Making an old wall super straight and plumb using timber battens and packers***PLUS MANAGING DAMP***

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  • @jasonshulme
    @jasonshulme 13 днів тому +1

    Great idea with 3mm packer for the string line. Saves worrying about distorting the line.
    Also totally agree spending the time to level the wall, especially for a kitchen. Saves so much hassle and faff when fitting etc.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  12 днів тому +1

      Hi Jason🖐Spacing the line off was one of the first things I was taught about when using string line👊Appreciate your comment bud and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

  • @michaelrose9949
    @michaelrose9949 Рік тому +4

    I think you done the right thing big problem now in the building trade we treat Older property’s like new we seal them up and insulate them all modern amenities and do more harm than good. 👍

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      I absolutely agree Michael 👍 I've worked on old properties that have been over sealed, DPC'd and VCL'd, and its always a damp sweaty mess🤔Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del

  • @stuartwest1236
    @stuartwest1236 Рік тому +7

    Another enjoyable video friend,I really enjoy working in older properties and tackling issues such as straightening walls and ceilings etc getting it upto our "modern day" standards 😂

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +2

      Thanks Stuart🤗Its definitely a different set of challenges to newer type work🤔Thanks for your comment😎Cheers Del

  • @joshuamatheron1
    @joshuamatheron1 Рік тому +8

    Done plenty of this type of work. Initially you regret ever starting but once it’s done I found it pretty rewarding. I Like the way you work. Very similar to myself. Great video as always

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      I feel exactly the same when I start this kind of job Joshua😶but like you, once you get into it, it's very satisfying when you start to get things straight👌Appreciate your comment and great to have you watching🤩Cheers Del

    • @Goodwithwood69
      @Goodwithwood69 Рік тому +1

      Done it in timber for years! Now found metal works better for me!

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      @@Goodwithwood69 I like the sound of metal stud, but it's not as easy to get hold of round my way😬Cheers Del

    • @riptiz
      @riptiz Рік тому +1

      @@thetallcarpenteronly problem with steel is the chance of condensation.

  • @michaelplays2449
    @michaelplays2449 Рік тому +1

    Oh my God Del 😮 you sure take on the tough assignments 😂😂 No better man to have on the job .....they are lucky to have you !!

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      I came to be doing this inside work by default of doing the floor and roof of the extension Michael👍Every jobs easier when you working for nice customers🤩Cheers

  • @truus5653
    @truus5653 Рік тому +2

    done exactly this with my late husband in our first (old) house 40 years ago. Good memories

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Glad it brought back nice memories Truus 🤗Thanks for watching🤩Cheers Del

  • @johnmorrissey1675
    @johnmorrissey1675 Рік тому +1

    Nice one Del doing a job very similar, old stone building, wires and pipe work every where half of it dead the other half live , have to agree with you on the ventilation of old building's 🤙☘️🇮🇪👋👏

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      We're living the dream together then John😆Thanks for watching as always bud🤗Cheers Del

  • @m0aze611
    @m0aze611 Рік тому +1

    Another great vid with plenty of freebie tips. Thank you Mike

  • @FusionFixings
    @FusionFixings Рік тому +1

    Great video and spot on for those who are not in a new build. .

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for your comment🤗and you're quite right, and many, many people will live in older properties like this😶Cheers Del

  • @henry-b3301
    @henry-b3301 Рік тому +1

    Gosh, How I always enjoy watching your content, thanks for this new educative video.👍

  • @jgrana587
    @jgrana587 Рік тому +1

    Right man for the job.i like the forward thinking,love the video's thanks 🖖

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Apologies your comment 🤩Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

  • @carl4406
    @carl4406 Рік тому +1

    Great quality work as always. Good to see a variety of work.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Carl🖐I guess it keeps your brian active doing different stuff🫡Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

  • @denty32
    @denty32 Рік тому +2

    Great video Del, its a challenge for sure 👏👏

  • @noskills9577
    @noskills9577 Рік тому +1

    Exactly the sort of work l I like but never do. Trying to work out ways of dealing with old knackered houses/walls and making them sound and useable again.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +2

      Hi NS🖐I guess its the classic problem solving that most chippies are pretty good at👌Thanks for watching and your comment🤩Cheers Del

  • @garvielloken3929
    @garvielloken3929 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic! Awesome

  • @arthuranderson7741
    @arthuranderson7741 Рік тому +1

    yip enjoyed this one as well...great to see how to straighten out wonky walls..takes a bit more time but worth it in the end..gets the brain working that little bit harder..than into auto mode.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Definitely have to stop and think a bit more Arthur🤯Thanks, as always, for watching bud🤩Cheers

  • @johnwaby4321
    @johnwaby4321 Рік тому +1

    Nicely set out del 👍👍

  • @Wattsjoinerybarn
    @Wattsjoinerybarn Рік тому +2

    Another Cristal clear video. You have a real knack for explaining. The damp analogy, dpm and raw plug trick is spot on. A really well worked system that you considered for that environment.
    Have you ever tried using a laser as a parallel,say on the tile line or any arbitrary place of reference and then a datum stick or measure to get the Timbers in wind? It’s how I find the proudest point and plum my lining walls. I am not knocking your technique as it is the totally correct way but I started using the laser for it and found it so much easier once you dial in a system! You still need a long level to check as you did tho obviously.
    A real joy to watch, thanks again💪🏻

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Hi there🖐Really appreciate great input from fellow tradesmen🤗and often I don't use the laser purely out of habitually using a string🤔I started in 1986 using these older methods for getting things straight, and I don't always think, 'ah, the laser would be good for that'. You are quire right though, and setting up a laser datum line would be a supremely easy and accurate way of keeping walls like this straight and plumb👊Cheers Del

    • @Wattsjoinerybarn
      @Wattsjoinerybarn Рік тому +1

      Ha yeah you are old school and I am mid school., 99. You would have that string line set up and ready to go while I was still looking for batteries! I must admit I love a good old string line tho! Thanks for the reply Del. Anyway I am finally sick of bank holidays so back to it!😂looking forward to the next vid already👊

  • @TheNorthernmunky
    @TheNorthernmunky Рік тому +1

    Lovely job Del

  • @liamjohnny335
    @liamjohnny335 Рік тому +1

    Nice...dell👍
    Yr so fussy buddy . lovely to see .
    With my dad we used to bang up the battern wall direct to brickwork with nails and the square ut up later withthe plasterwork...few people will check to see if square... especially if yr fitting out the kitchen..
    I admire yr dedication sir 👍

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Thanks Liam🤗and I know I'm a bit OCD sometimes🙃Thanks for your comment bud 😎 Cheers Del

  • @paulfinnonjoinery
    @paulfinnonjoinery Рік тому +1

    just catching up del. been a bit busy lately. little while back i fitted a kitchen in a house for a friend of mines parents. one of the oldest houses in south shields apparently. over 200 year old. the floor in the kitchen area was approximately 150mm out of level from one side to the other diagonally. nothing at all could be done to rectify it as below the kitchen was all the bedrooms of the house. So we had to make do and fit accordingly.
    i always buy the screwfix gold screws also. never ever had an issue with them they seem to perform the same as the more expensive brands.
    class vids as always del. cheers mate

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Paul🖐Sounds like you had some fun up there bud🙃Personally, I don't see the need to spend huge money on everyday screws, and like you, I find Goldscrews good for nearly all my work, plus I'm not a fan of self sinking heads as I want my screws to force the wood down, not cut into it👊Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del

  • @LucasRichardStephens
    @LucasRichardStephens Рік тому +1

    Earth floor with tiles, possibly subsidence on the outside wall? Victorian brick work (1880's)? How is the outside drainage? Good I hope. Very breathable systems to allow continuous drying.... would be ideal for a wood burner that creates under pressure and dries the building out to in. All in all a very challenging project, hope you are on an hour rate for this project. The customer is lucky to have you. A membrane would have to go under the exterior wall, otherwise the humidity might increase under the wall, making the brick wetter. I don't envy the climate you have, with the high humidity as a starting point. This building has the traits of a workshop rather than a dwelling. Some kind of natural ventilation system, ie a tall chimney that creates a constant up draft/under-pressure would/could keep it dry, though a real fire does the same thing. Just thinking allowed, I have worked on a couple of houses with earthen floors in UK, Peter Ward has some good videos on dealing with these older buildings. All very fascinating, thanks for sharing your work, best wishes, Lucas

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Hi Lucas🖐Some great points/thoughts in your comment👌and I appreciate you watching🤩Cheers Del

  • @garys628
    @garys628 Рік тому +1

    interesting stuff Del.....👍

  • @jonesconrad1
    @jonesconrad1 Рік тому +1

    I hear you on the plumbing / electrics, hard to fix it / do it properly until the stud work is in place to actually fix stuff neatly too.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      It's like a constantly moving target Conrad😬I have been pretty lucky on this job though, as I've been able to get round most of it with the odd notch here and there👍Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

  • @viankalobosvalenzuela7456
    @viankalobosvalenzuela7456 Рік тому +1

    Buenas tardes excelente video saludos 👍

  • @baldyslapnut.
    @baldyslapnut. Рік тому +2

    These kind of jobs need a lot of head scratching to get looking sound, nicely done. I'd probably allow for a bit more airflow if it's as damp as you describe. My second house was converted from a C18th stable block. Nothing was square or plumb! Got an ex-demo kitchen from B&Q and assembled the base units as a block, then packed them off the floor and wall and scribed the worktops. It also had a live unmetered gas supply direct from the mains at some serious pressure💥. British Gas didn't believe us but sent someone out to check eventually. His face lost all colour when he cracked open the stop end a few turns and nearly got blown off his hop-up.
    To describe 3 dimensions simultaneously, use X, Y and Z axes: left right, up down, forwards backwards, respectively

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +2

      Great comment BS🤩Especially the bit about the gas man😆And I'll try and remember the X,Y and Z axis for next time😉Cheers Del

  • @TomsTimmervan
    @TomsTimmervan Рік тому +1

    great work Del, patience can get you really far in these situaties. We moved in a 220 year old appartmentbuilding a few months ago and it is renovated using the work with the walls we have style so even when fitting shelves I had to scribe 4 cm of because a big wonky bit in the middle. My weekends are filled with packers since we want to make it a nice space and I am not the type to do a half assed job even though my girlfriend doens't care at all haha😅

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Tom🖐Great comment bud, and sounds like you have great fun at the weekends😆Cheers Del

  • @bartbug1
    @bartbug1 Рік тому

    Nice work Del, thanks for the video.

  • @bensimmons3692
    @bensimmons3692 Рік тому +1

    Great vid Del, nice to see ya scratching ya noggin! Cheers Simmo

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      I scratched it so much Ben, I went a bit bald🤣Thanks for watching🤩Cheers

  • @Kfiskplumbing
    @Kfiskplumbing Рік тому +1

    Awesome work as always Del. Few answers for people along the back wall you studded there will be shelves so we will batten out where the fixings go. Plasterboard we will finish 25mm short of finished floor to allow ventilation through voids. All the plumbing and electrical work will be completely re done 🤣🙈

  • @lukehanna7440
    @lukehanna7440 Рік тому +2

    Nice work mate. I’ve done many jobs like this in renovations over the years. It’s very rare to find a plumb & straight wall. I’m doing a renovation at the moment where the loft ceiling was out by 4” turned out the purlin had cracked, so had to fix that. But the other purlin that will be visible looks like it’s smiling at you, & I’ve got to pack out & board the rafters above it, I think I’m just going to give up 😂

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Crickey Luke😲sounds like your job has got some real 'character' 😆Seems like you've got a plan though bud👊Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del

    • @lukehanna7440
      @lukehanna7440 Рік тому +1

      @@thetallcarpenter yep plenty of character 😆 think I’ve just got to embrace the curve and not try to straighten it out much. Difficult with insulated plasterboard tho, cheers 👍

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      @Luke Hanna And that's the trick Luke🤔trying to get things so you can fit modern, straighter building materials to it👍

    • @lukehanna7440
      @lukehanna7440 Рік тому +1

      @@thetallcarpenter absolutely, hence why renovations are more tricky than new build. Thanks for your reply Del, enjoy the bank holiday 👍

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +2

      @@lukehanna7440 I'm pitching hipped, lean to roof today Luke😬No rest for the wicked😆

  • @cabottaxi
    @cabottaxi Рік тому +1

    Got old 100 year old bungalow myself.
    Kitchen wall out of plumb and wondering how to get around fitting upstands .
    Quartz worktops to be scribed to walls but not sure if the quartz up stands can be fitted as walls are not completely flat.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi there🖐I understand your dilemma😬 but not there's much you can do to make the upstand fit tightly to a non straight wall🤔 Maybe it will just fit where it touches and be filled/caulked in the 'low' spots😶Cheers Del

  • @itwillbenicewhenitsfinished
    @itwillbenicewhenitsfinished Місяць тому +1

    Great video, thank you. What is the batton size and whats the spacing?

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Місяць тому

      Hi there🖐The battens are 2x1 and from memory, the spacing is 400mm🤞Cheers Del

  • @jimp514
    @jimp514 Рік тому +2

    Currently working on a building that was built in 1535...I feel your pain Del

  • @Pete.Ty1
    @Pete.Ty1 Рік тому +1

    👍👍👍Thank you

  • @candiw1259
    @candiw1259 Рік тому +1

    Another great video del. Love your attention to detail. I have a non symmetrical oval greenhouse project that combines log and conventional rafter construction and would like to get any suggestions you could offer.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Crickey Candi😮I wouldn't even know where to start in offering advice on your kind of project🤯Cheers Del

  • @callumfranklin3422
    @callumfranklin3422 Рік тому +1

    Great video - Could you use this method on a wall that is already plastered. Working on a 1930’s house and want to straighten the walls but would prefer not to have to knock all the plaster off and batten and plasterboard over it. Would this be okay?

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Callum🖐Yes, it would be fine to do this over existing plaster work👍All the best🤩Cheers Del

  • @amazing451
    @amazing451 Рік тому +4

    This job is taxing your brain Del I think, but it looks like your doing alright. You can't beat the string line and a couple of packers when doing work like this, some people use lasers but I always used the line. Keep the videos coming mate, speaking for myself there well recieved by me ! 👍👍

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +2

      Always appreciate your comment Kevin🤗For some reason, I always really enjoy working to a line🤔Its such a simple 'tool', but gives, near perfect results every time👊Thanks for watching🤩

    • @Toyotaamazon80series
      @Toyotaamazon80series Рік тому +1

      ​@@thetallcarpenter A dry line never runs out of batteries, 👍😁🔨🇮🇪

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      @@Toyotaamazon80series 🤔👍😎

  • @davetaylor4741
    @davetaylor4741 Рік тому +3

    All fun and games. But fitting the kitchen will be a breeze afterwards. This old building is wonky, but not too bad. In the area of Kent I lived and worked in, we were on live clay. The buildings moved a lot. The worst I worked on was a barn conversion from the 17th Century. Front wall was 17 inches out of plumb. I also did a lot of work on the Norman churches around me. All over the place. A lot of the houses I worked on it was not uncommon to fit doors with a bevel. They looked like a kite open. But fitted when shut. For a lot of jobs I wouldn't even get a level out of the van. This is before lasers. You worked in sympathy with what was there. Often if you put something in plumb or level it literally looked horrible. The house I was born in. There was hardly a wall you could look along and see the other end. Take the bows out of them and the rooms would end up 12 inches smaller in each direction. Putting a modern style kitchen in was always a dilemma. Altering kitchen cabinets. And scribing benchtops became a norm. I built a few kitchens in situe. A mate's old water mill. No chance of square boxes fitting that. And a round Oast house. Worked on a few of them. They make you think. The other thing is budget constraints. Your job is a gut out. There is an opportunity to adjust. When you turn up and the old kitchen consists of an Aga. A butler sink with timber or enamel drainers. And some free standing cabinets. Even had to demolish the brick bread oven in the corner. All to be replaced by the contents of the flat pack boxes in the room next door. Adapting becomes the name of the game. The joys of old buildings.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Hi Dave🖐You were 'literally' brought up with it then🤩Great comment as always bud👌Thanks for watching 😎

  • @julietphillips1991
    @julietphillips1991 Рік тому +3

    Based on what you have shown/talked about in the first 2 mins. or so, I think some tradesmen do too much "eyeballing" and they don't care too much about quality of their work.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +2

      That is sadly the case on too many occasions Juliet😵‍💫Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers

  • @jtrent90
    @jtrent90 Рік тому +1

    completely understand there's a time and a place for battening out (service void etc) but the best thing I ever learnt as a chippy in this situations was how to dot and dab 😂

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Hi there🖐Oh yeah, dot and dab would have got this wall super straight, super fast👊just not sure about how it would cope with any damp🤔Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del

  • @truth3358
    @truth3358 Рік тому +1

    Maybe it’s not the beam it can be subsidence subsidence

  • @thenomadicenglishman6075
    @thenomadicenglishman6075 Рік тому

    Great workmanship the trouble with great 1st fix is all you’re planning and graft is creamed by the the next trades and no appreciation goes to you

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      That's a fair point bud🤔and fortunately, most of the time, I'm the one going behind my own work😎Thanks for watching and your comment 🤩Cheers Del

  • @thomaswayneward
    @thomaswayneward Рік тому +4

    The saddest thing in building, watching a home being built where everything is screwed up from the beginning. It cannot be fixed, because the fixing is twice as expensive as it was to build it in the first place.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      You're correct Randy🤔And sadly, mistakes can be much easier rectified as soon as they are made, but many choose to just leave things😶Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

  • @jonesconrad1
    @jonesconrad1 Рік тому +1

    Normally I'm quite forgiving of previous trades and mistakes like things not being level (I mean a little), but that steel is crazy out of level.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      I'm the same Conrad, as you never know the circumstances in which the work was done🤔however, this place, over the years, seems to have had the worst that local building community has to offer😵‍💫Cheers Del

  • @richardstevenson2727
    @richardstevenson2727 Рік тому +1

    👍

  • @ChrisLivingInYork
    @ChrisLivingInYork Рік тому +1

    Great video as usual. Just wondered why you 2x2 and not 2x3 as I always find 2x2 is more expensive

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Chris🖐If I'm honest, I would automatically assume that 2x2 would be cheaper than 2x3, and will enquire next time I'm in the merchants👍Cheers Del

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Chris🖐If I'm honest, I would automatically assume that 2x2 would be cheaper than 2x3, and will enquire next time I'm in the merchants👍Cheers Del

  • @CritterCraftNZ
    @CritterCraftNZ Рік тому +1

    I really do enjoy your episodes for great tips on building where I have a mixture of brick or block walls and timber framing. However, I often have to pay very close attention for the fine details cos I can't see well enough in dimly lit sites. No offence but Scott Brown Carpentry always lights his "sets" well using simple flood lights. An example of Scott making a wall flush in a renovation ... starting at 13min 21secs 😉Phil. ua-cam.com/video/CEEfCZdMC_I/v-deo.html

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Phil🖐I appreciate you watching and your input👍Please bear in mind that Scott Brown has a very successful channel, (deservedly so), and will be making thousands of dollars a month from it enabling him to take much more time, (consequently not producing as much work), to film and invest in much better camera and lighting equipment👍I can't charge my customers for the time I spend setting up my 'set' and talking into the camera, (not to mention the hours of editing), and offsetting this against the few hundred pounds a month the channel makes, means making videos actually costs me😶However, I'm not doing it for the money, but to try and spread a bit of the experience I have gained over my carpentry career🤩Cheers Del

  • @marty259
    @marty259 Рік тому +1

    I dont understand how people can say they enjoy working in these old buildings. They are obviously not on a price. Newslfash let me save yous all a fortune on time and money. 40 years in the renovation game .bond all the walls with pva and apple cider vinegar and water. dot dab sheets with knauf plasterboard ADHESIVE. not the plasterboard compound .sticks like shit on a blanket level and plumb all your walls.

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Hi Marty🖐Thanks for your interesting comment, and yours is not a technique that I have seen, and I would be concerned what would happen to any damp that might be sealed in to the brick work🤔However, I am not doubting your experience and the results you have been having with it over many years👍Cheers Del

  • @SteveAndAlexBuild
    @SteveAndAlexBuild Рік тому +1

    Nice one Del I hope when you picked up your timber you grabbed a 5 gallon tub of turd polish 💩🫣😆🧱👍🏽

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому

      Hi Steve🤩The timber merchants hadn't restocked after I bought them out if turd polish on my visit😵‍💫Thanks for watching bud 😎

  • @paddy120
    @paddy120 Рік тому +1

    👍

  • @truth3358
    @truth3358 Рік тому +1

    Maybe it’s not the beam it can be subsidence

    • @thetallcarpenter
      @thetallcarpenter  Рік тому +1

      Who knows why it's so far out Truth🤔but that steel was put in out of level😵‍💫Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del

  • @adriandotsmall
    @adriandotsmall Рік тому +1

    👍