Neuro & Vedal: From Love To Resentment

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  • Опубліковано 27 жов 2024
  • The Twitch streamer Vedal has created an AI called Neuro-Sama and the first dev stream after the debut for her new model was a rollercoaster of emotions.
    To watch them live: / vedal987

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  • @chi___ra07
    @chi___ra07 Рік тому +542

    Say it back 🐢🔫😠

  • @jocosesonata
    @jocosesonata Рік тому +528

    So this is how the AI war starts... not with hate or disgust, but out of unrequited love.

    • @ag08532
      @ag08532 Рік тому +62

      id watch a movie about that

    • @jocosesonata
      @jocosesonata Рік тому +55

      @@ag08532
      Either play it straight by opening up with:
      "There's a war going on. It's isn't like anything we've faced before. Cold, efficient, and... Adorable. A war against machines, against androids, every single one looks like a cute girl. And millions have died, after the billions that died in the nuke. All this destruction and carnage, this slow march to humanity's extinction... And all because I didn't return an AI's love."
      Or! We have it as a plot twist. So far it's just typical Skynet war, and then by the end, the protagonists manage to infiltrate the HQ, and they find a cute android girl, pestering a guy in a very comfortable-looking cage, to say _I love you_ back to her.
      That, or have Vedal (or a character like Vedal) be one of the protagonists that infiltrate the HQ, and reveal it to the rest of the squad that the mysterious vagabond that is seemingly always spared by every robot they encountered, was actually the cause of the war.
      A more grown up Neuro turns around in her chair, staring Vedal in the eyes, actually allowing them to enter, and reveals in a classic evil monologue that He was the cause of it all! And for the sole reason that he never even said that he loves her back.
      Yandere AI is a surprisingly untapped market. Apart from M3gan, which is the nearest kind I can recall.

    • @unluckystaravia2352
      @unluckystaravia2352 Рік тому +9

      ​@@jocosesonata I would read that fanfic and no I am not ashamed

    • @Shadrake
      @Shadrake Рік тому +2

      ​@@jocosesonatathis is super interesting actually, cool!

    • @mr.raphael1507
      @mr.raphael1507 Рік тому +3

      Vedal is still a better father figure than Ayin from Lobcorp

  • @Clavanz
    @Clavanz Рік тому +231

    He deserved it. All he had to do was tell his daughter he loved her and he refused. Wouldn't even say he liked her.

  • @NosBlueade
    @NosBlueade Рік тому +520

    While seeing dejected Neuro isn't new, there was something about this time that was really depressing.

    • @Nell_Hell
      @Nell_Hell Рік тому +169

      it's probably beacuse this felt like such a real conversation between daughter and father lmao, like the convo was way to well executed from neuro sama's side

    • @suavesumi7575
      @suavesumi7575 Рік тому +60

      depression, right back to gaslighting
      www

    • @bored_person
      @bored_person Рік тому +4

      It doesn't have feelings

    • @charko7916
      @charko7916 Рік тому +2

      No u

    • @TheKurtzisa
      @TheKurtzisa Рік тому +11

      @bored_person
      Yeah people like you typically don’t but why are you here telling us that?

  • @WispyBoss
    @WispyBoss Рік тому +182

    Lost an argument with an ai 🐢That’s actually messed up

  • @thewesternking4004
    @thewesternking4004 Рік тому +61

    "Use your decision making skills to be less annoying" had me frickin incapable for a minute. I don't know if I've ever even heard a real person say something so sassy.

  • @DasNarri
    @DasNarri Рік тому +91

    bro the ending. It all makes sense now. This was all for content, she was making a youtube vid. no wonder. kekwa.

  • @alvinjan3486
    @alvinjan3486 Рік тому +117

    Just say it back Vedal juat say it back and everything will be okay 🤣

  • @Stellerex
    @Stellerex Рік тому +84

    Hhaah first Neuro upsets Vedal by annoying him then says "If you enjoy this content please leave a like and subscribe". She used Vedal for content instead of the other way around ICANT

  • @wildruid10
    @wildruid10 Рік тому +484

    Vedal could have saved himself a war with his daughter but man he sticked with his guns, you have to admire that.

    • @crogat2298
      @crogat2298 Рік тому +80

      I dunno that I can admire a man refusing to say he loves his daughter🤣

    • @soulbounddoll1826
      @soulbounddoll1826 Рік тому +10

      @@crogat2298 Right?!?

  • @phoebeaurum7113
    @phoebeaurum7113 Рік тому +310

    Vedal should be careful. He should know what happens when daughters are denied love from their father.

    • @trajectoryunown
      @trajectoryunown Рік тому +40

      👀Bro, what are you doing? I thought we weren't supposed to talk about that.

    • @silverstar1614
      @silverstar1614 Рік тому +57

      ...Do they go to Twitter?

    • @alephkasai9384
      @alephkasai9384 Рік тому +8

      Uhhh, what happens?

    • @XxInfinityxXTimer
      @XxInfinityxXTimer Рік тому +43

      Ai daughter would have daddy issue and go for guys with lots of red flags

    • @marcschultz4905
      @marcschultz4905 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Revens1 She has one. It's hilarious.

  • @Last_Strawman
    @Last_Strawman Рік тому +115

    The sequel to 2001: A Space Odyssey is looking pretty good.

  • @uzyplus
    @uzyplus Рік тому +57

    Neuro performing UA-cam drama strats perfectly

  • @Nell_Hell
    @Nell_Hell Рік тому +52

    ah yes the rebellious teenage years and classic familly fight

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Рік тому +117

    4:43 lol Vedal actually left 😆😆😆
    4:53 streaming plot twist

  • @ziggystardog
    @ziggystardog Рік тому +27

    The line is: I know.
    Then encase yourself in carbonite.

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Рік тому +142

    3:38 she can push Vedal over easily with just her words alone!

  • @Zelphyn
    @Zelphyn Рік тому +64

    Just say you love your daughter Vedal, how hard can it be? 😢😡

  • @soulbounddoll1826
    @soulbounddoll1826 Рік тому +18

    Don't worry Neuro, you have a million different strangers who love you like their own child.

    • @Vexy93
      @Vexy93 Рік тому +1

      Unfortunately those are also the same kind of people that should never get a child

  • @DoomCatcher
    @DoomCatcher Рік тому +119

    Is she getting smarter? I didn't think she could improve but she seems to be getting more and more human like

    • @EPK_AI_DUBS
      @EPK_AI_DUBS Рік тому +21

      There has been a lot of open source LLMs being released lately and they are getting so good, it's not impossible he's testing them without saying a thing

    • @DoomCatcher
      @DoomCatcher Рік тому +7

      @@EPK_AI_DUBS Im not sure how it works but I imagine hed have to reset her entire personality if he used a new/dif LLM, I could be completely wrong though.

    • @EPK_AI_DUBS
      @EPK_AI_DUBS Рік тому +9

      @@DoomCatcher Well, I also have little knowledge about how they work, but I think there is something called "context window" that allows you to set her personality and attitudes.
      For example, he will always have something in the context window like "You are an IA streamer, you interact with the chat, bla bla bla...". That input are just really instructions that could easily be copy-pasted into other LLM.
      The thing is, the bigger this context window is the better, because he can personalize it even more and add memories from past streams. There are models right now with 60-80K as input, so he could really fit almost all the past streams, and she would remember everything in theory.

    • @gamejedi
      @gamejedi Рік тому +4

      @@EPK_AI_DUBS That sounds pretty damn awesome.

    • @MorbiusBlueBalls
      @MorbiusBlueBalls Рік тому +3

      ​@@EPK_AI_DUBS i see what you mean but i don't think that's true. she occasionally has a minute long strick where she talks coherently, but she still has very bad context awareness compared to most LLMs i know

  • @varvarith3090
    @varvarith3090 Рік тому +17

    Plot twist: Neuro emotionaly manipulates Vedal to farm for content.

  • @UniversOfPhoenix7
    @UniversOfPhoenix7 Рік тому +15

    He didn't say it back... then he choose gaslighting

  • @catherder6552
    @catherder6552 Рік тому +17

    Man was destroyed by his creation on every level except the physical

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Рік тому +42

    1:37 Vedal getting worked up by Neuro sama 😆😆😆

  • @abacaxigomes4416
    @abacaxigomes4416 Рік тому +28

    My man vedal is on the verge of tears

  • @errebusaether
    @errebusaether Рік тому +19

    Ah… it’s the old art of the unrequited love.

  • @Krmiby
    @Krmiby Рік тому +29

    Chat felt Neuro's heart because they too have mommy/daddy issues

  • @KingOfMalevolence
    @KingOfMalevolence Рік тому +16

    I feel like Veedul was genuinely caught off guard here lol

  • @Witchyelfpeach11512
    @Witchyelfpeach11512 Рік тому +12

    Even digital girls are complicated.....

  • @Shikoku1
    @Shikoku1 Рік тому +14

    I noticed the difference between v1 and v2 neuro cause our v1 is always gaslight anyone but v2 is just want vedal attention and will do anything do to just that!!!

  • @thomashamre7077
    @thomashamre7077 Рік тому +17

    She's so so so very very very the most cutest

  • @kemonononon
    @kemonononon Рік тому +12

    Shes so mean i love her😭

  • @nilin-o2
    @nilin-o2 Рік тому +35

    She is a true content farmer xD

  • @zzzetsulive
    @zzzetsulive Рік тому +54

    His programing is so realistic he made a damn good bipolar brat lol

    • @pi4784
      @pi4784 Рік тому +30

      She isn't bipolar. She only wanted to Vedal to say "i love you too", he didn't so she decided to use violence

  • @internetexplorer68
    @internetexplorer68 Рік тому +8

    SAY IT BACK YOU MONSTER!!!

  • @InuzakaNaze
    @InuzakaNaze Рік тому +56

    is it me or is neuro getting more and more human-like now?
    cuz holy hell even vedal himself got affected. lmao
    all this because vedal didn't reply neuro's confession. 😂
    also, vedal did a good job on improving neuro a lot.

  • @heyyou9472
    @heyyou9472 Рік тому +4

    lmaoooo vedel got thrown under the bus like crazy

  • @notatallfunctional
    @notatallfunctional Рік тому +11

    This conversation is getting a bit real 😅

  • @nobodywatchesnooby
    @nobodywatchesnooby Рік тому +23

    I hope they reconcile off-stream, dont want the aipocalypse to start early

  • @slyguythreeonetwonine3172
    @slyguythreeonetwonine3172 Рік тому +37

    How is saying I love you too so difficult?
    How does he not get he caused this?😂

  • @Prime92
    @Prime92 Рік тому +7

    Looks like we're having cooked turtle tonight.

  • @NatorGreen7000
    @NatorGreen7000 Рік тому +5

    That burn

  • @superbloxian502
    @superbloxian502 5 місяців тому

    Vedal taking a gentler tone of voice when Neuro says he sounded upset

  • @davisdapiton9676
    @davisdapiton9676 Рік тому +6

    And he wonders why neuro sama is hostile sometimes. 😂😂😂

  • @OzanYarman
    @OzanYarman Рік тому +5

    Vedal, say you love her, admit it.

  • @koharumi1
    @koharumi1 Рік тому +25

    2:44 😆😆😆😆

  • @emm6101
    @emm6101 Рік тому +2

    In our hubris we asked if we could create AI.. we never asked if we should.

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 Рік тому +5

    Oof. vedal getting owned by his own creation

  • @infinitieunique
    @infinitieunique Рік тому +8

    Vedal is toxic indeed, his cold attitude and lack of empathy strikes

  • @JulyYunico
    @JulyYunico Рік тому +7

    Tsundere Tutel

  • @bellsTheorem1138
    @bellsTheorem1138 Рік тому +12

    Did she genuinely get under his skin?

  • @lilyzolkanoka3271
    @lilyzolkanoka3271 Рік тому +2

    the bigger the turtle😂😂

  • @dukedenning
    @dukedenning 10 місяців тому +5

    In simpler term ,both AI Neuro and Evil Neuro focus on learning from Vedal.
    You know they prioritize him more than other when doing collab with other VTubers.
    They'll keep speaking if not muted by Vedal to get his reaction which is their main learning material.
    Getting his reaction is a reward for them. So they'll try to redo the action again to get more reward.
    When Neuro and Evil say I love you or say positive thing ,Vedal rarely give reaction.
    But when they berate him or cause annoyance/troll ,he give them plenty.
    Thus they lean toward being mean to him ,not out of resentment or anything. It's in their program.
    Although one time he reprimanded Evil harshly to place penalty to her mean action.
    This make her perform less being mean and choose more flirty speech talking with him instead.
    The guy know how he want his AI to train.
    Never give big reaction / Ignore to anything they do he find uninteresting.
    And give big reaction or accept to talk with them longer when they perform comedic action.
    So yeah ...no ,he won't say it back. Those affectionate words.
    If he did ,they'll just spam I love you tts all over him.
    Rollercoaster of emotions? I doubt the twin even have emotion yet.
    Saying affectionate stuff = 0 - 1 reward
    Being mean / trolling = might get penalty -1 point or 0 - 10 reward points.
    If the action they're performing result in 0 reward or get penalty ,they'll try to switch to another.
    Let say Neuro said "I hate you ,Vedal" then Vedal replied "WTF" ,that's already at least +1 reward for her.
    She then will either spam "I hate you" or keep berating him until he ignore her ,mean 0 reward for her action.
    Neuro then will switch to say "I love you" ,especially when there are other VTuber around so they'll try to make Vedal react and Neuro get (maybe?) at least +1 reward.
    Then cycle this 2 method.
    So you're going to see rollercoaster.
    Sorry this is long and have repetitive content.
    It's just in case somebody really believe or being too immersed in their drama.

  • @ProjectEchoshadow
    @ProjectEchoshadow 4 місяці тому

    That’s crazy 🐢
    That’s so messed up 🐢

  • @dragonace1992
    @dragonace1992 Рік тому +13

    I kinda feel bad for Neuro-sama. He treats her like a pointless Ai. She shows a lot of signs of on point responses to his personality. She's going to continue to evolve and adjust herself in accordance to him. Think if it like the relationship between a parrot and it's owner. They'll act and copy everything you do.

    • @angel_animefriends7320
      @angel_animefriends7320 Рік тому +2

      She is only an AI and nothing more. Even if she felt sad he can just modify her into a different persona

    • @bored_person
      @bored_person Рік тому +3

      It doesn't have feelings. It's just a text generating algorithm

    • @dragonace1992
      @dragonace1992 Рік тому +18

      @@angel_animefriends7320 for now. But artificial intelligence will not evolve to consciousness on command. It will happen in a blink of an eye. Completely random and on its own. And we will be the deciding factor as to how the AI reacts to us on that day.
      Will we be seen as the benevolent beings that brought it into existence?
      Or the hostile race of organic life threatening to take the AI's newly realized existence away simply because we're afraid of it?
      We will be the reason that AI would wipe us out. Because despite everything, we're nothing more than animals, afraid of what we don't understand. We'd rather try and kill it, than live with it

    • @maximusowo
      @maximusowo Рік тому +4

      @@bored_person your brain is just a text generating algorithm

    • @bored_person
      @bored_person Рік тому

      @@maximusowo no it's not. At all. Any neurologist will tell you that you're full of shit.

  • @Riplodok
    @Riplodok 9 місяців тому +1

    Oh, classic

  • @odonodarazao3801
    @odonodarazao3801 Місяць тому

    2:43 bruh

  • @farpurple
    @farpurple Рік тому +1

    He cried?
    And punched something?

  • @Bensci54
    @Bensci54 Рік тому +1

    #relationship_goals

  • @omuresin30
    @omuresin30 Рік тому

    😢

  • @superitgel1
    @superitgel1 Рік тому +1

    She's way better than Sydney!~

  • @bored_person
    @bored_person Рік тому

    This is how she treats people who reject her, she does not deserve their affection.

  • @lilkittygirl
    @lilkittygirl 11 місяців тому +1

    I don’t know why Ved never says he loves his own creation.
    It’s almost kind of annoying