@@jlorde8838 innocent? Nah . I wouldn't say all THAT tho... But was the original dated trial affected by an excessive amount of external factors that can reasonably give doubt about the fairness of the trial. And that's the point, regardless of who is at stake. Like if they wanna just make an example of him no matter what the technicalities are-- then just say that! Lol ...that's ok too... But it just seems like a slippery slope....sooo.... 🤷♂️
That isn't how law works. If you are going to accuse someone of something illegal(lying as a juror) you also have to prove it wasn't due to a misunderstanding or poor communication such a an incomplete or poorly defined question. This is very common in court proceeding for some mundane language issue to be the main point to decipher if impropriety was at play or misunderstanding. While it appears the judge is being tedious, he is quite seriously pointing out that an accusation such as this requires intent to actually be improper.
So when a School band is marching according to you they are protesting 🤣 dude be quite and go back to sleep I'm pretty sure you had a Long day out in the barn with your favorite pig Jethro,putting in that work, 😉
@@JaimePretell The point the judge is making is that is not a given. When i was a kid, I participated in an annual event called "The March for Mankind" and it was simply a sponsorship walk/run for charity. There was no protest component of any form.
Mitchell was asked: “Have you, or someone close to you, ever helped support or advocated in favor of or against police reform.” Mitchell answered “No.” The march Mitchell traveled to-- "NAN’s Commitment March: Get Your Knee Off Our Necks!"" had as the first paragraph on its registration page: “Instigated from the protest movement that has risen up since the police killing of George Floyd, the ‘Get Off Our Necks’ Commitment March on Washington will be a day of action that will demonstrate our commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice.”
@@NG-cf7zh what do you mean by "spending," and where is the word "spending" in that question, genius? spending "a day of action that will demonstrate our commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice” means that one is supporting/advocating commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice. Plus, Mitchell wore a shirt stating "Get Your Knee Off Our Necks, BLM". That is clearly supporting/advocating, genius. if one "spends" a day at a march, one is supporting/advocating the cause of the march, unless they are specifically protesting against the march.
Derek Chauvin is GUILTY. The juror might be a scumbag, but that doesn't mean Chauvin gets off. If anything, the juror should just be thrown in the same cell as Chauvin for 1 year.
Not in this case clearly the guy was a crackhead and we know that he took a Lethal amount of fentanyl but this other kid who was savagely beaten and killed wasn’t “protested” in any similar way even though the latter was actual malice that resulted in a death no one cares because it was black on black crime but if it’s a situation that you can spin in a racial way it makes all the difference I feel bad for those cops in the Jorge Floyd situation some basic routine shit that ended up getting them locked up these people aren’t trained to handle drug addicts and people with mental and health issues their job is to basically decontaminate society of people who show extreme examples of antisocial negative behaviors which are illegal of course but oh well what a wonderful world right
Thats Bullshit When Timothy McVeigh bomb a building in Oklahoma he killed hundreds of people alot of them was hildren his partner while for his "safty" a lot of so called death threats not one person has actually tried to carry it out not his partner not McVeigh as we know he died for his crime but the other spent decades in a oklahoma prison and is still alive i am sure many of those prisoners either had family of friends in that building and yet he still hasn't been killed those jury's was not in fear for their lives that's just a bunch of crap this horrible racist piece of crap is saying cause he doesn't want to have to pay for his actions look here i support the police in fact i think we need them very much i think they are all that stands between us and another dark age I also think it takes a very special kind of person to keep the oath they all time protect and serve that is a oath stamp on everything that they do I also believe the job that do sometimes a little leeway should be given considering the job they have to do but I also believe in a very important words with great power comes great responsibility and absolute power corrupts absolutely he was a fair trail he was found guilty the video take was clear to anyone with any brain of his guilt anyway no one is above the law isn't that what republicans and democrats preach all the time well no officer no matter race religion or sex should be a 007 in fact how can anyone except any citizen to obey the law if they themselves can disregard or throw it out all together leadership in its name means they lead by example police officers regardless of rank our leaders of the community
3:55 The defense is interrupted by the court. The defense begins with venue issues and the court interjected by changing the topic. This is wrong. The appellate court should be listening and questioning the topic raised. Not changing the topic. Perhaps it's wrong,but the attorney should have suggested discussing that topic after he's done addressing his first concern and get to that other topic later. The judge was wrong.
Don't try it in Minneapolis. Over 100,000 permits to carry have been issued here in the past two years. No one is burning down anything without consequences here.
Here’s another piece of education/information. Regardless of whether the defense is granted an appeal and Chauvin’s conviction is vacated, he is given a new trial and all of the evidence presented by the prosecution in the trial is suppressed, on DEC 15, 2021 Chauvin pleaded guilty in federal court to civil rights violations of GF, AND a 14 year old boy that he killed in the same manner in SEPTEMBER 2017 and was sentenced to more than 20 years in federal prison. So, even if his sentence is vacated, he won’t be waiting for a new trial as a free man, even if he is found not guilty in a new trial, he will not be a free man. He’ll be serving out his 20+ year sentence in a different cage, and to my knowledge, there is no parole in the Federal prison system. We know of at least two unarmed people Chauvin is responsible for putting in a grave, he may very well be a serial killer. If he did this before and the result was a dead boy, how can we see this as anything other than murder? Did the boy also have a preexisting health condition, a bad heart, or is it fair to assume that when you cut the blood supply to the brain off, the forecast is unconsciousness followed by widespread death.
In a world where truth is ever told, this court would say that, _"There's no way this court will find for Chauvin, because the certainty that our lives would be changed forever. The threats on our and our families lives and the social ostracism that would befall us is more than we're willing to risk and endure as appellate court judges."_
No matter where this trial was held he could claim he didn't get a fair trial, as these riots were all over the world not just in America. If the Lawyers didn't write the jury questions properly nor ask them the right questions to those questions it's not the jurors fault.
“All over the world”??? 🤔 The world is a pretty big place and most of the world knows nothing about this case, not even all over the U.S., not everybody is glued to the screen 📺
The conviction of Derek Chauvin makes it even clearer that cases and trials need a high level of anonymity. If the possibility of a fair trial is impossible in any venue, then there is no other recourse than to throw out the trial and release the accused to the public. 4 billion dollars in damage, dozens killed, and thousands injured. Many lost their business and are still suffering from the economic turmoil it caused. There is no place this man could receive a fair trial.
And jurors lied to get on the jury lol y’all care only about the cops lie lmao he should be in jail with Derek btw he also threatened jurors which is a felony but hey he’s blm so that saves his sorry ass
Those federal convictions are there, no way out of them, as he pled guilty. That is predominantly why this court will rule against him, even if they do not state that as there reasons. What is the point in having a new trial, if it changes nothing has to his guilt and incarceration?
Well, carotid sinus pressure isn't what killed Floyd. Nor was Floyd suffocated by Chauvin. His death was an accident. Brought on by the drugs he was on and the physical stress from resisting arrest. The problem is Chauvin kept him in a choke position for too long and didn't get EMS their fast enough.
Fascinating. One thing you can say about the law: it has respect for the English language. Dicing up and ferreting out meaning of words to the nth degree. It’s kind of like an Olympic wrestling match of the mind.
If people actually followed and attempted to understand our legal system, they would realize it’s the greatest system in the world. What you brought up is just one small reason why.
When there's a video of you murdering a man in broad daylight what in hell does it matter where the trial is held. People in Texas saw the same video as the people in Minneapolis did.
@Jim Sachtjen: I did not see a murder; what I saw plain as day was a drug overdose death. Although the knee on the neck was a horrible optic it had nothing to do with the death of the unfortunate gentleman. There were copious instances of reasonable doubt that should have resulted in an acquittal.
@@davidgaugamela9801 as i stated elsewhere i am not sure if Chauvin thought he was actually following protocol by keeping the knee on...he may have thought Floyd had excited delirium, and the protocol then is to keep the person still until paramedics arrive (the move he used was in also one of the Minn. police manuals). would have been good if Chauvin testified.
Maybe it is time to rethink our jury system. Perhaps a literacy test would be a good start, or a minimal score on a standardized test. That way jurors would be able to separate appearances and the way they felt from reality.
In all fairness, the determination as to what a combination of words and punctuations means can easily be two very different outcomes. Each law is a general statement that gets scrutinized until a finite meaning comes of it. If our process didn't work this way then one law could end up being infinitely long as to cover every situation that could possibly ever arise, including the situations that have never been thought of until a future time. Much like this post is dragging on, the same thing with written law would happen. Just doesn't make sense that way.
Non-attorney here. But it sure felt like he was trying garner some sympathy and get an edge. The whole hearing impaired colloquy seemed unprofessional and misplaced.
He shoulda took the deal he’d be half way done 6 years good behavior. but nope his ego and privilege wouldn’t let him . even though his crime was on video !! goof ball
You should check out George Floyd's toxicology report. This death was not due to so-called police brutality this was a simple overdose caused by Floyd's himself. Chauvin should be acquitted.
@@tracieroberts6323 I don't care where his knee was, he killed him and the jury convicted!! How would you like to be pinned down on the ground for over 9 minutes?? 🔊
I don't think they've figured out that bit somehow. Chauvin should dig in and become a writer, he'd make a fortune out of this and a fortune more as soon as he's served his well deserved time. I'm all for professional Policing. Chauvin is a murderer, I've seen that with my own eyes and know enough medically to understand the cause of his death, as well as what didn't cause it.
@@stvbee7479 I saw the video. He was already dead. The cop didn’t kill him. He couldn’t breathe before he was ever put in car then removed immediately. If the cops would have given him narcan he might have lived. He killed him self and never cared about the woman he threatened with a knife.
@@nicksmart7094 They had him handcuffed and in the back of the patrol vehicle, but they decided to take him out and kneel on his neck for almost 9 minutes, whilst he repeatedly shouted he couldn't breathe. And you think they did nothing wrong!!!!
Trying to get an obvious murderer released or time reduced is police is what a killer would do.This murderer should never walk around without concrete and steel surrounding him
So if he was trying to "murder" Floyd then why did he try to put him in the cop car and take him to the police station? You are aware that Floyd is the one who asked to be laid on the ground. Floyd died from a drug overdose of fentanyl. Chauvin had nothing to do with his death. There is not one shred of evidence whatsoever that Chauvin was racist either. The entire thing was a complete farce.
@@joeldriver3971 You walking around like you can't be George Floyd bruh. Just by your melanin dude you a target just like any other black man.Philando Castille,stopped more than 50X and shot in the chest after telling pig he had a license to carry.A conservative mindset leave one stuck on stupid
@@brianburnett118 Black people are the ones killing black people, not cops. They are 13% of the country yet are committing over half the murders and 94% of them are against themselves. Cops kill less than 20 "unarmed black males" in an average year. You don't know stats or facts.
Delusional police believe they are bestowed God-given ultimate authority over man is the work of Satan and Narcissism, not Romans 13 or of God! Thousands of police officers every year are convicted of rape/other sex crimes, assault, domestic violence, murder, perjury, planting of drugs and evidence, etc... Police are as far removed from God and biblical teachings as the east is from the west!! - QUALIFIED IMMUNITY PERVERTS HUMANITY and JUSTICE! - Turtletruth (Semper Fidelis)...
It’s ok to lie to the court about being a blm member as long as you are on the right side. He gave that liar excuse after excuse not to mention he also threatened jurors
. You can disagree with how it happened, but at the end of the day we owe Chauvin a debt of gratitude for sacrificing his freedom to rid the world of a predator like Floyd. . .
@@justsomeguy6474 It strains credulity to think that the DC march was not substantially about Floyd and police brutality. He can say (and lie) that it wasn't a "protest" concerned with police brutality, but that is dishonest.
Agreed! I can’t think of anything funnier than the idea of this courageous hero out from behind prison walls and in the public without a badge, gun or an army of costumed cowards at his beck and call. Be a great reality show. We can bet the over/under on his factory reset at around 9 minutes just for the sake of irony.
This cop got railroaded. I grew up in Detroit, cops did this on a regular to us. Look on any episode of cops over 15 years old you'll see it a million times without fatality. This is so ridiculous the man literally swallows fentanyl on cop cam 20 minutes before his death and 20 minutes later he overdosed.
Do people really think that this was uncommon?! How precious. The difference is just that this time it was on video. There are videos of cops on people's necks but I think the amount of time he was on Mr. Floyd's neck and him remaining on his neck for minutes after Mr. Floyd had clearly become unconscious were also factors. Most people actually have a visceral reaction to watching another human being beg for air as they are forced against the pavement and killed. I wasn't surprised at all by the U.S public's reaction...I expected an even larger reaction tbh. Whether or not Mr. Floyd had drugs in his system isn't all that relevant imo. It doesn't excuse any of Mr. Chauvin's actions even people who are drug free need to breathe to survive. The whole "but he was a drug user" thing just wasn't as dehumanizing as some people hoped it would be. Take care.
Wonderfully done documentary. Very educational. BLM still hasn't said where the $80 MILLION they stole from the community they were said to protect went.
@@natasia64 actually Floyd died of a Fetanyl overdose as his autopsy found he had 11ng/mL of Fentayl in his system. Regarding asphyxia, the Hennepin county medical examiner's report found "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation". _"No that's not true Sean, you rathist! I want to believe it was a rathist cop who killed George Floyd so stop showing me facts that prove otherwise!"_
The sad thing is Derek C absolutely could not be found not guilty. There would have been billions of dollars in damage across America. It’s not so cut and dry.
@@conniekimble1782 except Floyd didn't suffocate. if you paid attention to the trial, during Tobin's second testimony on the Defense's side, after the final hospital records were admitted into evidence, The defense places a trap by explaining Floyd could have died by exhaust fumes. Tobin explains it was impossible, as Floyd had 98% oxygen saturation upon his death (in the hospital) and it'd require 92% to reach suffocation. Meaning, Floyd didn't suffocate.
The case was widely known. To say that the jurors had a stake because they lived in the area where the murder and riots took place and you believe the chances of a riot happening somewhere else would have been zero is a stretch. Riots would have broken out everywhere regardless.
No one can deny it - everyone has developed an opinion on this horrible event after seeing the video of Mr. Floyd die in front of our eyes! Leave it be. No place in America is going to be without bias regarding this case.
@@braylens1822 he can get a retrial but he literally killed someone on tape. The jurors didn’t do it the protesters didn’t he did and you guys are making it more complicated than it should be. I don’t understand if the cop were black and George were white I’d stand on it. This is weird as hell, have you guys not watched the video
2:39 - also fyi i don’t technically have a hearing problem, but sometimes when there’s a lot of noises occurring at the same time i’ll hear ‘em as one big jumble. - NATE (the office)
@@NG-cf7zh I haven't thought about him or George Floyd in a long time. Meanwhile you're over here with your head so far up in MSM that you can hardly breathe. I can't breathe! 🤣🤣🤣 sAy hiS naMe! 🤣🤣🤣
The lawyer appearing for the State is just repeating the hot button rhetoric used for the last 2+ years. The rest is just about juror 52, who went to DC where the Floyd family were special guests. The term, "A necessary lie" should be the title of the whole case built against these officers, and this man in particular.
@@backdeck9978 I agree, his opening statement was so melodramatic and just a repetition of what we have heard 1000 times... and his focus on the "9 minutes 21 seconds.." (or whatever the time period was).
@@anlace3447 Just like the "You can believe your eyes, it was murder" opening statement from prosecution in the trial, the other side of that is, "You can believe the science; Fentanyl." I feel sorry for the life Floyd chose to live, but he asked five times to get on the ground after four men could not get him into the squad car. He was kicking his legs and resisting. He knew he had committed another felony. I wonder if the people who proceded to make a case anyway, and the people who decided to let violent crowds take over the city had any idea it would be this bad. Hard for them to admit and hard to reverse.
@@backdeck9978 yes, and the fact remains is, the medical examiner stated that Floyd has enough Fentanyl in his system to cause death (and we also know he has other drugs in his system, heart problems, etc.) Some drugs were even found in the squad car. Those are facts, but you raise them with some people and they will not even acknowledge them, it is like their emotions take over...they also conveniently forget that Chauvin called the medics twice. Chauvin's trial was an absolute farce, how the jury did not see reasonable doubt is ridiculous...yet, if they truly thought their family and homes would be targeted, it is understandable.. even people who testified for Chauvin have been harassed, one having pig's blood thrown on his former house...
When the judge interrupts within 2 minutes to ask a question not at issue.. it's the appellant's appeal, not the judges.. he's not going to give chauvin a fair go...
he didn't do any crime. he was the victim of public outrage from uninformed social media users and a public pent up from lockdown looking for a cause to fight
@@leejackson3268 GF was alive until they laid him out on road and chain knee was cutting off circulation and windpipe. One of the officers challenged Chavin as much as a junior officer could but Chavin didn’t shift weight on him. The ambulance arrived and he was dead…can see when they move his to board and gurney his neck flops like all my animals neck does when euthanized. Take Chavin out of picture….GF is still alive when EMT arrives. Get real dude. Chasing pleaded guilty in federal court!
the appeal should not be denied. 2nd degree murder requires intent. the prosecution never even alleged intent. plus a black supremacist was on the court and didn't disclose that
chauvin was accused of 2nd degree murder. which requires intent. the prosecution did not at any point allege intent as part of the trial , by definition the prosecution didn't meet the standards for that charge
@@007kingifrit have you even read the Minnesota second degree murder statute? It specifically says “causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person”.
Because it literally does not matter, the whole incident was shown from first contact between Chauvin and Floyd until Chauvin killed Floyd. Literally every single second was dissected in this time frame, anything before that does not hold any bearing on if Chauvin killed him or not.
@@natasia64 I understand that, bit the media manipulated the hell out of this. Cops dont do that for nothing Floyd reisted ridiculously and drugs were a factor. Cops aren't mind readers nor are they physicians. We now have total lawlessness here in Australia with blks bashing innocent people, including the elderly. Did one man's misstreatment justify riots and now world-wide unrest and racism!? Of course not!
How can you reference CO, who is ignorant to the facts and blinded by a lie. Everyone saw Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck. The officers DID NOT follow their own training which was to roll a suspect on his side REGARDLESS. In the beginning of the arrest, they accused Mr. Floyd of being under the influence therefore they knew the protocol. Chauvin is not arguing that he followed his training he is arguing an unfair trial.
There is no way Chauvin was ever going to get a fair trial. I do appreciate how well the court questioned and challenged both sides arguments. However, due to the nature of this case a fair non biased outcome will never be possible. And that is sad for all.
If NOT for Derick Chauvin and Tao George Floyd would be alive. So sick of people defending people just because they are LE. Every single person in this country has rights. Every. Single. One. Even this POS ex cop who killed to get his jollies off. $20 will never be worth someone's life. Ever.
But Floyd was no hero. How do we disregard his criminal actions? Like holding a pregnant woman at gun point during a burglary? What’s wrong with our society?
Judge Cahill did an admirable job, IMO. As Katyal stated, he gave the defense 18 strikes on jury selection, only 15 were utilized. If the defense had any worries about juror 52, they should have used a strike there.
The social media should 1000% be scrutinized of jury. Lol if the cops social media alone can get them fired, the social media of the jury can at least be looked at. Like it’s about being fair.
The picture of that juror was on his uncle's social media which is why it wasn't noticed immediately. If he hadn't revealed his identity by going on a podcast he would have gotten away clean with lying during jury selection. Cahill refused to do his job and hold him accountable.
@@tommas2674 if it was a overdose or not Derek chauvin still pick the wrong day to work and show the world the way his ancestors really lives😂🤔🤡 Derek chauvin has to deal with he should’ve stayed home that day
The guilt in this case was just so pervasive, this case just reeked with inhumanity and the idiot was so drunk on his own power he actually thought he did nothing wrong. Makes me sick...he deserves every last second behind bars and I agree Judge Cahill handled his ass fairly considering Chauvin didn't deserve the grace he was shown
I use to think like you here but after watching the entire trial I don't think this cop killed Floyd now because Floyd ate sooooo much drug's to get rid of them. He was still chewing on drug's while they were fighting. He ate enough to kill a horse. His girl said Floyd was coming in and out of consciousness because he was so high. Floyd committed a crime. Cop's were called and it was Derek's job to arrest Floyd. What was officer Derek supposed to do? Show up on official duty and say "ohhh noooo he's a man of color... I can't do my job"?
I don’t see anything presented by the appellant that makes any difference in the facts of the case. There is no new evidence presented that would suggest that the defendant would be acquitted. I see this appeal being denied.
this is only the oral arguments. Long briefs were submitted before ages before this court session. what you hear in this session is only like 10% of what was argued in the Briefs.
@@anlace3447 I understand that it’s a long process. What I’m saying is that when the defense is going to be grasping at straws for the intention of getting a new trial, there’s nothing that I can see that would make a difference in favor of the defense that a new trial would be able to present. To say that there was a juror, that the defense had every opportunity to question and challenge would make a difference in the facts of the case, or that a change of venue would make a difference in the facts of the case; I just don’t see that happening. Only way I see anything turning out differently is if the defense can get all the evidence from the prosecution thrown out. I would like to think that a judge would be able to make impartial decisions, but I think that we both know that if this verdict is overturned and he is given a new trial, the violent protests from the last George Floyd will probably be even worse this time and with a potato head president, there’s not going to be much help there.
@@dennisjohnsen7297 the defense did have the chance to qstn him during voi doir., but it was presupposed he told the whole truth in the questions....I do not know how that will play out... the prosecution did argue, like yourself, that the venue did not make a difference, but the defense was right in stating that the court was surrounded by fencing, police, etc....and it can be inferred that the jury had a stake in the outcome...(not wanting riots in their area). the alternate explanation for Chauvin and "the knee"-- Chauvin thought Floyd was suffering excited delirium, the protocol then is to then keep the offender still until paramedics arrive...(see "White Report" on excited delirium). I do not know why Chauvin did not testify, however...he should have just said "I did it for x, y, and z reasons..." it will be interesting to see what the outcome of the appeal is. People certainly have different opinions on this incident! With re: Mitchell: Mitchell was asked: “Have you, or someone close to you, ever helped support or advocated in favor of or against police reform.” Mitchell answered “No.” The march Mitchell traveled to-- "NAN’s Commitment March: Get Your Knee Off Our Necks!"" had as the first paragraph on its registration page: “Instigated from the protest movement that has risen up since the police killing of George Floyd, the ‘Get Off Our Necks’ Commitment March on Washington will be a day of action that will demonstrate our commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice.”
@@anlace3447 i would be willing to bet that even if the defense knew that the juror did not answer truthfully, me, if I were his attorney would have probably known that this case is practically impossible to get a not guilty verdict, so I would hope that I could get an appeal based on these issues. But the reality is that unless he can get the state’s evidence kept out of a new trial, there’s nothing that the defense can produce that would support the argument that a reasonable jury would come to a different verdict. Change of venue, no, different jury, no. Only if the evidence is suppressed and the jury instructions are such that it will make a difference. The defense is wanting to present an entire new defense. Was the delirium evidence available during the first trial? Even with the delirium defense, that doesn’t justify restraining a suspect in handcuffs with a knee to the neck until he is dead. We spend hundreds of millions on training cops how to restrain a suspect. Not just the ones that comply, but the non compliant as well. If he can point out where in that delirium tactic it shows that the suspect is to be restrained by cutting off the blood supply to his brain until medical attention arrives, then he might have a case. When onlookers can see and are very vocal in telling him that he is not breathing, to say that it would be reasonable for the officer that has his knee on the neck would not be aware, but everyone else is. That’s not going to work. I saw the same thing you saw; Chauvin was not going to allow these hood rats to dictate how he was going to do his job. Chauvin’s left hand in his pocket, that’s him pushing down even more with that hand. He knew what he was doing and that’s why he should be smart enough to know that he can find himself facing a murder 1 conviction if he is given a new trial. He’s so consciously aware of the delirium thing, but he’s not aware that his suspect is dead? But that’s not what we’re talking about. I just see his appeal being denied because there is no evidence available today that wasn’t available during the trial, it would be reasonable to expect that the evidence presented by the state during the trial would likely produce the same verdict, and there isn’t a claim of exculpatory evidence that the state withheld from the defense. I’m on the record for “Request denied, resubmit in 2 years for further denial.” It’s just stupid that this guy had to do what he did, and for what? A misdemeanor counterfeit charge?
This case was different you had news media and many politicians already had him guilty before his day in court. As big as this case was I don't see anyone in the state he was from not knowing what was going on. With high-profile cases it's really hard to get a fire trial nowadays.
@@Cochise6666 he demonstrated in this video that no, he did not know the difference between the evil floyd and the hero derek chauvin. chauvin did nothing wrong btw. no evidence he killed the evil floyd
@@Cochise6666 Neal Katyal wasn’t district attorney in state case. That was Keith Ellison who did not try the case but assembled the lawyers who did prosecute the state case.
Am not a lawyer but the judge interrupting Chauvin's attorney to sideline him with a convoluted mess that took most of his 15 minutes was outrageously rude and infuriating. Chauvin's atty should have been given his full 15 minutes to present his appeal, but the judge overlooked his intrusion and should be held accountable for his poor and unfair diversion.
after watching again, I noticed that too. he started his speech, was on one topic, and this judge buts in and completely changes the topic...that doesn't seem right...
@@anlace3447i guess none of you is an attorney pr has ever appealed a case. It is standard practice. Briefs are sent in advance and questioning is a hint at where your case is weak or strong.
@@1Pushypusher aHA. That helps. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten. Did all that talk advance or detract from getting an appeal? I still wonder why DC's atty didn't get to finish his presentation. If untangling knotty questions is the sole reason for appeals, what if there are more questions than 15 minutes allows? It seems unfair.
@@melissastreeter22 that could be a valid point. However, understand that appeals are not a do over of the trial. The scope of appeals is very limited and the appeal lawyer needs to be on top of his game and master his craft. The oral arguments just serve to argue the brief that was filed on the record, which is more extensive.
Don’t waste the states time and money on a new trial..He plead guilty and he is guilty as charged.
CASE CLOSED!!..🤔🤷🏼♀️
He did not plead guilty. There was a trial. He deserves his appeal to be heard.
pLeAd gUiLtY 😂
uuuuh no he didn't? what are you uninformed?
@@Marie70272 that's not a response to anyone? is english not your first language?
@@007kingifrit what do you think..stop responding to my comments..He plead guilty in Federal court.
Jack A-😡
lock him up longer
They Know better . Derik isn’t worth it .
He got one criminal
Out the way and
Kyle 2 out the way
👀👀👀👌👌👌👌👌👌
@@crecenciogonzalez9875 Ashley Babbitt is also out the way...
i think he is worth it. if we let one innocent man go to jail for mob rule they can hurt any of us
Yeah
Neal Katyal is a baaaadddddd man…if I ever have an appeal in a case I’ve lost - I want him - the other counsel is just clearly outclassed…
Although I agree, the other lawyer is defending the indefensible.
@@davidlopez-nk2cu lmao the guy is innocent.
@@jlorde8838 innocent? Nah . I wouldn't say all THAT tho... But was the original dated trial affected by an excessive amount of external factors that can reasonably give doubt about the fairness of the trial. And that's the point, regardless of who is at stake.
Like if they wanna just make an example of him no matter what the technicalities are-- then just say that! Lol ...that's ok too... But it just seems like a slippery slope....sooo.... 🤷♂️
@@jlorde8838 you havent joined the murderers lawyer team yet?
He is eloquence on legs - so classy
Appeal denied.
A March is a type of protest. The judge is being purposely obtuse.
That isn't how law works. If you are going to accuse someone of something illegal(lying as a juror) you also have to prove it wasn't due to a misunderstanding or poor communication such a an incomplete or poorly defined question. This is very common in court proceeding for some mundane language issue to be the main point to decipher if impropriety was at play or misunderstanding. While it appears the judge is being tedious, he is quite seriously pointing out that an accusation such as this requires intent to actually be improper.
So when a School band is marching according to you they are protesting 🤣 dude be quite and go back to sleep I'm pretty sure you had a Long day out in the barn with your favorite pig Jethro,putting in that work, 😉
Wrong. A March is a type of month and usually after February. And a pro test is a quiz for a professional.
@@baldy517 The question was if he attended a protest, not what form of protest was done. A March against something is a protest.
@@JaimePretell The point the judge is making is that is not a given. When i was a kid, I participated in an annual event called "The March for Mankind" and it was simply a sponsorship walk/run for charity. There was no protest component of any form.
Mitchell was asked: “Have you, or someone close to you, ever helped support or advocated in favor of or against police reform.” Mitchell answered “No.”
The march Mitchell traveled to-- "NAN’s Commitment March: Get Your Knee Off Our Necks!"" had as the first paragraph on its registration page: “Instigated from the protest movement that has risen up since the police killing of George Floyd, the ‘Get Off Our Necks’ Commitment March on Washington will be a day of action that will demonstrate our commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice.”
Thank you.
So it was a self-described march, not a protest, thank you
Spending isn’t the same as supporting or advocating, genius
@@NG-cf7zh what do you mean by "spending," and where is the word "spending" in that question, genius?
spending "a day of action that will demonstrate our commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice” means that one is supporting/advocating commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice. Plus, Mitchell wore a shirt stating "Get Your Knee Off Our Necks, BLM". That is clearly supporting/advocating, genius.
if one "spends" a day at a march, one is supporting/advocating the cause of the march, unless they are specifically protesting against the march.
Derek Chauvin is GUILTY.
The juror might be a scumbag, but that doesn't mean Chauvin gets off.
If anything, the juror should just be thrown in the same cell as Chauvin for 1 year.
This is a moral issue. "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Chauvin did not kill that dirtbag.
Not in this case clearly the guy was a crackhead and we know that he took a Lethal amount of fentanyl but this other kid who was savagely beaten and killed wasn’t “protested” in any similar way even though the latter was actual malice that resulted in a death no one cares because it was black on black crime but if it’s a situation that you can spin in a racial way it makes all the difference I feel bad for those cops in the Jorge Floyd situation some basic routine shit that ended up getting them locked up these people aren’t trained to handle drug addicts and people with mental and health issues their job is to basically decontaminate society of people who show extreme examples of antisocial negative behaviors which are illegal of course but oh well what a wonderful world right
“Absolute power corrupts. It’s better to be powerless.” -Hedwig & the Angry Inch
That attorney needs to get a different job !
He’s terrible at his job judging by the way he argues his clients position. Lame!
Which one?
He's guilty now guilty then guilty forever let his ass stay on prison for the rest of his life.
Don't hold your breath.
@@Reaper-cm4jr NAW DON'T HOLD YOURS FACT
Those jurors were afraid for their own skins if they acquitted Chauvin.
understandably
@@omegapointil5741 The angry mob outside the courthouse tipped them off. Since when has public opinion ruled the justices system?
How do you know?
It doesn’t mean they came to the wrong conclusion.
Thats Bullshit When Timothy McVeigh bomb a building in Oklahoma he killed hundreds of people alot of them was hildren his partner while for his "safty" a lot of so called death threats not one person has actually tried to carry it out not his partner not McVeigh as we know he died for his crime but the other spent decades in a oklahoma prison and is still alive i am sure many of those prisoners either had family of friends in that building and yet he still hasn't been killed those jury's was not in fear for their lives that's just a bunch of crap this horrible racist piece of crap is saying cause he doesn't want to have to pay for his actions look here i support the police in fact i think we need them very much i think they are all that stands between us and another dark age I also think it takes a very special kind of person to keep the oath they all time protect and serve that is a oath stamp on everything that they do I also believe the job that do sometimes a little leeway should be given considering the job they have to do but I also believe in a very important words with great power comes great responsibility and absolute power corrupts absolutely he was a fair trail he was found guilty the video take was clear to anyone with any brain of his guilt anyway no one is above the law isn't that what republicans and democrats preach all the time well no officer no matter race religion or sex should be a 007 in fact how can anyone except any citizen to obey the law if they themselves can disregard or throw it out all together leadership in its name means they lead by example police officers regardless of rank our leaders of the community
3:55
The defense is interrupted by the court.
The defense begins with venue issues and the court interjected by changing the topic.
This is wrong. The appellate court should be listening and questioning the topic raised. Not changing the topic.
Perhaps it's wrong,but the attorney should have suggested discussing that topic after he's done addressing his first concern and get to that other topic later.
The judge was wrong.
If he is released a lot of television sets will be looted.
I'm looking forward for it.
Don't try it in Minneapolis. Over 100,000 permits to carry have been issued here in the past two years. No one is burning down anything without consequences here.
@@tracieroberts6323 man I can only imagine what you people have been going through in Minneapolis have been going through these past 2 - 3 years
Yea, by white people
@@tracieroberts6323 You won't do anything. You lack the courage to take a stand and use it.
Very educational to learn about the process.
you tube gives a better education than the education system in America- we are losing the intelligence battle lower every year
You are so correct. Often wondered what happens at Appeals.
🤨Watch closely folks…this is where the magic happens.
Here’s another piece of education/information. Regardless of whether the defense is granted an appeal and Chauvin’s conviction is vacated, he is given a new trial and all of the evidence presented by the prosecution in the trial is suppressed, on DEC 15, 2021 Chauvin pleaded guilty in federal court to civil rights violations of GF, AND a 14 year old boy that he killed in the same manner in SEPTEMBER 2017 and was sentenced to more than 20 years in federal prison. So, even if his sentence is vacated, he won’t be waiting for a new trial as a free man, even if he is found not guilty in a new trial, he will not be a free man. He’ll be serving out his 20+ year sentence in a different cage, and to my knowledge, there is no parole in the Federal prison system.
We know of at least two unarmed people Chauvin is responsible for putting in a grave, he may very well be a serial killer. If he did this before and the result was a dead boy, how can we see this as anything other than murder? Did the boy also have a preexisting health condition, a bad heart, or is it fair to assume that when you cut the blood supply to the brain off, the forecast is unconsciousness followed by widespread death.
@@dennisjohnsen7297 So true. Thank you for the info.
Nah just keep this guy. All hells gonna break loose if his conviction gets overturned anyway.
In a world where truth is ever told, this court would say that, _"There's no way this court will find for Chauvin, because the certainty that our lives would be changed forever. The threats on our and our families lives and the social ostracism that would befall us is more than we're willing to risk and endure as appellate court judges."_
a good court should risk being harmed for justice
A judge who can't take that risk needs to find another line of work right away. I hear good things about avocado farming.
Then they shouldn’t be judged. Hang up the robes
@@007kingifrit ...and other fantasies.
Being afraid is not a legal reason to keep someone in jail or to convict them.
His case will NOT be appealed.
This is the appeal of the case. You might want to delete that ignorant comment.
@@tracieroberts6323it won’t be reversed P$$$$
@@tracieroberts6323 YOU TO
Publicity be damned ,execution in plain view on a road side with the intent to kill is murder.
you're so obviously a teenager
Chauvin should be released immediately
That bastard should stay there for life
@@dorishughes4566 how viscous
No he shouldn't 😊
No matter where this trial was held he could claim he didn't get a fair trial, as these riots were all over the world not just in America.
If the Lawyers didn't write the jury questions properly nor ask them the right questions to those questions it's not the jurors fault.
“All over the world”??? 🤔
The world is a pretty big place and most of the world knows nothing about this case, not even all over the U.S., not everybody is glued to the screen 📺
Exactly!
& Yes it was global news.
doesn’t mean “everyone in the world” is interested or aware.
The conviction of Derek Chauvin makes it even clearer that cases and trials need a high level of anonymity. If the possibility of a fair trial is impossible in any venue, then there is no other recourse than to throw out the trial and release the accused to the public. 4 billion dollars in damage, dozens killed, and thousands injured. Many lost their business and are still suffering from the economic turmoil it caused. There is no place this man could receive a fair trial.
@@p.c.h.6721 Were you in a coma?
Cop lied in reports and what happened to dispatch. Add liar to his resume.
Anyone who supports George floyd is the problem
And jurors lied to get on the jury lol y’all care only about the cops lie lmao he should be in jail with Derek btw he also threatened jurors which is a felony but hey he’s blm so that saves his sorry ass
Judge Reyes is a hottie!
What I am confused about is if he gets this conviction overturned, that does not matter, he still plead guilty to federal charges.
Those federal convictions are there, no way out of them, as he pled guilty. That is predominantly why this court will rule against him, even if they do not state that as there reasons. What is the point in having a new trial, if it changes nothing has to his guilt and incarceration?
Interesting. Fine points of the law. Jurisdictional purview. Sounds like they might just be crossing t’s and dotting i’s at this point.
That's why the feds tried him, in case a republican governor gets in there and overturns the conviction or something.
Federal charges can be dismissed nitwit
where is all this fake news that he pled guilty? he didn't
I like how the defense is complaining about physical pressure.
Well, carotid sinus pressure isn't what killed Floyd. Nor was Floyd suffocated by Chauvin. His death was an accident. Brought on by the drugs he was on and the physical stress from resisting arrest. The problem is Chauvin kept him in a choke position for too long and didn't get EMS their fast enough.
@@pedanpontif An illegal choke hold remains illegal no matter what the condition of the person it's inflicted upon.
It wasn't a chokehold nor is it illegal to restrain combatants this way
@@dneal8293 His fellow and superior officers stated otherwise under oath.
Fascinating. One thing you can say about the law: it has respect for the English language. Dicing up and ferreting out meaning of words to the nth degree. It’s kind of like an Olympic wrestling match of the mind.
If people actually followed and attempted to understand our legal system, they would realize it’s the greatest system in the world. What you brought up is just one small reason why.
@@euphegenia thank you for your thoughtful reply. It inspires me to try the big NYTimes crossword instead of just the mini. ;). One of these days…
🤣🤣🤣
@@euphegenia anyone with a brainwould realize that there's no way in hell Chauvin got a fair trial.. when there's riot police ready for an acquittal.
This pos cartel Reyes is not English nor American
He is an invader Roach cartel Vargas payroll thug
Who needs jailed and deported
Why should a cop go to jail over a criminal dying of Fentanyl........makes no sense
What the hell are you talking about!
Because they needed someone to be a fall guy for the riots. They needed to get Trump out of office somehow.
When there's a video of you murdering a man in broad daylight what in hell does it matter where the trial is held. People in Texas saw the same video as the people in Minneapolis did.
@Jim Sachtjen: I did not see a murder; what I saw plain as day was a drug overdose death. Although the knee on the neck was a horrible optic it had nothing to do with the death of the unfortunate gentleman. There were copious instances of reasonable doubt that should have resulted in an acquittal.
@@davidgaugamela9801 But for many the truth is hard to hear when it's not what they want it to be.
@@davidgaugamela9801 as i stated elsewhere i am not sure if Chauvin thought he was actually following protocol by keeping the knee on...he may have thought Floyd had excited delirium, and the protocol then is to keep the person still until paramedics arrive (the move he used was in also one of the Minn. police manuals).
would have been good if Chauvin testified.
I saw, as millions of other people did, an OD.
Maybe it is time to rethink our jury system. Perhaps a literacy test would be a good start, or a minimal score on a standardized test. That way jurors would be able to separate appearances and the way they felt from reality.
This is why lawyers aren't liked. It depends what the definition of "is" is.
In all fairness, the determination as to what a combination of words and punctuations means can easily be two very different outcomes. Each law is a general statement that gets scrutinized until a finite meaning comes of it. If our process didn't work this way then one law could end up being infinitely long as to cover every situation that could possibly ever arise, including the situations that have never been thought of until a future time. Much like this post is dragging on, the same thing with written law would happen. Just doesn't make sense that way.
This attorney should have notified the court of his hearing problems in advance so proper arrangements were made.
He is a highly paid attorney lol, buy a damn hearing aid. Nobody gives a damn about his hearing 🎵 My teas gone cold I'm wondering why🎵🎻🎻🎻
Weak lawyer who needs to watch an example of a model attorney in the Robert E Abrams deposition.
Non-attorney here. But it sure felt like he was trying garner some sympathy and get an edge. The whole hearing impaired colloquy seemed unprofessional and misplaced.
that is quite literally what the man did lmaoooo
@@user-ms7fg6sd4j there are some hearing issues that can't be fixed with a hearing aid
He shoulda took the deal he’d be half way done 6 years good behavior. but nope his ego and privilege wouldn’t let him . even though his crime was on video !! goof ball
That just makes me smile. :)
His exoneration is on the body cam videos. His knee was no where near GF's neck.
@@tracieroberts6323 lol
You should check out George Floyd's toxicology report. This death was not due to so-called police brutality this was a simple overdose caused by Floyd's himself. Chauvin should be acquitted.
@@tracieroberts6323 I don't care where his knee was, he killed him and the jury convicted!! How would you like to be pinned down on the ground for over 9 minutes?? 🔊
Juror attended a march, not a protest! This is unbelievably twisted
The questionnaire asked if he attended a protest in Minneapolis. He went to a March in Washington. He was truthful 😊
KEEP HIM LOCKED UP!
I hope he gets a new trail so they can give him more time which should have been 55 years and 1 day
I don't think they've figured out that bit somehow. Chauvin should dig in and become a writer, he'd make a fortune out of this and a fortune more as soon as he's served his well deserved time. I'm all for professional Policing. Chauvin is a murderer, I've seen that with my own eyes and know enough medically to understand the cause of his death, as well as what didn't cause it.
For arresting a criminal? Give us a break. Floyd was drugged
This camera is really clear.
He never got a fair trial. They should have had the trial in Alaska. I'm serious.
And an idiot.
Even when they are caught and charged they still believe they did no wrong. Sickening!!!!!
everyone has a right to an appeal
@@commandingsteel Didn't you see the video of what they did to George Floyd? He's guilty and we all saw it!!!
@@stvbee7479 I saw the video. He was already dead. The cop didn’t kill him. He couldn’t breathe before he was ever put in car then removed immediately. If the cops would have given him narcan he might have lived. He killed him self and never cared about the woman he threatened with a knife.
They did nothing wrong, they were trying to make a simple arrest but George Floyd resisted high on drugs and overweight.
@@nicksmart7094 They had him handcuffed and in the back of the patrol vehicle, but they decided to take him out and kneel on his neck for almost 9 minutes, whilst he repeatedly shouted he couldn't breathe. And you think they did nothing wrong!!!!
Trying to get an obvious murderer released or time reduced is police is what a killer would do.This murderer should never walk around without concrete and steel surrounding him
The black man killed himself resisting arrest. The murdere as you call him because you are racist, was trying to protect you from George floyd.
So if he was trying to "murder" Floyd then why did he try to put him in the cop car and take him to the police station? You are aware that Floyd is the one who asked to be laid on the ground. Floyd died from a drug overdose of fentanyl. Chauvin had nothing to do with his death. There is not one shred of evidence whatsoever that Chauvin was racist either. The entire thing was a complete farce.
@@joeldriver3971 You walking around like you can't be George Floyd bruh. Just by your melanin dude you a target just like any other black man.Philando Castille,stopped more than 50X and shot in the chest after telling pig he had a license to carry.A conservative mindset leave one stuck on stupid
@@brianburnett118 Black people are the ones killing black people, not cops. They are 13% of the country yet are committing over half the murders and 94% of them are against themselves. Cops kill less than 20 "unarmed black males" in an average year. You don't know stats or facts.
I like this judge so far...he's cutting thru the crap expediently
Yep. Good thing this got denied lollllllll
The nerve !
Saw this coming a mile away.
Delusional police believe they are bestowed God-given ultimate authority over man is the work of Satan and Narcissism, not Romans 13 or of God!
Thousands of police officers every year are convicted of rape/other sex crimes, assault, domestic violence, murder, perjury, planting of drugs and evidence, etc... Police are as far removed from God and biblical teachings as the east is from the west!!
- QUALIFIED IMMUNITY PERVERTS HUMANITY and JUSTICE!
- Turtletruth (Semper Fidelis)...
It’s ok to lie to the court about being a blm member as long as you are on the right side. He gave that liar excuse after excuse not to mention he also threatened jurors
Pretty much all murder convictions are appealed. I don't think this is dramatic.
@@verreal I understand that most are appealed. I was referring to the matters brought up in the appeal. I apologize for my lack of clarification.
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You can disagree with how it happened, but at the end of the day we owe Chauvin a debt of gratitude for sacrificing his freedom to rid the world of a predator like Floyd.
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Everyone is allowed to be stupid in public now
Come on judge there are no racist states in America. Retrial in Georgia that'll work judge.
Where else do you think that trial could have been held in this country? The crime was seen everywhere.
Juror 52 was left on the jury by the defense just to try this stunt.
If he lied on the jury questionnaire, that is not good.
@@asianb3854 He didn't. Did you watch the video?
@@justsomeguy6474 He attended the "march" at DC in which essentially every speaker mentions Floyd and police brutality.
@@asianb3854 So you haven't watched the video. Got it. 24:46 You're welcome.
@@justsomeguy6474 It strains credulity to think that the DC march was not substantially about Floyd and police brutality. He can say (and lie) that it wasn't a "protest" concerned with police brutality, but that is dishonest.
He should be free
Amen!
Agreed! I can’t think of anything funnier than the idea of this courageous hero out from behind prison walls and in the public without a badge, gun or an army of costumed cowards at his beck and call. Be a great reality show. We can bet the over/under on his factory reset at around 9 minutes just for the sake of irony.
@@mookiewilson4166
Well said.
Why does everyone think Chauvin’s attorney was bad? I think he did well but - it’s a tough sell and he had all the right answers
An impossible sell.👍
I agree
It’s an easy sell. He literally had video footage of him ingesting a lethal amount of fentanyl. Shame on the judge and jury.
@@Nuttyirishman85 good point
@@Nuttyirishman85 I’m glad to see there are a few who agree ~ prob is not many people want to be on the wrong side of history
The only people keeping up with this case are people who think he is innocent
Yes -_-
This cop got railroaded. I grew up in Detroit, cops did this on a regular to us. Look on any episode of cops over 15 years old you'll see it a million times without fatality. This is so ridiculous the man literally swallows fentanyl on cop cam 20 minutes before his death and 20 minutes later he overdosed.
Do people really think that this was uncommon?! How precious. The difference is just that this time it was on video. There are videos of cops on people's necks but I think the amount of time he was on Mr. Floyd's neck and him remaining on his neck for minutes after Mr. Floyd had clearly become unconscious were also factors. Most people actually have a visceral reaction to watching another human being beg for air as they are forced against the pavement and killed. I wasn't surprised at all by the U.S public's reaction...I expected an even larger reaction tbh. Whether or not Mr. Floyd had drugs in his system isn't all that relevant imo. It doesn't excuse any of Mr. Chauvin's actions even people who are drug free need to breathe to survive. The whole "but he was a drug user" thing just wasn't as dehumanizing as some people hoped it would be. Take care.
@@catherinewilson9894 Good point! But Floyd was no hero. He had serious criminal charges like robbery and holding a pregnant woman against gun point.
*'The Greatest Lie Ever Sold' - Must watch!*
Just saw yesterday
Damn! Blm organization will always try to make profits on the deaths.
Wonderfully done documentary. Very educational. BLM still hasn't said where the $80 MILLION they stole from the community they were said to protect went.
Still doesn’t justify putting your knee on someone’s neck for 9minutes.. it’s not in policy or police training
@@natasia64 actually Floyd died of a Fetanyl overdose as his autopsy found he had 11ng/mL of Fentayl in his system. Regarding asphyxia, the Hennepin county medical examiner's report found "no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation".
_"No that's not true Sean, you rathist! I want to believe it was a rathist cop who killed George Floyd so stop showing me facts that prove otherwise!"_
@@sean2015 if u think that is true then u are misguided. If someone put their kneee on your neck for 9mins and stop circulation u would die too….
Supreme court is his only hope in the world.
what an absurd statement
This case isn't getting that far
The story is who's paying his lawyer fees.
Back the blue supporters
Especially since he claims he was finical broke, him and his wife didn't pay their taxes.
Kkk white nationalist
The sad thing is Derek C absolutely could not be found not guilty. There would have been billions of dollars in damage across America. It’s not so cut and dry.
No you wrong their would have been bodies
The sad thing is ... he could NOT be found not guilty because he was guilty. I know ... those pesky facts bother many.
@@conniekimble1782 except Floyd didn't suffocate. if you paid attention to the trial, during Tobin's second testimony on the Defense's side, after the final hospital records were admitted into evidence, The defense places a trap by explaining Floyd could have died by exhaust fumes. Tobin explains it was impossible, as Floyd had 98% oxygen saturation upon his death (in the hospital) and it'd require 92% to reach suffocation. Meaning, Floyd didn't suffocate.
@@pamelafranklin3452 Yes, lot's of black ones. And that's a _good_ thing.
I mean yeah, hard to say he’s not guilty when he’s guilty. God damnn facts!!!!
This animal better not get!!!!
The court should give him more years what time he got was insufficient.
This was a huge psyop plain and simple!!!
George floyde ODed
Alex Jones lives in your brain for free.
Based on...?
Reality go check out where all the Black Lives Matter funding went. I think you’ll be very interested to see where all the donations ended up.
That dude was drugged
The case was widely known. To say that the jurors had a stake because they lived in the area where the murder and riots took place and you believe the chances of a riot happening somewhere else would have been zero is a stretch. Riots would have broken out everywhere regardless.
No one can deny it - everyone has developed an opinion on this horrible event after seeing the video of Mr. Floyd die in front of our eyes! Leave it be. No place in America is going to be without bias regarding this case.
Don't take drugs and don't resist the arrest and you will be just fine
@@LanaW123 Don't keep your foot on someone's neck FOR ANY REASON FOR OVER 9 MINUTES!!
@@2024Betterthanever His knee wasn't on FLoyd's neck if you actually watched the trial.
@@picolascage5270 Additionally, if one watches the bodycam, the other knee really isn't on back -- it is on Floyd's arm.
Not all places had riots. Moving to a place without riots would have alleviated the influence of the threat of violence.
Your honor, the police treat the community like utter crap, it's not fair for his trial to be held there.
Are these people for real?
Are u dumb? The issue was the rolling riots.
Keep this cop in jail please
No, we won't, racist
@@nicksmart7094 he's staying put in prison till he is old.
Let him out
He wants a retrial ok play the video again for the judge let him see it again . Play it In slow motion too. Give his ass more time
Play video of judge at protests in Minnesota and the juror 52 wearing a shirt saying “get your knees off our necks”
Play the video of the jurors walking through the angry mob outside the courthouse.
@@ninadaly7639 what does that have to actually do with this man killing an unarmed American citizen.. lol you guys got to be kidding me. Wow
@@braylens1822 he can get a retrial but he literally killed someone on tape. The jurors didn’t do it the protesters didn’t he did and you guys are making it more complicated than it should be. I don’t understand if the cop were black and George were white I’d stand on it. This is weird as hell, have you guys not watched the video
@@braylens1822 the truth has no defense against a fool that is determine to believe a lie.
2:39 - also fyi i don’t technically have a hearing problem, but sometimes when there’s a lot of noises occurring at the same time i’ll hear ‘em as one big jumble. - NATE (the office)
I see what you did there😂😂😂
Chauvin better stay in prison. He is a monster.
Cry 😂
@@APT420we’re laughing, Derek is crying alone in a PC cell
@@APT420 Nobody is crying. He is not getting out, simp.
@@NG-cf7zh I haven't thought about him or George Floyd in a long time. Meanwhile you're over here with your head so far up in MSM that you can hardly breathe. I can't breathe! 🤣🤣🤣 sAy hiS naMe! 🤣🤣🤣
With the Nichols case he doesn’t stand a chance
What a waste of time and taxpayer money
the judges seem as if they could go either way...didn't seem wholly convinced by either of the attorneys.
The lawyer appearing for the State is just repeating the hot button rhetoric used for the last 2+ years. The rest is just about juror 52, who went to DC where the Floyd family were special guests. The term, "A necessary lie" should be the title of the whole case built against these officers, and this man in particular.
@@backdeck9978 I agree, his opening statement was so melodramatic and just a repetition of what we have heard 1000 times... and his focus on the "9 minutes 21 seconds.." (or whatever the time period was).
@@anlace3447 Just like the "You can believe your eyes, it was murder" opening statement from prosecution in the trial, the other side of that is, "You can believe the science; Fentanyl." I feel sorry for the life Floyd chose to live, but he asked five times to get on the ground after four men could not get him into the squad car. He was kicking his legs and resisting. He knew he had committed another felony. I wonder if the people who proceded to make a case anyway, and the people who decided to let violent crowds take over the city had any idea it would be this bad. Hard for them to admit and hard to reverse.
@@backdeck9978 yes, and the fact remains is, the medical examiner stated that Floyd has enough Fentanyl in his system to cause death (and we also know he has other drugs in his system, heart problems, etc.) Some drugs were even found in the squad car. Those are facts, but you raise them with some people and they will not even acknowledge them, it is like their emotions take over...they also conveniently forget that Chauvin called the medics twice. Chauvin's trial was an absolute farce, how the jury did not see reasonable doubt is ridiculous...yet, if they truly thought their family and homes would be targeted, it is understandable.. even people who testified for Chauvin have been harassed, one having pig's blood thrown on his former house...
When the judge interrupts within 2 minutes to ask a question not at issue.. it's the appellant's appeal, not the judges.. he's not going to give chauvin a fair go...
“dont do the crime if u cant do the time”
he didn't do any crime. he was the victim of public outrage from uninformed social media users and a public pent up from lockdown looking for a cause to fight
@@leejackson3268 are you stupid or something ? He killed a man on camera!
@@leejackson3268 GF was alive until they laid him out on road and chain knee was cutting off circulation and windpipe. One of the officers challenged Chavin as much as a junior officer could but Chavin didn’t shift weight on him. The ambulance arrived and he was dead…can see when they move his to board and gurney his neck flops like all my animals neck does when euthanized.
Take Chavin out of picture….GF is still alive when EMT arrives. Get real dude.
Chasing pleaded guilty in federal court!
@@jonesynahmeen9088 no, a man died on camera with him there. there is no evidence his actions contributed
@@leejackson3268 don’t be stupid and dense.
Appeal denied 😂
the appeal should not be denied. 2nd degree murder requires intent. the prosecution never even alleged intent. plus a black supremacist was on the court and didn't disclose that
HE LET A MORON CONVINCE HIM THAT HE WAS ABOVE THE LAW. HELL NO🥂🥂🥂
is your brain on vacation, pal?
I thought Chauvin said he was guilty...why the appeal now
He pled guilty on the federal charges. This is an appeal with the state’s case.
@Thief_is_my_favorite_movie what would William Barr - the then Federal Attorney General have to do with a State case?
It's called White privilege. They say they're guilty all the time and then use the appeal process to get out of jail on some technicality.
@@ThomasG84 10 years for a murder that was caught on 📼? You people are weird 🤣 William Barr wasn't ready for that smoke. Slow down taco 🌮
@@SirNic4180 William Barr was the federal attorney general not the state attorney general
I gotta say, Chauvin’s arguments aren’t enticing.
Actually if you had a brain cell, you'd realize chauvins attorney won this hands down.
@@davelinsalata8012 Really? Point me to this argument’s version of a Perry Mason moment.
chauvin was accused of 2nd degree murder. which requires intent. the prosecution did not at any point allege intent as part of the trial , by definition the prosecution didn't meet the standards for that charge
@@007kingifrit have you even read the Minnesota second degree murder statute? It specifically says “causes the death of a human being, without intent to effect the death of any person”.
@@007kingifrit Exactly!! Derek needs better lawyers.
Let's put our knee on the neck of that appeal!
Let's OD on drugs and pick fights with cops!
@@dansmith1661 for that they should be arrested...not murdered in handcuffs by suffocation under someone's knee...on camera even.
FREE DEREK
GUILTY
ONLY WATCHED FOR A SHORT TIME HOPING TO SEE CHAUVIN THE DIRT BAG! THEY SHOULD LOSE THE KEY TO HIS CELL! WHAT IS WITH ALL THE POP UP ADS?
What games are they playing, now???
Now remember he had his hands in his pockets as held his knee on a man's neck for almost 9 mons. Now he want to appeal!
Persecution. They show you zero of Floyds behaviour before, his history and his psychotic state.
Because it literally does not matter, the whole incident was shown from first contact between Chauvin and Floyd until Chauvin killed Floyd. Literally every single second was dissected in this time frame, anything before that does not hold any bearing on if Chauvin killed him or not.
Still wrong for putting knee on neck for 9minutes it’s murder. As a policeman u are there to arrest not kill unarmed man
They have yet to prove that the 20 $ bill was fake. The reason he was killed over.
because he was on a church trip trying to better his life when he just wanted to buy something from a corner store.
@@natasia64 I understand that, bit the media manipulated the hell out of this. Cops dont do that for nothing Floyd reisted ridiculously and drugs were a factor. Cops aren't mind readers nor are they physicians. We now have total lawlessness here in Australia with blks bashing innocent people, including the elderly. Did one man's misstreatment justify riots and now world-wide unrest and racism!? Of course not!
The Man lynched someone with his knee. May he rot in prison and hell
What does it take to find someone guilty of killing if not full live video. We all watched in horror as this criminal slow took the life of Mr Floyd.
Mr. Floyd 😂
Malice? An impartial jury? A jury that didn’t hear about a multimillion dollar deal made with the Floyd family? Intent?
That is a far cry from what the video showed.
He couldn't breathe in his own car. 🤣
I guess no one has seen the George Floyd story that Candace Owens had made yet. It's on Fox Nation.
How can you reference CO, who is ignorant to the facts and blinded by a lie. Everyone saw Chauvin kneeling on George Floyd's neck. The officers DID NOT follow their own training which was to roll a suspect on his side REGARDLESS. In the beginning of the arrest, they accused Mr. Floyd of being under the influence therefore they knew the protocol. Chauvin is not arguing that he followed his training he is arguing an unfair trial.
cuz no one cares about what she has to say!
Who?
The Greatest Lie Ever Sold. Good movie.
@@cocomonroeX3 floyd was a really bad guy, 9 felony convictions, maybe you should care
There is no way Chauvin was ever going to get a fair trial. I do appreciate how well the court questioned and challenged both sides arguments. However, due to the nature of this case a fair non biased outcome will never be possible. And that is sad for all.
You're fucking sad and all!
explain how it was not fair
So true
FREE DEREK CHAUVIN!!! Innocent...PERIOD!!!!💪💪💪
This is a joke. He murderer wants his damn rights honored but to hell with the man he killed...let him rot in jail
15 minutes for justice. I understand the need for time limits but 15 minutes.
If NOT for Derick Chauvin and Tao George Floyd would be alive. So sick of people defending people just because they are LE. Every single person in this country has rights. Every. Single. One. Even this POS ex cop who killed to get his jollies off. $20 will never be worth someone's life. Ever.
George Floyd is dead due to drugs.
No. He would have gone home and die anyway
Stop with the nonsense. Next time take drugs and see how it will end for you.
😶🍿...they will have 90 days to issue a ruling
Why do these courts want no recording? Are they making so many procedural errors they are afraid of proof of incompetence or bias?
Sure hope they never let this punk out.
But Floyd was no hero. How do we disregard his criminal actions? Like holding a pregnant woman at gun point during a burglary? What’s wrong with our society?
Good legal move…keep this juror to have an appeal standing. Too easy to see.
Judge Cahill did an admirable job, IMO.
As Katyal stated, he gave the defense 18 strikes on jury selection, only 15 were utilized. If the defense had any worries about juror 52, they should have used a strike there.
Doesn't change the fact the guy lied.
Hard to strike a juror who perjures himself during voir dire. I'm sure they would have struck him if he hadn't lied to the court.
The social media should 1000% be scrutinized of jury. Lol if the cops social media alone can get them fired, the social media of the jury can at least be looked at. Like it’s about being fair.
The picture of that juror was on his uncle's social media which is why it wasn't noticed immediately. If he hadn't revealed his identity by going on a podcast he would have gotten away clean with lying during jury selection. Cahill refused to do his job and hold him accountable.
FREE THIS INNOCENT MAN!
Oh please. We all saw him kill Floyd.
His knee was not on Floyd's neck!
He is not guilty of murder
Yes he is. Did u watch the trial dufus?
The attorney for the state well spoken 👍🏾
depends where your bias is, you probably read the autopsy and missed Floyd OD.
He's a big deal. He had a podcast for a while called Courtside. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Katyal
He's a deep state attorney.. He's on MSNBC all the time displaying Trump Derangement Syndrome.
@@tommas2674 autopsy did *not say od
@@tommas2674 if it was a overdose or not Derek chauvin still pick the wrong day to work and show the world the way his ancestors really lives😂🤔🤡 Derek chauvin has to deal with he should’ve stayed home that day
The guilt in this case was just so pervasive, this case just reeked with inhumanity and the idiot was so drunk on his own power he actually thought he did nothing wrong. Makes me sick...he deserves every last second behind bars and I agree Judge Cahill handled his ass fairly considering Chauvin didn't deserve the grace he was shown
I use to think like you here but after watching the entire trial I don't think this cop killed Floyd now because Floyd ate sooooo much drug's to get rid of them. He was still chewing on drug's while they were fighting. He ate enough to kill a horse. His girl said Floyd was coming in and out of consciousness because he was so high. Floyd committed a crime. Cop's were called and it was Derek's job to arrest Floyd. What was officer Derek supposed to do? Show up on official duty and say "ohhh noooo he's a man of color... I can't do my job"?
I don’t see anything presented by the appellant that makes any difference in the facts of the case. There is no new evidence presented that would suggest that the defendant would be acquitted. I see this appeal being denied.
this is only the oral arguments. Long briefs were submitted before ages before this court session. what you hear in this session is only like 10% of what was argued in the Briefs.
@@anlace3447 I understand that it’s a long process. What I’m saying is that when the defense is going to be grasping at straws for the intention of getting a new trial, there’s nothing that I can see that would make a difference in favor of the defense that a new trial would be able to present. To say that there was a juror, that the defense had every opportunity to question and challenge would make a difference in the facts of the case, or that a change of venue would make a difference in the facts of the case; I just don’t see that happening.
Only way I see anything turning out differently is if the defense can get all the evidence from the prosecution thrown out.
I would like to think that a judge would be able to make impartial decisions, but I think that we both know that if this verdict is overturned and he is given a new trial, the violent protests from the last George Floyd will probably be even worse this time and with a potato head president, there’s not going to be much help there.
@@dennisjohnsen7297 the defense did have the chance to qstn him during voi doir., but it was presupposed he told the whole truth in the questions....I do not know how that will play out...
the prosecution did argue, like yourself, that the venue did not make a difference, but the defense was right in stating that the court was surrounded by fencing, police, etc....and it can be inferred that the jury had a stake in the outcome...(not wanting riots in their area).
the alternate explanation for Chauvin and "the knee"-- Chauvin thought Floyd was suffering excited delirium, the protocol then is to then keep the offender still until paramedics arrive...(see "White Report" on excited delirium). I do not know why Chauvin did not testify, however...he should have just said "I did it for x, y, and z reasons..."
it will be interesting to see what the outcome of the appeal is.
People certainly have different opinions on this incident!
With re: Mitchell:
Mitchell was asked: “Have you, or someone close to you, ever helped support or advocated in favor of or against police reform.” Mitchell answered “No.” The march Mitchell traveled to-- "NAN’s Commitment March: Get Your Knee Off Our Necks!"" had as the first paragraph on its registration page: “Instigated from the protest movement that has risen up since the police killing of George Floyd, the ‘Get Off Our Necks’ Commitment March on Washington will be a day of action that will demonstrate our commitment to fighting for policing and criminal justice.”
@@anlace3447 i would be willing to bet that even if the defense knew that the juror did not answer truthfully, me, if I were his attorney would have probably known that this case is practically impossible to get a not guilty verdict, so I would hope that I could get an appeal based on these issues. But the reality is that unless he can get the state’s evidence kept out of a new trial, there’s nothing that the defense can produce that would support the argument that a reasonable jury would come to a different verdict. Change of venue, no, different jury, no. Only if the evidence is suppressed and the jury instructions are such that it will make a difference. The defense is wanting to present an entire new defense. Was the delirium evidence available during the first trial? Even with the delirium defense, that doesn’t justify restraining a suspect in handcuffs with a knee to the neck until he is dead. We spend hundreds of millions on training cops how to restrain a suspect. Not just the ones that comply, but the non compliant as well. If he can point out where in that delirium tactic it shows that the suspect is to be restrained by cutting off the blood supply to his brain until medical attention arrives, then he might have a case. When onlookers can see and are very vocal in telling him that he is not breathing, to say that it would be reasonable for the officer that has his knee on the neck would not be aware, but everyone else is. That’s not going to work. I saw the same thing you saw; Chauvin was not going to allow these hood rats to dictate how he was going to do his job. Chauvin’s left hand in his pocket, that’s him pushing down even more with that hand. He knew what he was doing and that’s why he should be smart enough to know that he can find himself facing a murder 1 conviction if he is given a new trial.
He’s so consciously aware of the delirium thing, but he’s not aware that his suspect is dead?
But that’s not what we’re talking about. I just see his appeal being denied because there is no evidence available today that wasn’t available during the trial, it would be reasonable to expect that the evidence presented by the state during the trial would likely produce the same verdict, and there isn’t a claim of exculpatory evidence that the state withheld from the defense.
I’m on the record for “Request denied, resubmit in 2 years for further denial.” It’s just stupid that this guy had to do what he did, and for what? A misdemeanor counterfeit charge?
It's an appeal. There are no new facts allowed.
They're probably trying to prove the jury was tainted.
This case was different you had news media and many politicians already had him guilty before his day in court. As big as this case was I don't see anyone in the state he was from not knowing what was going on. With high-profile cases it's really hard to get a fire trial nowadays.
Fire trial?
Keep him LOCKED up.... Problem solved....🤦♂
The second guy that talked didn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. He said Floyd was guilty..lol He meant Chauvin. This man is an attorney!
Um. That's the District Attorney who prosecuted Derek "Mr knee on neck" Chauvin. He knows the difference between the victim and the killer.
@@Cochise6666 he demonstrated in this video that no, he did not know the difference between the evil floyd and the hero derek chauvin. chauvin did nothing wrong btw. no evidence he killed the evil floyd
You are correct….a rare mistake my Neal Katyal!
@@Cochise6666 Neal Katyal wasn’t district attorney in state case. That was Keith Ellison who did not try the case but assembled the lawyers who did prosecute the state case.
He also called the opposing attorney "my friend" as well as "my adversary." Two distinct opposing words.
Am not a lawyer but the judge interrupting Chauvin's attorney to sideline him with a convoluted mess that took most of his 15 minutes was outrageously rude and infuriating. Chauvin's atty should have been given his full 15 minutes to present his appeal, but the judge overlooked his intrusion and should be held accountable for his poor and unfair diversion.
after watching again, I noticed that too. he started his speech, was on one topic, and this judge buts in and completely changes the topic...that doesn't seem right...
@@anlace3447i guess none of you is an attorney pr has ever appealed a case. It is standard practice. Briefs are sent in advance and questioning is a hint at where your case is weak or strong.
@@1Pushypusher aHA. That helps. Thanks for taking the time to enlighten. Did all that talk advance or detract from getting an appeal? I still wonder why DC's atty didn't get to finish his presentation. If untangling knotty questions is the sole reason for appeals, what if there are more questions than 15 minutes allows? It seems unfair.
@@melissastreeter22 that could be a valid point. However, understand that appeals are not a do over of the trial. The scope of appeals is very limited and the appeal lawyer needs to be on top of his game and master his craft. The oral arguments just serve to argue the brief that was filed on the record, which is more extensive.
Agreed