Let me know in the comments if I missed anyone or if you would arrange the list differently. I love the interaction and that is what makes sports fun!!
There were so many great players in the decade that played OF and/or other positions. Pete Rose, Rod Carew Reggie Jackson, Harmon Killebrew, Dick Allen etc. There were so many great pitchers during that time as well. I agree, and have always said, the 60s had the greatest players.
I saw all these players at one time or another. At my first game at old Candlestick park I saw Vada Pinson hit a homer. That was 1960. The 60's were an exciting time in MLB. Players were not paid so much and were part of the neighborhood. Denny McLain taught organ lessons in my suburb of Detroit. Mickey Lolich and I worked in the same restaurant. All these guys had to work in the off-season to pay their bills. Nowadays they probably have clauses in their contracts to prevent them from working less they get hurt somehow. It was a great time to be a baseball fan!
@@kevinwalsh9253 it was a different era and it was much easier to relate to the players than it is now, when they all have body guards and wind sign autographs even for kids. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge.
I think the National League had the best players. At least until Frank Robinson was traded to Baltimore of the American League. So much talent throughout the NL.
Good list. I saw Willie Mays once in Albuquerque just before an expedition game. I was driving bye and he was on his way into our minor league park. I slammed on the brakes, rolled down the window, and yelled, "say hey Willie!" He grinned real big, I got out of the car and shook hands with the man.
Really glad you made this a Top 19 and not a Top 10. So many terrific outfielders in that decade, you were able to highlight some terrific players who nonetheless would have fallen short of a Top 10 list. Thanks!
@@tvcdboombox1 my pleasure and thanks for the kind words. There were too many to only do a top 10 list. Hopefully it didn’t show, but my voice was a getting a little hoarse at the end.
It has to do with the years he played with Robinson and he years he did not. Robinson made Vada a great hitter and when he left he was just a good hitter. Pitchers did not want to face Frank so Vada got better pitches to hit.
Vada Pinson is an interesting player From 1958 when he played with Frank Robinson he put up Hall of Fame numbers. Four times he had over 200 hits and he had power in his bat too. After Frank was traded to Orioles, Vada's numbers went from great to good. He was an excellent centerfielder with speed. Starting in 1969, he became a journeyman ball player playing for the Indians, the Cardinals and the Gene Autry Angels. He never regained the greatest he had when playing with Frank. Flood also started his career with the Reds but could never break into the regular lineup. On December 5, 1957:. he was traded to the Cardinals where he excelled as a hitter and was probably the best centerfielder in baseball while with the team. It is interesting that Flood, Pinson and Robinson all went to the same high school and ended up playing on the same team. Another excellent list.
@@josephshields2922 that probably has something to do with it but I'd say it has more to do with Mays, Aaron and Clemente being his contemporaries. I'd have to really think about it but off the top of my head I would say that if you took his 60's seasons and transplanted them to the 70's or 80's he would be #1 on the list.
@@jsd795 New Yory City was the hub of TV and journalistic publications and that is why Mickey Willie and the Duke were recognized so early in their career. Hank Aaron didn't even get the attention he deserved until he got to 5oo Hr.
Wow, what a great list and a reminder of just how many all-time players were a part of this era! I may have put Billy Williams and Yaz (Yaz from 67 to 70, in my opinion, was the best player in the game) up maybe a slot or two higher, but everyone listed here was a joy to watch and remember for their greatness.
I'm jealous that you and many others were able to see these guys play in their primes. Thanks for the kind words and especially for sharing your opinions.
I really love your top of lists. I don't follow baseball like many but this made me look up some of them. I was shocked that Roger Maris was not a Hall of Fame player.
He bounced around Clevland and KC before having 3 or 4 good years with the Yankees. He's remembered for that one big season and some folks think he was a 1 trick pony. He had a good glove but he had less than 300 homers so he's one of those guys who just fall short. 400 homers used to be the prerequsite that's why it took Gil Hodges so long to get in. Colovito was better,
I was glad to see Lou Brock on the list. He's the most artistic base stealer I have ever seen. He knew that the size of the lead is not the most important thing. He got up to speed very quickly but his real secret was was, he was preternaturally good at getting a jump. Once he got a good jump there was no way that anyone could throw him out. And then he would tie a ribbon on it with the popup slide.
As a child l grew up idolizing Lou Brock. Long after he retired l was able to meet him in person. He was even a nicer man than he was great baseball player, and he is a hall of fame player.
👍 Some mighty fine outfielders there , , N.L.12 / A.L.7 , , i liked what you said about the top four being at completely different level , , of course when those other 11 national league outfielders came to town to play my all time favorite team and player, Roberto Clemente and the Pirates , , we always expected fireworks , , they were good at everything, hitting, fielding, throwing ,running , , i think you had the top four in the right order , , maybe Bill Virdon could have got an honorable mention ( but then where do you stop) 😉 thank you for your enthusiasm , you make us feel good about our beloved game of baseball
I'm a cub fan and I would place Brock higher as well. At his best he was getting 200 hits a year, walking 100 times and stole bases well into his middle late 30's. Decent kind man. RIP.
The pronunciation of Vada Pinson first name is a "long A (like gate) V Ada". Really good player. When he and Frank Robinson played for the Reds they were a feared duo.
A lot of great ball player's on this list, loved watching pitchers sweat trying to get Billy Williams out, and him on his hot streaks where he was good for 3-4 line drives a game for 2-3 wks at a time. A iron man who peaked 1969-73, not a flashy fielder or huge arm but can't recall him throwing to the wrong base, or a bad move on the base paths. Decent kind man, at nearing 86, most of his 69 Cubs teammates have become a ghost team.
Willie Mays was the greatest player ever. He was more than a five tool player, he was one of the absolute best at every tool. Only Aaron and Ruth come close
@@waheisel yes. I noticed that she I was researching this and wondered if they would be willing to answer mail with an autograph. I don’t think that Yaz is very good that way though. Thanks for watching.
People forget what a great era for baseball that was. Starting in the '50's MLB started playing all those great Negro league and Latin baseball stars. And the list was both deep and had pinnacle level players like Mays, Robinson, Clemente, Mantle, Musiial, Williams, and Aaron. And then there are the pitchers: Koufax, Marichall, Jenkins, Spahn, Roberts, Gaylord Perry, that list is also nearly endless. It truly was the greatest era for MLB.
I guess it takes an old guy who grew up in San Francisco to know who was going to be number 1 before the video even began. However, since I started paying attention to baseball in 1967, Carl Yastrzemski, having won a triple crown that would not be achieved again for another 45 years and was left handed (as am I) was a major inspiration. I think one of the most interesting aspects of baseball is that it is still basically the same game so that feats of these players stands up to posterity.
@@stilllearning9590 is it the same game? The numbers that some of the guys from this era of the 60’s and 70’s put up, especially the pitchers, will never even be touched again. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 😎
Not a bad list, I would have Lou brock about #10. I would consider Willie stargell, Willie Horton, Tommy Davis and Frank Howard, maybe even Matty alou. Vada pinson should get hall of fame consideration and it is pronounced vey da
@@markcornish2519 thanks for the correction on the pronunciation. Stargell played more first base during the 69’s so he’s on my first base video. Funny story about Howard. He was #20, but I screwed that section of the video up so badly that I erased it and made it a top 19 video. Thanks for watching.
@FreeSportsCards-c8r I looked it up, Willie stargell played 50 games or less at 1st base through 1971. The first year he played more than 100 games at 1st base was 1972
Frank Howard put up phenomenal stats despite being surrounded by a lineup of automatic outs on the Senators. On the Dodgers he played in a stadium very difficult for power hitters. The guy was an awesome hitter and deserves to be in the top ten. In a normal stadium and surrounded by an average lineup Howard would have been hitting 50 home runs every season.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r In 1961 Frank Howard chipped a bone in his elbow banging it on the dugout wall after striking out when with the Dodgers. He was mostly a first baseman when he joined the hapless Senators and became one of the scariest hitters in the AL.
Baltimore born Bonus baby Al Kaline won the batting championship in 1955 with a .340 batting average at the age of 20. He was an outstanding right fielder with a strong arm. He played his entire career with the Tigers. Since he was a bonus baby he never spent a year in the minor leagues and became the youngest player to win a batting title since Tiger great Ty Cobb in 1907.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r The original bonus rule was from 1946 to 1950, and again from 1953 to 1957. There were fifty seven bonus players. Four of those players went on to have Hall of Fame careers: Al Kaline, Harmon Killebrew, Sandy Koufax, Roberto Clemente. Killebrew did spend time in the minors. Other notable bonus players were were Dick Groat, Clete Boyer, Lindy McDaniel, and Johnny Antonelli. There was a new bonus rule in 1962. Catfish Hunter and Tony La Russa were bonus babies under the 1962 rule. Pirate third basemen Bob Bailey, Clete Boyer,. Wayne Causey, Moe Drabowsky, Joey Jay, Mike McCormick Billy O'Dell are some of the babies. Dick Wakefield was the first of the "Bonus Babies"
IMO Kaline would have been in the top two defensively . Best arm out of all of em . You had to see it live to believe it . He made Bo Jackson’s throws look like rainbows . And we know Bo had a cannon . Al had a laser
What a list!!! Great video! Really informative and interesting! Congratulations on over 1000 subscribers! I’m Mark btw one of your original subscribers. Just changed my UA-cam username! Have a great day!⚾️
Another point not mentioned. This decade was the era of the pitcher so these players stand out as more exceptional than players from other decades. The NL players had to face Koufax, Marichal, Drysdale, and feel the sting of Bob Gibson’s chin music.
@ for reasons that I don’t understand, pitchers were especially dominant in ‘68. Hey, every time that I see your screen name I wonder what it means. Is there a story behind acornsucks?
@@dennisbedard9850 So true, Billy Williams hit the N L. Greats, 10 hrs off Bob Gibson and he threw at or near him a great deal. Bottom of 10th opening day 1971 Williams leading off homered to break up 1 to 1 dual of Gibson and Ferguson Jenkins. I ran home in 7th grade and caught the at bat. You can Google it of course. Great moment
In 1963 the strike zone was expanded and the pitching mount was elevated in order to help the pitchers. The offensive numbers in 1961 and 1962 were noticeable higher but the reason was the expansion, since teams were added in both leagues. It's a fact that the addition of teams diluted the pitching quality and these two season were not the exception. The fact that 1961 and 1998 seasons were expansion and home run breaking season is not a coincidence. @acornsucks2111
I really started watching sports when I was 7 yrs old in 1965... and although I was very young, I still got to see some of the greatest baseball players ever... including some of the best pitchers as well. Today's present decade of outfield ballplayers can't even begin to compare with the greats of that era... and just think, with all respect to Juan Soto, Bryce Harper, Shohei Ohtani and others... how much would Mickey Mantle, Lou Brock, Roberto Clemente, Al Kaline, Carl Yastrzemski, Frank Robinson, Hank Aaron and finally Wille Mays be worth (on the open market) if they were playing today while putting out those amazing offensive and defensive numbers??????
I wondered if Willie Stargell should have been there. I checked his stats and the 70’s were really his greatest decade. Though he did well in the 60’s, too.
Willie Played first base more than he played the outfield. Along with Clemente, He was also part of the "all brothers" team the Pirates started in 1971.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8rAlso tore tendon in his left shoulder in collision in ‘58 which affected his uppercut for rest of his career when batting left handed … (or maybe it was right handed).
I definitely agree with your top 4. I wish Lou Brock had been higher because his impact on a ballgame from his base stealing was similar to what separated Maury Wills as the top shortstop. Curt Flood was much better on defense than Brock and considered second only to Willie Mays among centerfielders on defense alone in the 1960s. I reallly liked seeing the baseball cards and remember having many of them from Topps bubble gum packs. Most of my Topps cards were from 1964 through 1967 with the stats of the prior year. I also liked seeing your Willie Davis card because my first baseballl cards in the 1960s were just like it from the back of Jell-o or Post cereal boxes. I remember being young shopping with my mom picking flavors based on the baseball card that could be cut out from the back of the box. Fun list. Cards fan.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r I did keep them however I sold them in 1991 along with a Lionel trainset and accessories from the 1956-1967 era. The story is that after moving to a new house in 1991 my wife said for a second year in a row there would be no family vacation trip due to expenses. I have always enjoyed travel and at that time it was a road trip with three kis each summer. I told my wife that I would come up with the money and sold it all for a great week and half trip around Florida. No regrets but still enjoy seeing the old cards on shows like yours. I still like Baseball and its history but those were the days.
I has Spahn's autograph when he was managing the Cardinals AAA team Tulsa Oilers in '66 or '67. And a bunch of others that were with the Cardinals organization then.
Why Clemente was a bonus baby. His bonus baby status is confusing because of the Dodgers' rule breaking. As Clemente's bonus was larger than $4,000, he was considered a bonus baby. The Dodgers tried to hide him and lost to the Pirates under rule number 5. The bonus rule said that when a major league team signed a player to a contract with a signing bonus in excess of $4,000 , the team had to keep that player on their 25-man active roster for two full seasons, Failure to comply with the rule would result in the team losing the rights to that player's contract, and the player would then be exposed to the waiver wire. The Dodgers hid Clemente on their Montreal Royals affiliate where he played sparingly. The Pirate scout found out about Roberto's baby bonus status and the rule breaking. The Pirates made Clemente the first selection of the Rule 5 draft that took place on November 22, 1954.
Billy Williams did hit less than 20 Homers in 1960 ( he hit 2) so it is misleading to say he never hit less than 20 per season for the decade. Granted he only played 12 games but he did play in the 1960 season. Where as I think it is a great and well thought out list , I think it would have been better served to make it best 20 or even best 21. Frank Howard should be top 19( 288 he and 853 RBI)but that would have knocked off Brock who was a World Series monster (legend). With 21 choices Matty Alou a two time batting champion could be included. Also a special mention should be made about Tony Conigliaro. Tony was only 22 when he had already hit 104 her in his first four seasons. We can only speculate what he would have accomplished if he hadn't sustained that horrible eye injury . He still finished with 124 hr in less than five full seasons. WAR is always important to consider not just for Willie Mays.😊
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Howard was in the 20 th spot but I butchered the audio and had to delete it. Stargell played more innings at 1st base during the decade so he is in my 1st baseman’s video. Thank you very much for watching.
Mickey was a fine player, but more a product of New York hype than an all time great. 7 seems about right to me, who would you place him above on this list?
@@RandallDenison Mickey was a fine player, but only white people think that he and Dimaggio were alltime greats. The pro-white media are powerful, and I saw Mantle's entire career. I think he is appropriately placed at #7.
Love your videos. I would have liked for you to have listed “the best” outfielders by position rather than all outfielders. I saw all these guys play and think Maris should be higher. He played in 7 World Series in the 60s. His focus was winning games by moving runners and playing great defense.
The hard part about baseball in regards to making these videos is that the players move from position to position throughout their careers, even week to week sometimes. In a lot of cases it would be hard to pinpoint a player to a specific outfield position. Thanks for watching and for sharing your opinions.
@@raymondpierotti8414 Mari’s was still with the Yankees in 1964. He played center field in the World Series against the Cardinals that year. In fact, it was his play in that series that convinced Cardinal management to trade for him in 1966. He played for the Cardinals in the 1967 and 1968 World Series.
@@MrYankeefoll Good catch. I should have looked up the year. I remember him being excellent for the Cardinals in the World series but bollocksed the year.
If Mantle had played in any other ballpark besides Yankee Stadium his HR, RBI and runs would have bumped up about 20%. This surely would have put him in the top 3.
Great list, and I commend you for including vastly underrated players like Allison, Callison and Wynn. But why did you choose 19? 20 would have been a good round number. I nominate Frank Howard or Tommy Davis.
LOL. It was originally going to be 20 but while editing I realized that I messed up the audio of the guy that was 20th, so I eliminated it and made it a top 19 list. Number 20 was Howard.
Great list, Tony Conigliaro would have to be on my list (even though his best season was 1970) his 5 years were worthy) also I'd have Oliva higher. You could have said the top 7 are 7 of the greatest player of all time! They are locked in as the top 7 regardless of the order, Mays is #1 on I would hope everyone's list.
A MAYS ING. Saw him play many times at Candlestick. Far and away the best. I listened to the game his homer won between Spahn and Marichal. Marichal was the best pitcher of the 60’s.
Very cool that you were a fan when these guys were in their primes. I made a video of '60's pitchers and although Marichal didn't get the top spot, I deducted that putting Marichal, Gibson or Koufax 1st, were all the correct answers. Thanks for watching.
I think Gibson and Koufax fans might disagree, Strangely, the first time I saw Mays play (1959( he dropped a fly ball trying to make one of his basket catches, Cepeda was the star in that game hitting a home run far above my head in the left field bleachers. That was against the Braves and Spahn hit the winning home run. Shame Warren was such a racist, even while playing with many great black players (Aaron, Bruton, Covington).
al kaline is the youngest player to ever win a batting title===== you left off matty alou who in 4 straight years hit 342--338--332--331 and won a batting title. he had a lifetime 307 average.
Excellent video! A few comments. You mentioned it briefly in the Jim Wynn comment. Perhaps in no other decade was there as much differece and variations in ballparks as in the '60's. That and the extreme rules in effect from 1963 to 1968 greatly favoring pitching can make evaluations difficult. This is why Mays' numbers in '65 and '66, great as they are, are even BETTER in context! Top 2 offensive seasons of the decade by any player. The top 3 are easy and won't get much disagreement from most people. #4 just HAS to be Mantle!!! Injuries impact his value, otherwise he'd be fighting Mays for #1. From 1960-1962 he was the BEST player in baseball. After that, I put Yaz ahead of Clemente and Kaline. Because of his tragic death Clemente is somewhat overrated. Didn't walk much and got a LOT of help from Forbes Field! Still a great player. Willie Davis, Flood, and Pinson are similar players. Davis was the best of the three. If he played in Crosley or Sportsmans rather than Dodger Stadium he'd have been an easy HOFer with 3000+ hits and about a .320 lifetime BA.
One more: Jim Wynn was a GREAT player!! Better than Callison, Allison, Oliva and Colavito. I know how much you like Bobby Bonds....Wynn is the same guy but even BETTER!!! More power, better defense. He's about 10 spots too low here. Remember...THE ASTRODOME ! Thanks again! Very well done.
You make some good points regarding Clemente and some of the stadiums that these guys play in. I think that it's unfortunate that all of the stadiums are cookie cutter twins with no personality , for the most part. I agree that Mantle may have been the best player from 60-62, maybe even through '64, but I still think that over the course of the decade I have him in roughly the correct spot. Thanks for watching and especially for your break downs and comments. You have a lot of great knowledge!!
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r I guess what we're disagreeing about most isn't simply the rankings, it's your comments about them. You've put Clemente in the "God Tier" as it were, grouping him with your top 3 and putting Mantle in the tier with Kaline and Yaz. Even though it's only a half decade, and casting no aspersions on anyone, Mickey Mantle is a God Tier player, and his numbers in the early 60's show that. Yaz, Kaline, and Clemente are in the "All Time Great" tier, below the "God" tier. Of the three, Yaz is my highest ranking on the list b/c he was EASILY the best player in baseball in '67 and '68! If you put his '70 season in '69, that would be three years in a row as THE BEST in the game and he'd be giving Frank Robinson and Mantle a real battle for 3rd on this list. As great as Clemente and Kaline were, they never, for even a moment could be considered the Best Player in Baseball. This ALSO shows how great Mays was!!! Aaron was clearly the 2nd best player in the Game for the decade, but he was never thought of as the BEST player in the game except for VERY late, 1969, which wasn't even close to his best season!!! They were obscured by Mays. So, my ranking is: Mays, Aaron, Frank R., Mantle, Yaz, Clemente, Kaline, Willie Davis, Jim Wynn, Roger Maris (arguably the best player in baseball in 1960). You've really overrated Tony Oliva!!! Talk about a guy that was ALWAYS hurt...along with a very short peak, and he was below average defensively. Near the bottom of this group. It's SO interesting, his career averages are very close to what I project Willie Davis would have had, except Willie's career was MUCH longer, he stole a LOT more bases, and was one of the greatest defensive CFers of the era, along with Flood and Mays. Anyway, that's enough out of me. Looking forward to the next one!
The 1960s was when baseball was baseball. The personalities were great. The players were great maybe because I was a kid then I looked up to them and respected baseball. Baseball is followed off my list of favorite sports since the 1970s. What happened to baseball?
For the 1960's Yastrzemski should be number one, I remember in 1968 (The year of the pitcher) he saved face for The American League and baseball by being the only player to hit .300. Arraon, Mays, Mantle were better overall, but in the 60's it was Yaz. Robinson may have been better, but they were the 2 best of that decade.
These lists keep getting bigger and bigger, so it gets harder to find omissions, and I'm not sure I'd change anything here. However, if you wanted to make it an even 20, I'd consider throwing in Frank Howard and his 288 home runs during the decade, despite playing over half of it at Dodger Stadium, a notorious pitchers park at the time.
@@big8dog887 this is hilarious. Why would someone make a top 19 list and not make it an even 20? Well, because when I was editing it I realized that I made some glaring eras with the 20th player. So I deleted him. Guess who it was. Howard. Thanks for watching. I made this one longer because there are so many outfielders. I see future videos being shorter.
I would like to give an honorable mention to Harmon Killebrew. I know he doesn't belong in your list as he played mostly in the infield. His batting average was only average but he hit a lot of home runs and he was consistent and had a long career. He was a feared hitter.
Let's compare Kaline and Clemente. Clemente hit .317 over his career, had 12 gold gloves and scored about 3 more runs per year than Kaline. Kaline had a .297 average and 10 gold gloves. On the other hand, Kaline had 159 more home runs and fewer trips per home run. Kaline had more RBIs and fewer trips per RBI. Kaline had a higher slugging percentage, a higher fielding percentage, a higher on base percentage, a higher OPS, more stolen bases and a higher stolen base success rate. Kaline was better.
Kaline was a wonderful hitter, but not great as a fielder. He had a strong arm, but was slow. Interesting that you find a good, but not spectacular white player, better than an alltime great black player.
@ You must be from Pittsburgh. If Kaline was slow, how did he have more stolen bases than Clemente and a higher success rate? How did he have a higher slugging percentage which implies more extra base hits. Not as great a fielder? Kaline had 10 gold gloves and missed out on 12 because one year he broke his collar bone while catching a fly ball off the bat of Yogi Berra and one year he was stuck in center field. Kaline was better.
@@raymondpierotti8414It’s interesting that the player’s color is so important you. Blacks and latinos have been prominently figured in his lists, many ranking near or at the top. So stop with the nonsense.
@@ron88303 This is the first time I encountered this presenter. I am not from Pittsburgh. I have simply noted the decline of US Born black players in MLB over the past 30 years. Baseball is the sport for white people who now dominate it.
I love Clemente and Mays but I would've picked Sandy Koufax for MVP in 1965 & 1966. Who would've been #20? Vada Pinson, Frank Howard, Tommy Davis, Rico Carty????
Willie isn't a bad choice. Offensively, he would have a good year, then a bad year. He finally figured it out in 1969, hitting .300 for three straight years and leveling off to be a .280 & .290 guy. But one thing that was always great about Willie -- his defense. Fast as lightning, he could run down any fly ball hit into the alleys. I can still recall Vin Scully's calls on those. It's unfortunate that Willie D. is widely remembered today for dropping two flies in a game in the '66 World Series when the sun got in his eyes.
Enjoyed your video. You couldn't list a 20th? Strikes me that you did nt see most of these players perform in the 60s or their prime years. Had you, your list would change based on their impact their team. Good job
Thank you for the kind words. I imagine that my opinions would have changed had I seen these guys play but I am not sure if that would be for the better. I might have picked up a lot of inaccurate biases. I feel like I might have dinged Yaz because I have heard that he wasn't the nicest person and had I not heard that I might have moved him up a spot. I had a 20th but when I was making the video I botched it and didn't realize it until I was editing. # 20 was Frank Howard. Thanks for watching.
If it were 1960 and I had to pick a player to be in my outfield for the following 10 years, it would probably be Willie Mays. That's taking into account the home ballpark, fielding, and injury ability to stay injury free. I think Frank Robinson and Yaz are probably the most overlooked players, given that criteria. Kaline might be the most overrated.
The Cubs trade of Lou Brock for pitcher Ernie Broglio was unfavorably compared to the Red Sox selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees for cash to support some muscial theater production that the owner had invested in. A bit unfair in that Ernie had good years with the Cardinals, but something that Cards fans still rub into Cubs fans to this day.
@@billgrandone3552 thanks for that input. It’s amazing to me when you look at Brocks numbers and how he seemed to flip a switch when he got to St Louis. He wasn’t great in Chicago.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r I'm a Dodger fan in Cardinal Nation land so as a a teen in the 60s I went to games when LA was in St. Louis and the greatest treats I remember were watching Gibson and Koufax or Drysdale pitted against each other and Wille Davis and Maury Wills stealing bases and Brock then doing the same. I met Lou, Gibby, and Curt Flood at the Sports Writers Dinner in 1964 and my table was next to Stan Musials though I didn't meet him or ask for an autograph. I was too awed to be within ten feet of his seat.
respect podcasters love and enthusiasm for baseball but conclusions are dated. WAR is the most important stat. Yaz is higher than Clemente , kaline nearly the same and Mickey mantle's is much larger.to say the top 4 are in a different tier is wrong
thank you for sharing your opinions. I do not use WAR because I think that it takes the fun out of analyzing all of the other numbers. I did see enough to notice that even with WAR Aaron and Mays are way ahead of the others if you only use stats from the decade of the '60's, which is what this video is about. Thank you for watching .
You say the top 5 are in a category by themselves. Why do you think Mantle doesn't deserve to be there? He was faster than Willie Mays before he had his accident . He had more power than Clemente and comparable HR numbers to Robinson,. His name is mentioned with Ted Williams ,Ruth, Dimaggio, Mays and Aaron as the possible greatest player ever.. Also how does Stargel compare to Callison and Allison' Tommy Davis won 2 batting Title s during the sixties and led the Ny Mets in hitting in 1967 with a 300 avg,
@@josephshields2922 like Gerald said below, despite mantle being one of the greatest of all time, and possible the best switch hitter ever, his numbers really faded those last few years. I remember hearing Mantle say that he especially regretted playing that last year, because it dropped his career batting average below .300.
Mantle was excellent, but overhyped because he played for the Yankees and had the NY media lauding his every move. When he and Maris played together I clearly thought Maris was the better player.
I'm not convinced by your argument that Mays wasn't Superman because he didn't win a Gold Glove every year of the 1960s. In fact, he won a Gold Glove 12 consecutive seasons, from 1957 to 1968, a record that has never been duplicated. It's true he stopped getting the Gold Gloves, along with strong consideration in the MVP voting, in 1969 and later years, but by then Mays was 38 years old. 😊
@FreeSportsCards-c8r One more fun fact I stumbled upon after posting my comment: The Gold Glove Awards started in 1957, so Mays won a Gold Glove each of the first 12 years of the award. If the Gold Gloves had started prior of 1957, would Mays have won more of them? Quite likely!
I get the gold gloves pattern. Mays was very flashy, but made errors on routine plays. I saw him drop more balls than anyone else on this list and as he aged this became more obvious.
Can someone tell this guy that Pinson's first name was pronounced Vayda not Vahda? What I find interesting is that 12 of these players are Black and that 8 of them were American born Black men. This illustrates what is wrong with baseball today. Can anyone name 8 American born black players who are excellent in baseball today. There are probably more Japanese players who are stars that American blacks, who primarily concentrate on the NFL and NBA today. Baseball is dying as a sport because it is now dominated by mediocre white players. One final point I think you should have found a spot for Willie Davis' teamates Tommy Davis, who was a much more feared hitter than Wille during the 1960's. Here is one more fact for you, during their time of excellence that LA Dodgers started 6 US born blacks, Willie and Tommy Davis in the outfield, Jim Gilliam, Maury Wills and Charlie Neal in the infield, and John Roseboro as catcher. The SF Giants started 4 American born blacks plus Orlando Cepeda and Felipe Alou: Willie Mays Willie Strickland, Willie McCovey, and Jim Ray Hart, and all were very good hitters. No MLB teams today can claim lineups like that.
You might want to recheck your arithmetic. Average attendance during the sixties was about 14,500 (roughly). In 2023-2024, it was 29,000+, even with all those mediocre white players you refer to. Not to mention that the league is more integrated than it was in the 60s, with Latino players more than making up for the drop in black players (sorry about that). Some markets have increased and some have decreased, but overall it’s far from dying, contrary to your claim.
@@ron88303 I am not the only person noticing this. Simply Google baseball and decline. Overall viewership, especially on television is way down. It still thrives in a few areas, but at Universities, baseball is very much a lower echelon sport. It has become a game of homeruns and strikeouts, which mans minimal action on the field. Look at the Oakland A's, the most appealing teams of the 70's and 80's is shutting down operations and moving to Sacramento. I suspect your average attendance is inflated by a few stadia in big cities like LA and NY. The minor leagues barely exist today.
This for sure is not the greatest outfielder correct order. This is the greatest outfielder based on hitting. Which is ok if you note that.. There no friggin way Clemente is not #1 or #2. If you do a greatest outfielder. I would put him ahead of anyone as an outfielder. With a very very close 2nd to Mays. And when you add offense I think Clemente is actually 2nd. Ahead of Aaron. Because of defense. Saved runs are more important than runs produced.. that stat Clemente is # 1 based on the fact that his arm actually prevented sacrifice flys to right field. Players would not test his arm on flys to right field that normally would score from 3rd base 99% of the time. Also advancing to 3rd base on flys to right field was non existent. I don't know the actual stat but I'm guessing on average he saved 1.5 to 2 runs a game
It's a list based on both offense and defense combined. Clemente was great in the field and I did take into account his 9 gold gloves. Thank you for watching and especially for sharing your opinions.
@FreeSportsCards-c8r I have never liked that way of rating position players. That makes Barry Bonds a great outfielder. Which is a joke. Tremendous batter, mediocre fielder at best... Should never be considered a great outfielder. The gold glove is also a friggin joke because hitting effects who gets a gold "Glove".
@@raymondpierotti8414 I loved Barry Bonds when he was in Pittsburgh. Pre roids. He was a great hitter not so many home runs. But he was not great in the outfield... Average to slightly above at best. And he was no better in SF. In the early 90s When the Pirates were in the playoffs vs Atlanta final game. I blame 3 people for that 9 th innings loss. First Pirates manager Jim Leyland for bringing in Stan Belinda in (who didn't do well against Atlanta all season and in the playoffs). It was one inning. He should have brought in knuckleballer Time Wakefield who Atlanta couldn't touch. Second Stan Belinda who was great all season but not against Atlanta. And Bonds candy arm along with lackluster charging the ball that let a very slow, base runner, Sid Bream score. Reason Bonds is # 3 is he is only responsible for the Atlanta winning run... That kind of play was common Bonds Career . Not that he couldn't, it was more that he wouldn't... Nothing like Roberto that played hard every day. And Bonds contemporary Andy Van Slyke was a much better fielder than was bonds. The Pirates had great outfielders over the years. Some good to great hitters too. Clemente, Parker, Oliver, Van Slyke, Stargell, Marte, even Clynes. Bonds is behind all of these as a fielder. There were so many occasions that wouldn't show up in stats because he didn't play hard like these others did. Yes Bonds is one of the best hitters of all time. Both pre and roid era Bonds... Just many more home runs during roid era. If the Gold glove was truly based on defense, he may have had one or two, not 8.
Kaline, Clemente and Olivia should be adjacent because they are exactly the same player: elite range in the field, cannon for an arm, good speed but few steals, low strikeouts, .300 b.a., good but not great power. Slide all three right behind Vada Pinson, giving him preference because center field is a more competitive position. Put Frank Howard above Pinson because he was arguably the greatest homer threat of the decade, playing on putrid offensive teams. Willie Davis doesn't belong in the top 20.
Howard was a monstrous threat as a home run hitter but he was, in the opinion of many, a one dimensional player. Average at best in batting average, below average speed, below average defensively.
Do you seriously think that the 1960'sLA Dodgers were a "Putrid offensive team". I saw them regularly and they had one of the finest offenses of the time, based on speed and situational hitting. Tommy Davis was much more feared than Frank Howard as a hitter. Ron Fairley started ahead of Howard because he was not a statue on Defense.
Let me know in the comments if I missed anyone or if you would arrange the list differently. I love the interaction and that is what makes sports fun!!
I’m with you. I don’t even follow the modern game.
The 60’s was my favorite decade for baseball !
60-78ish.
@@robertbenefiel2781 a bunch of iron men for sure, great stars. So many teams were stacked HOF'ers, reds, cards,cubs, giants ect
The game was still pure then even with the expansion. I can hardly watch a game today but loved baseball back then.
There were so many great players in the decade that played OF and/or other positions. Pete Rose, Rod Carew Reggie Jackson, Harmon Killebrew, Dick Allen etc. There were so many great pitchers during that time as well. I agree, and have always said, the 60s had the greatest players.
@@kcash6359 Not even close to the dynasties and excitement of 1970's baseball, but nice try anyway.
I saw all these players at one time or another. At my first game at old Candlestick park I saw Vada Pinson hit a homer. That was 1960. The 60's were an exciting time in MLB. Players were not paid so much and were part of the neighborhood. Denny McLain taught organ lessons in my suburb of Detroit. Mickey Lolich and I worked in the same restaurant. All these guys had to work in the off-season to pay their bills. Nowadays they probably have clauses in their contracts to prevent them from working less they get hurt somehow. It was a great time to be a baseball fan!
@@kevinwalsh9253 it was a different era and it was much easier to relate to the players than it is now, when they all have body guards and wind sign autographs even for kids. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge.
Grateful and happy to say I got to watch all of the National Leaguers on the list.
@@patotmaster7747 I’m jealous that you and many others were able to see these guys play in their prime.
I think the National League had the best players. At least until Frank Robinson was traded to Baltimore of the American League. So much talent throughout the NL.
Good summation of Roger Maris -- 2 MVPs and a long standing HR Record should have put him in the HOF
Thank you and thank you for watching.
Agreed.
Good list. I saw Willie Mays once in Albuquerque just before an expedition game. I was driving bye and he was on his way into our minor league park. I slammed on the brakes, rolled down the window, and yelled, "say hey Willie!" He grinned real big, I got out of the car and shook hands with the man.
@@louspring6872 thanks for sharing that awesome story!
Really glad you made this a Top 19 and not a Top 10. So many terrific outfielders in that decade, you were able to highlight some terrific players who nonetheless would have fallen short of a Top 10 list. Thanks!
@@tvcdboombox1 my pleasure and thanks for the kind words. There were too many to only do a top 10 list. Hopefully it didn’t show, but my voice was a getting a little hoarse at the end.
Wow, I am so happy for you and your channel. You are killing it, Steve! Keep it going. Next goal: 100k!!!!!
@@PackAddictRips lol. I’m not holding my breath for 100,000!! Thanks for the enthusiastic support, Jason!
It's a shame that Pinson isn't in the HOF.
@@HawklordLI thanks for watching. I think he was the highest guy on my list not in the hall.
It has to do with the years he played with Robinson and he years he did not. Robinson made Vada a great hitter and when he left he was just a good hitter. Pitchers did not want to face Frank so Vada got better pitches to hit.
Vada Pinson is an interesting player From 1958 when he played with Frank Robinson he put up Hall of Fame numbers. Four times he had over 200 hits and he had power in his bat too. After Frank was traded to Orioles, Vada's numbers went from great to good. He was an excellent centerfielder with speed. Starting in 1969, he became a journeyman ball player playing for the Indians, the Cardinals and the Gene Autry Angels. He never regained the greatest he had when playing with Frank.
Flood also started his career with the Reds but could never break into the regular lineup. On December 5, 1957:. he was traded to the Cardinals where he excelled as a hitter and was probably the best centerfielder in baseball while with the team. It is interesting that Flood, Pinson and Robinson all went to the same high school and ended up playing on the same team.
Another excellent list.
@@Diosprometheus thank you for your excellent insight.
You really should have at least mentioned Clemente's defensive wizardry. He was the best defensive RF that I ever saw.
I didn't mention it much other than his 9 gold gloves. Thanks for the comment and keeping me honest.
He had a rocket arm.
I remember collecting baseball cards during the 1960s. I was in awe of these outfielders and their stats!
Frank Robinson is extremely underated. Or maybe it would be better to say often overlooked in conversations about greatness.
@@jsd795 I think you might be correct. Thanks for watching.
probably because he played inn 2 different leagues.
@ good point.
@@josephshields2922 that probably has something to do with it but I'd say it has more to do with Mays, Aaron and Clemente being his contemporaries. I'd have to really think about it but off the top of my head I would say that if you took his 60's seasons and transplanted them to the 70's or 80's he would be #1 on the list.
@@jsd795 New Yory City was the hub of TV and journalistic publications and that is why Mickey Willie and the Duke were recognized so early in their career. Hank Aaron didn't even get the attention he deserved until he got to 5oo Hr.
Vada Pinson was my favorite!! Great memories. A better game then.
@@tommcnally3646 I agree. I don’t even follow the modern game.
I had a Vada Pinson mitt! Loved that glove.
Great reporting my friend. The 60s was my favorite time for baseball. 😮
Thank you. I am jealous that I missed these guys playing in their primes.
Wow, what a great list and a reminder of just how many all-time players were a part of this era! I may have put Billy Williams and Yaz (Yaz from 67 to 70, in my opinion, was the best player in the game) up maybe a slot or two higher, but everyone listed here was a joy to watch and remember for their greatness.
I'm jealous that you and many others were able to see these guys play in their primes. Thanks for the kind words and especially for sharing your opinions.
I really love your top of lists. I don't follow baseball like many but this made me look up some of them. I was shocked that Roger Maris was not a Hall of Fame player.
@@scottspaulding2158 thanks again for being one of my original supporters.
@FreeSportsCards-c8r I'm so glad to see the channel grow. You've worked really hard to make it great
He bounced around Clevland and KC before having 3 or 4 good years with the Yankees. He's remembered for that one big season and some folks think he was a 1 trick pony. He had a good glove but he had less than 300 homers so he's one of those guys who just fall short. 400 homers used to be the prerequsite that's why it took Gil Hodges so long to get in. Colovito was better,
@ thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Vada Pinson should be in the hall of fame. He was overshadowed by Mays but was just a fine center fielder.
Sweet swinging Billy Williams , Mr.Consistently, the Greatest
Great list !!!
@@RWildekrav66 thank you.
I don't know why, but I always forget he was a LH hitter.
@@kcash6359beautiful swing, could get around on anybodies fastball.
I was glad to see Lou Brock on the list. He's the most artistic base stealer I have ever seen. He knew that the size of the lead is not the most important thing. He got up to speed very quickly but his real secret was was, he was preternaturally good at getting a jump. Once he got a good jump there was no way that anyone could throw him out. And then he would tie a ribbon on it with the popup slide.
@@etaoinshrdlu7247 thanks for the great information!!
Willie was my idol when I was a kid. Saw him play at Candlestick many times in the 60s. Good times.
@@peterkoulouris8900 I’m jealous of those memories that you have. 😎
As a child l grew up idolizing Lou Brock. Long after he retired l was able to meet him in person. He was even a nicer man than he was great baseball player, and he is a hall of fame player.
@@othgmark1 others have made similar comments regarding his personality. Thanks for watching.
👍 Some mighty fine outfielders there , , N.L.12 / A.L.7 , , i liked what you said about the top four being at completely different level , , of course when those other 11 national league outfielders came to town to play my all time favorite team and player, Roberto Clemente and the Pirates , , we always expected fireworks , , they were good at everything, hitting, fielding, throwing ,running , , i think you had the top four in the right order , , maybe Bill Virdon could have got an honorable mention ( but then where do you stop) 😉 thank you for your enthusiasm , you make us feel good about our beloved game of baseball
@@johnc.mitchelljr.2716 thank you for the incredibly kind words!!!!!
Good list, I would have Brock higher but I am a Cardinals fan. I like the baseball cards, really cool and brings back memories.
@@MerryHoneyBee-xc4tl thanks for watching! 😎
@@MerryHoneyBee-xc4tl love your screen name!
I'm a cub fan and I would place Brock higher as well. At his best he was getting 200 hits a year, walking 100 times and stole bases well into his middle late 30's. Decent kind man. RIP.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r yeah it was picked out by utube I think. It rhymes with my first name and I like honey so I kept it.
Mostly overlooked is Roger played in 7 world series in the 60s'
The pronunciation of Vada Pinson first name is a "long A (like gate) V Ada". Really good player. When he and Frank Robinson played for the Reds they were a feared duo.
@@johnforet216 thanks for the correction.
Also botched Felipe Alou and Al Kaline's name.
Jim Wynn was known as "the toy cannon'. I like your top 5. Those are the 5 in the exact order I would have had.
@@carlkolchak4437 great minds think alike. 😂🤣. thanks for watching.
a fantastic lineup ! thanks
@@richarddenny5340 thank you for watching!!
A lot of great ball player's on this list, loved watching pitchers sweat trying to get Billy Williams out, and him on his hot streaks where he was good for 3-4 line drives a game for 2-3 wks at a time. A iron man who peaked 1969-73, not a flashy fielder or huge arm but can't recall him throwing to the wrong base, or a bad move on the base paths. Decent kind man, at nearing 86, most of his 69 Cubs teammates have become a ghost team.
It's more than a little bit sad that so many of these guys have already passed, many of them at a rather young age. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Love the cards. I remember having most of these. Even the cereal box cards. Pinson played in shadow of Mays, Aaron, Robinson unfortunately
@@tommcnally3646 very cool that you owned so many of those cards. I only had a few.
And Clemente!!!
I’d switch 3 and 4, but great list.
@@gavinsheridan4680 thank you !
Agreed, defensively, Clemente was the best.
I agree, and wanted to see if it was mentioned before posting it myself. Clemente's superb defensive skills are what earn him a spot in the top 3.
Willie was certainly the 60's best player overall. MVP's are another story.
@@acornsucks2111 thanks for watching.
I agree. Clemente, probably the best defensively.
Willie Mays was the greatest player ever. He was more than a five tool player, he was one of the absolute best at every tool. Only Aaron and Ruth come close
Johnny Callison had an arm like a catapult
@@kendrach3314 thanks for that.
What a legendary group! Only Tony Oliva, Felipe Alou, Billy Williams, and Carl Yaztremski are still alive.
@@waheisel yes. I noticed that she I was researching this and wondered if they would be willing to answer mail with an autograph. I don’t think that Yaz is very good that way though. Thanks for watching.
People forget what a great era for baseball that was. Starting in the '50's MLB started playing all those great Negro league and Latin baseball stars. And the list was both deep and had pinnacle level players like Mays, Robinson, Clemente, Mantle, Musiial, Williams, and Aaron. And then there are the pitchers: Koufax, Marichall, Jenkins, Spahn, Roberts, Gaylord Perry, that list is also nearly endless. It truly was the greatest era for MLB.
@@nhennessy6434 I think that you are right I’m jealous of those that got to experience it. Thanks for watching. 😎
I guess it takes an old guy who grew up in San Francisco to know who was going to be number 1 before the video even began. However, since I started paying attention to baseball in 1967, Carl Yastrzemski, having won a triple crown that would not be achieved again for another 45 years and was left handed (as am I) was a major inspiration. I think one of the most interesting aspects of baseball is that it is still basically the same game so that feats of these players stands up to posterity.
@@stilllearning9590 is it the same game? The numbers that some of the guys from this era of the 60’s and 70’s put up, especially the pitchers, will never even be touched again. Thanks for watching and for the comment. 😎
Not a bad list, I would have Lou brock about #10. I would consider Willie stargell, Willie Horton, Tommy Davis and Frank Howard, maybe even Matty alou. Vada pinson should get hall of fame consideration and it is pronounced vey da
@@markcornish2519 thanks for the correction on the pronunciation. Stargell played more first base during the 69’s so he’s on my first base video. Funny story about Howard. He was #20, but I screwed that section of the video up so badly that I erased it and made it a top 19 video. Thanks for watching.
@FreeSportsCards-c8r I looked it up, Willie stargell played 50 games or less at 1st base through 1971. The first year he played more than 100 games at 1st base was 1972
Frank Howard put up phenomenal stats despite being surrounded by a lineup of automatic outs on the Senators. On the Dodgers he played in a stadium very difficult for power hitters. The guy was an awesome hitter and deserves to be in the top ten. In a normal stadium and surrounded by an average lineup Howard would have been hitting 50 home runs every season.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r In 1961 Frank Howard chipped a bone in his elbow banging it on the dugout wall after striking out when with the Dodgers. He was mostly a first baseman when he joined the hapless Senators and became one of the scariest hitters in the AL.
Baltimore born Bonus baby Al Kaline won the batting championship in 1955 with a .340 batting average at the age of 20. He was an outstanding right fielder with a strong arm. He played his entire career with the Tigers. Since he was a bonus baby he never spent a year in the minor leagues and became the youngest player to win a batting title since Tiger great Ty Cobb in 1907.
@@Diosprometheus again, thanks for your excellent insight. The bonus baby rule was an odd and risky rule.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r The original bonus rule was from 1946 to 1950, and again from 1953 to 1957. There were fifty seven bonus players. Four of those players went on to have Hall of Fame careers: Al Kaline, Harmon Killebrew, Sandy Koufax, Roberto Clemente. Killebrew did spend time in the minors. Other notable bonus players were were Dick Groat, Clete Boyer, Lindy McDaniel, and Johnny Antonelli.
There was a new bonus rule in 1962. Catfish Hunter and Tony La Russa were bonus babies under the 1962 rule. Pirate third basemen Bob Bailey, Clete Boyer,. Wayne Causey, Moe Drabowsky, Joey Jay, Mike McCormick Billy O'Dell are some of the babies.
Dick Wakefield was the first of the "Bonus Babies"
@ great information. Thank you for sharing your impressive knowledge!!
@@Diosprometheus Clemente was not a bonus baby. The Pirates got him from the Dodgers minor league system.
IMO Kaline would have been in the top two defensively . Best arm out of all of em . You had to see it live to believe it . He made Bo Jackson’s throws look like rainbows . And we know Bo had a cannon . Al had a laser
Tommy Davis, although shortened by injuries was the best hitter in the early 60's. 1962 - 357 avg 27 home runs and 157 RBI's. 230 hits!
@@mikeyposs3132 thank you for sharing that information.
What a list!!! Great video! Really informative and interesting! Congratulations on over 1000 subscribers! I’m Mark btw one of your original subscribers. Just changed my UA-cam username! Have a great day!⚾️
@@Carp1977 I love hearing from the couple of dozen originals. Thank you for the support!!
Another point not mentioned. This decade was the era of the pitcher so these players stand out as more exceptional than players from other decades. The NL players had to face Koufax, Marichal, Drysdale, and feel the sting of Bob Gibson’s chin music.
@@dennisbedard9850 I kept thinking about how these players put up huge numbers in the supposed pitchers era. Great information. Thank you.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r It didn't seem to be a pitchers era in the early sixties, but I've never done an analysis.
@ for reasons that I don’t understand, pitchers were especially dominant in ‘68. Hey, every time that I see your screen name I wonder what it means. Is there a story behind acornsucks?
@@dennisbedard9850 So true, Billy Williams hit the N L. Greats, 10 hrs off Bob Gibson and he threw at or near him a great deal. Bottom of 10th opening day 1971 Williams leading off homered to break up 1 to 1 dual of Gibson and Ferguson Jenkins. I ran home in 7th grade and caught the at bat. You can Google it of course. Great moment
In 1963 the strike zone was expanded and the pitching mount was elevated in order to help the pitchers. The offensive numbers in 1961 and 1962 were noticeable higher but the reason was the expansion, since teams were added in both leagues. It's a fact that the addition of teams diluted the pitching quality and these two season were not the exception. The fact that 1961 and 1998 seasons were expansion and home run breaking season is not a coincidence. @acornsucks2111
I really started watching sports when I was 7 yrs old in 1965... and although I was very young, I still got to see some of the greatest baseball players ever... including some of the best pitchers as well. Today's present decade of outfield ballplayers can't even begin to compare with the greats of that era... and just think, with all respect to Juan Soto, Bryce Harper, Shohei Ohtani and others... how much would Mickey Mantle, Lou Brock, Roberto Clemente, Al Kaline, Carl Yastrzemski, Frank Robinson, Hank Aaron and finally Wille Mays be worth (on the open market) if they were playing today while putting out those amazing offensive and defensive numbers??????
@@georgeanthony7282 I grew up with my Dad always asking, how much would Willie mays make if he played today. And that was back in the 80’s!
I used my J. C Higgins Bob Allison glove from 1961-1979. Still have it.
@@8044868 thanks for watching!!
I wondered if Willie Stargell should have been there. I checked his stats and the 70’s were really his greatest decade. Though he did well in the 60’s, too.
Stargell was primarily an outfielder in the 60s. He definitely would fit within this list.
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Willie Played first base more than he played the outfield. Along with Clemente, He was also part of the "all brothers" team the Pirates started in 1971.
I didn't check his 60s stats, but I was thinking the same as you.
Great list. Lost me though when you didn’t include Mantle in with the elite group of Clemente, Robinson, Aaron and Mays.
@@drewmccandless313 he tailed off at the end of the decade with those damaged knees. Thank you for watching.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8rAlso tore tendon in his left shoulder in collision in ‘58 which affected his uppercut for rest of his career when batting left handed … (or maybe it was right handed).
God bless Curt Flood.
I like the way you emphasize runs scored, no stat is more important imho.
@@BlackKaweah that’s how you win games. Thanks for the kind words and for watching.
It is important, but it’s very dependent on the quality of the lineup around you, and should be understood in that context.
I definitely agree with your top 4. I wish Lou Brock had been higher because his impact on a ballgame from his base stealing was similar to what separated Maury Wills as the top shortstop. Curt Flood was much better on defense than Brock and considered second only to Willie Mays among centerfielders on defense alone in the 1960s. I reallly liked seeing the baseball cards and remember having many of them from Topps bubble gum packs. Most of my Topps cards were from 1964 through 1967 with the stats of the prior year. I also liked seeing your Willie Davis card because my first baseballl cards in the 1960s were just like it from the back of Jell-o or Post cereal boxes. I remember being young shopping with my mom picking flavors based on the baseball card that could be cut out from the back of the box. Fun list. Cards fan.
@@larryloveless2967 thanks for watching and fir sharing your childhood memories. What ever happened to all of our old cards!!!????
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r I did keep them however I sold them in 1991 along with a Lionel trainset and accessories from the 1956-1967 era. The story is that after moving to a new house in 1991 my wife said for a second year in a row there would be no family vacation trip due to expenses. I have always enjoyed travel and at that time it was a road trip with three kis each summer. I told my wife that I would come up with the money and sold it all for a great week and half trip around Florida. No regrets but still enjoy seeing the old cards on shows like yours. I still like Baseball and its history but those were the days.
@ you’re a great family man!
Congrats on 1k!
@@timzusa thank you. I’m surprised at how quickly and suddenly it happened. Thank you for being one of the originals.
Not only did Mays hit that home run off Warren Spahn to win that 16 inning marathon game. His very first home run in 1951 was also off Warren Spahn.
I has Spahn's autograph when he was managing the Cardinals AAA team Tulsa Oilers in '66 or '67. And a bunch of others that were with the Cardinals organization then.
@@DJK-e7c I’m an autograph collector and you can count me as jealous!!
@@berean77 I didn’t know that. Thank you.
Why Clemente was a bonus baby. His bonus baby status is confusing because of the Dodgers' rule breaking. As Clemente's bonus was larger than $4,000, he was considered a bonus baby. The Dodgers tried to hide him and lost to the Pirates under rule number 5.
The bonus rule said that when a major league team signed a player to a contract with a signing bonus in excess of $4,000 , the team had to keep that player on their 25-man active roster for two full seasons, Failure to comply with the rule would result in the team losing the rights to that player's contract, and the player would then be exposed to the waiver wire. The Dodgers hid Clemente on their Montreal Royals affiliate where he played sparingly.
The Pirate scout found out about Roberto's baby bonus status and the rule breaking. The Pirates made Clemente the first selection of the Rule 5 draft that took place on November 22, 1954.
@@Diosprometheus thanks for sharing all of that.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r THANK YOU. KEEP UP THE GRAT LISTS!
Great List and pretty darn Spot On. Maybe Yaz goes up a notch and Mickey Mantle maybe up a few .Willie ( Say Hey ) Mays is the GOAT
@@stever1791 thanks for the kind words and for watching.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r Your welcome - great Video and thanks
Billy Williams did hit less than 20 Homers in 1960 ( he hit 2) so it is misleading to say he never hit less than 20 per season for the decade. Granted he only played 12 games but he did play in the 1960 season.
Where as I think it is a great and well thought out list , I think it would have been better served to make it best 20 or even best 21. Frank Howard should be top 19( 288 he and 853 RBI)but that would have knocked off Brock who was a World Series monster (legend). With 21 choices Matty Alou a two time batting champion could be included.
Also a special mention should be made about Tony Conigliaro. Tony was only 22 when he had already hit 104 her in his first four seasons. We can only speculate what he would have accomplished if he hadn't sustained that horrible eye injury . He still finished with 124 hr in less than five full seasons.
WAR is always important to consider not just for Willie Mays.😊
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Howard was in the 20 th spot but I butchered the audio and had to delete it. Stargell played more innings at 1st base during the decade so he is in my 1st baseman’s video. Thank you very much for watching.
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Willie Stargell played 703 games in the outfield vs 161 games at first base during the decade.@@FreeSportsCards-c8r
Hickey Mantle at #7 !? I'm speechless.
@@RandallDenison yeah, his production dropped off dramatically the last few years of the decades when his knees were failing him.
Mickey was a fine player, but more a product of New York hype than an all time great. 7 seems about right to me, who would you place him above on this list?
@raymondpierotti8414 you have lost your mind, Mickey is the GOAT. Fastest and lbs for lbs the strongest.
@@RandallDenison Mickey was a fine player, but only white people think that he and Dimaggio were alltime greats. The pro-white media are powerful, and I saw Mantle's entire career. I think he is appropriately placed at #7.
@@raymondpierotti8414You’re correct only if you’re talking about the sixties, which by then he was pretty broken down.
Love your videos. I would have liked for you to have listed “the best” outfielders by position rather than all outfielders. I saw all these guys play and think Maris should be higher. He played in 7 World Series in the 60s. His focus was winning games by moving runners and playing great defense.
Moving runners? LOL
The hard part about baseball in regards to making these videos is that the players move from position to position throughout their careers, even week to week sometimes. In a lot of cases it would be hard to pinpoint a player to a specific outfield position. Thanks for watching and for sharing your opinions.
Maris was the ultimate team player. He was superb on the Cardinals 1964 team.
@@raymondpierotti8414 Mari’s was still with the Yankees in 1964. He played center field in the World Series against the Cardinals that year. In fact, it was his play in that series that convinced Cardinal management to trade for him in 1966. He played for the Cardinals in the 1967 and 1968 World Series.
@@MrYankeefoll Good catch. I should have looked up the year. I remember him being excellent for the Cardinals in the World series but bollocksed the year.
If Mantle had played in any other ballpark besides Yankee Stadium his HR, RBI and runs would have bumped up about 20%. This surely would have put him in the top 3.
@@PurplePete763 good point.
Willie Davis had the most extraordinary bass voice.
Lou Brock. His numbers in the World Series are all time great. Weary of the shade he gets as a HOF player.
@@chrisweidner4768 I believe that he has the highest career World Series batting average for players with more than 20 games. Thanks for watching.
Great list, and I commend you for including vastly underrated players like Allison, Callison and Wynn. But why did you choose 19? 20 would have been a good round number. I nominate Frank Howard or Tommy Davis.
LOL. It was originally going to be 20 but while editing I realized that I messed up the audio of the guy that was 20th, so I eliminated it and made it a top 19 list. Number 20 was Howard.
Great list, Tony Conigliaro would have to be on my list (even though his best season was 1970) his 5 years were worthy) also I'd have Oliva higher. You could have said the top 7 are 7 of the greatest player of all time! They are locked in as the top 7 regardless of the order, Mays is #1 on I would hope everyone's list.
@@georgeesau3943 I was going to mention how the top 7 are all HOFers, but the video was too long already. Thank you for watching!!
A MAYS ING. Saw him play many times at Candlestick. Far and away the best. I listened to the game his homer won between Spahn and Marichal. Marichal was the best pitcher of the 60’s.
No. Koufax.
Very cool that you were a fan when these guys were in their primes. I made a video of '60's pitchers and although Marichal didn't get the top spot, I deducted that putting Marichal, Gibson or Koufax 1st, were all the correct answers. Thanks for watching.
I think Gibson and Koufax fans might disagree, Strangely, the first time I saw Mays play (1959( he dropped a fly ball trying to make one of his basket catches, Cepeda was the star in that game hitting a home run far above my head in the left field bleachers. That was against the Braves and Spahn hit the winning home run. Shame Warren was such a racist, even while playing with many great black players (Aaron, Bruton, Covington).
al kaline is the youngest player to ever win a batting title===== you left off matty alou who in 4 straight years hit 342--338--332--331 and won a batting title. he had a lifetime 307 average.
@@bradbradshaw-i4n those are impressive numbers. Thanks for sharing them.
Aaron won batting titles in '56 and '59.
Excellent video! A few comments.
You mentioned it briefly in the Jim Wynn comment. Perhaps in no other decade was there as much differece and variations in ballparks as in the '60's. That and the extreme rules in effect from 1963 to 1968 greatly favoring pitching can make evaluations difficult.
This is why Mays' numbers in '65 and '66, great as they are, are even BETTER in context! Top 2 offensive seasons of the decade by any player.
The top 3 are easy and won't get much disagreement from most people.
#4 just HAS to be Mantle!!! Injuries impact his value, otherwise he'd be fighting Mays for #1. From 1960-1962 he was the BEST player in baseball.
After that, I put Yaz ahead of Clemente and Kaline. Because of his tragic death Clemente is somewhat overrated. Didn't walk much and got a LOT of help from Forbes Field! Still a great player.
Willie Davis, Flood, and Pinson are similar players. Davis was the best of the three. If he played in Crosley or Sportsmans rather than Dodger Stadium he'd have been an easy HOFer with 3000+ hits and about a .320 lifetime BA.
One more: Jim Wynn was a GREAT player!! Better than Callison, Allison, Oliva and Colavito. I know how much you like Bobby Bonds....Wynn is the same guy but even BETTER!!! More power, better defense. He's about 10 spots too low here. Remember...THE ASTRODOME !
Thanks again! Very well done.
You make some good points regarding Clemente and some of the stadiums that these guys play in. I think that it's unfortunate that all of the stadiums are cookie cutter twins with no personality , for the most part. I agree that Mantle may have been the best player from 60-62, maybe even through '64, but I still think that over the course of the decade I have him in roughly the correct spot. Thanks for watching and especially for your break downs and comments. You have a lot of great knowledge!!
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r I guess what we're disagreeing about most isn't simply the rankings, it's your comments about them. You've put Clemente in the "God Tier" as it were, grouping him with your top 3 and putting Mantle in the tier with Kaline and Yaz. Even though it's only a half decade, and casting no aspersions on anyone, Mickey Mantle is a God Tier player, and his numbers in the early 60's show that. Yaz, Kaline, and Clemente are in the "All Time Great" tier, below the "God" tier. Of the three, Yaz is my highest ranking on the list b/c he was EASILY the best player in baseball in '67 and '68! If you put his '70 season in '69, that would be three years in a row as THE BEST in the game and he'd be giving Frank Robinson and Mantle a real battle for 3rd on this list. As great as Clemente and Kaline were, they never, for even a moment could be considered the Best Player in Baseball. This ALSO shows how great Mays was!!! Aaron was clearly the 2nd best player in the Game for the decade, but he was never thought of as the BEST player in the game except for VERY late, 1969, which wasn't even close to his best season!!! They were obscured by Mays.
So, my ranking is: Mays, Aaron, Frank R., Mantle, Yaz, Clemente, Kaline, Willie Davis, Jim Wynn, Roger Maris (arguably the best player in baseball in 1960).
You've really overrated Tony Oliva!!! Talk about a guy that was ALWAYS hurt...along with a very short peak, and he was below average defensively. Near the bottom of this group. It's SO interesting, his career averages are very close to what I project Willie Davis would have had, except Willie's career was MUCH longer, he stole a LOT more bases, and was one of the greatest defensive CFers of the era, along with Flood and Mays. Anyway, that's enough out of me. Looking forward to the next one!
The 1960s was when baseball was baseball. The personalities were great. The players were great maybe because I was a kid then I looked up to them and respected baseball. Baseball is followed off my list of favorite sports since the 1970s. What happened to baseball?
I don't even follow the modern game anymore.
For the 1960's Yastrzemski should be number one, I remember in 1968 (The year of the pitcher) he saved face for The American League and baseball by being the only player to hit .300. Arraon, Mays, Mantle were better overall, but in the 60's it was Yaz. Robinson may have been better, but they were the 2 best of that decade.
@@larryro8872 thanks for watching and sharing your opinions.
These lists keep getting bigger and bigger, so it gets harder to find omissions, and I'm not sure I'd change anything here. However, if you wanted to make it an even 20, I'd consider throwing in Frank Howard and his 288 home runs during the decade, despite playing over half of it at Dodger Stadium, a notorious pitchers park at the time.
@@big8dog887 this is hilarious. Why would someone make a top 19 list and not make it an even 20? Well, because when I was editing it I realized that I made some glaring eras with the 20th player. So I deleted him. Guess who it was. Howard. Thanks for watching. I made this one longer because there are so many outfielders. I see future videos being shorter.
You chose Frank Howard over Tommy Davis? Howard was a liability in the outfield. He was born to be a DH, 20 years too early.
Johnny Call is on !!!!😊
I would like to give an honorable mention to Harmon Killebrew. I know he doesn't belong in your list as he played mostly in the infield. His batting average was only average but he hit a lot of home runs and he was consistent and had a long career. He was a feared hitter.
@@robertjohnson4401 killebrew was great, you are correct. Like you said, more of an infielder.
Billy Williams: one of the greats.
@@argelbargel7680 thank you for watching. 😎
Great ranikings although Aaron should have been #1 and Mays #2.
Nope.
Yeah, Aaron was great but I think Mays was greater, in part because of his amazing fielding abilities. I appreciate your opinion.
Let's compare Kaline and Clemente. Clemente hit .317 over his career, had 12 gold gloves and scored about 3 more runs per year than Kaline. Kaline had a .297 average and 10 gold gloves. On the other hand, Kaline had 159 more home runs and fewer trips per home run. Kaline had more RBIs and fewer trips per RBI. Kaline had a higher slugging percentage, a higher fielding percentage, a higher on base percentage, a higher OPS, more stolen bases and a higher stolen base success rate. Kaline was better.
good points and thanks for breaking all of that down. The numbers that I used were for the 1960's only, not career stats. Thanks for watching.
Kaline was a wonderful hitter, but not great as a fielder. He had a strong arm, but was slow. Interesting that you find a good, but not spectacular white player, better than an alltime great black player.
@ You must be from Pittsburgh. If Kaline was slow, how did he have more stolen bases than Clemente and a higher success rate? How did he have a higher slugging percentage which implies more extra base hits. Not as great a fielder? Kaline had 10 gold gloves and missed out on 12 because one year he broke his collar bone while catching a fly ball off the bat of Yogi Berra and one year he was stuck in center field. Kaline was better.
@@raymondpierotti8414It’s interesting that the player’s color is so important you. Blacks and latinos have been prominently figured in his lists, many ranking near or at the top. So stop with the nonsense.
@@ron88303 This is the first time I encountered this presenter. I am not from Pittsburgh. I have simply noted the decline of US Born black players in MLB over the past 30 years. Baseball is the sport for white people who now dominate it.
You had me worried that Detroit's Al Kaline didn't make the list.
Willie Mays played in that big park, Candlestick. In Atlanta he probably would have beat the Babe.
@@MrJgarry I think Mays may have been the best ever.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r yeh, great fielder, baserunner, hitter
Mays was the absolute BEST !
@@tompapageorge3979 agreed. I think he might have been the best ever. Better than Ruth.
I love Clemente and Mays but I would've picked Sandy Koufax for MVP in 1965 & 1966. Who would've been #20? Vada Pinson, Frank Howard, Tommy Davis, Rico Carty????
Frank Howard. This was actually supposed to be a top 20 video but I botched the Howard segment and decided to make it a top 19. Thanks for asking.
Pinson was in the top 10.
Willie Davis over Tony “O”? You’ve got to be kidding me!
@@martinehrlich3908 just one man’s opinion. Thanks for watching. 😎
Willie isn't a bad choice. Offensively, he would have a good year, then a bad year. He finally figured it out in 1969, hitting .300 for three straight years and leveling off to be a .280 & .290 guy. But one thing that was always great about Willie -- his defense. Fast as lightning, he could run down any fly ball hit into the alleys. I can still recall Vin Scully's calls on those. It's unfortunate that Willie D. is widely remembered today for dropping two flies in a game in the '66 World Series when the sun got in his eyes.
@@marxlover100 thanks for sharing that great information. 😎
Willie D was much better defensively than Tony, who was another player born to be a DH.
No one could play the green monster like YAZ
@@douglasanderson147 oh man, I read a few stories about that while researching this. He sounds like a very smart man.
Enjoyed your video. You couldn't list a 20th? Strikes me that you did nt see most of these players perform in the 60s or their prime years. Had you, your list would change based on their impact their team. Good job
Thank you for the kind words. I imagine that my opinions would have changed had I seen these guys play but I am not sure if that would be for the better. I might have picked up a lot of inaccurate biases. I feel like I might have dinged Yaz because I have heard that he wasn't the nicest person and had I not heard that I might have moved him up a spot. I had a 20th but when I was making the video I botched it and didn't realize it until I was editing. # 20 was Frank Howard. Thanks for watching.
I saw all of them play and I like the list. One who might have gotten some consideration was Kaline's teammate Willie Horton.
If it were 1960 and I had to pick a player to be in my outfield for the following 10 years, it would probably be Willie Mays. That's taking into account the home ballpark, fielding, and injury ability to stay injury free. I think Frank Robinson and Yaz are probably the most overlooked players, given that criteria. Kaline might be the most overrated.
@@GalileoSmith thanks for sharing your opinions. I think Mays have been the best ever.
The Cubs trade of Lou Brock for pitcher Ernie Broglio was unfavorably compared to the Red Sox selling Babe Ruth to the Yankees for cash to support some muscial theater production that the owner had invested in. A bit unfair in that Ernie had good years with the Cardinals, but something that Cards fans still rub into Cubs fans to this day.
@@billgrandone3552 thanks for that input. It’s amazing to me when you look at Brocks numbers and how he seemed to flip a switch when he got to St Louis. He wasn’t great in Chicago.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r Well it was likely because he got OUT of Chicago.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r I'm a Dodger fan in Cardinal Nation land so as a a teen in the 60s I went to games when LA was in St. Louis and the greatest treats I remember were watching Gibson and Koufax or Drysdale pitted against each other and Wille Davis and Maury Wills stealing bases and Brock then doing the same. I met Lou, Gibby, and Curt Flood at the Sports Writers Dinner in 1964 and my table was next to Stan Musials though I didn't meet him or ask for an autograph. I was too awed to be within ten feet of his seat.
@ that’s a great story!! did you get any autographs of the others? I’m a collector so I’d be jealous if you did.
respect podcasters love and enthusiasm for baseball but conclusions are dated. WAR is the most important stat. Yaz is higher than Clemente , kaline nearly the same and Mickey mantle's is much larger.to say the top 4 are in a different tier is wrong
thank you for sharing your opinions. I do not use WAR because I think that it takes the fun out of analyzing all of the other numbers. I did see enough to notice that even with WAR Aaron and Mays are way ahead of the others if you only use stats from the decade of the '60's, which is what this video is about. Thank you for watching .
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r to say the top 4 are in a completely differebt place is flat out wrong. you can do better
@ enjoy your weekend. 😁
Number 20 - Matty Alou
@@randyheeb7944 you are already not the first person to mention Marty. Honestly #20 would have been Howard. Thanks for watching. 😎
Billy Williams hit 426 HRs for his career. Not 254.
@@Philtration did I say 254? That was silly. I sometimes get the numbers mixed up in my head. Thanks for the correction.
19 best. Where did you come up 19???
You say the top 5 are in a category by themselves. Why do you think Mantle doesn't deserve to be there? He was faster than Willie Mays before he had his accident . He had more power than Clemente and comparable HR numbers to Robinson,. His name is mentioned with Ted Williams ,Ruth, Dimaggio, Mays and Aaron as the possible greatest player ever.. Also how does Stargel compare to Callison and Allison'
Tommy Davis won 2 batting Title s during the sixties and led the Ny Mets in hitting in 1967 with a 300 avg,
Obviously Mantle's ranking was reduced by his dramatic decline in his last years.
@@josephshields2922 like Gerald said below, despite mantle being one of the greatest of all time, and possible the best switch hitter ever, his numbers really faded those last few years. I remember hearing Mantle say that he especially regretted playing that last year, because it dropped his career batting average below .300.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r What about my Willie Stargel question.
Mantle was excellent, but overhyped because he played for the Yankees and had the NY media lauding his every move. When he and Maris played together I clearly thought Maris was the better player.
I'm not convinced by your argument that Mays wasn't Superman because he didn't win a Gold Glove every year of the 1960s. In fact, he won a Gold Glove 12 consecutive seasons, from 1957 to 1968, a record that has never been duplicated. It's true he stopped getting the Gold Gloves, along with strong consideration in the MVP voting, in 1969 and later years, but by then Mays was 38 years old. 😊
@@zanti4132 I was trying to be sarcastic but I don’t think that I pulled it off very well. He was Superman.
@FreeSportsCards-c8r One more fun fact I stumbled upon after posting my comment: The Gold Glove Awards started in 1957, so Mays won a Gold Glove each of the first 12 years of the award. If the Gold Gloves had started prior of 1957, would Mays have won more of them? Quite likely!
@ I think that you’re correct!!!
I get the gold gloves pattern. Mays was very flashy, but made errors on routine plays. I saw him drop more balls than anyone else on this list and as he aged this became more obvious.
Who’s Bob Allison and do you put him over Hall of Fame ball players!
Did you consider Tommy Davis of the Dodgers, Mets, White Sox, Pilots, and Astros?
and Orioles
He just missed.
@@dennisbedard9850 not in the 60's
Kaline was not better than Yaz or Mantle
@@thedemartiniteam6034 thank you for sharing your opinion and for watching my videos.
Can someone tell this guy that Pinson's first name was pronounced Vayda not Vahda? What I find interesting is that 12 of these players are Black and that 8 of them were American born Black men. This illustrates what is wrong with baseball today. Can anyone name 8 American born black players who are excellent in baseball today. There are probably more Japanese players who are stars that American blacks, who primarily concentrate on the NFL and NBA today. Baseball is dying as a sport because it is now dominated by mediocre white players. One final point I think you should have found a spot for Willie Davis' teamates Tommy Davis, who was a much more feared hitter than Wille during the 1960's. Here is one more fact for you, during their time of excellence that LA Dodgers started 6 US born blacks, Willie and Tommy Davis in the outfield, Jim Gilliam, Maury Wills and Charlie Neal in the infield, and John Roseboro as catcher. The SF Giants started 4 American born blacks plus Orlando Cepeda and Felipe Alou: Willie Mays Willie Strickland, Willie McCovey, and Jim Ray Hart, and all were very good hitters. No MLB teams today can claim lineups like that.
You might want to recheck your arithmetic. Average attendance during the sixties was about 14,500 (roughly). In 2023-2024, it was 29,000+, even with all those mediocre white players you refer to. Not to mention that the league is more integrated than it was in the 60s, with Latino players more than making up for the drop in black players (sorry about that). Some markets have increased and some have decreased, but overall it’s far from dying, contrary to your claim.
@@ron88303 I am not the only person noticing this. Simply Google baseball and decline. Overall viewership, especially on television is way down. It still thrives in a few areas, but at Universities, baseball is very much a lower echelon sport. It has become a game of homeruns and strikeouts, which mans minimal action on the field. Look at the Oakland A's, the most appealing teams of the 70's and 80's is shutting down operations and moving to Sacramento. I suspect your average attendance is inflated by a few stadia in big cities like LA and NY. The minor leagues barely exist today.
This for sure is not the greatest outfielder correct order. This is the greatest outfielder based on hitting. Which is ok if you note that.. There no friggin way Clemente is not #1 or #2. If you do a greatest outfielder. I would put him ahead of anyone as an outfielder. With a very very close 2nd to Mays. And when you add offense I think Clemente is actually 2nd. Ahead of Aaron. Because of defense. Saved runs are more important than runs produced.. that stat Clemente is # 1 based on the fact that his arm actually prevented sacrifice flys to right field. Players would not test his arm on flys to right field that normally would score from 3rd base 99% of the time. Also advancing to 3rd base on flys to right field was non existent. I don't know the actual stat but I'm guessing on average he saved 1.5 to 2 runs a game
It's a list based on both offense and defense combined. Clemente was great in the field and I did take into account his 9 gold gloves. Thank you for watching and especially for sharing your opinions.
@FreeSportsCards-c8r I have never liked that way of rating position players. That makes Barry Bonds a great outfielder. Which is a joke. Tremendous batter, mediocre fielder at best... Should never be considered a great outfielder. The gold glove is also a friggin joke because hitting effects who gets a gold "Glove".
@ I will agree with you that it sometimes seems like better hitters have an advantage when it comes to getting votes for a gold glove.
@@tmiklos4 Barry Bonds was an excellent fielder, and he was a great oufielder. Probably the last American-born Black Superstar
@@raymondpierotti8414 I loved Barry Bonds when he was in Pittsburgh. Pre roids. He was a great hitter not so many home runs. But he was not great in the outfield... Average to slightly above at best. And he was no better in SF. In the early 90s When the Pirates were in the playoffs vs Atlanta final game. I blame 3 people for that 9 th innings loss. First Pirates manager Jim Leyland for bringing in Stan Belinda in (who didn't do well against Atlanta all season and in the playoffs). It was one inning. He should have brought in knuckleballer Time Wakefield who Atlanta couldn't touch. Second Stan Belinda who was great all season but not against Atlanta. And Bonds candy arm along with lackluster charging the ball that let a very slow, base runner, Sid Bream score. Reason Bonds is # 3 is he is only responsible for the Atlanta winning run... That kind of play was common Bonds Career . Not that he couldn't, it was more that he wouldn't... Nothing like Roberto that played hard every day. And Bonds contemporary Andy Van Slyke was a much better fielder than was bonds. The Pirates had great outfielders over the years. Some good to great hitters too. Clemente, Parker, Oliver, Van Slyke, Stargell, Marte, even Clynes. Bonds is behind all of these as a fielder. There were so many occasions that wouldn't show up in stats because he didn't play hard like these others did. Yes Bonds is one of the best hitters of all time. Both pre and roid era Bonds... Just many more home runs during roid era. If the Gold glove was truly based on defense, he may have had one or two, not 8.
Mine too
Kaline is pronounced with a long A.
@@jamesthomas7405 thank you for the correction.
Curt Flood is too high on the list. Kaline also too high.
@@Noname-ni1dy thanks for sharing your opinions.
The only things that Mickey Mantle did in the 60's were drink a lot and complain about his bad knees. He left his good years in the 50's.
@@buccy55 I think that he did a bit more than that, but he doesn’t rank as high as Mays and Aaron, as some viewers are suggesting.
@@FreeSportsCards-c8r I'm old enough to have seen them play. I'd have Mantle 2-3 higher on my list.
Felipe Alou Felip-A long A
@@thedemartiniteam6034 thank you.
Love your list… but… no one… not even Mays… is on a different level than Mickey Mantle. If you mean just the 60’s, maybe… but you didn’t say that.
I forgot. I think Willie Stargell belongs on this list. An even 20?
Pronounced “K” line.
@@garyharper2943 thank you.
VAY da PIN son ; )
@@notacynic1 thank you for the correction.
Kaline, Clemente and Olivia should be adjacent because they are exactly the same player: elite range in the field, cannon for an arm, good speed but few steals, low strikeouts, .300 b.a., good but not great power. Slide all three right behind Vada Pinson, giving him preference because center field is a more competitive position. Put Frank Howard above Pinson because he was arguably the greatest homer threat of the decade, playing on putrid offensive teams. Willie Davis doesn't belong in the top 20.
Howard was a monstrous threat as a home run hitter but he was, in the opinion of many, a one dimensional player. Average at best in batting average, below average speed, below average defensively.
@@GeraldM_inNC thanks for sharing your knowledge and opinions. 😎
@FreeSportsCards-c8r I'm an old guy who watched MLB every year of the 1960s.
@ I’m jealous that you got to see those guys in their prime.
Do you seriously think that the 1960'sLA Dodgers were a "Putrid offensive team". I saw them regularly and they had one of the finest offenses of the time, based on speed and situational hitting. Tommy Davis was much more feared than Frank Howard as a hitter. Ron Fairley started ahead of Howard because he was not a statue on Defense.
Not Vadah but V A long A dah
@@thedemartiniteam6034 thank you for the correction.