Ben, was super stoked to see you team up with Onefinity. Everything I've seen from both their machine and the company makes me think it's gonna be an awesome partnership. More than that, though, I wanted to comment that you have gotten SO. GOOD. at UA-cam content creation over the last years. Your most recent videos have been some of your best yet, and you should be incredibly proud of the comfort and professionalism you've gotten to - voiceovers, non-awkward sponsor breaks, along with incredibly well done and entertaining instruction. Keep on rocking, man. Woooooooooo!
Great video on this, Ben. Between you and Christy from Oakhill Millworks I’m pretty sold on this machine. You did forget the main benefit of mounting your CNC on the wall, you never have to clear a bunch of crap off the table before you use it because you CAN’T pile crap on it!
I like the way you set it up. Less dust falling on rails. I would like to make a Murphy Bed type mount. Folds on the wall when not in use and pull it down and flat like a Murphy Bed to use.
This is a neat idea if you're really strapped for space. We integrated CNC machining into our small shop a few years ago and I feel like it'd make the task more challenging overall in a number of ways to have it hanging though.
I'm actually really impressed by the pricepoint they're currently offering these at (32" x 32" x 5-1/4" work envelope for ~$2100). I have a Shapeoko3 Standard that I just recently got, but if I ever upgrade, I'll probably look into Onefinity.
Shoutout also to the buildbotics open source control on which electronics here are built. That great foundation that Is One of the reason for the good price point of this product
Hi, GREAT VIDEO And so Onefinity does NOT recommend installing a wall mount with X horizontal/ I prefer it! Have you had any problems other than the Y mound dropping because there is no BRAKE? Please Help
Awesome. I have the same machine. I would really love to know how it holds up after 6 months of using it in that configuration. If I know 1F they will soon come out with an option to mount it that way.
It will be interesting to see. It looks like a well thought out machine. However, I've seen vertically mounted machines with similar motors that struggle to hold the weight of just the Z Axis carriage (with Y axis running along the wall). In this case those little motors have to hold up the whole X Axis (including the Z Axis). When these stepper motors are over-worked they tend to miss steps and in this case may result in the job taking a downward turn (literally). I think that perhaps he should have mounted it the other way. I hope I'm proven wrong in this case. There are larger motors, some with built in controllers that will recognise (Aussie spelling) a missed step and if it can't correct the problem it will stop the machine, hopefully saving the job and board material from being totally wasted. I wish you all the best with your CNC machine and continue to enjoy making "stuff" for a long time to come.
this is very cool machine. i’m thinking about getting one. what is your design workflow. right now i design everything in Shapr 3d. but do I need to send that to another software before loading onto this machine?
I would definitely add simple counter weights. Counter weights are commonly used in modern CNC milling machines.The counterweight is inside the Z column.
Nice job. I have an Elite Foreman & QCW on order and am designing a motorized table similar to Lee Turnbull's (see his video titled Folding Table MK2 Update - Stronger Design - Part 1). Like you, I'm designing to rotate to have the X-axis gantry oriented horizontally, not vertically so I can move it up to the ceiling and get it out of my way in the vertical position. For me, vertical position is for storage only, not for operation. My machine is obviously MUCH bigger and heavier, the engineering has been a challenge and I'm taking some risk! Question: Did you ever solve the issue of your X-axis gantry being pulled toward the floor when the machine is off? I'm guessing my Elite will do the same thing, which defeats my reason for rotating the machine like you did. I'm thinking maybe a couple of simple cable tethers to hold the X-axis gantry in the upper Y-axis range before taking vertical? Any thoughts you have from your experience would be appreciated. Again, well done. Cheers!
Congratulations on your new tool /toy Ben. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years ahead my friend Ben. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work Ben. Keep making. Woo-hoo. God bless.
Nice setup bro. I just hung exact same machine same way but mine won’t stay up and constantly loosing strength in the y motors. Do you have any suggestions? Thank you
buy biggest motors and motor drivers, thats it.onefinity uses small stepper motors only 1,2Nm weak lot if not have closed loop motors, not good, can change all nema 23 serie motors normal minimum hobby cnc used nema 23 3Nm 3A motors. but need check can drivers handle biggest current too or change drivers too biggest. all drivers controller need only step and dir and enable wire to drivers. i used my cnc nema 23 3Nm motors about 50$/piece and DM 556 drivers about 20$/piece. lot better motors.
hey there, long time sub here, for some reason i thought you shared the settings for your motors. but i cant seem to find them again. i mounted mine like you, currently having problems with it randomly dropping while cutting.... any help would be much appreciated. keep up the great content.
There's nothing better than coming through in a pinch to help your buddy do something totally crazy and the risk is all on him, lmao. "Yeah, hang your CNC on the wall where it may come crashing down in a fiery ball of disaster?!! Absolutely!"
Okay so I have the onefinity X50, what did you have to change to your design being that your are essentially operating it sideways. Did you simply have to flip your designs sideways? It probably doesn’t matter what direction your designs end up cutting in, just curious if you had to change anything in the way you design your files for this to work.
@@WobyDesign I did watch it, I mean within your design software not the motors or onefinity settings. Also for the record, I think my question was perfectly reasonable, not sure why you came at me so hard with your response, May have been my wording that was confusing or you misunderstood my question but I don't recall you mentioning anything about modifications to your file designs in the video, sorry if the question was confusing.
CNC Company: hey Ben we love your channel, we would like it if you tried out our machine. BEN: sure {evil laugh, hand ringing} US:🤦🏾♀️😑 😄👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 great video, loved seeing your support system in action.
You really need to put a motor with brake on those Y-axes, I would hate to see the machine get damaged or for you to get injured if the machine suddenly lost power. The brakes that are on industrial servo motors (similar to the motors on your machine, but can track their position and generally have much more power) are normally closed, so if you lose power the brake automatically applies, and then can only be opened If power is applied to the brake. I design industrial automation equipment, and this is one of the most basic safety requirements with this type of machine to prevent injury. Your counterbalance idea is great too, it will cut much better with less power if you do that, but still not a substitute for a brake. Not sure if the control system can be modified to implement one, but in my opinion this is something the company absolutely needs to add if it's intended to be mounted vertically. Most motors with brakes are servos, but I've seen some stepper motors with them as well, may have to look around a bit though.
Maybe you can swap the rails so you have dual x and single y rails. I know they are different lengths but maybe they will exchange them. The y motor then only has to support the weight of the router.
Um . Holy balls. You just saved people a tone of floor space for at least light jobs. Wood and plastic. Now build you a lid.. and move the controls left more.. and dust collection the bottom of it's whole room. Like your fold up room.. Good stuff.... People can hate on them stairs all they want... They work
You should move the controller box with the big red Stop button a few inches to the left just to make sure that at no point in the gantry's travel does it or the cables ever impede your access to it.
The only more space-saving way to mount it would be to a ceiling! Of course, then you'd need one of those drywall lifter thingies to load it. Then again, it would make dust control much simpler! Great vid - it gets everyone thinking outside of the box!
@@WobyDesign interesting I have three of these controllers and all three had defaults set to ZERO for idle. Maybe you're a newbie and they've changed the defaults on later batches ass.
You may want to put a straight edge on the bed level with the horizontal travel and put an indicator on the spindle to see if there's a lot of sag in the rails from weight. The weight of the motor and everything it's attached to might cause deflection in those long rails. That's probably why they recommend hanging it the other way. That you sat on it might not have helped as it could have permanently bent all of your rails😢. Hopefully if that did happen, it is little enough to not affect your woodworking. All in all, that thing looks super well built. Your potential for production and complexity of your ideas is going to go through the roof. 👍 Great and informative video BTW. This is the kind of cnc review I wish every brand of cnc had on UA-cam.
Great video! :D Love watching your stuff man! One little thing/tip: I don't know in what program you record your voice-over. But if it is in a recording program for audio (like Garageband or Logic Pro X), you might want to consider putting a low cut on your voice. Some of the P's you are pronouncing, are causing plosive sounds in the speakers. So if you put on an EQ on your voice, with a low cut of maybe 80 Hz (just listen, when your voice starts to sound thin, you've gone too far;), you will get rid of the plosives. I hope it helps! If you have any questions, let me know! KEEP IT UP! :D
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Can you provide a follow-up on how this CNC is performing after one-year on the wall?
Can I just with no irony say I love your sponsorship game. Every thing you show on the channel is awesome so I'm glad it's paying the bills.
Ben, was super stoked to see you team up with Onefinity. Everything I've seen from both their machine and the company makes me think it's gonna be an awesome partnership. More than that, though, I wanted to comment that you have gotten SO. GOOD. at UA-cam content creation over the last years. Your most recent videos have been some of your best yet, and you should be incredibly proud of the comfort and professionalism you've gotten to - voiceovers, non-awkward sponsor breaks, along with incredibly well done and entertaining instruction. Keep on rocking, man. Woooooooooo!
Great video on this, Ben. Between you and Christy from Oakhill Millworks I’m pretty sold on this machine. You did forget the main benefit of mounting your CNC on the wall, you never have to clear a bunch of crap off the table before you use it because you CAN’T pile crap on it!
Literally watching this as I wait for my onefinity to arrive TODAY!
I love that you’ve settled into the new shop to the point where you may not even call it the new shop anymore. Just the shop now :)
I like the way you set it up. Less dust falling on rails. I would like to make a Murphy Bed type mount. Folds on the wall when not in use and pull it down and flat like a Murphy Bed to use.
This is a neat idea if you're really strapped for space. We integrated CNC machining into our small shop a few years ago and I feel like it'd make the task more challenging overall in a number of ways to have it hanging though.
Nice, wall mount, what a perfect idea !
Clean installation, perfection. !
It looked like those cables were about to catch in a couple of spots, would you consider getting a drag chain for them in the future?
I'm actually really impressed by the pricepoint they're currently offering these at (32" x 32" x 5-1/4" work envelope for ~$2100). I have a Shapeoko3 Standard that I just recently got, but if I ever upgrade, I'll probably look into Onefinity.
Shoutout also to the buildbotics open source control on which electronics here are built. That great foundation that Is One of the reason for the good price point of this product
32x32 cost 3336$ plus shipping, you can build better cnc this money 2 piece. maybe 3 machine.
i love the way you running hit the STOP buttons, like baseball athlete
Hi, GREAT VIDEO
And so Onefinity does NOT recommend installing a wall mount with X horizontal/
I prefer it!
Have you had any problems other than the Y mound dropping because there is no BRAKE?
Please Help
After making the adjustments in your settings for it to work properly in the new position do you lose any speed or power?
Awesome. I have the same machine. I would really love to know how it holds up after 6 months of using it in that configuration. If I know 1F they will soon come out with an option to mount it that way.
It will be interesting to see. It looks like a well thought out machine. However, I've seen vertically mounted machines with similar motors that struggle to hold the weight of just the Z Axis carriage (with Y axis running along the wall). In this case those little motors have to hold up the whole X Axis (including the Z Axis). When these stepper motors are over-worked they tend to miss steps and in this case may result in the job taking a downward turn (literally). I think that perhaps he should have mounted it the other way. I hope I'm proven wrong in this case.
There are larger motors, some with built in controllers that will recognise (Aussie spelling) a missed step and if it can't correct the problem it will stop the machine, hopefully saving the job and board material from being totally wasted.
I wish you all the best with your CNC machine and continue to enjoy making "stuff" for a long time to come.
Wow Ben!!! Amazing Awesome Nice !!!
this is very cool machine. i’m thinking about getting one. what is your design workflow. right now i design everything in Shapr 3d. but do I need to send that to another software before loading onto this machine?
I would definitely add simple counter weights. Counter weights are commonly used in modern CNC milling machines.The counterweight is inside the Z column.
always wanted to mount my CNC on the wall but it has to be the right CNC and this bad boy is up for the task for sure
Next Video for the next CNC project could you explain more what software did you use to make the file.
I want to get one of those machines so bad, that is awesome what you did with it
Can you give us an update? Is the cnc still working well in that orientation? Anything you'd do different? Thanks!
That makes a lot of sense to clear the chips/sawdust!
I almost expected you to have a fold out CNC.. But they look bloody heavy.
Nice job. I have an Elite Foreman & QCW on order and am designing a motorized table similar to Lee Turnbull's (see his video titled Folding Table MK2 Update - Stronger Design - Part 1). Like you, I'm designing to rotate to have the X-axis gantry oriented horizontally, not vertically so I can move it up to the ceiling and get it out of my way in the vertical position. For me, vertical position is for storage only, not for operation. My machine is obviously MUCH bigger and heavier, the engineering has been a challenge and I'm taking some risk! Question: Did you ever solve the issue of your X-axis gantry being pulled toward the floor when the machine is off? I'm guessing my Elite will do the same thing, which defeats my reason for rotating the machine like you did. I'm thinking maybe a couple of simple cable tethers to hold the X-axis gantry in the upper Y-axis range before taking vertical? Any thoughts you have from your experience would be appreciated. Again, well done. Cheers!
Woby. Pure energy
Nice set-up I look forward to seeing you use this machine on future projects.
how did the prices not all fall out if you cut all the way through?
So how did you solve the problem about the vertical axis dropping down when the power is switched off?
There are tensioning cables that one can use to counter weight something. They would be perfect for this. Think of them as oversized key chains.
Looks like you can use it to make wooden puzzles if you get a smaller bit. How large and how small a bit can it use?
damn thats a cool space saving CNC with POWER.... Oh and I dig the shirt BTW 👌👌👌
But what exactly is the advantage of mounting it with the Y axis going up and down instead of the usual way?
I think I just found how to fit a CNC table in my tiny shop!
how about a mini tank that follows the code of G carrying your router plunged into wood along the created path turning left and right
The discovery that ball screws with stepper motors are at the will of gravity when powered down is priceless. 😂
Congratulations on your new tool /toy Ben. Hopefully you get great use out of it for many years ahead my friend Ben. Can't wait to see more videos soon. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work Ben. Keep making. Woo-hoo. God bless.
Nice setup bro.
I just hung exact same machine same way but mine won’t stay up and constantly loosing strength in the y motors. Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you
buy biggest motors and motor drivers, thats it.onefinity uses small stepper motors only 1,2Nm weak lot if not have closed loop motors, not good, can change all nema 23 serie motors normal minimum hobby cnc used nema 23 3Nm 3A motors. but need check can drivers handle biggest current too or change drivers too biggest. all drivers controller need only step and dir and enable wire to drivers. i used my cnc nema 23 3Nm motors about 50$/piece and DM 556 drivers about 20$/piece. lot better motors.
hey there, long time sub here, for some reason i thought you shared the settings for your motors. but i cant seem to find them again. i mounted mine like you, currently having problems with it randomly dropping while cutting.... any help would be much appreciated. keep up the great content.
There's nothing better than coming through in a pinch to help your buddy do something totally crazy and the risk is all on him, lmao. "Yeah, hang your CNC on the wall where it may come crashing down in a fiery ball of disaster?!! Absolutely!"
Does anyone know if OneFinity makes or plans to make this available in a 4x8 model?
Sold! Great video! Love the passion for your craft!
2 years later… Do you still use this cnc system?
Okay so I have the onefinity X50, what did you have to change to your design being that your are essentially operating it sideways. Did you simply have to flip your designs sideways? It probably doesn’t matter what direction your designs end up cutting in, just curious if you had to change anything in the way you design your files for this to work.
Did you even watched the video?
@@WobyDesign I did watch it, I mean within your design software not the motors or onefinity settings. Also for the record, I think my question was perfectly reasonable, not sure why you came at me so hard with your response, May have been my wording that was confusing or you misunderstood my question but I don't recall you mentioning anything about modifications to your file designs in the video, sorry if the question was confusing.
CNC Company: hey Ben we love your channel, we would like it if you tried out our machine.
BEN: sure {evil laugh, hand ringing}
US:🤦🏾♀️😑
😄👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 great video, loved seeing your support system in action.
You really need to put a motor with brake on those Y-axes, I would hate to see the machine get damaged or for you to get injured if the machine suddenly lost power. The brakes that are on industrial servo motors (similar to the motors on your machine, but can track their position and generally have much more power) are normally closed, so if you lose power the brake automatically applies, and then can only be opened If power is applied to the brake. I design industrial automation equipment, and this is one of the most basic safety requirements with this type of machine to prevent injury. Your counterbalance idea is great too, it will cut much better with less power if you do that, but still not a substitute for a brake. Not sure if the control system can be modified to implement one, but in my opinion this is something the company absolutely needs to add if it's intended to be mounted vertically. Most motors with brakes are servos, but I've seen some stepper motors with them as well, may have to look around a bit though.
Great video, super informative. Cool how OneInfinity designed it to hang on the wall. Mahalo for sharing! : )
Loved following you through all of this
What software do you use? Vectric - Vcarve?
Man that's impressive, I had not thought about putting a CNC on a wall like that. I may have to look into one of those.
Your amperage issue is why they suggest to hang it the other way. The motors don’t have to lift the whole X carriage.
mounting it under the painting/grinding setup could've been a good idea for dust control
Next project. Making longboard with old skateboard. Watching from Philippines 🤙 keep grinding broh.
Maybe you can swap the rails so you have dual x and single y rails. I know they are different lengths but maybe they will exchange them. The y motor then only has to support the weight of the router.
Your vids are very nice. How is the song called when yiz explain the cnc for dummies
Um . Holy balls. You just saved people a tone of floor space for at least light jobs. Wood and plastic. Now build you a lid.. and move the controls left more.. and dust collection the bottom of it's whole room. Like your fold up room.. Good stuff.... People can hate on them stairs all they want... They work
i can't wait to see what you can make with that!!!!
Awesome video! I love how you wear and promote all your safety equipment!! I can't wait for future projects! Oh....and I bought the gloves! DD
Good cnc machine, any chance of hooking up a promo code?
This will be very interesting to see you put it through it's paces.
You should move the controller box with the big red Stop button a few inches to the left just to make sure that at no point in the gantry's travel does it or the cables ever impede your access to it.
Those Y motors really need brakes. Imagine if there was a power glitch in the middle of a cut. Or while loading/unloading material.
Brilliant idea !
Świetna robota! Super, że pokazujesz jak dużo można zrobić w małym warsztacie!
do you use a fly cutter to re-surface the spoiler board?
Trim routers don't have enough rigidity for a fly cutter worth anything. Better to just use a 1-1.5" straight bit.
A throne fit for a king!
great stuff! i hope you'll do cool stuff with this
Would love to see you make an ornate walking stick and cane
Very cool!
Me watching this video having no idea what it does for the first 2 mins but sounds interesting as heck
Great video, looking forward to seeing what you make
I can’t wait to see what you can create with this machine. This is gonna be dope. How about some sort of weird skateboard double helix 🧬. ✌️
Frickin awesome! Nuff said 🔥🤙🏻
That's awesome! Keep on doing your thing!
The only more space-saving way to mount it would be to a ceiling! Of course, then you'd need one of those drywall lifter thingies to load it. Then again, it would make dust control much simpler! Great vid - it gets everyone thinking outside of the box!
Flattening MDF without dust collection ... damn I hope you have a good air filtration unit pulling all that crap
A blower for clean up!!! Really?
@@rolandellis5309 his shop is open on the other side so hopefully he blew everything out really well !
Figured If you were sitting on it and moving the y axis as an elevator that this was sent to you for review, 🤣
恭喜你，又有新玩具了。😂🤣😂
please use popfilter!
Having had a CNC not stop moving when expected I wouldn't be sitting on one with the potential of crushing me against the ceiling .
Dude, you need to add some idle current to your Y stepper. Default is zero.
I’m not gonna take advice from someone with 2 first names…
@@WobyDesign wow, that says a lot about you. I was trying to help.
You didn’t, default is at 1amp
@@WobyDesign interesting I have three of these controllers and all three had defaults set to ZERO for idle. Maybe you're a newbie and they've changed the defaults on later batches ass.
You may want to put a straight edge on the bed level with the horizontal travel and put an indicator on the spindle to see if there's a lot of sag in the rails from weight. The weight of the motor and everything it's attached to might cause deflection in those long rails. That's probably why they recommend hanging it the other way. That you sat on it might not have helped as it could have permanently bent all of your rails😢. Hopefully if that did happen, it is little enough to not affect your woodworking. All in all, that thing looks super well built. Your potential for production and complexity of your ideas is going to go through the roof. 👍 Great and informative video BTW. This is the kind of cnc review I wish every brand of cnc had on UA-cam.
It’s fine bruh, worry about your cnc
@@WobyDesign Sorry. I posted this in the wrong channel. I meant to say: That's so cool!
Now you can use your CNC as an elevator to your loft!
nice video!
Awesomeness!!!
You are crazy and I like it :D
Whoooaaaa-Beeeee!!!!
Great video! :D Love watching your stuff man!
One little thing/tip: I don't know in what program you record your voice-over. But if it is in a recording program for audio (like Garageband or Logic Pro X), you might want to consider putting a low cut on your voice. Some of the P's you are pronouncing, are causing plosive sounds in the speakers. So if you put on an EQ on your voice, with a low cut of maybe 80 Hz (just listen, when your voice starts to sound thin, you've gone too far;), you will get rid of the plosives.
I hope it helps! If you have any questions, let me know!
KEEP IT UP! :D
Also, consider buying a pop-filter. Keeps the P's out of your tracks :) Cheers!
Bravo
Only 3 :(
He is the son of the legendary rooftop Koreans
Is that a 3d printer part you’re using to secure the coiled router cable to the x-rail, if so is that file available?
I literally wrote “no 3D parts” when I showed thay
sick
My advice: Counterbalance your cross rail.
Take a look at how garage doors are installed.
Your motors and electronics will thank you for it.
BUILD ANOTHER BIKE AND HAVE THE MACHINE CARVE IT!!!!!!! Ok I'll show myself out.
👍
lets gooo
Nothing wrong with 3D printed parts on low volume products, injection moulding of non structural parts adds unnecessary cost.
A 3D printer???
Am i just really high...or did he say "make sure" a LOT near the end of that.