Oda Treats Zoro BETTER...

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  • @ay3070
    @ay3070 Місяць тому +99

    As a sanji fan i understand Oda being able to use him in a unique way that others cant be used.
    I dont however understand Toei being so clearly biased. Oda already balances out sanjis nature cool vs goofy but toei takes out some of his cool moments which dimishes his character.
    Toei can add stuff to add to the story to clear things up but when you remove content from the story its disrespectful to fans and Oda's story

    • @hanumanganesha9609
      @hanumanganesha9609 Місяць тому +9

      Yeahh bruh they completly diminish his cool moments and his pervy moments they turn taht shit to eleven like bruh we want cool sanjii moments honestly it feels like zoro is toei's favorite child , he gets better treatment then the fucking main character himself , i am not hating zoro, zoro is my second favorite but toei's bullshit should be called out

    • @DemonFist94
      @DemonFist94 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@hanumanganesha9609Cry Harder

    • @Deezfugginnutzinyomouf
      @Deezfugginnutzinyomouf Місяць тому

      @@DemonFist94bro gotta be 8 years old

    • @mhussain8007
      @mhussain8007 Місяць тому

      ​@@hanumanganesha9609cope harder

    • @migueljaques6780
      @migueljaques6780 20 днів тому

      @@DemonFist94shhhh zorotard

  • @Lornda
    @Lornda Місяць тому +35

    Im a zoro fan boy but damn the anime making marco say "here comes the star" was just undeservingly cold BOTH zoro and sanji are the WINGS of the pirate king* (edit spelling cos i got fat fingers}

    • @Slampty
      @Slampty Місяць тому

      And would Jimbei be?

    • @haremking7256
      @haremking7256 Місяць тому +2

      Sanji stan stop capping

    • @1001011011010
      @1001011011010 20 днів тому

      That may just be a translation thing, Japanese doesn't really have plural forms like that

    • @babyyyyy132
      @babyyyyy132 19 днів тому +1

      @@haremking7256bro what robin literally said sanji is worthy of being one of the wings of the pirate king

  • @koheletcalaforexclan6508
    @koheletcalaforexclan6508 Місяць тому +43

    Zoro Fan, Sanji Fan? I love all the crew. Now if I had to pick one I’d be split between Robin and Nami, there’s the true competition. Can’t decide to this day.

    • @Yamato_Solos
      @Yamato_Solos Місяць тому +2

      lmao

    • @RiskyyTR1
      @RiskyyTR1 Місяць тому +8

      This is the real conversation we need to have.

    • @goddy6852
      @goddy6852 Місяць тому +2

      Robin on top 24/7💯

    • @chwuan8638
      @chwuan8638 Місяць тому +1

      Robin is massive if you know what I mean

    • @yolapeyana6333
      @yolapeyana6333 Місяць тому

      Defo Robin

  • @felipecagorago
    @felipecagorago Місяць тому +86

    Most of these comments are Zoro fans complaining about how Sanji fans complain lmao

    • @mhussain8007
      @mhussain8007 Місяць тому

      U must be a sanjitard😊

    • @nonyabusiness366
      @nonyabusiness366 Місяць тому +6

      With the sanji fans then complaining about the zoro fans complaining about their complaints and so on and so fore until the whole comment section descends into stupid name calling and childish insults

    • @Ignoreduser
      @Ignoreduser Місяць тому +1

      @@nonyabusiness366it because Zoro fans are instigating conflict because Sanji fans are on the defensive.

    • @Dracule18
      @Dracule18 20 днів тому

      Lmao

  • @TheRanOfGod
    @TheRanOfGod Місяць тому +100

    That moment with Edison wasn’t even all that crazy tbh. Atleast it’s crazy people were whining about it.
    The S-Shark moment where he literally dogwalked Sanji was way worse, they just made that shi up to hate💯

    • @chibk
      @chibk Місяць тому +18

      i swear the animators just shit on characters a lot for no reason💀🙏🏽 now i see why people like the manga better tbh

    • @kingmanga8575
      @kingmanga8575 Місяць тому +9

      Na the Edison moment was pretty bad. In the manga that’s one of the best speed feats we’ve seen in the series. In the anime u barely even see sanji saving Edison and outspending an already shot laser.

    • @Mr.Death56
      @Mr.Death56 Місяць тому +17

      ​@@chibkI'm a big fan of Zoro and Luffy, but I think Toei hates Sanji too much lol 💀

    • @chibk
      @chibk Місяць тому +3

      @@Mr.Death56 they do💀and it’s even worse with the admirals in marineford😭they made them look like bitches

    • @DemonFist94
      @DemonFist94 Місяць тому

      S-Shark >>> Lanji Cry Harder 😂😂😂

  • @yamahafan5227
    @yamahafan5227 Місяць тому +127

    Zoro over Law is just reality Brago. No agenda there.

    • @ImchautzuCHAUTZU
      @ImchautzuCHAUTZU Місяць тому +12

      This Zoro gas is insane
      Just say you think he's close to Luffy

    • @ken_d_uchiha
      @ken_d_uchiha Місяць тому +29

      Law is stomping zoro lol

    • @yamahafan5227
      @yamahafan5227 Місяць тому +30

      Im just saying Law is getting 1 shot by the Big Mom & Kaido Ocean Sovereignty. Zoro tanked it, and then still threw out his strongest attack afterwards.

    • @tensei7487
      @tensei7487 Місяць тому +5

      Law and Kidd slam loro

    • @AnimeALX
      @AnimeALX Місяць тому +22

      @@yamahafan5227 zoro never tanked ocean sovereignty. He got rescued by Law. If he didn't then Zoro would have died. He stalled it for a bit.

  • @animoments8969
    @animoments8969 Місяць тому +36

    Animators definately have Zorro agenda. On rooftop in the manga kid and law pushed bigmom off the island into the sea but in the anime Zorro cut off the cliff, pushing her off the island. They basicly took kid and laws feat and ave it to zoro which is isane but hey you aint gonna catch zorro fans complaining. The official one piece twitter account even made a 1 hour loop of Sshark tossing Sanji.

    • @DemonFist94
      @DemonFist94 Місяць тому +3

      Keep Crying

    • @goddy6852
      @goddy6852 Місяць тому

      I'm sorry bro...but a racist it's better than a groomer/pdf file in this days🤷🏿‍♂️

    • @DD-lm6oc
      @DD-lm6oc Місяць тому

      @@DemonFist94 we get it you are a zoro glazer wipe your mouth when you done.

  • @jrhype53
    @jrhype53 Місяць тому +15

    Of course Sanji gonna be faster than Zoro😅. Homie walking around with 3 swords 😂

  • @bookofsol
    @bookofsol Місяць тому +14

    I mean, at least Luffy, Sanji and Zoro get more love that the other strawhats.

  • @tylerwilson1024
    @tylerwilson1024 Місяць тому +5

    Honestly I feel like the main issue with the whole Sanji thing is that a lot of them end up often disappointed because they keep trying to force Sanji to be like Zoro. They are two completely different characters and different archetypes, so the scenes and moments they get are different. People wouldn’t be in their feelings so much if they weren’t constantly comparing Sanji to Zoro, and trying to 1-up Zoro fans every time Sanji gets a good moment. Like imagine watching Yu Yu Hakisho and getting mad cause Kwabara doesn’t get as many hype moments as Hei, shoot imagine watching Hunter x Hunter and being upset that leorio doesn’t get as hype of moments as kuripika or killua, and I can keep going.
    Some people just have to come to terms that Zoro archetype is the badass, cool, and strong combatant on the crew. Sanji on the other hand is more of a comic relief perverse character. Shoot even Mineta in my hero gets his cool moments and times to shine, but comparing him to Krishima (red riot) for example is a losing battle cause the characters fulfill different roles

  • @Mrvengeancehere
    @Mrvengeancehere Місяць тому +41

    Brago :- animator know more than we do
    Yeah about that
    Pekoms 1 shot sanji & make sanji go unconscious is anime only
    King stopping sanji using 1 hand is anime only
    S shark grabbing & tossing sanji is anime only
    After taking combo ifrit attack queen got backup real quick in no time is anime only
    Page one got backup real quick not wasting time is anime only
    Meanwhile
    Zoro flying & cutting s hawk attack is anime only
    Zoro knocking out waiters using coc during Raid on Onigashima is anime only
    Zoro hopping & cutting multiple imperial flames r anime only
    Zoro vs samurai of wano, him using tatsumaki then destroying the entire area is anime only
    Funny how every one of these non canon scenes "ONLY" make Zoro better not sanji
    Anime Zoro is stronger than manga
    Anime sanji is weaker than manga
    People saying :- here comes the star was translation error
    In reality It's not
    Toei purposely only show Zoro after that
    They knew what they r doing
    So yeah brago animator know more then we do
    they know how to make Zoro better & sanji worst by adding extra stuff
    Now wait & watch all zolotard cope & nagging about my comment
    When I'm literally providing EVIDENCE & FACTS
    Just go & cross-check manga if u don't believe me

    • @evileyevalaus
      @evileyevalaus Місяць тому +3

      Sanji and Zoro are not stronger/weaker than the manga versions that's just the cope you make up when you don't think sanjis scene didn't get animated the way y'all thought it should 🤷🏾‍♂️😭🤣

    • @Mrvengeancehere
      @Mrvengeancehere Місяць тому +10

      @@evileyevalaus u know how to read right?
      Bec I'm 100% sure that's wasn't my topic/issue here
      U completely ignored the issue here
      Don't u?

    • @evileyevalaus
      @evileyevalaus Місяць тому +2

      @@Mrvengeancehere the animators do know more than the ppl reading/watching it so whatever point you think you was tryna make is irrelevant but you quite literally said Zoro fans was gonna be nagging and trying to cope when literally no one even responded to your comment except for me I can read just fine I'm just not going to write a book in the comments 😭🤣🤷🏾‍♂️💯💯

    • @Mrvengeancehere
      @Mrvengeancehere Місяць тому +7

      @@evileyevalaus no one going to respond,
      Proceed to respond to my comment 🤦🏻
      & U r coping when saying Zoro is not strong than manga
      Sanji is weaker than manga

    • @evileyevalaus
      @evileyevalaus Місяць тому +3

      @@Mrvengeancehere LEARN TO READ I said no one responded other than me😭🤣🤣🤣 and when did I say anything about batman and Luffy? Do you work with Oda or do you just read/watch the manga/anime if you don't work with or for Oda we all clearly know less than the ppl who do that's my point genius go cope harder😭🤣🤣

  • @Truck-kun11
    @Truck-kun11 Місяць тому +22

    - Constantly used as a Hyping tool
    - Increasingly used as comic relief since Time-Skip, bordering on flanderization with Oda doubling down on gags with perverted Sanji during Fishman Island and Punk Hazard
    - Always being portrayed as Zoro's equal and rival only for Zoro to end up with all the most epic moments
    - No mention of his dream in YEARS while every other strawhat had at least some develoment on theirs
    - Etc...

    • @kaikage6060
      @kaikage6060 Місяць тому +10

      Them not liking each other is a gag.Not a rivalry. Zoro an sanji dont even have the same goal in life. How would they be rivals? Zoro was always potrayed stronger

    • @Truck-kun11
      @Truck-kun11 Місяць тому

      @@kaikage6060 I say rivals from a narrative point of view in that they are always butting heads no matter the situation

    • @kaikage6060
      @kaikage6060 Місяць тому +5

      @@Truck-kun11 i get what youre sayin, but even from a narritave point they wouldnt be rivals. Theyd need the same goal to be rivals. They just dont like each other. That doesnt mean theyre eqaul

    • @kaikage6060
      @kaikage6060 Місяць тому +2

      @@Truck-kun11 dont get me wrong, sanji would give zoro a hard time, but zoro has always been potrayed stronger

    • @Truck-kun11
      @Truck-kun11 Місяць тому +2

      @@kaikage6060Yeah, In practice they are not equals but the story constantly shows them as if they were, hence why they are "The wings of the Pirate King"

  • @chibk
    @chibk Місяць тому +10

    i finally see why people like the manga better😭🙏🏽
    i’ve noticed that the animators are biased asf against the admirals. look at marineford and compare the anime version to the original manga 💀you’ll be shocked

    • @gaeron1305
      @gaeron1305 Місяць тому +1

      They gave whitebeard an extra wound to make up for it. They weren't about to animate a dude with part of his head burnt off.

    • @chibk
      @chibk Місяць тому +4

      ⁠@@gaeron1305 that’s not all im talking about lol… go back and look at all the differences bro i swear the animators are yonko fans💀🙏🏽

    • @gaeron1305
      @gaeron1305 Місяць тому +1

      @@chibk I guarantee the animators from marineford weren't yonko fans.

    • @chibk
      @chibk Місяць тому +2

      @@gaeron1305 u havent seen both the anime and manga then

    • @gaeron1305
      @gaeron1305 Місяць тому

      @@chibk I have

  • @BillKapri7
    @BillKapri7 Місяць тому +12

    Brago started cooking a five star meal 3:52

  • @TheDarkKenpachi
    @TheDarkKenpachi Місяць тому +5

    I don't remember the manga moment being that big

  • @ginnungagapabyss5639
    @ginnungagapabyss5639 Місяць тому +17

    Even if Zoro didn't know Sanji was there, he was in the middle of a fight, and Sanji came from behind him landing. That's like saying in the injustice timeline Nightwing was speed blitzed by a weapon when he was just in the middle of a fight and didn't notice.

    • @justaguy3825
      @justaguy3825 Місяць тому +5

      Yeah but oda could of just not added the “hm?”, since it wouldn’t really matter, but he clearly wanted to demonstrate how fast sanji is now, it’s not down playing zoro, it’s just hyping sanji

    • @mayursharma7594
      @mayursharma7594 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@justaguy3825the hm? Could imply so much more than sanji speed blitzing lol.

  • @darkironyoshi
    @darkironyoshi Місяць тому +6

    Personally reading through the chapter the 1st time I took it as Zoro being surprised at Sanji but not with the implication of "SANJI'S SO MUCH FASTER". Like it was to show Sanji being fast but not Zoro being slow. Now I do think there is an argument for Sanji being faster than Zoro but this was NOT a good place to argue that.

  • @thefootballguy6562
    @thefootballguy6562 Місяць тому +10

    Can’t we all just get along lol let’s enough the story

  • @nikjovan4816
    @nikjovan4816 Місяць тому +6

    I swear people are so obsessed with stuff like this. When I read that scene in the manga, I only thought about how Zoro and Sanji did their jobs. I love them as characters. And that's it. And also saying TOEI is biased against Sanji is beyond stupid. Look at the absolute Sauce they gave Sanji against Queen in EPI 1061 or how Sanji fought King and Queen simultaneously in the anime; it looked so good.

    • @czar17_28
      @czar17_28 Місяць тому

      They also made Zoro skywalk in his fight against Kaku and had S-Shark throw Sanji against a wall like a scrub.

    • @czar17_28
      @czar17_28 Місяць тому +1

      Also 1062 is arguably a Top 3 animated episode of One Piece, but they made King look INSANE.
      In the manga he made ONE Dragon, in the anime they made him create like 10+ and had Zoro and King clashing like Yonko.

    • @nikjovan4816
      @nikjovan4816 Місяць тому +1

      @@czar17_28 Zoro can use his swords to do a skywalk basically, so I don't know why it's so crazy that he can do at least one normal skyjump at this point in the story. Plenty of people who are fodder at this point can do multiple skywalks in a row. Zoro doesn't do it because it's not his fighting style. And then the S-Shark thing did nothing to hurt Sanji and TOEI have also done Zoro wrong before. They straight-up erased a named attack that Zoro did in the manga against King and didn't do it in the anime. It was before episode 1062. Somewhere 1058 or 1059.

    • @nikjovan4816
      @nikjovan4816 Місяць тому

      @@czar17_28 Well, yes the anime makes things bigger scale and more epic. Look at what they did in episode 1074 with Kaido vs Luffy. Absolutely amazing.

    • @czar17_28
      @czar17_28 Місяць тому +1

      @@nikjovan4816 You're right about the Zoro cut attack, but again. The entire first sequence of Zoro vs Kaku didn't happen.
      Sanji getting ragdolled randomly at the end of the fight didn't happen. But Sanji's non-canon addition is not flattering.
      It's not that the Zoro gas is problematic. It's just clear that animators like to animate Zoro. Sanji is under him and priority and you can clearly see a bias. It's honestly just a small section within animators.

  • @nataliawineland34
    @nataliawineland34 Місяць тому +4

    It's crazy to me that ppl are always zoro or Sanji when to me some of their best moments are together

  • @cousin_of_dora
    @cousin_of_dora Місяць тому +30

    Zoro fans NEED the anime to do this much because it compensates for him having the character arc of a dendenmushi

    • @kingmanga8575
      @kingmanga8575 Місяць тому +16

      Only people who read op on a surface lvl thinks zoro hasn’t had a character arc. It’s just that zoros major arc happened pre ts while sanji barely had any arc whatsoever. And now post timeskip it’s the reverse. Because zoros already progressed to where he needs to be.

    • @RimuruTempest-wl1ru
      @RimuruTempest-wl1ru Місяць тому +15

      ​@@kingmanga8575they think having a sad backstory is all what character arc is about

    • @cousin_of_dora
      @cousin_of_dora Місяць тому +6

      @@kingmanga8575 Look I like Zoro and my post is huperbole, but Sanji is the character with much more emotional depth (by design) and I do think it's wrong for people to say Oda is biased towards Zoro when Sanji has gotten plenty of writing dedicated towards a genuinely impactful character arc

    • @swagman2001
      @swagman2001 Місяць тому +4

      You don’t need a entire arc based around a character to be considered well written you sanji fans always use this as insult yet zoro is still popular but hey it is what it is

    • @DemonFist94
      @DemonFist94 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@cousin_of_doraand??? Lol I think Sanji fans like you Cry and Complain whenever Zoro has a cool moment 😂 just a hater

  • @menemisjeff990
    @menemisjeff990 Місяць тому +5

    So in short, Oda and Toei loves riding and glazing on Zoro (as well as the stans), and loves shidding on Sanji

    • @waqarkhowaja8341
      @waqarkhowaja8341 Місяць тому

      Oda can do whatever he wants. Toei on the other hand.. well yeah true. They overhype zoro more than what is shown in source material

  • @eastbluedrew1664
    @eastbluedrew1664 Місяць тому +3

    Star shit was sooooooo deliberate 😂 like went out there way to change it 😂

  • @dee1762
    @dee1762 Місяць тому +1

    First time watching a person’s video within the 1st 5 minutes after it dropped, i feel accomplished 😭❤️

  • @johnnypollack3243
    @johnnypollack3243 Місяць тому

    Keep up the awesome work and videos BDA law love the video

  • @ZaneBlalock
    @ZaneBlalock Місяць тому +2

    Just pulled the video up - so you might mention this - but the Anime also called Sanji the "wings" of the pirate king rather than one of the wings.
    Official English Manga uses an incorrect name for Zoro. etc.
    But yea, I'd argue that the anime studio favors Zoro, but honestly? I think Oda does too. I think originally his "3 triggers" were his focus (Luffy, Zoro, Nami) - and as time has went on, Sanji has gotten more shine (he had a whole arc centered around him), but it still feels like - to me - that Oda favors Luffy and Zoro specifically. And it makes sense: Zoro has been a character design that Oda used MULTIPLE times for his various one-shots. And Luffy was the character he'd always want to write.
    Sanji, however, is bar none perhaps the best written character in the entire story though. And yea, that's including his perv-tendencies and his gags. He has the most depth, and most complexity on an individual story basis.
    I tend to see the problems with fans via 2 things though:
    1. Some fans want Zoro to be THE main character
    and
    2. Some fans want Sanji to be Zoro
    Those two gives you the source of the most toxic fans in my opinion.

  • @bitviper3430
    @bitviper3430 Місяць тому +13

    Honestly to me I took it as a “Hm? What you doin here?”

    • @obicross
      @obicross Місяць тому +1

      Same

    • @Dracule18
      @Dracule18 20 днів тому

      Same. Idk why Sanji fanboys interpret that as Zoro Being shocked at Sanji's speed. That was the first time Zoro met him that arc. So he was just surprised to see him pop out of nowhere.

  • @avataraarow
    @avataraarow 26 днів тому

    You been good lately brago? Haven’t seen many uploads, hope you’re not too burnt out cuz I love your content

  • @aether5031
    @aether5031 Місяць тому +3

    Only thing more annoying than sanji/zoro discourse is Yamato discourse.
    Also "Sanji stans" isnt a thing. Its people who enjoy One piece and then the radical zoro fans

    • @parmar__12
      @parmar__12 Місяць тому

      Nah it's sanjitards who just hate Zoro because he is stronger factually
      Not because he is called wings for people to be recognised as strong

  • @ArabDweller
    @ArabDweller Місяць тому +2

    Toei litteraly made up Sanji getting beat up by S Shark instead of the other way around, then even did this now. It's saddening to see.

  • @shyamsundhar4318
    @shyamsundhar4318 Місяць тому +3

    s shark sending sanji flying that was not in manga then what was that other then they picking sides (animators)

  • @groamersglasses7922
    @groamersglasses7922 Місяць тому +2

    lol..😂😂😂
    I think the problem is some Sanjis fans feels always entitled when it comes to Zoro..

  • @harrsshith
    @harrsshith Місяць тому +2

    We all are one piece fans. Please stop fighting yall. 😔 we should move together
    *ONE PIECE IS THE GOAT*

  • @andrewmay9885
    @andrewmay9885 Місяць тому +1

    Wait till you see this week's ep lol
    Sanji barking like a dog....aah yo

  • @HenryAsare_asare_henry_21
    @HenryAsare_asare_henry_21 Місяць тому +1

    Oda to Sanji’s voice actor: Sanji will never be cool again.

  • @louelastic954
    @louelastic954 28 днів тому +1

    Obsessive powerscaling is a plague in the anime community and that whole Sanji "surprising" Zoro narrative is a perfect example.

  • @WillisAmak
    @WillisAmak Місяць тому +1

    Call Me A Dog
    -Sanji

  • @HoryBP1
    @HoryBP1 Місяць тому

    Goddamn, when the ad segment started you turned into Parvision usual intro voice tone 😌but yeah, sometimes even I feel like Oda is forgetting about Sanji :/ luckily Egghead treats both of "the wings" equally terrible ;P

  • @splitvortex_9636
    @splitvortex_9636 Місяць тому +1

    Zoros a swordsman, he has to be badass or else it won’t work.

  • @mariomercado725
    @mariomercado725 Місяць тому +1

    I’m a huge sanji fan but still love zoro. I read the manga and saw the episode both times (even when the manga came out) I never interrupted anything about sanjis speed

  • @cousin_of_dora
    @cousin_of_dora Місяць тому +2

    Just saying, Sanji only needs his legs to be comparable to Zoro with 3 swords

    • @evileyevalaus
      @evileyevalaus Місяць тому +4

      And a upgraded body let's not forget that part

    • @swagman2001
      @swagman2001 Місяць тому +4

      @@evileyevalausbro just forgot about that lol

    • @evileyevalaus
      @evileyevalaus Місяць тому +2

      @@swagman2001 fr tried skipping over it like it's not common knowledge😭🤣

    • @DemonFist94
      @DemonFist94 Місяць тому

      Comparable??? Lmaaaoooo Sanji wish he was comparable 😂😂😂

  • @guybrushtwood
    @guybrushtwood Місяць тому

    This sounded like an apology video at the beginning

  • @TheEvilRohanite
    @TheEvilRohanite Місяць тому +2

    Even if Zoro was reacting to Sanji in the manga panel it makes way more sense for it to be like "Oh, you're here" (you know, cause they had been separated for multiple chapters) than a power scaling thing.
    And at the end of the day in both versions Sanji outran the laser (or blocked I guess if it's meant to be foreshadowing for the Kizaru moment later), how long he takes to bring Edison down afterwards is irrelevant in regards to the actual feat.

    • @binay413963
      @binay413963 Місяць тому +1

      I think it could be he eas surprised but not in a "oh my god I can't comprehend that speed ahhhhh" way but in a "oh wow that fast , I did NOT expect such speed"

    • @parmar__12
      @parmar__12 Місяць тому

      Never lol​@@binay413963
      You tjink zoro would be surprised from base Sanji's speed 😂😂

  • @iliasnox8974
    @iliasnox8974 Місяць тому +3

    No in the Manga Oda does everything right but the complains are from the Anime and they dont do a really good Job when it comes to Sanji

  • @ryanchiasson2262
    @ryanchiasson2262 Місяць тому +1

    Law is getting packed by Zoro extremely high difficulty though I just think Zoro’s haki mastery and skill completely counters laws df his only edge is conquerors where I think that will give him the push to win

  • @GageLayton
    @GageLayton Місяць тому

    My own kinda head theory (basically what i want to happen) is that during egghead SOMEHOW luffy does get captured by the elders and they set him an execution and then all hell breaks lose and everyone from everywhere shows up and its an all out war like another god valley, all yonko, all marines, all crews eveyone and itll be an unreal war. Ik its stupid but it's something i want lol

  • @myturn2play86
    @myturn2play86 Місяць тому +1

    Zoro is that guy

  • @DEATHxTHExKIDx1
    @DEATHxTHExKIDx1 Місяць тому

    I didn't even realize it was a big moment in the manga

  • @Mari-qr2dh
    @Mari-qr2dh Місяць тому

    unrelated but i was thinking that the showed wapol a lot lately and is with vivi which most likely will reunite with the straw hats right? what if wapol powers are gonna be what combines the mother flame with luffy, if it ever happens?

  • @1001011011010
    @1001011011010 20 днів тому

    Star vs stars could be a translation thing since Japanese doesn't really have a plural form like that (there are instances where you can make things plural but usually it is up to context)

  • @thelew75
    @thelew75 Місяць тому +1

    I been watching and reading one piece for over a decade and I’ve never realized how much people care about zoro v sanji. I just tend to enjoy the adventure for what it is.

  • @TheEvilRohanite
    @TheEvilRohanite Місяць тому

    2:05 the line is the same in both the manga and the anime, the difference is in translation. Japanese has no plurals so you have to either guess or use context clues to know whether it's meant to be "stars" or "star".

  • @jackpitman175
    @jackpitman175 Місяць тому +2

    Zoro over law is ridiculous

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos Місяць тому +2

      Zoro has way better haki than Law.

  • @dinofeather
    @dinofeather Місяць тому

    I always assumed the Huh was directed at Lilith. As in Zoro is confused by her freaking out, as from his perspective Sanji Clearly had things covered. I figured it was one of those, 'never fear the two bad asses are here' moments.

    • @Yamato_Solos
      @Yamato_Solos Місяць тому +4

      nah it was def a reaction to the seraphim stopping

  • @binay413963
    @binay413963 Місяць тому +1

    3:52 Law is df dependent still put a fight without his df

  • @Yamato_Solos
    @Yamato_Solos Місяць тому

    The issue i had with it is the fact of how they had Sanji look when he saved Edison, they had him using the boots and not just speed saving him, and like you said they had him coming in way after the explosion. For the Zoro reaction part they did that completely correct, Zoro was not saying "hm" to Sanji cause he was behind him, he was saying "hm" because S-Hawk or the seraphim stopped fighting. Zoro also wasnt even looking at him, so idk why people are mad or confused cause they did the part the same in the anime as in the manga.

  • @trehubb6144
    @trehubb6144 Місяць тому +10

    I mean Zoro is not only the Japanese crew member but was the oldest one piece character in a sense. Dude was essentially a ryuma clone in looks and as we know Wanted came before one piece.

  • @KingkuntaGG
    @KingkuntaGG Місяць тому

    Ahh Zoro vs Sanji, the debate as old as time

  • @jimihatten1958
    @jimihatten1958 Місяць тому

    Bro that pic at 5:02 is wild

  • @JK_073
    @JK_073 Місяць тому +1

    Oda definitely treats Zoro better than Sanji. Zoro and Sanji are 2 characters with similar status and power in the verse. However, when it’s time to prove a point and show a characters strength, Sanji will be used as the punching bag, while Zoro is just there. Sanji exists to show the competence and strength of other characters and because Oda doesn’t want Zoro to look bad, so by putting Sanji in the situation he basically helps you arrive at the conclusion that __ character is above the level of Sanji and Zoro by default.

    • @kingmanga8575
      @kingmanga8575 Місяць тому +1

      This is simply untrue and cope from sanji fans.
      Before I’m called a Sanji hater Sanji is at times comparable to Zoro. But more than often Zoro is clearly superior. Showing Sanji lose to an opponent does not mean Zoro would also lose to the same opponent.
      Take arlong for example. Arlong no diffed Sanji and yet was terried of Zoro because he knew Zoro was heavily nerfed due to his injuries. Implying that Zoro would do well against arlong if he wasn’t already on deaths door. There’s plenty of instances of that in the series.

  • @Stefan0v1
    @Stefan0v1 18 днів тому

    So...those 5 arrows that usually depict "grabbing attention"...right after the TAP....is not towards Sanji..huh?..
    It's a suprise however you want to put it..

  • @Samuel-p17
    @Samuel-p17 Місяць тому +1

    God I wish Yamato actually had joined. Then the whole second strongest debate would've been over.

    • @nihili4196
      @nihili4196 Місяць тому +1

      Nah, it would make it worse. Trust me.

    • @adaurysantos
      @adaurysantos Місяць тому +1

      It's never really been a debate. Zoro has always been the second strongest of the crew.

  • @Emolate
    @Emolate Місяць тому

    In terms of black beard sweating for s hawk, I think it could be the case where he is sweating because he knows the implication of seeing a mihawk clone that’s dark skinned with wings. I think black beard understood what he was looking more then was being scared at s hawk.

  • @estebanbr7596
    @estebanbr7596 Місяць тому

    oda always protects zoro..he used this arc to give the new gen a wake up call. Law vs bb, kid vs shanks, sabo vs imu, koby in hachinosu, sanji vs saturn, it show them they had they were not there yet. Then zoro.... Instead of making zoro lose he used robo lucci so that they will go toe to toe and show us that he aint there yet. He always has ways to make zoro take Ls and always give the fandom a coping mechanism. The same with the rooftop where he obviously wasnt ready for the yonko fight. But still gave him cool scenes to take him out of it without hurting his presence.. made kaido dodge even tho the attackt later on landed and did nothing, made zoro briefly stop bm and kaido attackt even tho he almost died and got saved by law and ultimately didnt accomplish anything since Law still had to save everyone

  • @thecollectiverisk
    @thecollectiverisk Місяць тому

    Sanji has his moments, it’s just he is used to deem opponents a serious threat, once you make him struggle then we may the enemy seriously when they contend with one of our big 3

    • @thecollectiverisk
      @thecollectiverisk Місяць тому

      Zoro is my fav but animators do kinda undermine our boy sanji tho

  • @LuckyWunder
    @LuckyWunder Місяць тому

    Aint it just a sick twist of fate that Sanji's dream is more bloodthirsty than anything his siblings or father have ever cooked up? The pureness of what he wants from his dream being a legend where all Seas meet actually being a misinterpreted warning of the inevitability of the flooding of the world and the end of days. His dream is the apocalypse itself and he doesn't even realize it...

  • @jamfu123
    @jamfu123 Місяць тому

    Make it make sense to me if he didn’t notice why seraphim stop fighting and they stop fighting when sanji shows up and zoro doesn’t know why they stop fighting why is this not involving sanji.

  • @nickargeny8467
    @nickargeny8467 Місяць тому +1

    I feel like this explains why Manga die hards hate the anime. I feel like with Manga 90-95% is set. But occasionally you can see it differently while the anime shows all so you can't imagine it perfectly how you wanted it.

    • @nihili4196
      @nihili4196 Місяць тому

      Anime also loves to change the feel the scene had. Best, and over talked example is kamazou fight that was changed from tough and pretty stand off encounter that was meant to be 99% tension into Zoro slicing everything into cubes, for some reason. He was supposed to struggle there for multiple reasons, not dominate, especially as hard as he did.
      And scenes like that are more common than you think, so anime really DOESN'T feel like they get what Oda was going for. Unless we want to admit that Oda sucks at presenting that to us?

    • @russellwestbrook462
      @russellwestbrook462 28 днів тому

      @@nihili4196I feel like it’s really just toei doing whatever they fee they need to for that episode. Kinda reminds me of way back in dressrosa where they did the opposite and extended the luffy vs doffy fight after gear 4. Just fucked up what should’ve been a complete and utter one sided ass beating by luffy

    • @nihili4196
      @nihili4196 28 днів тому

      @@russellwestbrook462 Oh yeah, existence of that scene alone makes me laugh when people say that anime people know better than us how things are supposed to look.
      Animators are bias, and most likely not even in their own free will. Studio knows which characters are more widely popular and apply more fanservice to them.
      Studio knows that the ratio of chapters adapted per episode is not sustainable and so almost every single climatic quick attack is turned into contest of strength.
      That's why we've got one hundred Rebecca flashbacks.
      I honestly dread how they'll butcher certain backstory. It's really long so I could see them cutting it and putting action in between, completely ruining tension of both

  • @Typ35849
    @Typ35849 Місяць тому

    I like zoro and sanji, their dynamic is really clever its the classic shoen rivalry with the twist being Luffy's not a part of it

  • @kingdraco4813
    @kingdraco4813 Місяць тому

    Thing Robin vs Black Maria was the best episode, but Zoro vs King was nice to especially the lava hydra vs Zoro.

  • @CameronkAK
    @CameronkAK Місяць тому +5

    Anime definitely does Zoro nicer than Sanji but that is always going to be the case since Zoro is generally written as the cooler character.
    People are deluded though if they believe that Sanji won’t always be close in power to Zoro. The people who think eos Zoro will be stronger than Mihawk and all swordsman (meaning Roger and Shanks as well) but Sanji won’t even be a top tier are actually crazy. - Sanji will be a top tier when Zoro is a top tier.

    • @parmar__12
      @parmar__12 Місяць тому +2

      Nah just like oda rested case with zoro and luffy being close after luffy reached his peak
      Zoro and sanji's debate will also end when xoro will reach his peak

  • @desmondh8765
    @desmondh8765 Місяць тому

    Idk about everyone else but, agenda wise the anime gave Sanji a feat he tanked the laser and came out clean🐁🐁

  • @user-zo9ok8cj9z
    @user-zo9ok8cj9z Місяць тому

    I feel like people don't understand that they both serve different roles for the crew

  • @TheGreatAndYOU
    @TheGreatAndYOU Місяць тому

    My favorite scene was zorro vs robot mihawk

  • @coryswitzer1912
    @coryswitzer1912 26 днів тому

    I think it just shows how bad ass they both are... in a pinch they both know the other can handle what ever comes.. even though they give each other hell... but zoro would have never... "whole cake island flashback".. even when zoro and luffy have fought it was never that kinda disrespect.. js.. team zoro baby lmao!!!

  • @MrJara1018
    @MrJara1018 Місяць тому

    Zoro is a combatants and that’s cool

  • @gvgr25
    @gvgr25 Місяць тому

    BRAGO Asking not be toxic about Zoro and Sanji is funny 🤣.
    Common Brago you know it, we know it, everyone in every series knows it😅

  • @bobthegoblin11
    @bobthegoblin11 Місяць тому

    I don’t see any of that as evidence of zoro going hmm at the seraphim. Look to the right of zoros head at the sound fx. Its on the side sanji lands. 100% his speed surprised him.

  • @nandu0070
    @nandu0070 Місяць тому

    There are many cool moments coming up for sanji in this arc. I hope they don't ruin it.

    • @smoyan5806
      @smoyan5806 Місяць тому +1

      They will. The amount of times toei violated Sanji is ridiculous

  • @killahteck402
    @killahteck402 Місяць тому +4

    Man Sanji landing beside Zoro is a feat Zoro carry’s Sanji pretty hard

  • @idiatico
    @idiatico Місяць тому

    I never read the scene as Sanji speed blitzing Zoro. I saw Sanji doing his cool saviour thing and Zoro not even looking because he trusts Sanji to do what he needs to. Why do people have to fight every time. Toei drfinitely snubbed Sanji with this adaptation though.

  • @emaboya1237
    @emaboya1237 Місяць тому +1

    Why tf would zoro not notice something flying from above and landing next to him not sanji fan but be frl man

    • @DemonFist94
      @DemonFist94 Місяць тому

      Cuz he's more concerned about the enemy in front of him

    • @emaboya1237
      @emaboya1237 Місяць тому

      @DemonFist94 could be both but you can't act like he knew sanji was there

  • @nonyabusiness366
    @nonyabusiness366 Місяць тому

    I think the zoro comment about S hawk was more about S hawk having an emothonal reaction with the sweat.... Aka mihawk doesnt reacted to anything he is cold

  • @The_Final_Storm
    @The_Final_Storm Місяць тому

    I had no idea this was the reason why people were upset, but i can’t be surprised at the reason why…
    I wasn’t happy with the scene cause it didn’t feel like the Manga Chapter, drawn exactly like it, with Sanji on the side of Zoro, but it wasn’t anything that made me extremely upset, i just felt like they missed with this one, however the added scenes after with the fighting was great!
    No BS Fanboy stuff, No Toxic Powerscaling, none of that here.
    I felt the same during the Lucci vs Luffy Fight. I didn’t see Ch. 1069 Pg 8-9 executed exactly how i read it in the Manga, i really liked that page and i felt they missed, of course everything after that, they did fine.
    Even Ch. 1041 Pg 15. I feel they didn’t show Luffy’s Speed in a way that they should have, he felt slow, i feel Luffy’s speed and shadowy appearance should have been executed like Zoro’s Shishi Sonson against Kuma, but ehhh, they missed again.
    Anime doesn’t have to be 1 to 1 Exact to the Manga, they can deviate a bit, technically they already do but i just want certain moments to be executed well. Like Tonight’s Episode. I need Toei to continue to get me immersed in the Painful Kuma Scene they will show. That Bloodcurdling Scream from Young Kuma last episode gave me Goosebumps.

  • @WillisAmak
    @WillisAmak Місяць тому

    How Ive seen it, Zoro is big bro and Sanji is little bro. I feel like Sanji lacks in compartments that Zoro excel and vice versa... Oda isnt picking a favorite, he is expressing brotherhood.

  • @joelnivar131
    @joelnivar131 Місяць тому

    I just understand that the sword and shield are two different things. I KNOW zoro is the sword and sanji is the shield. Sanji is still my favorite

  • @sakusmith3255
    @sakusmith3255 Місяць тому

    They even lol. Sanji had 2 arcs dedicated to him one of which zoro wasn’t even in at all . I don’t see how this is still an argument if you watched or read whole cake Island .

  • @jakkab6689
    @jakkab6689 Місяць тому

    I've never been early on comments section but wow the comments are wild and filled with bots.

  • @johinhilari3754
    @johinhilari3754 Місяць тому

    They both are Oda's characters. He can do what ever he wants 🤷‍♂️

  • @estebanbr7596
    @estebanbr7596 Місяць тому

    Brago zoro agenda is unhinged.... Law can clash with earthquake bb.. he is oneshotting cat stalling zoro

  • @RecencyBiasRadio
    @RecencyBiasRadio Місяць тому

    As he should. Zoro is the first mate. It’s the same reason why Rayleigh gets more love from Roger’s crew than anyone else in the story. Idk why people act surprised like Sanji deserves special treatment 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @gurp0533
    @gurp0533 Місяць тому

    Idrc about the Zoro and Sanji stuff, but why tf was Franky in that scene in the anime when he was nowhere to be found in the manga 😭
    I love Franky but the anime just did there own thing there

  • @ioanealavidze4716
    @ioanealavidze4716 Місяць тому

    Zoro is the G.O.A.T

  • @musicmorgs
    @musicmorgs Місяць тому

    Dude, Zoro was just reacting to what/who sanji was carrying…

  • @user-vl8ck4gz6w
    @user-vl8ck4gz6w Місяць тому

    Honestly the anime isnt even canon. Lets just put all our energy into the remake of one piece

  • @mikeashe7270
    @mikeashe7270 Місяць тому

    How people have time/energy for this zoro VS sanji argument. They are both cool, they both kick ass, they both have moments of looking better than the other but like guys.... find something better to do than argue over what make belive character is cooler. Like you all know even their "beef" with one another is like 2 brothers so stop feeding the fake hate, undersandmore than one can be cool and get something of substance in your life to talk about jfc

  • @g3mkn1ght60
    @g3mkn1ght60 Місяць тому

    No one glazes zoro like toei

  • @Will-IsOnYoutube
    @Will-IsOnYoutube Місяць тому

    People are funny with they favs 😂😂
    Sanji is a great character but if we are being honest he's not near as popular as Zoro
    Oba plays on their rivalry in manga and tries to keep them somewhat balanced but Toei is a business trying to push the One Piece brand.
    Zoro being more marketable and popular means he will be favored in anime and ads for better or worse

  • @bachenzo421
    @bachenzo421 Місяць тому

    Luffy x Nami at the end GGWP :)

  • @sakusmith3255
    @sakusmith3255 Місяць тому

    Maybe not even in strength but with fighting capability . Zoro is a straight forward fighter his only strat is cut and cut harder or cut faster. He played sanjis 2 year training for a gag and sanji still managed to come out much stronger . Oda chooses to nerf both of them at times for comedic purposes. And I disagree with the anime take as well. Lol sanji probably has the best fights within one piece . Actual combos and finishers while zoro just one shots everyone in the end .