War Movie Tropes at WWII Re-enactments (Collab with Reel History)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2023
- Huge thank you to Jared and Andy from @ReelHistory for taking the time to meet up with me a D-Day Ohio! Be sure to check out the Reel History UA-cam channel at this link: / @reelhistory
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You know what might be pretty cool, is a movie about a WW2 reenactment where one of the participants falls asleep and then is woken up by a sergeant, saying "Ok soldier, time to move out", and he finds somehow he's been transported back in time to the real WW2 Europe, where he has to rely on his reenactment training and skills for survival. .
I think there is a russian movie like that.
R Lee Emery did a "Mail Call" episode where he is in a plane full of paratroops who think it's the real thing. Oh; and you forgot "The Americanization Of Emily".
Thank you for having us on the show!
HI!!!!
As a Canadian, the trope the bugs me the most, is that Canadian ( and other Commonwealth ) military are NEVER mentioned. In the Longest Day , all the scenes with Kenneth Moore happened at Juno ( the Canadian landing site ), Not Sword Beach ( one of the British landing sites ). In Saving Private Ryan, they should have come across British / Commonwealth troops. In Dunkirk, Kenneth Branagh's character in real life was Canadian not British.
Never before have i been amazed by World War wizdom to the point where i actually want to take part in reenactments
You should check out @HistorySecrets, he's who got me into it.
Avoid it all they do is make you feel like a loser
@TheSoldierinus well i have a passion for ww2 and have actually thought about doing it for a while. The only thing that is stopping me from doing this is the cost, plus i dont care what you think i would love to do this
@@TheSoldierinusWhat are you talking about?
@@TheSoldierinus ok Mr back off alright literally all ur videos are war related ok everyone has there own passion and obsession like me mine is Elvis am I proud of it yes do I get messed with over it yes so please respectfully back off this man please thanks man
My grandpa was one of those regular soldiers doing the mundane tedium of war, but what's funny is that you actually maybe could make a movie out of his experience because as a jeep driver for a battalion that managed communications he kind of Forrest Gumped his way through WW2's greatest hits by virtue of driving important people to places or setting up their telephone lines or radio stations as needed and was adjacent to but almost never present for a lot of the biggest events, including marching into Berlin with the 82nd and 101st airborne divisions to set up communications for the Potsdam Conference. He was however in the Battle of the Bulge, being pushed back to the city of Namur and helping to hold a bridge.
“Forrest-Gumped” is a fitting turn of phrase!
Something that comes to mind when reading about these points in history is how everyone had a part, but a small part. One USN vet, when asked “what did you see in the war?” answered that all the fighting he saw was his mechanical computer in Plot. That was his battle station. Of course, asking what he did on liberty could be another story entirely!
"What's the Potsdam Conference?"
I fulfilled a life-long dream by taking a day long tour of Normandy. My Dad was one of the guys who walked across Omaha beach a few days after the 6th. His battalion formed up, marched inland fought their way through the Bocage and into Belgium and into Germany. It was a bucket list item for me. By happy coincidence, I was there on June 4 and the re-enactors were in full bivoac and the roads around the beaches full of period accurate motorcycles and Willys jeeps. Everything came alive for me. I am sorry Dad didn't live to see it again. He always wanted to go, but admitted that all of his memories of Europe involved being shot at all the time.
Thank you for a good video.
World War Wisdom and Reel History. A mashup I dreamed of 😊
My father was in the Navy during WWII in the Pacific Fleet. That’s why I’m fascinated by WWII.
"Up from the Beach" 1965 was the best warmovie about Operation Overlord.
I am lucky enough to possess a war journal diary from a combat engineer battalion during WWII. He wrote again and again about three things: Letters, food, and his quarters / lack thereof. Letters were the only way a soldier could connect with his loved ones back home, and were highly cherished. Food was one of the most looked forward to parts of the day, and sleep was just as important then as it is now. Having a roof over your head or a stove was the best thing for him.
Sounds pretty similar to my great grandads diary, he was Royal Signals in the British Army, and he writes a lot about my great grandma, and other things similar to what you said there, but also things about where they were, what they did. He seemed very interested in the aircraft which flew around him.
The Wardaddy Undercut is historically accurate, and was a popular cut for decades in Britain up to WW2. Was regulation for British Commandos, especially marines. Head had to be shaved up to the line of their Beret rim. Can easily see any US soldier adopting it. Was a common haircut in the German army too. I wouldnt go by portraits, which would have been taken on leave or away from duty, where they let their hair out.
Generation Kill, definitely the most accurate portrayal of grunts, especially the shit talking side of things. yes not WW2, but by todays standards 100%
I agree 100% - Andy
Nice job! Let’s keep these heroes memories alive FOREVER!
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I appreciate the fact that you look age appropriate and physically fit enough to portray a combat soldier. I used to do CW reenactments. First the good, the smell of blackpowder and the camaraderie around the campfire singing period songs with period instruments. Now the not-so-good, people overweight and too old and soldiers trying to look old with long grey beards,( most soldiers were very young) I understand why this is, most photographs were taken of veterans at reunions whom were older and not in good shape.and that is what they are basing their portrayals on. I also didn't like the lack of casualties ( also understandable because of the limited number of reenactors). But overall the comradery and the learning and teaching of history made it worthwhile. Great job with your videos!
this is awesome to see you guys together!
Missed Lee Marvin in the Big Red One
Thanks for the shout out to the Red Ball Express. My fathers WW11 unit. Didn’t know there was a movie about them, I will have to track it down.
An excellent WWII film is "Come and See" released in 1985. It is set in Nazi occupied Belarus. I highly recommend this film to anyone who wants to learn what WWII was like for the majority of people who experienced it.
OMG. It's the perfect WW2 mash-up. My life is complete. Thank you! My dad was in the air corps and his unit fixed the planes after combat, getting them back into service; often they needed to remove the remains of the crew first. Dad was the supply sergeant; I wish I had thought to ask him more about it and find out what kind of wheeling and dealing he needed to do to keep things running and the men fed.
I bet someone could make an interesting movie around the Women workers that built the planes, guns, and equipment that armed the men.
You should come to St. Louis Missouri. Ever year in the last weekend of April. (Except if it lands on easter weekend its the next one). There is a big WWII reenactment with American tanks and US half tracks and german half tracks and AA half tracks. Id love to meet you!
Where is this? I live in STL and would like to see this.
@@carsonthorpe6696 It is at Jefferson Barracks cemetery. You can look up their page online. They post about when it grts closer to april. You can also see when the battles take place. There are 2 on saturday and 2 sunday. It is right here. maps.google.com/?q=38.512250000,-90.279613000
I would LOVE to see both of y'all do more colaborations in the future! Even if they are through a video call, I think that the opportunities are there to have several great conversations that audiences of both channels would love to see!
Great vid
Thanks so much for doing this topic, I’ve been wondering about all these war movies vs reality!!
check us out, we cover that topic......exclusively!
I wish I was this man!
Oh dang, I was wondering who was walking around in the red shirt lol good collab!
I remember watching DDay the Sixth of June as a kid and being absolutely baffled by it. I was expecting a war film 😂
good video!!
A great pairing! I subscribe to you both. Maybe you guys could do a movie watch with an emphasis on uniforms and equipment.
I love this man’s videos ❤❤❤
Great video 👍
Lookin good in that uniform
After Fury, that quasi-in-regs haircut was very popular. I was the unofficial barracks barber and did a ton of these. I thought it looked pretty sick too.
Great combo!
Great video!
Once again young man, you upload amazing content. Very informative, very interesting, and very enjoyable. Please keep the uploads coming, and thanks for sharing.
First video of yours that I've favourited. WW2 mythbudting should be so much more important to do, especially on youtube!
Let’s not forget “A Bridge Too Far”.
I was playing World War II game when you were uploading lol
My grandpa was 79th infantry division cross of Lorraine, 314th infantry, he was a Tec 5 corporal in service company. I wish someone would do a video on the 314th. The little I learned from him was that service company resupplied the front line, guarded prisoners and headquarters. Also transported prisoners from what I understood.
I always go to surplus stores to get my edp(every day prep) gear. The mess kits, field tools, clothing gear...i love all of it.
Its not the Duo we wanted, But its the Duo we needed.
Tapping the magazine before loading into a rifle is to prevent it from jamming... At least on an M16-A2. Maybe it was different back in WW2? Or maybe it's the equivalent of smacking the BBQ tongs a few times before BBQ'ing to avoid fires? :D
Just to add a little comment on the mag tap portion there are also other reason to do it such as making the ammo seat properly towards the back to feed properly.
The collaboration we all wanted
indeed!
Where do you get your blank guns? I want to now to start re-enactments
for his garand its a real m1 with a blank adapter for bolt actions its just a real gun but idk about other wepons
They're real guns with blank adaptors
@@Tonks143 Where do I get them? And can I buy guns wich are already blank?
@@mr.raptor_541it depends, I know you can buy BFONG (Blank Firing Only Non Gun) MP40s and such, but I wouldn’t know where to get them
@@jamesbradley9937BFONGs cost upwards of 3K
You’re an impressive young man. Truly inspiring
WOW, WWW PLUS THE REEL HISTORY DUDE........OUTSTANDING !
I agree!
If I was ever to have done reenactment, I would have done either, the big red one or hell on wheels. Both are units I was actually in.
You're not a WW2 cook unless you have a lit cigarette.
This man is my childhood reenacting hero even in your late teens
So u where 11 when u watched him
Wwii helped grow my patriotism and that is one of the biggest reasons i am facinated with wwii.
The 6th of June sounds like Pearl Harbor, lol
Love the Waffen SS dude strolling by with what looks like a bucket of chicken at the end there
The longest day is a great movie
Actually there was a comedy about the Red Ball Express.
I'd love to see someone do a modern-day (read more historically accurate) version of the D-Day invasion
Cool, watch both of you.
thanks!
I AM ALSO INTERESTED IN THE HISTORY EVEN OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR I'M ONLY 14 YEARS OLD AND IT WAS MY GRANDFATHER WHO PASSED ME HIS PASSION FOR HISTORY I WISH YOU GOOD LUCK FOR THE CHANNEL KEEP IT UP WITH LOVE FROM ITALY
Hey! Ive got that same shirt!
the pidgeotto haircut
I know Kelly's Heroes is considered fiction, but how about a review of that movie in terms of its level of tropeisms in relation to World War 2?
I took my grandfather to see SPR in 1998. Let's just say that wasn't a good idea. My grandfather had several children after the war, and I was the only one he talked to about WW2. I wish I had been able to record it. He only talked about one incident and then just stopped, got up, and walked off into his room.
I think "The Himmelstoss" is perhaps one of the most (if not *the* most) used trope in war movies.
Ummm...these guy seem to have forgotten the incredible D-Day sequence in Sam Fuller's BIG RED ONE. Lee Marvin and Mark Hamill's portrayals are incredible. As is the entire film. Make sure to obtain the extended restored version, NOT the theatrical release.
For the War Daddy haircut: I think it was supposed to signify him giving himself a field haircut for the entire campaign and not trying to depict a common haircut during the war.
“Jarhead 2: field of fire,” looks at the logistics involved in the Marines and their Outposts in Afghanistan.
As a history guy I always thought re enacting was a bit lame but you’ve totally changed my opinion. There’s a lot more too it than just wanting to wear uniforms. 👍
Im not a reenactor or anything but i remember i got the war daddy haircut after fury came out lmao
Now we need a ww2 movie about the rear section guys, just a Comedy about mortarmen auguring with tankers about playing spades and fighting over cigarettes would be hilarious
You are soo coll
How about the Big red one.
You missed "The Big Red One".
Indeed, though you can see reference to the movie in our analysis of Saving Private Ryan.
Wardaddy's haircut would be more accurate to the 1920's than WW2.
He was supposed to have been a career soldier who had served before the war.
It's still totally accurate to the 40's but mostly for german and soviet men. British and US guys prefer some more complicated cuts, but it plausible still. Anyway haircuts wasn't a major topic for reenactment for a long time, before styles from first half of XXth century became a modern fashion. So for me, dozens wardaddies looks more like a huge improvement, than an inacuracy. And thanks "the Fury" for that.
I was there
Genuine question: how do ww2 reenactment groups have people portray nazis while also keeping out the kind of people who get super excited about dressing up as nazis? I guess civil war reenactments have a similar problem tho
For me as a living historian I don't consider what I do as a weekend warrior thin like a lot of people do and for me it's more than just putting on a show and reciting historical facts, I consider it as a lifestyle.
Cuz for me I'm taking on the life choice of portraying those who were either in my family or those who I've admired from afar and it is my job to not only do them justice but to do their friends, their families, and their comrades justice as well and not only that but to see things from their perspective and understand how their generation thought and felt then after all that inner work and historical research then I feel like I'm a part of that generation and I have been all along. If I don't do any of that then I'm not doing my job right.
Really could listen to you for hours talking about WW2 , itll never not be interesting.
i wouldnt call it a trope as such, but one thing that always irked me was the "Beverly hills teenager effect", meaning everyone is much older than the actual ppl they represent.
Just look at SPR, not a single soldier under the age of 25, all of them are older guys , too old for frontline infantry...also Germans look like modern day skinheads or ironically ww2 soviet soldiers with shaven heads.
If u want to talk about ww2 movie tropes check ou the movie 1941
When are you going to enlist?
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You know it’d be better if the historians had manlier voices, and real life service to talk about in connection.
I try my best to fill that void.
@@ReelHistory and.
These history Events look so awesome I wish I could be there🥲
Great topic and uniform, but perhaps an old small paper Notebook next time for notes...(it does look better), but great clip. Another two WWII films I'd recommend and they are often overlooked/forgotten are: 'A Walk in the Sun' (1945) which shows a Platoon of U.S. Infantry landing at Salerno, Italy (set in 1943) but in a small scale within a Platoon storyline ua-cam.com/video/MbmT7d_-d-Q/v-deo.html. Great for checking uniforms and equipment for 1943-44. The other is 'Battleground' (1949) showing Gliderborne troops of the 101st Airborne Division at Bastogne, it's not often that Gliderborne troops are portrayed ua-cam.com/video/QfPI-Y216Qg/v-deo.html