Test drove the top spec TS last week.. Response was surprisingly good in sports sharp..Quick up changes and rev matching on the down shifts.. if you didn't know it was a CVT you would never pick it.. also active dampers make city driving very comfortable and country driving more exhilarating.. black or dark grey colour definitely neutralises the effect of the cladding.. if you're not a petrol head or a cashed up bogan and want a bit of added refinement then this could be the car for you
I’m actually test driving one tomorrow Paul with my brother! He’s the one buying. I’m just the copilot.😈 Personally I reckon the plastic flared guards should be colour coded. Anyway looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.😎👍🏻 P.s. My 2018 manual Bullitt has radar cruise & auto braking.
@@CarExpertAus it's not impossible it's just not welcome or necessary. Features like that allow people to be more complacent and pay less attention to the road than they already do. These autopilot type features are the worst thing to happen to the automotive industry in recent times imo.
I’ve had a 2022 WRX for 2 months now and have 2,000 miles on it. It is a fantastic car in every way. For reference, I also own a half ton truck, a C5 corvette, a late model Pacifica and a Dodge Challenger. The WRX literally has no weaknesses. It’s fast, it has room for car seats, it has a decent size of trunk, it has great ground clearance, it gets awesome fuel economy (just got 33 mpg on a 4 hr road trip running 87 octane!) it can be driven in the winter, and it looks good! The black fender flares look awesome, as I like the rally heritage of the WRX, not the tuner looks most of the other guys do.
You don't get the sound you want from the car because the setup is totally different, your header's aren't like the old Rex for a reason. It uses a twin scroll turbo for less lag and a bit more power so the exhaust and header's are set up to suit. That's why on the last model it was the same other than the STI. The STI used the old engine with the different length header's and exhaust. The newer cars are not designed for that. It is a much better engine but unfortunately without the noise you want. I have a 2017 WRX, and when you plant your foot down, you do get a beautiful note, just not the old school one. You can also hear that larger twin scroll turbo as well. There is nothing wrong with the sound of my car.
I love the design of the new 2012 Honda Civic. Also,. I'm glad they didn't put any safety features on the manual. If you buy a manual car then it's a drivers car. Pay attention to the road. It does get expensive to fix those features when they break
I would truly recommend that Subaru adapt the interior dashboard and display screen of either the Outback or WRX into the Forester. The Dual Screen design of the current Forester is looks clutters and slapped together. The dashboards and display screens in these two vehicles out shine the one in the Forester.
Waiting on them to make an Impreza version of this without the excessive bodykit. The base design of the car looks good and the interior finally shed its million buttons and looks Volvo-esque. Leave it to Subaru to put a droney CVT and a lifeless 2.0 NA engine on the regular car though… can’t we just have a 2.0T, a 6/8sp auto and no body kit as a nice daily sports luxe sedan?
I think you will be waiting a while.. although subaru has no sense or care about what their performance market wants so they might do something crazy like that
Hey just wanted to add that I just bought this exact car and I get it next week and it cost me $56K not the $50k or so you quoted but over all I agree with the exhaust I didn’t want a quite car I wanted to hear the chooooooo chnooooo sound lol now I have to go aftermarket which WILL void warranty , very sad
Paul, shoulda gone to spec savers, Subaru has gone the way of Toyota over the last 10 years, it looks very boring, the back looks like a cardigan camry, CVT that explains it all, it's been designed by bean counters.
A lot of these new safety features are dangerous like the radar it'll stop you on the middle of a roundabout because it sees another car and also touch screens should be legal in all cars why because you take your eyes off the road to look at your touch screen to a change settings plus a lot of people nowadays adapted them so they can watch movies in facetime people while they're driving Get rid of touch screens and go back to dials A lot safer
the plastic trim around the arches really isnt a wrx, if you can get painted thats great. that sort of trim stuff that belongs on mid priced suvs. sportswagon looks like a good choice for me.
Who ever designs for Subaru needs to be fired. They always come out with below average specifications, design and performance. It's only a few more tweaks and they can revive the brand for what it was back in the 00s.
I think the main problem for people (including myself) is the overuse of the grey plastic cladding, particularly on the rear bumper. If some of it was still body coloured, it would look better
Test drove it on Tuesday, it's immeasurably better than the previous generation in every way. I cannot believe how much better the clutch and gearbox are. It's like not even a WRX where you expect it to be unpolished and kind of crappy lol. Subaru knocked it out of the park, I was a MEGA hater when it came out too.
It does not deserve the WRX badge, Subaru is gone backwards with this one, what were they thinking or on? it looks, feels and sounds like another 4cly car on the road, its suppose to be different from the rest of the cars on the road, sorry to say Paul but you do need to go to spec savers.
im all for the manual usually. After test driving both the cvt and manual extensively prior to purchase i found the cvt was excellent and completely blew me away. Total surprise. Power delivery was instant and very satisfying, no typical cvt rubber bandy feeling of acceleration. The simulated shifts were immediate, the car gave me the right revs seemlessly in every situation (cornering, braking etc). Guys they really have nailed this cvt for this vehicle I hate to say it. Being an older driver probably plays a part in my decision as I just couldnt be stuffed rowing my own gears some days, and prefer to hold a coffee. But... if i wanto have a bit of fun I can throw it in sport# and use the paddles to rip up a back road.... best of both worlds. SO in the end it was the cvt by a long shot. BTW the manual was also excellent and much better than the previous gen. As far as the manual being better for staged power upgrades. Well again im getting older so chasing power for essentially what is a street car to me seems pointless. Stock power is plenty for the street, and then some.
Subaru is being a tight arse with this cars exterior plastics, space saver spare tyre and the infotainment system should never lag on new cars. 🤦 Car manufacturers need to go back to the days of simply building cars so we can toss out their crap radios and upgrade them for custom stereo systems.
I dont understand some choices, they put a harmon kardon sound system and use a low quality infotainment screen? And what about that cd player, i think they should've used the money to put something more useful inside the car...makes no sense. Their luck is ppl buy it more for the driving experience and ends up overlooking all these points, but i think Subaru should try to deliver a bit more.
Why they aren’t putting a manual in the wagon is beyond me. I’d sign up tomorrow if there was an option. The engine seems great even if the sound is lacking.
I came in expecting somewhat to be disappointed, and came out feeling the same. Feels like a poor mans WRX, just doesnt do it for me, Im sure its a nice car but it doesnt have that WOW factor for me, my personal opinion.
Honestly the front styling is growing on me, the black plastic cladding will probably date the styling pretty hard once manufacturers decide painted cladding is the next styling 'thing' for SUVs
I live in northern Canada where you are driving in deep snow and dirt roads and the cladding is going to be huge at preventing paint chipping/rusting. I got a black one coming in September.
The thing I hate the most is the black plastic cladding thats been over used everywhere. SUV trends on sporty Sedans! At least the plastic cladding isnt on the Wagon version
I think what I hate the most is that this car is what Subaru deemed to be so good we no longer needed an sti. All of these other brands are coming out with better sportier cars, Subaru is like but we have Awd.
Went to the dealership yesterday. The rear bumper is terrible. In person, there is no improvement. I could have done a better job and I don’t often say this about anything.
Carplay seems quite laggy to me, wired only ugh... and only USB A? I don't even own a non-C lightning cable anymore... and really a CD player, what is this 2000s? Seriously wouldn't of cost much to modernise that a bit more. Rest of stuff I could live with.
That is the power as tested on regular fuel. If you put premium fuel, particularly 98 Ron (93 octane) the power and smoothness increases significantly. Reviewers that only have access to 91 octane also have a slight power increase, albeit less than the 93 octane: this year’s wrx is very octane sensitive, so much so that you hear people getting gains just putting more ethanol in the tank. Octane booster works too.
Also, I want to mention that the break-inperiod affects the boost. For the first 1000 miles (I.e. test drives) you get 12 psi (which is what car reviewers advertise). Somehow, after that, you get upwards of 14 psi, or more power. This is not advertised
Just for context: I have personally been able to clock 5.6 seconds to sixty in just sport mode on the cvt model-in the rain. The power is underrated. I have video to prove it.
The only thing Subaru have meaningfully changed in the last 20 years is the price. Quality is okay, design is non-existent, engine upgrade is laughable. 20 years ago I had one. This new one is very similar to my 20 year old car (which was faster). Buy a golf for the money - much better car. I wouldn’t pay over 40k for one of these.
You must be the only one who likes the look of that rear bumper Paul. With regards to the exhaust, must be a dealer option being considered for the tbsti Australia special coming...
For me it just resembles a standard saloon car like many, at least they kept the front scoop to let people know it's a Subaru. What's with the brakes and rear spoiler? I've driven Impreza's since 2000 owning 3 Sti one Wrx and a 2000 Turbo and this for me is going backwards, I would rather buy my own Sti Hawkeye from myself. 😉
@@TheCortassa i need awd because i like to drive a sports car but i live in Vermont so we get snow and ice for 4 or 5 months of the year i want a nice snappy daily driver that can carve the back roads but also get me to work and the ski hill in all weather. Wrx sti was what i wanted for the best price point at the time. Don't get me wrong i love the fiesta even not in st form. I had more fun in an standard fiesta on dirt than i ever had in my previous wrx and i used to drive light fwd cars in vt winters but i just prefer a bit extra weight and the awd. The fiesta is a nice nimble little car. It's too bad i heard they discontinued them as well.
The WRX is the only modern sports car without a proper built-in launch control system for either transmission, and it’s the only car where the Automatic option is slower than the manual option 0-100 (roll on is different) because they decided to go with a CVT, sorry “SPT”, rather than a proper transmission for a performance car like a DCT or ZF Auto. Factory claimed 0-100 time is 6 seconds flat, which is slower than a WRX of 20-25 years ago, which is shocking as it is the only performance car that gets slower overtime due to every new generation getting heavier with no to very minimal increase in power from factory, I mean they jumped from a 2.0L to a 2.4L and could only extract an extra 5kW and no increase in torque while a GR Yaris/Corolla pumps out 200-220kW and 370Nm from a tiny 1.6L 3 banger. Most people would get high 6s-low 7s while doing a 0-100 test, if you want to achieve the factory claim you’ll have to really abuse the transmission especially in the manual to achieve that.
Hi Paul. I really enjoyed your write up. I've had mine about a month now after trading my BRZ2020. I really enjoyed watching you smile on the drive as they are the reasons my WRX makes me smile. I find it very ballsy. I like for now the fact it is quiet but may upgrade the exhaust down the track. Thanks for the camera tip, didn't see that. She is my daily and I am so happy that I upgraded and grabbed an icon. I really like the outer, it does grow on you. Thanks for the info, di
Have a 16 STI and was eagerly waiting for the next gen WRX. Not only did they let us down on this new Gen but also killed the STI along with it. Now I m waiting for my Proto Z to arrive. Sorry Subaru
I saw one of these in person the other day and I agree that it doesn't look as bad. Really want one of these now :( Going to be saving up for the next 7-8 years before I get one I think. Manual ICE cars are just so much more fun to drive than an EV would be I think (although I've never driven an EV).
eh, they could have done much better. - The exterior plastic cladding is all grey. It needs to be broken up by some silver, paint and gloss black. - The lack of AEB on a manual car is poor. Just stall the engine if you have to, at least it saves you from an accident - The CD Player is completely redudant yet it takes up 50% of the space in the centre console. - The interior display is vertical despite most programs being optimised for a horizontal screen. For example, the side and front reverse camera could have been stacked and made larger on this vertical display, but they chose to make it smaller and then have blank spaces all around it. However, I believe Android Auto will be updated soon to work better with the vertical screens. - The interior seats have a purple colour which looks over 20 years old.
It’s always bizarre that cars at this price point lack basic safety features that cars far cheaper have. It shouldn’t just be accepted. I’m also not sold on the looks on this years model.
You mean eyesight, and stuff where it moves the wheel for you? The only thing systems like that do is make the road less safe for everyone. It just allows people to not pay attention and stare at their phone more while driving. I think those so called safety features are the worst thing to ever happen to cars
Paul, those safety controls are more of a nuisance. The autobraking in my BMW almost gave me seatbelt wiplash. And those auto lane control, have you tried using that in suburban roads
Test drove the top spec TS last week.. Response was surprisingly good in sports sharp..Quick up changes and rev matching on the down shifts.. if you didn't know it was a CVT you would never pick it.. also active dampers make city driving very comfortable and country driving more exhilarating.. black or dark grey colour definitely neutralises the effect of the cladding.. if you're not a petrol head or a cashed up bogan and want a bit of added refinement then this could be the car for you
I think anyone can pick if it was a CVT or manual bud
It is a boring, slow, soft car. Should not have a WRX badge on it.
@@DaFatYakthink he was referring to torque convetor transmission vs cvt
Looks like a cheap plastic toy. Subaru engineering & design grow up!
Pretty solid car I reckon. You either like em or hate em. I like it. Thanks again Paul. I really like your style. Has to be a manual
Thanks and agreed!
I’m actually test driving one tomorrow Paul with my brother! He’s the one buying. I’m just the copilot.😈 Personally I reckon the plastic flared guards should be colour coded. Anyway looking forward to seeing one in the flesh.😎👍🏻 P.s. My 2018 manual Bullitt has radar cruise & auto braking.
Enjoy! And yes - you're right, it's not impossible to do with manuals.
@@CarExpertAus it's not impossible it's just not welcome or necessary. Features like that allow people to be more complacent and pay less attention to the road than they already do. These autopilot type features are the worst thing to happen to the automotive industry in recent times imo.
I’ve had a 2022 WRX for 2 months now and have 2,000 miles on it. It is a fantastic car in every way. For reference, I also own a half ton truck, a C5 corvette, a late model Pacifica and a Dodge Challenger. The WRX literally has no weaknesses. It’s fast, it has room for car seats, it has a decent size of trunk, it has great ground clearance, it gets awesome fuel economy (just got 33 mpg on a 4 hr road trip running 87 octane!) it can be driven in the winter, and it looks good! The black fender flares look awesome, as I like the rally heritage of the WRX, not the tuner looks most of the other guys do.
Just because it can run on 87 doesn’t make it a good idea . Higher grade has better knock protection.
Thanks for sharing your real world experience.
I cannot forgive Suburu for that budget Honda rear end, my lord what were they thinking.
You don't get the sound you want from the car because the setup is totally different, your header's aren't like the old Rex for a reason. It uses a twin scroll turbo for less lag and a bit more power so the exhaust and header's are set up to suit. That's why on the last model it was the same other than the STI. The STI used the old engine with the different length header's and exhaust. The newer cars are not designed for that. It is a much better engine but unfortunately without the noise you want. I have a 2017 WRX, and when you plant your foot down, you do get a beautiful note, just not the old school one. You can also hear that larger twin scroll turbo as well. There is nothing wrong with the sound of my car.
I love the design of the new 2012 Honda Civic. Also,. I'm glad they didn't put any safety features on the manual. If you buy a manual car then it's a drivers car. Pay attention to the road. It does get expensive to fix those features when they break
The rear looks a bit fussy.
I would truly recommend that Subaru adapt the interior dashboard and display screen of either the Outback or WRX into the Forester. The Dual Screen design of the current Forester is looks clutters and slapped together. The dashboards and display screens in these two vehicles out shine the one in the Forester.
Can’t believe this thing is as quick as my old Toyota aurion, what’s more hilarious tho is fuel economy is pretty much similar as well,.
AURION'S are quick ,a jewel of an engine.
@@perpetualgrin5804 yes, but handling is pretty shit.
Yea in a straight line the aurion was quick
Can't remember last time i used a 💿 CD !
The screen is too big. Personally I think it should 10 inch max horizontally put. I'm not a fan of big screens in vehicles.
The rear reminds me of 2020 Honda Civic
Waiting on them to make an Impreza version of this without the excessive bodykit. The base design of the car looks good and the interior finally shed its million buttons and looks Volvo-esque. Leave it to Subaru to put a droney CVT and a lifeless 2.0 NA engine on the regular car though… can’t we just have a 2.0T, a 6/8sp auto and no body kit as a nice daily sports luxe sedan?
I think you will be waiting a while.. although subaru has no sense or care about what their performance market wants so they might do something crazy like that
classic manual sports car, l am old school, l like the analogue gauges and all wheel drive.
The previous gen looked much better. If the looks of a car have to grow on you, it's most likely not a good looking car.
Brake lights look like last gen civic.
Congratulations on the car 🚗. I pass on my new wrx RS manual 🙌 l just didn't like all the plastic and the entertainment system specifically the screen
Hey just wanted to add that I just bought this exact car and I get it next week and it cost me $56K not the $50k or so you quoted but over all I agree with the exhaust I didn’t want a quite car I wanted to hear the chooooooo chnooooo sound lol now I have to go aftermarket which WILL void warranty , very sad
No front and rear parking sensors… geez for $45-$50k you would expect that
Yea- those wheel arches look blegh. It's not an SUV bot those flat topped arches look horrendous. Colour-coded and circular would be better.
Wow - 0-100kph is 2 seconds slower than the Stinger - how things have changed eh!
@@1977xc it's still slightly slower than the previous gen
One word - Emasculating.
Paul, shoulda gone to spec savers, Subaru has gone the way of Toyota over the last 10 years, it looks very boring, the back looks like a cardigan camry, CVT that explains it all, it's been designed by bean counters.
I haven't gotten it yet, but I did buy the cvt cause I got a dodgy left hip 🤣
No rear air? In 2023???
A lot of these new safety features are dangerous like the radar it'll stop you on the middle of a roundabout because it sees another car and also touch screens should be legal in all cars why because you take your eyes off the road to look at your touch screen to a change settings plus a lot of people nowadays adapted them so they can watch movies in facetime people while they're driving Get rid of touch screens and go back to dials A lot safer
Unfortunately it does not look good. That is why i am keeping my 2019.
In person if looks great
is this sapphire blue or blue pearl?
Would be cool to see wagon review of this model, and more wagons in general for people who rather drive a wagon instead of suv.
The wagon version this a totally different car on a different platform
Wow a wRX that’s not a Rex and the 0-100 almost as slow as the BRZ .. Nice 😌
Boo car still trash!!! But great review thank you.
Spend the extra money and get a Cupra Formentor
get your eye's checked!
Wow what an average car, seems like this could have been released one or two generations ago
The interior looks kinda like volvo
the plastic trim around the arches really isnt a wrx, if you can get painted thats great. that sort of trim stuff that belongs on mid priced suvs. sportswagon looks like a good choice for me.
Hey paul, i m waiting for your review of mercedes eqc 400, mate... 😊
Who ever designs for Subaru needs to be fired. They always come out with below average specifications, design and performance.
It's only a few more tweaks and they can revive the brand for what it was back in the 00s.
I think the main problem for people (including myself) is the overuse of the grey plastic cladding, particularly on the rear bumper. If some of it was still body coloured, it would look better
aka. the "prolapse" design philosophy for the rear bar
Makes it look like a forester
Gives it a rugged look, people are painting them tho, and they look good too painted, a lot cleaner
my wrx came in black plastic cladding, must be lucky!
No modern safety features for a 50k car. What a joke
Test drove it on Tuesday, it's immeasurably better than the previous generation in every way. I cannot believe how much better the clutch and gearbox are. It's like not even a WRX where you expect it to be unpolished and kind of crappy lol. Subaru knocked it out of the park, I was a MEGA hater when it came out too.
Absolutely love the channel Paul and the rest of the team!
Thanks mate!
Subaru are making cars in 2022 like its 2002. Still stuck in the past while everyone else is moving ahead of them.
It does not deserve the WRX badge, Subaru is gone backwards with this one, what were they thinking or on? it looks, feels and sounds like another 4cly car on the road, its suppose to be different from the rest of the cars on the road, sorry to say Paul but you do need to go to spec savers.
im all for the manual usually. After test driving both the cvt and manual extensively prior to purchase i found the cvt was excellent and completely blew me away. Total surprise. Power delivery was instant and very satisfying, no typical cvt rubber bandy feeling of acceleration. The simulated shifts were immediate, the car gave me the right revs seemlessly in every situation (cornering, braking etc). Guys they really have nailed this cvt for this vehicle I hate to say it. Being an older driver probably plays a part in my decision as I just couldnt be stuffed rowing my own gears some days, and prefer to hold a coffee. But... if i wanto have a bit of fun I can throw it in sport# and use the paddles to rip up a back road.... best of both worlds. SO in the end it was the cvt by a long shot. BTW the manual was also excellent and much better than the previous gen. As far as the manual being better for staged power upgrades. Well again im getting older so chasing power for essentially what is a street car to me seems pointless. Stock power is plenty for the street, and then some.
Thanks, great info
Subaru is being a tight arse with this cars exterior plastics, space saver spare tyre and the infotainment system should never lag on new cars. 🤦
Car manufacturers need to go back to the days of simply building cars so we can toss out their crap radios and upgrade them for custom stereo systems.
Honestly, I've owned a MY06 and a MY12 WRX, and this new one is just disappointing from all aspects. In my humble opinion, the WRX died in 2014.
my 98 is the classic
Really trying to get past those wheel arches.....nope can't do it 😂
Looks better in flesh on the road,
Driving it 🤣
Why does Subaru always shit the bed with their interiors? The only decent thing I see is the seats
That’s funny I checked one out in person and hated the seats, that would be one of the first things I changed.
I dont understand some choices, they put a harmon kardon sound system and use a low quality infotainment screen? And what about that cd player, i think they should've used the money to put something more useful inside the car...makes no sense. Their luck is ppl buy it more for the driving experience and ends up overlooking all these points, but i think Subaru should try to deliver a bit more.
Cladding is ugly
More STi styling may change my opinion
Did Subaru get the wheel arch cladding from Supercheap auto? RIP boxer sound
Why they aren’t putting a manual in the wagon is beyond me. I’d sign up tomorrow if there was an option. The engine seems great even if the sound is lacking.
I came in expecting somewhat to be disappointed, and came out feeling the same. Feels like a poor mans WRX, just doesnt do it for me, Im sure its a nice car but it doesnt have that WOW factor for me, my personal opinion.
looks pretty nice especially in this dark colors at least it has a turbocharged 4 cylinder and 6 speed manual variant
Honestly the front styling is growing on me, the black plastic cladding will probably date the styling pretty hard once manufacturers decide painted cladding is the next styling 'thing' for SUVs
If you're in 1998
I live in northern Canada where you are driving in deep snow and dirt roads and the cladding is going to be huge at preventing paint chipping/rusting. I got a black one coming in September.
subaru ... yawn, black plastic inside and out everywhere...yawn, cvt...yawn. toyota chr want their tail lights back too btw.
That rear end 🤮Also the rear looks like a Honda Civic.
The thing I hate the most is the black plastic cladding thats been over used everywhere. SUV trends on sporty Sedans! At least the plastic cladding isnt on the Wagon version
I think what I hate the most is that this car is what Subaru deemed to be so good we no longer needed an sti. All of these other brands are coming out with better sportier cars, Subaru is like but we have Awd.
Went to the dealership yesterday. The rear bumper is terrible. In person, there is no improvement. I could have done a better job and I don’t often say this about anything.
I tested one while my Sti was getting serviced, ugly outside unimpressive inside.
Carplay seems quite laggy to me, wired only ugh... and only USB A? I don't even own a non-C lightning cable anymore... and really a CD player, what is this 2000s? Seriously wouldn't of cost much to modernise that a bit more. Rest of stuff I could live with.
If I'm not mistaken one of the few cars in history where the new succeeding models are slower 0-100km.
202kw from 2.4 litres is pretty weedy compared to a GR Yaris or incoming GR Corolla
Or even compared to the previous generation wrx... they gained half a litre of displacement and yet only gained 3hp... and also lost about 5mpg
That is the power as tested on regular fuel. If you put premium fuel, particularly 98 Ron (93 octane) the power and smoothness increases significantly. Reviewers that only have access to 91 octane also have a slight power increase, albeit less than the 93 octane: this year’s wrx is very octane sensitive, so much so that you hear people getting gains just putting more ethanol in the tank. Octane booster works too.
Also, I want to mention that the break-inperiod affects the boost. For the first 1000 miles (I.e. test drives) you get 12 psi (which is what car reviewers advertise). Somehow, after that, you get upwards of 14 psi, or more power. This is not advertised
Just for context: I have personally been able to clock 5.6 seconds to sixty in just sport mode on the cvt model-in the rain. The power is underrated. I have video to prove it.
The only thing Subaru have meaningfully changed in the last 20 years is the price.
Quality is okay, design is non-existent, engine upgrade is laughable.
20 years ago I had one. This new one is very similar to my 20 year old car (which was faster).
Buy a golf for the money - much better car. I wouldn’t pay over 40k for one of these.
Personally hate the black cladding around the wheel arches.
Would love to compare this with the Hyundai i30N sedan
It ruins the entire car’s design honestly.
Nice reviews Paul. You can probably use a decibel measuring device to measure the cabin noise, so that there is a figure to compare between cars
nice honda
so my 2016 wrx has a faster 0-60 at 5.6 seconds nice
Yep, this is slower, softer, heavier, uglier, thirstier, and more expensive than the previous gen. Well done subaru.
50K for this is a joke
just buy a i30 sedan N. People are reporting 330hp @ the crank.
You must be the only one who likes the look of that rear bumper Paul. With regards to the exhaust, must be a dealer option being considered for the tbsti Australia special coming...
For me it just resembles a standard saloon car like many, at least they kept the front scoop to let people know it's a Subaru.
What's with the brakes and rear spoiler? I've driven Impreza's since 2000 owning 3 Sti one Wrx and a 2000 Turbo and this for me is going backwards, I would rather buy my own Sti Hawkeye from myself. 😉
wow how unimpressive 0-100 in 6.7 seconds? Subaru is going backwards in terms of performance?
A car that feels 10 yrs old at launch. Only a WRX can do that!
When a wrx is as quick 0-100 as a Fiesta St in 2022 😂😂
Fiesta st is better power to weight ratio than any newer wrx so that is not surprising
@@ianholmquist8492 WRX is also All wheel drive which is pathetic if you ask me
@@TheCortassa i need awd because i like to drive a sports car but i live in Vermont so we get snow and ice for 4 or 5 months of the year i want a nice snappy daily driver that can carve the back roads but also get me to work and the ski hill in all weather. Wrx sti was what i wanted for the best price point at the time. Don't get me wrong i love the fiesta even not in st form. I had more fun in an standard fiesta on dirt than i ever had in my previous wrx and i used to drive light fwd cars in vt winters but i just prefer a bit extra weight and the awd. The fiesta is a nice nimble little car. It's too bad i heard they discontinued them as well.
Tune , down pipe , intake , exhaust will fix that
The WRX is the only modern sports car without a proper built-in launch control system for either transmission, and it’s the only car where the Automatic option is slower than the manual option 0-100 (roll on is different) because they decided to go with a CVT, sorry “SPT”, rather than a proper transmission for a performance car like a DCT or ZF Auto.
Factory claimed 0-100 time is 6 seconds flat, which is slower than a WRX of 20-25 years ago, which is shocking as it is the only performance car that gets slower overtime due to every new generation getting heavier with no to very minimal increase in power from factory, I mean they jumped from a 2.0L to a 2.4L and could only extract an extra 5kW and no increase in torque while a GR Yaris/Corolla pumps out 200-220kW and 370Nm from a tiny 1.6L 3 banger.
Most people would get high 6s-low 7s while doing a 0-100 test, if you want to achieve the factory claim you’ll have to really abuse the transmission especially in the manual to achieve that.
Hi Paul. I really enjoyed your write up. I've had mine about a month now after trading my BRZ2020. I really enjoyed watching you smile on the drive as they are the reasons my WRX makes me smile. I find it very ballsy. I like for now the fact it is quiet but may upgrade the exhaust down the track. Thanks for the camera tip, didn't see that. She is my daily and I am so happy that I upgraded and grabbed an icon. I really like the outer, it does grow on you. Thanks for the info, di
It's not pretty.
Is it just me or the rear basically looks like a Honda Civic? 👀
Have a 16 STI and was eagerly waiting for the next gen WRX. Not only did they let us down on this new Gen but also killed the STI along with it. Now I m waiting for my Proto Z to arrive. Sorry Subaru
To make things worse they going to whore out the STI name on all the wanky styling accessories for Wrx hatch and Forester.
I saw one of these in person the other day and I agree that it doesn't look as bad. Really want one of these now :( Going to be saving up for the next 7-8 years before I get one I think. Manual ICE cars are just so much more fun to drive than an EV would be I think (although I've never driven an EV).
I've seen these in person and the cladding still doesn't work for me. The wagon looks lightyears better.
The wagon looks nice!
god have mercy on our eyes. Disgraceful looking car.
That's like a Rx More than wrx. No big spoiler, fake diffuser, small normal brake. No thanks
WRX is totally not worth the money anymore.
The plastic dash, the count tray and the cup holders are what kill it for me so bad so half assed
Some of the safety technology is overrated.
eh, they could have done much better.
- The exterior plastic cladding is all grey. It needs to be broken up by some silver, paint and gloss black.
- The lack of AEB on a manual car is poor. Just stall the engine if you have to, at least it saves you from an accident
- The CD Player is completely redudant yet it takes up 50% of the space in the centre console.
- The interior display is vertical despite most programs being optimised for a horizontal screen. For example, the side and front reverse camera could have been stacked and made larger on this vertical display, but they chose to make it smaller and then have blank spaces all around it. However, I believe Android Auto will be updated soon to work better with the vertical screens.
- The interior seats have a purple colour which looks over 20 years old.
no wireless phone mirroring
Great review Paul. I really like it. Might be on my next new car list. Keen to see what the CVT model is like.
Not great!
Would not recommend the CVT, go for an 130n with a DCT.
So, so much black plastic, and the prolapsed rear bar - yikes. Wonder if it's a bit easier to swallow with black paint?!
It’s always bizarre that cars at this price point lack basic safety features that cars far cheaper have. It shouldn’t just be accepted. I’m also not sold on the looks on this years model.
You mean eyesight, and stuff where it moves the wheel for you? The only thing systems like that do is make the road less safe for everyone. It just allows people to not pay attention and stare at their phone more while driving. I think those so called safety features are the worst thing to ever happen to cars
Dear lord ..looks like the love child of a RAV4 and civic
What's the age group for these cars? Earlier WRX seemed to be 20-30 years old. Seems to me it would be a great family car, but at 50 years old?
Looks like a family car. Destroyed it.
Remove the badges, add a high rear spoiler and you have yourself a new Civic type R
civic type R is front wheel drive
I don't think Paul has said "a little disappointing" this many times in a single video...
Paul, those safety controls are more of a nuisance. The autobraking in my BMW almost gave me seatbelt wiplash. And those auto lane control, have you tried using that in suburban roads
Back end screams Toyota Camry…