We the chillers, (McG’s followers to be specific) are happy on how you went down with this issue and for that you’ve earned your self a subscriber. Big up brother!!
Broe I don't know how I bumped into this channel but thanks God I did, I love the way you layed everything down in a simple, respectful and understandable menner from the viewer's perspective. I fully agree with you on all the point and even worse on the attect Amanda did against MacG who was an interviewer just doing what all interviewers do which is asking questions and interacting with the guest.....m
Follow him. This spells out that we will never defeat the scourge of violence against women in this country. Im always dismayed by the mentality that's always on display by you lot.
The word is ACCOUNTABILITY. Just because I look at a guy from across the street and I feel he is a criminal, doesn't mean the guy is a criminal. Mac G and the crew had no knowledge of these allegations. The interview has triggered her and the fact that she was trending for 3 days from it. I understand she was emotional when she went on Instagram and decided to attack Mac G. Take accountability and say I was wrong. My fight is with the person that I am accusing of causing harm to me, not the interviewer that had no knowledge about the allegations. I don't understand her calling Mac G a nobody kodwa you are calling on people to come forward about their rape stories for a "nobody." For someone who grew up being bullied for being fat as a teenager and was made to feel like she's a nobody, that was really a low blow. I was telling my mom the other day that before one decides to be an activist for rape, GBV and they are survivors. One needs to put work into healing. Healing is an every day job kodwa one won't go around projecting their pain, trauma on everyone.
Man, first time knowing of your existence... But damn, I must commend you for your rational way of breaking down this issues from all possible angles. The world will be a much better place if we all can have people with your ability in leadership positions to rationally look at issues, before just reacting recklessly or prematurely without giving thorough thought to a matter.
I fully agree with you. How can you believe a rape that happened in a relationship even before the victim provides any evidence? Secondly, why Amanda requested all the victims to come out, that can lead to many lies etc.
There use to be a show on SABC3 with a female host, she had a game on the show where she would put pictures of celebs & ask her guests if they would "smash or pass". No one ever said anything....
BRO, I thought you studied accounting as you have previously said, but man your legal system understanding is on another level... if I ever get in trouble with the law, I'd want you to represent me
@@godpenuel no bro I like the way you analyse things and put them into perspective. I am waiting for part 2. I think we as people should really learn and education ourselves more on consent….
I like how Penuel thinks...i sometimes disagree with his views but the guy is damn smart. I see most of his comments through my friend Sihle Mbathani...
yes, yes and yea to everything you said. Questioning the allerged victim is not protecting the allerged perpetrator , we cannot live in a society where herd mentality is the norm and being pragmatic is supposed "violence".
I've been following you based on the fact that you spoke sense and you played Rugby. You are spot on how you articulate yourself on this matter. Siyabuyela!
Well said, Penuel. My thoughts exactly but you articulated them so succinctly and within the parameters of the law. Black twitter would trash this video because it's logical and NOT based on emotion. Continue to teach the masses brother. You are a good speaker. 👌🏾
Very well put, I think the number of women who have been sexuality assaulted is extremely high and the desperation to see men be punished is also high so women generally will make an emotional choice to support anyone crying rape without any logic or proof at all. I'm a women and the way Amanda went about telling her story and throwing damaging accusations at MacGyver without proof or out of spite makes it hard to be on her side. It makes rape seem like a weapon that can be thrown at any man whenever triggered. Most of the time the truth is somewhere in the middle and she has made it more difficult for real victims to be believed. I'm not saying she is lying but the way she is going about it makes it really hard for the movement against GBV.
Love your comments & the dangers of carelessly attacking other men, due to personal past experiences. We need to train a higher EQ all around coz what I hate the most is when good men & good women bash each other... when there are bad ppl we can isolate & deal with properly.
@Nontsikelelo....yeah...true what you say!!! Going forward, Genuine Rape cases might be trivialised because of this he says she says bull.... Thats my only gripe...
Very sensible and well thought out sentiments mfowethu. You have managed to capture the nuances of this situatuation without taking sides and overall trying to be as objective as possible...
What an informative session thanks brother for Nation building... I think we should look at ways to ensure police take their work serious than just say believe her...
In 2004 I used to attend court hearing at Mahikeng Magistrate Court just to understand how the law works. I stopped going there when I got to witness a man thrown to prison for 20 years after an interpreter messed up an old man (the accused dad). The old man said that the girl's parent came to his home and informed him that his son has broken their daughter's leg (literally meaning that the young man impregnated their daughter); and therefore they demanded R20k from him or else they are going to open up a rape case again the young man. The motive behind the R20k was that the poor old man managed to build a 6 room house for his family; and the young lady's parents thought that the old man is rich.
Very interesting take on the matter, I also appreciate the fact that you spoke truth which is very hard to come across these days, I'm officially a fan
Subscribed! Magnificent analysis! Please in your next one talk about "pretty privilege" if you can, I have been thinking about this, would people have been this quick to say "I believe you", if it was a not so attractive( by societal standard), overweight, dark skinned girl.Lots of girls came out saying "im triggered".
@Thato...you make a "smashing" point... Lol!!! . It's societal standards. A kind of human programming so to speak - or rather state!!! {To quote another...!!! } a squirrel is nothing more than a well groomed rat with a bushy tail... Just more acceptable and I guess more believable...
💯 I totally agree as i have been saying that Amanda was just embarrassed now because she is supposedly a respectable woman married and because she knows deep down there's no truth to that hence wanting to sue..people go to these extremes to defend their honour when there's none.Amanda must be taken to task for this
My brother exactly 100% she was embarrassed she tries to figure a way out to neutralized the situation,, for fact dat now she is a respected married woman . So she figured how to retaliate defusing the embarrassment
That’s y it’s important to tell your husband about your past coz everything has its way of coming out.You don’t have to go into detail but you can simply say I dated this person.
@@fortunesimbi5141 now she wants to settle out of court so what do you think is happening. Of course there is no truth to her allegations you probably heard that it has come to light that she visited Jub Jub 5 times in jail the girl is s lier
Man Penual, the sobriety with which you you spoke about this is just commendable. Much respect to you sir! You’re a much better man than myself. Okay then, with that said…2 years is long time to rape 🤧 c’mon we’re not children.
I don't know but common sense tells me that a Woman would distance herself from a man that has abused her especially sexually, Didn't she visit him when he was in jail?
I'm a very sexually liberated woman but I wouldn't appreciate a man saying they smashed me when saying they had sex with me not because they're taking anything away from me but because I don't use that kind of language and I don't appreciate people using that language on me
Some are scared. Some men threaten them. Some depend on the man financially. Some have kids with him. Some are hoping he'll change. There are many reasons.
I'm a women and I don't UNDERSTAND that aswll 😭, once someone rapes you, tell your parents /or someone you trust. 💀And don't move in with a man if you're not ready to give up the CAKE💀
Amanda is mistaken in calling macg a rapist yes, however; macg is the main instigator by firstly using her name in his video captions and asking jub jub if he smashed to which jub jub uncomfortably answers 'ja she is one of them'... that line of questioning has made many of his guest uncomfortable, but he pursues in the interest of locker room banter, a feat he does not need in order to be succesfull, mind you he has an intellectual comedian and ghost lady to up the value of his show. its easy to read the room and grow up. it would not have hurt macg to edit the mentions of amanda out and remove her name from his video, but he did so anyways knowing that the millions who watched amandas video would go and watch his video for refference, it is a snakey move on macgs part, especially if we are to consider that jub jub is trauma trigger to amanda. EQ is a high expectation for a trauma case honestly. If he indeed goes against gbv why upload that interview? its clear that she doesnt want herself mentioned or captioned, why is it hard for macg to respect that?
I think if he did that, they would have kinda made it look like "HE IS PROTECTING THE ACCUSED" by hiding the part that AMANDA is talking about since it had already aired on the DStv channel. And well, in her vid she mentioned them all sooooooo....... I guess tit for tat!!!!
@Lindi Lichen, I fully agree with your angle. MacG as the host of this show said, he does it to all the guests, With relationships questioning. He is very demeaning, disrespectful. However Jub Jub should have responded better, He should have said, we were in a relationship for this period,
These things zabo GBV got people messed up,I mean women are getting away with lots of B.S. in the name of GBV. Kshuthi all of us have been raped (especially if you grew up ekasi)🤷....What took you so long? " I was scared"🤔Oh! Ok, AWSASABI MANJE??
"by definition that's not rape because you didn't say anything" 😲. It really does seem like we have one idea of rape as a country , where clothes are forcefully ripped off. Yet we witness friends, neighbour's in relationships where you seem something is off. You see the girl stay in the relationship, while you can see she is scared of her partner. I don't understand how then rape for two years is unlikely, it can go on for a very long time . How can you have consensual sex with someone you're scared of? I really don't see an abusive partner asking permission from his partner to have sex, you either give it up or he takes it from you, so that there tells should tell us there will be times where you give into sex and won't say anything. We know leaving an abusive relationship is not easy, why then are we now judging the time a person takes to leave a toxic relationship? Only Amanda and Jub Jub know what happened. Rape for two years and longer, that's not unlikey. That's our reality.
@@zizo_zizo788 2 years is unlikely 2 months is likely Everyday for 2 years straight they rape you? Are you hearing yourself? And also why date Cassper? Another famous Rapper Won't it bring back the Trauma
@@2melo194 1.Being raped for two years does not mean your abuser has sex with you everyday, it means the sex is not consensual for two years. 2. I understand myself perfectly, our government needs to do more to educate our poeple on rape and the different ways that woman are viloted sexually. 3. I don't know why Amanda dated CASSPER. What I do know is that life moves on and woman have to move along with it, not necessarily meaning that they have healed. I mean we have women with children, woman in marriages suffering break downs and having to open up about being raped to their partners... I don't know what happened between Jub Jub and Amanda, being raped for two years in South Africa is our reality. Us the fans are so wrapped up in picking sides, we're concerned about our favourite celebrity. There's nothing unique or unlikey about these rape allegations.
Remember Jub Jub has a criminal offence history and our people are ready to crucify him without evidence. I watched the podcast after seeing Amanda Du Pont's video, I found nothing wrong with what Jub Jub said as I saw he even regrets how things ended between himself and Amanda over Kelly. Bro if you notice the guy showed a level of respect for Amanda but just answered the questions as they came. It was not his intention to maybe cause harm to her reputation. All I am concluding through my observation, Amanda is protecting her current livelihood and her past secrets. Anyone who has secrets about her would meet her wrath. Amanda is ashamed about her dark past and has buried it.
saying the word smash with my friends whn we are chilling and talking about the problems of the heart is now a bad word this world is going crazy instead of advancement to civilization its going the opposite
I’m 100% agree with what you saying bro…I personal see Amanda Du Point”a gold digger” ..as they will settle out of court ..she’ll want to be paid..forgetting that she has ruined Jub Jub’s career & his name…she’s a pure gold digger who seeks fame in a wrongful way!!!
I won't agree with what you said about celebs crying rape... but I will say that celebs are normal ppl, like everyone else. That means they have high emotions, make silly decisions & can say the wrong things. The biggest problem is that they have big platforms & can damage other people's lives when they say or do silly & reckless things.
The law should have a window period of reporting rape cases, say maybe 6 months or less maximum. This thing of reporting a rape case years later is BS in my opinion!
Ohhh man my guy, err you came tlean👌 with the facts, the fact that she has said that Jub did'nt not r*pe her before on record, and now here she is withdrawing her statement also on record is very much preposterous, this is a clear give away of how the female imperative is ruled by emotions, yes females can think logically but their nature prioritise their emotions first ,and sadly they have little influence towards that, you said something about EQ which is very important, something they logically understand, something their emotions knows nothing about, its that plus the fact that the laws are female friendly(Guilty until proven innocent). Men are in trouble🙆🏽♂️
You bring up these points to a normal person with any common sense in a conversation and that person will agree that those are very important and valid points. Even though they may have some equally important and valid opposing points. The one thing you can be sure about is that they will both agree that this is very complex and there's a lot of grey. Unfortunately that has never been the case with me when I've made these exact points on the topic and listening to the opposing points, really giving them some thought, asking questions to make sure that I understand them well enough and most importantly doing all of that in a genuine and conversational manner, making a real effort to get to some sort of mutual agreement and understanding and avoid getting personal where there's no need or no understandable reason for. All I got in response 99% of the time was "you're part of the problem"..."you're an example of how disgusting men are"..."you sound rapey/you're probably a rapist/someone close to you is a rapist and that's who you're defending" and the most popular one is "you're a rape apologist", which I've been called like dozens of times over this whole Jub Jub case. And I'm certain I'm not the only one, I've even seen girls who were accused of being apologists for making these points. I had already come to expect that though because I know that these people view anyone who does not agree with them as an enemy. And goal isn't proving or disproving a point, it isn't coming to an understanding or agreement or agreeing to disagree or winning a debate, their main and only objective is to destroy the enemy by any and all means possible including deliberate and targeted lies, hiding and turning a blind eye to crucial facts, ignoring their own contradictions and fallacies, making baseless accusations. These people people always hit us with ''You're a part of the problem" but in truth they are the ones who are a huge and crucial part of the problem because the people who make false accusations fully rely on them. They are the ones who make it harder for real victims to say something.
God Penuel... Have respect for only two people on this planet at this point in time. Yourself quite obviously for your balanced and objective take on matters at hand!!! Amanda Dupont for not kissing back "hungrily" for two whole years. The both of you are my two favourite people for now....
I did Believe Amanda du pont until she accuses MacG of rape without evidence. Then she said Smash is a degrading word. When Female UA-camrs like Mihlali have been using that word too. It's SPOILT BRAT BEHAVIOR THIS Suing everyone
Why am I seeing this actor of skeem sam in this girl.... 🤔🤔🤔..... Is she acting kwi skeem sam or that's her in real life as well???..... Wenzini uMacG🤔🤔🤔🤔
We the chillers, (McG’s followers to be specific) are happy on how you went down with this issue and for that you’ve earned your self a subscriber. Big up brother!!
A subscriber from me too
Nina ma chillers think you are something special ne???
@@fezilenkabinde9087 we don’t think we are special, we know we are. We are the most special and important people on earth.
Broe I don't know how I bumped into this channel but thanks God I did, I love the way you layed everything down in a simple, respectful and understandable menner from the viewer's perspective. I fully agree with you on all the point and even worse on the attect Amanda did against MacG who was an interviewer just doing what all interviewers do which is asking questions and interacting with the guest.....m
You are the only person who broke it down & I understood what's the deal...Thx u
My brother you just gained a follower, your analysis on this matter is on another level.
Follow him. This spells out that we will never defeat the scourge of violence against women in this country. Im always dismayed by the mentality that's always on display by you lot.
The word is ACCOUNTABILITY. Just because I look at a guy from across the street and I feel he is a criminal, doesn't mean the guy is a criminal. Mac G and the crew had no knowledge of these allegations. The interview has triggered her and the fact that she was trending for 3 days from it. I understand she was emotional when she went on Instagram and decided to attack Mac G. Take accountability and say I was wrong. My fight is with the person that I am accusing of causing harm to me, not the interviewer that had no knowledge about the allegations. I don't understand her calling Mac G a nobody kodwa you are calling on people to come forward about their rape stories for a "nobody." For someone who grew up being bullied for being fat as a teenager and was made to feel like she's a nobody, that was really a low blow. I was telling my mom the other day that before one decides to be an activist for rape, GBV and they are survivors. One needs to put work into healing. Healing is an every day job kodwa one won't go around projecting their pain, trauma on everyone.
Thank you for this. And I hope you've healed from your bullying experience.
Man, first time knowing of your existence... But damn, I must commend you for your rational way of breaking down this issues from all possible angles. The world will be a much better place if we all can have people with your ability in leadership positions to rationally look at issues, before just reacting recklessly or prematurely without giving thorough thought to a matter.
Love and blessings.
Listen to his break down of the recent Malemas speech at FNB
I fully agree with you. How can you believe a rape that happened in a relationship even before the victim provides any evidence? Secondly, why Amanda requested all the victims to come out, that can lead to many lies etc.
She's calling for a mob. It's a way to gang up on him & influence the general opinion.
If you are a woman, you should rather shut up because its only Amanda and Jubjub who know what happened.
Sttuuuuuuupiiiid question.
She never requested any victims to come out. Stop making up shit.
@@mmankolomokgotho7950 She did
Absolutely love how you analysed the whole thing without being emotional. Great content 👊🏾
I was watching this on TV and I had to come here to compliment your sound analysis of these events. Greatly put!
There use to be a show on SABC3 with a female host, she had a game on the show where she would put pictures of celebs & ask her guests if they would "smash or pass". No one ever said anything....
We suffer from extreme hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance, as a society. Ppl post and say anything for clout and to be deemed relevant.
BRO, I thought you studied accounting as you have previously said, but man your legal system understanding is on another level... if I ever get in trouble with the law, I'd want you to represent me
Hahaha... easy on the compliments! Hahaha
Hahaha... easy on the compliments! Hahaha
@@godpenuel no bro I like the way you analyse things and put them into perspective. I am waiting for part 2. I think we as people should really learn and education ourselves more on consent….
I like how Penuel thinks...i sometimes disagree with his views but the guy is damn smart. I see most of his comments through my friend Sihle Mbathani...
You just earned a new subscriber. I love how you broke down the whole situation piece by piece
Dankie Siyanqoba.
yes, yes and yea to everything you said. Questioning the allerged victim is not protecting the allerged perpetrator , we cannot live in a society where herd mentality is the norm and being pragmatic is supposed "violence".
Thank you very much for this, Lerato.
I've been following you based on the fact that you spoke sense and you played Rugby. You are spot on how you articulate yourself on this matter. Siyabuyela!
Bro, this is the second time I'm watching and listening to your opinions. I really like the way you express yours views, no emotions just great views.
Glad to see sensible people still exist. Soze ndibe taken because someone claims rape. Sorry but we all know false allegations are a thing
True, from word to word.
Indeed McG always asks the smash question just like he always asks "how do u want to be remembered...?"
Well said, Penuel. My thoughts exactly but you articulated them so succinctly and within the parameters of the law. Black twitter would trash this video because it's logical and NOT based on emotion. Continue to teach the masses brother. You are a good speaker. 👌🏾
Let's keep going!
I want to see this guy on Macg's podcast
He is smart and influential
Very well put, I think the number of women who have been sexuality assaulted is extremely high and the desperation to see men be punished is also high so women generally will make an emotional choice to support anyone crying rape without any logic or proof at all. I'm a women and the way Amanda went about telling her story and throwing damaging accusations at MacGyver without proof or out of spite makes it hard to be on her side. It makes rape seem like a weapon that can be thrown at any man whenever triggered. Most of the time the truth is somewhere in the middle and she has made it more difficult for real victims to be believed. I'm not saying she is lying but the way she is going about it makes it really hard for the movement against GBV.
Love your comments & the dangers of carelessly attacking other men, due to personal past experiences.
We need to train a higher EQ all around coz what I hate the most is when good men & good women bash each other... when there are bad ppl we can isolate & deal with properly.
@Nontsikelelo....yeah...true what you say!!! Going forward, Genuine Rape cases might be trivialised because of this he says she says bull.... Thats my only gripe...
Where ave you been ,I just subscribed right on the dot ,u have break it down nicely n truthfully my exact questions
Very sensible and well thought out sentiments mfowethu. You have managed to capture the nuances of this situatuation without taking sides and overall trying to be as objective as possible...
Wow! Wow! Wow! Very interesting. I take my hat off for you. You have unpacked this so beautifully. Thank you. 👍👍👌👌👏👏👏👏👏👏
I just had to click that SUBSCRIBE button, your analysis is sharp and impeccable.
Also,we need a body language expert to examine jubjub's body language he looked very uncomfortable when they talked about Amanda
Unpopular as it is, I share your views on this one bud. People don’t understand that credibility is everything ESPECIALLY in serious cases like this.
What an informative session thanks brother for Nation building... I think we should look at ways to ensure police take their work serious than just say believe her...
I love how you tackled this issue...you turned stones other people who dont want to.
In 2004 I used to attend court hearing at Mahikeng Magistrate Court just to understand how the law works. I stopped going there when I got to witness a man thrown to prison for 20 years after an interpreter messed up an old man (the accused dad). The old man said that the girl's parent came to his home and informed him that his son has broken their daughter's leg (literally meaning that the young man impregnated their daughter); and therefore they demanded R20k from him or else they are going to open up a rape case again the young man. The motive behind the R20k was that the poor old man managed to build a 6 room house for his family; and the young lady's parents thought that the old man is rich.
Jeez that's hectic! But these are the things we need to fix.
Very interesting take on the matter, I also appreciate the fact that you spoke truth which is very hard to come across these days, I'm officially a fan
Love and blessings.
@@godpenuel Just subribed to your channel. I am a big fan.
@@LifeWithZukie Thank you very much, Zukie. Stay blessed.
bcus of this so called cancel culture...he really nailed it
I love your content brother.
Penuel God...you vibrate at a different level brother🔥🙏👑
Keep giving us your takes!!!
Subscribed! Magnificent analysis!
Please in your next one talk about "pretty privilege" if you can, I have been thinking about this, would people have been this quick to say "I believe you", if it was a not so attractive( by societal standard), overweight, dark skinned girl.Lots of girls came out saying "im triggered".
Ishu 🔥🔥🔥
@@godpenuel Thanks a lot! 🙏🏽
@Thato...you make a "smashing" point... Lol!!! . It's societal standards. A kind of human programming so to speak - or rather state!!! {To quote another...!!! } a squirrel is nothing more than a well groomed rat with a bushy tail... Just more acceptable and I guess more believable...
@@dumisanisibanda4920 Yo, you will catch a case.Lol.Thanks.
Yup a cute little fragile articulate squirrel seem harmless.
Ya hey you got a good point on this one
It’s my first time here and wow this is great content.
A homie of mine spent 3yrs in prison on a false rape charge.. another guy almost went to jail, but he was luckier..
💔💔💔
This guy is so elequent, and well informed keep it up bro
💯 I totally agree as i have been saying that Amanda was just embarrassed now because she is supposedly a respectable woman married and because she knows deep down there's no truth to that hence wanting to sue..people go to these extremes to defend their honour when there's none.Amanda must be taken to task for this
My brother exactly 100% she was embarrassed she tries to figure a way out to neutralized the situation,, for fact dat now she is a respected married woman . So she figured how to retaliate defusing the embarrassment
That’s y it’s important to tell your husband about your past coz everything has its way of coming out.You don’t have to go into detail but you can simply say I dated this person.
Yeah
How do u know there is no truth in the allegations
@@fortunesimbi5141 now she wants to settle out of court so what do you think is happening. Of course there is no truth to her allegations you probably heard that it has come to light that she visited Jub Jub 5 times in jail the girl is s lier
I was not planning to watch the whole video but I did .You are very good.
You just gained yourself a subscriber Sir, loved your take on this matter
Love and blessings to you, Billie.
First time here, You so eloquent and interesting. Definitely looking forward to seeing more of your videos.
Man I finally found you on UA-cam, I've subscribed.
Love and blessings to you, Maxwell.
Love and blessings to you, Maxwell.
Man Penual, the sobriety with which you you spoke about this is just commendable. Much respect to you sir! You’re a much better man than myself.
Okay then, with that said…2 years is long time to rape 🤧 c’mon we’re not children.
Henry Kissinger: “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac.”
I don't know but common sense tells me that a Woman would distance herself from a man that has abused her especially sexually, Didn't she visit him when he was in jail?
Thank you for educating us objectively Bro….👏🏾
I'm a very sexually liberated woman but I wouldn't appreciate a man saying they smashed me when saying they had sex with me not because they're taking anything away from me but because I don't use that kind of language and I don't appreciate people using that language on me
Valid, also doesn't make the word violent or abusive
Thanks for clearing and a giving a context to this whole issue my brother, u are making a lot of sense.
Well spoken you deserve a bell my brother
Yes do we need more story from you thank you my brother 👏👏
Impressive.....so informative....everyone needs to watch this video.ill share it to everyone I know
There's one thing I don't understand with ladies how do you stay for 10 years with an abuser. They hope for a change?
Some are scared. Some men threaten them. Some depend on the man financially. Some have kids with him. Some are hoping he'll change. There are many reasons.
I'm a women and I don't UNDERSTAND that aswll 😭, once someone rapes you, tell your parents /or someone you trust. 💀And don't move in with a man if you're not ready to give up the CAKE💀
@@nokuncedanxumalo6907 I get where you're coming from, but unfortunately people are different. And trauma can sometimes distort rational thinking.
Thanks to The algorithm, i came accross your channel, i am subscribing
Amanda is mistaken in calling macg a rapist yes, however; macg is the main instigator by firstly using her name in his video captions and asking jub jub if he smashed to which jub jub uncomfortably answers 'ja she is one of them'...
that line of questioning has made many of his guest uncomfortable, but he pursues in the interest of locker room banter, a feat he does not need in order to be succesfull, mind you he has an intellectual comedian and ghost lady to up the value of his show.
its easy to read the room and grow up.
it would not have hurt macg to edit the mentions of amanda out and remove her name from his video, but he did so anyways knowing that the millions who watched amandas video would go and watch his video for refference, it is a snakey move on macgs part, especially if we are to consider that jub jub is trauma trigger to amanda. EQ is a high expectation for a trauma case honestly.
If he indeed goes against gbv why upload that interview? its clear that she doesnt want herself mentioned or captioned, why is it hard for macg to respect that?
I think if he did that, they would have kinda made it look like "HE IS PROTECTING THE ACCUSED" by hiding the part that AMANDA is talking about since it had already aired on the DStv channel.
And well, in her vid she mentioned them all sooooooo....... I guess tit for tat!!!!
So does that give her the right to falsy accused him of the unspeakable deed?
@Lindi Lichen, I fully agree with your angle. MacG as the host of this show said, he does it to all the guests,
With relationships questioning. He is very demeaning, disrespectful. However Jub Jub should have responded better, He should have said, we were in a relationship for this period,
These things zabo GBV got people messed up,I mean women are getting away with lots of B.S. in the name of GBV. Kshuthi all of us have been raped (especially if you grew up ekasi)🤷....What took you so long? " I was scared"🤔Oh! Ok, AWSASABI MANJE??
I wish all ladies will think like you. Well said 👏 👌 👍
you are stupid
Well researched well articulated 🙏🏽
You are making lot of sense my brother
I like the way you open minded.
If you had a bigger platform with lots of followers and made good money from it, than my man you would be canceled for saying all this truths.
Hahaha
😂😂😂Very true.
"by definition that's not rape because you didn't say anything" 😲. It really does seem like we have one idea of rape as a country , where clothes are forcefully ripped off. Yet we witness friends, neighbour's in relationships where you seem something is off. You see the girl stay in the relationship, while you can see she is scared of her partner. I don't understand how then rape for two years is unlikely, it can go on for a very long time . How can you have consensual sex with someone you're scared of? I really don't see an abusive partner asking permission from his partner to have sex, you either give it up or he takes it from you, so that there tells should tell us there will be times where you give into sex and won't say anything. We know leaving an abusive relationship is not easy, why then are we now judging the time a person takes to leave a toxic relationship? Only Amanda and Jub Jub know what happened. Rape for two years and longer, that's not unlikey. That's our reality.
Enkosi Zodwa for this response. You said it all without any emotion. This man disappointed me.
Rape for 2 years is highly unlikely
@@zimasajam how is it highly unlikely?
@@zizo_zizo788 2 years is unlikely 2 months is likely
Everyday for 2 years straight they rape you?
Are you hearing yourself?
And also why date Cassper?
Another famous Rapper
Won't it bring back the Trauma
@@2melo194 1.Being raped for two years does not mean your abuser has sex with you everyday, it means the sex is not consensual for two years.
2. I understand myself perfectly, our government needs to do more to educate our poeple on rape and the different ways that woman are viloted sexually.
3. I don't know why Amanda dated CASSPER. What I do know is that life moves on and woman have to move along with it, not necessarily meaning that they have healed. I mean we have women with children, woman in marriages suffering break downs and having to open up about being raped to their partners...
I don't know what happened between Jub Jub and Amanda, being raped for two years in South Africa is our reality.
Us the fans are so wrapped up in picking sides, we're concerned about our favourite celebrity. There's nothing unique or unlikey about these rape allegations.
I honestly understand what you are laying out,fair.
Remember Jub Jub has a criminal offence history and our people are ready to crucify him without evidence. I watched the podcast after seeing Amanda Du Pont's video, I found nothing wrong with what Jub Jub said as I saw he even regrets how things ended between himself and Amanda over Kelly. Bro if you notice the guy showed a level of respect for Amanda but just answered the questions as they came. It was not his intention to maybe cause harm to her reputation. All I am concluding through my observation, Amanda is protecting her current livelihood and her past secrets. Anyone who has secrets about her would meet her wrath. Amanda is ashamed about her dark past and has buried it.
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saying the word smash with my friends whn we are chilling and talking about the problems of the heart is now a bad word this world is going crazy instead of advancement to civilization its going the opposite
Logical argument. I can listen.
Haai mkhaya u r a very smart en yaz uv shed sum light kakhulu on this rape issue.
Braaaaa I been checking your machine and it's full of Fact's 🐵
Bruh... you are so intelligent and very eloquent...
To show my appreciation to you, I just subscribed....thank you mfethu.
Ngiyabonga Nomathemba ❤
Well said thank you 🙏🏽🙏🏽
I’m 100% agree with what you saying bro…I personal see Amanda Du Point”a gold digger” ..as they will settle out of court ..she’ll want to be paid..forgetting that she has ruined Jub Jub’s career & his name…she’s a pure gold digger who seeks fame in a wrongful way!!!
This is such great analysis 😀👍
What i've noticed with this Celebrities in South Africa is that if umjolo ubanyisa they then call it Rape🤔kani kumele unyise labanani lomjolo
I won't agree with what you said about celebs crying rape... but I will say that celebs are normal ppl, like everyone else. That means they have high emotions, make silly decisions & can say the wrong things. The biggest problem is that they have big platforms & can damage other people's lives when they say or do silly & reckless things.
Victimhood is a super weapon for those who aim to tarnish your brand.
Are you a lawyer bro? Great legal analysis.
The law should have a window period of reporting rape cases, say maybe 6 months or less maximum. This thing of reporting a rape case years later is BS in my opinion!
Thank you brother
Ohhh man my guy, err you came tlean👌 with the facts, the fact that she has said that Jub did'nt not r*pe her before on record, and now here she is withdrawing her statement also on record is very much preposterous, this is a clear give away of how the female imperative is ruled by emotions, yes females can think logically but their nature prioritise their emotions first ,and sadly they have little influence towards that, you said something about EQ which is very important, something they logically understand, something their emotions knows nothing about, its that plus the fact that the laws are female friendly(Guilty until proven innocent). Men are in trouble🙆🏽♂️
From the magazine articles I read they moved into her flat and he took over the apartment when she ran away.
Thank you for sharing.
I am definately subscribing to this channel👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Thank you very much.
Well said bro! Thanks for posting.
You bring up these points to a normal person with any common sense in a conversation and that person will agree that those are very important and valid points. Even though they may have some equally important and valid opposing points. The one thing you can be sure about is that they will both agree that this is very complex and there's a lot of grey. Unfortunately that has never been the case with me when I've made these exact points on the topic and listening to the opposing points, really giving them some thought, asking questions to make sure that I understand them well enough and most importantly doing all of that in a genuine and conversational manner, making a real effort to get to some sort of mutual agreement and understanding and avoid getting personal where there's no need or no understandable reason for. All I got in response 99% of the time was "you're part of the problem"..."you're an example of how disgusting men are"..."you sound rapey/you're probably a rapist/someone close to you is a rapist and that's who you're defending" and the most popular one is "you're a rape apologist", which I've been called like dozens of times over this whole Jub Jub case. And I'm certain I'm not the only one, I've even seen girls who were accused of being apologists for making these points.
I had already come to expect that though because I know that these people view anyone who does not agree with them as an enemy. And goal isn't proving or disproving a point, it isn't coming to an understanding or agreement or agreeing to disagree or winning a debate, their main and only objective is to destroy the enemy by any and all means possible including deliberate and targeted lies, hiding and turning a blind eye to crucial facts, ignoring their own contradictions and fallacies, making baseless accusations. These people people always hit us with ''You're a part of the problem" but in truth they are the ones who are a huge and crucial part of the problem because the people who make false accusations fully rely on them. They are the ones who make it harder for real victims to say something.
More of us with common sense and logic minds need to get much louder.
Well explained, just met you now, subscribed!
Love and blessings.
Well said
I have to subscribe, coz wow top tier 👌 content.
Love and Blessings.
Not taken up by channel O
God Penuel... Have respect for only two people on this planet at this point in time. Yourself quite obviously for your balanced and objective take on matters at hand!!! Amanda Dupont for not kissing back "hungrily" for two whole years. The both of you are my two favourite people for now....
It's NOT taken up by Channel O, Podcast and Chill that is
My apologies. I meant it also flights on Channel O.
great job my guy I hate lairs
I did Believe Amanda du pont until she accuses MacG of rape without evidence.
Then she said Smash is a degrading word. When Female UA-camrs like Mihlali have been using that word too. It's SPOILT BRAT BEHAVIOR THIS
Suing everyone
There is more to this story than meets the eye.
Man thanks a lot you are speaking only facts ..
Why am I seeing this actor of skeem sam in this girl.... 🤔🤔🤔..... Is she acting kwi skeem sam or that's her in real life as well???..... Wenzini uMacG🤔🤔🤔🤔
Well said a very clear analysis
Very accurate my brother!👏
Nice content my gee
Does the term "GBV" make sense?
Well said 👏
I don't understand this Amanda I think she just wants publicity was she not in a relationship with this man ?
So mothers dont ever ever let any girl enter your house without being married officially
Thank you
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siyabonga kakhulu ngolwazi osinikelona.
Arhh boi... Well said 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Well said mi brother big up to u