Victoria is not a big enough market for CFL. No to expansion to the USA it failed before would fail again, also that would threaten the Canadian ratio which is important for development of the game in Canada.
If an owner will pay for a team in the states it’s a huge influx of cash to the league. Oregon doesn’t have an NFL team so they’d love it like the Stallions fans in Baltimore loved their team.
And for BC Place, there was a small roof collapse, but that reconstruction was still planned and that temporary stadium (Empire Field, that was build on the site of the Empire Stadium, that was home for BC Lions until BC Place was built in 1983) was used only for two seasons (BC Lions came back to BC Place in the second half of 2011 season).
If you want a city in America that would really work, try Bangor, Maine. It only has a population of 31 thousand. But, they do have a international airport. And the average attendance of a CFL game is 20 thousand. But the state would really get behind a professional sports team. And a 25 thousand seat stadium could easily be built down town.
Colisse Pepsi in Quebec city is a great place to build a 30 thousand seat bowl stadium. It's centrally located with parking. And it would add a 5th team in the east.
@@dom2009 as an American business man, this is exactly what I'm trying to do. I want to own my own team, I live in the south and minor league teams make 0 revenue. And I'm seriously trying to do exactly what I said. But dealing with the French is not easy. And dealing with the city council of Quebec city is a pain in the ass.
@@aaronlovell6026 that’s cool. If you do wind up doing that I think I could be a good fit for general manager. I got no experience but I can make the Jets win a Super Bowl in madden so I’m doing something right 🤷♂️
I like the way you think. Forget Halifax, they had their chance. I like Quebec City and London, Ontario as expansion cities. I like Portland, they'd make a great international rivalry with Vancouver, but they don't have a football stadium. The CFL should go to St. Louis like what TSN's Dave Naylor tweeted.
@@JohnHobbs-o3z Expansion inside Canada is a no go too because Halifax/NS is too cheap to build a stadium in which the city/region desperately needs. The US is the only alternative to expansion because it has stadiums galore, market size and media rights deal
CFL would have a serious difficulty in getting a foothold in the USA, thanks to NFL dominance. And remember, the CFL tried expansion into the USA (1993-1995) and it failed horribly.
Are you sure you didn't look up Portland Maine's metro population... Portland Oregon metro population is 2.5 million.. it would be one of the largest CFL markets. The city population is 630k.
These areas are not large enough to support a CFL team. Ottawa-Hull has 1.4 million. 6:13 Portland: we tried that already. Any American team cannot implement the Canadian Content rule, so will have a player quality advantage.
And that US Expansion didn't work for Baltimore. Yes, attendance was good, but the team wasn't that popular as you thought and the fact that NFL decided to bring back a team to Baltimore made Stallions Grey Cup win meaningless.
Moncton,really i dont think so,Saskatoon would be a far better choice,its a football hotbed.It would be a natural rival to Regina.Plus Laval would also work,they love football.You have to look at the football culture not just population.
Portland would not work. Stadium is very small for CFL standards (not in terms of capacity, but in terms of an actual size, Canadian Football Field is way longer than a soccer field). BMO Field in Toronto is a great example of how a soccer specific stadium is modified for CFL. It's still not big enough though, just barely, but still a little smaller than needed. Canadian Football field is 150 by 65 yards (that includes 20 yards deep end zones) and at BMO Field the Canadian Football field size is 146 by 65 yards with 18 yards deep end zones... and you could clearly see in soccer, how much space is behind the goals.
The CFL peaked some time ago, and there will be no expansion. For years, many have clamored for the Atlantic Schooners in Halifax. Logo and uniforms ready. It will never happen. Cities in the U.S. will never happen again because college football is now openly professional. The Toronto area should be able to support two clubs - but the Argos moved from the Rogers Cenre to a small soccer stadium. There's not much demand.
The key for the CFL is expanded marketing. Hire players, former players, and scouts to spread the word about the CFL. Give American university head coaches Cuban Cigars. Fly football teams up to Canada. Let them go out for a night on the town. Take advantage of the lower drinking age and other adult activities. Absolutely no viable expansion cities at the moment, anywhere. People have to be exposed to the product. No one is going to build a CFL style stadium unless they have other tenants as well. It's not worth it for a CFL team alone because they only have 10 home dates per year if you include pre-season. The only path for the CFL to expand is to either a) partner with a spring league or b) wait until the spring league has died and try to expand to a city like St Louis. With that comes changing some rules. Will probably have to go to 100 yard fields and possibly 4 downs. I'm hoping they try 15 yards for a first down to see how it works first. At some point they will get rid of the ratio on their own so that won't be a concern.
@@dom2009 You can keep 3 downs if the field has the width. It's easier to accomplish that if both teams are on the same sideline. The length will be tricky. Only major stadiums in America that have the length are in Oakland and San Antonio. Even Toronto and Montreal struggle with the length with their shortened end zones
It was the best era of the CFL. It just wasn't done correctly. WLAF was doing well in Montreal and Columbus. None of those places were tried in 93 to 95.. The CFL was giving out franchises like candy on Halloween to anyone who had 100k in expansion deposit money.
Halifax , Quebec City & Victoria should be the first to get teams but if they want to go state side again here are the cities they should go to Portland Or. , Salt Lake City Ut. , Rochester NY. , Hartford Ct. , Michigan & Ohio .
The ideal number of teams in the CFL should be 12 Halifax , Quebec City & Victoria that should be it but if the CFL. wants to take a chance on adding more teams state side they should stick northern or boarder states not like the last time where they went to far south & nearly killed the league .
You have to do a better study of the English Language, Sonny...You speak of 8th SMALLEST and 9th SMALLEST, which of course means that there are 7 or 8 SMALLER stadia.
Halifax has the Wanderers of the CPL. Fully professional. They are loved there.
The CFL should expand to Paul Kariya
The only way Paul Kariya should to be in the Hockey Hall of Fame, is if he bought a ticket
Victoria is not a big enough market for CFL. No to expansion to the USA it failed before would fail again, also that would threaten the Canadian ratio which is important for development of the game in Canada.
If an owner will pay for a team in the states it’s a huge influx of cash to the league. Oregon doesn’t have an NFL team so they’d love it like the Stallions fans in Baltimore loved their team.
@@dom2009 Won't work. Americans are too stupid to understand the rouge.
😂
Victoria is big enough,they just wont go,look at toronto biggest city,worst crowds.
And for BC Place, there was a small roof collapse, but that reconstruction was still planned and that temporary stadium (Empire Field, that was build on the site of the Empire Stadium, that was home for BC Lions until BC Place was built in 1983) was used only for two seasons (BC Lions came back to BC Place in the second half of 2011 season).
If you want a city in America that would really work, try Bangor, Maine. It only has a population of 31 thousand. But, they do have a international airport. And the average attendance of a CFL game is 20 thousand. But the state would really get behind a professional sports team. And a 25 thousand seat stadium could easily be built down town.
Colisse Pepsi in Quebec city is a great place to build a 30 thousand seat bowl stadium. It's centrally located with parking. And it would add a 5th team in the east.
Perfect scenario
@@dom2009 as an American business man, this is exactly what I'm trying to do. I want to own my own team, I live in the south and minor league teams make 0 revenue. And I'm seriously trying to do exactly what I said. But dealing with the French is not easy. And dealing with the city council of Quebec city is a pain in the ass.
@dom2009 I'm working to make the Quebec city Waheela a real thing.
@@aaronlovell6026 that’s cool. If you do wind up doing that I think I could be a good fit for general manager. I got no experience but I can make the Jets win a Super Bowl in madden so I’m doing something right 🤷♂️
I like the way you think. Forget Halifax, they had their chance. I like Quebec City and London, Ontario as expansion cities. I like Portland, they'd make a great international rivalry with Vancouver, but they don't have a football stadium. The CFL should go to St. Louis like what TSN's Dave Naylor tweeted.
That would be awesome St Louis, they really support their UFL team so a CFL team no doubt they would fall in love with
@@dom2009 Baltimore Stallions 2.0
Nope-US is a no go sorry
@@JohnHobbs-o3z how so?
@@JohnHobbs-o3z Expansion inside Canada is a no go too because Halifax/NS is too cheap to build a stadium in which the city/region desperately needs. The US is the only alternative to expansion because it has stadiums galore, market size and media rights deal
Timbers and Thorns don't want gridiron at their stadium. Best bet for the area would be investing in the Hillsboro stadium to expand to 20k+
Stateside will always fail.
you forgot Anchorage , AL
Sacramento, CA & Salt Lake City, UT would be great additions
Nope!
No Cal has Stanford and Cal, which they don't support. The Utah Utes are Salt Lake's professional team, and are very popular.
CFL would have a serious difficulty in getting a foothold in the USA, thanks to NFL dominance. And remember, the CFL tried expansion into the USA (1993-1995) and it failed horribly.
I would like to see a merger of sorts between the NFL and CFL. 8 teams would mean 2 more divisions.
Windsor, Ontario
Why not St. Johns NFLD? They could call it " The Flounder".
The CFL needs to merge with the UFL and move to their schedule.
Are you sure you didn't look up Portland Maine's metro population... Portland Oregon metro population is 2.5 million.. it would be one of the largest CFL markets. The city population is 630k.
These areas are not large enough to support a CFL team. Ottawa-Hull has 1.4 million.
6:13 Portland: we tried that already. Any American team cannot implement the Canadian Content rule, so will have a player quality advantage.
I've read that Laval University doesn't want to share their stadium with CFL Expansion team (yes, Telus Stadium is the Laval University property).
The cfl should go to Windsor
And that US Expansion didn't work for Baltimore. Yes, attendance was good, but the team wasn't that popular as you thought and the fact that NFL decided to bring back a team to Baltimore made Stallions Grey Cup win meaningless.
Moncton,really i dont think so,Saskatoon would be a far better choice,its a football hotbed.It would be a natural rival to Regina.Plus Laval would also work,they love football.You have to look at the football culture not just population.
Having a stadium helps, Saskatoon and Laval would be great places for a team
Laval?
Really?
Montreal has their team.
Quebec City it is if going to Quebec province.
Unless you think Laval University is actually in Laval....
Portland would not work.
Stadium is very small for CFL standards (not in terms of capacity, but in terms of an actual size, Canadian Football Field is way longer than a soccer field). BMO Field in Toronto is a great example of how a soccer specific stadium is modified for CFL. It's still not big enough though, just barely, but still a little smaller than needed. Canadian Football field is 150 by 65 yards (that includes 20 yards deep end zones) and at BMO Field the Canadian Football field size is 146 by 65 yards with 18 yards deep end zones... and you could clearly see in soccer, how much space is behind the goals.
It’s a fun topic, the cfl probably isn’t even going past 10 teams ever anyway
The CFL peaked some time ago, and there will be no expansion. For years, many have clamored for the Atlantic Schooners in Halifax. Logo and uniforms ready. It will never happen. Cities in the U.S. will never happen again because college football is now openly professional. The Toronto area should be able to support two clubs - but the Argos moved from the Rogers Cenre to a small soccer stadium. There's not much demand.
The key for the CFL is expanded marketing. Hire players, former players, and scouts to spread the word about the CFL. Give American university head coaches Cuban Cigars. Fly football teams up to Canada. Let them go out for a night on the town. Take advantage of the lower drinking age and other adult activities.
Absolutely no viable expansion cities at the moment, anywhere. People have to be exposed to the product. No one is going to build a CFL style stadium unless they have other tenants as well. It's not worth it for a CFL team alone because they only have 10 home dates per year if you include pre-season.
The only path for the CFL to expand is to either a) partner with a spring league or b) wait until the spring league has died and try to expand to a city like St Louis. With that comes changing some rules. Will probably have to go to 100 yard fields and possibly 4 downs. I'm hoping they try 15 yards for a first down to see how it works first. At some point they will get rid of the ratio on their own so that won't be a concern.
Thing is, you gotta keep the 3 downs and do your best to keep the field size. 3 downs is actually more entertaining.
@@dom2009 You can keep 3 downs if the field has the width. It's easier to accomplish that if both teams are on the same sideline.
The length will be tricky. Only major stadiums in America that have the length are in Oakland and San Antonio. Even Toronto and Montreal struggle with the length with their shortened end zones
Bank of America stadium could probably comfortably fit a cfl field. You could always do a little renovation pushing back the seats at the end.
@@dom2009 Well yeah if you get a situation where a stadium is willing to do some renovations then that is a game changer.
@ yeah!
6:13 I remember Sacramento, Baltimore, Las Vegas and Shreveport. Wasn't a great era for the CFL.
Saved the league though with all the expansion fees being payed
It was the best era of the CFL. It just wasn't done correctly. WLAF was doing well in Montreal and Columbus. None of those places were tried in 93 to 95.. The CFL was giving out franchises like candy on Halloween to anyone who had 100k in expansion deposit money.
Halifax , Quebec City & Victoria should be the first to get teams but if they want to go state side again here are the cities they should go to Portland Or. , Salt Lake City Ut. , Rochester NY. , Hartford Ct. , Michigan & Ohio .
The ideal number of teams in the CFL should be 12 Halifax , Quebec City & Victoria that should be it but if the CFL. wants to take a chance on adding more teams state side they should stick northern or boarder states not like the last time where they went to far south & nearly killed the league .
Fargo or Sioux Falls
Duck......and OUT!
You have to do a better study of the English Language, Sonny...You speak of 8th SMALLEST and 9th SMALLEST, which of course means that there are 7 or 8 SMALLER stadia.
Tbh CFL should Expand to 14 team's and cut player's salaries! And try to grow their media!
Players salaries aren’t an issue, getting younger people interested in watching is important for the league’s success over the next quarter century.
So boring the CFL
Who cares it's a failed legue
At least they don't need four downs to make ten yards.
CFL should fold. Does anyone care abput this inferipr 3 down game. There might be few soccer follower who might enjoy the punt game.