Titan Spray Guide Review. Is This A Terrible Painting Tools?
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Should you buy the Titan Spray Guide? Painting tools or pizza cutter? Is this the best tool for controlling overspray? The Idaho Painter reviews the Titan Spray Guard airless spraying an interior wall. Paint Life Store: paintlifesuppl... / Titan Airless Tools: t.ly/0pIS
John Three Three
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Bro, I really learn a lot from your videos and enjoy how you have no problem telling the truth about a product. Thank you and keep up the good work…well worth watching !!!!
My pleasure!
Thanks for your honest review; the tool is what I suspected it would be. You saved me time, money and a bunch of frustration. Thanks again!
Very welcome
I think is great there is always a learning curve. This is just your first time so relax.
I painted a house exterior, the colors were white for trim and Greek villa for body, essentially white on white. Used that roller thing to cut in around some hard to reach areas above the garage roof, made it a super fast job. It has its place but it’s super limited to like colors and if I was going to use it on an interior....your still gonna need to pull out the brush or use a hand masker for the corners and it’s gonna drip like crazy with the buildup
I think I’d be faster with cutting in the old fashioned way. Not sure I’d use this. Thanks for sharing this, Chris!!
Hand cut ins are the best still
I used it a few years ago it worked really well under crown molding that I installed, but when I got to the corners you definitely have to tape the corners, I'll sure repainting. If you use this machine tool once a week it's great but if you throw it in your toolbox and forget about it for 6 months and try to use it again it won't work you just like forget how to use it you have to test it and make sure you're doing it right and make sure you got the right tip in it it needs a 314 tip or something
As always, thanks for your honesty and demos 👍
Simply trying to show what works and does not
hey Chris, i agree with J.Lopresi, Ive found that you really need to have a guy standing by with a 5 gal. bucket or 2 of water and towel, dunk it once,towel it, dunk it again and it can actully save some time, HOWEVER things are different for a real painter than they are for homeowners/handymen, if you have ceiling paint, it is super fast to just have someone hold shields in place (big ass diy pcs. of siding)spray walls and touch up ceilings, In my time as a painter 20+ years, Im almost ready to just tape everything off with frogtape, PRE wet it with damp rag and roll right to it with 9" roller , no cutting at all but this only makes sense if you are someone that can mask 3 times faster than normal people can, i.e. painters.
You'd be better off attaching a cat turd to the end of your sprayer.
Dang, you have a point
Ohh gosh. 😱 i wish i would have seen this before I actually bought mine. And yes exactly its really no good evenwhen i attempted to use it. It is time consuming just to clean up excess then you still have to go back and brush. Well atleast now i know it wasnt just me using the tool the wrong way🤣🤣🤣🤣
I can see the headaches with this device. Even if you get it perfectly dialed in. You have to wipe it or reverse a clogged tip it would move/mis adjust the dialed in angle because the swivel doesnt locked in. It just seems if the company really cared about the device they wouldve made it non-adjustable. The tip size and angle should be preset by design.
OK for workshops maybe, but interesting thanks.
If I have a lot of crown molding to paint, I will spray the ceilings first, and then use this to put on the semi-gloss for the trim (only if the trim and ceilings are both white). The slight overspray from the semi-gloss isn't noticeable on the ceiling, and if the crown is complex or has a lot of ridges, then I can just do a quick brush over it, not having to worry about the cut in next to the ceiling
Thanks for sharing
Thank you so much for the review! Exactly what I was looking for, a review from a pro actually using it in action.
Thanks again for your time with this video!
Glad to help
Yeah I was thinking about getting one, I own a taping company and we always prime our own jobs and sometimes homeowners have us get a coat of finish on and we're not fast at cutting in , so glad you did this review I won't even bother with it
You did a pretty good job explaining how this stupid tool works.
I’ve known about this scam for years and wondered how anybody could be so stupid as to actually buy this darn thing, let alone waste their valuable time using it.
The concept was half there, but they didn’t complete the concept.
I do multimillion dollar houses in Newport Beach, CA and would never, ever use that thing.
It’s possible they could have modified the tool and added foam to the disk to absorb some of the paint, but even then, you’ll still have problems.
I’m glad you informed us of the details, but I would sum it up by saying it’s an idiot tool for suckers.
Yep
Heavens dude you just talk and talk and talk
That is an exceedingly nice home. I couldn't figure out if it was a "Green Screen" background or real for a while.
When you brought out the 5 gallons of BLACK paint inside that lovely beige and white interior, with none of the furniture and carpets covered in plastic, and just a few very small drop-cloths, I was sure you were making a comedy video and were going to just start painting everything.
(I guess the difference between a "Vandal" and a "Professional Painter" is 1) Skill, and 2) Confidence)
Those people are going to want their nice beige walls with the crisp white trim back, within a week I bet, rather than that black hallway. Marge and Harry need to cancel their subscriptions to the fancy Interior Design magazines, and most advisedly: QUIT drinking!
You must have some expensive insurance coverage to be that confident about bringing in a new, untested machine full of high pressures and paint into a nice, occupied home.
I salute you, and thank you. (I took that wheelie gadget out of my Amazon "Saved for Later" list)
I learn more and more with every video you make.
That’s his house, 90% sure. It even has the same cabinets from his cabinet estimate vid.
just turn the pressure down.....
I have a question on why my new sheetrock primed with a Grayco sprayer has a rough texture? I am spraying in my detached garage do i need to back roll because it new sheetrock?
Yes
Did you set the spray angle where it barley hit the end of the disk?
Hi, thanks for the video. I've looked at these a lot and wondered how 'sharp' it'd be. For the little extra time to mask off I think that's what I'll do. I can see a place for this although that place is 20 feet up heh. Cheers from New Zealand
This was the type of review I needed, I bought one anyways, cause I hadn't seen this vid before I came across the product. But I originally bought it thinkin I could possibly set the guide up backwards for spraying gutters, realized where that didn't work. But was only further skeptical about overspray.
I actualy use this but i use a number 2 blue tip and it works like a charm
Great review Chris but I'll stick with manual cutting in. However, I can't keep my damn airless from creating tails when spraying? I have the guage set at 1600 psi w/ HEA 311. I've tried everything WTH!
Turn pressure up
@@thesaviorofALL I'll have to try something or quit using these useless HEA tips.
@@tocolee6127 I find tailing is just low pressure issue Crank it up and see how it looks
Make sure pump n gun filter are properly cleaned and try some test runs with higher or lower pressure there should be a pressure n tip size recommendation n if there isn’t then usually that product isn’t formulated to spray n you’ll fight it no matter what if it’s one of those products
Use a different tip, we use hea tips all the time but try with another tip and see if the issue persist
Excellent video thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Looks pretty fiddly and janky. Unlikely to have any consistent utility to justify the price point. Thanks for demoing it though! Now we know. Interesting concept, but clearly it doesn't readily translate into real-world scenarios. I'm thinking of all the old paint-veteran's watching this, contemptuous sneers stamped on their faces, seeing the truth of it right away; but it's still entertaining to see some of these dubious contraptions put to the test!
Used it and realized it’s only going to help with overspray, not cutting in. If you want a clean cut use a brush or a shield.
It’s a waste
That’s more for warehouse or really high ceiling commercial mainly
Fuzzy lines are not for any job LOL
Way too many problems using on a high ceiling. First of all, the degree of difficulty and control increases your physical effort with every extension needed to reach your target height. Secondly, when using extensions, the amount of paint spat out on trigger-off ruins any hope of a decent finish and leads to time-consuming rectification works. Thirdly, you need to move at a reasonable pace, which is not always possible when your paint intersection is rough/uneven or the ground is uneven. Fourthly, you need at least a 40 degree tip to allow the paint to hit the disc. That's a lot of wasted paint without any quality guarantee. It's hit or miss.
You gotta keep adjusting it, shouldn’t have that much paint on it. I bought a cheap one, works great. Takes time but once you dial it in you can work fast and clean. You adjust it so it’s just barely missing the wheel, the wheel should be catching overspray and not being hit directly.
That's what I was thinking. You gotta adjust it on the flat wall first. From what I see the wheel should barley be getting it.
I have had great success with this tool in a office/commercial setting spraying to a metal grid, drop in(act) ceiling. I did find that it is much easier to actually mask the perimeter grid with 2 inch tape(very easy, very quick), using paper mask on inside corners and outside corners, prior to spraying. Once you invest the time in masking you can actually fly through the spraying process. I actually use this tool all the time for that application. However that's really the only application that I have found where this tool is beneficial
Thanks for a great review.
I saw that about 5 years ago and immediately thought WHAT THE HELL! What the hell were they thinking? That's one of the most ignorant tools I've seen on the market.
I’ve lost all respect for Titan for letting that idiotic tool into their line.
The overspray is so freaking obvious from the get-go. When I use shields, carboard or metal it’s pretty good, but I always have to clean them, or I’ll get about 10 cardboard shields and use a new one when my current shield gets wet.
But how in the hell could these morons not know the paint would cake up in seconds?
With a shield you got about 36” to catch the overspray, but little wheel barely gives you a few inches.
What the hell???
🤔🤨
Can you do a video how to operate Titan 410 sprayer
Every painter I know wouldn't even try it , either mask and spray or just cut it in ... I happen to like cutting in a lot so it's a hard no for me .
I used it for painting white semi-gloss crown molding against a white flat ceiling. Worked great for me. I used a 211 tip.
Sounds great!
Advanced painters of Dulwich luxury finishes
would a 1 metre shield be better
Totally biased, noticed you used black paint same color as the roller so we rally could not tell how far out of adjustment you really had it, really need to quit drinking
Need to hold the wheel straight not at an angle is why you have over spray, plus the angle of your tip is off
Is there an exact reason why painter mostly always wear white pants??
Great videos by the way I got some major size rooms in my home snd the tips you give in airless spraying has made me get some good results so far ..thanks
Mostly interior paint is light in color and therefore if you wear white pants mostly the paint you get on them will not show up as bad and look better for a little bit longer than if you wore darker pants in the old days almost all paint was just White.
Painters should wear pants for lots of jobs and then sell them for a profit. People want to buy clothing with paint spatter on it! Lol
Junk
Yep
Back in the late 70's we'd spray exteriors with 24-36" metal or cardboard shields mostly for the eves after the stucco was done, and they were pretty effective.
Working fast I'd bring about 10 cardboard shields as they get sopping wet very fast, so I'd lay it down and get a new dry one.
This wheel would get sopping wet so fast it wouldn't be worth the time.
If they designed this wheel with a super absorbent foam padding then MAYBE, otherwise it's a joke.
tjhanks for sharing
Chris you are not using it correctly, also for all of you that did not have luck with it, it does not make laser lines but it works much better than on the video, you have to keep the tool and extension 100% vertical all the time and walk with it as you move, there should not be any hand movement towards left or right as it makes overspray right away. Also your hand is close to the wall, move it towards your self a bit. You should start from right corner toward left and spray about 2' than you go to left side and spray towards the area where you started so you dont spray all the way towards the end. I also found it works better with FFLP 410 or 412 tips. If you take time and adjust angle perfectly and move it while keeping it vertical all the time it works much better. Also after a while that center of the wheel gets dirty and blocks the wheel from spinning, I installed small bear bottle cup on top of it so that paint cant get on it... Give it second try, it works on rentals and exterior
I was using it to specs on the PACKAGE. I used it several times. I have over 20K hours spraying with an airless sprayer and some tools are good and some a waist. Now. It you have lots of time on your hand, maybe you can get better with this tool. For me the learning curve is to great to invest in it. Hey, not every tool is for everyone.
Thanks for the info sep, i'm looking to use one as i only do new builds which mostly are standard builders white ceiling and a light color to the walls and think this would be ideal for the first cut to ceiling lines, like Chris mentioned he likes to cut up a couple of mm onto cornice to give that straight cut impression when viewed square on, this item would never eliminate the final cut in by brush, but looks like it has it's uses,very happy to leave it short in the corners and catch with a brush afterwards, the time jumping up and down steps, platforms etc to cut ceiling lines on larger homes is a long drawn out job at times
@@Idahopainter If you watch the product video, it clearly explains how to set it up. Unfortunately Chris, you completely botched the setup.
What about if you were doing a fast turnaround white out scenario (commercial apartment re-let for example) where the walls and trim are both going to be white but different paint products. Would it work for this. Obviously won’t be perfect but could it speed up the job a bit for sacrificing a bit of quality of edge??
Would sacrifice time as always cleaning the wheel. Easy if spray woodwork allow to dry, mask woodwork, spray walls, allow to dry, grab a board (real estate boards work well) put in into the internal corner of the ceiling and wall and spray the ceiling moving the board along to catch the over spray. 🤙
Exactly. I almost threw it in the garbage. I kept the adjustable part and threw away the roller attachment. 45 years of painting and it was the worst tool I have ever used.
Interesting
I WAS LOOKING TO BUY… BUT I NOTICED HE DIDNT FOLLOW OR READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.
ITS LIKE GIVING ADVICE ON BUILDING A TOOLBOX WITH DIRECTLY FOLLOWING THE MANUAL.
READING THE MANUAL COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE OVERSPRAY
TO KEEP CLEAN LINES WHEN FINISHING DONT YANK THE SPAYER UP WHILE STILL SPRAYING
OK
You only need to catch the guide with the fan of spray if you had to wipe it that quickly you are catching it too much
As far as needing a rag to constantly wipe the disc off… what if you sprayed the disc with a silicone spray? Could that work?
Good tip
I would like to ask you. I need a spray painter the will spray varnish and lacquer and paint. I do woodworking and make stuff. And I would like to find one does all . But good I put a clear high gloss. Can you give me some help picking on out .
Ok
A less talking and lot more action!
I used a cheapo Chinese knock off and it surely was a waste of time and effort
LMAO, if Titan cannot get it right then a knock off will not also
El angulo de la herramienta ests malo tienes q usar una escalera
Glad to see the Graco ProX19. That is the sprayer I chose for my DIY needs. Hopefully you give it 👍. I haven't opened the box yet. Can you aprove?
Garage, nothing but problems, get a graco 395 nova, or a titan 440 those 2 sprayers have went threw 2 seasons everyday use with no problems just normal filter replacements.
16 mins of explaining what the tool does.. Get to spraying!!
OK
20:20 in painting….
I would rather use a paint shield instead but I don't think it's a good idea to use this tool I would rather brush the ceiling line it only takes 10 minutes to do a room if you know how to paint
Nice job here. I have some aptitude and don’t need as much info although for the diy’er this is great content AND I learned many things to make this spray job better.
I wouldn't even have tried that thing. I could see what would happen with it right away. JUNK
It’s not bad. I would still use it when painting instead of having to completely mask everything. It leaves a bit overspray, but when you paint a window frame you’re painting walls first anyway and overspray on the trim. I would probably turn down the pressure some. And move a bit off being against the trim some. Yea won’t be perfect but it’s helping some instead of just over spraying
i cant believe a company like titan would try to scam people with such a failed piece of as they call equipment, that thing isnt even worth the touch up you now have to do. they should be ashamed of that junk good video.
When a pro shows that its not the answer..... itll save us all money. Thankyou for your videos. they save us weekend warriors from expensive mistakes.
Great demo, simply dose not work for industrial purposes. Far to messy in Use and Finnish. The last thing you need to be doing is cleaning up that thing every 6’ , it would add hours to your job. Just one big mess you do not need. Thanks for taking the time to show these gadgets .
I can definitely see some situations this could be handy mostly is some commercial or production situations or just a a rough group overspray blocker were perfection is not exactly the goal but a fresh look it... Definitely not up to standard for a Finnish edge though but it think it could be a time saver in some situation or the unfortunate situation. I could definitely see this when you just have white one white with Sean change. Rentals apartments things of that nature. I also think this could work great along with tape anytime your already doing to be using a pressure roller with tape possibly no paper. Since a sprayer will already be set up and there is a large amount of cut it with a solo painter this could be a game changer for efficiency
Good information, it's better use brush..
Yes, you are right
I've seen someone spray trim pretty effectively with one. They masked all of the corners and sprayed them. And used the guide on the straight trim lines.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I guess using a shield is still a better way to go.
Masking is the way to go
I think is great there is always a learning curve. This is just your first time so relax.
Bought one when first came out because of all the hype....Ill stick to cutting in by hand.
Thanks for sharing🤙
I wish i would have seen this video before i purchased mine last year, used it one time for 30 min. i put it in the trash
What’d you think about the sprayer? ProX19?
Thank you
Looks like it's trash to me. Look at all that over spray. I've been wanting one of these for crown, too.
So if I would decide to use one would you say still tape everything off.
I definitely won't need to test this thanks to you bud..
Lol. Yes thank you frustrating I used it before.
Maybe with light colors....Linen White, ect
graco x7 or titan 1700. which one is worth the money
Yup definitely to aggravating to use!
Thanks alot just saved me some time, money and frustration. Your the best 🙏
Glad I could help
I’ve done many trades in my lifetime. I’m only sticking to paint now a days. Quickest, easiest, makes most money.
Nice
Thanks was gonna try but had the same questions about dripping. I'll stick to multiple shields , masking and cutting with brush
I use this tool only for keeping the overspray off the ceiling.. Its Not for cutting in.. Cut in afterwards. the knockoff is 20 dolar and comes with 310 tip and seal...
The tool is terrible in my opinion
My dear friend. We're I can get this cutting tool here in Brasil!?? It's very hard to get it. U know we are a little bit late on technologies. I really appreciate it to buy but it's hard to get it. could you please send me a light!??? Thanks for your time.
You can try Amazon or Ebay
I love your videos thank you I’m learning so much
I used the metal one took a while to get it but I feel you have to get lucky with them I rather hold a shield
thanks man. for reviewing this item.
What size tip were you using?
I just saved $60, thank you, I'll use a piece of cardboard with a stick
👊
Maybe with a FFLP Tip ? And seems more of a baseboard worthy tool then crown tool.
Possibly
Thanks for the video and explanations, Actually i need to have the product.
Not worth $5
Best experience I have it’s with low pressure graco 390 and a green tip 410
nice
To be honest, this looks like it's about an useful as that silly as seen on tv cut in edge roller.
I'll pass on this.
You have a good point
I bought the combo kit with the roller sprayer. lost the screw on first use but never used the wheel . I did not care for the roller attachment. feel it easier to just roll it. waste of money !
But I do like the swiveling tip I placed it on an extension got a back roller behind me and did whole house walls and ceiling in 4 hours (1600sf)
Waste dont buy
Jesus Christ, why does it take 26 minutes to tell me if it’s a great tool or not
It has a top quality swivel the swivel's worth the money.
Yes sir baby boy...
LOL
@@Idahopainter
( ͝° ͜ʖ͡°)ᕤ keep flexing you're the best buddy
Mights actually work with a much larger shield but will always have to wipe it down so often that it defeats the point.
Yes🤙
Man i need to stop by the shop and truely pick your brain 🧠ahaha
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It’s probably meant for commercial use.
Old fashioned way is the right way
You know, you have a great point.
What guard are you using? 209/109/211?
The one it came with
I have this junk, $80. 100% garbage
I am kinda siding with you on this one
Great review!