesting too much' but I took her at face value.
@@LibraGamesUnlimited I don't think it's a 'failing' of the mordern series cause I think it was really well done with rose but I hated everything moffat did with his female characters. Donna does happen to be a favourite in the fandom but Rose is undoubtedly the most popular companion among casual viewers. The Doctor and Rose are also one of the most popular pairings in general
In River’s case, they never meet in the right order. The second time we see her, it’s revealed she is in prison, where we see her in almost every appearance afterwards. Changing that could’ve drastically changed their timeline.
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I was looking for this comment and write it if no one had mentionned it. You earn a medal.
also she doesnt even end up serving the whole term. when Clara erases the Doctor from every database, River says she got let out cause you cant be tried for murdering someone who doesn't exist
And at this point he doesn't know who she is said to have killed
And you can't forget that The Doctor offered her a spot on the TARDIS after Amy and Rory's departure and she rejected it.
Dammit, doctor. "Always try to be nice, but never fail to be kind" graham could have used just a hug.
Chibnall is just doing the exact opposite of Twelve's last speech. He is a mass destruction son of a b...
I hope he's gone soon..
Davros is a wise man enjoyed his conversation with the doctor
I'm still mad at some of the writing for the 13th Doctor. They absolutely botched the first season of her, the storylines were weak and boring. They improved this season but I don't feel they have any clue at all what to do, it's like it's just done at random instead of clues through an entire season like for the 9th.
BTW like leaving Jack on a spaceship at random wasn't bad? And then actively running away when he got close?
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it wasn’t at random. he left jack cause the doctor knew rose had not just brought him back to life but basically made him immortal. that’s why he ran away from him too. jack became kinda of a big error in time after that. that tardis wasn’t a fan.
It wasn’t random to the doctor but it was to Jack. He wakes up like...where is everyone.
He left Sarah Jane for 30 years!
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he dropped Sarah homes because humans were forbidden on Gallifrey and HE had to go home
@@amaan9662 if you edited that video, please.
stop.
Even worse he left her in Aberdeen
@@julieeverett7442 Right, but the dude owns a time machine, if he really wanted to, he could have gone back and picked her up where they left off. Or at least visited her later to explain everything.
Locking Amy & Rory in the Tardis in the "Doctor's Wife" wasn't because he didn't care about them. To contrary he did it to protect them. He realized he fell into a trap that caught several Time Lords before him & worst the Tardis needed to recharge. Also, he didn't know if any of the Time Lords were still alive. Remember Tardis's are practically invincible, so he thought it was the safest place for Amy & Rory, while he figured out how to escape the trap, discover any surviving Time lords, & if there are rescue them. He doesn't realize that House knows how to strip the Tardis's computer & bypass its defenses until it was too late. To put it simply House out smarted the Doctor.
Also, I believe the Doctor was trying guide Mickey to make him improve himself. The Doctor probably realized early on that Mickey had potential, but required a more aggressive approach at least at 1st to give him a push. He goes from a lowly mechanic to willing giving up any chance to go home by staying in a parallel universe to help that Earth. Then he returns to help the Doctor stop Daveroso & the Daleks. Also, when we last saw him we see him fighting Sontorans
To be fair to Jodie. She is a victim of really bad writing.
Brian Smith that’s true
Not just bad, the worst in the long history of this show.
@@jadominek7116 over 50 years and the franchise had THE WORST writing in its history.
@@nimblehealer199 I was not a big fan of RTD era, although I considered it bad Who but good television. Chibnall's episodes are bad Who and horrible television ;)
I find some of the writing for those episodes ok but what made her episodes enjoyable has to be the good acting of both Whittaker and the rest of the cast
So glad you had Graham's bit on the list. It's so true.
And When Bill is turned into a Cybermen he doesn't get angry with the master at all.
When Clara got killed he spent Billions of years in a confession dial
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It is extremely important. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
Mickey: I bet you don't even remember my name?
Doctor: It's Ricky
Mickey: No it's Mickey
Doctor:No its Ricky
Mickey: I think i know my own name
Doctor: You think you know your own name, how stupid are you?
this conversation leads me to believe that when The Tardis eventually lands on the Parrallel Earth the Doctor is only pretending to be surprised as he somehow knows how to get back to Rose's and Mickey's universe, theres that and the fact he calls Mickey Ricky and isn't surprised by seeing Mickey and his alternate self
You gotta be kidding me:
10. Maybe Mickey didn't half deserve the abuse he got, but do you not remember the mess he was in Rose?
9. Have you forgotten the Doctor attempting to take care of Craig, and what the Doctor did for him in Closing Time?
8. He stated that he couldn't interfere with that event.
7. That was just an accident.
6. He talked about Rose a few times in the series, while also stating about how good Martha was.
5. He was just trying to keep them safe. He didn't know House would do what he did to them.
4. Maybe he may have been a bit hard on Adam, but you know the Doctor kicked him out for his bad behaviour (who didn't seem to take much responsibility for it).
3. As you said, the Doctor didn't know what she did until the end of Series 6. Father Octavian also told him that he'd just had River bailed out. With them meeting in the wrong order, the Doctor would've just messed with time if he did so himself.
2. At least Bill didn't stay like that forever. And the Doctor did try to make it up for her.
1. It appears this isn't this kind of video without involving the much hated number 13....
One correction...
7. The doctors lack of punctuality is addressed in “The Doctors Wife” when he confronts Idris/TARDIS saying “you haven’t always been reliable, you don’t always take me where I want to go.” to which she replies “No, but I always took you where you needed to be.” It can be argued that the two year gap was necessary so the doctor would have understood the relevance to the “Basecode of the universe” Oh, and later, in “The name of The Doctor” Clara even tells Hartnell “The navigation system is knackered, but you have a lot more fun!”
Yes, I know that. I meant he accidentally just was away longer than he expected and he didn't even know it
> 1. It appears this isn't this kind of video without involving the much hated number 13....
So do you have an actual counterargument or not?
@@xGOKOPx Regrettably, no.
Umm if the doctor let river out that would have completly changed both of there time lines ans they would never have been at the crash of the bianteum
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This list doesn't even scratch the surface! You could include almost every episode of the first season for how The First Doctor treats Ian and Barbara, for instance. The Second Doctor was pretty devious and played his companions like pawns quite a lot. The Third Doctor was prone to negging. The Fouth Doctor treated Harry Sullivan (most underrated companion) similarly to how Ten treated Mickey. The Sixth Doctor struggled to give a hoot about anyone but himself. I'm still playing catchup on the other Doctors but you could easily get more lists out of this topic.
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Along with that whole strangling Peri thing...
To be fair, Adric. We all like to complain about Adric, but he was out of his element, indeed, out of his universe and struggling. All he got was grief and ridicule until he died. He was a kid thrown constantly into life and death concerns! How would you respond?!?!?
You think the second Doctor treats his companions like pawns, wait till you see 7...
@@chrisandersen5635 Yeah, he was, what, 14? Him dying was messed up.
To be fair, i feel like most of these are just the doctor not realizing he's being ignorant. With Amy, he doesn't purposefully leave for 2 years, and even has trouble with the tardis timing in future seasons. With the possessed tardis, he is trying to protect them because he didn't know what was going to happen.
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It is extremely important. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
Abandoning Jack and his condescending judgments and treatments should be on this list
But I agree completely with number 1! (And the rest of this list.... except for Adam)
Exactly. Abandoning Jack is worst than abandoning Adam. Especially since in the extended canon Adam become an ally of The Master after his mom dies from shock soon after his return from The Long Game with his screwed up head.
At least Jack didnt seek revenge on the doctor
@@TheHufflepuffSaint I too am a fan of DAVIS
Steven Hale wow, only a minute ago
At least jack got his own show
Let's face it. If this included Classic Who, the Sixth Doctor's treatment of Peri would be high on here.
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It is extremely important. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
The Doctor probably already knows what SHOULD happen to most of his companions - he knew, many, many years in advance that the Brigadier would die quietly in bed ('Battlefield'), yet was still upset when it happened (that phonecall in 'The Wedding Of River Song'. I'm not crying, you are.), and the possibility of knowing that Adric's calculations would send the Cyber controlled freighter back in time, to impact (fairly) harmlessly on Earth, which is possibly why he wouldn't try to take the boy home. Sometimes, they wrong foot him, like Amy, or Tegan, or Jo, but I'm pretty sure The Doctor has an idea of what happens to them, unless outside forces intervene - Peri, for example, or his first meeting with Mel. There, only the Valeyard has the answer.
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i really liked the doctors wife for one simple reason. rory yelling at amy about leaving him and then all the crazy angry scribbles on the walls. was kinda cathartic, not gonna lie
With the Amy and Rory in the TARDIS he wanted to keep his companions safe, he didn’t know it was cursed
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Actually he didn’t want them to age so fast that he had to bury them after a year of travelling. He’d rather have breaks from them for years knowing they’d still be alive when he comes back
@@johnamos7082 yeah, but in the episode when they are out side the universe, he sent them back to the TARDIS and it was cursed but he didn’t know that he wanted to kept them safe
@@scarlettkipling1890 exactly! he sent them there becuasr he thought they would be safe and had no idea what would happen certainly not for this list in fact a few shouldnt be x
@@jesssmith6004 true
3:44 I shouldn't admit that jump-scared me!
Yeah same also made me jump.
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When you said "Amy waiting 2 more years" I was thinking about the time he left them on Earth (granted it was to save them since he had almost lost Amy earlier in the episode "The God Complex"), only to come back 2 years later to a surprised Amy and Rory(in the(following?) Christmas special "The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe"). And he finds out that they've been setting out a place for him at the table EVERY Christmas since he left. Depending on when he dropped them off, that's 2-3 years of holding out hope for him to come back and really shows the impact the Doctor had on their lives. That's fucked up. The explanation of the TARDIS being out of sorts and causing him to jump further ahead than expected/intended makes sense because it was a genuine Doctor mistake. He didn't intentionally hurt her.
Please read at least three books of the Bible. The first book of each testament and one you chose yourself. As you do practice forgiveness. It is extremely important. The Bible is truth. Jesus Christ is Lord.
To be honest, up until nuWho, the Doctor has always treated his companions, be they human or otherwise, as if they were the help. He didn't see a difference between you or "the tin dog." He was the smartest man (now woman) in the room, and needed someone to explain the plot, I mean the information, to.
Considering the Chateau episode, that attitude is still there.
harsh but fairly accurate, the classic era doctors ,especially 4th could be kind, but you did get reminded, quite bluntly at times that they were NOT human, and not bound by human mores, the human romance crap is a new who thing!
The girl who waited! Literally left amy on a planet where she aged to become a old woman and went a bit mad. The promised to save her only to once again stab her in the back
To be fair, the episode where the doctor leaves Amy, he didn't mean to go back in 2 years. Like he said, it was just a quick travel to the moon and back. Also, I get the doctor treating Rose better than Martha. It was too early for him. He was in love with Rose, and he thought he'd never see her again. Also, yes, the doctor IS socially awkward. Sometimes they don't know how to handle certain situations. Don't blame the Doctor.
edit: Not a hate comment. Just pointing out pieces of information that I know.
I wonder about the alternate universe that's out there where Martha was a companion for 1 and a half seasons, with half a season overlapping with either her sister or Donna. Donna was good for pulling 10 out of his mopiness, and it would've been good for Martha to not only get to travel with the Doctor who's no longer constantly pining for Rose, but also good for her to maybe get an actual character that doesn't revolve around being in love with him when he's in love with someone else.
It’s ok to mention that Adam comic where he teamed up with the master you know
When the Doctor makes Clara choose between the earth or the moon he does it because decided it wasn't the doctors place to make choices for humanity because he was an alien and that sometimes its not him that should make the hard decisions,it was a lesson to teach Clara that what he does isn't always the best choice but it's the choice he believes is right
One problem with that buddy: why was it not the Doctor’s place THIS time? He was sure to make the choice many times before, hell, you could argue the same thing about the Beast Below, the Silence’s invasion, the Great Intelligence, etc.. It’s not his place to save the earth or even choose for humans, but he does it anyway, why? Because he is the Doctor, he does what people dare not do, even if it’s not in his place to do so.
And no, you can not argue that it was a test for Clara, because the Doctor does not make tests with his companions, as the name says, they are his companions, not his test subjects. They are there to stop him from making the wrong things, not to choose the right thing for him.
I thought in “The Timelord’s Wife” he sent Amy and Rory back to the TARDIS because he knew something was amiss and mistakenly believed that would be the one place they’d be safest.
10 dick moves from classic Who:
1)1st Doctor sabotaged his own Tardis to force his companions to let him explore the Dalek city, risking all their lives.
2)4th Doctor arbitrarily dumps Sarah Jane in the wrong location.
3)5th Doctor straight up kills Kamelion.
4)Mel suddenly leaves the 7th Doctor. It is revealed in later novels that he brainwashed her into leaving so he could take on Ace.
5)1st Doctor locks Susan out of the Tardis to make her stay with David. A later novel reveals the obvious problem that she won’t age like David does and the relationship was doomed.
6)In Kinda, 5th Doctor ignores Tegan’s fears that the Mara might still be inside her, until the Mara resurfaces in Snakedance.
7)Similarly 2nd Doctor fails to consider Victoria might still have residual Great Intelligence control within her, which cones to a head in the special Downtime.
8)6th Doctor trues to murder Peri.
9)3rd Doctor returns from the blue and steals Liz Shaw’s job as scientific advisor to UNIT. She slinks away to PROBE after 4 storylines.
10)Through his entire tenure with UNIT the Doctor admittedly is only using UNIT for his own ends, shirks his responsibilities whenever he can, and tries to leave in his Tardis at every opportunity.
Mickey is truly an underappreciated character man he's awesome, I love Mickey and his arc is great. Every time he shows up (after the first episode goofiness) he's just fun to have on hand and he becomes quite a badass by the end which is also great. And he's really got more depth than i think people give him credit for.
I think he's literally the only person in the show that took seriously the danger involved with The Doctor before choosing the go with him. On paper it all seems fun but holy hell A LOT of people die or worse around him
What about the fact he dumped Sarah Jane Smith back on Earth, supposedly back at home in Croydon but getting it drastically wrong and leaving her in Aberdeen and pretty much forgetting about her, not mentioning her until he bumps into her 30 years later!
Except he saw her again in 5 doctors. And gave her K9 as a gift in K9 and company. With a letter saying “I will remember you, always.”
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In regards to River. Her prison sentence was a fixed point in her timeline and previous episodes establish he can't really rewrite fixed points without major consequences
I was also sadly someone who had cancer and when I saw that episode I was a little excited to see what Jodie's doctor was going to say. And when she said nothing I was extremely mad so much that I swore at the TV. I mean at least a hug or something short like you beat it once you can do it again
Keep in mind the doctor is a time lord and has no clue how a disease like cancer would affect you but yea she could have still been more sympathetic
@@blueeyestuber8673 that's true but you would think after who knows exactly how long the doctor has lived they would understand how serious cancer is to humans but I guess the writers themselves would find it difficult as it's very touchy subject that in fact the whole episode was
@@blueeyestuber8673 Doesn't help by this point in the season this doctor has been repressing her emotions more than usual.
I think one of the worst things is when he left the Old Amy to die in the resort.
In Angels Take Manhattan River admits she was “pardoned ages ago” since the Doctor was deleted from several databases in the universes and didn’t exist.
😂 I don’t know if I could call what happens to River “imprisonment” 🤣 I am pretty sure she had going and coming as she pleased down to a science, and that is without the lipstick!
I really wished Craig was an actual companion
7 in the Curse of Fenric should’ve been number one
You could make a list of just 7 an Ace.
@@SuperFunkmachine Which sucks because people generally like Ace. At least Big Finish had her finally stand up to him and walk away.
@@christopherbennett5858 She did that in the VNA's too.
Ahh yes... Martha. When the Doctor should have learnt to never mention their exes.
Still feel sorry for her whenever I watch her episodes.
Mickey tried to warn him in Class Reunion, but then things turned out ok and he didn't learn the lesson.
I personally like 13, I agree that she could have done so much better with comforting Grayham but you have to take into account that its not just a Time Lords body that changes, their personality does as well. They are still the same person with the same beliefs, thoughts and values but their personality does change. Its mentioned multiple times in the new series.
I would have to forgive 13 a bit for not being able to handle someone fearing cancer. As a timelord, we're never given the impression that they even understand what it would be like to have a withering disease like that. To know that your body is slowly killing itself and that there won't be a regeneration on the other side. For someone who would only have an outsider's perspective on something like that, it would be hard to even begin to understand that kind of situation.
a good portion of perfectly normal perfectly kind humans wouldnt be able to react to that situation any better than she did
In "The Doctor's Wife" he sensed something was wrong and sent Amy and Rory back to the TARDIS for their own safety, not realizing the danger that would emerge... he just wasn't very tactful about it. In "The Long Game", Adam had it coming; The Doctor spelled out the rules for traveling with him, Adam deliberately flaunted them, so The Doctor administered the consequence. As for River Song, it's complicated... there's that whole back-to-front timeline thing with "fixed points in space-time", and there's the fact that she was essentially programmed to kill The Doctor, and actually made the attempt, more than once, so well... consequences, and making it seem like she succeeded even going so far as her being locked up for it was necessary to keep the Silence from trying again; but then, since her cell seemed a relatively safe and comfortable place and she could pretty much come and go at will, it wasn't really so bad, was it?
In River's case, considering how often she escaped, the jail cell was closer to a free hotel room.
I’ve only just thought that maybe 13 was a bit awkward with comforting a male companion because they’ve spent so long as a male that they’re not used to being open with how they feel either.
Not going to be defending that part too much though because we all know it was terrible.
This is a list about the doctor treating their companions bad and no mention of 6 trying to strangle Peri?
To be fair he had no control over that
The Graham one shouldn’t be on this list. That wasn’t the Doctor not caring, that was the Doctor not finding the words to say.
Tot agree. I get angry when they say she was wrong. People think cos they can handle something you should. I would not know what to say either.
Honestly, I've been in a similar situation, and I know what it's like. However, we can't forget that this list is meant to include ways the Doctor unintentionally hurt people - and not comforting Graham at all, not even with as little as a hug, would hurt.
@@wolfywonder8480 She didn't unintentionally hurt Graham though. In the episode he thanks her for her honesty.
Okay-- some good choices for Modern Who-- but nevermind 12 years, I think it was a lot more when it came to the dilemma of two Amys and the Doctor asking Rory to make a choice (let alone even more years in between if I remember correctly) . . . and how about wiping Donna's memory of her adventures against her wishes?
In defense of the Donna mindwipe, it was either that or watch her brain melt and then die in front of him.
…and in defence of the two Amys, the older one was an anachronism, as they rescued original Amy, so older Amy should not exist…. Besides, one Amy was bad enough.
To be fair, nine told Mickey he wasnt welcome on the Tardis because Rose says she doesnt want Mickey to come.
I hated the 13th doctor being as cold as she is. I know it’s all “SeXiSt’ to say this, but I was hoping for a bit of a motherly side to the doctor, maybe she would be better at empathising, comforting and be very protective of her companions as well as feeling pride in their accomplishments without much jealousy. It could be great to see but also could be a good dynamic to how she treats villains which could end up with her being in greater harm or danger by how she would approach them
I agree, it was cold. However, sometimes she doesn't know how to handle certain situations. I can't blame her for that.
Althogh saying Graham would be as bad a Zim is a stretch since the Doctor's other companions (Rose, Donna, Amy and even Jackie) have killed beings and gotten away Scott Free.
To say that the 13th should be motherly and better in comforting just because she is female is in fact sexist. But i do think she should be a little nicer because the other Doctor where nicer to
@@lunaris5054 you don’t think women are better at being nurturing? Feel sorry the women you hang out with lol
@@zakapholiac9377 God do you live in the 50s. Your Mindset for sure does. Also its still the same Time lord to think now its a Woman now they suddenly be motherly is stupid and quite sexist (I feel sorry for the horrible Men you seem to know and where raised by)
Spot on with number 1, that was the worst and out of character even for the Doctor. This is what I’d have written:
*doctor stares at Graham wide eyed for a moment then lowers her gaze and sighs.*
Doctor: oh Graham, I wish I could tell you that but I can’t, it’s against the laws of time travel and I’m still a time lord after all. All I can say is that you should live your life and deal with it if it happens. *laughs softly and places a hand on Graham’s shoulder*. And if you do get Ill, I’ll get you to the best Bloody doctors in the universe!
*graham chuckles*
Doctor: Lets get a shift on! Where to now...?
"Hey, robot Rory. You just stand here watching this small area of land for the next two millennia. Oh, and don't change your clothes, ever. I'm off. Toodles!"
I mean Rory literally offers to stay, it’s his idea
@@remus5759With zero objection from an immortal that has a time machine.
@@MedievalFolkDance there was quite a bit of objection. Rory wanted to stay and the doctor tried to talk him out of it. In the end rory suceeded in convincing the doctor to let him stay by way of saying "tell me that she wouldnt be safer if i stayed." The doctor being unable to deny it won rory the argument.
Right before the line about taking the stabilizers off your bike, I got an ad about Rebel Wilson giving some guy a bike for Christmas.
So much of this just smacks of bad writing and people not thinking things through or doing it because they thought it would be funny but not realizing it was just mean spirited.
Once again, there’s lack of Classic Who on here. Also you guys think this is bad, you need to listen to the Big Finish story, Nekromanteia...
Listened to it, not even half as bad as the people say :)
They said at the start modern who
Poor Erimem. Only heard Nekromanteia once and I’m interested in hearing it again, just to hear if it’s as bad as I remember. I think Davison sorted it out though and made sure the author has never written for Big Finish again!
@@JordanShortman People once told me it's impossible for him to make sure that kind of thing. But if so, I'd lose all the respect to mr Davison :(
Have to re-watch what led to it in "Kill The Moon" but he made them choose because it was their earth, their moon and would affect them.
Can't really blame the scared guy shooting Bill on Missy.
Watching series 3 again recently, I liked Martha way more than I did on my first rewatch and hated the Doctor being a dick to her even more. She deserved so much better.
He liked her and respected her just not the way she liked him
That 13 one pissed me off, the doctor wouldn’t do that
13 doesn't even exist... Twelve didn't regenerate, and she (JW) isn't, never was and never will be The Doctor !... Even the 'Ruth Doctor' in series 12, was more credible in fifteen minutes than JW ! A pity that she's useless... As everything is, since that catastrofic ending
@@philippebernard4577 Honestly, the Ruth Doctor was what I was hoping 13th would be... or Doctor Who's Janeway.
@@philippebernard4577 if they really had to do their whole woke "we must have a female doctor" then really they should have saved Missy for the part. As the Master she kicked the shit out of that part. She was a very believable Master.
The Tardis is faulty and often takes the Doctor to the wrong places, and the wrong times. So the case with little Amy is probably not his fault.
Yeah, being a alien time traveler is complicated and The Doctors need to work on how to not do cold-hearted alien things. Even Jodie Whittaker is guilty about it.
I would like to point out that the doctor could not have gotten River out of prison. At the point that he learned why she was in prison, he had already encountered her in the prison. Therefore he could not have possibly stopped it because that would change his own personal timeline, causing the frozen time thing that happened during the ending of Matt’s second season
I think most of the Doctors have at times exploited and hurt their companions from William Hartnell electrocuting Ian and threatening to throw Ian and Barbara off the Tardis.
Also The sixth doctor always abusing Peri.
Probably the worse was The 7th Doctor always manipulating Ace.
season 8, deep breath: abandoning Clara in a room full of homicidal robots, where she had to hold her breath.
Counter Argument. He didn't actually leave her, he was in disguise waiting to see if the villain would reveal his plan. Ofc, she didn't know that.
12's treatment of Clara was generally coarse. Which could be attributed to him just being a bit cold this regeneration, or it could have been his way of, well, letting her grow up. Taking the kid gloves off, or Taking "the stabilizers off {her} bike."
You could say it was cruel, or patronizing, which it certainly was. On the other hand, he IS the Doctor. She is a child compared to him. Clara and Rose, I feel, were the companions who most forgot who and what the doctor was.
@@thomasbedient9191 The fact that he's the Doctor is exactly why he SHOULDN'T have treated Clara so badly. What the hell happened to "Never cruel or cowardly"? Capaldi threw that out of the window without a care in the world in Season 8, to the point where I didn't consider him the Doctor at all until Season 9. They should have brought back Michael Jayston because I'm sure the Valeyard would be proud to have Season 8 Capaldi in his regeneration cycle. He certainly had the Valeyard's habit of gaslighting and projecting his own shittiness onto others honed to a fine art.
in defense of the doctor, he just lost Rose who he had a huge deep connection with and loved. Along comes Marth, brilliant and all but she fell for the Doctor right away and wanted more than just friendship for sure. The Doctor wasn't ready for anything more than a companion/friend (Thus we get Donna later on) So all the stuff about Rose coming up etc if Anything it was more jealousy and her feelings that made her feel infier to Rose because she wanted the Doctor to relay the same feelings she had for him back to her, which wasn't going to happen because he was still work through his loss of Rose. (best example is when they meet jack again and she states very jealously and kind of snarky "Oh she was blonde?" ) I think their relationship would have been better if she had been there for him as a friend not as someone who was in love with him. but thats not how it went, so thus I don't really fault the Doctor at all there.
I agree I think that they had a good character for martha but then they had to ruin her by making her fall in love with the doctor
@@sweet_bowl_of_cheese6646 i still think she's a good character and that it made sense for the story. it was interesting to see their dynamic, with her crushing on him and him trying to avoid it. she's still great
adam, who's adam there is no adam. I know nothing
if you're not joking, adam was the guy in the s1 episode 'dalek' and travelled with eccleston in the episode 'the long game'
@@timelordrohan9425 I remember him, I choose not to acknowledge him
@@scantopup2226 just like what I choose to do with 'Kill The Moon'...
We all know that Adams departure was the saddest in all of who c’mon now
@@scantopup2226 Adam's not a Companion anyway - just a schlub who had a ride in the TARDIS and appeared in two stories. He's no more a Companion than Courtney Wood was.
Number 0: "The Ultimate Time Lord Fashion Accessory"
Can some explain why no one remembers miracle day from torchwood .
So pretty much the 11th Doctor era and that time where 6 left Peri behind
If I remember rightly, Six got yanked out of that situation and into his trial before he could do anything about it.
So if there's no Classic Who examples does that mean the Classic Doctor's are superior in caring about people 👀👀👀
Yes see Adric, an Ace...
@@SuperFunkmachine I know,just taking the mick out of whoculture. They're so new who orientated
I wished he showed a bit more regret about loosing his companions. Like he spend days referencing rose, but when donna left, we don't see him struggling at all with the loss, and she was basically his best friend! In the end he just erase her memories, and idk, an scene to show that he searched for a cure (even if it's bound to never work) would have been nice. Take away the pain of loosing Donna, if the doctor doesn't care that much.
The same goes for Sarah Jane as he abandonned her without hesitation
In the Doctor's defense about River, attempted murder is still a crime.
I think Micky could have his own series set in the parallel universe
The title of this video made me laugh so hard!!! I appreciate your top 10s!!!
What about when the doctor psychology abused ace?
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i really didn't think he was being a dick to craiggg
he was just chillin
neurodivergent struggles
my main problem is that he is almost never prepared enough for anything. The sonic is the only tool he uses and time and time again he suffers because of that. No way to call the Tardis to his location (loses it constantly) nothing to protect his companions like a personal shield or even medical equipment (companions are at the total mercy of others and mostly luck out of getting shot) and the most basic one is the fact that he never gives a way for this companions of communicate with him, is it that hard to have a radio or something?
Sorry Iv been watching most of the show for the first time recently (just started season 11) and this has been on my mind a lot.
He had a radio...then he took it apart to make a clockwork squirrel.
Yeah he got all the tech avaible that was ever made and will ever be made. A simple laser saw or whatever would really help with his constant wood problem etc if he was actually smart about his equipment it would be way more boring...
Also sometimes he can call the Tardis to his location but he only uses it sometimes (for example time of the doctor he calls the tardis down to the planet)
Lukas Timberwolf I do agree that if he was properly prepared it would get boring (like Rick and morty without the humour). If he can call in the Tardis then why are there so many times he loses it and goes “welp. That’s it for me”
This is should a good comment thread-- idk; if, I want to ruin this, with Spoilers... xD
Leaving Jack to deal with the events of Children of Earth alone
"Thirteen got this badly wrong"
Huh, kinda a pattern there..
"Goodbye Clara, miss you"
😥
I was never expecting that cameo it has to be said. 😭
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He does this because he cares.
It's a bloody stupid way of showing it but that still makes it unworthy of this list.
7:45
He doesn't put her through this.
Remember that they met backwards. from the first time the doctor sees river her imprisonment is set in stone - he can't change that. Why risk all of time and space to prevent an imprisonment that doesn't even bother her and she herself seems to not want changed?
Let's be honest, Jodi Whittaker's Doctor is easily one of the poorest written Doctors of the franchise. Not the actor's fault, of course, since the writers decided to use her incarnation of the character to effectively obliterate the entire mythos, but she is easily the least-liked Doctor of the franchise. She pretends to love life and humanity, yet is completely scatterbrained, almost completely ambivalent to her companions despite her whole 'fam' bit, and actually isn't very smart. Let's compare her Doctor to Matt Smith's. Matt Smith's Doctor was also very scatterbrained, but it was easy to see this was because he had so much knowledge and information rebounding around his head that different thoughts and ideas were constantly fighting for attention from him. At the same time, it was beyond clear he was brilliant and a genius because he would actually work problems out while running away from danger. What's more important, he CARED about people, so much so that when Amy was kidnapped he showcased a truly frightening part of himself that was all the more scary because of how rare it was to see the Doctor truly enraged while at the same time showing very effectively how much he truly loves his friends. Essentially, the writers tried to make Jodi Whittaker's Doctor Matt Smith light and failed miserably, probably because they plan on making her some kind of angsty, repentant character now that she's found out she's the progenitor of the Time Lord race (*cough* BULLSH!T) and will find out that she had been a Time Lord assassin who had a Come to Jesus moment and chose to wipe away all of her memories up to the point she regenerated into William Hartnell.
To use a British quote here: The writers of Doctor Who have lost the plot.
Micky was great he grew from a idiot to a hero
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He also left Jack on that one planet, leaving him alone for like 200 years because "he just looked wrong". Like, what the hell, man?
The river one isn’t fair because she doesn’t care and he breaks her out all the time.
For river i feel it’s necessary, she’s on record as the women who kills the doctor. And since the doctor at the time is believed to be dead, it wouldn’t make sense if his “killer” was walking around free without punishment. But that’s just my thoughts.
Abandoning jack.
Forcing Rory to kill older Amy
Not taking any responsibility for what he did to ashealdr
Constantly being a dick with Danny. Yes Danny wasn't really a companion, but if my freinds treated someone Ioved like that I'd also assume that they had very little respect for me too.
3:44 why did that actually jumpscare me?
I have to admit in the second Doctor Who series the Doctor was a dick to Mickey at first at Mickey wasn't a bad guy.
Where is adric
Oh he ´´wouldn’t want us to mourn him’’
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or 6 and peri?
neptune04 WE ALL KNOW THE FATE OF ALIEN SPYS
I think that last one was more of a critique on chibnall's writing
There’s a brilliant example of this in Big Finish for the Eighth Doctor in the audio Absolution (even though that story isn’t amazing outside of the closing moment where (SPOILERS ) the Doctor fails to console a companion after another companion has died, confirming that he cares much more for the tardis than any companion).
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Adam comes back in a comic story (called _Prisoners of Time)_ and tries to kill the Doctor.
I really wished we could've gotten more of some of the lesser traveled companions, their friendships were so much more satisfying than constant in out relationships.
It really pissed me off that he let River go to prison
You forgot the time Jodie Whittaker left her 3 companions in a falling plane to die. That should be no. 1 position. After getting the Master's TARDIS, instead of immediately flying back to save them, she takes her 2 new female companions and goes about other business. Even after she met them again, she completely forgot that they were in danger until reminded about it and then had to come up with that complicated rescue plan so to not create a paradox.
10 facts about the Doctor strangling peri please
River says she was pardoned for the killing after the dr gets “too big” after the pandorica and goes out and starts erasing his name from the universe. Can’t kill someone who never was.
I can't believe jack didn't make it in this list!
Honesty I don’t think the Doctor can be blamed for 2. It wasn’t his fault Bill died it was just a very tragic unfortunate adventure, another time and place she might have been fine