A History of Pre-Warp Alien Contact In Star Trek

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  • Through time travel and random encounters, many Star Trek aliens have visited Earth through the ages. A surprising number of those visits happen before the famed First Contact with the Vulcans in 2063.
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    Here is a chronological listing of every known pre-warp alien encounter in the Star Trek multiverse.
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  • @Deadeye313
    @Deadeye313 8 років тому +313

    +1 for O'Brien hating temporal mechanics.

    • @christopherwatkins9817
      @christopherwatkins9817 4 роки тому

      What about the Klingon and also the suliban in the very first episode of enterprise

    • @christopherwatkins9817
      @christopherwatkins9817 4 роки тому +1

      I mean I know it's Enterprise but Jesus Christ man. Talkin about Klingons and suliban and the premiere of the first episode of that series

    • @pwnmeisterage
      @pwnmeisterage 4 роки тому +1

      Earth already had warp drive (ECS star freighters) and first contact (with Vulcans) in ENT.

    • @hedf
      @hedf 3 роки тому +2

      @@pwnmeisterage yes, enterprise nx01 was the first warp5 starship. Not the first warp driven spacecraft.

  • @Djarra
    @Djarra 7 років тому +5

    The people who sent the probe in 'Star Trek IV' to talk to the Humpbacks, given that Humpbacks went extinct before First Contact (going by Spock's dialogue) and that the aliens who built the probe must have had some contact with the Whales before, that probably happened in pre history, those guys deserve some sort of mention. Even if their contact wasn't with humans.

  • @scottc346
    @scottc346 8 років тому +195

    You forgot the Beverly Crusher episode "Sub Rosa" where the alien entity has been stalking the Howard women over the centuries.

    • @rosedruid
      @rosedruid 8 років тому +8

      I think that was meant to imply that the family had been off earth for a long time. Colonies started just after warp travel would count as centuries for TNG but barely.

    • @scottc346
      @scottc346 8 років тому +33

      +Drew Stevenson Nope. He was known to have existed since at least 1647, when he took up residence with Jessel Howard shortly after appearing in the city of Glasgow on Earth. en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Ronin I do believe the Earth year 1647 was pre-warp. Bow down to my Trek Nerdness!!!

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster 8 років тому +2

      Yeah I was thinking about the Howard 'Ghost' too.

    • @MuscleDad420
      @MuscleDad420 7 років тому +4

      Scott C haha dang that was a stupid episode

    • @llongone2
      @llongone2 7 років тому +16

      I just think every tries to forget "Sub Rosa". That's why it's not on this list.

  • @Meleoffs
    @Meleoffs 9 років тому +72

    I lost it at "Earth: We are not for eating"

    • @DaraGaming42
      @DaraGaming42 3 роки тому

      apparently where a delicey in 7 Galaxys

    • @kleinjahr
      @kleinjahr 3 роки тому

      On the other hand there is a very popular book, How to Serve Man.

  • @andrewarias1673
    @andrewarias1673 8 років тому +462

    I consider the first "contact" between humans and aliens is when Q dips his hand in the primordial "goo" that would one day become humans in the TNG finale. :P :P :P

    • @Sekhubara
      @Sekhubara 8 років тому +16

      Andrew Arias WHAAAAA??? Nothing else can touch that.

    • @wecvgb9
      @wecvgb9 8 років тому +5

      Andrew Arias Nice!

    • @todlauer7197
      @todlauer7197 8 років тому +53

      Andrew Arias Except in that timeline, the goo DIDN'T become life - the point of his visit was to show Picard that he had to act in the future for life to get started.

    • @AllThreeWitches
      @AllThreeWitches 8 років тому +4

      Yes. Just yes

    • @wannamontana4130
      @wannamontana4130 8 років тому +2

      Tod Lauer Very astute observation Tod

  • @TheGahta
    @TheGahta 8 років тому +45

    I would love if the idea of groups of time traveling people randomly meeting each other and screwing each others plot over would be explored in a movie ^^

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 4 роки тому +6

      I was picturing Kira and OBrien talking with Spock and kirk lol...
      and it takes a while, several hours of poker and drinking scotch or something...
      but eventually
      kirk: we can't tell them to much
      Spock: ... I better mind-meld with them and erase their memories.
      Kira: (jokingly mutters like a curse) Vulcans.
      Obrien: better raise our shields major...
      Spock and Kirk both are taken aback for a second before looking at each other
      spock: I dont know why you are talking about mountains but...
      kirk: shields? i didnt mention vulcans or shields....
      and kira and obrien could just roll eyes at each other
      O'Brien: I am just impressed we haven't erased our own existence yet
      Spock: surmises from that whats happening
      Spock just facepalms for the first time just when Jean Luc Picard and Q walk-in
      Q: see I told you, you cant leave humans alone or next thing you know they start screwing up the timeline just to play cards and drink a few scotches...
      Picard: ... I don't suppose you could shuffle a few more people who are out of places to stay at this time...
      Spock: the buy-in is 150
      ... and Picard just tosses a phaser on the table.
      kirk: well... I suppose that's good for the whole game.
      Kirk then examines it with delicacy and deep curiosity, comparing it to his own seeing the differences and figuring out how powerful and how long its charge lasts.
      Kira: I don't suppose you brought a time machine with you?
      Q: I am ... not sure that would help
      Picard: I am with a dynamic entry specialist i suppose you could say.
      oh... I sort of went off script... oh well...

    • @eleSDSU
      @eleSDSU 2 роки тому +1

      @@aurorauplinks I could hear John de Lancie making that pause in his last line haha

  • @KnaveMurdok
    @KnaveMurdok 8 років тому +116

    I would argue that Guinan's arrive to California is what MADE it cool.

    • @KnaveMurdok
      @KnaveMurdok 7 років тому +5

      got me there.

    • @AJZulu
      @AJZulu 7 років тому +1

      She made it cool before it was cool. She's the real hipster.

    • @JanikLitalien
      @JanikLitalien 7 років тому +3

      Then she joined "The View"

    • @LennerPOPPADOPALIS89
      @LennerPOPPADOPALIS89 7 років тому +3

      altha 2014 here we fucking go. 😒

  • @straycat1674
    @straycat1674 7 років тому +50

    May or may not count, but when the Borg went to earth, technically it could count as an untold number of species. Though at that point they are Borg.

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  7 років тому +15

      Hmmm...that is a fair point.

    • @sciohermetikum3902
      @sciohermetikum3902 5 років тому +1

      I still think Borg should be considered a technological virus instead of a race.

  • @MahsaKaerra
    @MahsaKaerra 8 років тому +70

    No mention of William Shakespeare?
    "You've not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon."

    • @90lancaster
      @90lancaster 8 років тому +13

      There was a story wasn't there about why Shakespeare disappears from History the Trek-splanation being The Klingon's kidnapped him as they saw his plays as a great complement to their taste for Opera & Violence in his works.
      Who knows maybe they actually do really know Shakespeare isn't Klingon but just wrote some of his Plays in Klingon First then translated them back to English when the Klingons eventually sent him home for whatever reason.
      There is also repeated suggestions in other Media that the Klingons visited the old west era - (in time not with time travel) that eventually influencing Worf's interest in the period too when he's showing it to Alexander.
      Alexander was also a Timetraveller and wasn't he also 1/8th Human too ? Never went to Earth though as far as I know as a Time travelller.

    • @Thutil
      @Thutil 7 років тому +5

      Alexander's parents were both half-Klingon/half-human, so he'd be half-and-half too.

    • @twlomega
      @twlomega 7 років тому +10

      Only K'Ehleyr was half human. Worf is full Klingon.

    • @jameswatsonatheistgamer
      @jameswatsonatheistgamer 5 років тому +1

      It's better in the original English.

    • @Garomation
      @Garomation 5 років тому +3

      @@90lancaster Alexander isn't 1/8th or 1/2 Klingon, he's 3/4.

  • @scotts.9329
    @scotts.9329 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you for using the term BCE "Before Common Era".

  • @mancamiatipoola
    @mancamiatipoola 5 років тому +2

    "Jadzia Dax, the alien nesting doll of Starfleet" made me laugh way too hard! TY for putting some light hearted lines in these videos. :D

  • @ricogoldstar
    @ricogoldstar 5 років тому +4

    I think that the Q philosopher, known as Quinn, deserves a separate honorable mention as his interaction and intervention in Earths history had significant impact on the development of technology and the course of human events

  • @hiccuphufflepuff176
    @hiccuphufflepuff176 7 років тому +3

    The "alien nesting doll of Starfleet" got a chuckle.

  • @Davesoft
    @Davesoft 7 років тому +76

    I love temporal mechanics

    • @misteleventh6546
      @misteleventh6546 7 років тому +2

      They don't exist though

    • @Davesoft
      @Davesoft 7 років тому +3

      Tell Obrian

    • @mglenadel
      @mglenadel 7 років тому +28

      Time travel, schmime travel. To get a passing grade in TimeTravel 101, you have to score a perfect 100% on the final exam. Everybody eventually does it on the first try.

    • @Davesoft
      @Davesoft 7 років тому

      Marcelo Glenadel

    • @ergogray3143
      @ergogray3143 7 років тому +14

      ...and you will again.

  • @shim2dawg
    @shim2dawg 7 років тому +5

    I thought the implication with T'pol's great grandmother was that it was actually T'pol herself?

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 4 роки тому

      shim2dawg
      Vulcans can live to be two hundred but their aging doesn’t slow down until they’re in their late 30s (at least that’s my approximation based on Spock). More like her mother.

  • @amansiddiqi1
    @amansiddiqi1 4 роки тому +3

    Amazing job!!! Also the alien that was hiding in Tuvoc's mind as a repressed memory was on Earth back to the stone-age, and the "sub Rosa" alien.

    • @raysgarage7260
      @raysgarage7260 2 роки тому +2

      Came her to post this. By the way, the official name of the Sub Rosa alien is "The Electric Space Ghost Who Banged Crusher's Grandmother".

  • @jericieiliel5154
    @jericieiliel5154 8 років тому +28

    "But they are not the hell your whales" Oh how I love you Spock

    • @bradleyclarke4432
      @bradleyclarke4432 5 років тому

      You gettin EMOTIONAL about the plankton munchin lard ass fish Spock not very Vulcan old bean

    • @alexprichett6698
      @alexprichett6698 4 роки тому

      Good, since thay aren't mine, I'll no longer support them. MORE MONEY FOR ME!!!

  • @wratched
    @wratched 8 років тому +13

    You forgot the ancient humanoids, who seeded our planet with genetic programs to ensure that we would evolve to look like them.

  • @baljagpal8670
    @baljagpal8670 7 років тому +17

    Q's visit has to count. The episode where a Q wishes to commit suicide. one of the arguments was that if Q didnt exist, he would of not saved Rikers ancestor. Hence, had an affect on human history.

    • @TimThomason
      @TimThomason 3 роки тому +1

      Yep. That Q (Quinn) visits in the 1666, 1864 and 1969 at least. We don't know of any visits beyond those.

  • @christiandupree2126
    @christiandupree2126 7 років тому +5

    Brilliant channel! I am a trekky and have seen the entire franchise twice. I love to see other people who do more then dabble lightly in the Trek universe

  • @Jimir
    @Jimir 9 років тому +4

    That is my favorite quote from O'Brian.

  • @raw6668
    @raw6668 7 років тому +17

    Didn't the preservers came to earth multiple times and abduct multiple, hence why so many cultures and near human species look similar, for I think it was stated that some of them, if not most were human.

  • @fluffthesergal7640
    @fluffthesergal7640 7 років тому +9

    I'm not a massive trekkie, but this guy makes it easier to get into :o

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  7 років тому +5

      Thanks - that's exactly my aim. The new Abrams films have created a whole generation of new trekkies. I created this video series as a way to discuss Trek for that crowd, with possible insights for the seasoned fans, too.

    • @fluffthesergal7640
      @fluffthesergal7640 7 років тому +1

      Trekspertise Oh, I always liked Star Trek, but when I was a kid it was hard to follow. I mean, my dad nicknamed me Spock because sometimes I go full-logical by accident LOL. Anyways, cheers!

  • @ex3jets
    @ex3jets 7 років тому +28

    I don't know if this one counts but at the end of the episode of the chase in star trek tng the alien seeded planets of its dna.

    • @ElMoShApPiNeSs
      @ElMoShApPiNeSs 7 років тому +7

      It definitely does though I think they seeded Earth's primordial soup so not really human contact. It's annoying that this wasn't mentioned. Probably the most important alien visit in Star Trek History.

    • @hagamapama
      @hagamapama 7 років тому +1

      Doesn't count as contact though because they were seeding the creation of the species -- nothing there to contact before they arrived.

    • @richterman3962
      @richterman3962 6 років тому

      Does everybody just forget about. Sargon

  • @TheRealTMar
    @TheRealTMar 8 років тому +8

    Spock is a champion of time travelling alright. For this topic, the Star Trek 2009 movie doesn't count of course but it involved him time travelling again ;).

    • @acmenipponair
      @acmenipponair 8 років тому

      +TheRealTMar Well, when you think of time travelling, it would count, as the prime universe Spock has time traveled ;) But his Abramsverse counterpart will perhabs never reach the amount of time travels :D

    • @Mortlupo
      @Mortlupo 8 років тому

      +Acme. Nipp-on-AiR The time travelling part is irrelevant as the point is Pre-Warp Alien Contact and not time-traveling contact. Time travel is just one of the various means by which contact was made.

  • @redriver6541
    @redriver6541 5 років тому +3

    How did I just find this channel? Oh man. I'm going to nerd out here....totally geeked.

  • @StephenPike
    @StephenPike 8 років тому +2

    I am enjoying how comprehensive these videos are. Excellent work and endlessly fascinating.

  • @headcrab88
    @headcrab88 9 років тому +1

    Lol I absolutely love that part when kira and o'brien go to the 60's and you hear jimi playing in the background, and those two hippies most likely tripping on acid see them beam out, and theyre just like 'woah', probably thinking how good that acid must've been

    • @Grubnar
      @Grubnar 9 років тому

      "I hurt my nose."

  • @Denizhan447
    @Denizhan447 9 років тому +6

    This is just brilliant. I think this channel has incredible potential, it just has to find a way to advertise itself (found this channel from /r/startrek). Will be expecting the next video soon!

    • @Denizhan447
      @Denizhan447 9 років тому

      ***** You could change the name of the channel to Trekspertise instead of your name as it would probably attract more people since it directly represents what your channel is about. It would also look quite professional.

    • @Denizhan447
      @Denizhan447 9 років тому +1

      ***** Well, I did some quick research and found this: support.google.com/youtube/answer/3479363?hl=en
      Hope I could help.

  • @gelinrefira
    @gelinrefira 7 років тому +16

    Seem like pre-warp aliens only like to visit the western hemisphere.

    • @BirdOPrey5
      @BirdOPrey5 6 років тому +3

      Amelia Earhart, her co-pilot, and a Japanese Soldier were all taken from the Eastern Hemisphere.

    • @Neris-of-the-other
      @Neris-of-the-other 5 років тому +3

      Borg drones have landed on the pole.

    • @leepreston9637
      @leepreston9637 5 років тому +4

      Actually if the Sky Spirits came to Earth that long ago then they would've had to go to Asia (probably Siberia) as that's where the Native Americans were at the time.

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 4 роки тому +2

      Lee Preston
      Which would explain why they moved to the Western Hemisphere.

    • @DaraGaming42
      @DaraGaming42 3 роки тому +1

      @@matthew8153 they moved coz too many aliens visited Asia , there like "there an alien abduction every week now, lets move to America" LOL

  • @christiandupree2126
    @christiandupree2126 7 років тому +5

    Also, missed one. In ST first contact, there is a bolian shown carrying an engineering kit. Hes just an extra, but he is still an alien :)

  • @miendust9659
    @miendust9659 6 років тому +1

    the running gag with the "I hate temperal mechanics" is nice...

  • @DTSephiroth
    @DTSephiroth 8 років тому +30

    And the moral of the story is... Miles O'Brian hates temporal mechanics.
    All joking aside, I do not think the alternate time line contacts should count. If we consider the fact that alternate timelines tend to produce wildly different resulting cultures and situations, then none of them can be considered the "true Earth" from our perspective. Obviously, it would be very real to the inhabitants of those alternate versions of Earth, but not to us since those events from our point-of-view may as well have not even happened.

    • @RobKMusic
      @RobKMusic 8 років тому +1

      Missionary of the Adepta Sororitas You mean like the new Trek reboot movies... :P

    • @DTSephiroth
      @DTSephiroth 8 років тому +2

      Rob K Music I know that was mostly meant as a jest, but exactly like the reboot movies, just another alternate reality..

    • @RobKMusic
      @RobKMusic 8 років тому +5

      Missionary of the Adepta Sororitas It was... but I HONESTLY hate the reboots as far as "Star Trek" is concerned. They're both great space action movies but they are Star Trek in name only. They could have called them "Space Guys" with Capt Kurt or whatever and I'd have been totally behind them. They AREN'T Star Trek. Where's the social commentary? Where are the lessons in morality and higher ideals? Where is the intelligent writing and attention to scientific detail? If they'd been totally rebranded as something else they'd be decent sci-fi movies. But they are low-brow caricatures of "Star Trek" and a "FUCK YOU" to almost 50 years of intelligent, socially relevant storytelling…and they should never have happened in the Star Trek universe.
      But that's just me, I could be wrong.

    • @DTSephiroth
      @DTSephiroth 8 років тому +1

      Rob K Music
      I think it caters a bit too much to younger generations. That said, I enjoyed them, but I don't see them as True Trek, just New-Trek.

    • @lauramillard8265
      @lauramillard8265 8 років тому +1

      +Rob K Music The whole Cardassian/Bajoran occupation can be seen as social commentary on the holocaust and if not the holocaust than war in general at the least. But I really feel strongly that the Cardassians do represent the Nazi's and the Bajoran's the Jewish people.
      TNG had a two episodes dealing with Gender identity. The one where Beverly dates a trill and the one where Riker dates a person of a gender-less society who sees her self as female.

  • @WilliamHBaird-eq2hp
    @WilliamHBaird-eq2hp 8 років тому +4

    I never thought there would be that many! Amazing compilation!

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  8 років тому

      William H. Baird It is kind of amazing. Some if it is probably related to there not being a single resource for writers to research before. But now, with the internet, it must be a little easier to avoid the pitfalls of writing for Trek.

  • @gabeysf
    @gabeysf 9 років тому +1

    This video had me chuckling throughout. Thanks! As for those honorable mentions, I think they probably count!

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  9 років тому

      Gabriel Rodriguez Of course. Thank you for watching =)

  • @xileets
    @xileets 8 років тому

    This was a great video in terms of editing and footage! very nice.

  • @andrewthorne3570
    @andrewthorne3570 8 років тому +20

    What about the Platonians from Plato's Stepchildren, about 400 BCE

    • @andrewthorne3570
      @andrewthorne3570 7 років тому +2

      +irishbreakfast memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Platonian second paragraph "In the 1st millennium BC, they were the product of a mass eugenics program on the planet Sahndara. They were bred for contemplation, self-reliance, and longevity. The number of individuals generated by the program was pared down to thirty-eight. Before the planet's star went nova, this group resettled on Earth where they were exposed to the Greek civilization. When this civilization died, they moved on to Platonius where they founded their republic."

  • @rodneykelly8768
    @rodneykelly8768 7 років тому +5

    The time line from the 1970s to about the 2030s really needs clarification. First, "Zefram Cochrane" in Star Trek T.O.S. was given the further title of "of Alpha Centauri." Second, after the Eugenics War, Khan and his followers escape on a spacecraft that is capable of interstellar flights at slower than light speeds. That sleeper ship implies that humanity had planetary colonies with in the solar system during the Third World War.

    • @AJZulu
      @AJZulu 7 років тому

      +Trekspertise should get in this.
      Damn. The tag doesn't work.

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  7 років тому +2

      You rang?

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  7 років тому +2

      Well, we know Xephram Cochrane invented warp drive and that he lived in Alpha Centauri when Kirk bumped into him. But nothing in TOS indicates that he was born there, just that he moved there.
      And concerning human colonies. Star Trek reveals that there were humans on Mars by 2032, a few decades prior to the invention of Warp Drive. Humans probably hadn't left the solar system, however.

    • @AJZulu
      @AJZulu 7 років тому

      Trekspertise Thank you!

    • @rodneykelly8768
      @rodneykelly8768 7 років тому +1

      If you would permit me to ramble on a little longer; during this era, both “the Eugenics War,” and “World War Three” are mentioned. The big question is; are they separate events, or the same event, and if they are separate, did one trigger the other?
      One could assume that the two were the same, but that would also be lazy writing, (much like giving the Borg a queen.) There is a line from “Space Seed” that might clarify this.
      Spock asks, “Would you reveal to war-weary populations that some eighty Napoleons might still be alive?”
      This statement implies that there was still a government. While in the film “Star Trek: First Contact,” there wasn’t.
      This is important for the Star Trek story-line because these events are the foundation on which the Federation was built, but, we may have to wait for the Star Trek franchise to produce more episodes that explore this topic.

  • @magicsinglez
    @magicsinglez 6 років тому +1

    This is incredible. Thank you.

  • @cm1701a
    @cm1701a 8 років тому +2

    "Dax... the nesting doll of Star Fleet." Nice.

    • @Mortlupo
      @Mortlupo 8 років тому

      +Chris Miles I did like that one.

  • @KrauseXian
    @KrauseXian 9 років тому +6

    What about the "Ancient humanoids" from STTNG: The Chase?
    Great video!

  • @chrisbedwards
    @chrisbedwards 9 років тому +4

    'Q - All time and space"
    Lol.

    • @TonyP9279
      @TonyP9279 8 років тому +2

      Chris Edwards …everything that ever happened and ever will. Wait! That's Doctor Who!

  • @MrSHAUNTHEMAN
    @MrSHAUNTHEMAN 9 років тому +2

    Well... I didn't remember any of the TOS examples... I guess I'd better get to rewatch those again!

  • @mineralmanager
    @mineralmanager 4 роки тому +1

    Wow, Birmingham Alabama included at 26 seconds in a Star Trek clip...never thought I'd see that.

  • @carenrose6002
    @carenrose6002 7 років тому +4

    "Earth. We are not for eating." :D

  • @stephenparallox
    @stephenparallox 8 років тому +8

    Earth, it's what's for dinner!

  • @unchainedwiththecapt
    @unchainedwiththecapt 7 років тому

    Just discovered your channel, really digging it. Well researched and insightful, keep up the good work!

  • @jockeril
    @jockeril 8 років тому +1

    This was very informative. thank you

  • @Nada-fj8ij
    @Nada-fj8ij 7 років тому +4

    So the ferengi visiting the earth in the nineteen forty's.... Is that before or after the planetary express crew did?

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 4 роки тому +1

      Troll Bones
      About the same.

  • @GregoryCreswell
    @GregoryCreswell 8 років тому +17

    you did a nice job.....

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  8 років тому +6

      +Gregory Creswell Thank you =)

  • @janeweber8654
    @janeweber8654 9 років тому +2

    Number 11, you're saying that Guinan is a Hipster of Star Trek? Agreed. Great video!

  • @heliogabalus227
    @heliogabalus227 8 років тому

    "First awesome person to visit pre-warp Earth."
    Awesome! :)

  • @MsCreepyChan
    @MsCreepyChan 8 років тому +10

    Do you count the Dinosaur people that Voyager met? I mean, they developed Warp Drive and went off to the Delta Quadrant, but they did start on earth... Do they count, being that they are actually from earth?

    • @davidk1308
      @davidk1308 8 років тому

      MsCreepyChan Which episode was this?

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  8 років тому +2

      MsCreepyChan I don't. For the sake the criteria in the episode, I count only alien visitations that occur after humanity evolved.

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  8 років тому +4

      David K It was a Voyager episode called "Distant Origin".

    • @davidk1308
      @davidk1308 8 років тому +1

      Trekspertise
      Thanks:) And I asked a question in the discussion area, about a possible future episode. Side note, have you read "Ark" by Stephen Baxter?

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  8 років тому

      David K Hmm...I missed it. Or did I? What was your idea.
      And no, I haven't read Ark YET. I certainly need to check that out!

  • @hfontanez98
    @hfontanez98 8 років тому +8

    @8:04 - Jean Picard? WTF? It's Jean-Luc Picard.

    • @matthew8153
      @matthew8153 4 роки тому

      hfontanez98
      Well he’s not all there in the head what with his BCE & CE nonsense.

    • @justiceh3599
      @justiceh3599 4 роки тому

      He just barely says the 'Luc' but it's there lol.

  • @8digitPDX
    @8digitPDX 8 років тому +4

    I helped work on a series of scripts which were used in part by the Paramount writers but not entirely which involved a family group of Q and exiled Romulans who "hid out" in Earth's ancient past and established the Roman empire. Hence the similarities of names and culture between the Romulans and ancient Rome. The parts of it which made it to the screen however were the parts portraying the Q as both a race, and a sort of dysfunctional family group.

    • @8digitPDX
      @8digitPDX 8 років тому +1

      The guy's name was William Stemper, he used to hang out around the computer labs at Sonoma State and work on Star Trek Voyager
      scripts in the hopes that his story arc would be accepted for production. While the scripts were to the best of my knowledge, always returned as rejected, we noticed they had all be dog eared and soiled to the point it was obvious that they were passed around and read a lot, just not adopted in their entirety. It was Stemper who came up with the idea of the Q being a race that functioned kind of like an extended family.
      We found a reference to ancient Romulan contact in one of the novels if I remember correctly, thus probably considered non-canon, but it is the only way we can make a decent continuity out of this when the original old series writers were just not thinking it through as deeply as is needed in the expanded Star Trek universe.

  • @milton57607
    @milton57607 5 років тому +1

    May God always be with you all.
    (Trekspertise), you are very good at what you do ... simply wonderful, this is the path of all Humanity, with full certainty, we are moving towards this ...

  • @kellycoons9808
    @kellycoons9808 9 років тому +6

    Wait... Sloane? Could Lily be related to Section 31's one and only?

    • @Johnny-rx4hs
      @Johnny-rx4hs 8 років тому

      I thought it was Sloan in DS9. More like a coincidence.

    • @DelcoRanz93
      @DelcoRanz93 8 років тому

      Nah, I don't think so.

  • @benbancroft320
    @benbancroft320 9 років тому +25

    I hate temporal mechanics

  • @evagirlgirl
    @evagirlgirl 8 років тому +1

    i just noticed, you do mention the music at the end of the video. great! :)

  • @leytonjay
    @leytonjay 8 років тому

    Fantastically well researched. Great video.

  • @poe_lovecraft-69writer6
    @poe_lovecraft-69writer6 7 років тому +4

    As well forgot to mention the probe that's was in Star Trek IV when Spock rescues the whales

    • @my3dviews
      @my3dviews 7 років тому

      The probe is in the future (24th century) when it comes to Earth. They travel back in time to get the whales, but the probe doesn't.

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks 4 роки тому

      but the probe probing for whales implies it knew there were whales, and that if there were whales, it may have seeded the planet with whales or came across them before in past travels etc... unless ironically they wre travellers from the future trying to push humanity to save wildlife and take more care of how they value all life to prevent some dark fate/future from unfolding... which is a fascinating possibility....
      but not likely what occured etc...

  • @ThePwnzerWillDie
    @ThePwnzerWillDie 9 років тому +7

    What about the Prophets?

    • @BirdOPrey5
      @BirdOPrey5 6 років тому +2

      That's right, a Prophet took control of an earth woman to have sex with Captain Sisko's dad in order to conceive him. The woman he knew as his mother wasn't his bio mom.

    • @leepreston9637
      @leepreston9637 5 років тому +5

      Again he is only referencing the pre-warp visitations.

  • @MrClint1957
    @MrClint1957 6 років тому

    WHOA...you are good, thank you for posting.

  • @ObsessedCollector
    @ObsessedCollector 8 років тому

    Wow, theres a few episodes I missed, Im def gonna see these tonight! I LOVE Time travel

  • @CasterMedicus
    @CasterMedicus 7 років тому +3

    Topic for new episode: Why did the new enterprise tv show fail?

  • @blkpopeye
    @blkpopeye 9 років тому +5

    Yes I think they can count as Earth visits.

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  9 років тому

      Blk Popeye Noted.

    • @thefurrybastard1964
      @thefurrybastard1964 8 років тому

      Trekspertise Not sure, but I think it was implied that the Preservers had visited Earth on numerous occasions. And then there's Sargon's people who it's alluded seeded the Galaxy with their DNA resulting in the many humanoid life forms.

    • @stryletz
      @stryletz 8 років тому

      The Batman Didn't the Preservers supposedly seed Earth, as well as many other planets in the Trekverse, with life? I think that would make them the first pre-warp visitors to the planet.

    • @blkpopeye
      @blkpopeye 8 років тому

      If they got here in a matter of days or hours,they might have developed a propusion system unknown to us that defy our laws of phyics.

    • @stryletz
      @stryletz 8 років тому +2

      I forgot about the Voth, technically a non-Human, space-faring, civilization that actually developed on Earth.

  • @cjtoronto8190
    @cjtoronto8190 8 років тому +1

    "Also, she looks good in a hat."
    That kind of made my day.
    More importantly, thanks for another awesome video. :)

  • @Gada101
    @Gada101 7 років тому

    I love Temporal Mechanics! Great Video!

  • @Sephiroth144
    @Sephiroth144 7 років тому +8

    Since Data is neither Human, nor was he built on Earth, shouldn't hit visit(s) count?

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 7 років тому +1

      Agreed. Data is sentient (Jean Luc Picard v. Federation Starfleet)

    • @Sephiroth144
      @Sephiroth144 7 років тому +2

      He's not from Earth, not a human, and alive. What is an alien beyond that definition?

    • @carltononeal6149
      @carltononeal6149 7 років тому +1

      data built by alien technology.data has Alien knowledge.data is from alienuUnited federation of planets.data was built on alien federation colony.data and future humans,(parallel universe,alternative universe mirror universe),are alien,for pre warp humanity!

    • @carltononeal6149
      @carltononeal6149 7 років тому

      data is lifeform created on another planet with the alien technologies from the different alien species ,even alien species outside of United federation of planets.data is alien!

    • @SplotchTheCatThing
      @SplotchTheCatThing 7 років тому

      Dang you beat me to it. :)

  • @magicstix0r
    @magicstix0r 8 років тому +6

    When was California ever cool?

    • @JeffDeWitt
      @JeffDeWitt 8 років тому +1

      +magicstix0r I think it probably was for a while, like from the end of WWII into the 70's, but it's gone way WAY down hill in recent decades, the golden state is now the brass state.

    • @Mortlupo
      @Mortlupo 8 років тому +1

      +magicstix0r, When it falls off the west coasts of AZ, NM, & ID.

    • @ajbemrose8259
      @ajbemrose8259 6 років тому

      Charles Batchelor invest in a map.

  • @kirkula
    @kirkula 7 років тому +1

    "considering how time travel works, Spock's record can be bested at any time." Actually, it already has been broken, it just didn't happen yet.

  • @sarahnadespeaks5047
    @sarahnadespeaks5047 8 років тому +1

    I loved this one!

  • @TheCountOfMommysCrisco
    @TheCountOfMommysCrisco 7 років тому +6

    My personal head-canon likes to add one more race: The Greys.
    The Greys visited Earth many times during the late 20th and early 21st centuries, but any contact with them was generally disregarded by skeptical humans as fiction or the insane ramblings of madmen. Unfortunately, by the time Humans discovered Warp technology the Greys had already fallen victim to the interstellar war campaigns of the Klingons. The mostly peaceful race having been nearly eradicated, with the few survivors scattered throughout space as refugees and slaves. That's why we never see them on the shows.

    • @doug6394
      @doug6394 7 років тому +4

      Canonically the Grays are explained by the trip Odo and the Ferengi make to area 51. the Roswell incident accounts for much of the interest in, and supposed evidence for the existence of Grays.

  • @a.leeser9373
    @a.leeser9373 7 років тому +4

    they are not the hell your whales.

  • @SeaFox10
    @SeaFox10 8 років тому +1

    All the time travel Star Treks are my favorites!

  • @theGhoulman
    @theGhoulman 8 років тому +1

    Hey! That was pretty terrific! Subscribed! :)

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  8 років тому +1

      theGhoulman Welcome aboard, crewman!

  • @SpecialAgentW
    @SpecialAgentW 8 років тому +7

    I like the video, but not the use of "CE" ...

    • @Kitmaker
      @Kitmaker 8 років тому +6

      +Will Barnes Me either. Clearly he should have used stardates. Trek noob. :D

    • @offgridmanpolktn
      @offgridmanpolktn 8 років тому +2

      The CE dates are for old farts like me that first fell in love with Star Trek during the original broadcasts back in the sixties and have been to busy working since then to adapt ourselves to star date time.
      Maybe my kids that I started introducing to the original series this summer (thank you NF), will be able to do so.

    • @MrMarkb68
      @MrMarkb68 8 років тому +1

      +Will Barnes I had to Google it, I had no idea what it meant.

    • @HalJordan2814
      @HalJordan2814 8 років тому +1

      +Will Barnes Agreed, dates using the newfangled "BCE" and "CE" instead of "BC" and "AD" are at best a temporary fad which will run its course and then fade into obscurity. Just silly stuff concocted by people trying to change something that doesn't need to be changed.

    • @offgridmanpolktn
      @offgridmanpolktn 8 років тому +8

      +Hal Jordan ; I am going to guess that you have not bothered to read any historical reference papers or reports, because in them the terms BCE and CE have been in common use since back in the seventies.
      It is a way of identifying time periods in scientific literature without getting caught up in the pseudo religious belief systems.
      So no, if this terminology has not faded away over the past forty years, and is the accepted way of identifying the eras of history by the scientific community, you are going to continue seeing it.

  • @FortuneZer0
    @FortuneZer0 7 років тому +13

    Its BC not BCE and AD not CE..

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  7 років тому +33

      Its BCE not BC and CE not AD.

    • @taylormoore5098
      @taylormoore5098 7 років тому +9

      Without a "domini", there can be no "Anno Domini". So there is simply "Common Era".

    • @MemeGnome
      @MemeGnome 7 років тому +10

      It's incredibly pretentious to make up new phrases/acronyms for our calendar just because it's PC when BC and AD will do. It also makes no sense to say Before Common Era and Common Era, because what was so common about, say, 1 CE, and not so uncommon at 1 BCE? At least the previous setup made some kind of sense.
      Also, it's just more efficient to keep it down to two letters, and to make them obviously distinguishable from each other.

    • @taylormoore5098
      @taylormoore5098 7 років тому +25

      MemeGnome
      Well, since "Before Christ" and "Anno Domini" both imply that a cosmic jewish zombie wizard who sacrificed himself to himself to remove from your soul an evil that he put there after a talking snake convinced a rib woman to eat a magical knowledge fruit is real, and there's no evidence to suggest any such foolish notion, the terms "Common Era" and "Before Common Era" are used to label the years of the calendar most often used around the world.
      It's got nothing to do with political correctness, and everything to do with not perpetuating fairy tales in an intelligent society.

    • @jeffo3476
      @jeffo3476 7 років тому +11

      Its not "PC". Our culture has expanded to the point where just assuming the United States is a Christian nation is presumptuous and foolish.

  • @DeedsResearcher
    @DeedsResearcher 8 років тому +1

    Fascinating....and logical. Flawlessly logical.

  • @charleshemphill6923
    @charleshemphill6923 4 роки тому +1

    That was fun to watch

  • @SylvrHawk
    @SylvrHawk 8 років тому

    Nice job love the series

  • @kellyorrichardweddle6220
    @kellyorrichardweddle6220 8 років тому +2

    Amazing knowledge base of the Star Trek canon.

  • @jacenstarheart6256
    @jacenstarheart6256 6 років тому

    Awesome loved it! 🖖

  • @mikesnyder6839
    @mikesnyder6839 8 років тому +1

    very nice job guys

  • @davey929
    @davey929 8 років тому

    Good to know I'm not the only geek out there keeping track of this stuff.

  • @edka1031
    @edka1031 5 років тому +1

    For me, the better was the Carbon Creek episode, when T'Pol grand-mother visits Earth. Remember than one member of the crew rested here... and we don't know how he interacts with humans. Did he met Gary Seven? Did he informed the Vulcans regularly? Did he guided the Vulcan ship in First Contact?

  • @MattRumm
    @MattRumm 8 років тому

    Genius. Subscribed :)

  • @XZenon
    @XZenon 7 років тому

    Amazing video quality.

  • @MagusTheLofty
    @MagusTheLofty 8 років тому

    Okay, this is cool. Gonna have to watch more.

  • @lipstick318
    @lipstick318 8 років тому +1

    Wow, you keep excellent count... I didn't even know one-tenth, of this information...

  • @funzjag
    @funzjag 7 років тому +2

    Great channel! Subscribed.

    • @Trekspertise
      @Trekspertise  7 років тому

      Welcome aboard =)

    • @funzjag
      @funzjag 7 років тому +1

      +Trekspertise Thank you. I've been a Star Trek fan since the age of four. I love it all, with the exception of the JJ reboot! Keep those thought provoking videos coming. Live long and prosper! 😸

    • @BrewBlaster
      @BrewBlaster 7 років тому +1

      Wasn't long after I saw the first Sesame Street that I saw my first Star Trek...I was lucky to have a great childhood.

  • @ryanm7263
    @ryanm7263 8 років тому

    Awesome video.

  • @starbasefiveify
    @starbasefiveify 8 років тому +1

    Very interesting indeed.

  • @ryanburns6780
    @ryanburns6780 9 років тому +1

    I don't recall Torres coming down to earth in that episode, just Tuvok, Janeway, Chakotay, and Paris. In fact, I'm pretty positive of this.

  • @christheother9088
    @christheother9088 6 років тому +1

    "I see you've noticed the ears...he got his head caught in a mechanical rice-picking machine."

  • @t.g.crouch6768
    @t.g.crouch6768 8 років тому +1

    You know, the Gary 7 thing was supposed to be a pilot for a Star trek Spin-off. I'd still like to see that show.

  • @danielkirpes8315
    @danielkirpes8315 5 років тому +1

    Well done Buddy. Like your voice.

  • @MuttonfudgeRacing
    @MuttonfudgeRacing 6 років тому

    Spock trying to use "colorful medifors" was hilarious.

  • @rwashi
    @rwashi 7 років тому +1

    Awesome!

  • @Charlesfernandez0
    @Charlesfernandez0 3 роки тому

    Love this video ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️