2024 Mercedes E 350: A return to beauty with the help of A.I.?
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2024
- Mercedes Benz completely changes its second most important car, the @MercedesBenz E Class, and in the process brings about some unexpected changes. MotoMan drives the all-new @mbusa E 350 4MATIC to demonstrate the impact of a highly revised mild hybrid system and machine learning (AI) have on a 70+ year old history . . .
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Brand new Mercedes-Benz E-class,4 cylinders,for "only" $ 83,500.00 without the tax.
Thank you every much "benz",I just loooove older REAL BENZ and Porches more and more.
Santa Maria madre de dios,where are we heading?
Dear Motoman,thank you and never change yourself to electroman.🙏
Sounds like you don’t like capitalism.
20 years ago the E class with a 3.2L V6 produced only 221hp and 232 torque
@@jaymum23 electric vehicle is communism that govs promote as sAVinG thE plANeT
Imo the standard dashboard with only one screen and large panel of wood looks so much better than this optional superscreen, especially if you opt it with the brown wood with pinstripes
I’m sick of the 4 poppers and the screens, I want buttons & engines w real sound that are music to my ears.
Love your enthusiasm for the styling (and is better than EQE) but the last remotely MB-esque E-Class was W213 (pre-facelift) and the last elegant E was W211.
Cannot imagine the glare factor that massive dash yields. Likewise the fingerprint smudging & the amount of dust particles that will never be at bay with that big, dark, glossy setup.
That’s why I ordered an E450 without the super screen (who wants to watch movies in a car?); instead, I ordered the open maple/aluminum strip dash and matching center console. More expensive than the sheet of glass, but much nicer, I think.
I like the exterior quite a bit, but that interior? Woof. That’s a deal killer for me. I want real buttons for things like HVAC, seat heaters, etc.
While I wouldn’t buy a Mercedes (Porsche and BMW guy) this looks like a good car.
I like the exterior and interior of this Mercedes surely this will be my next E Class definitely E 350
So my first luxury vehicle was a Lexus GS 300 in 2001 and it was a brand new one at that. Yet my first entry to the German luxury vehicle class has been a 2011 Mercedes-Benz E350 4matic. At which point I learned that there is a stark difference between Japanese and German vehicles. I obviously graduated to a BMW in 2016 535i, and then my glorious 2021 M550i. I am currently in a 2024 X5 50e PHEV. If Mercedes continues this glorious trend in design, I might have to return to Stuttgart! Beautiful vehicle!
I would like a chance at the E53 wagon here in the states though…
so what are the differences between lexus (Japanese) and mercedes (german)... and compare them today with the newer models ....
Another great review 🙏
Looks much better than the new 5 series imo, however there are some interior design gimmicks that cause disparity with the hardware such as the super screen. The instrument cluster has a beautiful design but the bezels needed more work, those two screens were supposed to be one unit that follows the silhouette of the super screen, no need for OLED screens yet, but at least they could have implemented an anti-glare display that maybe could improve contrast, that would have been really cool
Untrue - the E-class was never envisioned to have the hyper screen like the EQE. I personally ordered an E450 without it, but with the open pore maple/aluminum strip dash and console.
My 1995 E300 was one of the best built cars I’ve ever had, the hood ornament was classy and needs to come back to this model asap!
You must order "elegance" package and you'll get your star.
LOVE THE NEW E CLASS ❤
6:15 you can get a version with grille simillar to the current s-class and the hood ornament, at lest in europe not sure if this is aviable in the US
Thank you for the EU mandate for vehicles to have BUTTON’s! For basic essential controls!
That's exciting
I love you, man.
What sunglasses are those? - lovin' the IWC pilot - Very nice
Randolph Engineering 'Aviator'. US Air Force standard issue.
@motoman, will you be reviewing the Ineos Grenadier?
Having lived in Germany, I can't unsee the E-Class as a taxi.
Always love your high quality reviews!!
I drive a A250 4MATIC for several years now. Great car, pretty good quality. What I would rather see instead of more AI/ML is a more sophisticated adaptive cruise control. It seems like they still program this in a sort-of "hard constraint problem", where as soon as a car appears in front the brakes are utilized. Instead, Mercedes would be so much better to use a "soft constraint problem", where you have some slack in distance control with the car in front. Instead of using the brakes, just let go of the gas if possible. Also, be smarter in traffic jams by keeping track of the speed variability and compute a speed at which you can pretty much coast at a constant speed. I always seem to turn off the adaptive cruise control in these situations to give myself and passengers a smoother experience. However, where AI could really be beneficial is at the automatic high beam. I frequently have many False Negatives (the system doesn't spot an oncoming car and therefore doesn't turn off the high beam). From what I can tell this headlight detection seems to be a "solved problem" in AI. I wonder: does Mercedes have different chipsets (cheaper in cheaper models, more expensive in E/S class) for this headlight detection leading to different performance and hence experience? Questions, questions everywhere!
Would love to have an in-depth video about these topics, perhaps with Mercedes engineer interview, to see how they approach this.
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This car is absolutely beautiful and perfect! Thank you for the awesome review!
Easily one of the mercedes videos out there!
Algo be damned !!(Shakes fist at sky)
I hope we get the luxury grille in the USA
I saw it in real life those 21 inch rims makes it looks small i would go 20inch black ones
Torque fill👍🏼A V6 mask🥲 18:26
Great review as always. Why doesn’t Mercedes include port fuel injection along with its direct injection to help prevent the dreaded carbon build up on the back of the intake valves? Other manufacturers have successfully done this and it sure has saved owners a fortune in unplanned and unexpected repairs once the engine gets a decent amount of miles on it. Is it because they know that most of the customers lease their Mercedes vehicles and the carbon related repairs would likely occur after the lease term and factory warranty expires? Although, I’m not sure if a manufacturer warranty would actually cover repair costs for excessive carbon build up in the engine….
I like the look of almost all of it, at least there are somepeople interested in making good looking cars in Germany. I’d say just change the rear lights to look a bit more older Aston Martin and you have me sold, or switch them upside down and without that silver accent cutting across the boot.
You mention the base price rising, however I will point out that E Class of five years ago that started $8,000 cheaper was also missing a TON of equipment that this car has standard. This E Class, maybe aside from ventillated seats, a heated steering wheel, and the drivers assist tech, comes standard with everything you need. You can go crazy like this test car has done, and a lot of the options are wonderful, but they're not striclty necessary in my opinion like they used to be. I'm talking about a base 2018 E300 missing blind spot, auto high beams, passive entry, and even heated front seats! 2017s didn't have a backup camera standard and 2016s didn't have navigation or LED headlights. We've come a long way.
Lol, if mercedes jacks up the price by 8k and now includes 1k more worth of niceties, things that Hyundai includes as standard, who had won?
@@bassandtrebleclef Last time I checked, the Elantra does not have blind spot, keyless entry, or heatd seats standard. And I'm not saying it was okay for the Benz to not have those things 7 years ago, I'm just saying the price increase isn't ONLY due to inflation, there's a little more to it.
In some countries the E class is going to get the star on the hood like the S Class right?
Great show as always but $83,000 for a 6.3 second 4 cylinder, not!
I owned the BMW Active Hybrid 3 (inline 6) in 2013 with this engine /transmission design. It was super fast, efficient, and refined. Mercedes is finally getting it. Mercedes is getting too blingy and there are guard plastic in places that should not be there.
8:50 song name?
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@@MotoManTV thanks!
One of my favorite vehicles right now. But the E450
$80K for a 4 cylinder sedan is INSANE!
I’m not a fan of the black border around the grill. I checked the E Class at the auto show. Back seat is tough to get into and out of. Maybe it’s the same as the previous generation but I don’t remember that from before. I want to be able to take adults on day trips. Luxury in the front, not so much in the rear.
Put a blue oval on that grill
Gas + electric/battery + transmission + AWD = maintenance nightmare. Additionally, two to three interior screens and interior lighting that looks like a Bangkok nightclub. The exterior (is) very attractive.
MB dealers start sweating and complaining whenever a simple vehicle lands on their lot and they imagine potential buyers not enjoying enough of the bespoke $180/hr service department ownership experience that only a MB dealership and some proctologists can provide.
@@EUC-lid Free danish & espresso while they drain your wallet?! 👍
@@xg.... There are fewer moving parts in a strong hybrid (cars & compact SUVs from Toyota, Ford, Honda, etc) than in a typical ICE car. The “CVT” is a single gear planetary gear-set that’s always connected to the ICE, motors, and drive wheels. They can do a lot of regen and can drive some distance in EV alone.
This mild-hybrid monstrosity from MB is a normal RWD-based ICE car with extra crap stuffed in to make stop-start smoother. Don’t be fooled.
It looks cool inside
Lmao 😂
Do they have hands free driving like the BMW yet?
Covered in the #OptionsGame.
$83K for the 4 banger…..? I am officially leaving the chat.
There’s actually a car attached to that engine.🤦♂️
I prefer the older Mercedes-Benz models to be honest.
21” wheels? Only in Southern California, for sure. 😂
i feel like their exterior design hasnt changed in a decade and a half
The new E is beautiful, much better than the last car which became even more bland and anonymous after the facelift. Now if they would go back to W124 build quality, they'd own the segment.
This one is closer to that build quality than the last.
@@jaymum23most reviews so far seem to indicate that. Really good to hear.
They'd be out of business 😂
@@LarryNgetichNah they wouldn’t.
A family member bought the corresponding MB diesel in 1987 for his 50th birthday. AI tells me it cost about US $32k, which buys $90k today, so MB is actually on track with pricing. But $32k in Bogle's S&P index fund then is worth $200k today, or $300k if you chose Berkshire. That's the real cost of such a car. Actually much more if you traded for a new one every three years.
I inherited a ‘89 300E M103 sedan now with a faultless 350km’s on the clock. 5k oil changes. For me I don’t need the newness or the glitz or the down time. Thats where real value is.
@@jamesrebbechi5247 Awesome! 👏
This car is for people who have those investments in spades
LOVE the comparison:)
Ill hand over more data, if they give me a v8 e class and actual dials to interface with the car.
The new E class has too much EQ in it for me. I love the looks of the C-class much better. The E-class is still a nice car for what it is but I'd rather go with the new 5-series.
Sedans are inherently more attractive than SUVs. Time will tell if this is a trend for MB or the exception. The conversion of the vast majority of luxury vehicles to four cylinders is disappointing. Why somebody hasn't had the forethought to make a nice modern inline two-liter six and use that as a nucleus of a luxury brand I don't understand. With the addition of turbocharging and 48V booster motor it would have plenty of power for most luxury drivers, imo. It should get good mpg too. I'm not sure the $80k four cylinder business is sustainable for MB (or BMW or even Lexus for that matter ) because luxury buyers are used to better.
Where's the wagon? 😢 All gone.
I can't see them NOT bringing a new E Wagon to market. The question, however, is this: Will it come to the US?
In india our roads are worse than a Mario Kart obstacle course and these screens are gonna cause accidents. I feel like German car manufacturers are out of touch with reality. Reminds me of the cadillacs before the brand totally fell off
Today i saw an EQE and i thought.... why o why?. And later on i saw a pristine new-gen S-class in dark blue and THAT is a mercedes. The new E i like the interior, not so much the exterior yet i don´t hate it. All the EQE/EQS models i guess have their target buyer but it´s just not going to be me even if i win the lotto. Oh and i saw a 1y old EQS AMG with a price tag with extras over 180k when new selling for 100k!!. That tells you everything. ok, my comment has nothing to do with the video MM, sorry.
Should’ve had clash of clans app. Lots of old guys in my clan
Routines equals subscription service
It is most beautiful sedan on market today.Great job Mercedes.
Like for the video only as usual... The car itself is funky and I don't like this new Mercedes design language, whether interior or exterior... I think Mercedes had a real character and recently it totally lost it
Hate those grills on MB electrics.
Alpine Grey = old East German Grey
Mercedes is keep making cars that nobody is asking for. They keep over complicating the powertrain and the interior design/tech. Bring back the classic luxury and maybe I will consider trading my 2017 Mercedes GLS for a new one
They have been doing the same to be honest, nothing changed except technology gadgets
Haha The ghost of Ipad's Past 🙈
Bentley is probably the last brand that combines beautiful modern but timeless design, quality materials and high tech properly. You know you're in a luxury car, you open the door and there's wood, leather and metal.
I have a question though: Is there going back to basics from here for Mercedes ?
Or it's a one way technology race and one day we'll all be riding 4 wheel touch screens ?
I'm afraid to answer that last question . . . but here goes: Depends. On what? What the caretakers of any given OEM want? Most want to go on that race to the tech bottom, however I believe there is a path forward to attain what we both want. Have models like this that all the rage. Then, cars like the Maybach or other low volume products, steer FAR clear of screens. Folks that buy vehicles like that are not moved by the latest app or the number of screens. Who knows, it could even become aspirational for current screen junkies and may become in vogue again . . . but one can only dream.
I guess you design and manufacture what sales....and technology sales....
However if you look at sales over the years, especially when the new models came to market, sales the last years are a third or half of previous Mercedes models.
Sure there's more competition and electric cars and more brands.
Ultimately I might be too old and not able to adapt to all this.
I'm 42.
Thanks for the reply and looking forward to your great reviews with a twist
83k for a 4 banger. 72 for a loaded BMW M340 xdrive. Yeah, I’ll take the latter.
A 3 series? Different league.
@@pacmanc8103 yes the 3 series is in a different league…a less expensive one…you can’t even get a C class with a 6 cylinder any longer and the E class 6 is an even larger delta.
@@pokerfred68 In addition to being less expensive, it’s narrower and shorter. I had a 325i coupe back in the day when it was a 6 cylinder. Nice and nimble, but I was in my late 20s/30s. As you get older, effortless power, nice handling, and sophisticated comfort become more important. The 6 cylinder E-class has all that, particularly with the AirMatic suspension and 4 wheel steering. I’ve ordered mine without the super screen but with the open pore maple/aluminum strips dash and console. I suspect that many people who order an E-class from the factory (about 12 weeks for my E450), will opt for the regular 14” screen and not the super screen.
@@pacmanc8103 for the money…the Audi is the best of all worlds. Comfort, performance, amenities, and fair price. As far as reliability and satisfaction, BMW trumps the German competitors. While I’ve never owned a MB, one friend has owned many…he’s now a BMW M550 owner…at 80 years young. Good luck with your new MB.
I'd take neither and spend a bit more for a Porsche.
As an owner of a current e-coupe, I am extremely disappointed in all of the new-gen MB cars. The fact that the CLE has the C-class's trash interior is a huge problem for me. Based on what I have seen and heard, this is the one car that actually improved in interior build quality and materials. I think every passenger display is a dumb gimmick so I'm glad you can exchange it for the yacht-like trim (and skip the awful selfie cam). This car gives me some hope for the next generation of MB. That said, there are things I don't like. On the exterior, I don't like the black plastic around the grille, the MB star taillights and the star-pattern grille. I think these are too reminiscent of faux luxury in low-end LV and Gucci. Gorden Wagener's fascination with this stuff is beyond me. On the interior, I think this retains some of the architecture of the w213 in non-superscreen spec. Though, it still suffers the same issues as all new MB: (i) capacitive touch; (ii) lack of nice, metallic, tactile buttons; and (iii) piano black module on the doors around the seat controls. All of these are things that could be improved in the facelift (grille, taillights, piano black). In that case, I think I might be interested in purchasing one as my 4-door car. I would totally get the 6cyl with brown extended leather + maple flowing lines wood + no hyperscreen!! I guess it's wait and see. The final things on the wishlist are the stunning rotating tweeters on the A-pillars ;)
I ordered the E450 4Matic with the regular 14” infotainment screen and the open pore maple/aluminum strip dash and center console - costs more than the super screen option, but well worth it. Got the macchiato beige/black leather interior and beige headliner, in part because the brown leather only comes with a black headliner, which I don’t like. Ordered the AirMatic suspension package (w/4wheel steering) and 20 inch light alloy/gray wheels. It’s scheduled to arrive at the dealership in about 5 weeks.
I sugggest you see, touch and feel personally cars interior materials and build quality. In my point of view it looks posh, but only looks so. All used materials are fake and gone cheaper as well interior build quality. Squeeking interior, plastics and fake leather-like materials. And smell of new car - it smells like cheap asian crap instead of mature premium brand’s interior
@@pacmanc8103 spectacular taste. Enjoy.
@@vodkatron my brother works as a Mercedes mechanic so I will get over there and spend some time with it when I get a chance! He has been sending me Snapchats of him pushing and banging on all the trim to see how it is screwed together. So far, I think its great - but only if you go for the extended leather.
@@vodkatron You described the last generation, not this one. Every review has stated that this one is a huge improvement in materials and build quality.
I'll take that w124 any day over a new MB
I still drive W124. Still in great condition.
Interior is a disaster. When did not using your cell phone when you're driving devolve into 4 large distracting screens with few hard buttons?
That dash is horrendous. And putting a 124 next to this did it no favors overall. Mercedes will never again be as good as the 116/123/124/126 and 140 Chassis' were. You owned those forever. This you lease and give back before the 4/50 expires.
A friend is a Mercedes wholesale parts manager. Over the last 18 months, his shop has averaged one battery pack replacement per month across the "EQ" line. The first EQS having to be pushed off the transporter and into the shop....
Agree
The chrome is so out of place on this car
What happened to the Mercedes without the terrible build quality and creaks
Too big and road noisy.
Eliminating the "luxury" trim option for E-Class in N. America, was a horrible decision. Thanks for the tacky 2024 grills, Merc.! BOOOOOOOOO!
And that illuminated grill thing REALLY SUCKS TOO!
Mercedes slapping on screens like an add on is going to look so absolutely stupid in the future. They look absolutely stupid now, not most are blind to gaudy tech today...
I refuse to buy any egg-shaped BS that Mercedes puts out. They've lost their way along with BMW. Porsche, please hold strong.
8:50 min - what track is that? Who's singing? 🤔
I like this Benz styling, but it could use some woodgrain interior. 🪵
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