That´s awesome, thanks for the upload! I have a Street Triple too, what a great bike. I´m practicing some of these drills, and I find that I´m getting more and more comfortable with leaning at low speeds (turns at around 10-12kph) but I´m using the clutch almost all the time... I feel that without the clutch the engine is a bit jumpy and harder to modulate, to slipping the clutch feels more natural and easier to feed power. But you made it look easy without slipping the clutch, I´ll give it a go in my next sessions. Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment! I mostly train "motogymkhana" style riding, which rarely uses a clutch (mostly on 1 or 2 cyl bikes), so my clutch control skills are non-existent :). All the balance stuff is done by body/rear brake/throttle. Yes, you need to change rear brake pads more often than regular riding, but it gives you very precise and smooth control. You should give it a try I think :).
this is exactly what i need. i want to learn motogymkhan but there is no training school here in los angeles. so i want to learn by watching youtube videos. would be nice if there is a tutorial of every technique on how to do the basic elements😁
Thanks for the comment! Unfortunately, I don't have any tutorials, most of my videos are just random stuff from my training sessions. If you look at my channel's "Community" section, I have posted links to the videos I used for the training, maybe these will be helpful. Also, you can check James Bush page m-gymkhana.com/ he is quite active in motogymkhana stage in the USA. E.g. I see he organized some event in May quite close to Los Angeles, so you keep an eye on his page :).
Once a week I run one single practice which contains all. Dowload photo pattern for "Satokana GP" and you only need 4 cones and two for start line, or just tennis balls.
@@MujoNovak Yes, Satokana GP is a nice track, I would say a little bit on the harder side for beginners :). The thing that adds new fun to the action is the timer- dump a few cones, make a track layout with 2-4 elements, and run against the clock. You will go crazy experimenting and trying new stuff to shave a few seconds/milliseconds from your "personal best"! Later you can try to run some "standard" MG layouts (Pita GP, Umigame GP etc) or join online competitions e.g. MgymFun OLC mgym.fun/online/CurrentRound.php
Are you using that back brake and dragging it while doing the full lock corners? Winters coming here so I don't have many riding days left :( but I want to get out and practice this stuff. I can ride fairly decently as pretty slow speeds, corner and U turn full lock. I have a preference for turning to the left for some reason though it just feels more natural where as turning right something seems like its soff balance. Just more stuff to iron out. But as for crawling in traffic I'm getting good and doing that thing you did as a kid on a bicycle when you were riding beside your friend who was walking turning that front wheel back and forth to keep steady lmao.
Hi, yes, I use rear brake during last phase of the turn. I would say this is not "draging", but more like "pulsing"- keep throttle little bit open and then modulate rear depending on speed/lean. If you haven't bumped yet onto Mogy's videos, please check link below, it shows quite nicely when and how front, rear and throttle is used during the turn. Thanks for comment :). Mogy video on how controls are used ua-cam.com/video/vCvMpO4YLtI/v-deo.html This is more on rinning GP8, but lot of good ideas of cotrols use www.gymkhana.kiev.ua/how-to-get-under-30-sec-on-gp8-gymkhana-layout/
Hi, I don't have that strict training routine, but for the first half of training I usually do lot of repetitions of simple elements. For the second half I usually build one of "basic" MG course and do some timed runs. For example, start with something completely basic like "ovals". Or just place one cone and do 180 turns. Or 360 rotations. Or simple weave between two cones... The goal is to repeat same element many times to build "muscle memory". I also usually record my training to have visual feedback, this is how these youtube videos are born :). I have put few links for inspiration with MG elements, standard MG courses and Martijn Stapelbroek explaining "ovals". Have great fun and angle :). Basic elements motogymkhanaswiss.ch/elements/ Basic MG tracks gymkhana-cup.com/competitions/results?by=figure Martjin Stapebroek explains "ovals" ua-cam.com/video/8g5zGRIhnBo/v-deo.html
Don't remember exactly, but it must be ~10-12m for two cone setup and ~7m for L shaped course. There is standard motogymkhana layout called GP8 often used for training and skill evaluation, it is two cones 12m apart. I personally make various combinations of training courses around that distance. You can check more ideas for track elements and layouts here motogymkhanaswiss.ch/parcours-figures/ .
Yes, in motogymkhana style riding the concept of "lean with the bike" is quite popular. That means you don't move too much on the bike sideways and stay more less centered. I added a few links on my channel community section with playlists about Japanese riding techniques, also this video quite well explains the concept ua-cam.com/video/QAH4ml5B79Q/v-deo.html
I use front brake to drop the speed and get front forks turning. As turn radius decreases I gradually release front brake and let it go completely when FL (or near FL) is achieved- so at this point only covering front brake to support my hand and keep throttle steady. Then during the turn you modulate rear brake to adjust speed and angle. You can try this first phase by yourself- roll steady at ~20-25kmh, lean the bike and start the turn not changing the speed. Then (very very gently :)!) start adding front brake. You will feel how the handlebars starts turning more and more without any input from your side (or you will feel how handlebar pushes your hand if you hold too tightly). The turn sequence I mentioned is kind of basic approach, pro guys have their own ways of doing their magic. E.g. using front brake during FL turn or not using brakes at all :). But these are advanced riding techniques and they are beyond my understanding :)... Please check links below for inspiration: Front and rear brake use ua-cam.com/video/UHbyWQBDIBA/v-deo.html Front, rear and throttle coordination ua-cam.com/video/vCvMpO4YLtI/v-deo.html No hands FL rotations ua-cam.com/video/90BxTrAADi4/v-deo.html
![[Full English CC] Motorcycle Training: How to rotate - by Rank B, Motogymkhana Rider JAPAN](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4Ub4bS94E3k/mqdefault.jpg)
That´s awesome, thanks for the upload! I have a Street Triple too, what a great bike. I´m practicing some of these drills, and I find that I´m getting more and more comfortable with leaning at low speeds (turns at around 10-12kph) but I´m using the clutch almost all the time... I feel that without the clutch the engine is a bit jumpy and harder to modulate, to slipping the clutch feels more natural and easier to feed power. But you made it look easy without slipping the clutch, I´ll give it a go in my next sessions. Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment! I mostly train "motogymkhana" style riding, which rarely uses a clutch (mostly on 1 or 2 cyl bikes), so my clutch control skills are non-existent :). All the balance stuff is done by body/rear brake/throttle. Yes, you need to change rear brake pads more often than regular riding, but it gives you very precise and smooth control. You should give it a try I think :).
That's a nice sounding Street Triple!
Yes, riding season is already over and I miss that sound :).
So smooth bro. Keep up good work
this is exactly what i need. i want to learn motogymkhan but there is no training school here in los angeles. so i want to learn by watching youtube videos. would be nice if there is a tutorial of every technique on how to do the basic elements😁
Thanks for the comment! Unfortunately, I don't have any tutorials, most of my videos are just random stuff from my training sessions. If you look at my channel's "Community" section, I have posted links to the videos I used for the training, maybe these will be helpful. Also, you can check James Bush page m-gymkhana.com/ he is quite active in motogymkhana stage in the USA. E.g. I see he organized some event in May quite close to Los Angeles, so you keep an eye on his page :).
Once a week I run one single practice which contains all. Dowload photo pattern for "Satokana GP" and you only need 4 cones and two for start line, or just tennis balls.
@@MujoNovak Yes, Satokana GP is a nice track, I would say a little bit on the harder side for beginners :). The thing that adds new fun to the action is the timer- dump a few cones, make a track layout with 2-4 elements, and run against the clock. You will go crazy experimenting and trying new stuff to shave a few seconds/milliseconds from your "personal best"! Later you can try to run some "standard" MG layouts (Pita GP, Umigame GP etc) or join online competitions e.g. MgymFun OLC mgym.fun/online/CurrentRound.php
Are you using that back brake and dragging it while doing the full lock corners? Winters coming here so I don't have many riding days left :( but I want to get out and practice this stuff. I can ride fairly decently as pretty slow speeds, corner and U turn full lock. I have a preference for turning to the left for some reason though it just feels more natural where as turning right something seems like its soff balance. Just more stuff to iron out. But as for crawling in traffic I'm getting good and doing that thing you did as a kid on a bicycle when you were riding beside your friend who was walking turning that front wheel back and forth to keep steady lmao.
Hi, yes, I use rear brake during last phase of the turn. I would say this is not "draging", but more like "pulsing"- keep throttle little bit open and then modulate rear depending on speed/lean. If you haven't bumped yet onto Mogy's videos, please check link below, it shows quite nicely when and how front, rear and throttle is used during the turn. Thanks for comment :).
Mogy video on how controls are used ua-cam.com/video/vCvMpO4YLtI/v-deo.html
This is more on rinning GP8, but lot of good ideas of cotrols use www.gymkhana.kiev.ua/how-to-get-under-30-sec-on-gp8-gymkhana-layout/
Thanks for the video!
Can you tell me usually how is this practice session looks like? For example you do 4x5 round lean angle for each side etc.
Hi, I don't have that strict training routine, but for the first half of training I usually do lot of repetitions of simple elements. For the second half I usually build one of "basic" MG course and do some timed runs. For example, start with something completely basic like "ovals". Or just place one cone and do 180 turns. Or 360 rotations. Or simple weave between two cones... The goal is to repeat same element many times to build "muscle memory". I also usually record my training to have visual feedback, this is how these youtube videos are born :). I have put few links for inspiration with MG elements, standard MG courses and Martijn Stapelbroek explaining "ovals". Have great fun and angle :).
Basic elements motogymkhanaswiss.ch/elements/
Basic MG tracks gymkhana-cup.com/competitions/results?by=figure
Martjin Stapebroek explains "ovals" ua-cam.com/video/8g5zGRIhnBo/v-deo.html
what's the suggested distance for cones? 10'' ?
Don't remember exactly, but it must be ~10-12m for two cone setup and ~7m for L shaped course. There is standard motogymkhana layout called GP8 often used for training and skill evaluation, it is two cones 12m apart. I personally make various combinations of training courses around that distance. You can check more ideas for track elements and layouts here motogymkhanaswiss.ch/parcours-figures/ .
Interesting no body counter balance.
Yes, in motogymkhana style riding the concept of "lean with the bike" is quite popular. That means you don't move too much on the bike sideways and stay more less centered. I added a few links on my channel community section with playlists about Japanese riding techniques, also this video quite well explains the concept ua-cam.com/video/QAH4ml5B79Q/v-deo.html
Are you feathering front brake during full lock turn, or just covering lever?
I use front brake to drop the speed and get front forks turning. As turn radius decreases I gradually release front brake and let it go completely when FL (or near FL) is achieved- so at this point only covering front brake to support my hand and keep throttle steady. Then during the turn you modulate rear brake to adjust speed and angle.
You can try this first phase by yourself- roll steady at ~20-25kmh, lean the bike and start the turn not changing the speed. Then (very very gently :)!) start adding front brake. You will feel how the handlebars starts turning more and more without any input from your side (or you will feel how handlebar pushes your hand if you hold too tightly).
The turn sequence I mentioned is kind of basic approach, pro guys have their own ways of doing their magic. E.g. using front brake during FL turn or not using brakes at all :). But these are advanced riding techniques and they are beyond my understanding :)... Please check links below for inspiration:
Front and rear brake use ua-cam.com/video/UHbyWQBDIBA/v-deo.html
Front, rear and throttle coordination ua-cam.com/video/vCvMpO4YLtI/v-deo.html
No hands FL rotations ua-cam.com/video/90BxTrAADi4/v-deo.html
@@KestasLi The no-hands GSXR guy is impressive.