As a wilderness first responder, the kid in the second story sounds like a hypothermic victim. I e seen a scenario like this and the guy survived. Talking with him afterwards he said he fell into the river along the trailhead, and when he made it to shore he emptied his pack of contents and set them out to dry. He also removed his underwear and socks knowing they will stay wet the longest. His story after this is hazy because he was obviously suffering from hypothermia from the water. When he was found by hikers, he was a quarter mile away from his pack and his body was shutting down. If he died, it would have resembled the kid in the second story too a T. The only thing is is the guy survived and was able to explain the state of confusion he experienced after trying to get warm. In his mind he knew the path was close and he needed to get back into it, however he climbed out the opposite side of the river from the trail. His hypothermic mind wasn't making sound connections. Anytime hypothermia is a factor, weird things tend to happen.
Agreed. The whole story screams basic behaviors of hypothermia. However, it's still a mystery why he didn't stay put on the trail waiting for a negligent scout to walk by.
exactly what i was thinking especially about the fact that he took off his clothes . There are many incidents where extreme hypothermia in the final stages leads victims / survivors to take off their clothes becuz they feel super hot . its a weird phenomena . i couldn't put my finger on why got in the river but i think u got it .
@@Chewbecca101 no idea why he crossed, but I've seen the absolute mess cold can do to a human mind. I once watched a co worker wrestle a hypo victim from stepping out into thin air inside a heli transport. Fought tooth and nail to get out the bay door. Afterwards when stabilized the guy asked what we were talking about when we mentioned it. I've also seen them stick their hands in open flames to try and get their hands warm. Best thing you can do with hypo victims is expect something you've never expected.
The thought I can’t let go of is his reasoning for waiting on the trail . He wasn’t feeling well after just having rested, Something about that just sounds odd considering it was a short walk back . Maybe stepped off the trail to throw up who knows
Just remember if you make a joke and nobody gets it it's nothing personal people are asking you to explain because they think it might be funny and they want to know
Things I've learned since I started binge watching MrBallen: Never separate from your group when in the wild for any reason. Keep children under constant supervision when in or near the wild. NEVER EVER GO UNDERWATER CAVE DIVING. Do not go to places where you are told to stay away from, for any reason, especially weather. If you can't find someone, don't wait to call authorities without a good reason.
Or fly, or go on hikes, or fishing, or to the forest, or camping, or go to anything close to wilderness, or if you are have any expertise on something, you will probly die LOL
Now I'm envisioning the grandmother from The Company of Wolves, 1984 played by Angela Lansbury, "Never eat a wind fallen apple. Don't stray from the path. Never trust a man whose eyebrows meet in the middle."
He is talented for sure, BUT he works very hard being prepared, so that he sounds and if he were there. That is what pros do. Pros make difficult tasks look easy because they are prepared and, trained. Gifted always helps though!
I’ve heard that one of the last symptoms of hypothermia is an overwhelming heat flash. Jeff may have experienced this and tried to go into the river and stripped…then fell asleep and died in his sleep. I honestly hope that’s what happened instead of an evil person grabbing him 💔
I can confirm the heat flash when you have hypothermia. Back in May when I was transferred from the ICU to a regular room after a big surgery, I experienced the heat flash. It felt like I was in a flame and it’s burning inside my body. I felt that I was sweating badly, then had to “yell out” (actually whispering because I was too weak and was under effect of Motrin) and forced my husband turning the AC on. He told me couple days later that my body temperature was cold like a coprse, so he turned on the heat instead, but I didn’t know about it at that time. I calmed down and went unconscious the moment I heard/thought my husband had turned on the AC. It’s scary of how the brain can trick us to dangerous situation.
What I find interesting about that is that he put a boot back on, kept his jacket and pants on, and removed his hat. Paradoxical undressing or not. Normally when they do that, they don't put clothing back on. Did he remove his clothing for his wade into the river? Did he even enter the river? Was he wet? Did he remove his clothing because he was wet? Curious.
@@newguy3588I think he fell in the river, made it to a rock, took off his pack bc it was waterlogged and heavy, and made it to the edge of the river. He tried to find the trail as he was slowly succumbing to hypothermia, couldn’t find it. He was a scout so he probably knew to take off his wet clothes, and possibly stopped to rest and get warm under a tree. He may have started to put his shoes back on to start walking again later, but his motor skills got worse as he sat there and continued to become more hypothermic, and he decided to nap/rest before continuing to put his other shoe on. After this nap/rest, he was severely hypothermic (possibly delirious) and began to paradoxically undress as his body shut down. He died minutes or a few hours later from exposure. It seems very probable and requires no other person to interact with him. Unfortunately, he was a child in the wilderness who was possibly ill. No foul play is required for him to end up dead, just negligence from his troop.
When it comes to cases that involve children of a young age, there really should be a child psychologist involved. Not to weigh the child's mental condition but to extract more information via a structured method using drawings, etc. I'd be so curious to see how that would pan out.
I agree, a trained professional to dig out any information they can. Something is happening out in the woods and seemingly only children really survive. Some adults/you g adults do as well though its rare and even then they don't remember a thing.
That's a great idea. When I finally spoke up about my sexual abuse that's the first thing requested and done. I didn't understand then why we drew and played certain games but it's really a sub conscious effort of extracting truth versus imagination and rationalizing it.
@@A-bit-Shifty I feel like the reason some ppl can’t remember how they got there is because whatever took them had a way of clearing their memory but with such a little kid they know it’s not a big deal idk
@@CottonCxndy yeah. Maybe its assumed that whatever a child says will be taken with a very large grain of salt as just kids wild imaginations? Either way, something weird is happening out there and it can't all be explained as easily as some people suggest.
Throwing this theory for Jeff. This is mainly becouse I have been in simmilar situations. Take into account he was not feeling well. He had not been feeling well, he kept falling behind. Now I think he had diarrhea/ stomach pains. Hiking with people it's difficult to brake off to use the bathroom, maybe he was holding it in as much as he could but he lost the battle. He sat down as a last resort to hold it in. He convinced the scout leader to let him sit for a min, maybe the scout leader figured it out and let Jeff have a frew mins of privacy. As soon as the group is out of view he takes off into the woods to relive him self. Well running didn't help and he partially soils him self. He panics and takes his sock off to use as toilet paper. It helps but his undies are ruined. He makes a quick decision to enter the river in an attempt to wash his body/ save his cloths. He takes his pack out on the rock to get a new change of clothes while washing himself down their. It gets real cold fast and he needs to get out. He leaves his items out in an attempt to return. He dries off, maybe he is a little disorientated form the whole thing, and wants to go and check on the group so no one worries, he'll come back for the items once they dry more. He gets lost and becomes very hypothermoc. He sits down and succumbs to the cold/ internal condition.
Jesus Christ. That’s such a ludicrous, stretched out theory. It makes the theory that Bigfoot kidnapped him much more likely. He went through that much trouble just to take a fucking shit? Are you fucking kidding me?
@@enshk79 apparently you've never been a kid, your thinking "wow he went through all that to take a shit" yes yes he would. Shitting your self is social suicide for kids, sure as adults we don't care and get over it if it happens but not for kids that social anxiety and angst. Take into account everything, slow pace, missing socks, location found, his odd request to sit in the middle of the trail when they are right next to the exit. And your best answer is Bigfoot or some random stranger nabbed him? Lmfao
The 2 year old said their were animals watching him, that seems to be a common theme with these 411 cases. The fact that the hunting dog refused to track him is very strange to me. Thank you Mr.Ballen!!
Yeah, the animals watching him from behind the trees but not approaching him sounds really similar to other stories, especially considering Jack somehow ended up miles away from where he used to be seemingly with help from something else.
Makes me think of the changeling stories, like Jackie was mimicking the thing behind the trees.. because he WAS the thing behind the trees and the real Jackie was never found 😦
I'm tellin' you dude: these kids keep running into cryptids in the 411 stories. In vid 14 of this series the first 2 kids sounded eerily of skinwalkers and the first one here sounded like bigfoot. Like wtf??
In the second story he said that Jeff told the scout master he wasn’t feeling that well and that’s why he wanted to sit down. What if he was exposed to a poisonous plant or something and started hallucinating, which eventually caused him to do all those weird things....
Hypothermia will make a person feel like they are hot, that explains why his clothes were off. Not sure why he went off the trail though. I do like the idea he was hallucinating due to being exposed to poisonous plants. That could’ve made him panic and run away getting him lost.
First initial reaction was I’d figured he’d left off the path from a bear or predator... being chased to a stream where animals normally won’t pursue into water and he left his pack as a distraction while going upriver you’re avoid the problem...
What comes to mind with these forest stories is The Happening. That movie with Mark Walburg bc like in the movie the plants make people sick and disoriented .. And on a different note with all the boy Scouts stories my money is sadly on these scout masters based on the unfortunate abuse charges that have come out in past several years 😥
I've read that children have the ability to communicate with plants and other forms of life (The Secret Life of Plants, great book). Maybe this has something to do with it?
@invisiblechallenge why don't you start to try and build one? I'm sure in this pandemic a lot of people are bored but you would be doing good or even design it on paper and post it to a place where drones are built
I think the Boy Scout Jeff may have ran away from his group intentionally. For some reason he probably was distraught from his own life. It’s possible that he may have had a minor depression and decided to runaway. If he endured the cold nights it’s possible that he eventually went insane. That usually happens when people get lost. He did some odd things like emptying the contents of his bag and neatly placing the items to show off his odd behavior. He then goes and picks spot for where he wanted to die. I think he was suicidal.
When I hear stories like the one with Jeff, I understand why my Scoutmaster always insisted that our troop never split up. In a situation like the senior scout and Jeff, our Scoutmaster would have selected someone to stay with both or would have waited for each. Whenever our SM or Assistant SM would tell us never to leave anyone alone under any circumstances, there was always something in their expressions and voice that always made me take this very seriously.
Probably cause they've experienced scouts getting lost. The voice of someone who speaks from experience is always the one you seem to listen to the most, you can really hear the difference.
That last story reminded me of something that happened to me about 20 years ago. I and a buddy were out camping. We realized we forgot to put ice in the cooler. Buddy said he would go into town and grab a couple bags. He walked about 10 minutes up the path to the parking lot, and took off. I heard him start up the truck and pull out on the gravel. The trip would take him about 2 hours, we were pretty far out. About 30 minutes later, my buddy comes walking into the camp from the opposite direction, from the woods. He stops and looks around, and says "why did you move the camp?" I looked at him funny and said "uh, dude, I didn't move anything...and did you get the ice?" He looked back at me, and I noticed his eyes looked...dead. Like, no soul in them. He frowned and said "Oh, sorry. I forgot." And turned around and walked back into the woods. I stood there scratching my head. About 1 1/2 hours later, I hear the truck pull back up into the lot, and a few minutes later, my buddy showed up with the ice. Baffled, I told him what happened, he said he's been in town for the past two hours, and never came back here in that time. The person who came out of the woods was wearing identical clothing, same haircut, same everything as my buddy. Just that his eyes looked creepy. To this day I have no idea what actually happened.
Netflix would ruin it . UA-cam is good, gets straight to the point. Tv shows drag out for shock value and repeat the same information like 5 times before moving on .
There is a really good movie by the guy who wrote the books. It's on one streaming media or another and its called missing 411. You might have to do a little digging because there is a couple with similar names. The good one is very "documentary" and has the actual author. It's really good!
The child that went missing at a picnic reminded me of when my parents were telling me a story about my dad. When he was a kid, my dad, his mom and other family members went to this place where they had a family outing, the children played and the adults socialized and prepared the food. As my dad was playing, he secretly went into the bushes without his mom and them knowing. These people with two children ( I forgot how they were described ) walked up to my dad, and the female ( mother ) tried to hold his hand, but he didn’t want to go near them, I guess they wanted him to come with them but he didn’t want to, instead he walked back to where his mom and them were and he never saw those people again.
missing 411 has a lot of cases involving young children disappearing in strange circumstances in the wilderness ,some sound similar to others ,when you realise that its tough to believe that its all coincidence ,i personally believe its something to do with sasquatch/bigfoot ( from what the children say If they are found )and also from eyewitness reports of hairy humanoids carrying what seems to be a child (in some cases) .
"It's just not normal human behavior to get up in the middle of the night and run 14 miles through a swamp." The mental image of this made me laugh a little too hard.
It wasn’t night when he started out with the dog……. I’m a runner, 14 miles IS a long way and much, much tougher doing cross country running…through a forest, let along a swampy bog…. Mr. Ballen didn’t say if he had any injuries, but running full tilt for 14 miles, through slippery boggy swampland , regardless of a burst of adrenaline, while carrying a shotgun …IS nigh on impossible , PERIOD….But to do it without falling and injuring yourself the very first mile…is…inconceivable.
@@andrewmartin5622 Aren't you a Goose, though? Your kind normally float on water, so I can't imagine a Swamp being much worse, especially with your lighter body weight, and because you can fly. ... ... ... ... ... I hope it's obvious enough that I'm kidding.
"Adrenaline" really hits home for me. It troubles me of how easily our fear can be used by a malicious person. Born and raised in a deeply rural area, fond memories of my childhood spent camping with friends and cousins. Far from houses, pitch black new moons; one of our favorite activities was to disappear and "stalk" each other. Tip: If you find yourself isolated and pursued by someone with bad intentions, hide low and wait until night. When things are dark, stop running. Turn about and begin stalking the bad guy. We have an ESP type of awareness when someone is following or watching us. Bad guys are also scared of things that go bump in the night. The simple action of turning the tables and becoming the stalker, often, is enough to induce a panic attack and paralyze them with their own fear. For good measure, randomly throw a rock so that it lands about 20 or 30 feet from them. Almost guaranteed, you will not spend the next day running and hiding.
@@andrewlol717 i mean adults are always cofident and most likely always gonna find a soulation to stuff wihich can et u in more danger if u wonder so far off to random creatures in the woods and kids they dont really understand whats happening they might be scared but they arent gonna move and try to find a soulation
@@sendmorerum8241 well yea the kids would run deep intot he forest but then stop at some point knowing their lost and cant do nothing unlike grown up they will still go deeper into the woods tryna find a differnt way to get out
Because adults remember clearly. Children cannot, and will not be taken seriously. I also believe it has to do with puberty, a 14 year old boy was found dead. But an 11 year old boy was found alive, and explained after walking 33 miles in less than 24 hours that animals were watching him behind trees and following him.
I have a theory for the boys out story: the boy was not feeling good because he had to go to the bathroom, he was embarrassed to say so, he left the trail to relieve himself and got lost. It was cold, and before you die from hypothermia you go nuts and you also feel warm. That’s why often people will make decisions that make no sense and remove clothing.
That is a good theory. My other idea was that a bear, cougar, or some other animal showed up, and he backed away off the trail from it. The items on the rock in the middle of the water make sense if he went there to keep away from the animal. He took off his clothes to swim to shore for something, because he did not want to get them wet. (Sharp stick? Wood to burn?) Then the cold got to him before he swam back.
Jeff's case sounds like he went into a delirious state. The fact he said he wasn't feeling well, maybe a spider bite or most likely ate some berries he shouldn't have eaten.
I jumped on that idea too, but someone pointed out that he obviously just got sick, had diarrhea, and was desperately wanting privacy and distance from the group to wash his drawers. He may have avoided being labeled as the kid that shit his pants on the hike the next school day, but was it worth it...Sadly, most teens would still choose chancing death to utter embarrassment amongst their peers.
As an eagle scout, I have been in similar situations, if you so much as walk off a trail. It is SO easy to get off a "well marked" trail depending on how difficult the trail is. When i was 14 as a life scout, we went on a 7 mile hike with my troop, and my SCOUTMASTER and collectively ALL of us took a wrong turn and ended up going on a 13 mile hike.. fun..
Lol my troop went on a hike, I didn’t personally go but apparently one of the scout masters walked off from the group and went up the wrong trail No one has let him forget it
Who are scoutmasters in reality? Are they highly trained survivalist with years of back country experience or Army Special Forces/ Rangers? Navy Seals or Marine Recon? Nope they are average adult males who sell insurance, work on cars, cut hair.... Not to say some of the above dont become scoutmasters but they are rare, most are average men motivated to help boys learm some life lessons and self sufficiency
Regarding Story #2, The Appalachian Trail draws plenty of sociopathic and psychopathic predators of men, women, and children. They are some of the scariest monsters because they look like someone you might see at the grocery store, or someone you might have met in college or in the service, or someone who might have been a neighbor, etc.
The Appalachian trail is inhabited by 100s of "feral men", especially in the more isolated parts, and most range from unstable to 100% insane. Many are fugitives from the law, soldiers who have gone AWOL, deranged hippies, or national park rangers who have simply lost their minds. They're capable of practically anything for any reason, with motivations that we would consider entirely irrational or illogical. My property is adjacent to the Smoky Mountains national park and one such "feral man" lives in a cave not too far from our home and he's peaceful and usually friendly. He just wants to be left alone, but every once in a while, if he really needs something or gets extremely bored, he'll show up and ask for something or he'll just sit and talk (his speech has become broken and he's not entirely understandable anymore). Last month he came by and showed me that his coat was badly damaged, so I gave him an old set of BDUs, coat, boots, some basic supplies, and a crank-powered radio. He was appreciative and thanked me repeatedly. I'm not sure exactly what he did, but I think he accidentally harmed someone badly a long time ago, and then he fled into the wilderness to escape arrest. The stories he has though, they'll make you question a lot of things. The guy has seen some crazy sh-t while living in the wild, some really shocking, even supernatural things.
I'm not far from the trail either... grew up around these mountains... Don't forget smugglers (including drugs AND humans)... AND moonshiners. Mostly, it's a unilateral "Don't start nothing and there won't be nothing"... BUT they don't tolerate strangers or intruders well. There's a lot of the trail that just isn't seriously patrolled regular... AND the authorities literally CAN'T keep up after all the available weirdness. You hear stories that sound ridiculous, but it's often about a favorite spot for anything from still-sites to rendezvous points for God only knows what... SO it's not always healthy to get too damn curious. AND I don't care how "easy" a trail section is supposed to be. Don't EVER split up or leave anyone behind alone. Keep something to defend yourself wherever you go. You don't necessarily need a gun, but HAVE something... a hammer, a ball bat, walking stick (you'll see they're pretty popular actually... for reasons), even a damned ol' golf putter's a deadly weapon if you know what you're about... You just don't know who you could run upon when the Appalachian Trail runs from Georgia all the way into Canada with a criss-crossing mish-mash of game trails, logging roads and wagon trails... blind waterways and run-offs... rock-falls, and who knows what all, and it can change and shift at any time without notice, so just because you've been there a year ago, doesn't mean it's going to be anything like you friggin' remember. You've been warned. ;o)
The first story reminds me of one that happened here in 2016. It was in January and normally it’s pretty cold here in the winter,but sometimes we will have a few warm days. One warm day a grandma took her 4 year old granddaughter and 2 year old grandson walking down a trail in the woods. The little girls shoe came untied and the grandma bent down to tie her shoe and when she turned back around the boy was gone. After looking for him for a certain amount of time the grandma called the police. There was a huge search with so many volunteers. It stayed warm for two more days and then after that it got very cold. The next morning after the first cold night they found the boy a couple of miles away from last being seen lying up against a large machine (something like a tractor I think) he died from the cold. Volunteers said they searched that area very well the days before. Some people accused the family of foul play,but the police said there’s no signs of that and that they personally know the family (it’s kind of a small town here) and they would never do anything like that to just please leave the grieving family alone. I was pregnant with my daughter at the time and I had nightmares for awhile from that.
@Emma Rose I hear you, I am just the same cannot even watch the ads that depict cruelty, I know they are raising money for good causes but they just break me.
@@chipsthedog1 not really for a good cause. They were predatory and use the money to pay for salaries and lobby against hunting. The bets thing you can do is donate to your local shelter
@Emma Rose Same here. The moment he said the other guy was seen carrying his shotgun and walking with Sammy into the woods I was like, "Oh hell no" and immediately came to the comments.
11:25 Could be a case of paradoxical undressing. Where when someone gets so cold they're body tricks them into thinking they're actually over heating and they start taking their clothes off.
Indeed, living in the Dakota's we are quite familiar with this situation. Many a police officer who moved here from the South has been fooled into believing a death by hypothermia was a sex crime when they find a naked lady in a ditch or on the side of the road after a storm, her car may be just a few yards away, she left to try and find help and froze to death, one of the end stages the brain is confused and she believes she is so hot the must disrobe to cool off, then naked in the snow she dies. We who grow up around the subzero winters have heard about this, and many have seen it in the days before cell phones and 2 way radios.
#3 - Jackie. Just wanted to note that this has the same kind of thing happening to Jackie as happened to another of your stories. Young child, disappears, animals surround him at night but don't come close, appears miles away from where he was lost. Only difference was one just kept sleeping under trees and the other a giant leads him through the forest.
I know nothing about Eagle Scout but I was wondering if the buddy system existed back in the 70's or if maybe it was something enforced after this kind of thing happened? Or maybe they were more lenient?
@@Jaqueli9er I don’t know when it was implemented in Boy Scouts, so you might have a point there. I was a scout in the early 2000s. We were never not within eyeshot or earshot of another person. Specifically for instances such as this.
I was with a church group at a Boy Scout camp and the buddy system was heavily enforced. couldn’t even go to the bathroom, which was within sight of all the camp sites, alone Then I went with my troop to the same camp site and they were way more lenient and I walked up to the riflery range, at least a quarter of a mile away from the main part of the camp and way out of anyone’s sight, by myself. Turned out I was the only scout that chose riflery at that specific time
@@brasstacks1991 Earliest reference I could find was 1942. But, that's just when it was mentioned in print - could be older. It seems such common sense.
Scouts use the buddy system and they messed up big time! The boy wasn't feeling good and by no means should have been left alone. Very sad and avoidable. 😖
I agree! Not possible. Senior scout not finished eating ? Too strange. And since when do scouts need huge packs for a short hike? Too many questions even prior to the mystery. Sorry. The pre- mystery factors are more out of the ordinary than the occurrences .
Such a simple and wholesome channel... no gimmicks, no goofy humor or shooting your friends with paintballs or darts, no explicit content...ITS AMAZING!!!
@@Candlewick14 explicit as in no using sex to sell his stories, no nudity involved in his stories.. and he doesnt show the horrific pictures that go along with the True stories.
@@daniellehall4124 I've seen some pretty scary photos on this channel. People boiled or steamed alive. People stranded for three weeks in the dark in underground caves. Demons. Big foot. Serial killers. I mean, that's explicit content dude. What were you watching before?!
Cory's story is just terrifying. Something was after him, something awful, something I don't ever want to run into, something I hope no one else runs into. I don't blame Sammy for not wanting to go back in there. That amount of distance, especially considering we aren't talking about someone who'd never been in the woods before so he wouldn't be easily freaked out or hear a noise and overreact. He would know the normal sounds throughout the forest and the not normal sounds. He must have been so freaking scared. Noooooope.
Seeing dude could have enlisted for a war a year later, I'm guessing the scoutmaster didn't feel he had to treat him like a toddler. Letting a 2 year old wander around the edge of the woods or swamp unwatched is a little different from leaving a 16 year old scout on a trail, only 10 minutes from the destination, and 5 minutes from the trailing scoutmaster. Since dude was sick and seemed to want privacy, he likely shit his pants and went of the trail to clean up/wash up, which was a bad choice it seems.
Meh... Jeff was 16 y/o (not exactly a little kid) so I don't necessary fault the Scoutmaster. When I was in the Scouts in the early 1990's, any 16 y/o Scout would be considered almost an adult and most likely was a troop leader and had a lot of outdoor experiences and responsibilities.
It’s called schizophrenia and it’s an actual mental illness, you just start doing things that make no sense to anyone but to your brain it does, and the most common thing you do is abandon everything you have and you just start walking away from where you started for hours and maybe even days, it’s very frightening once you wake up from an episode of schitz and can sometimes scare you enough to give you a heart attack
@@ScholarlyCynic it’s just reported as a death with no cause if they’re never found, because that’s all you can put of the final police report if theirs given no evidence other than an abrupt disappearance
I would love to see an episode of your takeaways from telling so many stories! Like patterns, similarities, thoughts, ideas, themes you have found and theory’s you’ve put together on the strange dark and mysterious
In the last two cases, panic is what killed them. The elements only helped out. Both cases have classic signs of the hysteria exhibited by some who find themselves lost. It is a very real, documented phenomenon where normally level-headed people will cast off the very items they need while tearing through the woods trying to get themselves "unlost." I'm writing a book on outdoor survival for families... well actually two books - one for the parents and one for the children. One of the points I make in the book is that "lost" is a psychological entity. Picture yourself traveling in the woods for whatever reason: You're walking along. Everything is fine. Two minutes later, you look around and aren't sure exactly where you are. A little doubt creeps in. You keep walking, either trying to backtrack or to keep going. Two minutes further, you are convinced you are lost. What changed in those four minutes? Only your thought process. Your state of mind. I grew up in a remote area in the Adirondacks. I spent a large proportion of my time in the woods and I got "lost" on several occasions. I've been there - physically and psychologically. It's scary as hell. As a child I was taught to stop and build a campfire if I got lost, and every time I got mixed up, I did so. Never even lit any of them. The process of gathering fuel and setting up the fire took my mind off my main predicament for a bit; it provided the comfort of knowing I had a heat source; and it kept me in one place long enough to figure out where I goofed up my navigation situation. Every time I was lost, I got home the same day unassisted. In closing, I will quote my late Uncle David, a master woodsman - "You can't get lost if you don't care where you are." Be safe!
It is said that people taking their clothes off when freezing it is not a rare occurrence. If you have ever been out in the cold too long you'd know that certain parts of your body feel extremely hot, they call this "paradoxical undressing."
It is like some people who try to climb Mt. Everest or other Mt. and start getting crazy and try to remove their clothes. It,s like their body does not feel the cold.
Is there any other way around? Often when my body hits with extreme sunlight after a while it feels like the skin which is exposed to sunlight is freezing.
@@dontworryaboutit4255 "Swimming after getting undressed doesn't make a whole lot of sense." Maybe not in this context, but nude swimming *is* a thing.
If you haven't noticed, this guy likes to spin scientifically proven or fairly obvious solutions with "aliens moved them 20 miles into the woods" or "they were running from bigfoot". Even the sources he lists usually have the solution of what happened, but he leaves those parts out of the video.
I feel like a lot of these stories about kids being found outside of the estimated radius could boil down to near-kidnappings. I feel like someone (the person peering behind the tree) beckoned him out, he followed, and they walked together to where he was found. And then he either changed his mind or he decided it wasn’t worth all the hassle with the search party and he leaves him. At least that’s where my mind goes.
This is exactly what I think happened. An abductor picked up Jackie and then for some reason - hassle, conscience, lost the kid - left him at the power plant. 2 year olds are not tall and that trek through the swamp would've left him wet and muddied... unless he was carried. Or teleported.
This year has been a great year for crossovers (so many people I didn't think would have gotten together to talk and whatnot), so let's hold out some hope!! If they did a collab honestly I think it'd be great for the both of them. Especially since ballens stories feel true (its not all reddit horror stories, he likes some truth in there). It seems like that would be important to Paul :^)
My dumb ass missed the part about Sammy being a dog, and so I imagined her as a young woman wandering around the woods. And I was very annoyed they didn’t just ask her what happened to Cory. Also, all these stories of children going missing and being watched, but not harmed and even guided by these unnamed animals are just too similar to be a coincidence.
So true on the children part. Really reminds me a bit of a concept in the manga berserk. In there an elf explains that people rooted deep in the physical world (so to speak) can't perceive elves. With children being too young to have a "steady" worldview, who knows if they may be able to experience and perceive things, we all have long forgotten when growing adult. Its also kinda telling how the younger kids are the more they tend to have imaginary friends. What if there is something in this world that most of us humans have lost connection to due to our upbringing, technology or way of live? Just slme food for thought.
Maybe it was a bigfoot Knows it sounds silly but is possible. Also the idea of elves could be possible. They definetly believe in them in Iceland , and the Irish too believe in faries,etc. These stories are ancient , just like some of the native american legends of skin walkers, sasquash, etc. There may indeed be something to the tories. Funny thing is, my late father would sometimes referr to cotton tail bunnies, chipmunks , or other small creatures as "The little people". Now my dad was german, not irish, so why he called them that don't know. Do know that some of the relatives were foresters in the Schwarzwald, so maybe that's were that comes from.
Every day I wake up after an eerie night, I sit in the shower at 6 am and promise myself “I’m not gonna watch Ballen at night anymore”. It’s 8:15pm and I’m here. This is the fifth night in a row.
I feel that way too. I live in a ranch house (one floor), and I have a window that looks right at my bed. So every night before I fall asleep, I shine my phones flashlight into the window to “scare off any perverts”
All they had to do was tell everyone to stop and wait. It would teach the kids that it's good to care about everyone in the group and to not leave others alone in the woods.
The adult leaders should have NEVER left a kid alone on a trail, doesn't matter what the kid said. His parents left him in your care and you left him alone. As a result a child is dead. Inexcusable.
@Frank Szálasi get some fucking help , seriously... Not every child has the same effect it’s not the same children have personalities certain characteristics etc...they’re not toys wtf give birth and then you can speak on it !
It’s weird to me the search parties in the second story didn’t immediately check the river. If you get lost, one of the best places to go is a water source. Everyone should know this, especially park rangers.
I've been binge watching this list of Missing 411, all day, this is video number 15, I've watched, and I've noticed something interesting about the children; 1) they tend to be around two years in age 2) they tend to be found great distances and even treacherous terrain or circumstances away 3) if they remember anything at all, or are willing or able to tell anything, it almost always has something to do with either a) an animal helped them b) animals were watching them/surrounding them c) something nonhuman was helping them So odd, definitely shows we do not know or understand half of what goes on in this World.
the things i saw when i was little made zero sense a lot of times as well as the dreams i had were waaayy too graphic for a kid my age, ive seen what ghosts fully look like, ive spoken to something that lives in dreams and ive heard things in the woods that made me go full fight or flight mode i still never knew what it was that did that
@dominoxheartsyouxnot theres natural cave systems around the US that are interconnected and are usually right near where many many people go missing, theres something in the caves that goes after people
You do know Missing 411 was written by a man who was given the choice of quitting or being fired as a police officer, who thinks all abductions are done by Sasquatch, continues to claim people who have been found living or dead are still missing and cannot grasp the fact that people disappear in the wilderness through misadventure, on purpose, sheer stupidity and occasionally are helped to disappear by four footed carnivores or two footed assholes. David Paulides is not to be believed.
a lot of the kids also are found with their clothes messed with meaning undressed or partially and with only one shoe on positioned in weird ways never finding an obvious cause of death pointing towards faul play
Jacky said that the person he was following was a giant but considering he was only 2, any normal human being (5'10"-6'2") would look like a super big giant to him 😳
My mother who grew up in extreme poverty in mexico,has told me stories of “duendes” or elfs that would appear to her as a child when they would play in the woods.
I find these things fascinating. I’m from the US however I’m intrigued by other cultures and beliefs. I’m also a believer in if so many say it then there has to be some truth to it. I would LOVE to hear your families stories!!
@Michelle many tribal people in Canada and the states also have stories of small people. and also stories of hairy giants. we are not the only ones around
Btw, for anyone wondering why Jeff was taking off his clothes; a symptom of hypothermia is starting to feel super hot, and ripping your clothes off to “cool down”
yeah i'm thinking he started hallucinating because of hypothermia and thought he felt better and could still make it and knew it wasn't that far (i think the guide and he mos def talked about not being that far off.) Disoriented + the hallucinations.... recipe for bad things to happen, especially in the wild... still sad tho
Ok what if he was being chased the gunshot did nothing so he took off his shirt and threw it down (like you do with cougars) to distract it for a sec got hyperthermia and then got rid of the rest of his clothes when he felt too warm.
When a person is freezing to death, the muscles that are keeping the blood in the body's core get exhausted and just let the blood flow back out to the extremities and skin. This makes the person feel hot and they'll take off their clothes. It's called "paradoxical undressing." Extreme hypothermia can also cause confusion, which might explain taking everything out of the pack and laying it out.
Or he and his backpack fell into the water so he took everything out of it so it could dry out then confusion from hypothermia from falling into the water caused him to walk away from his pack. Took off gloves, socks, and hat because they were wet. After awhile, paradoxical undressing, which is when hypothermia causes you to get an extreme heat flash right before dying, caused him to try and take his coat and pants off right before or as he died. Looks to me like a no-doubt case of hypothermia, IMO. Poor kid. He was let down by those who were supposed to make the safe & life saving decisions by being allowed to be left alone in the wilderness.
After watching so many of Mr. Ballen's 411 videos, I almost hope what the children are saying about these creatures is true because if we factor in the obvious fact that they couldn't have covered these distances alone, the obvious non-paranormal alternative is, in my opinion, far more disturbing. We have decades of research that demonstrates children have a tendency to suppress traumatic memories in favour of constructed ones they're better psychologically-equipped to understand. The idea is that the child can more readily integrate what happened into pre-existing schema and hopefully address the trauma with the few rudimentary coping mechanisms they have at their disposal, preventing their fledgling personality from completely derailing this early in development.
Also, kids are raised to stay away from strangers. Now what should a little kid do when they hear a bunch of strangers walking towards them yelling their name? Its possible the kid could see them as dangerous.
If one foolishly believes in the "paranormal," then one is subjecting itself to a realm that's in their own heads, and not in a sound, reasonable, rational place.
Yes, as a former child care worker, I can tell you children can go far fast. They can run faster than we can and easily disappear before we can even blink.
@@grandcatsmama3421 My little grandson, 3 years old, can run like a scared deer. Amazing how fast he is, I cannot keep up with him. In just a very short time he could cover at least 1/4 mile.
@Couple screws Loose Sorry, but you're wrong. Playing around in the woods, I've had many a little one make way faster time than me. They're smaller, making them able to duck under things I would have to climb over. They're light weight, so they can skitter across logs that would collapse under my weight and across mud that would sink me up to my knees. And their tiny feet can take them through paths way too narrow for me to pass. I would race my niece and nephew up and down the driveway, beating them every time. But, trudging through the swamp on an "Archaeology expedition", or "hunting dinosaurs", even a professional woodsman like me struggled to keep up. And with my current health, there's no way in hell I'd be able to catch a toddler that decides to take off; like my 3 year old cousin who decided to follow a bird a few years back. She saw a bird when we were hiking and bolted away from the group a good 500 feet off the trail into the woods. Her dad and mom were only halfway to where she had stopped when she got back to them. She had stopped because she got distracted by a flower; which she picked and gave to her daddy.
@Couple screws Loose Oh, I agree she was carried. I'm just saying kids that age are faster than most adults especially through terrain like that. The condition she was in and where she was found makes it obvious she had to be carried there.
My theory about Jeff from the second story: When Jeff said he didn't feel well, he meant that he had diarrhea. So before the scout master came down the trail, he couldn't hold it and went into the woods to relieve himself. Then he got lost. This explains why his pants were undone and also maybe why his socks were off. He may have gotten something gross on his socks and took them off because of that. He may have been washing his stuff in the river because he was embarrassed about showing up to his troop smelling like that. That's my theory at least :P
Makes sense to me. That or something similar could easily have happened. Jeff steps off the trail to relieve himself, gets turned around, and heads down hill like a good scout. He finds the stream, decides to follow it, but is tired, takes off his pack and puts it on the rock, fully intending to come back for it later. Unfortunately, he's so tired and lost, he never does. Exhausted, shivering, maybe having fallen in the cold water, he slumps against a tree.
or maybe someone took his bag and placed it in the river. In an attempt to get it back he may have taken his socks off and tried to swim out to it, but was taken by the current ... or maybe he thought the water was too cold and gave up
He could have become delirious afterwards and succumbed to hypothermia. People suffering from severe hypothermia enter a stage where they begin to take their clothes off and he might have just done that
The theory that Jeff had diarrhea is plausible to me. I was sick once and had lost so much fluid too fast and my body shut down. This could’ve happened to Jeff. He could have walked off trail and tried to clean up in the river. Being disoriented and lost, his body was further taxed and he succumbed to the elements. Good theory Dorian Flednam.
I think Sammy ran off on Cory and Cory wandered so far searching for the dog. Losing your buddy’s dog would certainly get you to wander through “impossible” terrain.
it doesn't explain standing in the swamp water long enough to freeze to death in one night, when there's a trail close by. I really think the only reasonable explanation there is that he was hiding.
@@straecat I’m pretty sure the mortician can check to see if there was adrenaline pumping through their body because when you die, it can’t get absorbed back into the bloodstream and I’m wondering why they didn’t check for that. I definitely feel like he was hiding
Sam was Jim's dog, the dog was found a couple days later. The dog was well trained . The dog passed about 3 years ago. That blue SUV I sold to Jim. This story isn't as mysterious as told, it's sadly something that happens a few times a year.
@@richardleach1706 isn't it weird that we just accept the fact that several times a year, in every part of the country, people just go missing under some very weird circumstances? I've spent enough time out in the middle of nowhere to know how fast things can go south but seems like it's just way too often and way to weird. It's bad enough when a hiker goes missing and they find a body at the bottom of a cliff he was hiking past and deduce he must've slipped and fell. But all these stories where people disappear and end up 10-15 miles away and have no memory of how they got there... Wtf
Can't tell a story with something's name when that something doesn't exist. Bigfoot is nothing but a myth, another tall tale told by boring old men who had nothing better to do that day, and chose to make up ghost stories.
My theory for the second story. Is that after Jeff sat down he realized he was out of water so he went to that river to fill his canteen. He then fell into the water getting his clothes, socks/boots, and pack wet. He then put his pack on the rock and took everything out to see what was wet and continued to leave them out to dry. Meanwhile he was still wet, so he went to the tree and took off his wet socks and loosened his clothes so they would not stick to him so he wouldn’t get hypothermia. But in the end died from exposure. Feel free to critique anything that doesn’t fit with your thoughts
LOL. He was out of water 10 minutes from the destination and, being sick, felt it a good time to break with the pack (rather than ask someone for a bit of water). It is obvious dude was sick, shit his pants, and wanted privacy to wash up before seeing his schoolmates again. The scout code doesn't include not gossiping at school the next day that Tony, or whoever, shit himself on the hike.
@Lilith Kenis, so, Sasquatch likes to play hide & seek with tiny humans. Nice. And Sasquatch likes to test medium size humans willpower. Curious. But Sasquatch likes to hunt large humans with shotguns ! Dark.
@@huskythrone869 my thoughts; the guy in the third story may only have had bird shot with him. For whatever reason he spots a Sasquatch, the Sasquatch charges, or acts agressively,possibly in response to a warning shot? The hunter realizes he ain't got enough gun, and flees. At some point he throws away the heavy but useless shot gun, maybe to show the Sasquatch he means no harm? But it's too late. He hides in the tall grass like all the other prey, waiting for the cavalry that never arrives.
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With #2, another possibility is that he was experiencing some sort of cardiac event. As someone born with a common cardiac defect, I speak from experience - when things go awry (often during sustained physical activity), at first you feel uneasy, weak and very hot, even in cold environments. Then unless you get treatment your ability to think coherently, coordinate your limbs (which ultimately go numb), and even see, steadily declines until you eventually lose consciousness. Children usually have little experience recognizing the symptoms, may feel embarrassed voicing them, or simply not have the strength or brain function to articulate what's happening. This could explain why he had to stop on the spot so shortly after resting - his cardiac state would not tolerate exercise. Sitting did not help this time and feeling rising panic and confusion he tried to get up and make his way to an adult but couldn't orient himself, and was simply incapable of calling out. He would have been acting in a confused, dreamlike state made worse by rapid hypothermia. This cascade happened to me many times as a child and it was utterly terrifying and confusing. I can recognize the initial symptoms for what they are now but it took a lot of practice and many embarrassing experiences, and I still find it very difficult to notify others in social situations for so many reasons.
I found out about Paulides and missing 411 about 2 years ago. I watched everything I could it was so interesting. And even tho I've heard all these stories before , you have a way of telling stories that just pulls you in. Love this series.
Omg same! Its just so weird something weird is definitely going on and the fact the FBI really looks into them also they know something is going on! So creepy
The “awful dark” reminds me of the story “the animals watched me” in episode 13 of missing 411. It seems like these kids were pulled into another dimension that while walking a short distance through it, let them cover a lot of distance in the physical world when they came out of it. It makes me think of “the upside-down” or some similar concept. Or it was big foot again.
I kept wondering if Jacky's clothing was wet when he was found (or if there was evidence of his clothing having been wet). That's a detail I would love to know.
Probably it wasn't any wetter than you would expect from someone who had spent the night outdoors. meaning his cloths had dried overnight while he hid on the island from all the wiled animals, with his friend the giant mind you a 2yo can probably walk on matted grass and other clumps that an adult would sink straight through
I live 8 min from that town and we're he was found by that plant its severely wet. We like to hunt by that plant in the winter bc its all hard and dry.
I’ve been watching you before bedtime, and you put me to sleep every time! I’m a Night Shift insomniac, and your stories, no matter how horrifying and scary, just make me feel safe and sleepy. I appreciate what you do! You’re so talented!
@@alexsandrsenaviev4529 yeah, where in conclusion his/her body would be found a few miles away from last seen...shoes and socks were off along with the shirt and pants, folded neatly, except for one shoe would be missing. a few years go by, and 2 hikers found a dead animal (looking like either a mountain lion or panther) wearing the other missing shoe! The two hikers were in shock and they both knew that they had to report this to me authorities however, they were also both very nervous. I mean what are they supposed to report to them, that as they were hiking down the trail they stumbled upon a dead deer wearing one size 4 blue and white Nike on its left foot? They would've put them in the looney bin. So they both decided that they'd tell them that they found the sneaker on the ground next to a dead deer. Both of them never talked about it again. Until years later, sick in the hospital...growing weaker and weaker as everyday passes, suffering from lung cancer. He asked for a moment along with his only son, and told him the TRUTH ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. He passed away 4 days later in his sleep after doctors decided to induce a coma so he can be given a very big dose of morphine mixed with fentanyl to keep him comfortable and outta pain. He was also given a rather high dose of Propaphypol which is a medication that keeps the patient asleep.
If he was feeling sick/tired after such a short hike, maybe Jeff was having some kind of medical condition that made him really confused and that’s why he went of the path and did weird things.
Alternatively he may have taken some drugs before the hike. He was 16 after all. Acid, some other type of hallucinogen, bath salts, etc. There are many.
Which is why he should never have been left alone in the first place. It takes something SERIOUS to stop a teenager in their tracks, very sad this was not recognized. May this be a future lesson, " Leave no man behind".
Is it possible that he had a new onset, and thus previously undiagnosed case of hypoglycemia or diabetes? When a person's blood glucose gets messed up, it can make them act super illogical, and out of character.
@@crystalpreuett9539 yep, I lost a good friend a few years back from insulin shock. He went missing for two days while out elk hunting in some deep woods. He was 36 and an experienced outdoorsman; he just got caught up when he forgot his insulin and ended up going into insulin shock. We found him slumped alongside a river, sitting with his back against a fallen tree, in an small open meadow like area with the sun shining down on him... as far as places to pass go, it was absolutely beautiful; we should all be so lucky.
The first story reminds me of the little kid who just recently (maybe 2 years ago or so???) went missing from his yard and was found days later on a small island type thing in the middle of a swampy area which you also had to pass through a bunch of thorny bushes to get to and when he was found and asked how he got there and how he survived (as in how he wasn’t starving and the fact it was really cold out and he wasn’t dressed for the occasion - not mention he had no scratches or cuts from the thorns) he said a big “bear” took care of him, gave him food and kept him warm... in both cases I’m thinking something along the lines of what we call Bigfoot cared for/protected these small children
Is not needeed o reach to anormal explanations for this, if you search for "animals adopt baby" or "animals kidnaped baby" even here on youtube, you will find that is enough common that animals will treat other species babys as their own. You dont even need to search on internet for it, we all know some story of a dog nursing a cat, a cat nursing a duck, etc. So i think these kids were lost and then found or kidnaped by an bear or monkey.
I'm pretty sure MrBallen covered that storey. If not that same one it was one almost identical to it. Totally had to be a Bigfoot. There really is no other explanation.
His voice seems perfect for telling these stories. For me he doesn’t even get to the scary part and I have shivers going down my spine and am checking my room for things
I love how I'm like "oh yes, I'm going to be a nature enthusiast and start hiking" then I listen to stories like these, I'm like, no, there's enough videos on UA-cam for me to appreciate nature 🤣
i know write like anything could happen in a matter of minutes depending on the situation not that im necesarlly blambing the scout master but if he does that hes not a scout master hes A SCOUT
Right? I had a boyfriend who was in scouts and my cousins and my best friend were too. They were in the same troop and my boyfriend was an Eagle Scout which is the highest rank. A couple of times my boyfriend was slowing them down because he was a perfectionist. The troop would give him crap for a while and then my friend would call me and jokingly tell me to give him an "incentive" so he would get it in gear and they could leave lol. They went on a ton of trips and they always had stories about them all having to stop and do something or all slow foen because someone was falling behind. I've never heard of a Scoutmaster leaving a scout behind, especially not two, and especially not when scout 1 has no idea that scout 2 is relying on them.
I see chucky in the corner at 17:16
It’s at the bottem right
Youre cheating. The video was posted 12 mins ago lol
how did you find it so fast
I played it at two times speed did not skip through
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@@lestergreen.ifyouknowyoukn3676 you’re supposed to be the winner I saw your comment from like 10 minutes ago
Yes, I am a grown man who listens to another grown man tell me stories at bedtime.
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they aren’t stories if they’re true brother
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Every rescue crew- the child can’t get that far
Every missing child- hold my sippy
Also every child- maybe take my socks and/or shoes too🤔
@@lybri5490 always 😅wassup with that🤷🏽♀️
Yep smh
Who needs socks or shoes...apparently not kids wondering in the woods
Haha
As a wilderness first responder, the kid in the second story sounds like a hypothermic victim. I e seen a scenario like this and the guy survived. Talking with him afterwards he said he fell into the river along the trailhead, and when he made it to shore he emptied his pack of contents and set them out to dry. He also removed his underwear and socks knowing they will stay wet the longest. His story after this is hazy because he was obviously suffering from hypothermia from the water. When he was found by hikers, he was a quarter mile away from his pack and his body was shutting down. If he died, it would have resembled the kid in the second story too a T. The only thing is is the guy survived and was able to explain the state of confusion he experienced after trying to get warm. In his mind he knew the path was close and he needed to get back into it, however he climbed out the opposite side of the river from the trail. His hypothermic mind wasn't making sound connections. Anytime hypothermia is a factor, weird things tend to happen.
Agreed. The whole story screams basic behaviors of hypothermia. However, it's still a mystery why he didn't stay put on the trail waiting for a negligent scout to walk by.
exactly what i was thinking especially about the fact that he took off his clothes . There are many incidents where extreme hypothermia in the final stages leads victims / survivors to take off their clothes becuz they feel super hot . its a weird phenomena . i couldn't put my finger on why got in the river but i think u got it .
@@Chewbecca101 no idea why he crossed, but I've seen the absolute mess cold can do to a human mind. I once watched a co worker wrestle a hypo victim from stepping out into thin air inside a heli transport. Fought tooth and nail to get out the bay door. Afterwards when stabilized the guy asked what we were talking about when we mentioned it. I've also seen them stick their hands in open flames to try and get their hands warm. Best thing you can do with hypo victims is expect something you've never expected.
I suspect that a wild animal may have spooked him away from the trail, got a bit lost and ended up at the river.
The thought I can’t let go of is his reasoning for waiting on the trail . He wasn’t feeling well after just having rested, Something about that just sounds odd considering it was a short walk back . Maybe stepped off the trail to throw up who knows
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Things I've learned since I started binge watching MrBallen:
Never separate from your group when in the wild for any reason.
Keep children under constant supervision when in or near the wild.
NEVER EVER GO UNDERWATER CAVE DIVING.
Do not go to places where you are told to stay away from, for any reason, especially weather.
If you can't find someone, don't wait to call authorities without a good reason.
Even better: have your kids wear a backpack with a leash in the wilderness so you can blink once in a while
Or fly, or go on hikes, or fishing, or to the forest, or camping, or go to anything close to wilderness, or if you are have any expertise on something, you will probly die LOL
If management wants you to fix something for extra money, and they don’t want to turn it off, say no
And always, always be well armed. Silver bullets can't hurt either. Holy water's good too.
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He would be the village story teller a thousand years ago. The entire population would have gathered to listen. He is truly gifted.
Now I'm envisioning the grandmother from The Company of Wolves, 1984 played by Angela Lansbury, "Never eat a wind fallen apple. Don't stray from the path. Never trust a man whose eyebrows meet in the middle."
He is talented for sure, BUT he works very hard being prepared, so that he sounds and if he were there. That is what pros do. Pros make difficult tasks look easy because they are prepared and, trained. Gifted always helps though!
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I’ve heard that one of the last symptoms of hypothermia is an overwhelming heat flash. Jeff may have experienced this and tried to go into the river and stripped…then fell asleep and died in his sleep. I honestly hope that’s what happened instead of an evil person grabbing him 💔
far more likely. people who die of hypothermia are often found partially undressed for this exact reason.
It’s known as paradoxical undressing. Terrible. :(
I can confirm the heat flash when you have hypothermia. Back in May when I was transferred from the ICU to a regular room after a big surgery, I experienced the heat flash. It felt like I was in a flame and it’s burning inside my body. I felt that I was sweating badly, then had to “yell out” (actually whispering because I was too weak and was under effect of Motrin) and forced my husband turning the AC on. He told me couple days later that my body temperature was cold like a coprse, so he turned on the heat instead, but I didn’t know about it at that time. I calmed down and went unconscious the moment I heard/thought my husband had turned on the AC. It’s scary of how the brain can trick us to dangerous situation.
What I find interesting about that is that he put a boot back on, kept his jacket and pants on, and removed his hat. Paradoxical undressing or not. Normally when they do that, they don't put clothing back on. Did he remove his clothing for his wade into the river? Did he even enter the river? Was he wet? Did he remove his clothing because he was wet? Curious.
@@newguy3588I think he fell in the river, made it to a rock, took off his pack bc it was waterlogged and heavy, and made it to the edge of the river. He tried to find the trail as he was slowly succumbing to hypothermia, couldn’t find it. He was a scout so he probably knew to take off his wet clothes, and possibly stopped to rest and get warm under a tree. He may have started to put his shoes back on to start walking again later, but his motor skills got worse as he sat there and continued to become more hypothermic, and he decided to nap/rest before continuing to put his other shoe on.
After this nap/rest, he was severely hypothermic (possibly delirious) and began to paradoxically undress as his body shut down. He died minutes or a few hours later from exposure. It seems very probable and requires no other person to interact with him. Unfortunately, he was a child in the wilderness who was possibly ill. No foul play is required for him to end up dead, just negligence from his troop.
When it comes to cases that involve children of a young age, there really should be a child psychologist involved. Not to weigh the child's mental condition but to extract more information via a structured method using drawings, etc. I'd be so curious to see how that would pan out.
I agree, a trained professional to dig out any information they can. Something is happening out in the woods and seemingly only children really survive. Some adults/you g adults do as well though its rare and even then they don't remember a thing.
Excellent idea!!
That's a great idea. When I finally spoke up about my sexual abuse that's the first thing requested and done. I didn't understand then why we drew and played certain games but it's really a sub conscious effort of extracting truth versus imagination and rationalizing it.
@@A-bit-Shifty I feel like the reason some ppl can’t remember how they got there is because whatever took them had a way of clearing their memory but with such a little kid they know it’s not a big deal idk
@@CottonCxndy yeah. Maybe its assumed that whatever a child says will be taken with a very large grain of salt as just kids wild imaginations? Either way, something weird is happening out there and it can't all be explained as easily as some people suggest.
I love how he doesn’t play scary music or make it dramatic. 10/10 I feel comfortable watching these at night
True
Well... I don't
Nah theres very quiet background music i hear in my headphones. Makes it a lil creepy.
I don’t lol 😂
The music is creepy as fuck
Throwing this theory for Jeff. This is mainly becouse I have been in simmilar situations. Take into account he was not feeling well. He had not been feeling well, he kept falling behind. Now I think he had diarrhea/ stomach pains. Hiking with people it's difficult to brake off to use the bathroom, maybe he was holding it in as much as he could but he lost the battle. He sat down as a last resort to hold it in. He convinced the scout leader to let him sit for a min, maybe the scout leader figured it out and let Jeff have a frew mins of privacy. As soon as the group is out of view he takes off into the woods to relive him self. Well running didn't help and he partially soils him self. He panics and takes his sock off to use as toilet paper. It helps but his undies are ruined. He makes a quick decision to enter the river in an attempt to wash his body/ save his cloths. He takes his pack out on the rock to get a new change of clothes while washing himself down their. It gets real cold fast and he needs to get out. He leaves his items out in an attempt to return. He dries off, maybe he is a little disorientated form the whole thing, and wants to go and check on the group so no one worries, he'll come back for the items once they dry more. He gets lost and becomes very hypothermoc. He sits down and succumbs to the cold/ internal condition.
this makes perfect sense actually
That’s a pretty solid theory.
May be the most thought out thing I've ever heard. You should be in the FBI...
Jesus Christ. That’s such a ludicrous, stretched out theory. It makes the theory that Bigfoot kidnapped him much more likely.
He went through that much trouble just to take a fucking shit? Are you fucking kidding me?
@@enshk79 apparently you've never been a kid, your thinking "wow he went through all that to take a shit" yes yes he would. Shitting your self is social suicide for kids, sure as adults we don't care and get over it if it happens but not for kids that social anxiety and angst. Take into account everything, slow pace, missing socks, location found, his odd request to sit in the middle of the trail when they are right next to the exit. And your best answer is Bigfoot or some random stranger nabbed him? Lmfao
The 2 year old said their were animals watching him, that seems to be a common theme with these 411 cases. The fact that the hunting dog refused to track him is very strange to me.
Thank you Mr.Ballen!!
Yeah, the animals watching him from behind the trees but not approaching him sounds really similar to other stories, especially considering Jack somehow ended up miles away from where he used to be seemingly with help from something else.
Probably just a Polytus' literature move.
Makes me think of the changeling stories, like Jackie was mimicking the thing behind the trees.. because he WAS the thing behind the trees and the real Jackie was never found 😦
I'm tellin' you dude: these kids keep running into cryptids in the 411 stories. In vid 14 of this series the first 2 kids sounded eerily of skinwalkers and the first one here sounded like bigfoot. Like wtf??
@@saoirserose2696 ayo 😳
In the second story he said that Jeff told the scout master he wasn’t feeling that well and that’s why he wanted to sit down. What if he was exposed to a poisonous plant or something and started hallucinating, which eventually caused him to do all those weird things....
That makes a lot more sense
Go on girl!
Hypothermia will make a person feel like they are hot, that explains why his clothes were off. Not sure why he went off the trail though. I do like the idea he was hallucinating due to being exposed to poisonous plants. That could’ve made him panic and run away getting him lost.
First initial reaction was I’d figured he’d left off the path from a bear or predator... being chased to a stream where animals normally won’t pursue into water and he left his pack as a distraction while going upriver you’re avoid the problem...
What comes to mind with these forest stories is The Happening. That movie with Mark Walburg bc like in the movie the plants make people sick and disoriented .. And on a different note with all the boy Scouts stories my money is sadly on these scout masters based on the unfortunate abuse charges that have come out in past several years 😥
Every time a child goes missing in one of these they’re found alive and they say the freakiest and most disturbing thing
And they all say the same things. Something was peeking out at them
But it didn’t hurt them
And they are probably being as truthful as they ever will be, just lack the vocabulary to fully explain...
@Mark Gardner or 'the giant'
Kinda makes you think, huh?
I've read that children have the ability to communicate with plants and other forms of life (The Secret Life of Plants, great book). Maybe this has something to do with it?
If Ballen goes missing it was definitely the like button.
Or Sasquatch
The like button made a deal with the sasquatch.
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@Cameron Huerta
Oh hell yeah! Like Button gets revenge!
At the end I was like ‘Wait, why didn’t they ask Sammy what happened!?” Then I realized I thought Sammy was a person, but Sammy was a dog.
Same
Ditto
SAMMY'S A DOG??
Sammy's a persons name
I'm glad he's safe!
What we need is drones with heat senses with a programmed grid searching tech. They can look 24/7. Cover vast distance. Look for heat signatures
That already exists but too expensive and "Complicated" for the Local police to use😂
U smart me dumb facts😌
@@notme8652 then we’re gonna have to wait till technology makes both price and usability better
You won’t give of a hear signature if you’re dead.
@invisiblechallenge why don't you start to try and build one? I'm sure in this pandemic a lot of people are bored but you would be doing good or even design it on paper and post it to a place where drones are built
"His legs aren't broken, he can walk" takes me back to every hiking and camping trip with my dad🤣
😂
That bit took me out 😂😂😂
I think the Boy Scout Jeff may have ran away from his group intentionally. For some reason he probably was distraught from his own life. It’s possible that he may have had a minor depression and decided to runaway. If he endured the cold nights it’s possible that he eventually went insane. That usually happens when people get lost. He did some odd things like emptying the contents of his bag and neatly placing the items to show off his odd behavior. He then goes and picks spot for where he wanted to die. I think he was suicidal.
That’s how ik you’re a vet
“Rub some dirt of it;you’ll be fine” 😂
"They found his cigarettes and his lighter" as a smoker myself I can tell you this means he's dead.
Yeah definitely not a good sign.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 I've been late to work because I forgot my cigarettes and had to turn around. My boss was always like "I get it"
Truth, I've forgotten my wallet before my smokes.
Most definitely.
@@Hisdudeness9500 If I need to remember to bring something somewhere, I always put my cigs on top of it lol
When I hear stories like the one with Jeff, I understand why my Scoutmaster always insisted that our troop never split up. In a situation like the senior scout and Jeff, our Scoutmaster would have selected someone to stay with both or would have waited for each. Whenever our SM or Assistant SM would tell us never to leave anyone alone under any circumstances, there was always something in their expressions and voice that always made me take this very seriously.
Always have a buddy
Probably cause they've experienced scouts getting lost. The voice of someone who speaks from experience is always the one you seem to listen to the most, you can really hear the difference.
Yeah, hearing that scouting one really bugged me, because we always required the buddy system. You never went anywhere without another scout.
buddy system keeps every one safe... some times working in 3's is better....
Can we all just appreciate that he’s stood in a horrible cold forest just to tell us a story what a legend 👍🏼
Hahaha
This made me laugh lol
@@MrBallen your content is so amazing I’m so happy you reached 1 million next is 5 then 10 keep up the good work love from Liverpool,England
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I love your comments they’re all so nice mine is just mean comments
That last story reminded me of something that happened to me about 20 years ago. I and a buddy were out camping. We realized we forgot to put ice in the cooler. Buddy said he would go into town and grab a couple bags. He walked about 10 minutes up the path to the parking lot, and took off. I heard him start up the truck and pull out on the gravel. The trip would take him about 2 hours, we were pretty far out. About 30 minutes later, my buddy comes walking into the camp from the opposite direction, from the woods. He stops and looks around, and says "why did you move the camp?" I looked at him funny and said "uh, dude, I didn't move anything...and did you get the ice?" He looked back at me, and I noticed his eyes looked...dead. Like, no soul in them. He frowned and said "Oh, sorry. I forgot." And turned around and walked back into the woods. I stood there scratching my head. About 1 1/2 hours later, I hear the truck pull back up into the lot, and a few minutes later, my buddy showed up with the ice. Baffled, I told him what happened, he said he's been in town for the past two hours, and never came back here in that time.
The person who came out of the woods was wearing identical clothing, same haircut, same everything as my buddy. Just that his eyes looked creepy. To this day I have no idea what actually happened.
WHOAH.
That's a wild story. Creepy
Doppelganger 😂
Doppelgänger or shapeshifter.
Awesome campfire story to tell
Imagine if this guy had his own Netflix show where he talks about all of this. Would be amazing.
Netflix would ruin it . UA-cam is good, gets straight to the point. Tv shows drag out for shock value and repeat the same information like 5 times before moving on .
There is a really good movie by the guy who wrote the books. It's on one streaming media or another and its called missing 411. You might have to do a little digging because there is a couple with similar names. The good one is very "documentary" and has the actual author. It's really good!
He definitely should have his own Netflix show
You should definitely go for it Ballen!🤘🏽🎬
or a podcast!!
The child that went missing at a picnic reminded me of when my parents were telling me a story about my dad. When he was a kid, my dad, his mom and other family members went to this place where they had a family outing, the children played and the adults socialized and prepared the food. As my dad was playing, he secretly went into the bushes without his mom and them knowing. These people with two children ( I forgot how they were described ) walked up to my dad, and the female ( mother ) tried to hold his hand, but he didn’t want to go near them, I guess they wanted him to come with them but he didn’t want to, instead he walked back to where his mom and them were and he never saw those people again.
Is anyone else noticing the trend of weird things happening to little kids in swampy areas. I'm legit staying away from swamps from now on...
I thought he was telling the same story again I kept checking date posted and was sure I hadn't listened yeterday.
missing 411 has a lot of cases involving young children disappearing in strange circumstances in the wilderness ,some sound similar to others ,when you realise that its tough to believe that its all coincidence ,i personally believe its something to do with sasquatch/bigfoot ( from what the children say If they are found )and also from eyewitness reports of hairy humanoids carrying what seems to be a child (in some cases) .
I live in the middle of a swamp uh oh
John Che i don’t believe in Bigfoot, but I believe that it must have been a skin walkers...
ike
“The kid couldn’t have gone far”
The kid: *Mr Worldwide*
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lmfaoooooooooooooooo
It was Jim FFS
🤣🤣🤣
Ha nice
"It's just not normal human behavior to get up in the middle of the night and run 14 miles through a swamp."
The mental image of this made me laugh a little too hard.
What does he mean it’s not normal human behavior?! I do that every night!!!
Aight, i guess its time i pay my psychiatrist a visit about running through swamps
It wasn’t night when he started out with the dog……. I’m a runner, 14 miles IS a long way and much, much tougher doing cross country running…through a forest, let along a swampy bog….
Mr. Ballen didn’t say if he had any injuries, but running full tilt for 14 miles, through slippery boggy swampland , regardless of a burst of adrenaline, while carrying a shotgun …IS nigh on impossible , PERIOD….But to do it without falling and injuring yourself the very first mile…is…inconceivable.
@@andrewmartin5622 Aren't you a Goose, though? Your kind normally float on water, so I can't imagine a Swamp being much worse, especially with your lighter body weight, and because you can fly.
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I hope it's obvious enough that I'm kidding.
@@101Volts yeah, your right. I guess it’s predictable for people to figure out I’m a goose when I have it in my name
"Adrenaline" really hits home for me. It troubles me of how easily our fear can be used by a malicious person.
Born and raised in a deeply rural area, fond memories of my childhood spent camping with friends and cousins. Far from houses, pitch black new moons; one of our favorite activities was to disappear and "stalk" each other.
Tip: If you find yourself isolated and pursued by someone with bad intentions, hide low and wait until night. When things are dark, stop running. Turn about and begin stalking the bad guy.
We have an ESP type of awareness when someone is following or watching us. Bad guys are also scared of things that go bump in the night. The simple action of turning the tables and becoming the stalker, often, is enough to induce a panic attack and paralyze them with their own fear. For good measure, randomly throw a rock so that it lands about 20 or 30 feet from them. Almost guaranteed, you will not spend the next day running and hiding.
One thing I've learned is that if it's a child, there's a Chance that they'll live, if they're adult, 100% dead.
Why?
@@andrewlol717 i mean adults are always cofident and most likely always gonna find a soulation to stuff wihich can et u in more danger if u wonder so far off to random creatures in the woods and kids they dont really understand whats happening they might be scared but they arent gonna move and try to find a soulation
@@Lovingashdaily Then how in the hell these kids go so far away? Every one of them broke your rule of "not gonna move"
@@sendmorerum8241 well yea the kids would run deep intot he forest but then stop at some point knowing their lost and cant do nothing unlike grown up they will still go deeper into the woods tryna find a differnt way to get out
Because adults remember clearly.
Children cannot, and will not be taken seriously. I also believe it has to do with puberty, a 14 year old boy was found dead. But an 11 year old boy was found alive, and explained after walking 33 miles in less than 24 hours that animals were watching him behind trees and following him.
Can we take a second to realize how nice this guy is he deleted part 5 of missing 411 cuz the family asked him to.
Wait how yk?
That speaks volumes
What were the stories in that one? I'm curious now.
Waaat rly???
He only had two options - either delete it or the family reports him to UA-cam & he gets a strike on his account.
I love how he doesn’t say “my channel” but instead “our channel” rightfully giving credit to his editors!
And his family I'm sure.
@@dontbeacasualtycutthecord7173 And for MOTHER RUSSIA!!!
@@tomiraina8520 LMFAO
@@tomiraina8520 AND MY AXE!
He’s crediting us for watching. It’s our channel now
I have a theory for the boys out story: the boy was not feeling good because he had to go to the bathroom, he was embarrassed to say so, he left the trail to relieve himself and got lost. It was cold, and before you die from hypothermia you go nuts and you also feel warm. That’s why often people will make decisions that make no sense and remove clothing.
That is a good theory. My other idea was that a bear, cougar, or some other animal showed up, and he backed away off the trail from it. The items on the rock in the middle of the water make sense if he went there to keep away from the animal. He took off his clothes to swim to shore for something, because he did not want to get them wet. (Sharp stick? Wood to burn?) Then the cold got to him before he swam back.
This is the only theory that really makes sense
Diarrhoea maybe?wash himself in the river,got hypothermia?
@@elliotspencer6656 or fall in the river while trying to go to the toilette and then got hyperthermik. But this theory makes so much sens
Isn't it weird u feel warm before death gods last gift
If John Ballen had gone into teaching, I truly believe he'd be every kid's favorite & a repeat 'Teacher of the Year Award recipient, real talk.
I doubt it, with all of the brainwashing and indoctrination that's being taught in today's socialist/communist education system.
If Mr. Ballen was a teacher I would re-enroll myself in school! Could you imagine him teaching history!!! Amazing!!
@@Krullmatic bro what?
@@salim5394 I have no idea what he’s talking about 🤣
@@Krullmatic You sound very brainwashed yourself
Jeff's case sounds like he went into a delirious state. The fact he said he wasn't feeling well, maybe a spider bite or most likely ate some berries he shouldn't have eaten.
I jumped on that idea too, but someone pointed out that he obviously just got sick, had diarrhea, and was desperately wanting privacy and distance from the group to wash his drawers. He may have avoided being labeled as the kid that shit his pants on the hike the next school day, but was it worth it...Sadly, most teens would still choose chancing death to utter embarrassment amongst their peers.
He said he was fine just a little tired
@@randyphillips6506 He obviously was not 😬
@@gigimarie3989 I know but I don’t want to laugh
@@randyphillips6506 Any boy scout of 16y with soiled pants would say that. Every time.
As an eagle scout, I have been in similar situations, if you so much as walk off a trail. It is SO easy to get off a "well marked" trail depending on how difficult the trail is. When i was 14 as a life scout, we went on a 7 mile hike with my troop, and my SCOUTMASTER and collectively ALL of us took a wrong turn and ended up going on a 13 mile hike.. fun..
Lol my troop went on a hike, I didn’t personally go but apparently one of the scout masters walked off from the group and went up the wrong trail
No one has let him forget it
We didn’t hike as far but 1 mile in a buddy threw a rock at a giant bee hive and we all got 30+ stings each.
Who are scoutmasters in reality? Are they highly trained survivalist with years of back country experience or Army Special Forces/ Rangers? Navy Seals or Marine Recon? Nope they are average adult males who sell insurance, work on cars, cut hair.... Not to say some of the above dont become scoutmasters but they are rare, most are average men motivated to help boys learm some life lessons and self sufficiency
Regarding Story #2, The Appalachian Trail draws plenty of sociopathic and psychopathic predators of men, women, and children. They are some of the scariest monsters because they look like someone you might see at the grocery store, or someone you might have met in college or in the service, or someone who might have been a neighbor, etc.
The Appalachian trail is inhabited by 100s of "feral men", especially in the more isolated parts, and most range from unstable to 100% insane. Many are fugitives from the law, soldiers who have gone AWOL, deranged hippies, or national park rangers who have simply lost their minds. They're capable of practically anything for any reason, with motivations that we would consider entirely irrational or illogical.
My property is adjacent to the Smoky Mountains national park and one such "feral man" lives in a cave not too far from our home and he's peaceful and usually friendly. He just wants to be left alone, but every once in a while, if he really needs something or gets extremely bored, he'll show up and ask for something or he'll just sit and talk (his speech has become broken and he's not entirely understandable anymore). Last month he came by and showed me that his coat was badly damaged, so I gave him an old set of BDUs, coat, boots, some basic supplies, and a crank-powered radio. He was appreciative and thanked me repeatedly. I'm not sure exactly what he did, but I think he accidentally harmed someone badly a long time ago, and then he fled into the wilderness to escape arrest. The stories he has though, they'll make you question a lot of things. The guy has seen some crazy sh-t while living in the wild, some really shocking, even supernatural things.
Interesting, you need to start your own channel.
WOW
I'm not far from the trail either... grew up around these mountains...
Don't forget smugglers (including drugs AND humans)... AND moonshiners. Mostly, it's a unilateral "Don't start nothing and there won't be nothing"... BUT they don't tolerate strangers or intruders well.
There's a lot of the trail that just isn't seriously patrolled regular... AND the authorities literally CAN'T keep up after all the available weirdness. You hear stories that sound ridiculous, but it's often about a favorite spot for anything from still-sites to rendezvous points for God only knows what... SO it's not always healthy to get too damn curious.
AND I don't care how "easy" a trail section is supposed to be. Don't EVER split up or leave anyone behind alone. Keep something to defend yourself wherever you go. You don't necessarily need a gun, but HAVE something... a hammer, a ball bat, walking stick (you'll see they're pretty popular actually... for reasons), even a damned ol' golf putter's a deadly weapon if you know what you're about...
You just don't know who you could run upon when the Appalachian Trail runs from Georgia all the way into Canada with a criss-crossing mish-mash of game trails, logging roads and wagon trails... blind waterways and run-offs... rock-falls, and who knows what all, and it can change and shift at any time without notice, so just because you've been there a year ago, doesn't mean it's going to be anything like you friggin' remember.
You've been warned. ;o)
share the stories he told u
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I second this, we want stories!
Legend has it, Jacky's parents still have him on a leash to this day.
They'll let him off it when he turns 18.
Or will they?
This is funny, but that was in 1950, so there's a very real possibility that they're all dead.
@spaceracer23 = Do you make up (ahem) "legends" much in daily life, too?!?
I doubt they're all dead my grandma was in her 20s in the 1950s and she's still alive.
This guy is 1,000,000% the best and most consistent storyteller i have EVER found on the Internet.
Some people are so natural at it.😊
Biden is actually the best story teller.
The first story reminds me of one that happened here in 2016. It was in January and normally it’s pretty cold here in the winter,but sometimes we will have a few warm days. One warm day a grandma took her 4 year old granddaughter and 2 year old grandson walking down a trail in the woods. The little girls shoe came untied and the grandma bent down to tie her shoe and when she turned back around the boy was gone. After looking for him for a certain amount of time the grandma called the police. There was a huge search with so many volunteers. It stayed warm for two more days and then after that it got very cold. The next morning after the first cold night they found the boy a couple of miles away from last being seen lying up against a large machine (something like a tractor I think) he died from the cold. Volunteers said they searched that area very well the days before. Some people accused the family of foul play,but the police said there’s no signs of that and that they personally know the family (it’s kind of a small town here) and they would never do anything like that to just please leave the grieving family alone. I was pregnant with my daughter at the time and I had nightmares for awhile from that.
poop in a cup! big stinky poop in a cup
@@michaeldoran4367 what are you talking about?
michealdoran always makes thes idiotic comments. I think he is a kid who thinks he is clever, except he is not.
@@charingcross7945 My feelings are hurt. It is so clever and original
@@michaeldoran4367 And your juvenile comments are original?
Am I the only one who sighed in relief when Sammy was found?
RIP to all the poor souls that die lost and alone.
@Emma Rose I hear you, I am just the same cannot even watch the ads that depict cruelty, I know they are raising money for good causes but they just break me.
@@chipsthedog1 not really for a good cause. They were predatory and use the money to pay for salaries and lobby against hunting. The bets thing you can do is donate to your local shelter
me to
@Emma Rose Same here. The moment he said the other guy was seen carrying his shotgun and walking with Sammy into the woods I was like, "Oh hell no" and immediately came to the comments.
@Emma Rose NOTHING worse than seeing an animal being hurt.unless you are hunting for food.
Why did Jackie have to call it the “Aweful Dark” 😭
he was little 😂
Because it was awful .....😶
Poor baby, he was only a toddler, just 2 years old😢
Because it was dark and he was scared
@@ThatScrGuy-m1v 😢 yes
11:25 Could be a case of paradoxical undressing. Where when someone gets so cold they're body tricks them into thinking they're actually over heating and they start taking their clothes off.
Yup, I was thinking that as well.
Definitely!
Exactly what I was thinking except i had no clue what it was called
Indeed, living in the Dakota's we are quite familiar with this situation. Many a police officer who moved here from the South has been fooled into believing a death by hypothermia was a sex crime when they find a naked lady in a ditch or on the side of the road after a storm, her car may be just a few yards away, she left to try and find help and froze to death, one of the end stages the brain is confused and she believes she is so hot the must disrobe to cool off, then naked in the snow she dies. We who grow up around the subzero winters have heard about this, and many have seen it in the days before cell phones and 2 way radios.
Occurs with hypothermia. Was the first thing I thought of too.
#3 - Jackie. Just wanted to note that this has the same kind of thing happening to Jackie as happened to another of your stories. Young child, disappears, animals surround him at night but don't come close, appears miles away from where he was lost. Only difference was one just kept sleeping under trees and the other a giant leads him through the forest.
As an Eagle Scout, I want to know why the scoutmaster would allow not one but two scouts be alone on a trail. There is a reason for the buddy system.
I know nothing about Eagle Scout but I was wondering if the buddy system existed back in the 70's or if maybe it was something enforced after this kind of thing happened? Or maybe they were more lenient?
@@Jaqueli9er I don’t know when it was implemented in Boy Scouts, so you might have a point there.
I was a scout in the early 2000s. We were never not within eyeshot or earshot of another person. Specifically for instances such as this.
I was with a church group at a Boy Scout camp and the buddy system was heavily enforced. couldn’t even go to the bathroom, which was within sight of all the camp sites, alone
Then I went with my troop to the same camp site and they were way more lenient and I walked up to the riflery range, at least a quarter of a mile away from the main part of the camp and way out of anyone’s sight, by myself. Turned out I was the only scout that chose riflery at that specific time
Right, I made it to webelos, and we ALWAYS used the buddy sysrem.
@@brasstacks1991 Earliest reference I could find was 1942. But, that's just when it was mentioned in print - could be older. It seems such common sense.
“ Please do a trust fall with the like button”
Yeah cause the like button is going to trust you by now
🤣😂🤣
#truth
I miss the rating system.
this is to get the like buttons trust back so we can mess with them more
Yeah, I'd guess that ship has sailed 🤣
Scouts use the buddy system and they messed up big time! The boy wasn't feeling good and by no means should have been left alone. Very sad and avoidable. 😖
I agree, sounds fishy!! Never should've been left alone!!
Exactly what I was thinking lol these are “master” and “senior” scouts but don’t even use the buddy system they teach in cub scouts 🤨
Could it possibly he being poison or drug?
I agree! Not possible. Senior scout not finished eating ? Too strange. And since when do scouts need huge packs for a short hike? Too many questions even prior to the mystery. Sorry. The pre- mystery factors are more out of the ordinary than the occurrences .
Feel very bad for jeff :(
I used to sit and listen to my grandaddy tell stories by the fire. Now I listen to Mr. Ballen. Thank you Mr. Ballen!
Such a simple and wholesome channel... no gimmicks, no goofy humor or shooting your friends with paintballs or darts, no explicit content...ITS AMAZING!!!
..no....explicit...content....?!
wholesome...?
@@Candlewick14 explicit as in no using sex to sell his stories, no nudity involved in his stories.. and he doesnt show the horrific pictures that go along with the True stories.
@@bakedbeanz4439 he is telling true stories using no fake clickbait or just telling his opinion..he is just wholesomely telling facts.
@@daniellehall4124 I've seen some pretty scary photos on this channel. People boiled or steamed alive. People stranded for three weeks in the dark in underground caves. Demons. Big foot. Serial killers. I mean, that's explicit content dude. What were you watching before?!
No matter how scary the case is this man makes me feel safe.
Cory's story is just terrifying. Something was after him, something awful, something I don't ever want to run into, something I hope no one else runs into. I don't blame Sammy for not wanting to go back in there. That amount of distance, especially considering we aren't talking about someone who'd never been in the woods before so he wouldn't be easily freaked out or hear a noise and overreact. He would know the normal sounds throughout the forest and the not normal sounds. He must have been so freaking scared. Noooooope.
Mr. Ballen, you are hands down THE BEST, story teller EVER! Love your videos!
Of course he loves his videos.
The first question should have been, why did the Scoutmaster NOT enforce the “buddy system” rule??
There probably wasn't a "buddy system" in 1970.
@@ellenerskine1382 1970 wasn't centuries ago lol it probably was a thing
Seeing dude could have enlisted for a war a year later, I'm guessing the scoutmaster didn't feel he had to treat him like a toddler. Letting a 2 year old wander around the edge of the woods or swamp unwatched is a little different from leaving a 16 year old scout on a trail, only 10 minutes from the destination, and 5 minutes from the trailing scoutmaster. Since dude was sick and seemed to want privacy, he likely shit his pants and went of the trail to clean up/wash up, which was a bad choice it seems.
Meh... Jeff was 16 y/o (not exactly a little kid) so I don't necessary fault the Scoutmaster. When I was in the Scouts in the early 1990's, any 16 y/o Scout would be considered almost an adult and most likely was a troop leader and had a lot of outdoor experiences and responsibilities.
We had the buddy system in 1970
It is mind boggling to me, how many people mysteriously disappear.
one major point for that is the government/media, now one, and the same, never talk about, and give decent advice when going into the woods.
It’s called schizophrenia and it’s an actual mental illness, you just start doing things that make no sense to anyone but to your brain it does, and the most common thing you do is abandon everything you have and you just start walking away from where you started for hours and maybe even days, it’s very frightening once you wake up from an episode of schitz and can sometimes scare you enough to give you a heart attack
Technically if no one else seen it, it can be considered a mystery
@@ScholarlyCynic it’s just reported as a death with no cause if they’re never found, because that’s all you can put of the final police report if theirs given no evidence other than an abrupt disappearance
To the 1% who see's this comment, i pray that your homes be filled with healing, blessings, miracles, and success. Amen.💞
God I hope so...
Likewise I wish you double that.
And to you 💞
Thank u ☺️
@@raphaelel1183 Hear ya on that Stay safe
I would love to see an episode of your takeaways from telling so many stories! Like patterns, similarities, thoughts, ideas, themes you have found and theory’s you’ve put together on the strange dark and mysterious
In the last two cases, panic is what killed them. The elements only helped out.
Both cases have classic signs of the hysteria exhibited by some who find themselves lost. It is a very real, documented phenomenon where normally level-headed people will cast off the very items they need while tearing through the woods trying to get themselves "unlost."
I'm writing a book on outdoor survival for families... well actually two books - one for the parents and one for the children.
One of the points I make in the book is that "lost" is a psychological entity. Picture yourself traveling in the woods for whatever reason:
You're walking along. Everything is fine. Two minutes later, you look around and aren't sure exactly where you are. A little doubt creeps in. You keep walking, either trying to backtrack or to keep going. Two minutes further, you are convinced you are lost. What changed in those four minutes? Only your thought process. Your state of mind.
I grew up in a remote area in the Adirondacks. I spent a large proportion of my time in the woods and I got "lost" on several occasions. I've been there - physically and psychologically. It's scary as hell.
As a child I was taught to stop and build a campfire if I got lost, and every time I got mixed up, I did so. Never even lit any of them. The process of gathering fuel and setting up the fire took my mind off my main predicament for a bit; it provided the comfort of knowing I had a heat source; and it kept me in one place long enough to figure out where I goofed up my navigation situation. Every time I was lost, I got home the same day unassisted.
In closing, I will quote my late Uncle David, a master woodsman - "You can't get lost if you don't care where you are."
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Thats gotta be a record somewhere. It took MrBallen 6 months to outperform people who’ve done this for a decade
@@nottooobvious4890 ikr
Hes must that good
It is said that people taking their clothes off when freezing it is not a rare occurrence. If you have ever been out in the cold too long you'd know that certain parts of your body feel extremely hot, they call this "paradoxical undressing."
It is like some people who try to climb Mt. Everest or other Mt. and start getting crazy and try to remove their clothes. It,s like their body does not feel the cold.
Also part of that is trying to stay dry. Swimming after getting undressed doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Is there any other way around? Often when my body hits with extreme sunlight after a while it feels like the skin which is exposed to sunlight is freezing.
@@dontworryaboutit4255 "Swimming after getting undressed doesn't make a whole lot of sense."
Maybe not in this context, but nude swimming *is* a thing.
If you haven't noticed, this guy likes to spin scientifically proven or fairly obvious solutions with "aliens moved them 20 miles into the woods" or "they were running from bigfoot". Even the sources he lists usually have the solution of what happened, but he leaves those parts out of the video.
I feel like a lot of these stories about kids being found outside of the estimated radius could boil down to near-kidnappings. I feel like someone (the person peering behind the tree) beckoned him out, he followed, and they walked together to where he was found. And then he either changed his mind or he decided it wasn’t worth all the hassle with the search party and he leaves him. At least that’s where my mind goes.
This is exactly what I think happened. An abductor picked up Jackie and then for some reason - hassle, conscience, lost the kid - left him at the power plant. 2 year olds are not tall and that trek through the swamp would've left him wet and muddied... unless he was carried. Or teleported.
what i have learned from this channel: dont walk into a swamp unless you are a kid being protected by giants or friendly animals.
Imo the animals were actually skinwalkers that lured him in for dinner and bigfoot saved him
@@stefanemanuel5606 after reading your comment, this is what I also choose to believe. Bigfoot is a good dude
@@MummaQuan I don't even believe in bigfoot but most of these forest story's i end up with the conclusion (that sounds like bigfoot)
giants are not relluy
@@stefanemanuel5606 Shrek saved him
Never separate the group! You all go in together and you all come out together. There are no exceptions!
This man is the only guy that can make me feel safe watching something scary
I hope for your case you're not a dude..or over 18
@@Dan-n-Duke-jr2ic ?
@@Demclipz1He’s saying you’re a 😽
@@kingcharlesparody lmaooo I made this comment when I was 12
These experiences....they make us wonder whether there are different dimensions.....different species that can travel through different portals
I could listen to missing 411 stories from Mr.Ballen for hours on end. That would be sick to actually interview David Paulides!
This year has been a great year for crossovers (so many people I didn't think would have gotten together to talk and whatnot), so let's hold out some hope!! If they did a collab honestly I think it'd be great for the both of them. Especially since ballens stories feel true (its not all reddit horror stories, he likes some truth in there). It seems like that would be important to Paul :^)
His narrations of the missing 411 are pretty badass
I do that
I listen to missing 411 while cleaning my flat 😂
my two year old can’t even walk on flat ground without falling so great job Jacky haha
Agreed my two year old Can trip on nothing and everything all at once 😂
Two year olds are very good at tripping over their imagination.
My two year old trips on bed while SITTING
@@helpmereach1ksubsforwaterf823 MINE TOO. LORD DOES SHE GIVE ME A HEART ATTACK EVERY TIME
Mine also, walking or running and just trips on air.
My dumb ass missed the part about Sammy being a dog, and so I imagined her as a young woman wandering around the woods. And I was very annoyed they didn’t just ask her what happened to Cory.
Also, all these stories of children going missing and being watched, but not harmed and even guided by these unnamed animals are just too similar to be a coincidence.
So true on the children part. Really reminds me a bit of a concept in the manga berserk. In there an elf explains that people rooted deep in the physical world (so to speak) can't perceive elves. With children being too young to have a "steady" worldview, who knows if they may be able to experience and perceive things, we all have long forgotten when growing adult. Its also kinda telling how the younger kids are the more they tend to have imaginary friends. What if there is something in this world that most of us humans have lost connection to due to our upbringing, technology or way of live? Just slme food for thought.
Maybe it was a bigfoot Knows it sounds silly but is possible. Also the idea of elves could be possible. They definetly believe in them in Iceland , and the Irish too believe in faries,etc. These stories are ancient , just like some of the native american legends of skin walkers, sasquash, etc. There may indeed be something to the tories. Funny thing is, my late father would sometimes referr to cotton tail bunnies, chipmunks , or other small creatures as "The little people". Now my dad was german, not irish, so why he called them that don't know. Do know that some of the relatives were foresters in the Schwarzwald, so maybe that's were that comes from.
Also the Fae (fairies)
Bigfoot? Aliens? Ghosts? Who is it lol
Sasquatch
What I've learned from MrBallen this week:
Swamps with forests have portals to the shadow realm in them
Every day I wake up after an eerie night, I sit in the shower at 6 am and promise myself “I’m not gonna watch Ballen at night anymore”. It’s 8:15pm and I’m here. This is the fifth night in a row.
I feel that way too. I live in a ranch house (one floor), and I have a window that looks right at my bed. So every night before I fall asleep, I shine my phones flashlight into the window to “scare off any perverts”
I live alone in a one floor shack in Kansas and I watch this guy. Every time I do I check under my bed. The farm I own makes some weird noises.
@@johnseebeck8892 u ok?
@@johnseebeck8892 you'll probably end up in a ballen video. Fly high bro 🕊️🕊️
I would have never left the kid behind. He was in that scout master’s care and he was responsible for those kids. Good going!
Especially not when he was clearly not feeling well. He might have gotten poisoned by something he ate.
I’m in Boy Scouts the scoutmaster would’ve said hell no to that
All they had to do was tell everyone to stop and wait. It would teach the kids that it's good to care about everyone in the group and to not leave others alone in the woods.
@@cakebby18 I completely agree with you!
The rule when hiking with a group the slowest person should ALWAYS set the pace.
The adult leaders should have NEVER left a kid alone on a trail, doesn't matter what the kid said. His parents left him in your care and you left him alone. As a result a child is dead. Inexcusable.
What child are you talking about? No children died in this video
@@memostyle101 uhhh .... you obviously didnt pay attention to the video it’s literally the second story
@Frank Szálasi wtf shut up just because every woman in your life hates you doesn’t mean you need to treat a child’s death like it’s a joke
@Frank Szálasi get some fucking help , seriously... Not every child has the same effect it’s not the same children have personalities certain characteristics etc...they’re not toys wtf give birth and then you can speak on it !
@@JavierPerez-zr2ic lmfaoooo ok
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It’s weird to me the search parties in the second story didn’t immediately check the river. If you get lost, one of the best places to go is a water source. Everyone should know this, especially park rangers.
I've been binge watching this list of Missing 411, all day, this is video number 15, I've watched, and I've noticed something interesting about the children;
1) they tend to be around two years in age
2) they tend to be found great distances and even treacherous terrain or circumstances away
3) if they remember anything at all, or are willing or able to tell anything, it almost always has something to do with either
a) an animal helped them
b) animals were watching them/surrounding them
c) something nonhuman was helping them
So odd, definitely shows we do not know or understand half of what goes on in this World.
the things i saw when i was little made zero sense a lot of times as well as the dreams i had were waaayy too graphic for a kid my age, ive seen what ghosts fully look like, ive spoken to something that lives in dreams and ive heard things in the woods that made me go full fight or flight mode i still never knew what it was that did that
@dominoxheartsyouxnot theres natural cave systems around the US that are interconnected and are usually right near where many many people go missing, theres something in the caves that goes after people
I think it's large predatory birds. Pelicans, eagles etc
You do know Missing 411 was written by a man who was given the choice of quitting or being fired as a police officer, who thinks all abductions are done by Sasquatch, continues to claim people who have been found living or dead are still missing and cannot grasp the fact that people disappear in the wilderness through misadventure, on purpose, sheer stupidity and occasionally are helped to disappear by four footed carnivores or two footed assholes. David Paulides is not to be believed.
a lot of the kids also are found with their clothes messed with meaning undressed or partially and with only one shoe on positioned in weird ways never finding an obvious cause of death pointing towards faul play
Jacky said that the person he was following was a giant but considering he was only 2, any normal human being (5'10"-6'2") would look like a super big giant to him 😳
It wasnt a human being it was shrek
@@jesusv.3460 😂 this made my day
Oh, def. When I was in 1st grade I thought 4th graders were basically adults, so it's fair to say it was someone much older and taller than him.
Yea but the child was around adults, I could be wrong but I don’t think he calls his parents giants
So he thinks adults are giants?
Me: Getting scared listening to MrBallen
My family: Stop listening to that stuff if it scares you
Me: Goes back to listening to MrBallen
so true
Exact scenario that plays out between me and my 4 yr old. I think my kid has finally given up on me😂
bruh i never sleep at night anymore and am so addicted to his stories i cant stop watching him.
Definitely me!!
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I love your background with the pixy dust falling. It looks magical.
I also love your stories ❤️ ♥️.
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My mother who grew up in extreme poverty in mexico,has told me stories of “duendes” or elfs that would appear to her as a child when they would play in the woods.
Yes and las brujas the witches
I find these things fascinating. I’m from the US however I’m intrigued by other cultures and beliefs. I’m also a believer in if so many say it then there has to be some truth to it. I would LOVE to hear your families stories!!
ok pocho
Your mother needs psychiatric help.
@Michelle many tribal people in Canada and the states also have stories of small people. and also stories of hairy giants. we are not the only ones around
Btw, for anyone wondering why Jeff was taking off his clothes; a symptom of hypothermia is starting to feel super hot, and ripping your clothes off to “cool down”
yeah i'm thinking he started hallucinating because of hypothermia and thought he felt better and could still make it and knew it wasn't that far (i think the guide and he mos def talked about not being that far off.) Disoriented + the hallucinations.... recipe for bad things to happen, especially in the wild... still sad tho
That makes sense. Any thoughts as to why he walked so far off in the first place?
Also a symptom of alcohol poisoning
Ok what if he was being chased the gunshot did nothing so he took off his shirt and threw it down (like you do with cougars) to distract it for a sec got hyperthermia and then got rid of the rest of his clothes when he felt too warm.
@@mxr6652 maybe he was being chased by something, idrk
When a person is freezing to death, the muscles that are keeping the blood in the body's core get exhausted and just let the blood flow back out to the extremities and skin. This makes the person feel hot and they'll take off their clothes. It's called "paradoxical undressing." Extreme hypothermia can also cause confusion, which might explain taking everything out of the pack and laying it out.
Or he and his backpack fell into the water so he took everything out of it so it could dry out then confusion from hypothermia from falling into the water caused him to walk away from his pack. Took off gloves, socks, and hat because they were wet. After awhile, paradoxical undressing, which is when hypothermia causes you to get an extreme heat flash right before dying, caused him to try and take his coat and pants off right before or as he died. Looks to me like a no-doubt case of hypothermia, IMO. Poor kid. He was let down by those who were supposed to make the safe & life saving decisions by being allowed to be left alone in the wilderness.
After watching so many of Mr. Ballen's 411 videos, I almost hope what the children are saying about these creatures is true because if we factor in the obvious fact that they couldn't have covered these distances alone, the obvious non-paranormal alternative is, in my opinion, far more disturbing. We have decades of research that demonstrates children have a tendency to suppress traumatic memories in favour of constructed ones they're better psychologically-equipped to understand. The idea is that the child can more readily integrate what happened into pre-existing schema and hopefully address the trauma with the few rudimentary coping mechanisms they have at their disposal, preventing their fledgling personality from completely derailing this early in development.
Meaning..?
@@nima9340 kids experiencing so tragic to them they make themselfs think it was less scary like beings taking them somewhere.
The boogyman comes in different forms.
Just a thought...
Also, kids are raised to stay away from strangers. Now what should a little kid do when they hear a bunch of strangers walking towards them yelling their name? Its possible the kid could see them as dangerous.
If one foolishly believes in the "paranormal," then one is subjecting itself to a realm that's in their own heads, and not in a sound, reasonable, rational place.
Adults underestimate the amount of ground a child can cover in a small amount of time.
Yes, as a former child care worker, I can tell you children can go far fast. They can run faster than we can and easily disappear before we can even blink.
@@grandcatsmama3421 I'll bet you $4500 that I can outrun a 2yo ;)
@@grandcatsmama3421 My little grandson, 3 years old, can run like a scared deer. Amazing how fast he is, I cannot keep up with him. In just a very short time he could cover at least 1/4 mile.
@Couple screws Loose Sorry, but you're wrong. Playing around in the woods, I've had many a little one make way faster time than me.
They're smaller, making them able to duck under things I would have to climb over. They're light weight, so they can skitter across logs that would collapse under my weight and across mud that would sink me up to my knees. And their tiny feet can take them through paths way too narrow for me to pass.
I would race my niece and nephew up and down the driveway, beating them every time. But, trudging through the swamp on an "Archaeology expedition", or "hunting dinosaurs", even a professional woodsman like me struggled to keep up. And with my current health, there's no way in hell I'd be able to catch a toddler that decides to take off; like my 3 year old cousin who decided to follow a bird a few years back. She saw a bird when we were hiking and bolted away from the group a good 500 feet off the trail into the woods. Her dad and mom were only halfway to where she had stopped when she got back to them. She had stopped because she got distracted by a flower; which she picked and gave to her daddy.
@Couple screws Loose Oh, I agree she was carried. I'm just saying kids that age are faster than most adults especially through terrain like that. The condition she was in and where she was found makes it obvious she had to be carried there.
My theory about Jeff from the second story:
When Jeff said he didn't feel well, he meant that he had diarrhea. So before the scout master came down the trail, he couldn't hold it and went into the woods to relieve himself. Then he got lost. This explains why his pants were undone and also maybe why his socks were off. He may have gotten something gross on his socks and took them off because of that. He may have been washing his stuff in the river because he was embarrassed about showing up to his troop smelling like that.
That's my theory at least :P
Makes sense to me. That or something similar could easily have happened. Jeff steps off the trail to relieve himself, gets turned around, and heads down hill like a good scout. He finds the stream, decides to follow it, but is tired, takes off his pack and puts it on the rock, fully intending to come back for it later. Unfortunately, he's so tired and lost, he never does. Exhausted, shivering, maybe having fallen in the cold water, he slumps against a tree.
or maybe someone took his bag and placed it in the river. In an attempt to get it back he may have taken his socks off and tried to swim out to it, but was taken by the current ... or maybe he thought the water was too cold and gave up
He could have become delirious afterwards and succumbed to hypothermia. People suffering from severe hypothermia enter a stage where they begin to take their clothes off and he might have just done that
The theory that Jeff had diarrhea is plausible to me. I was sick once and had lost so much fluid too fast and my body shut down. This could’ve happened to Jeff. He could have walked off trail and tried to clean up in the river. Being disoriented and lost, his body was further taxed and he succumbed to the elements. Good theory Dorian Flednam.
A goog one 👍
I think Sammy ran off on Cory and Cory wandered so far searching for the dog. Losing your buddy’s dog would certainly get you to wander through “impossible” terrain.
it doesn't explain standing in the swamp water long enough to freeze to death in one night, when there's a trail close by. I really think the only reasonable explanation there is that he was hiding.
@@straecat I’m pretty sure the mortician can check to see if there was adrenaline pumping through their body because when you die, it can’t get absorbed back into the bloodstream and I’m wondering why they didn’t check for that. I definitely feel like he was hiding
It's crazy that even if he was being pursued he had a shot gun and a dog. If it was an animal surely that would be enough to scare them off?
Sam was Jim's dog, the dog was found a couple days later. The dog was well trained . The dog passed about 3 years ago.
That blue SUV I sold to Jim. This story isn't as mysterious as told, it's sadly something that happens a few times a year.
@@richardleach1706 isn't it weird that we just accept the fact that several times a year, in every part of the country, people just go missing under some very weird circumstances? I've spent enough time out in the middle of nowhere to know how fast things can go south but seems like it's just way too often and way to weird. It's bad enough when a hiker goes missing and they find a body at the bottom of a cliff he was hiking past and deduce he must've slipped and fell. But all these stories where people disappear and end up 10-15 miles away and have no memory of how they got there... Wtf
Nobody runs 14 miles through a swamp except Bigfoot. Love how you tell Bigfoot stories without saying Bigfoot.❣️
Lol I wish it was vig foot. Something much much darker
@@Nerotheraccoon what
Can't tell a story with something's name when that something doesn't exist. Bigfoot is nothing but a myth, another tall tale told by boring old men who had nothing better to do that day, and chose to make up ghost stories.
My theory for the second story. Is that after Jeff sat down he realized he was out of water so he went to that river to fill his canteen. He then fell into the water getting his clothes, socks/boots, and pack wet. He then put his pack on the rock and took everything out to see what was wet and continued to leave them out to dry. Meanwhile he was still wet, so he went to the tree and took off his wet socks and loosened his clothes so they would not stick to him so he wouldn’t get hypothermia. But in the end died from exposure.
Feel free to critique anything that doesn’t fit with your thoughts
That’s a very good theory
This actually might be it
Would be a good theory except for the fact that the tree was 1 kilometer away from where his pack was
LOL. He was out of water 10 minutes from the destination and, being sick, felt it a good time to break with the pack (rather than ask someone for a bit of water). It is obvious dude was sick, shit his pants, and wanted privacy to wash up before seeing his schoolmates again. The scout code doesn't include not gossiping at school the next day that Tony, or whoever, shit himself on the hike.
@@unidentifiedguy8253 whyd he walk a full 1km away from his stuff then?
1st story: Sasquatch - 2nd story: Sasquatch -3rd story: Sasquatch
Yes, yes and yes
3rd story what happened to the gun if sasquatch not that I don't agree with you
@Lilith Kenis, so, Sasquatch likes to play hide & seek with tiny humans. Nice. And Sasquatch likes to test medium size humans willpower. Curious. But Sasquatch likes to hunt large humans with shotguns ! Dark.
4th story: QuatchSaS.
@@huskythrone869 my thoughts; the guy in the third story may only have had bird shot with him. For whatever reason he spots a Sasquatch, the Sasquatch charges, or acts agressively,possibly in response to a warning shot? The hunter realizes he ain't got enough gun, and flees. At some point he throws away the heavy but useless shot gun, maybe to show the Sasquatch he means no harm? But it's too late. He hides in the tall grass like all the other prey, waiting for the cavalry that never arrives.
Finally a man with a great sense of humour. Telling “true” stories as a real person, and quite well I might add. What can I say, the man IS Legend and I’m hooked for life.
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2 year olds do have imaginations but they don’t know how to lie yet. There is definitely truth to Jackie’s story.
With #2, another possibility is that he was experiencing some sort of cardiac event. As someone born with a common cardiac defect, I speak from experience - when things go awry (often during sustained physical activity), at first you feel uneasy, weak and very hot, even in cold environments. Then unless you get treatment your ability to think coherently, coordinate your limbs (which ultimately go numb), and even see, steadily declines until you eventually lose consciousness. Children usually have little experience recognizing the symptoms, may feel embarrassed voicing them, or simply not have the strength or brain function to articulate what's happening. This could explain why he had to stop on the spot so shortly after resting - his cardiac state would not tolerate exercise. Sitting did not help this time and feeling rising panic and confusion he tried to get up and make his way to an adult but couldn't orient himself, and was simply incapable of calling out. He would have been acting in a confused, dreamlike state made worse by rapid hypothermia.
This cascade happened to me many times as a child and it was utterly terrifying and confusing. I can recognize the initial symptoms for what they are now but it took a lot of practice and many embarrassing experiences, and I still find it very difficult to notify others in social situations for so many reasons.
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Makes sense but surely an autopsy was performed.
@jackop7883 don't be such an a-- and bully! Just because you are unable to have a deep thought doesn't mean others can't.
Jack....too difficult to focus for the few seconds it took to read that comment?
I found out about Paulides and missing 411 about 2 years ago. I watched everything I could it was so interesting. And even tho I've heard all these stories before , you have a way of telling stories that just pulls you in. Love this series.
Omg same! Its just so weird something weird is definitely going on and the fact the FBI really looks into them also they know something is going on! So creepy
The “awful dark” reminds me of the story “the animals watched me” in episode 13 of missing 411. It seems like these kids were pulled into another dimension that while walking a short distance through it, let them cover a lot of distance in the physical world when they came out of it. It makes me think of “the upside-down” or some similar concept.
Or it was big foot again.
ever seen stranger things? lol
Lets not discount the possibility it was just some regular old leprechauns up to their old tricks again. Their real assholes sometimes.
Reminds me of “American Gods” by Paul Gaiman
Or maybe it was Bigfoot who lead him through the awful dark?
LolaBowla I was thinking of the same thing. I just watched that episode.
I kept wondering if Jacky's clothing was wet when he was found (or if there was evidence of his clothing having been wet). That's a detail I would love to know.
If you're cold enough, you'll start to feel extremely hot. That's likely why he was taking his clothes off.
@@ashleybirchall9132 no… Jacky was the little boy that was found on the island in the swamp. Jeff was the Boy Scout that was in the cold
Probably it wasn't any wetter than you would expect from someone who had spent the night outdoors.
meaning his cloths had dried overnight while he hid on the island from all the wiled animals, with his friend the giant
mind you a 2yo can probably walk on matted grass and other clumps that an adult would sink straight through
@David Walter = "That detail" ... is one you, or anyone, will never know.
I live 8 min from that town and we're he was found by that plant its severely wet. We like to hunt by that plant in the winter bc its all hard and dry.
I’ve been watching you before bedtime, and you put me to sleep every time! I’m a Night Shift insomniac, and your stories, no matter how horrifying and scary, just make me feel safe and sleepy. I appreciate what you do! You’re so talented!
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MrBallens gonna have a new UA-cam video on “The Strange Disappearance of the Like button”.
We must be gentle with our abuse
The like button is pressing charges for being touched inappropriately...LMFAO
@@alexsandrsenaviev4529 yeah, where in conclusion his/her body would be found a few miles away from last seen...shoes and socks were off along with the shirt and pants, folded neatly, except for one shoe would be missing. a few years go by, and 2 hikers found a dead animal (looking like either a mountain lion or panther) wearing the other missing shoe! The two hikers were in shock and they both knew that they had to report this to me authorities however, they were also both very nervous. I mean what are they supposed to report to them, that as they were hiking down the trail they stumbled upon a dead deer wearing one size 4 blue and white Nike on its left foot? They would've put them in the looney bin. So they both decided that they'd tell them that they found the sneaker on the ground next to a dead deer. Both of them never talked about it again. Until years later, sick in the hospital...growing weaker and weaker as everyday passes, suffering from lung cancer. He asked for a moment along with his only son, and told him the TRUTH ABOUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ALL THOSE YEARS AGO. He passed away 4 days later in his sleep after doctors decided to induce a coma so he can be given a very big dose of morphine mixed with fentanyl to keep him comfortable and outta pain. He was also given a rather high dose of Propaphypol which is a medication that keeps the patient asleep.
lmao
If he was feeling sick/tired after such a short hike, maybe Jeff was having some kind of medical condition that made him really confused and that’s why he went of the path and did weird things.
Alternatively he may have taken some drugs before the hike. He was 16 after all. Acid, some other type of hallucinogen, bath salts, etc. There are many.
Some other ppl were saying he might of had hypothermia
Which is why he should never have been left alone in the first place. It takes something SERIOUS to stop a teenager in their tracks, very sad this was not recognized. May this be a future lesson, " Leave no man behind".
Is it possible that he had a new onset, and thus previously undiagnosed case of hypoglycemia or diabetes? When a person's blood glucose gets messed up, it can make them act super illogical, and out of character.
@@crystalpreuett9539 yep, I lost a good friend a few years back from insulin shock. He went missing for two days while out elk hunting in some deep woods. He was 36 and an experienced outdoorsman; he just got caught up when he forgot his insulin and ended up going into insulin shock. We found him slumped alongside a river, sitting with his back against a fallen tree, in an small open meadow like area with the sun shining down on him... as far as places to pass go, it was absolutely beautiful; we should all be so lucky.
The first story reminds me of the little kid who just recently (maybe 2 years ago or so???) went missing from his yard and was found days later on a small island type thing in the middle of a swampy area which you also had to pass through a bunch of thorny bushes to get to and when he was found and asked how he got there and how he survived (as in how he wasn’t starving and the fact it was really cold out and he wasn’t dressed for the occasion - not mention he had no scratches or cuts from the thorns) he said a big “bear” took care of him, gave him food and kept him warm... in both cases I’m thinking something along the lines of what we call Bigfoot cared for/protected these small children
I strongly agree!
Is not needeed o reach to anormal explanations for this, if you search for "animals adopt baby" or "animals kidnaped baby" even here on youtube, you will find that is enough common that animals will treat other species babys as their own. You dont even need to search on internet for it, we all know some story of a dog nursing a cat, a cat nursing a duck, etc.
So i think these kids were lost and then found or kidnaped by an bear or monkey.
Absolutely!
Bigfoot it's got to be.
I'm pretty sure MrBallen covered that storey. If not that same one it was one almost identical to it.
Totally had to be a Bigfoot. There really is no other explanation.
His voice seems perfect for telling these stories. For me he doesn’t even get to the scary part and I have shivers going down my spine and am checking my room for things
I would check your room for things too especially if you have expensive things I would check them and steal them from u
I love how I'm like "oh yes, I'm going to be a nature enthusiast and start hiking" then I listen to stories like these, I'm like, no, there's enough videos on UA-cam for me to appreciate nature 🤣
@Missy Rose😂😂😂
What confuses me in the second story is why would the Scout Master leave ANYONE behind.
i know write like anything could happen in a matter of minutes depending on the situation not that im necesarlly blambing the scout master but if he does that hes not a scout master hes A SCOUT
@@deborahdalton12
He's not even a scout! Don't they use the buddy system and NEVER leave anyone alone?
Right? I had a boyfriend who was in scouts and my cousins and my best friend were too. They were in the same troop and my boyfriend was an Eagle Scout which is the highest rank. A couple of times my boyfriend was slowing them down because he was a perfectionist. The troop would give him crap for a while and then my friend would call me and jokingly tell me to give him an "incentive" so he would get it in gear and they could leave lol. They went on a ton of trips and they always had stories about them all having to stop and do something or all slow foen because someone was falling behind. I've never heard of a Scoutmaster leaving a scout behind, especially not two, and especially not when scout 1 has no idea that scout 2 is relying on them.
These stories are made up....
@@purplekermit2162 wait what?
Jackie wasn’t in “The Awful Dark”, he was in “The Upside Down”.
Nice one
He was on the other side of the mirrors
Lol
Freaky
Sort of like stranger things, lol