@lebogangkekana7530 she offered him sex in exchange for his services, even sent him songs and told him she'd forget about the incounter if Nota got the songs playlisted, she wanted industry mavuso
Earlier in the convo she said she doesn't want to have sex with him. After a few visits she said she's pulling back because Nota doesn't respect her boundaries. This is important context. Is she extorting him? Certainly! Is that proof he didn't rape her, no it isn't.
I love that you took thus as an opportunity educate both male and female about rape and it technicalities cause it's really that complex I also learned myself thank you
45:00 Rest in Peace Bafana Sithole...a teenage boy who killed himself after he was falsely accused of rape by a school mate. The "accuser" then said she was just joking💔....where is the accountability for females?
In all the examples you have mentioned, were all the accused gents went off the map, it fucked up their bag. Maybe its time a falsely accused gent tries a different approach to protect himself.
Nota needs to understand that his right to freedom of speech is limited. The State (prosecutor) can and might add additional criminal charges! Both crimen injuria and criminal defamation can apply here (on the face of it). The complainant is staying in her lane and so should he!
She is no victim, she's an extortionist... No rape victim is "raped" and still makes demands of compensation through music promos or demands an exclusive relationship with her alleged "rapist" Nota is a victim here, but i am truly disappointed in him he allowed himself to be over powered by lust.
@@mayalippert2046i mean it is the case for both genders. Men will succumb to the act of lust which is sexual intercourse Women will lust after the benefits that come with giving their bodies sexually to men in a transactional manner.. Like in context to this matter the sex was consensually transactional from both parties... Except the woman saw it as a loophole to extort.
@mayalippert2046 true, siyasithanda isibumbu singabantu besilisa. 95% of men, myself included always find ourselves in such situations. It just happens that we haven't been in positions where we find women who see a window of opportunity to use that against us.
this might be one of the only platforms I would be willing to speak out on if I could, because you are balanced in your review of what rape actually Is, however I am being silenced by the terms of a protection order. I cannot dispute nor deny how much of this is relevant to my case because I don't know how it can impact the outcome of my case. Thank you for this take, I believe it will be sobering for many people and, regardless of the outcome of my case, this is an important contribution to the conversation surrounding rape. ..I wanted to add that all I ever wanted is a fair unbiased trial, with a judge that would look at the merits of my claim rather than the mood of social media and I'm praying to God that is what I get, I might have to go it alone because I cannot afford Good legal representation. But I have Faith and I know my truth
Rape is increasingly being defined by a woman’s perception rather than being strictly bound by legal statutes. A case in point involves a virgin girl, presided over by Acting Judge Thembeka Ngcukathombi. In the South African context, anyone who has had intercourse with a virgin is at risk-she might later claim that she was sexually violated. It amazes me how quickly men forget everything when temptation is in front of them. They engage in the act without ensuring they have collected evidence of mutual consent. In the future, it seems that sexual intercourse might require the presence of legal officials, written oaths, and witnesses of sound mind to ensure clarity of consent. Perhaps even a live inspector will need to be present to confirm that what is taking place is indeed consensual sexual intercourse. It raises the question: in today’s world, who truly knows what consensual sex is anymore?
You are saying what I once said that all sex is rape because if you had sex with a woman and she said you raped her even though she initially consented, then they gonna say you raped her. Rape is basically what what the girl says, she if she feels you raped her then you raped her.
This is so sad. Someone's life can change overnight due to false accusations. My heart goes out to any boy or man who this has happened to! I'm putting myself in their shoes. If something like this were to happen to my child, I'd be devestated! Ladies, pull yourselves together! If you've ever done this, shame on you! I wish the worst of illnesses on you!
So with perception should trust.Should only trust the man perspective.If a Woman smiles or does anythings sexual does it mean i can rape her.Should we start trusting only Man.Are man the logical ones only.We had centuries of trusting only Male version the story,and this way didnt work.
I think you are right.We should have presence of legal officials, written oaths, and witnesses of sound mind to ensure clarity of consent.Yes in that case we can remove all unsure rape accident.Maybe Man would be more careful if there start engaging sexual intercurse and we can remove the 60% rape cases on underage girls.And i would to talk about Sexual coercen on Woman and gils.No Man should be having s.. with an uncounsen Woman or girls .That is called RAPE
When you look at the chats you can see that Nota initially sexually violated this lady (who clearly set some boundaries) - However, she saw that as a tool to manipulate Nota to get what she wants and when the plan didn't work she then went to open a case! Her giving him an ultimatum was the worst thing she could've done for herself. This matter isn't black and white, very tricky "according to their chats" 😢 I feel sorry for her, seems like she is desperate to do whatever it takes to get her career rolling! Well, that's if the texts are legit!
Surely his lawyer could have spoken on his behalf and deal with anyone who threatened to cancel him? He can't just say as he pleases. This is the real world, not Nota's world.
Yeah I agree Nota doesnt understand the gravity of these allegations. However how does one defend themselves against these allegations, because there's no coming back from this. His reputation is tarnished for life. I just think he is the type of guy who would want to get ahead of all this and start managing his reputation, however the courts dont care about your reputation. This shit is crazy, like you said its complex and complicated.
What are you talking about.The Womans reputation is tarnished.Finding a another Man is going to be difficult,on top that she is going to be Victim Blame and beeing laught at,blamed and shamed by other Woman and Man.She is going to seen as a Prostitues.She is the one loosing.Man in this system get away with everything
Nota is going to jail for sure, he was already wanted by the state.Whether the allegations are true or false , he is shooting himself by being arrogant and going to podcasts as well as sharing private and confidential information about this lady without her consent
Awesome delivery Penuel. .... Ey Nkosiyami, rape is something else, and so many people never get justice. I'M REMINDED ABOUT MEN WHO ALSO GET RAPED BY WOMEN, AND BCOS THEY MEN, THEY USUALLY REMAIN SILENT
Penuel, you must stay away from Nota. He is an attention seeker, thirsty for the limelight and will do anything for fame. We are dealing with a narcissist who thinks he is the kingmaker, an untouchable Teflon John. The dude was in the USA avoiding a pending trial, and the first thing he does after coming back is involving himself with women of questionable character. I thought he said "Sex is not for pleasure" on your podcast but he is doing the opposite in the background. This guy is spoiled, let him learn life. He sees himself as P. Diddy.
Hey hey the man's problem is that they don't talk. When you talk it must be harsh harsh. Someone's life is on the line here from both sides trying to keep quite doesn't help.
wow Pen is so smart😢😢😢😢I wish you could host seminars about these issues I learnt alot from watching you & I must make it my task to watch you religiously….Please approach the government for funding for educating young people especially in school about such, it will help alot of people & such situations may be avoided
There are no caring guys in the internet world. If Pen talks to Nota why is he saying these things here and not tell them to Nota? Xelela uNota not the world, show sensitivity cause you talk to the guy
Social media really is a double edged sword. It can raise awareness or land you in hot waters. Ska Speeta Mfana! Chilla and avoid being reckless with clapping cheeks!
One thing I commend you on Penuel is the fact that I remember you saying that you don't want your podcast to be a "gossip platform" and I was very happy when you did not interview Lebo Kheswa purely because of how her story blew off and what it has become.. entertainment. Anyway I agree 100 percent with you that Nota must tread lightly, that he needs to treat this situation with more sensitivity. As you are talking I am thinking about how what this world has become and it is very sad for rape victims and the falsely accused persons, it is sad that we live in a world where we need to always watch our backs because people are always trying to get something, that life has become more of a transaction that having healthy relations. We also live in a world where there are really genuine people with genuine intentions and sometimes unfortunately they end up in wrong situations. My heart goes more to those coming after us and I will never blame anyone for being raped, can we at least not put ourselves in situations that could lead to violation. Example, we live in a world where if a boy or girl says come to my place and let's hang, it is obvious that sex is an expectation. I am not condoning animal behavior but if protecting ourselves means staying away then let that be. I can only hope that what I am saying is not coming out as insensitive or "easy to talk because you're not in that situation". I heavily empathize, no one needs or deserves to be violated and those that have done wrong should get their own. If it means indoctrinating the young ones like we were that they must wait before marriage or atleast until they are 21 years old with their brains having developed something then they can atleast make that decision that they want to have sex or not then let's do that. Teaching young girls and boys basic respect and that no means no, dress modestly but very nice for these young girls. Teach young boys to protect girls instead of seeing them like objects and young girls the same I mean something you know. But ya... Thank you again for informative content. I'm always here, even in my silence. 🧡
Rape is a very complicated thing and at this point its like if a girl says you raped her then you raped her. I understand when someone is being forced by a stranger. But your girlfriend or wife or friend saying you raped her and you think it was consensual then that's something else.
All I can say Pen if there's anyone who needs to take this lesson, is yourself my brother, and believe, you have angered a lot of women with the way you handling your kids issues and all, women can be vile, one will come with intentions of taking one for the team and take you down. Be careful, my brother.
Man privlied is caming to an end and Man are been held to task.No one is allowed to Violante someone else Temple Period.I am happy Patriachy is breaking down.NO is NO
I just switch off when there's sexual accusations. The only people that know the truth are the people involved, the rest of yawl opinions really dont hold any surface. #Out
I feel sorry for her.She may need Therapy and healing for the rest of her life.He actually damages another human being.S.. Trauma can be inherit to the next generation,so i hope she is going to have help.
@@Thatsong-fr9nq No Woman cries for rape if it didnt happens.And yes rapes Victim need help.And if she is lying want i dont think ,she still needs help.Stop protecting rapiest .Man like you are part of the problem.IF this was your daughters would react the same way.He demages her.And Karma is caming
@@Thatsong-fr9nq Man like you protect,support and cover for male rapiesnt.If was your daughter you would react different,but because this is someones else daughters you dont care.Man like you are sick
@@Thatsong-fr9nq @Thatsong-fr9nq Man like you protect,support,defend and cover for male rapists.If that was your daughter you would react different,but because this is someones else daughters you dont care.Man like you are sick
@@nyashamahleko7007 You are being emotional my dear but I look at facts. You saying she can never lie about Rap,but if she is lying then she needs help? You are confirming that some people do lie. What if they lie against your Son/husband or Brother? There is a reason why we have qualified judges who dont use emotions.
Thee most clear, fact based and unbiased analysis and commentary of this situation that I have heard all week! Props
As a cop, I really appreciate how deep you got into explaining the anatomy of how the system blatantly functions.
If Toll ass mo spoke earlir his career would have ben saved h spoke too late Nota is doing well
Nota should have stayed in the U.S
For ?
Indeed
But his home is here in South Africa.
If we being honest according to the chats we can see Itu tried to use the incounter as leverage to extort Nota
exactly. she wanted a career or serious relationship. how can we still take her story as credible. she didnt sound like shes mentally stable
@@lebogangkekana7530 No one is Mentally stable after a rape.She may need help and support for the rest for her life.
@lebogangkekana7530 she offered him sex in exchange for his services, even sent him songs and told him she'd forget about the incounter if Nota got the songs playlisted, she wanted industry mavuso
Earlier in the convo she said she doesn't want to have sex with him. After a few visits she said she's pulling back because Nota doesn't respect her boundaries.
This is important context. Is she extorting him? Certainly! Is that proof he didn't rape her, no it isn't.
I love that you took thus as an opportunity educate both male and female about rape and it technicalities cause it's really that complex I also learned myself thank you
45:00
Rest in Peace Bafana Sithole...a teenage boy who killed himself after he was falsely accused of rape by a school mate. The "accuser" then said she was just joking💔....where is the accountability for females?
Exactly 😢
Did she somehow get arrested? Because she has to be arrested. She's evil ngwanyanola
In all the examples you have mentioned, were all the accused gents went off the map, it fucked up their bag. Maybe its time a falsely accused gent tries a different approach to protect himself.
Like what route?
Nota needs to understand that his right to freedom of speech is limited. The State (prosecutor) can and might add additional criminal charges! Both crimen injuria and criminal defamation can apply here (on the face of it). The complainant is staying in her lane and so should he!
Very true 7:35 Nota isn’t behaving like the executive he says he is.
How does an executive behave?
@@lopezdube9043 he calls his lawyers and tell them his story and and
She is no victim, she's an extortionist... No rape victim is "raped" and still makes demands of compensation through music promos or demands an exclusive relationship with her alleged "rapist"
Nota is a victim here, but i am truly disappointed in him he allowed himself to be over powered by lust.
@@Akha141 Yes it is called Stockholm syndrome. Sometimes rape,domestic victims do fall in love in there abusers.
I'm wondering if this (lust) isn't the case for the majority of men? Not saying it is so... Just wondering 🤔
@@mayalippert2046i mean it is the case for both genders.
Men will succumb to the act of lust which is sexual intercourse
Women will lust after the benefits that come with giving their bodies sexually to men in a transactional manner.. Like in context to this matter the sex was consensually transactional from both parties... Except the woman saw it as a loophole to extort.
Power by lust is always men's down fall through history and in the bible
@mayalippert2046 true, siyasithanda isibumbu singabantu besilisa. 95% of men, myself included always find ourselves in such situations. It just happens that we haven't been in positions where we find women who see a window of opportunity to use that against us.
this might be one of the only platforms I would be willing to speak out on if I could, because you are balanced in your review of what rape actually Is, however I am being silenced by the terms of a protection order. I cannot dispute nor deny how much of this is relevant to my case because I don't know how it can impact the outcome of my case. Thank you for this take, I believe it will be sobering for many people and, regardless of the outcome of my case, this is an important contribution to the conversation surrounding rape. ..I wanted to add that all I ever wanted is a fair unbiased trial, with a judge that would look at the merits of my claim rather than the mood of social media and I'm praying to God that is what I get, I might have to go it alone because I cannot afford Good legal representation. But I have Faith and I know my truth
Rape is increasingly being defined by a woman’s perception rather than being strictly bound by legal statutes. A case in point involves a virgin girl, presided over by Acting Judge Thembeka Ngcukathombi. In the South African context, anyone who has had intercourse with a virgin is at risk-she might later claim that she was sexually violated. It amazes me how quickly men forget everything when temptation is in front of them. They engage in the act without ensuring they have collected evidence of mutual consent.
In the future, it seems that sexual intercourse might require the presence of legal officials, written oaths, and witnesses of sound mind to ensure clarity of consent. Perhaps even a live inspector will need to be present to confirm that what is taking place is indeed consensual sexual intercourse. It raises the question: in today’s world, who truly knows what consensual sex is anymore?
You are saying what I once said that all sex is rape because if you had sex with a woman and she said you raped her even though she initially consented, then they gonna say you raped her. Rape is basically what what the girl says, she if she feels you raped her then you raped her.
This is so sad. Someone's life can change overnight due to false accusations. My heart goes out to any boy or man who this has happened to! I'm putting myself in their shoes. If something like this were to happen to my child, I'd be devestated! Ladies, pull yourselves together! If you've ever done this, shame on you! I wish the worst of illnesses on you!
So with perception should trust.Should only trust the man perspective.If a Woman smiles or does anythings sexual does it mean i can rape her.Should we start trusting only Man.Are man the logical ones only.We had centuries of trusting only Male version the story,and this way didnt work.
I think you are right.We should have presence of legal officials, written oaths, and witnesses of sound mind to ensure clarity of consent.Yes in that case we can remove all unsure rape accident.Maybe Man would be more careful if there start engaging sexual intercurse and we can remove the 60% rape cases on underage girls.And i would to talk about Sexual coercen on Woman and gils.No Man should be having s.. with an uncounsen Woman or girls .That is called RAPE
When you look at the chats you can see that Nota initially sexually violated this lady (who clearly set some boundaries) - However, she saw that as a tool to manipulate Nota to get what she wants and when the plan didn't work she then went to open a case! Her giving him an ultimatum was the worst thing she could've done for herself. This matter isn't black and white, very tricky "according to their chats" 😢 I feel sorry for her, seems like she is desperate to do whatever it takes to get her career rolling! Well, that's if the texts are legit!
Can you please clarify,which part of the chats shows that he violated her? Which part?
There is absolutely no text or sign of Nota violating her in the chats
Pen I hear you, but I 100% agree with Nota, imagine what this would have done to his image had he not spoken up
Surely his lawyer could have spoken on his behalf and deal with anyone who threatened to cancel him? He can't just say as he pleases. This is the real world, not Nota's world.
Yeah I agree Nota doesnt understand the gravity of these allegations. However how does one defend themselves against these allegations, because there's no coming back from this. His reputation is tarnished for life. I just think he is the type of guy who would want to get ahead of all this and start managing his reputation, however the courts dont care about your reputation. This shit is crazy, like you said its complex and complicated.
What are you talking about.The Womans reputation is tarnished.Finding a another Man is going to be difficult,on top that she is going to be Victim Blame and beeing laught at,blamed and shamed by other Woman and Man.She is going to seen as a Prostitues.She is the one loosing.Man in this system get away with everything
These are the types of OPEN conversations parents SHOULD have with their kids.
Unfortunately she can’t sue for sex work coz it’s illegal and for any contract to be enforceable it should be legal
Nota is going to jail for sure, he was already wanted by the state.Whether the allegations are true or false , he is shooting himself by being arrogant and going to podcasts as well as sharing private and confidential information about this lady without her consent
Shes the one that went to the papers first to expose her case Nota is just using media to retaliate as well this matter is not private at all
Awesome delivery Penuel.
.... Ey Nkosiyami, rape is something else, and so many people never get justice.
I'M REMINDED ABOUT MEN WHO ALSO GET RAPED BY WOMEN, AND BCOS THEY MEN, THEY USUALLY REMAIN SILENT
This was so educational Penuel, big ups 🙏🏽
Freakin hell. I'm watching this again later on, after the kids are in bed. I'm super impressed with your delivery!
Penuel, you must stay away from Nota. He is an attention seeker, thirsty for the limelight and will do anything for fame. We are dealing with a narcissist who thinks he is the kingmaker, an untouchable Teflon John. The dude was in the USA avoiding a pending trial, and the first thing he does after coming back is involving himself with women of questionable character. I thought he said "Sex is not for pleasure" on your podcast but he is doing the opposite in the background. This guy is spoiled, let him learn life. He sees himself as P. Diddy.
Pending trial? 😮
🙏 God bless you for this piece about consent every young boy should hear this because it’s such a thin line 🤞
Hey hey the man's problem is that they don't talk. When you talk it must be harsh harsh. Someone's life is on the line here from both sides trying to keep quite doesn't help.
Only the Woman life is on the line.Man get away with everythings.So what are talking about.Woman loo their value,name,dignity and everythings.
@@nyashamahleko7007people must not lie to punish others
What are you saying?
An unbiased and educational breakdown! Thank you
wow Pen is so smart😢😢😢😢I wish you could host seminars about these issues I learnt alot from watching you & I must make it my task to watch you religiously….Please approach the government for funding for educating young people especially in school about such, it will help alot of people & such situations may be avoided
This is lovely, it hits home when they say;"what if it could be your brother".
At this time we support Nota, be strong Authority
Good advice.
Very sensitive issue...22:50 it gets very tricky
Preach god Penuel. 💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
There are no caring guys in the internet world. If Pen talks to Nota why is he saying these things here and not tell them to Nota?
Xelela uNota not the world, show sensitivity cause you talk to the guy
Love your balanced opinions❤
With friends like you who needs enemies? You definitely one of NOTA 's haters ....you just say things without thinking.
Agreed. Nota is handling the situation correctly so far
😂😂😂😂
thanks man for schooling us
Agree. Best to steer clear of *porn*. Things can go downhill fast.
The SCA upheld the appeal of the Eastern Cape case.
I wish most ppl can listen and choose wisely before any act
It is indeed complex q
Social media really is a double edged sword. It can raise awareness or land you in hot waters. Ska Speeta Mfana! Chilla and avoid being reckless with clapping cheeks!
@@Professor_Stark We are being emasculated. They will cry for real men and wont find us
Nota might have rubbed some ppl the wrong way.
Literally?
@@lamoola9279😅😅😅😅
This was SO SO GOOOOOOOOOD man!
7:59 I think he need to share the conversations. The public actually does prosecute.
One thing I commend you on Penuel is the fact that I remember you saying that you don't want your podcast to be a "gossip platform" and I was very happy when you did not interview Lebo Kheswa purely because of how her story blew off and what it has become.. entertainment.
Anyway I agree 100 percent with you that Nota must tread lightly, that he needs to treat this situation with more sensitivity.
As you are talking I am thinking about how what this world has become and it is very sad for rape victims and the falsely accused persons, it is sad that we live in a world where we need to always watch our backs because people are always trying to get something, that life has become more of a transaction that having healthy relations. We also live in a world where there are really genuine people with genuine intentions and sometimes unfortunately they end up in wrong situations.
My heart goes more to those coming after us and I will never blame anyone for being raped, can we at least not put ourselves in situations that could lead to violation.
Example, we live in a world where if a boy or girl says come to my place and let's hang, it is obvious that sex is an expectation.
I am not condoning animal behavior but if protecting ourselves means staying away then let that be. I can only hope that what I am saying is not coming out as insensitive or "easy to talk because you're not in that situation". I heavily empathize, no one needs or deserves to be violated and those that have done wrong should get their own.
If it means indoctrinating the young ones like we were that they must wait before marriage or atleast until they are 21 years old with their brains having developed something then they can atleast make that decision that they want to have sex or not then let's do that. Teaching young girls and boys basic respect and that no means no, dress modestly but very nice for these young girls. Teach young boys to protect girls instead of seeing them like objects and young girls the same I mean something you know.
But ya...
Thank you again for informative content. I'm always here, even in my silence. 🧡
Rape is a very complicated thing and at this point its like if a girl says you raped her then you raped her. I understand when someone is being forced by a stranger. But your girlfriend or wife or friend saying you raped her and you think it was consensual then that's something else.
Penuel, not the bj example! 😂
I'm laughing coz it's true 😂😂😂
Like u once said Nota like to be South Africa's Andrew Tate I believe that is why he went to a podcast like the Tates does
I agree with you 100% for the first time,even if he did 2 strokes and was told to stop,if he continues the 3rd stroke is a rape.
All I can say Pen if there's anyone who needs to take this lesson, is yourself my brother, and believe, you have angered a lot of women with the way you handling your kids issues and all, women can be vile, one will come with intentions of taking one for the team and take you down. Be careful, my brother.
Nota knows the ins and outs of the industry. I doubt if he's that careless about how he handles himself through this ordeal.
CALL NOTA ON THE PODCAST MY GUY
Hell hath no fury.... and please people Don't put words into my mouth
This got me very emotional😢💔
Nota cant be our hsre smashing no more
Should have called him
Emtee is one of the haters 😂
Man privlied is caming to an end and Man are been held to task.No one is allowed to Violante someone else Temple Period.I am happy Patriachy is breaking down.NO is NO
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂
Aii kubi😅🤞🏾
🤔🤔🤔🧐🧐🧐🇸🇿🇿🇦
Kurojwene lana
nota gonna fight for ever he got lawyers for days
He got x/twitt bundles and podcasts appearance for days.
Ai, hektikk🙆🏽♂️
Uyindoda kwedini
I'm surprised that Nota only has text messages as evidence, as intelligent as he is.
What else my guy?
@Thatsong-fr9nq video footage, audio recording and witnesses. The encounter happened at Nota's home if I remember
@@zimasajamlol how would he get such? Do you do that with people you sleep with?
@@Siyambonga_Mbasaneas for video footage like how 😂😂
I just switch off when there's sexual accusations. The only people that know the truth are the people involved, the rest of yawl opinions really dont hold any surface. #Out
4:17 Netflix
I feel sorry for her.She may need Therapy and healing for the rest of her life.He actually damages another human being.S.. Trauma can be inherit to the next generation,so i hope she is going to have help.
No you must to get all the help you need because you have not healed. Dont project. How do you know he damaged her? Were you in that room??
@@Thatsong-fr9nq No Woman cries for rape if it didnt happens.And yes rapes Victim need help.And if she is lying want i dont think ,she still needs help.Stop protecting rapiest .Man like you are part of the problem.IF this was your daughters would react the same way.He demages her.And Karma is caming
@@Thatsong-fr9nq Man like you protect,support and cover for male rapiesnt.If was your daughter you would react different,but because this is someones else daughters you dont care.Man like you are sick
@@Thatsong-fr9nq @Thatsong-fr9nq Man like you protect,support,defend and cover for male rapists.If that was your daughter you would react different,but because this is someones else daughters you dont care.Man like you are sick
@@nyashamahleko7007 You are being emotional my dear but I look at facts. You saying she can never lie about Rap,but if she is lying then she needs help? You are confirming that some people do lie. What if they lie against your Son/husband or Brother?
There is a reason why we have qualified judges who dont use emotions.
13:23 🤝🏾
26:01🤝🏾
27:39😂🤝🏾
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I'll say it again, My Goat is alota things lol but not a rap*st. We standin on bidness🥷
@macg and @dudumethula, lets have PENUEL for this topic.