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My Top Ten Tips For Starting A Retinoid | Dr Sam Bunting
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Retinoid Struggle - It’s clear this is ‘a thing’. Nearly 200 of you in our Facebook group reacted to our post about retinoids and their naughty challenges. So I thought that this week I’d do a very practical video showing you my very own personal coping strategies for when the going gets tough.
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Disclaimer: The content seen in this video is provided only for medical educational purposes and is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Please seek professional help individually if you suffer from any dermatological condition. Due to the volume of patients seen in the clinic, and to the unique nature of skin, Dr Bunting is unable to respond to every query on these videos.
1. Moisturize before retinol
2. Don't let retinoid collect in skin folds
3. Moisturizer goggles (around eyes)
4. 5 to 10 min break
5. Protect the lips
6. Start slow and use small amount initially
7. Consider the format carefully
8. Firm massage
9. Moisturizer Duvet (2nd layer moisturizer)
10. Give 2 weeks to decide if retinoid suits you/do you need to escalate/do you need to stop
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Thanks a lot Zoya....... learned morefrom your post than watch the video.
Moisturizer before or after retinol??
Lucille Soriano before and after
Dr. Sam: * *breathes* *
Me: 📝
Vic Vega hahahha
lol
lolll you are so cute i cant. 😂
haha
I wish my dermatologist had taken the time to either explain this, or literally refer to this video online. This saved my skin, thank you!
I love dermatologist started making skincare videos.. It's like going a trip to dermatologist office without waiting and free of cost lol
Agreed 👍
I appreciate the reminder to thoroughly rub in the retinoid.
I turn 30 tomorrow and starting my first retinoid tonight. Thanks for giving me the confidence to use it right! Thanks Doc.
Is this a good price for Retin-A?? www.ebay.ca/itm/373019325674
Hey, how are you doing it with so far? I heard there’s a period of purging. Have your experienced any?
Hi. Any purging??? How's your experience so far?
How are you now, after three years?
Absolutely wear sunscreen the next morning AND reapply... for the rest of your life!
sounds like a pain in the ass, sunscreen breaks me out
blisterpacman it becomes second nature when you realize the damage that the sun causes in the long run. Is it a particular ingredient that’s breaking you out or all sunscreen break you out?
@@quilosunflower I don't know I use the one that says it doesn't cause breakouts. It's just it makes me look like a ghost
My skin looks disgusting no matter what sunscreen I use and thinking of reapplying it without cleansing my skin before grosses me out
@@avtr5185 me too, and good sunscreens are expensive afffffff.
Would LOVE to see the advanced tips on how to apply to eye area, neck and backs of hands. Thank you so much!!
YES! Exactly my thoughts!!
Was about to ask the same thing!
did she ever make that video?
@@jazzyc1894 not sure, I think she briefly mentioned "treat the skin different" in a video but nothing specific.
Yes!!!
The best instruction how to use the product I've seen so far. Thank you very much.
Happy to help!! X
@@DrSamBunting Hi Doctor!
Can I use tretinoin 0.025 on my nostrils to get rid of blackheads? If yes, then for how long should I keep it, before washing off??
The Cerave skin renewing night cream in the tub is a great buffer for beginners because it is a thick moisturizer. The PM moisturizer with the pump is awesome too & they both have niacinamide. Fantastic & affordable
I've watched this video once this afternoon and will watch it again tonight as I'm applying my first retinoid! Thank you thank you thank you!
oh thats why!!! my skin is so dryyy after using retinoids/retinol these past few month..i should moisturize first
A very intelligent approach. I wish doctors would have provided this kind of information 25 years ago when I first tried Retin A. I live in a dry climate and without conscientious maintenance my skin is always dehydrated and often feels like it is falling off in winter. Knowing that I could have used a moisture sandwich when using a retinoid would have helped greatly. I gave up on it as my skin felt like it was drying up so badly. Ironically, I have used retinols for years with no problem, but I always added a layer of moisture over them. My dermatologist years ago suggested doing the same with a retinoid would make it ineffective. So much for that notion. I am thinking of trying tretinoin again so I am gathering all the info I can before I set off on the journey. By the way, I ordered your sun screen. It is wonderful, especially in a dry climate. I plan to stock up before winter. I need all the moisture I can get when the Mercury dips to -30 C (or -43 C as it did this past February!).
Oh yeah, I remember the first time I used Tretinoin, I was a peeling, flaking mess. I wound up throwing it away.
I just moved up to 0.1% and to be safe, am moisturizing first, with a fairly heavy moisturizer.... I’m at about day 4, I noticed some small areas of peeling/dryness. So even over a thick moisturizer, Tretinoin cream works. I have read some studies that say it penetrates easier and works better on moisturized skin.
Geslina M hey, have you experienced any purging ?
Definitely took about 3 weeks to build up to nightly. I made the mistake of getting it too close to the corners of my mouth. I was on a ventilator for about a month one time, so I’m already prone to that area cracking. But I had to keep it away from that area for awhile too. I’m about a month in and my skin has adjusted beautifully. No dryness anymore 👍🏽
GOD Bless you all. GOD Loves you all. Have a blessed day everyone.
God bless you too! 😊
God bless
So eye creams are unnecessary after all? If a skin doctor is using moisturiser around her eyes I guess that tells me all I need to know
Dee Wye I actually recently read an article that said a lot of dermatologists think eye cream is a scam. I was shocked and now am suspicious of all my pricey eye creams. 😭 Apparently many believe that if your moisturizer or other skin care products have good enough ingredients for your face that it’s good enough for your eyes too (unless it says not to use around your eyes).
True.. just use the double amount of moisturiser around your eyes.. it will help
If you already have a good all around skincare rutine, there should be no need for it. Some use eye creams religiously, and swear that it makes a huge difference. But I honestly think eye creams are a huge scam, yes there are good ingrediens in some, but there are the exact same ingrediens in some of your other skincare products to. I myself is soon close to my 40's, and talking with other people at the same age, I hear a difference in rutines. Like a lot of people rub hard on their eyelids and eye area, when they remove makeup and do their skincare rutine, insted of just treating that area carefully to prevent earlier wrinkles. Like not touching your face all the time (have been a habit of mine), also gives less breakout, so I personally think a good skincare rutine and thinking about what you do to your face, can help your skins condition for the rest of your life. That ofcouse does not mean I am right, but it works for my skin, and I save a lot of money.
A good eye cream has the same exact ingredients as a good moisturizer. “Good” meaning a mix of humectants, occlusives, and maybe some antioxidants, and NO fragrance or essential oils or citrus. If you already have a good moisturizer, it is more than efficient for your eye area. The only time you would use a separate eye cream is if A. a prescribing medical professional recommends it, B. you want to use a targeted active ingredient like retinol or phytic acid ONLY in the eye area (which in this case, you don’t need to find a product specifically advertised for the eye area. You can use a face serum with hyaluronic acid *just* around your eyes; no one is going to break into your house and arrest you), or C. you use an SPF eye product in the morning for added protection.
@@sallyrhubarb I use Vaseline around my eyes and I love the results. Every time I wake up people in my school think I use some high end eye cream cuz I look fresh and I hardly wear makeup lol.
I love that you explain the pharmacodynamics and physiology involved in this regimen. I’m a nurse and I always love hearing the scientific mechanics of a product’s effect on the body. Subscribed! You’re a woman who knows what she’s doing!
I'm 19 and I'm about to begin my journey with tretinoin tmr... this REALLY helped omg luv uuu, you've gained a new subscriber😭❤️ you + Dr dray= my skincare bible
Thank you for your support! ❤️
Update?
@@cerealis_5432 almost 2 months now, best decision ever! 😄 using 0.025% tret
Did you start for acne or anti-aging?
I used tretinoin for 4 months but then had a CO2 laser resurfacing done to address acne scars. This is a great reminder of how to reinstate tretenoin once my doctor determines I am ready. Thank you, Dr. Sam.
Thank you for telling us how to buffer with moisturizer(s).
Love the "buffering" tip
Thanks for these tips, Dr. Sam! I've been using Tazorac 0.1% gel for over 10 years and love it! It's worked wonders for my acne, texture, and hyperpigmentation.
This video is a GOD SEND. I'm on day 4 of using clindamycin, benzoyl peroxide, and tretinoin and my skin was drying out like crazy. It actually burned to put moisturizer one especially around my eyes. I definitely gonna start moisturizing before and after, using moisturizer goggles, reducing frequency of application for now. Also never heard of the fingertip measurement technique or 13 dots so will definitely be using that!
Wish I had seen your video before applying it under my eyes ...
it really got very sensitive
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My skin is very sensitive... Last year I used Tretinoin on dry skin and it was always burning hot and sometimes hurt too. This year I started doing it after moisturizer and I am really happy with the results. . ( not using it during summer time)
I purchased a prescription Tretinoin online a year ago and started using it but quickly went from perfect skin to dry skin badly. I stopped using it completely and did a lot of research then decided to see a dermatologist bc $260 for a tube was stupid. So she called me in a prescription and though it was still $250 I was impatient with insurance so used a discount card and paid $59 and started again tonight. I’m 34 with 7 kids and generally super healthy skin. No bumps, discoloration, etc. but I Was prescribed that and benzyl peroxide with Clindamycin, for one spot I randomly developed on my forehead a month before I got pregnant with my 7th baby and stayed even though she’s now 4 mos old. So I am hoping it helps make that go away and also with anti-aging :) thanks for the tips
U get it for 3 dollors outside USA...if u have Indian friends ,just ask them to get the tubes when they visit india
Dr. Sam, I know there are people like me with rosacea which have heard about using retinol. Nowadays, there seems to be two perspectives on the procedure to follow. One is doing it very slowly to avoid irritation as much as possible. The other one is going strong, no moisturizer, to get a short, but acute irritation in order to prevent chronic irritation. I'd love you to adress this topic, because my face is getting worse, but I don't know who and which way to go. Thank you.
Lucía García I have not seen any reputable UA-camrs who recommend using it strong to prevent chronic irritation. That sounds like a no-no to me.
I've personally heard a Spanish dermatologist, who also thought irritation was a big no-no for rosacea, until she received training from Dr. Obagi in CA. She herself had the most reactive skin, but decided to take this approach and succeded. Of course, she now sells Obagi products at her clinic. I'm both hesitant to be pushed into buying a specific product and also ruining my skin.
Lucía García Well, thats troubling that a dermatologist is going around saying that. Hopefully Dr. Sam will answer soon. If not and while I’m thinking about it, you might try Dr. Dray’s channel. If I’m remembering right, she has had eczema in the past and uses Retina-A regularly. Seems unnecessary to me to suffer when there may be ways not to. I know rosacea is different from eczema, but there could be similar challenges in having them and using Retin-A.
@@luciagarcia5272 Obagi is VERY strong. It made me have whelps on my face! I wouldn't ever use it again.
I know Obagi has different lines...
THANK YOU for talking about buffering - sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo many videos talk about putting retinol before moisturizer and never mention you might want to put retinoal AFTER moisturizer! Then they complain about how it's too strong. Slow and steady wins the marathon race.
I've been using Retin-A for two years and I did not know this is how I should be applying. Thank you for this Dr. Sam.
Wow, you did zero research!
@@jenGeeJushawshee What a strange and unhelpful comment. Not that I need to justify my comment to you, or anyone on this platform, but I was referring to the buffering technique. I did not start using Retin-A blindly, I have a dermatologist. Persnickety comments like the one you left are unnecessary and unhelpful. Don't throw shade - just watch the videos, and leave a POSITIVE comment if you are so compelled. Cheers.
I use Cereve skin renewing cream serum first. It has niacinimide in it and it’s super light weight. I wait around 30 min then apply my Retin A. I use to use it without a buffer and my skin never adjusted. It was constantly peeing and looked terrible when I wore makeup. This way has worked so much better for me.
Best information and demonstration I have EVER seen on starting a retinoid regime! Thank you so much!!!!
totally agree
Thank you for another valuable information. I’ve always been intimidated using Retinoids in case I apply improperly and will have a negative effect on my skin. Can’t wait to start using one!
I’m using Differin with clindamycin phosphate pledgets so far so good
Wish I had seen this video before I started. I am 28 and two weeks in , thanks for the awesome vid💕
Am just starting today I found this video helpful ❤
1. Apply at nighttime. Cleanse. Moisturize BEFORE retinoid. Apply to thicker areas of face. Don’t let retinol collect in skin folds. Protect your lips. Retinol is cream form is better. Apply retinol. Firmly massage
The Retin-A gel is so hard to use because it dries so quickly!
Ethan Trenaman I slather myself in castor oil after 15 minutes applying of Retin -a. It does the job to keep your skin bouncy and hydrated. ( it is very sticky though)
Agreed! It evaporates within seconds!
Lovely to see you in a video again!
I have rosacea which is totally under control thanks to laser treatment, have been wanting to add a retinol into my skincare routine, which strength would you recommend starting with? x
Thank you Dr Sam loved the video, I have been using retin a now for 11 years and love it 😊
Hi! Do you do cleanse> retinoid> moisturizer?
I hope you will do an advance retinoid video. I have been using Tretinoin .05% on my face for a year. I want to try it on my neck if possible.
lilajane3 I hope Dr. Sam will do a video on Advanced Retinoid Usage. This video seems to imply it can be used on the neck but cautiously. Hot & Flashy has a video in which she says her neck will not tolerate Retin-A so she uses a Retinaldehyde. I’m sure neck usage is a very individual thing.
I am curious. I guess I accidentally got some on my neck a few days ago and it's been itching nonstop! I would like to know if something could be done about the lines there & occasional pimple though.
I know it's tempting to put it on your fine lines or around your eyes but at the beginning especially its not worth it! Rushing will damage your skin, and you will have to take a break and then work your way up again (which in the long run actually takes longer). Small amounts, away from your thin skin and slowllllllyyyy build up. It stops you from getting peeling.
BRILLIANT VIDEO! 😍
🥰thanks very much 🇬🇧
Thanks for watching! ❤
Should the goal be the eventually apply the retinoids first before moisturizer?
I am comfused too. Most doctors insist that retinol should be applied to skin first to dry skin! Some advise that it works better without moisturizer... I don't know anything anymore .. 🤔🤔
Hi Sam! Could you adress the question of what strength to use when you are just starting of? And should one use a cream form or an oil form? Hugs xx from Sweden :)
Sandra Ros
There is 0.25
0.5 and 0.1...start with the lowest strength and depending on your skin reaction increase strength accordingly
Thank you so much. I started it 3 wks ago for Hormonal Acne. I have been using the wrong way all along. Thanks for d great tips.
My Family how did it work for you? I, starting it tonight and I’m scared
Finally a reliable source of useful information
Best, and I do mean BEST, how to put on/use/apply/start retinol video. Thank you Dr. Sam from your new subscriber
I've been using Retin-a for 5 months now, I was super worried about the neck too because everyone says the neck is so sensitive to it. Well turns out my neck has zero issue with it, as does most of my face, I was however shocked how bad my chin area reacted to it...so I had to completely discontinue the use in my chin area just one little dab of it there and I looked like I had contact dermatitis 🥺🥺🥺
Can you please make a video on how to store products with active ingredients, especially those that are packaged as droppers, and in places where temperatures are pretty high in the summers?
Very informative- thank you
hi just found your channel . This was wonderful I will soon be 56 and have had acne , large pores all my life . Tried retinols but always had terrible results .This was so helpful i will have try again
Thank you so much for the information. I was struggling with how to use my retinol cream. I will definitely try your steps, and not be so intimidated by the skincare product. -🇨🇦🐥🥰⭐️💫✨🙏
Excellent. So helpful. Thank you Dr. Bunting. Just found your great videos.
Hi, thanks for the helpful video
I have a few questions: first, how long do you continue with this regimen, once the acne is treated?
And when you stop, what do you recommend to prevent further breakouts, especially if you don't want to use retinoid long-term?
Also, if you're using adapalene gel and also taking oral multivitamin supplements (containing Vit A), is there any danger of over-dose?
Excellent video! Cheers!
Die Retinol Grüner Tee Creme von Schutzengelein ist extrem gut und preiswert dazu
Thank you for this. I got a free deluxe sample of Drunk Elephant Passioni retinol and had no idea how to use it without getting dry and irritated skin.
Thank you so much for making this video!
So glad I saw this video! Just started using my retinoid cream tonight
Christie S how is it working for u
Ali D I don’t like it, I used it for like 8 weeks, made me so greasy and break out, did not improve either
Thank you for this video. It was VERY helpful .
Thank you for a brilliant explanation x
How to start for rosacea skin? And which one is good for sensitive rosacea prone skin?
Super helpful guide, thank you Sam. You explain everything so clearly, thank you! X
Could you speak about the evidence regarding the effectiveness of each kind of retinoid, like Adapalene vs Tretinoin vs Tazarotene vs Isotretinoin and how figure out which one is best for you?
I bought the ordinary 2% retinol in squalene recently and am wondering if it can be layered under a moisturizer or will it always be the last step?
Found your videos today and love the content. Thanks for sharing 💜
Good question!
I really like your channel. 😀 It’s straight to the point without the added filler subscribe, post notifications etc
Omg what perfect timing! I’ve just started a Differin routine. My skin is not bad occasional breakouts from shaving, I mostly want the anti-aging benefits!
Hi what strength if differin are you using snd for what benefits ?
Actually differin focus on acne not on anti aging
LM jay if you look at research, it’s been found to help with anti-aging as well, just not as good as the other ones
I'm about to start introducing differin to my skincare as it was prescribed by my derm. Thanks for this informative video - def calmed my anxieties of the purge process which this product causes!! I'm totally aligned on your slow dosage and introduction to the skin process but what about taking antibiotics such as minocycline as well to manage the purge? Is this pairing recommended? What's your take on this?
WHAT A GREAT DETAILED VIDEO!
Great clear video
You're so good!👏👏thank you so much for your information🙂🙂
can you tell me if you put retinol on the backs of your hands at night please and also what handcream you use during the day, thankyou. i use a medic 8 chrystal retinol , i think its the one you used in this video, do you reccommend that ?. x
Make a video on post inflammatory Erythema
This was so helpful thank you. After a few weeks of using my retinoid product I’ve noticed my ‘marionette’ lines are more pronounced and I’ve panicked! I’m thinking that the product might have pooled up in the slight creases there. I will give it a rest for a few days then start ‘buffering’ as you suggest and take more time to smooth the cream in. I might avoid that area totally. Thanks again Sam.
Such a great video!
Is my tretinoin still working if I am not experiencing the purging, flaking dryness, irritation?
Have you experienced those side effects yet? I'm about to start but afraid for the side effects. How do you apply the tretinoin ?
Hey, I’m about to start but afraid of all side effects that comes along with it. How are you applying yours?
Best video on how to apply retinol ,thank u 💜
Glad it was helpful!❤️
I so appreciate your knowledge and videos! Thanks you
There is a compelling evidence that I've read online that Niacinamide and Tretinoin shouldn't be mixed together. What's your opinion on that ? Since,your point one has that as a key ingredient.
Can you please do video on how to get rid of Millia? What are the best products to do the work?
Thank you, doc! I just subscribed. ☺️
So very helpful! Thank you.
Hello Dr. Sam,,, What about those of us who have been using retinoids for a while,, How often should I use retinoids to achieve the maximum benefit? It does cause me dryness still. I'm on a skincare routine that includes hyaluronic acid and niacinimide, amongst other products targeting occasional horomonal acne and especially post-inflammation hyper-pigmentation. Thank you for all your informative videos! Hind (All the way from Bahrain)
Simple and clear explaination. Thank you for sharing!
Hey Dr Sam! Could you recommend some retinol for overall wrinkles (especially forehead) that won't feed Malassezia? Many thanks!
Thank you for showing and explaining the proper use of retinoids around the mouth. I just started adapalene and was told not to apply it around mouth/eyes. It was confusing to me since other retinoids are used there. I moisturize first, and use Vaseline on lips. Thank you for a great video. What do you recommend for eyes? Thank you! :)
Thanks for all these informative videos, these tips have definitely helped me adjust to epiduo better than I would've (although the purge stage was still awful but I dont think that can be helped)
Sarah Nelson A purge stage is a false idea. None of the reputable and truly knowledgeable UA-camrs condone that idea. Slow and gradual is the way to go. Dont subject yourself to a purge stage. That is truly wrong and not necessary.
I love the cleanser, it’s ideal as it’s fragrance free, non-comedogenic and doesn’t strip the skin, but still removes makeup.
I bought the flawless serum in September 2019. Unfortunately, I always had an event or an interview coming up and I was afraid of ‘purging’ /peeling / dry patches etc so never got round to using it. In the current situation where I’m less likely to see people, I thought it would be the perfect chance to start to use the flawless serum.
I would like to confirm the consistency / use by date (on the bottle it has the 12m logo, which I think means it lasts 12 months once opened).
When I used it, there were small ‘grains’ or lumps in the serum, not loads, just a few and I just wondered if this was normal/ok to sill use?
Thank you for this video...I’m just starting out using retinol.
How long after applying the retinoid can you apply moisturizer again? Also, what if you decide you can step up your retinoid and find out that it's too soon and you have irritation that's bothersome but you don't want to stop? Do you just return to the routine you were doing that wasn't as bothersome and then re-evaluate in another two weeks?
Really helpful video thank you!
Thanks Dr. Sam! What do you think about exfoliating with glycolic acid before applying a Retinoid?
Laura Johnson funny!! It was also the question i was about to write!!!
Hi there...i think that using two exfoliating products together is not advisable, it might be too irritating for the skin...i use glycolic acid in the morning and tretenoine at night.
Linda Said thank you!
Linda Said that was my point, not using together but the glicolic in the morning and retinol at night!
I use acids and retinoids on alternate nights. I’m not keen on using actives in the morning, even though I always wear SPF - I treat it more as time for hydrating and protecting the skin 😊
Hello dr Sam
I am 50 and I am using but Vit C serum , moisturizer Cera Ve and a sun screen during the day. At night I use tretonoin 0.05
I do have rosacea on the checks , come broken capillaries and redness, not too bad.
I am considering buying the nuFace trinity for my starting sagging jawls
I would like your opinion on how effective and cost worthy it is! Should I invest in buying it or do you have a better suggestion?
Thank you
Elena
I put mine on the first thing after I cleanse and once it has absorbed then I add the moisturizer around the sensitive areas because I want the debridement of those particular areas so they can regenerate I am 50 but when I was 30 I looked much older
Thank you so much Dr Sam.
question about layering. Can you layer a niacinamide moisturizer over a vitamin c serum without loosing efficancy of any of them?
I was left with this question too. What other products can be used before or after? Serums? I do the 7 layer of Korean beauty routine. Would all this come after my layers of toners and essences?
I am desparate to find the answer of the following question - do I need to use retinol every day to maintain it's long-term anti-aging benefits? Or 2-3 nights a week will be still as effective long-term?
Hi doctor, thanks for the informative video. One question: can i start differin in summer to treat acne? Thanks a lot.
😊So happy I watched this! Thank you.
Will you see a dramatic anti-aging effect overtime even if you just use it twice a week?
Monica Newna I think the goal is every day eventually, depending on your sensitivity. My understanding is it takes a long time to show effects, no matter the frequency. I hope Dr. Sam will answer your question. If not, Dr. Dray has a whole series in Retin-A, as does Hot & Flashy. I would think twice a week is a good frequency.
WInnie Pauly thank you so much. You are also very helpful.
Katara Aang oh I hope she would too. 😊
Monica Newna Youre very welcome. Dr. Sam is the expert though.
@@wap9137 I watch those 2 channels as well. Excellent info. I'm wanting to start tretinoin but I'm scared. I'm first watching every video I can find!
Which retinoid product is safest for a beginner with sensitive skin like a baby, acne prone too? Which lip balm you use?
I started with The Ordinary Gran. Retinoid 2%, then worked up to 5%, then switched over to Differin which I am doing right now. If you have sensitive skin, it's easier to ease into the strong stuff. A long time ago I did straight into Differin and it felt like I fried my face off!