This is so scary. Even when people are trying to get help they can still be set back if not placed in the right center. Everything is about money, and its sad that even places like this can be corrupt ☹️
Putting an addict in a group of addicts to be led by other addicts is generally a bad idea. There is no such thing as a former addict, so if your counselors are former patients, remember they are addicts as well. Not saying you can’t recover from addiction, just that a “recovered addict” is still an addict.
This is what terrifies me. The things I have heard about rehab clinics and inpatient. The schematics for the layout must also not be conducive to healthy phenomena. If it's correctional in layout it is only going to perpetuate an attitude of control and destroy.
I’m a psychiatrist working at a hospital in Florida. I cannot thank this person enough for coming forward. In south Florida rehab centers are highly corrupt and take advantage of np vulnerable people frequently. The “south Florida shuffle” is a term used in common parlance among the mental health community down here.
When I was in my early twenties, I was involuntarily put into a corrupted rehab. I agree that I needed help but it was a terrible, traumatic experience from the beginning (when I was literally kidnapped from my place while asleep). My parents wanted to help me but they didn’t know what they signed me up for. I witnessed a suicide, several attempts of suicide, total malnutrition, almost lethal intoxications with different cleaning supplies. Several people jumped from the windows to run away. Some of our consultants slept with young women (patients) or asked them to do a massage for them. I also experienced medical neglect which lead to surgery for me and an elderly person. And a cherry on top of everything was that our lead security person (who was also a former patient) was smuggling methadone and weed inside and he paid for it from the money our parents paid for our food. The thing is that they are targeting families of addicts who are sad and exhausted because of the sickness of their loved ones and would do and listen to everything those rehabs tell them. I escaped this place after 9 months (a lot of people were there for much longer with some exemptions: like when their families couldn’t pay anymore), including two teenage girls who definitely learned more about drugs while being inside. I tried to be a picture-perfect patient to have a chance to finally leave that rehab. When I was very sick they couldn’t drive me to an ET or call an ambulance because they were operating illegally and my parents came to help me. Only after some time I very carefully told them some things I experienced and that I wanted to be free. I was very afraid because I was one of the most privileged patients because of my behaviour and I had the luxury to listen to short calls our “management” was making to some parents, spouses etc. Basically, they were saying them to not believe anything their relatives could possibly tell them because they are addicts. Which is kinda true, but they were hiding their own shenanigans with it.
Thank you Vice for doing these interviews and opening our eyes. Deep down one has a feeling of things that are off and one can’t always go by hunches. So these interviews should give insight into implementing more strict regulations and hiring more competent and caring people.
@@maryshaffer8474 I (as a former drug user) can see the prob with that myself... I know we probably know more than a person who has never used BUT the temptation is always there...recipe for disaster
@@dawnhopkins3085 to be fair, as an addict it's hard to find the connection with a non addict in those situations. Even just an alcoholic is hard to connect with as a hard drug user. Not saying that it's right just that it's real
@@maryshaffer8474 yeah they have too. I have a therapist try to tell me her addiction to control was the same as mine to heroin... No it wasn't darling
As someone who's worked in Addiction Rehab for 9 years, this is definitely not uncommon. The Out Patient facility I worked at for years back in Ohio had patients selling and using in the parking lots. There were a few coworkers that had affairs and relationships with patients. When I was first hired I learned very quickly, the best place to find drugs is at a rehab clinic. I got into this field to help people, because my best friend from high school overdosed and died, and to see this, is really sad, because it does happen. Now I work for a good inpatient facility in another state, and love my job. It is definitely toxic and stressful, but it comes with the territory. Huge congrats to everyone that's gotten clean and sober. I've met some of the nicest people that were addicts. All they need is that chance.
Dude, the mentors are all reformed addicts. You surprised a large portion relapse? Also, everyone there knows plenty of dealers. The rest is just civil allegations involved in trying to get the bills paid and degenerates destroying their marriages.
Unfortunately I experienced a similar thing in the psychiatric hospital. I was forced to stay longer because they wanted to “ensure I was fine to leave” when I was clearly better (but I had good health insurance), while others on medi-cal showing signs they need help and asked to stay longer were rushed out. It’s so sad how these places are a business and are not there helping the vulnerable like they are supposed to
It's an evil world because it belongs to satan. The LOVE of money is the root of ALL evil!. The CIA is responsible for the drug problems in this world. They want everybody to be an addict. They can handle (manage) the vulnerable weak helpless people much easier. So sad. We all need Jesus in our lives. We need to know His word and follow him. We have to live IN this evil world but we need to NOT be a Part of it. We need to stay away from worldly things. Pray, believe, live according to HIM. We can do all things through HIM.
I’m a recovering drug addict with 3 years clean. I used drugs for 8 years and went to multiple rehabs for help in Florida and can confirm everything this girl is saying is true.
Congratulations on being clean 3 years and for the other person in cometing on there Congratulations on being clean 3 years and for the other person in cometing on their sobriety as well That's a huge accomplishment God bless you made you stay sober for the rest of your life and have good lives
I was the last patient at a rehab that was closing amid a series of sexual abuses that affected me and several other patients. It is surreal how much in common my rehab had with this one. Luckily the culprit was exposed and I and a few others wearable to stay sober through the mess. It’s really easy to say “just go get help” to a struggling addict but what most people don’t understand is what it’s like to hand your life over to others as forfeit, and trust that they’re not going to exploit you when you’re at your most vulnerable.
No one believed me when I told them that all the rehabs I went to where corrupt. The exact story is what I went they many many times … he couldn’t be more accurate.. and on top of this… there’s way worse stories .. My room mate got stuck in the rehab system and left rehab. That day she left… she ended up relapsing from the owner who supplied her with drugs so she would come back but she overdosed and they fed her body to the crocodiles. The police found her body bc the crocodiles didn’t go high enough up into the Everglades where they tried to “hide” her body. They got busted thankfully but that’s just one thing that happened there. I’ve had friends found dead in trash and through out the city. Don’t go to rehabs in Florida. !
My cousin swore the rehab they sent her to in Florida seemed more like a recruit for prostitution . She said something about feeding a woman’s body to crocs. We thought she had brain damage from meth. Now I feel bad for disrespecting her.
I was in and out of these type of rehabs in south Florida from 2014-2019. It was hell. You were just a number, and that number was the number on your insurance card. I had really good insurance, thankfully from my father working a good job. These places would offer me drugs and or cash to stay longer than I was supposed to. And when I would eventually leave, they would call or text me every week seeing if I needed to come back so they could profit off of me. A lot of my friends ended up dying due to places like this.
They should have been reported to the DEA and other authorities. The gov't are the most crooked people in the world and they probably wouldn't have done anything.
Absolutely true. 💯 I worked at one and had to leave once I realized what it was about was too sickening and unethical. It's all about $ milking insurance as long as possible medicating and babysitting patients til insurance stops paying. I'm too caring and empathetic that it caused me to become ill so I quit. It disgusted me to profit off of disease of addiction where people would be treated like a number. I can tell you employees are treated horribly and unsupported too.
Same things go on In psychiatric hospitals too. I worked on a medium secure unit for 3 years. And the amount of abuse and lack of empathy I witnessed will forever weigh heavy on my heart. I did the best I could, became so depressed it manifested into my whole body being covered in rashes to not being able to walk for a week. The mental strain and heavy ness I carried for those years became unbearable that I forced myself to leave because I held onto to staying for so long, holding onto the hope that something would change and it never did.
This! I was in and out CAMHS units my whole teenage years and the things I saw and experienced, from staff made me 100x worse than ever was before. They have even admitted as much, hence why been kicked out of every service as no one wants the liability
I’m so glad you took care of that little girl inside you and acted with all your courage. You sound like a brave person. Thank you for helping to make outsiders aware. I too went thru something that when I tell it, isn’t believed. I’m lucky that my sister came with me to witness it for herself. We faced off with the Director directly. His staff was terrified of him. They seemed brainwashed if that makes any sense. It’s hard for two people to move the needle, but if WE ALL speak up, it makes a difference. Thank you, Mark. For providing the platform here at SWU. Might I add- that hospital has since closed. But not before I campaigned to call anyone and everyone in State government that would listen.
I worked at Patton State Hospital under Canteen, and it was nuts in there It's so corrupted, i would get 100 bucks for a bag of tobacco buglars lol Nurse's would bring certain patients from outside Good life experience, i must say
Ask anyone who's been to rehab. Ask them how was it and did it help. You'd be extremely surprised the stories these people tell. This person is a worker. Imagine the patients stories
@@maxpoh Yes as you mentioned in the Netherlands. No one is saying all rehabs is bad. This space is to make more aware of the corrupt harmful ones. While I’m not surprised because everything is about money. I surely didn’t know it was this type of corruption going on.
It depends on the rehab and staff, unfortunately that is true for many many people. But there are also a lot of incredibly good rehabs that care about you deeply and give you the tools you really need to get well and stay that way. I’ve been to inpatient rehab 4 times and outpatient 3 times. Addiction has been my darkest perpetual struggle. But the final rehab I went to was fucking extraordinary. It forever changed my outlook on the treatment world being corrupted in someway as a whole
I went to a local rehab for a week and was done. That place made me never want to drink again! I felt awful for the people who’d been there, in and out, so many times. Also what they advertise is NOT what you get. Their ad was like “this is heaven” - and it was definitely hell. Anyway, it’s been 1 year and 3 months cold turkey & the best decision I ever made.
I used to work for a corrupt rehab clinic and my heart dropped when I saw this video. I’m sure things like this happen at a lot of rehab centers because I witnessed the same things in this video. I have so many stories…
I was brokered for 6 months, saw staff selling heroin to patients in detox, seen staff beat patients up, been to a place where two directors of the program got multiple patients pregnant. So many set backs but I’m doing good now
This is so true as someone who has been through rehab and my family has all been through rehab I can confirm this whole video in the one statement “profit over people”.
I am so glad to see more people talking about this! From cartels to the legal system to the recovery/pharmaceutical industry, addiction is big business.
Someone who went to multiple rehabs I can tell you the biggest problem with facilities is the mixing of court mandated patients with voluntary patients in programs
I'm from Cincinnati I've never once heard of anyone getting to go to rehab vs jail, even for first offenses like possession, pretty much every drug is a felony except for weed here, under a certain amount its just a ticket.. Even with no prior record and your just dependant on opiates. Straight to jail, With no help, no classes meetings nothing. People die in jail from withdraws and issues that come along with it, malnutrition dehydration, seizures, hypertension of the heart, suicide because withdraws so bad, you name it.
Im a fent addict and I’ve been recovering and getting clean. I knew when I first wanted to quit that I wouldn’t ever use rehab or a facility. I went to my personal doctor instead and I’m handling it with the help of friends and family. Im lucky to have them tho, not everyone gets that benefit
Good luck on your journey. I will say I got clean on my own in 2018 then relapsed in 2019 and went into a treatment center. It was the best thing I did for me, but as with everything your mileage may vary. Stay strong friend.
I'm on fetty also, about 8-10 years now. I want to get off it but last time I tried I didn't sleep for 17 days started feeling crazy on top of being sick and gave up. I was still just as dope sick on the 18th day as I was on the 5th.. What can a doctor do for someone or myself. I have insurance. I wish they'd just ween us off of it with pharmaceutical grade opiates, so its controlled taper.
Also im 4 weeks completely free of opiates now. I started treatment in December, relapsed a couple times a week for awhile, then just recently stopped relapsing.
@@ayten3617 there are absolutely treatment centers that will wean you off opiates using pharmaceuticals (primarily being methadone and subs). It made the taper much much easier than cold turkey. I was also placed on a dose of phenobarbital as I was also hooked on benzos and cold turkey can be particularly dangerous.
@@ayten3617 I also recommend saying you were on a slightly higher dose then you were when checking into these programs because I found it make them taper even easier. The pheno helped keep me leveled out. Good luck on your journey. It’s never easy and relapses happen but if you don’t try you’ll end up dead like most of us.
What a stupid comment. "Whenever a group of people are together"? Nah. When evil people get together there is corruption. I've been in many many groups where there is goodness and truth and no lies all around.
This makes me so angry as someone whos gotten sober. Ppl need to be placed in good facilities and rehab is NOT someones place to take advantage of vulnerable addicts all for the sake of money. I hope all the corrupt places get shut down bc its already hard to get sober, adding all this to the mix is making it even worse. My ex died from an overdose despite his dad tryna get him help bc the system failed him. He didnt have a lotta money so he wasnt prioritized and was left to die. I feel so lucky that i was able to get the monthly vivitrol shot instead of having to deal w places like this. The shot is super expensive and i wish it could be made more affordable so more ppl could benefit from it. That shot saved my life.
I had an excellent counselor named Roland, who saved my life. The kindness I received from him as well as the tough love he gave me when I messed up added to the excellent group caseload sessions and 1 on 1 time, are what helped me learn to deal with my problems head on. I struggled for years after program but not with drugs. I was also in Victory Outreach for 3 days, that was a crazy place. Gave me 3 days to kick heroin before I had to "build the church." I never made it but leaving was more like escaping since the guy running the house chased me down.
Thank you for this! The rehab industry needs to get exposed, so many places are run on a profit over people. I’ve witnessed first hand how evil some of these places are- I’ve visited three different rehabs in Europe and two of them were driven with only profit in mind- with minimal to no care whatsoever for the patients health and recovery. One of the places was similar to being in prison. It’s a very lucrative field for the cynical. Thank god not all of these places are the same.
It was 14 years ago that I was sent to a Drug/Alcohol rehab in Malibu to work, by the Nurse Registry I worked for. This was in Malibu, a huge center for these businesses. I was disgusted with what I saw, and my mouth got me a quick exit after two weeks. My manager at the Registry said I needed to be more tactful, but was in agreement with me. It seemed every person I spoke to about how dysfunctional it was, said they already knew that. It is no secret these facilities are scams, and poorly run. I tried looking for a State agency to call and make a report, but it was futile. The place I was at, has since gone out of business. If you run an expose, most people will say they already know. In a world where it is already busy, chaotic and overwhelming, most people are to busy trying to keep their sanity, to care about places like these.
Thank you Vice for this story as it takes the courage of investigative journalism to expose this type of fraud. I knew a rehab facility owner in LA who made a fortune off bills to insurance companies. A patient was just a means to insurance money, not for care or treatment.
That's real talk because I did a year and alcohol and Drug rehab and the director told me how Shady this business is people will prioritize money over people's addiction instead of helping them
I worked the night shift for a rehab in Northern California for 8 years. Some of this sounds familiar, and some not so much. It did seem like management was pushing and prioritizing paying clients to get more money. I did have both a manager and coworker leave the program due to sexual relationships with clients. I had coworkers relapse. I had clients that died too young. But, I did also see clients work though the therapy and achieved a lifestyle that they where addiction free and happy with.
I also worked in a NorCal rehab in Grass Valley, CA called granite wellness center that was terrible, after going thru two deaths from overdoses I couldn’t take it anymore. It was just completely corrupt. We had an employee sleeping with a client inside his room in the actual residential facility. It’s so sad
Treatment is all a model based around profit of helping addicts. Some are more ethical than others. Some are this one like sovergn health. That’s I personally know distributed money and cash to people human trafficking people for insurance money.
about the sexual relationships, there was an incident were a serial rapist infiltrated the network and flatout raped the relatives of both the coworkers and clients then the coworker and the clients the individual was bisexual and said to have raped over 50 people i read it on an article in 2006 all the victims have committed suicide it is not know where he is now and is said to be on the loose
It wasn't Walden House, was it? I went through walden house, my counselor there was a very genuine person but some of the other staff were manipulative. Another counselor attempted to get me to fetch a snack for her out of the commissary closet, she called me on the intercom for no other reason than she wanted a snack. I told her no and I slip canned her. She apologized to me the next day. Those treats were for the residents, not staff. She was shocked that I didn't simp for her. I ran into the weekend counselor down in the TL nodding off so bad that she didn't even know i was there. She was extremely rude to me and didn't think I belonged there because "I was a little white boy" and to "go home." I guess that was in a way a compliment. Im pretty sure she is back on the street and I own my own house. We both went to the same rehab but somehow I have stayed away from the drug life.
I voluntarily entered myself in. I was at one for 2 weeks and I got better. When I tried saying I'm fine and wanted to leave, they said "oh no, you're worse than ever" and they wanted to keep me for another month. But after I told them my insurance only covers 2 weeks... I was released that day .
This really opened my eyes why people don’t even want to get help when they have a problem. My heart goes out to those suffering from addiction and I pray for change.
I was in one of these. No one Believed me. I relapsed alot after the fact and almost died. but im sober now, and trying to come to terms with my own experience. And just act like its cool now. Thank you for coming out to tell your truth. You give me hope in a desensitized world that some people care.
I’ve been thru this exact same experience going from over 30 rehabs. They all were crooked no matter how nice they might have seemed. They flew me out there paying for the plane ticket and after graduating they would actually give drugs to u to relapse so u go back to their facility. Then when u want to leave they won’t help buy a plane ticket back home so most people end up homeless on the streets. And on top of that they give anyone that refers a client to their rehab 2 grand or more if they stay at least 15 days … so there are vultures everywhere looking for people to get into rehab. It was fucked up. We called it the South Florida shuffle.
This needs to be illegal. It's sick what's happening in America, you would never see this happen in the UK, because of the NHS we get treated fairly, it's not about money
@@aurora6920 it’s definitely illegal but is kept under wraps by the right people as long as possible. Just disgusting. Like if you’re gonna deal drugs why go to treatment centers or meetings??? Just pure selfishness, even more than you’re regular exploitative dealer. I’ve lost several friends in recovery this way. I’m grateful I’m alive today and sober
I was an addict for over 20 years. Heroin took over my life time and time again. I have been in a treatment of some sort an easy 35 times. Whether they were detox centers, rehabs, sober living, inmate drug program, or sober companion. Clean I had a chance to work at a few places myself, these places had these grey area job positions for clients that finish the program - sometimes hiring clients after 30 days of clean time. Everything this guy is saying is 100 percent true. I knowingly have been to some shady places, either because I just wanted help so badly that I didn't care where I was going. Many places have these God complex people working for them, that suffered addiction at one point themselves. These people go on insane power trips and are very unprofessional. This report literally only scratched the surface to the shady dealings of the rehab business. I could write books on this.
Wow I was shocked to hear the informer say it was in California and not South Florida 😳 I was in a facility in West Palm Beach back in 2018 where I was able to purchase Methadone and Suboxone while in “treatment” as a 400 dollar a day Heroin addict…def a scary business
@@firstmkb this was around the time that James Kigar was making millions off of patient insurance while using paid workers to entice addicts to “relapse” and continue to return to “rehab” luckily I met someone who truly had my best interests at hand and I have been sober since 2019…no less than 13 decent people I met while in “treatment” overdosed I am one of the lucky ones
U bought methadone n Suboxone while in treatment to what get high ? Wym u bought it n u said u was a 400$ addict while in treatment it just doesn't make sense
I'm a Case Manager at one of the best rehabs in Australia. Thank God there is a network of therapeutic communities here who take the work very seriously and professionally. I often tell clients to never take for granted the chance to go somewhere effective to get well, unlike the US where they'd have to pay exuberant amounts of money just to get shuffled between these corrupt places.
If y'all think this is bad, wait till you hear about CAMHS (Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services) units. Literally had staff let other patients beat me up for being Trans. Major neglect and abuse of rights. Discharging patients the day after tried to kill themselves on the unit. Lots of self harm and drug use, infront of staff even. Giving those with eating disorders and dietary requirements the wrong food on purpose. Constantly having folk abscond scared due to incompetence of staff. Staff being sexual with patients. Bringing police in to threaten patients for simply not doing what staff said, even if posed no risk, including armed. You name it, I have probably witnessed/experienced it.
It's absolutely sickening. The staff themselves need serious mental health care...evil truly lives among us..I was homeless in TN for a while and they were some of the most disturbed, tramatized abusive people I've ever met. If anything ever happens and you live in Nashville I beg of you do not go the the Nashville rescue mission.
So thankful for my positive experience at a great rehab facility in 2015. They truly cared about my sobriety and because of that I was able to find myself and remain sober to this day. It’s sad a sick that most of these places are just all about the money and couldn’t care less about the patients
The thing about rehabs (I worked as a BHT) is that they hire lots of newly sober people, they definitely rush people thru their program and don’t really stick to what the program is really meant for. Working in a rehab was quite traumatic nevertheless
Why the F would they hire people like that with confirmed histories? My god, the level of incompetency and endangerment are unbelievable..this is so reckless. It scares me that institutions don't vet harder and nobody is getting punished.
Yes the one I worked at preferred people that had history with drug use. But not all of the people they hired seemed to be fully rehabilitated themselves
I'm a delivery driver and I've delivered to "self help housing" places where they are basically group homes for rehab. However they all seem to be run down and dirty with no one present 24/7 to monitor the patients. I never could understand how a place like that would help someone get thru an addiction.
I was in a mental health facility in Delaware that constantly told young women it was their fault for sexual assult/rape. The night staff molested people and they stole personal objects brought in.
Quitting was one the hardest things i ever did. Friends of mine were dying and I was on the line as well. The hardest thing to come to terms with was my choices. Addiction isnt an illness or disease, its simply a series of bad choices. That first choice was the hardest, but I did make it one day. I chose life. I chose to stop making the choice to die. 13 years later, ive left 10 years of addiction far behind me.
Addiction is an illness, I'm glad you recovered, but just because you did, doesn't mean Addiction isn't an illness. Addiction is a symptom of multiple mental health illness's, and when you are mentally unwell, it is very difficult to know what the real right choice is, so I have to disagree that addiction is just a series of bad choices. It's far more complicated than that. It could have been that way for you, or for some, but not for all.
@@AshtonAU I would say that many mental health conditions can lead people to make the choices that lead to addictions, but those addictions arent caused by anything but the choices. Life is complicated, thats why sometimes, you cant just look at problems like one big thing, but break them down into smaller, more manageable issues. It took me years to go from 15 year homeless drug addict to "well" adjusted citizen. One thing at a time. Got home. Got sober. Got job. Got happy. Doing well. =)
I was tortured in Mexico for 10 months in one of these centers. I was supposed to go in for mental help, ocd, not drug rehab. It’s been the worst experience of my life and still am suffering from the physical/emotional torture
I’ve been to some horrible rehab facilities. The worst part is that when you’re in addiction, nobody will believe you that the facility is bad and that you’re not just trying to get out & use.
So, I've been to 2 rehabs in my life. Once when I was young, and once about 5 years ago where it really worked for me. I went back to work there for a period of time. I don't know if I got lucky or what, but I stayed sober and really applied myself while I was there. Most people do not. Most people are focused on everything and anything but the work they need to be doing on themselves. I'm not saying there wasn't a GIANT pile of nonsense (especially working there).. When I went in there, I thought they were just in it for the money too. Until I found out that they would extended my stay for as long as I wanted (totally free mind you.. no insurance, no nothing).. because I was actually doing the work. Turns out my center would do that for ANYONE that wanted to stay. But only a few out of hundreds ever did. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know, but I do know that everyone that went through that treatment, all thought it was corrupt and could not stop complaining... and all of them were just waiting to get high again. That's the sad truth.. The help is there (it always has been) but people focus on the wrong things and never become open and willing to really do the work. Very few do. It's so rare, it's like a miracle when someone does it. And when someone does it, people will move MOUNTAINS to help them. If they really want it... There is a HUGE difference between "saying" that you want something, and actually taking the actions and steps to do something. Most people are good at "saying" stuff, but they never follow through. They start focusing on what staff is doing wrong, the focus on their family, they focus on the other people in the center, and they never focus on themselves and what THEY need to do...
One of the most difficult and brave things for someone to do is make the decision to leave a toxic traumatic work environment. ESPECIALLY one that exists within a helping profession. Choosing yourself is helping your clients. Always choose yourself.
Thank you for writing this!!! This is the lesson I'm trying to come to terms with now. We sacrifice everything and destroy ourselves in the helping professions. It should never be sacrificing self and destroying your health in order to help others. I'm learning now I'll have to exit the field for my own self preservation and mental health. Healthcare is very toxic and draining.
I worked in the field for almost 25 years. I knew about these places. They pay well unfortunately it's crazy. I found that I would rather work at a lower wage at a smaller facility. The big facilities are some of the worst for corruption and abuse. I had more clinical experience at the last facility than most of my higher ups. They ended up closing down and thats when I found out ALL the secrets. Glad they closed! I also have been sober on top of this since 10/18/1989! Research where you go. There are excellent places out there. Not all the big names and expensive ones are the best btw! ✌
We're encouraged to do our research now that's good. But still when you call to get in a rehab in a hospital there's often a wait. I recently saw addicts freaking out on psych wards they were placed on in lieu of rehab. Begging for ativan. Being refused. It was hard to see.Hard to listen to. Total compliance- agreement was key to getting out. Agreeing with everything. Never disagreeing with the Doctors. I saw strange stuff. I can say some of the staff were really professional and kind despite some really shady stuff going on. The fear of Covid was tough in close quarters. There were patients quarantined. There were violent screaming altercations. Intimidations. Really weird noises especially. In the Upstate NY psych center we couldn't ever go outside. That was the toughest. part for me. Some of the staff tried really really hard to offset some patients being released in 72 hours, others a whole month. It was sick. It didn't make sense. I was often scared there. But talking to the other patients kept me sane. Playing cards. Coloring. We craved activity. It was hard seeing patients pleading to be understood, to just let them to as they had kids. I saw some crazy dirty personal habits. Heard some crazy stories. I saw some people incredibly over medicated. That got to me. Once people socialized they often felt better.
As someone who works at a rehab facility.. and I can only speak for the one I work for.. it's an absolute joke. Its all about the money. They'll bend over backwards to get you there and then kick you in the ass on the way out. Paid plane ticket to get you there, a bus ticket to get you the fudge out. Get kicked out for breaking the rules? Kicked out on the street. Home is six hours away? Not our problem. It's all about filling that bed and hopefully convincing you to stay thirty days so we can get that sweet, sweet insurance money. I took this job thinking I was going to be helping people. That my job would be more then just a job. How wrong I was.
I have witnessed a lot of the same events at my last job. I felt like I was one of the very few staff that actually cared and could support our clients and if I quit, I'd be giving up on them. It took me years to quit without guilt. Thank you for speaking out and bringing awareness. But if you or a loved one needs help, please reach out. Do your research. Not every facility is like what was described in this video. I promise.
I knew a girl who went to a rehab like this. She had been struggling for years and it was a huge step for her to get help. We found out she was having affairs with staff members, being given weed, muscle relaxers and other drugs while there. She ultimately OD’d within a week of being released, leaving her daughter without a mother :(
I was a mental patient suffering ptsd episodes in the psych wing part of the hospital in the Bronx of nyc. several times and during covid. it was so horrifying during covid.. all I'll say is that it was solitary confinement for nearly 3 weeks straight except when a doctor/nurse came to give you info or meds, which was only 1-2 times per day. they're supposed to check on you every 15 mins but don't, so one time a man came into my room and started touching himself and harassing me in my own room. then when I gave my 72 hour notice (which they HAVE TO RESPECT) they told me its only 72 hours in BUSINESS hours which is illegal and made me stay longer until I got a lawyer and got tf out. i'd love to hear someone speak on their experience because its such a nightmare in those hospitals even today.
Society is about to collapse or be so broken and almost unfixable in the next 15 years because of all the problems we've neglected for far too long. It's so many reasons why some form of societal collapse is unavoidable that our chance of avoiding catastrophe is long gone
It would have been interesting to have a follow up on this- what red flags to look for in a group or organization. What to do if it is abusive ( where to report) Advocacy for places like these to be exposed and shut down
I went through a rehab program that would easily fall under the category of corrupt or compromised. I don't think it was fair for addicts looking for a safe place to deal with these environments. Hiring staff that is new to recovery is a prolific issue. There are some great insights in 12 step problems, though there is also a lot of potential for harm when vulnerable addicts are expected to put their trust in a program made up of dogma, judgement, and chaotic people. All that being said, the rehab I went to was far from the worst. No one actively pushed for relapse and there were more than a few people who wanted the best for the clients. Recovery isn't easy without professional clinical help but it IS possible. No program is going to 100% eliminate opportunities to relapse or filter out individuals who could be harmful to recovery I just wouldn't dare conclude that its a matter of determination / will power / hitting rock bottom, or whatever formula that many know-it-alls will conclude is the guaranteed recipe for success.
I don't do the 12 step meetings. I had multiple bad experiences with sponsors. One sponsor was treating me more like a relationship and cried when I "broke up" with him. He used the term broke up, I just said "I don't think this is the right fit." Another sponsor would constantly cancel on me at the last minute or just stand me up. Eventually he quit being my counselor but blamed me for canceling on him even though he was well aware if something happens at the program, I have to reschedule and he agreed to that. I went to a few different meetings but they are all very clickie, except at this half way house on haight, forget what it was called, but the people at the sunday brunch meeting were really nice. When I moved back to the east bay from SF, the meetings had more hardened people and they were standoffish in their own ways. I'm sure people see me and think I couldn't have been that out there but I was. I had a 4 gram a day heroin habit and I smoked hundreds of dollars in crack on top of that. I slept in tons of squats, the best were inside the freeway overpass directly across from the Macarthur Bart platform and the former "A Man's Place" shelter on Fremont st. I also stayed in the crawl spaces under apartment buildings in Berkeley with an old tweeker named Uncle Louie. I even went to Mexico to be a "coyote," but I got screwed over by my socalled friends and hitched a ride back to SF.
I went to rehab when I was 19 to get clean from fentanyl. My roommate was 18 and we had a cockroach infestation in our room (you can imagine the quality of the rest of the place)... we complained about 10 times and every time they said they would "send someone to check it out". We both ended up leaving early (day 22) and it wasn't until I was gathering my belongings to leave that they sat me down and threatened to put an "AMA" or "against-medical-advice" on my permanent health record. The rehab industry can be truly sickening.
Yeah, and when they give you an AMA it makes it hard or impossible to get any financial assistance after that. They gave me one, but I came in voluntarily and was suppose to only do a 3 day detox, I stayed 4 days and they gave me ama , wanted me to stay longer I guess, but it was previously discussed that I was only doing 3/days.
Patient brokering runs rampant in the mental health industry, at least in N.Y. state, where a bed in a state O.M.H. (office of mental hygiene) facility costs upwards of $2,000 PER NIGHT. This can either be charged to the patient's private insurance, or to their Medicaid/Medicare. It's like a bounty system, where the doctor who commits the patients (generally against their will), the hospital, the staff, the drug companies etc. all get a piece of the pie, a kickback. It's criminal af. .
I know all about this personally. This is why I got out of this industry. I was a counselor and worked in a private treatment center who owned their own sober living. Getting paid to relapse and ha ing referrals who were using patients for their own gain. There is more to the treatment world then a lot of people even know.
When I was a jailer, most of the people we dealt with had some kind of drug charge. The addicts consistently said they'd rather go to rehab than jail, which made sense because we jailers were jerks and there were more freedoms at rehab... But come to think of it, I can't actually speak for the sobriety of the local rehab.
And often the courts will send said people to rehab facilities if they are non violent lower to upper middle class violators after a brief jail stint. 🤷🏻♂️
I was at a Florida rehab for 3 days until I went to a different one. I got a call from a law firm that this rehab was being investigated for insurance fraud. Sadly, the rehab business has become rife with corruption. People come to these places for help but the only thing I noticed is how readily available drugs are in places like this. After a 22 year addiction and 8 rehabs I finally have almost 2 years sober and I didn't get there by attending rehab!!
I use to work for Mayo Clinic which was the number 1 hospital in the world and I can’t tell you how many times I had to deny people who were dying or in pain treatment because we prioritize money over patient care. It’s not talked about but there is discrimination when it comes to insurance, your treatment quality depends on it. Mayo is the number one hospital for the 1% and “the patient needs come first” if you can afford it. Medicine is still a business with selfish greed as its motivation. I was retaliated against because I spoke up about something I thought was wrong.
You're absolutely correct!! And going against the unethical behavior by speaking up gets you mentally bullied, ostracized, or terminated. I learned the same reality and it's disgusted me to want to walk away from healthcare all together. It's a business for them and has nothing to do with patient care. It's all about getting the most profit from insurance, medications, and hospitals. It's unethical and about greed.
@@anitaknight3915 the ethics committee does not care about ethics, they care about money. Healthcare shouldn’t be a business unless it’s cosmetic but the sad reality of things are that medicine is all about management not curing as curing as a one time service leaves you with no income. Funny thing is that the prices that are determined are not based off of any value other than pushing it to the max an insurer Will pay for, a drug can be produced for $3 but that same medication Will cost $400+, doctors Will over treat you with good insurance and under treat you if you have a non network or undesirable insurance. They’re legally obligated to treat you for emergency care but they never said they had to actually help you .
@@T3KKI1X_5.56 absolutely huni I know this myself working in healthcare. I'm a therapist and it's all about insurance, getting as many apts/beds filled, and big pharma medications. The money is in keeping people sick and giving the illusion of treating symptoms with drugs instead of healing the cause. It's disturbing and very unethical. I plan to leave healthcare. There are no ethics or focus on care because it's all about money and profiting the business. I went into it to help people heal and all it's done is destroy my mental health & emotional wellbeing. Yep they've price gauged medications which is disgusting. They don't care about employees or patients.
As someone who’s been in corrupt facilities in both Florida and California and thousand dollars a day is actually nothing back door facilities charging PPO insurance policies six 7000 a day..
I can relate to what this person told, I worked as a counselor in a corrupt rehab where it was all about money and keeping kids there longer than necessary to get government grants. I ended up complaining to the union and then having to quit because I completely burned out
Same for me as well! I had to quit when I discovered all this and the toxicity stress caused me to get very sick and burnt out. It was all about milking insurance and getting the coverage as long as possible while medicating and babysitting them not true recovery .
@@anitaknight3915 Exactly. And in my case it was actually very damaging to the kids because it was a behavioral merit program, where the faster they learned to show and practice recovery attitude, the faster they would be discharged. But the ones on grants were kept so long it was hindering their recovery by discouraging and not rewarding their efforts to change ☹ Especially when they would see kids on commercial insurance get "honorably discharged" in under 30 days not because the kid showed recovery, but because insurance stopped paying
Lol i remember when i brought this up in an outpatient rehab facility all the superiors and everyone got PISSED and the other patients got real quiet thinking
I promise mental health facilities are just as worse. it’s all about money no matter what anyone says. I worked at a high end psychiatric facility and the amount of mental abuse was insane
THIS IS SO TRUE. I just got out of working for a terribly corrupt treatment center that has 9 locations on the east coast from Florida to Massachusetts. After struggling with addiction for over 15 years and over eight years in prison I decided to pursue a job in treatment and was blessed to secure an entry position. The interview made everything sounds so promising, like everything was already set up for success. When the doors opened, There was only three behavioral health technicians to cover a 24/7 schedule. I found myself immediately working 80+ hours a week. I was just grateful to be able to help somebody and that I had stable employment after my history. A few more staff members were hired slowly as the clients came in rapidly. Are the staff that were brought on were incompetent and/or lazy to say the least. One was actively using. Another began having emotional/sexual relations with 2 separate male clients. The operations Director that hired me left during this period to go open up his own facility and as I reported these things to my superior, who is 1000 miles south in Florida, I was brushed off and disregarded. I continue to work hard seeing that there was opportunity for advancement and I thought that I could make a difference if I came into a leadership position. A new Director was brought in and I was made operations supervisor. At first glance, I liked my new boss. We had some things in common and he knew all the right things to say to make it sound like knew what he was doing. Over the next four months he showed his true colors and did absolutely no work call mom pawning everything off to me and then taking credit for it. A client arrived As a transfer from One of our Florida facilities and I saw the reaction on my bosses face when she walked through the door. She immediately stated that she would not stay because my boss had drugged and raped her three years ago. Mind you he had eight years of sobriety. With this information myself as two other employees called our superior and relayed everything that was going on and two weeks later he was terminated. At this point I was promoted to Director of operations and even though there was so much dysfunction and chaos on both the clinical and operations side I wanted to learn and I wanted to be the best I could possibly be at my position for the patients. With my new responsibility I started to have more involvement in the clinical and insurance side of the business and I quickly found out that as the person being interviewed here says it’s profit over people. So many different times I would hear the blatant lies to try and secure someone to our facility, we have a pool, a gym on property, hotel quality living space, adventure therapy. I was written up and suspended because A client Wanted to leave and go to a sober living but wasn’t due to complete for another three weeks and I recommended a few places to her and gave her phone numbers for them. They told me that if a client wants to leave I am not allowed to assist them with any resources that they have to deal with the consequences of a bad decision. A month before I left this facility we had a budget of $2000 a week where it had to cover gas for two 15 passenger vans, Money for cigarettes vapes and personal items that clients are able to purchase through their families putting money into an account(which goes directly to corporate not to the account which their loved ones are at), and items for the house such as food toilet paper paper towels and cleaning supplies. They cut it down to $500 a week. When I noticed I called my superior and she stated that it should be more than enough. Clearly not the case, I explain to her that it would not even get enough gas to get the vans back-and-forth from the houses to Clinical, and I was told that I needed call to not worry about it and mind my own business. There were horrible HIPPA violations, sharing private client information with other clients. Falsified group notes and clinician notes so that insurance companies would pay for more time for clients with good policies. They would have staff members give clients twice the amount of urine analysis tests They are supposed to get per week because they could bill $150 for each of them. My last Week working there I was in a meeting with call the national Director of operations and the executive Director of clinical services and I was voicing a lot of issues with the Unethical treatment taking place and the lack of patient care from higher up and they told me it’s not my job to worry about that, it’s my job to keep clients in the door. I did not agree with that and spoke my mind and was fired for it. Pennsylvania is a fire at will state so I had no legs to stand on. I was hurt because I had words so hard to get to where I was at cause and with my history I thought that I would never have another opportunity cost to make great money doing what I wanted to do. Cause I had sacrificed my own personal relationship, my relationship with my child, and my own sanity for this company. Needless to say I moved on and getting fired from there was the best thing that ever happened to me. I feel for the clients who are there because I know the treatment they are receiving and I know that they are just a policy number and not a human dying to get better. There are so many great rehabs out there, I finally got sober at one and was at many good ones before that. I wish that there was more investigation as to what’s going on behind closed doors in a lot of these places but I doubt there will be. Thank you so much to the man who spoke out about this because it sounded exactly like my own experience and more people need to hear this.
As someone who has worked in treatment before, unfortunately this happens too often. There are good facilities but doing your research is important. We need more quality facilities that people can afford.
Omg!! This is so eye opening, even the comments!! I left the medical field because that was corrupted. I’m in school for a new career and wanted to help with substance abuse… my mind is blown… now. Is there no safe space
People with addiction issues and ESPECIALLY people who don't have a documented say 5+ years of providing clean tests should NEVER be allowed near people trying to get clean. I've suffered with a heroin addiction for nearly 16yrs, with about 3 weeks clean in that whole time which was due to benzos and 110ml of methadone. I got clean and then a few weeks later was moved into a 'supported living' facility. Within 2 days of moving in I was approached and back on heroin with the supply literally less than 20secs walk from my door to theirs. Since then I have not been able to get a single day clean and that's around 8yrs ago now. Even though I was only a few weeks clean, I had deleted my only source and due to housing situation had moved from the area too and started a methadone programme with a benzo script to help me deal with the anxiety I was using the H to help with. Moving into a 'sober living facility' in which I thought I would be safe and be able to continue being clean with all the support offered by 24hr staff on duty and a personal case worker. But when you are then put in a situation in which the drug of choice is literally not just in the area but in the SAME building as you are living and multiple different sources too it's the worst thing you can possibly do. I don't associate with anyone who is an addict and throughout all my usage have been able to live pretty normal life including no interactions with the police and never committing a crime. I have now had the same contact for the last 8yrs who drops off to me every single morning and I then clear my tab at the end of the month. I want nothing more than to be able to get clean and also be able to fully enjoy my life by saving nearly £2000 a month (£1800 to be exact on a 30 day month). I haven't been able to travel anywhere due to needing a substance in order to just feel normal and that sucks. I don't get high anymore.. I can smoke as much as I want and never feel high or 'nod off'. I need the amount I use in order to make me just feel how I did before I ever touched it. Such a shitty situation to be in 😏
Mate if you want to get clean you can do it, if you really do. If you want to keep getting high do that instead but don't beat yourself up over it. Your life, your choice. You have to own it whatever way you do it. Best of luck tho
I be just been through a rehab like this,I was so grateful to finally get help,but ended up having seizures with medical help (told I was a nightmare and demanding when I asked for help),bullied by the staff allmost got attacked by other patients and was threatened,got stolen off I could go on. Scary when you're desperate for help these places take advantage. Huge thank you to vice for bringing this topic to the surface,as I was told in there who's going to believe a ex alcholic over a staff member?
Anyone that could defraud an organization that faces such a slippery climb to begin with is definitely a special kind of evil..not to be all judgey but DAMN...
I’ve been to 13 long term rehabs plus countless other kinds of programs. This describes every rehab I went to. This is soooo accurate and there is sooo much more I can say about what goes on it gets even worse. Rehab messed me up as much as the street did. People ask why I went to so many different ones and why it took so many times to get good for good? It’s very simple. Toxic Rehabs.
I've worked in rehab at three different places, I've never seen the sex and drugs, but the 'insurance motivated admission/discharge' is very present. insurance basically puts rehab facilities in a box, they have to do xyz, they don't get paid for abc, only xyz, so that's what they all do, not much more. the private place looks nicer but cuts corners on doctors/social work hours(so changing meds or finding safe discharge is on the backburner), the state place looked crappy and had bland food but did a better job engaging with the doctors and providing safer discharge locations. they both charged about $1k a day in the end insurance ties hands of facilities
Having been dealing with mental health and drug addiction issues for 25 years, I can strongly attest at a lot of places are like this profit over help. It's disgusting!
We have the same problem in Sweden. Some people get really rich on starting private treatment homes for youth criminals, mentally ill people or drug addicts. It’s state funded too and not private insurance in this country so it’s a lot of tax payer money that goes into treatment centers that even abuses patients and just start these centers to make as much money as possible not caring about patients/clients. One of my friends was horribly abused and that would not happen this often if the government cared about people with troubled lives (I’m one of these people myself). We are seen as second class citizens so they just don’t care to regulate and control our treatment. It’s good that you made this video.
My patients shared with me very traumatic stories which didn't help them at all. It's all about insurance and medication $ with these places not about truly learning therapeutic skills to heal trauma.
@@anitaknight3915 its really fucking unfortunate, immoral, and disgusting. I felt horrible for both the nursing staff that the higher ups mistreated horribly and the patients that weren't able to get any of the help and then end up on the street because the social workers are either incompetent or overbooked.
I was sent to a rehab by my parents, when I was 19. technically i was there voluntarily, but the alternative was homelessness. I was literally only using weed (not even daily by that point, only became dependent on it after I got out) and occasionally shrooms) They should have told my family that I didn't belong there with a bunch of heroin and meth addicts, but as most of their inpatients were fresh out of jail/prison on drug diversion programs, which brought in less money than private pay clients, they happily accepted me. They then proceeded to take me off of my adderall, which is ironic because unmedicated ADHD people are far more likely to develop substance abuse issues. they knew it was dr. prescribed but because the cheap testing kits they used could not distinguish between adderall and meth, I had to go off of them. also got scare tactics about how taking adderall (at prescribed doses, not abused) was the same as using street meth in recreational doses. since i saw how burnt out the meth heads in the clinic were, I internalized that and never complied with my medication after that. looking back its like I was brainwashed, and going off of my adhd medication made my life so much more difficult. if drug treatment was medically informed and not based on the weird freakish 12 step cult, they would never have take me off, and could have just ordered bloodwork to ensure that the levels of amphetamine in my system were appropriate and that I wasn't taking anything else. but that would have been more expensive and they value profits over patients.
eh, i think that having staff at rehabs who are in recovery is generally a good thing, the problem with a lot of these shadier rehabs is not that they're staffed by former addicts, it's more that a lot of the former addicts they hire don't have a lot of clean time, and haven't done any training on things like social work or psychiatry
@@astridarideout1864 if they have experience overcoming an addiction and relevant training then sure, but someone whose never had an addiction but has trained in psychology or a related discipline is absolutely better equipped than someone who has overcome an addiction, but has no relevant training. i don't care if they have 50 years sober, they shouldn't be providing any sort of therapy if they have no training to do so.
I’m studying to become a drug and alcohol counselor. I’ve also been sober for years. This video sickened me, and will definitely be on the side of anyone truly seeking treatment. Much love ❤️👌🏻
I worked at a drug and alcohol rehab and I promise they are NOT all like this! While there is a corporate aspect many of the staff are incredibly helpful and understanding. Please just research the facilities and don’t let this stop you from getting help. 🙏🦋💕
In the 80's I was railroaded (parents, pastor, cops, judge and city council woman all in court) illegally (19 yrs old, unopened six pack in trunk of car I didn't own, no alcohol in system, no traffic violation) into Anchor Rehabilitation Center. The only way to get out from the court ordered "treatment" was to agree to enter their halfway house condo system "voluntarily", which I did, after three months locked in, long enough to be a "free" man. There was one other guy in similar circumstance, and we played adversaries in group to bide our time and satisfy they admin of our sincerity until we could be discharged. Brilliant young man, wish y'all could have seen it! Then I split in the middle of the night from halfway, so as to avoid a three day barraging of counselors and family trying to coerce and intimidate me into staying. I didn't contact my family for nearly three years out of fear and rage. They have some influence, and are very resourceful. Some years later, the "Dr." in charge during my stay was caught using, like I had said he was. This is a man who told my parents a complete fabrication that I was having an homosexual relationship with my best friend from high school, whose sister I was in fact romantically involved with. There were other lies, too, like that I was a devil worshiper, shamelessly utilizing the "Satanic Panic" that swept through the PMRC types in that era, anything to scare the money out of them. Be careful, parents of struggling youth, not to cause more harm trying to help.Don't be led, or fooled by titles. Ànyone can print business cards saying anything. My stay was extended due to great insurance and family monies, the poor kid who had little of these was "cured" almost immediately, like his abusing had just been a misunderstanding now cleared up. Awful convenient. Just a side fact, the percentage of people who manage to "spontaneously remit", or sober up and stay sober on their own, is the same as the percentage of people who succeed in doing so through Anonymous and rehabilitation efforts, although these institutions seem to imply they are the only way to achieve this goal. While some clearly do well in such support groups, that wasn't for me, and I now have ten years and counting.
I gotta say...I'm THANKFUL that I don't suffer from drug addiction or any substance addiction for that matter.🙁 I mean, how many people lost their lives because they went into a rehab center that cared more about profits than human health? It's a living nightmare, especially since the United States loses a lot of people to substance abuse each year.😔
There’s so much corruption in the drug recovery industry. I hate it. There’s already SO much stigma with addiction and now we have assholes trying to profit off of us. Pure greed.
Iv been an addict since I was a child, I think it stemmed from having severe psoriasis from the age of seven and really missing a lot of school due to hospital visits, also wearing gloves at all times to cover my hands as they were very very affected, so always felt very different as a child growing up, finding drugs for me was like other kids finding sports or other socially accepted hobbies. First it was weed, the ease and comfort that came with it was something I had never found in anything else… this was the at the age of 13 onwards, it escalated through the years, each year would bring more drugs to my attention and I would experiment to my life’s content. I’m 27 now, also sober and still to this day I am fighting with myself because If I give in to my demons I will be miserable also everyone around me will suffer, but at the same time being sober for me is miserable but everyone around me who cares apreciates it and benefits massively from my sobriety. I am a father of an amazing little man, a partner to a great and supporting woman, I have a trade behind me and a massive passion for music. Getting sober was easy, staying sober is the challenge. Anyone suffering from addiction, don’t seek rehabs, seek yourself, look inside at everything your running away from and reach out to family/friends. Create boundaries for yourself and include others who care to keep you on your toes at all times. There is no cure for addiction, but there is hope for anyone who wants a better life free from drink or drugs. Good luck 🤞🏼 ❤️
I'm an addict turned drug therapist, I speak to younger kids at schools and also have worked in a couple rehab facilities. You'd be surprised what people sneak in, by any means too. I had one young woman (she was 16 y'all) who was already addicted to herøin, it was so fking sad. She still writes me, so at least I know she's alive. 😢💔
Those are precisely the people who are running those places. You get a new recovering addict/alcoholic. They decide they want to become a counselor. I've seen it hundreds of times. They make it through the brief period of schooling to get a degree. And away they go. With under a year of recovery, going in and "helping" those in need. Every time I hear this at a meeting. I cringe, and ask them.later, if that is what they want? Answer is always the same. And we wonder why the drug epidemic is so bad. The lunatics are running the asylum. Thats why
@@lordeverybody872 Man, that is one of the best comments I have read in a long time. I had similar thoughts, but was wise enough not to jump on it and ruin myself and someone else.
This is so scary. Even when people are trying to get help they can still be set back if not placed in the right center. Everything is about money, and its sad that even places like this can be corrupt ☹️
Blame Rome
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THE GREAT AWAKENING❤️
Putting an addict in a group of addicts to be led by other addicts is generally a bad idea. There is no such thing as a former addict, so if your counselors are former patients, remember they are addicts as well. Not saying you can’t recover from addiction, just that a “recovered addict” is still an addict.
This is what terrifies me. The things I have heard about rehab clinics and inpatient. The schematics for the layout must also not be conducive to healthy phenomena. If it's correctional in layout it is only going to perpetuate an attitude of control and destroy.
Gets way worse Hospitals are corrupt in a realllly baddddd wayyy and police goes further
I’m a psychiatrist working at a hospital in Florida. I cannot thank this person enough for coming forward. In south Florida rehab centers are highly corrupt and take advantage of np vulnerable people frequently. The “south Florida shuffle” is a term used in common parlance among the mental health community down here.
Its real and its scary!
AAC?
My son died while under the care of a rehab facility in Tampa Florida due to lazy employees not doing their jobs
You psychiatrist and doctors are just as worse
The sad thing is that this has been going on for over a decade now in Florida.
When I was in my early twenties, I was involuntarily put into a corrupted rehab. I agree that I needed help but it was a terrible, traumatic experience from the beginning (when I was literally kidnapped from my place while asleep). My parents wanted to help me but they didn’t know what they signed me up for.
I witnessed a suicide, several attempts of suicide, total malnutrition, almost lethal intoxications with different cleaning supplies.
Several people jumped from the windows to run away. Some of our consultants slept with young women (patients) or asked them to do a massage for them.
I also experienced medical neglect which lead to surgery for me and an elderly person. And a cherry on top of everything was that our lead security person (who was also a former patient) was smuggling methadone and weed inside and he paid for it from the money our parents paid for our food.
The thing is that they are targeting families of addicts who are sad and exhausted because of the sickness of their loved ones and would do and listen to everything those rehabs tell them.
I escaped this place after 9 months (a lot of people were there for much longer with some exemptions: like when their families couldn’t pay anymore), including two teenage girls who definitely learned more about drugs while being inside. I tried to be a picture-perfect patient to have a chance to finally leave that rehab.
When I was very sick they couldn’t drive me to an ET or call an ambulance because they were operating illegally and my parents came to help me. Only after some time I very carefully told them some things I experienced and that I wanted to be free. I was very afraid because I was one of the most privileged patients because of my behaviour and I had the luxury to listen to short calls our “management” was making to some parents, spouses etc. Basically, they were saying them to not believe anything their relatives could possibly tell them because they are addicts. Which is kinda true, but they were hiding their own shenanigans with it.
In PA?
@@absurd_patience No. Just wanted to share my experience because it’s not very often when people speak about rehabs.
That is so crazy, gives me chills thinking about how you witnessed all that and feel sane, hope u better I hope
That’s so horrible I’m so sorry you had to go through all of this I hope ur ok
Jesus,this reminds me of those behavioural schools like elan,its sickening how abuse is rampant in institutions particularly designed to help people
I'm a mental health therapist in Florida. Thank you for sharing this video. What was said, is terrifying and true!
I’m at lol 😂
Thank you Vice for doing these interviews and opening our eyes. Deep down one has a feeling of things that are off and one can’t always go by hunches. So these interviews should give insight into implementing more strict regulations and hiring more competent and caring people.
They hire past users instead of people who've had the same challenges but learned not to use drugs to overcome.
@@maryshaffer8474 I (as a former drug user) can see the prob with that myself... I know we probably know more than a person who has never used BUT the temptation is always there...recipe for disaster
They also steal male sperm
@@dawnhopkins3085 to be fair, as an addict it's hard to find the connection with a non addict in those situations. Even just an alcoholic is hard to connect with as a hard drug user. Not saying that it's right just that it's real
@@maryshaffer8474 yeah they have too. I have a therapist try to tell me her addiction to control was the same as mine to heroin... No it wasn't darling
As someone who's worked in Addiction Rehab for 9 years, this is definitely not uncommon. The Out Patient facility I worked at for years back in Ohio had patients selling and using in the parking lots. There were a few coworkers that had affairs and relationships with patients. When I was first hired I learned very quickly, the best place to find drugs is at a rehab clinic. I got into this field to help people, because my best friend from high school overdosed and died, and to see this, is really sad, because it does happen. Now I work for a good inpatient facility in another state, and love my job. It is definitely toxic and stressful, but it comes with the territory. Huge congrats to everyone that's gotten clean and sober. I've met some of the nicest people that were addicts. All they need is that chance.
Which one was it? Neil Kennedy?
Thank you for serving.
Thanks for this information. I am going to south Africa in kapetown. Do you know if this is a corrupt rehab centre?
True that I work for one a year and a half my clients weren’t even the problem it was the staff was the problem it caused me so much stress
One more thing to love about Ohio...
It’s sad in the midst of someone’s struggles people will prey on someone in their weakest moment.
Dude, the mentors are all reformed addicts. You surprised a large portion relapse? Also, everyone there knows plenty of dealers.
The rest is just civil allegations involved in trying to get the bills paid and degenerates destroying their marriages.
That's what people do. Welcome to life!
Its been like this for years since the 70s.
@@videorocketzmillar007milla5 isn't that when rehab centers were invented?
It's called capitalism
Unfortunately I experienced a similar thing in the psychiatric hospital. I was forced to stay longer because they wanted to “ensure I was fine to leave” when I was clearly better (but I had good health insurance), while others on medi-cal showing signs they need help and asked to stay longer were rushed out. It’s so sad how these places are a business and are not there helping the vulnerable like they are supposed to
The 'system' preys upon the weak. Surprised?
Happens all the time
It's an evil world because it belongs to satan. The LOVE of money is the root of ALL evil!. The CIA is responsible for the drug problems in this world. They want everybody to be an addict. They can handle (manage) the vulnerable weak helpless people much easier. So sad. We all need Jesus in our lives. We need to know His word and follow him. We have to live IN this evil world but we need to NOT be a Part of it. We need to stay away from worldly things. Pray, believe, live according to HIM. We can do all things through HIM.
exactly, i literally told them if i leave i would hurt myself and they were like, “that’s too bad, call 911. now get out” all bc of my insurance
I’m a recovering drug addict with 3 years clean. I used drugs for 8 years and went to multiple rehabs for help in Florida and can confirm everything this girl is saying is true.
9yrs under my belt in FL n it's so true I'm with u on that one
Congratulations on being clean 3 years and for the other person in cometing on there Congratulations on being clean 3 years and for the other person in cometing on their sobriety as well That's a huge accomplishment God bless you made you stay sober for the rest of your life and have good lives
Congrats on all of y'all. I was wondering- I heard kratom tea is good for addiction. Did anybody you hear about that? What's thoughts on kratom?
Why do you think the speaker is female!?
So they ran a train on u
I was the last patient at a rehab that was closing amid a series of sexual abuses that affected me and several other patients. It is surreal how much in common my rehab had with this one. Luckily the culprit was exposed and I and a few others wearable to stay sober through the mess. It’s really easy to say “just go get help” to a struggling addict but what most people don’t understand is what it’s like to hand your life over to others as forfeit, and trust that they’re not going to exploit you when you’re at your most vulnerable.
I was lol 😂
What was the name?
CRLA ? god I lived in the area i remember all that mess
No one believed me when I told them that all the rehabs I went to where corrupt. The exact story is what I went they many many times … he couldn’t be more accurate.. and on top of this… there’s way worse stories ..
My room mate got stuck in the rehab system and left rehab. That day she left… she ended up relapsing from the owner who supplied her with drugs so she would come back but she overdosed and they fed her body to the crocodiles. The police found her body bc the crocodiles didn’t go high enough up into the Everglades where they tried to “hide” her body. They got busted thankfully but that’s just one thing that happened there. I’ve had friends found dead in trash and through out the city. Don’t go to rehabs in Florida. !
My cousin swore the rehab they sent her to in Florida seemed more like a recruit for prostitution . She said something about feeding a woman’s body to crocs. We thought she had brain damage from meth. Now I feel bad for disrespecting her.
Florida rehabs suck unless ur paying cash at a high end one starting at 10k it's disgusting n sad
This is so terrible 😢. Really sorry you went through that❤️
That's fucking horrible!!!omg when you try yo go get help and end up deaf wtf💙🙏🤦😳
Wtf? Wow..these are literal murderers, not just corrupt rehabs. What's wrong with people? I can't believe I read this
I'm an EMT and I'm in and out of similar facilities, rehabs, nursing homes, etc. And everything in this video is disturbingly common.
I’m an lol 😂
Vice needs to put more of these videos out. The impact these whistle blowers make is tremendous. They stay in your head and make you aware.
You forgot the part where Michael Learmouth begs for change from the 99.9%! Sorry, maybe after my next paycheck, since I'm ROLLING in it. 🤑 (sarcasm).
I was in and out of these type of rehabs in south Florida from 2014-2019. It was hell. You were just a number, and that number was the number on your insurance card. I had really good insurance, thankfully from my father working a good job. These places would offer me drugs and or cash to stay longer than I was supposed to. And when I would eventually leave, they would call or text me every week seeing if I needed to come back so they could profit off of me. A lot of my friends ended up dying due to places like this.
They should have been reported to the DEA and other authorities. The gov't are the most crooked people in the world and they probably wouldn't have done anything.
Absolutely true. 💯 I worked at one and had to leave once I realized what it was about was too sickening and unethical. It's all about $ milking insurance as long as possible medicating and babysitting patients til insurance stops paying. I'm too caring and empathetic that it caused me to become ill so I quit. It disgusted me to profit off of disease of addiction where people would be treated like a number. I can tell you employees are treated horribly and unsupported too.
Same things go on In psychiatric hospitals too. I worked on a medium secure unit for 3 years. And the amount of abuse and lack of empathy I witnessed will forever weigh heavy on my heart. I did the best I could, became so depressed it manifested into my whole body being covered in rashes to not being able to walk for a week. The mental strain and heavy ness I carried for those years became unbearable that I forced myself to leave because I held onto to staying for so long, holding onto the hope that something would change and it never did.
This! I was in and out CAMHS units my whole teenage years and the things I saw and experienced, from staff made me 100x worse than ever was before. They have even admitted as much, hence why been kicked out of every service as no one wants the liability
I’m so glad you took care of that little girl inside you and acted with all your courage. You sound like a brave person. Thank you for helping to make outsiders aware. I too went thru something that when I tell it, isn’t believed. I’m lucky that my sister came with me to witness it for herself. We faced off with the Director directly. His staff was terrified of him. They seemed brainwashed if that makes any sense. It’s hard for two people to move the needle, but if WE ALL speak up, it makes a difference. Thank you, Mark. For providing the platform here at SWU. Might I add- that hospital has since closed. But not before I campaigned to call anyone and everyone in State government that would listen.
I worked at Patton State Hospital under Canteen, and it was nuts in there
It's so corrupted, i would get 100 bucks for a bag of tobacco buglars lol
Nurse's would bring certain patients from outside
Good life experience, i must say
U did your best bless your heart. There is true evil in this world. Glad u left. Stay safe and well.
@@BUKWulfSh0t Canteen??? U mean the large Vending machine Co.?
Ask anyone who's been to rehab. Ask them how was it and did it help. You'd be extremely surprised the stories these people tell. This person is a worker. Imagine the patients stories
I went to a rehab clinic in the Netherlands and had a really positive experience so have most people I know that went to rehab over here.
@@maxpoh Yes as you mentioned in the Netherlands. No one is saying all rehabs is bad. This space is to make more aware of the corrupt harmful ones.
While I’m not surprised because everything is about money. I surely didn’t know it was this type of corruption going on.
It depends on the rehab and staff, unfortunately that is true for many many people. But there are also a lot of incredibly good rehabs that care about you deeply and give you the tools you really need to get well and stay that way. I’ve been to inpatient rehab 4 times and outpatient 3 times. Addiction has been my darkest perpetual struggle. But the final rehab I went to was fucking extraordinary. It forever changed my outlook on the treatment world being corrupted in someway as a whole
I went to a local rehab for a week and was done. That place made me never want to drink again! I felt awful for the people who’d been there, in and out, so many times. Also what they advertise is NOT what you get. Their ad was like “this is heaven” - and it was definitely hell. Anyway, it’s been 1 year and 3 months cold turkey & the best decision I ever made.
@@maxpoh There are good and bad rehabs. People who have a bad rehab experience usually didn't do much research into the treatment center they attended
I used to work for a corrupt rehab clinic and my heart dropped when I saw this video. I’m sure things like this happen at a lot of rehab centers because I witnessed the same things in this video. I have so many stories…
If u just to work there why didn’t u reported or say somenthing , u was one of them
Why do they mean 1,000 a day rehab??
No cap!!!
Plz do share one, we'd love to read.
@@djscarecrows7702 that’s how much it is to be there. $1000 a day and insurance covered their stay
I was brokered for 6 months, saw staff selling heroin to patients in detox, seen staff beat patients up, been to a place where two directors of the program got multiple patients pregnant.
So many set backs but I’m doing good now
This is so true as someone who has been through rehab and my family has all been through rehab I can confirm this whole video in the one statement “profit over people”.
Also the entire American health care system (not necessarily the people working in it) and capitalism in general. Fun!
Yes but the entire healthcare system is profit over patient care. There's no care for patients or employees.
Love these segments that expose this crap. So sad
I am so glad to see more people talking about this! From cartels to the legal system to the recovery/pharmaceutical industry, addiction is big business.
Yes drugs, Healthcare, and prisons are all big business and corrupt.
Someone who went to multiple rehabs I can tell you the biggest problem with facilities is the mixing of court mandated patients with voluntary patients in programs
You haven’t been to Cali or Florida…. Private insurance is the only way you get in
@@brian22-93 I’m in California and drive past a free state ran facility everyday…
I'm from Cincinnati I've never once heard of anyone getting to go to rehab vs jail, even for first offenses like possession, pretty much every drug is a felony except for weed here, under a certain amount its just a ticket.. Even with no prior record and your just dependant on opiates. Straight to jail, With no help, no classes meetings nothing. People die in jail from withdraws and issues that come along with it, malnutrition dehydration, seizures, hypertension of the heart, suicide because withdraws so bad, you name it.
@@ayten3617 it’s called drug court and endless videos about it on here.
@@ayten3617 I've definitely seen it. MN Teen Challenge was one I know of.
Thank you Vice for bringing this to light, and thank you to the person that decided to step up
You’re welcome ☺️ lol 😂
@@thedecafe1 you got issues I’m tracing your account and IP ima find out who you are cause your sketchy.
@@thedecafe1 found it
Thank you Vice for doing this and opening our eyes to the truth
Im a fent addict and I’ve been recovering and getting clean. I knew when I first wanted to quit that I wouldn’t ever use rehab or a facility.
I went to my personal doctor instead and I’m handling it with the help of friends and family. Im lucky to have them tho, not everyone gets that benefit
Good luck on your journey. I will say I got clean on my own in 2018 then relapsed in 2019 and went into a treatment center. It was the best thing I did for me, but as with everything your mileage may vary. Stay strong friend.
I'm on fetty also, about 8-10 years now. I want to get off it but last time I tried I didn't sleep for 17 days started feeling crazy on top of being sick and gave up. I was still just as dope sick on the 18th day as I was on the 5th.. What can a doctor do for someone or myself. I have insurance. I wish they'd just ween us off of it with pharmaceutical grade opiates, so its controlled taper.
Also im 4 weeks completely free of opiates now. I started treatment in December, relapsed a couple times a week for awhile, then just recently stopped relapsing.
@@ayten3617 there are absolutely treatment centers that will wean you off opiates using pharmaceuticals (primarily being methadone and subs). It made the taper much much easier than cold turkey. I was also placed on a dose of phenobarbital as I was also hooked on benzos and cold turkey can be particularly dangerous.
@@ayten3617 I also recommend saying you were on a slightly higher dose then you were when checking into these programs because I found it make them taper even easier. The pheno helped keep me leveled out. Good luck on your journey. It’s never easy and relapses happen but if you don’t try you’ll end up dead like most of us.
I believe it. When ever a group of people are together there’s corruption, it’s a shame. Thanks Vice 💯
What a stupid comment. "Whenever a group of people are together"? Nah. When evil people get together there is corruption. I've been in many many groups where there is goodness and truth and no lies all around.
This makes me so angry as someone whos gotten sober. Ppl need to be placed in good facilities and rehab is NOT someones place to take advantage of vulnerable addicts all for the sake of money. I hope all the corrupt places get shut down bc its already hard to get sober, adding all this to the mix is making it even worse. My ex died from an overdose despite his dad tryna get him help bc the system failed him. He didnt have a lotta money so he wasnt prioritized and was left to die. I feel so lucky that i was able to get the monthly vivitrol shot instead of having to deal w places like this. The shot is super expensive and i wish it could be made more affordable so more ppl could benefit from it. That shot saved my life.
I had an excellent counselor named Roland, who saved my life. The kindness I received from him as well as the tough love he gave me when I messed up added to the excellent group caseload sessions and 1 on 1 time, are what helped me learn to deal with my problems head on. I struggled for years after program but not with drugs. I was also in Victory Outreach for 3 days, that was a crazy place. Gave me 3 days to kick heroin before I had to "build the church." I never made it but leaving was more like escaping since the guy running the house chased me down.
As someone who works in this industry this is a great depiction of stuff that is all too common in these facilities
Thank you for this! The rehab industry needs to get exposed, so many places are run on a profit over people. I’ve witnessed first hand how evil some of these places are- I’ve visited three different rehabs in Europe and two of them were driven with only profit in mind- with minimal to no care whatsoever for the patients health and recovery. One of the places was similar to being in prison. It’s a very lucrative field for the cynical. Thank god not all of these places are the same.
It was 14 years ago that I was sent to a Drug/Alcohol rehab in Malibu to work, by the Nurse Registry I worked for. This was in Malibu, a huge center for these businesses. I was disgusted with what I saw, and my mouth got me a quick exit after two weeks. My manager at the Registry said I needed to be more tactful, but was in agreement with me. It seemed every person I spoke to about how dysfunctional it was, said they already knew that. It is no secret these facilities are scams, and poorly run. I tried looking for a State agency to call and make a report, but it was futile. The place I was at, has since gone out of business. If you run an expose, most people will say they already know. In a world where it is already busy, chaotic and overwhelming, most people are to busy trying to keep their sanity, to care about places like these.
Thank you Vice for this story as it takes the courage of investigative journalism to expose this type of fraud. I knew a rehab facility owner in LA who made a fortune off bills to insurance companies. A patient was just a means to insurance money, not for care or treatment.
Smrs?
His name is probably tom
That's what I learned working in that type of environment that it wasn't at all about care rather insurance $. I had to leave.
That's real talk because I did a year and alcohol and Drug rehab and the director told me how Shady this business is people will prioritize money over people's addiction instead of helping them
I worked the night shift for a rehab in Northern California for 8 years. Some of this sounds familiar, and some not so much. It did seem like management was pushing and prioritizing paying clients to get more money. I did have both a manager and coworker leave the program due to sexual relationships with clients. I had coworkers relapse. I had clients that died too young.
But, I did also see clients work though the therapy and achieved a lifestyle that they where addiction free and happy with.
I also worked in a NorCal rehab in Grass Valley, CA called granite wellness center that was terrible, after going thru two deaths from overdoses I couldn’t take it anymore. It was just completely corrupt. We had an employee sleeping with a client inside his room in the actual residential facility. It’s so sad
Treatment is all a model based around profit of helping addicts. Some are more ethical than others. Some are this one like sovergn health. That’s I personally know distributed money and cash to people human trafficking people for insurance money.
about the sexual relationships, there was an incident were a serial rapist infiltrated the network and flatout raped the relatives of both the coworkers and clients then the coworker and the clients
the individual was bisexual and said to have raped over 50 people
i read it on an article in 2006
all the victims have committed suicide
it is not know where he is now and is said to be on the loose
It wasn't Walden House, was it? I went through walden house, my counselor there was a very genuine person but some of the other staff were manipulative. Another counselor attempted to get me to fetch a snack for her out of the commissary closet, she called me on the intercom for no other reason than she wanted a snack. I told her no and I slip canned her. She apologized to me the next day. Those treats were for the residents, not staff. She was shocked that I didn't simp for her. I ran into the weekend counselor down in the TL nodding off so bad that she didn't even know i was there. She was extremely rude to me and didn't think I belonged there because "I was a little white boy" and to "go home." I guess that was in a way a compliment. Im pretty sure she is back on the street and I own my own house. We both went to the same rehab but somehow I have stayed away from the drug life.
Was it Sov?
I voluntarily entered myself in. I was at one for 2 weeks and I got better. When I tried saying I'm fine and wanted to leave, they said "oh no, you're worse than ever" and they wanted to keep me for another month. But after I told them my insurance only covers 2 weeks... I was released that day .
We need to make mental health a priority. Most addicts are self treating some trauma they've experienced.
Yes. Dual diagnosis.
This really opened my eyes why people don’t even want to get help when they have a problem. My heart goes out to those suffering from addiction and I pray for change.
As someone who works in a similar field/setting, this is so so so scary to hear. Thank you to this person for sharing their experience
I was in one of these. No one Believed me. I relapsed alot after the fact and almost died. but im sober now, and trying to come to terms with my own experience. And just act like its cool now.
Thank you for coming out to tell your truth. You give me hope in a desensitized world that some people care.
I’ve been thru this exact same experience going from over 30 rehabs. They all were crooked no matter how nice they might have seemed. They flew me out there paying for the plane ticket and after graduating they would actually give drugs to u to relapse so u go back to their facility. Then when u want to leave they won’t help buy a plane ticket back home so most people end up homeless on the streets. And on top of that they give anyone that refers a client to their rehab 2 grand or more if they stay at least 15 days … so there are vultures everywhere looking for people to get into rehab. It was fucked up. We called it the South Florida shuffle.
This needs to be illegal. It's sick what's happening in America, you would never see this happen in the UK, because of the NHS we get treated fairly, it's not about money
Agreed! There catching on I know a few rehabs I went to got caught so at least it’s getting somewhere
This probably happens in the UK,we do have private rehabs here,a lot of them as the NHS doesn't pay for rehabs very much
@@aurora6920 it’s definitely illegal but is kept under wraps by the right people as long as possible. Just disgusting. Like if you’re gonna deal drugs why go to treatment centers or meetings??? Just pure selfishness, even more than you’re regular exploitative dealer. I’ve lost several friends in recovery this way. I’m grateful I’m alive today and sober
I was an addict for over 20 years. Heroin took over my life time and time again. I have been in a treatment of some sort an easy 35 times. Whether they were detox centers, rehabs, sober living, inmate drug program, or sober companion. Clean I had a chance to work at a few places myself, these places had these grey area job positions for clients that finish the program - sometimes hiring clients after 30 days of clean time. Everything this guy is saying is 100 percent true.
I knowingly have been to some shady places, either because I just wanted help so badly that I didn't care where I was going. Many places have these God complex people working for them, that suffered addiction at one point themselves. These people go on insane power trips and are very unprofessional.
This report literally only scratched the surface to the shady dealings of the rehab business. I could write books on this.
Wow I was shocked to hear the informer say it was in California and not South Florida 😳 I was in a facility in West Palm Beach back in 2018 where I was able to purchase Methadone and Suboxone while in “treatment” as a 400 dollar a day Heroin addict…def a scary business
Haven’t been there, but 100% expected the same from media coverage.
@@firstmkb this was around the time that James Kigar was making millions off of patient insurance while using paid workers to entice addicts to “relapse” and continue to return to “rehab” luckily I met someone who truly had my best interests at hand and I have been sober since 2019…no less than 13 decent people I met while in “treatment” overdosed I am one of the lucky ones
I don't get what u mean
@@Yuck300 what don’t u get
U bought methadone n Suboxone while in treatment to what get high ? Wym u bought it n u said u was a 400$ addict while in treatment it just doesn't make sense
I'm a Case Manager at one of the best rehabs in Australia. Thank God there is a network of therapeutic communities here who take the work very seriously and professionally. I often tell clients to never take for granted the chance to go somewhere effective to get well, unlike the US where they'd have to pay exuberant amounts of money just to get shuffled between these corrupt places.
If y'all think this is bad, wait till you hear about CAMHS (Child and Adolescent Mental Health Services) units. Literally had staff let other patients beat me up for being Trans. Major neglect and abuse of rights. Discharging patients the day after tried to kill themselves on the unit. Lots of self harm and drug use, infront of staff even. Giving those with eating disorders and dietary requirements the wrong food on purpose. Constantly having folk abscond scared due to incompetence of staff. Staff being sexual with patients. Bringing police in to threaten patients for simply not doing what staff said, even if posed no risk, including armed. You name it, I have probably witnessed/experienced it.
It's absolutely sickening. The staff themselves need serious mental health care...evil truly lives among us..I was homeless in TN for a while and they were some of the most disturbed, tramatized abusive people I've ever met. If anything ever happens and you live in Nashville I beg of you do not go the the Nashville rescue mission.
@@sammyrizzo1199 I mean CAMHS is a UK service so Nashville wouldn't ever be a place I seek help but still, so sorry for your experience
@@DaRadicalCavy 😂 Yeah that would be pretty far huh?
@@sammyrizzo1199 just a bit 😅🤣
So thankful for my positive experience at a great rehab facility in 2015. They truly cared about my sobriety and because of that I was able to find myself and remain sober to this day. It’s sad a sick that most of these places are just all about the money and couldn’t care less about the patients
The thing about rehabs (I worked as a BHT) is that they hire lots of newly sober people, they definitely rush people thru their program and don’t really stick to what the program is really meant for. Working in a rehab was quite traumatic nevertheless
Why the F would they hire people like that with confirmed histories? My god, the level of incompetency and endangerment are unbelievable..this is so reckless. It scares me that institutions don't vet harder and nobody is getting punished.
Yes the one I worked at preferred people that had history with drug use. But not all of the people they hired seemed to be fully rehabilitated themselves
I'm a delivery driver and I've delivered to "self help housing" places where they are basically group homes for rehab. However they all seem to be run down and dirty with no one present 24/7 to monitor the patients. I never could understand how a place like that would help someone get thru an addiction.
Please keep doing this series! Thank you!
I was in a mental health facility in Delaware that constantly told young women it was their fault for sexual assult/rape. The night staff molested people and they stole personal objects brought in.
Quitting was one the hardest things i ever did. Friends of mine were dying and I was on the line as well. The hardest thing to come to terms with was my choices. Addiction isnt an illness or disease, its simply a series of bad choices. That first choice was the hardest, but I did make it one day. I chose life. I chose to stop making the choice to die. 13 years later, ive left 10 years of addiction far behind me.
Addiction is an illness, I'm glad you recovered, but just because you did, doesn't mean Addiction isn't an illness. Addiction is a symptom of multiple mental health illness's, and when you are mentally unwell, it is very difficult to know what the real right choice is, so I have to disagree that addiction is just a series of bad choices. It's far more complicated than that. It could have been that way for you, or for some, but not for all.
@@AshtonAU I would say that many mental health conditions can lead people to make the choices that lead to addictions, but those addictions arent caused by anything but the choices. Life is complicated, thats why sometimes, you cant just look at problems like one big thing, but break them down into smaller, more manageable issues. It took me years to go from 15 year homeless drug addict to "well" adjusted citizen. One thing at a time. Got home. Got sober. Got job. Got happy. Doing well. =)
I was tortured in Mexico for 10 months in one of these centers. I was supposed to go in for mental help, ocd, not drug rehab. It’s been the worst experience of my life and still am suffering from the physical/emotional torture
I was lol 😂
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@@thedecafe1 I will find you everywhere
@@thedecafe1 getting your account banned
i love these vice's videos cause it gives us insight to how it really is in the work force at times
I’ve been to some horrible rehab facilities. The worst part is that when you’re in addiction, nobody will believe you that the facility is bad and that you’re not just trying to get out & use.
So, I've been to 2 rehabs in my life. Once when I was young, and once about 5 years ago where it really worked for me. I went back to work there for a period of time. I don't know if I got lucky or what, but I stayed sober and really applied myself while I was there. Most people do not. Most people are focused on everything and anything but the work they need to be doing on themselves. I'm not saying there wasn't a GIANT pile of nonsense (especially working there).. When I went in there, I thought they were just in it for the money too. Until I found out that they would extended my stay for as long as I wanted (totally free mind you.. no insurance, no nothing).. because I was actually doing the work.
Turns out my center would do that for ANYONE that wanted to stay. But only a few out of hundreds ever did. Maybe I just got lucky I don't know, but I do know that everyone that went through that treatment, all thought it was corrupt and could not stop complaining... and all of them were just waiting to get high again. That's the sad truth.. The help is there (it always has been) but people focus on the wrong things and never become open and willing to really do the work. Very few do. It's so rare, it's like a miracle when someone does it. And when someone does it, people will move MOUNTAINS to help them. If they really want it...
There is a HUGE difference between "saying" that you want something, and actually taking the actions and steps to do something. Most people are good at "saying" stuff, but they never follow through. They start focusing on what staff is doing wrong, the focus on their family, they focus on the other people in the center, and they never focus on themselves and what THEY need to do...
One of the most difficult and brave things for someone to do is make the decision to leave a toxic traumatic work environment. ESPECIALLY one that exists within a helping profession. Choosing yourself is helping your clients. Always choose yourself.
At some point not far away, if you cant help yourself, you cant help others. Seems obvious, doesn't it? But the money!
Thank you for writing this!!! This is the lesson I'm trying to come to terms with now. We sacrifice everything and destroy ourselves in the helping professions. It should never be sacrificing self and destroying your health in order to help others. I'm learning now I'll have to exit the field for my own self preservation and mental health. Healthcare is very toxic and draining.
I worked in the field for almost 25 years. I knew about these places. They pay well unfortunately it's crazy. I found that I would rather work at a lower wage at a smaller facility. The big facilities are some of the worst for corruption and abuse.
I had more clinical experience at the last facility than most of my higher ups. They ended up closing down and thats when I found out ALL the secrets. Glad they closed!
I also have been sober on top of this since 10/18/1989! Research where you go. There are excellent places out there. Not all the big names and expensive ones are the best btw! ✌
We're encouraged to do our research now that's good. But still when you call to get in a rehab in a hospital there's often a wait. I recently saw addicts freaking out on psych wards they were placed on in lieu of rehab. Begging for ativan. Being refused. It was hard to see.Hard to listen to. Total compliance- agreement was key to getting out. Agreeing with everything. Never disagreeing with the Doctors.
I saw strange stuff. I can say some of the staff were really professional and kind despite some really shady stuff going on. The fear of Covid was tough in close quarters. There were patients quarantined. There were violent screaming altercations. Intimidations. Really weird noises especially. In the Upstate NY psych center we couldn't ever go outside. That was the toughest. part for me. Some of the staff tried really really hard to offset some patients being released in 72 hours, others a whole month. It was sick. It didn't make sense. I was often scared there. But talking to the other patients kept me sane. Playing cards. Coloring. We craved activity. It was hard seeing patients pleading to be understood, to just let them to as they had kids. I saw some crazy dirty personal habits. Heard some crazy stories. I saw some people incredibly over medicated. That got to me. Once people socialized they often felt better.
HEY! congrats on your Sobriety!
I was born 6 days after your sober date. Wild. I myself need to get clean, I'm dependant on opiates..
Anyway, thanks.
As someone who works at a rehab facility.. and I can only speak for the one I work for.. it's an absolute joke. Its all about the money. They'll bend over backwards to get you there and then kick you in the ass on the way out. Paid plane ticket to get you there, a bus ticket to get you the fudge out. Get kicked out for breaking the rules? Kicked out on the street. Home is six hours away? Not our problem. It's all about filling that bed and hopefully convincing you to stay thirty days so we can get that sweet, sweet insurance money. I took this job thinking I was going to be helping people. That my job would be more then just a job. How wrong I was.
No matter what area, healthcare, will ALWAYS put profit over people. Please prove me wrong if you disagree
Sorry. I don't want to play with you today!
This is exactly why I left as an OR tech after three years. I was disgusted.
@@moralesm20532 what was your experience working in the OR if i may ask?
I have witnessed a lot of the same events at my last job. I felt like I was one of the very few staff that actually cared and could support our clients and if I quit, I'd be giving up on them. It took me years to quit without guilt. Thank you for speaking out and bringing awareness. But if you or a loved one needs help, please reach out. Do your research. Not every facility is like what was described in this video. I promise.
I knew a girl who went to a rehab like this. She had been struggling for years and it was a huge step for her to get help. We found out she was having affairs with staff members, being given weed, muscle relaxers and other drugs while there.
She ultimately OD’d within a week of being released, leaving her daughter without a mother :(
I was a mental patient suffering ptsd episodes in the psych wing part of the hospital in the Bronx of nyc. several times and during covid. it was so horrifying during covid.. all I'll say is that it was solitary confinement for nearly 3 weeks straight except when a doctor/nurse came to give you info or meds, which was only 1-2 times per day. they're supposed to check on you every 15 mins but don't, so one time a man came into my room and started touching himself and harassing me in my own room. then when I gave my 72 hour notice (which they HAVE TO RESPECT) they told me its only 72 hours in BUSINESS hours which is illegal and made me stay longer until I got a lawyer and got tf out. i'd love to hear someone speak on their experience because its such a nightmare in those hospitals even today.
Society is about to collapse or be so broken and almost unfixable in the next 15 years because of all the problems we've neglected for far too long. It's so many reasons why some form of societal collapse is unavoidable that our chance of avoiding catastrophe is long gone
It would have been interesting to have a follow up on this-
what red flags to look for in a group or organization.
What to do if it is abusive ( where to report)
Advocacy for places like these to be exposed and shut down
Nursing homes have ombudsmen to look out for patients. Rehabs should have something similar.
I went through a rehab program that would easily fall under the category of corrupt or compromised. I don't think it was fair for addicts looking for a safe place to deal with these environments. Hiring staff that is new to recovery is a prolific issue. There are some great insights in 12 step problems, though there is also a lot of potential for harm when vulnerable addicts are expected to put their trust in a program made up of dogma, judgement, and chaotic people. All that being said, the rehab I went to was far from the worst. No one actively pushed for relapse and there were more than a few people who wanted the best for the clients. Recovery isn't easy without professional clinical help but it IS possible. No program is going to 100% eliminate opportunities to relapse or filter out individuals who could be harmful to recovery
I just wouldn't dare conclude that its a matter of determination / will power / hitting rock bottom, or whatever formula that many know-it-alls will conclude is the guaranteed recipe for success.
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personally i don’t think the 12 steps cult is for everyone😂
I don't do the 12 step meetings. I had multiple bad experiences with sponsors. One sponsor was treating me more like a relationship and cried when I "broke up" with him. He used the term broke up, I just said "I don't think this is the right fit." Another sponsor would constantly cancel on me at the last minute or just stand me up. Eventually he quit being my counselor but blamed me for canceling on him even though he was well aware if something happens at the program, I have to reschedule and he agreed to that. I went to a few different meetings but they are all very clickie, except at this half way house on haight, forget what it was called, but the people at the sunday brunch meeting were really nice. When I moved back to the east bay from SF, the meetings had more hardened people and they were standoffish in their own ways. I'm sure people see me and think I couldn't have been that out there but I was. I had a 4 gram a day heroin habit and I smoked hundreds of dollars in crack on top of that. I slept in tons of squats, the best were inside the freeway overpass directly across from the Macarthur Bart platform and the former "A Man's Place" shelter on Fremont st. I also stayed in the crawl spaces under apartment buildings in Berkeley with an old tweeker named Uncle Louie. I even went to Mexico to be a "coyote," but I got screwed over by my socalled friends and hitched a ride back to SF.
I went to rehab when I was 19 to get clean from fentanyl. My roommate was 18 and we had a cockroach infestation in our room (you can imagine the quality of the rest of the place)... we complained about 10 times and every time they said they would "send someone to check it out". We both ended up leaving early (day 22) and it wasn't until I was gathering my belongings to leave that they sat me down and threatened to put an "AMA" or "against-medical-advice" on my permanent health record. The rehab industry can be truly sickening.
Yeah, and when they give you an AMA it makes it hard or impossible to get any financial assistance after that. They gave me one, but I came in voluntarily and was suppose to only do a 3 day detox, I stayed 4 days and they gave me ama , wanted me to stay longer I guess, but it was previously discussed that I was only doing 3/days.
Patient brokering runs rampant in the mental health industry, at least in N.Y. state, where a bed in a state O.M.H. (office of mental hygiene) facility costs upwards of $2,000 PER NIGHT. This can either be charged to the patient's private insurance, or to their Medicaid/Medicare. It's like a bounty system, where the doctor who commits the patients (generally against their will), the hospital, the staff, the drug companies etc. all get a piece of the pie, a kickback. It's criminal af. .
I know all about this personally. This is why I got out of this industry. I was a counselor and worked in a private treatment center who owned their own sober living. Getting paid to relapse and ha ing referrals who were using patients for their own gain. There is more to the treatment world then a lot of people even know.
When I was a jailer, most of the people we dealt with had some kind of drug charge. The addicts consistently said they'd rather go to rehab than jail, which made sense because we jailers were jerks and there were more freedoms at rehab... But come to think of it, I can't actually speak for the sobriety of the local rehab.
But don't a lot of jails have a contraband problem, because of the jailers sneaking things in? So its not like jailers are the toughest people either
And often the courts will send said people to rehab facilities if they are non violent lower to upper middle class violators after a brief jail stint. 🤷🏻♂️
@@mister0sir yep they bring in cell phones drugs.A $20 cell phone was going for $500 in jail/prison so yes there are alot of crooked ass guards
one of the few places on earth i fear are US prisons i would rather go to kabul
@@qu3nt brother NO…just no, you don’t want to goto a prison outside of the US trust me 😂😂😂🙏
I was at a Florida rehab for 3 days until I went to a different one. I got a call from a law firm that this rehab was being investigated for insurance fraud. Sadly, the rehab business has become rife with corruption. People come to these places for help but the only thing I noticed is how readily available drugs are in places like this. After a 22 year addiction and 8 rehabs I finally have almost 2 years sober and I didn't get there by attending rehab!!
I've experienced this exact same thing. Recovery center (social services in general) is a very hard field to work in long-term
I've experienced the same thing. It's incredibly toxic to your wellbeing and leads to burnout.
I use to work for Mayo Clinic which was the number 1 hospital in the world and I can’t tell you how many times I had to deny people who were dying or in pain treatment because we prioritize money over patient care. It’s not talked about but there is discrimination when it comes to insurance, your treatment quality depends on it. Mayo is the number one hospital for the 1% and “the patient needs come first” if you can afford it. Medicine is still a business with selfish greed as its motivation. I was retaliated against because I spoke up about something I thought was wrong.
You're absolutely correct!! And going against the unethical behavior by speaking up gets you mentally bullied, ostracized, or terminated. I learned the same reality and it's disgusted me to want to walk away from healthcare all together. It's a business for them and has nothing to do with patient care. It's all about getting the most profit from insurance, medications, and hospitals. It's unethical and about greed.
@@anitaknight3915 the ethics committee does not care about ethics, they care about money. Healthcare shouldn’t be a business unless it’s cosmetic but the sad reality of things are that medicine is all about management not curing as curing as a one time service leaves you with no income. Funny thing is that the prices that are determined are not based off of any value other than pushing it to the max an insurer Will pay for, a drug can be produced for $3 but that same medication Will cost $400+, doctors Will over treat you with good insurance and under treat you if you have a non network or undesirable insurance. They’re legally obligated to treat you for emergency care but they never said they had to actually help you .
@@T3KKI1X_5.56 absolutely huni I know this myself working in healthcare. I'm a therapist and it's all about insurance, getting as many apts/beds filled, and big pharma medications. The money is in keeping people sick and giving the illusion of treating symptoms with drugs instead of healing the cause. It's disturbing and very unethical. I plan to leave healthcare. There are no ethics or focus on care because it's all about money and profiting the business. I went into it to help people heal and all it's done is destroy my mental health & emotional wellbeing. Yep they've price gauged medications which is disgusting. They don't care about employees or patients.
This makes me so sad. Im clean from heroin since september and on sublocade since, i came to a free rehab center and it wasnt like that at all :(
As someone who’s been in corrupt facilities in both Florida and California and thousand dollars a day is actually nothing back door facilities charging PPO insurance policies six 7000 a day..
You know it. Take care and I hope you are doing well.🙂
Great insight, would love to see a report in a facility with talking to patients and staff.
Thank you for talking about it!!!! People need to know this !!!!!
I can relate to what this person told, I worked as a counselor in a corrupt rehab where it was all about money and keeping kids there longer than necessary to get government grants. I ended up complaining to the union and then having to quit because I completely burned out
Same for me as well! I had to quit when I discovered all this and the toxicity stress caused me to get very sick and burnt out. It was all about milking insurance and getting the coverage as long as possible while medicating and babysitting them not true recovery .
@@anitaknight3915 Exactly. And in my case it was actually very damaging to the kids because it was a behavioral merit program, where the faster they learned to show and practice recovery attitude, the faster they would be discharged. But the ones on grants were kept so long it was hindering their recovery by discouraging and not rewarding their efforts to change ☹ Especially when they would see kids on commercial insurance get "honorably discharged" in under 30 days not because the kid showed recovery, but because insurance stopped paying
Lol i remember when i brought this up in an outpatient rehab facility all the superiors and everyone got PISSED and the other patients got real quiet thinking
I promise mental health facilities are just as worse. it’s all about money no matter what anyone says. I worked at a high end psychiatric facility and the amount of mental abuse was insane
I agree!! It's all about money and they use mind control mental abuse tactics. They treat employees and patients awful.
THIS IS SO TRUE.
I just got out of working for a terribly corrupt treatment center that has 9 locations on the east coast from Florida to Massachusetts. After struggling with addiction for over 15 years and over eight years in prison I decided to pursue a job in treatment and was blessed to secure an entry position. The interview made everything sounds so promising, like everything was already set up for success. When the doors opened, There was only three behavioral health technicians to cover a 24/7 schedule. I found myself immediately working 80+ hours a week. I was just grateful to be able to help somebody and that I had stable employment after my history. A few more staff members were hired slowly as the clients came in rapidly. Are the staff that were brought on were incompetent and/or lazy to say the least. One was actively using. Another began having emotional/sexual relations with 2 separate male clients. The operations Director that hired me left during this period to go open up his own facility and as I reported these things to my superior, who is 1000 miles south in Florida, I was brushed off and disregarded. I continue to work hard seeing that there was opportunity for advancement and I thought that I could make a difference if I came into a leadership position. A new Director was brought in and I was made operations supervisor. At first glance, I liked my new boss. We had some things in common and he knew all the right things to say to make it sound like knew what he was doing. Over the next four months he showed his true colors and did absolutely no work call mom pawning everything off to me and then taking credit for it. A client arrived As a transfer from One of our Florida facilities and I saw the reaction on my bosses face when she walked through the door. She immediately stated that she would not stay because my boss had drugged and raped her three years ago. Mind you he had eight years of sobriety. With this information myself as two other employees called our superior and relayed everything that was going on and two weeks later he was terminated. At this point I was promoted to Director of operations and even though there was so much dysfunction and chaos on both the clinical and operations side I wanted to learn and I wanted to be the best I could possibly be at my position for the patients. With my new responsibility I started to have more involvement in the clinical and insurance side of the business and I quickly found out that as the person being interviewed here says it’s profit over people. So many different times I would hear the blatant lies to try and secure someone to our facility, we have a pool, a gym on property, hotel quality living space, adventure therapy. I was written up and suspended because A client Wanted to leave and go to a sober living but wasn’t due to complete for another three weeks and I recommended a few places to her and gave her phone numbers for them. They told me that if a client wants to leave I am not allowed to assist them with any resources that they have to deal with the consequences of a bad decision. A month before I left this facility we had a budget of $2000 a week where it had to cover gas for two 15 passenger vans, Money for cigarettes vapes and personal items that clients are able to purchase through their families putting money into an account(which goes directly to corporate not to the account which their loved ones are at), and items for the house such as food toilet paper paper towels and cleaning supplies. They cut it down to $500 a week. When I noticed I called my superior and she stated that it should be more than enough. Clearly not the case, I explain to her that it would not even get enough gas to get the vans back-and-forth from the houses to Clinical, and I was told that I needed call to not worry about it and mind my own business. There were horrible HIPPA violations, sharing private client information with other clients. Falsified group notes and clinician notes so that insurance companies would pay for more time for clients with good policies. They would have staff members give clients twice the amount of urine analysis tests They are supposed to get per week because they could bill $150 for each of them. My last Week working there I was in a meeting with call the national Director of operations and the executive Director of clinical services and I was voicing a lot of issues with the Unethical treatment taking place and the lack of patient care from higher up and they told me it’s not my job to worry about that, it’s my job to keep clients in the door. I did not agree with that and spoke my mind and was fired for it. Pennsylvania is a fire at will state so I had no legs to stand on. I was hurt because I had words so hard to get to where I was at cause and with my history I thought that I would never have another opportunity cost to make great money doing what I wanted to do. Cause I had sacrificed my own personal relationship, my relationship with my child, and my own sanity for this company. Needless to say I moved on and getting fired from there was the best thing that ever happened to me. I feel for the clients who are there because I know the treatment they are receiving and I know that they are just a policy number and not a human dying to get better. There are so many great rehabs out there, I finally got sober at one and was at many good ones before that. I wish that there was more investigation as to what’s going on behind closed doors in a lot of these places but I doubt there will be. Thank you so much to the man who spoke out about this because it sounded exactly like my own experience and more people need to hear this.
Where did you work?
@@Benjammin62 the main company is Harmony Recovery Group. The facility I was directing was Harmony Healing Center
As someone who has worked in treatment before, unfortunately this happens too often. There are good facilities but doing your research is important. We need more quality facilities that people can afford.
regardless of your stance on the drug war, I think we can all agree that rehab should be free
This happened to me. I checked in sober and was sober, my family paid cash. Everything here is true.
Omg!! This is so eye opening, even the comments!! I left the medical field because that was corrupted. I’m in school for a new career and wanted to help with substance abuse… my mind is blown… now. Is there no safe space
People with addiction issues and ESPECIALLY people who don't have a documented say 5+ years of providing clean tests should NEVER be allowed near people trying to get clean.
I've suffered with a heroin addiction for nearly 16yrs, with about 3 weeks clean in that whole time which was due to benzos and 110ml of methadone.
I got clean and then a few weeks later was moved into a 'supported living' facility. Within 2 days of moving in I was approached and back on heroin with the supply literally less than 20secs walk from my door to theirs. Since then I have not been able to get a single day clean and that's around 8yrs ago now. Even though I was only a few weeks clean, I had deleted my only source and due to housing situation had moved from the area too and started a methadone programme with a benzo script to help me deal with the anxiety I was using the H to help with.
Moving into a 'sober living facility' in which I thought I would be safe and be able to continue being clean with all the support offered by 24hr staff on duty and a personal case worker.
But when you are then put in a situation in which the drug of choice is literally not just in the area but in the SAME building as you are living and multiple different sources too it's the worst thing you can possibly do.
I don't associate with anyone who is an addict and throughout all my usage have been able to live pretty normal life including no interactions with the police and never committing a crime.
I have now had the same contact for the last 8yrs who drops off to me every single morning and I then clear my tab at the end of the month.
I want nothing more than to be able to get clean and also be able to fully enjoy my life by saving nearly £2000 a month (£1800 to be exact on a 30 day month). I haven't been able to travel anywhere due to needing a substance in order to just feel normal and that sucks.
I don't get high anymore.. I can smoke as much as I want and never feel high or 'nod off'. I need the amount I use in order to make me just feel how I did before I ever touched it. Such a shitty situation to be in 😏
Mate if you want to get clean you can do it, if you really do. If you want to keep getting high do that instead but don't beat yourself up over it. Your life, your choice. You have to own it whatever way you do it. Best of luck tho
I be just been through a rehab like this,I was so grateful to finally get help,but ended up having seizures with medical help (told I was a nightmare and demanding when I asked for help),bullied by the staff allmost got attacked by other patients and was threatened,got stolen off I could go on. Scary when you're desperate for help these places take advantage. Huge thank you to vice for bringing this topic to the surface,as I was told in there who's going to believe a ex alcholic over a staff member?
Anyone that could defraud an organization that faces such a slippery climb to begin with is definitely a special kind of evil..not to be all judgey but DAMN...
I’ve been to 13 long term rehabs plus countless other kinds of programs. This describes every rehab I went to. This is soooo accurate and there is sooo much more I can say about what goes on it gets even worse. Rehab messed me up as much as the street did. People ask why I went to so many different ones and why it took so many times to get good for good? It’s very simple. Toxic Rehabs.
I've worked in rehab at three different places, I've never seen the sex and drugs, but the 'insurance motivated admission/discharge' is very present. insurance basically puts rehab facilities in a box, they have to do xyz, they don't get paid for abc, only xyz, so that's what they all do, not much more. the private place looks nicer but cuts corners on doctors/social work hours(so changing meds or finding safe discharge is on the backburner), the state place looked crappy and had bland food but did a better job engaging with the doctors and providing safer discharge locations. they both charged about $1k a day
in the end insurance ties hands of facilities
Having been dealing with mental health and drug addiction issues for 25 years, I can strongly attest at a lot of places are like this profit over help. It's disgusting!
We have the same problem in Sweden. Some people get really rich on starting private treatment homes for youth criminals, mentally ill people or drug addicts. It’s state funded too and not private insurance in this country so it’s a lot of tax payer money that goes into treatment centers that even abuses patients and just start these centers to make as much money as possible not caring about patients/clients. One of my friends was horribly abused and that would not happen this often if the government cared about people with troubled lives (I’m one of these people myself). We are seen as second class citizens so they just don’t care to regulate and control our treatment. It’s good that you made this video.
my sister god bless her i hope she stays clean she just became a mom. pray everyday she stays sober
Vice, please do one on inpatient psychiatric facilities. This is literally the experience I've had in those places
My patients shared with me very traumatic stories which didn't help them at all. It's all about insurance and medication $ with these places not about truly learning therapeutic skills to heal trauma.
@@anitaknight3915 its really fucking unfortunate, immoral, and disgusting. I felt horrible for both the nursing staff that the higher ups mistreated horribly and the patients that weren't able to get any of the help and then end up on the street because the social workers are either incompetent or overbooked.
I was sent to a rehab by my parents, when I was 19. technically i was there voluntarily, but the alternative was homelessness. I was literally only using weed (not even daily by that point, only became dependent on it after I got out) and occasionally shrooms) They should have told my family that I didn't belong there with a bunch of heroin and meth addicts, but as most of their inpatients were fresh out of jail/prison on drug diversion programs, which brought in less money than private pay clients, they happily accepted me. They then proceeded to take me off of my adderall, which is ironic because unmedicated ADHD people are far more likely to develop substance abuse issues. they knew it was dr. prescribed but because the cheap testing kits they used could not distinguish between adderall and meth, I had to go off of them. also got scare tactics about how taking adderall (at prescribed doses, not abused) was the same as using street meth in recreational doses. since i saw how burnt out the meth heads in the clinic were, I internalized that and never complied with my medication after that. looking back its like I was brainwashed, and going off of my adhd medication made my life so much more difficult. if drug treatment was medically informed and not based on the weird freakish 12 step cult, they would never have take me off, and could have just ordered bloodwork to ensure that the levels of amphetamine in my system were appropriate and that I wasn't taking anything else. but that would have been more expensive and they value profits over patients.
This is what happens when getting sober is considered relevant “industry” experience and a badge of honor at the same time.
eh, i think that having staff at rehabs who are in recovery is generally a good thing, the problem with a lot of these shadier rehabs is not that they're staffed by former addicts, it's more that a lot of the former addicts they hire don't have a lot of clean time, and haven't done any training on things like social work or psychiatry
@@astridarideout1864 if they have experience overcoming an addiction and relevant training then sure, but someone whose never had an addiction but has trained in psychology or a related discipline is absolutely better equipped than someone who has overcome an addiction, but has no relevant training. i don't care if they have 50 years sober, they shouldn't be providing any sort of therapy if they have no training to do so.
I’m studying to become a drug and alcohol counselor. I’ve also been sober for years. This video sickened me, and will definitely be on the side of anyone truly seeking treatment. Much love ❤️👌🏻
I worked at a drug and alcohol rehab and I promise they are NOT all like this! While there is a corporate aspect many of the staff are incredibly helpful and understanding. Please just research the facilities and don’t let this stop you from getting help. 🙏🦋💕
In the 80's I was railroaded (parents, pastor, cops, judge and city council woman all in court) illegally (19 yrs old, unopened six pack in trunk of car I didn't own, no alcohol in system, no traffic violation) into Anchor Rehabilitation Center.
The only way to get out from the court ordered "treatment" was to agree to enter their halfway house condo system "voluntarily", which I did, after three months locked in, long enough to be a "free" man. There was one other guy in similar circumstance, and we played adversaries in group to bide our time and satisfy they admin of our sincerity until we could be discharged. Brilliant young man, wish y'all could have seen it!
Then I split in the middle of the night from halfway, so as to avoid a three day barraging of counselors and family trying to coerce and intimidate me into staying. I didn't contact my family for nearly three years out of fear and rage. They have some influence, and are very resourceful.
Some years later, the "Dr." in charge during my stay was caught using, like I had said he was. This is a man who told my parents a complete fabrication that I was having an homosexual relationship with my best friend from high school, whose sister I was in fact romantically involved with. There were other lies, too, like that I was a devil worshiper, shamelessly utilizing the "Satanic Panic" that swept through the PMRC types in that era, anything to scare the money out of them. Be careful, parents of struggling youth, not to cause more harm trying to help.Don't be led, or fooled by titles. Ànyone can print business cards saying anything.
My stay was extended due to great insurance and family monies, the poor kid who had little of these was "cured" almost immediately, like his abusing had just been a misunderstanding now cleared up. Awful convenient.
Just a side fact, the percentage of people who manage to "spontaneously remit", or sober up and stay sober on their own, is the same as the percentage of people who succeed in doing so through Anonymous and rehabilitation efforts, although these institutions seem to imply they are the only way to achieve this goal. While some clearly do well in such support groups, that wasn't for me, and I now have ten years and counting.
I gotta say...I'm THANKFUL that I don't suffer from drug addiction or any substance addiction for that matter.🙁
I mean, how many people lost their lives because they went into a rehab center that cared more about profits than human health? It's a living nightmare, especially since the United States loses a lot of people to substance abuse each year.😔
There’s so much corruption in the drug recovery industry. I hate it. There’s already SO much stigma with addiction and now we have assholes trying to profit off of us. Pure greed.
Iv been an addict since I was a child, I think it stemmed from having severe psoriasis from the age of seven and really missing a lot of school due to hospital visits, also wearing gloves at all times to cover my hands as they were very very affected, so always felt very different as a child growing up, finding drugs for me was like other kids finding sports or other socially accepted hobbies.
First it was weed, the ease and comfort that came with it was something I had never found in anything else… this was the at the age of 13 onwards, it escalated through the years, each year would bring more drugs to my attention and I would experiment to my life’s content.
I’m 27 now, also sober and still to this day I am fighting with myself because If I give in to my demons I will be miserable also everyone around me will suffer, but at the same time being sober for me is miserable but everyone around me who cares apreciates it and benefits massively from my sobriety.
I am a father of an amazing little man, a partner to a great and supporting woman, I have a trade behind me and a massive passion for music.
Getting sober was easy, staying sober is the challenge.
Anyone suffering from addiction, don’t seek rehabs, seek yourself, look inside at everything your running away from and reach out to family/friends. Create boundaries for yourself and include others who care to keep you on your toes at all times.
There is no cure for addiction, but there is hope for anyone who wants a better life free from drink or drugs.
Good luck 🤞🏼 ❤️
I'm an addict turned drug therapist, I speak to younger kids at schools and also have worked in a couple rehab facilities. You'd be surprised what people sneak in, by any means too. I had one young woman (she was 16 y'all) who was already addicted to herøin, it was so fking sad. She still writes me, so at least I know she's alive. 😢💔
This is why people who have obtained sobriety don't want to work in this industry because their sobriety is constantly in jeopardy.
Those are precisely the people who are running those places. You get a new recovering addict/alcoholic. They decide they want to become a counselor. I've seen it hundreds of times. They make it through the brief period of schooling to get a degree. And away they go. With under a year of recovery, going in and "helping" those in need. Every time I hear this at a meeting. I cringe, and ask them.later, if that is what they want? Answer is always the same. And we wonder why the drug epidemic is so bad.
The lunatics are running the asylum. Thats why
@@lordeverybody872 Man, that is one of the best comments I have read in a long time. I had similar thoughts, but was wise enough not to jump on it and ruin myself and someone else.