On top of him usually building frozen heart and other tank items, so when he uses w on you while nearby him you attack at like half speed which obviously is not ideal when atk speed is your dps
against nasus the best advice i can give is rushing swifty boots as soon as possible ,on ur minor runes going for the tenacity and slow resist one is also great if not mandatory, before 6 its actually very managable but after 6 it gets rly rough , try to never waste ur Q and W as you will need both of them to keep him away if he ever uses his slow on you to try and engage . usually nasus stays in the side lane to split and farm up so u can eather match him and reduce his presure or have someone else go on the sidelanes to deal with him better and join teamfights as you are way more usefull to your team with all the utility u have
Can you do one on Support Ivern? Being able to just roam into the enemy jungle and deny their red/blue for a quick cash injection when they're topside, or nab a team buff from the void jungle monsters instantly with passive+smite is truly unique in the role with only Bard being somewhat similar. The interaction between Spellblade and multi-charge abilities like his W also deserves some recognition though a video on support is maybe not really the best place to do so XD (I personally keep it to mind as exotic option to compensate for carries like Smolder or APCs who have comparatively low turret damage because its a lot easier to use against stationary targets but it looks like it could peel decently if mastered) Or at least support Neeko (been popular enough to make it to pro play now) or support Poppy (counterpick against dashers like Lucian and Ezreal) because playing them on a lower budget in a duo lane does limit how effective their general guides are.
neeko and poppy definitely would be good support vids but ivern is definitely too niche/dependent on jungle meta to be worth the effort to producing an entire video tbh, would be best to just look at specifically ivern content creators in my opinion
Tbh, Ivern (just like Singed) feels like a troll pick even when played seriously, but he's probably less niche than Poppy. Poppy is just great because of how strong she is within the anti-dash niche as far as I've seen. But fair enough, Support Iven is an exotic pick that deserves more validation (and if we're getting guides for stuff like Support Gragras, it's hard to argue those shouldn't get a turn here). Neeko and Poppy were the ones I tried to pick up recently and just got stumped on, unsure if I was prioritizing the skills wrong or looking at entirely the wrong items (I know in case of Neeko the game recommends almost exclusively active items like rocket belt and Zhonyas which I'll forget to use when I need them most, took me long enough to get used to popping iron solari half of the time its relevant I don't want to have multiple actives in the same build)
Ivern used to be good as supoort when he became broken in general. Now its super hard and too situational to pull off. His passive literally force you to play jungle. He can be really good into specific matchups but you play without passive basically
Irelia is definitely a menace against kayle in match up. But i dont consider her as a kayle counter. She can literally dismantle kayle into tilting and inting, but it still depends on the player, its because if the kayle user is good and is able to survive the early game. Irelia literally looks like a toddler against kayle. What i mean of counters are the champions will literally stomp a champion in every facets of fhe game. Like malph vs sylas (if u know what i mean) 1. Nasus- nasus is not late game but late game nasus will eat late game kayle alive. Nasus got the tankiness and damage. The only thing that kayle can use against nasus is her kiting ability and invulnerability. But ppl forget that nasus W is so broken that a kayle matchup will be ez peazy. In terms of early to mid. Getting stack against a kayke early game is the easiest thing in league. And dont argue sbout their mid game. 2. Tryndamere- the hardest kayle counter of all. Early game trynda with full rage vs kayle with 5 stack, is such a lopsided match. And no way kayle can survive that laning phase. Kayles ult is definitely her only way to win 1v1 matchups. But undying heavily outlasts kayles ult, making the matchup unbearable
Max W-E-Q, core items are Luden, Ionian boots and Liandry, also anti-heal if needed. After that u can go cryptobloom, rabaddon, imperial mandate, zhonyas depending on the game. I personally like to pick Shaco against melee supports that'll have to eat your boxes. Also watch Pinkward, you'll learn a couple of tricks and see his items.
@@Zoe-orZoey like the other guy said its good against melees, if ur against double range may need to have some more points in E, or else ur useless in a 2v2
@@kurohiro5906 don't ban your worst matchups early. Learn your weaknesses and master your strengths. Learn why he beats Kayle and turn it on him. Good luck on the rift
Low elo games tend to last pretty long as people don’t know how to finish games with the average being 37 mins which is nuts! Where challenger games tend to be about 18 minutes so Kayle is great in low elo, as long as your team mates don’t give up by then 😅
What does this comment even mean? Riot should remove the ability to manipulate waves with your champion model? Isn't that in of itself an extremely large part of skill expression?
@@lordfreizaa4013 how is picking a tank skill expression, when u main a champ like kayle, and 90% of the champs lane counter you specifically by freezing only, how is that in anyway skill expression. waht are u ever trying to argue 1 kayle is dogshit unless ur team allows u to get to late game 2 everyone counters kayle 3 all this game is freezing, everylane its freezing, if somehow ur ahead or even if ur not u just have a better champ, u auto win lane and just freeze has 0 anything to do with skill
@jgraham5271 bro what is your argument? That champions have weaknesses? Wave manipulation is part of your skill expression, ever heard of macro??? Look at how this challenger kayle gets almost every wave perfectly no matter the match up, your argument is fodder unless your low elo trying to play kayle in a non kayle meta. I picker her up this past week in emerald/diamond and have constantly dog stomped tanks and bruisers. Kayle has the most broken scaling an ability in the entire game... once you survive
@@lordfreizaa4013 do u think at all before u speak? how many boosters have u taken? 6? are u wearing 2 masks while ragetyping into a reply? this is a kayle youtube channel and im saying kayle is so absolutely useless far more than shes ever been because of things like freezing and the removal of tempo which was her only real way of winning a 1v1 levels 1-3 now tahts gone every single champ counters her, if u want to play kayle u are forced to be countered cause every lane champ and even supports counter her, and freeze her out of any progress, u obv dont play kayle or u play her in iron where everyone is handicapped. stop calling me bro like u trying to get on my level, its cringe at this point i believe u dont play kayle or u would know exactly what im talking about
I do actually agree, manipulating the wave should absolutely be a skillful thing you can do, but freezing and then stopping your opponent from walking within xp range is simply too strong and it’s basically every game! I’ve not found it too bad on the accounts I use for these videos as people tend to mess up their freeze or accidentally slow push, but when it’s been 5 minutes, you’re level 5 and your opponent is level 9 it is savage!
Kayle is the most unbalanced champion in the entire game, early game is so weak ull go 0/10 if ur enemy is good but end game is so strong ull end with 30 kills anyway, she needs a rework
Kayle does no longer have "The best late game". She used to maybe like 4-3 years ago and winrates with game length reflect that. Although that's just one metric to look at. In general, it feels as though her lvl 16 powerspike isn't as strong as it used to be. Especially because she only has the best late game with the ap build. But they pretty much removed omnivamp from riftmaker, especially on ranged champs. She can't get any good sustain anymore with the ap build, and they even added ad ratios to her. Now she's a mediocre scaler that comes online faster. Currently I'd argue it's either Vlad who scales the best or Kassadin. Hard to say, maybe belveth or viego.
Exactly I main her she can easily get dealt with if it was two champs against her especially Nasus Darius and Garen even caith with full lethality build can 2 shot her if I didn’t ult
@@Goat-d7y It's unfair af bro, aboslutely NO ONE talks about how the removal of omnivamp completely killed her. She has several problems. No mr, needing BOTH levels and gold to be good, and being wayyy wayyyy to easy to kite even with her plus 10 movement speed. Nothing stops a particularly decent mage from just one shotting you from afar. It's honestly pathetic. Lethal tempo is getting removed too, which is overall good but her late game will take another hit. She's identityless now.
@@Slendermən yeah at the moment I am trying to play with other runes mainly fleet and PTA just to see which will fit her better after the removal of LT
@@SlendermənI also main her whenever I encounter veigar especially late game he can literally two shot me with his Q and R 😅😅😅😅 for lethal tempo I recommend you to try Press the Attack it is also good for her I played it in Top you just need to position yourself safely while farming and Poking and try to buy on hit Items with Attack speed and you’re good 👍
I think this is fair in theory, and Vlad and Kass are 100% beasts in the late game - but where Kayle is pretty overtuned at the moment in a 35 minute or higher game her win rate is almost 58% which is 2.2% higher than anyone else!
If you are here because you are first timing her in ranked, play something else. You will not perform. You will int. This champion requires skill and experience.
Really? I must be a chad 90% wr top my first full season of ranked. I don’t have all the knowledge but I have good game sense and I can carry either by split pushing or helping my team get kills, take objectives. I’m 10 years late to the party but at the end of the day it’s just a video game not Astro physics
I understood "At level one she starts on minion form" which is pretty accurate
Especially now lethal tempo has gone!
@@3MinuteLeagueofLegends But It came back ! Im a beginner so thank you very much for this tutorial
About kayle matchups i would say Nasus is her worst matchup imo, simply bc he outheals her poke + his W would fk her the most + he might outscale her
Kayle can win with Nasus from level 1 to 5. Also Nasus is NOT late game champion.
On top of him usually building frozen heart and other tank items, so when he uses w on you while nearby him you attack at like half speed which obviously is not ideal when atk speed is your dps
Irelia is the worst matchup (Alois banned her every game in his kayle to master video, yes i used that vid to make this opinion.)
@@kamilsowka6562 ???? since when was that a thing LOL
against nasus the best advice i can give is rushing swifty boots as soon as possible ,on ur minor runes going for the tenacity and slow resist one is also great if not mandatory, before 6 its actually very managable but after 6 it gets rly rough , try to never waste ur Q and W as you will need both of them to keep him away if he ever uses his slow on you to try and engage . usually nasus stays in the side lane to split and farm up so u can eather match him and reduce his presure or have someone else go on the sidelanes to deal with him better and join teamfights as you are way more usefull to your team with all the utility u have
im SO GLAD you mentioned the rune changes
As a LT lover i am horribly upset so im trying to play all my mains especially kayle as much as i can❤❤❤
I’m sure we’ll all soon be very used to it, but at the moment it’s going to be a big meta change!
I just started maining her i love getting to end game
A level 16 Kayle must be some of the most fun you can have in this game!
@@3MinuteLeagueofLegends "oh a fed adc? Sooo cute :3"
*oneshots Him*
Can you do one on Support Ivern? Being able to just roam into the enemy jungle and deny their red/blue for a quick cash injection when they're topside, or nab a team buff from the void jungle monsters instantly with passive+smite is truly unique in the role with only Bard being somewhat similar. The interaction between Spellblade and multi-charge abilities like his W also deserves some recognition though a video on support is maybe not really the best place to do so XD (I personally keep it to mind as exotic option to compensate for carries like Smolder or APCs who have comparatively low turret damage because its a lot easier to use against stationary targets but it looks like it could peel decently if mastered)
Or at least support Neeko (been popular enough to make it to pro play now) or support Poppy (counterpick against dashers like Lucian and Ezreal) because playing them on a lower budget in a duo lane does limit how effective their general guides are.
neeko and poppy definitely would be good support vids but ivern is definitely too niche/dependent on jungle meta to be worth the effort to producing an entire video tbh, would be best to just look at specifically ivern content creators in my opinion
Tbh, Ivern (just like Singed) feels like a troll pick even when played seriously, but he's probably less niche than Poppy. Poppy is just great because of how strong she is within the anti-dash niche as far as I've seen.
But fair enough, Support Iven is an exotic pick that deserves more validation (and if we're getting guides for stuff like Support Gragras, it's hard to argue those shouldn't get a turn here).
Neeko and Poppy were the ones I tried to pick up recently and just got stumped on, unsure if I was prioritizing the skills wrong or looking at entirely the wrong items (I know in case of Neeko the game recommends almost exclusively active items like rocket belt and Zhonyas which I'll forget to use when I need them most, took me long enough to get used to popping iron solari half of the time its relevant I don't want to have multiple actives in the same build)
@@crackmore81 poppy supp is picked like 10x more than ivern, at least emerald +
Ivern used to be good as supoort when he became broken in general. Now its super hard and too situational to pull off. His passive literally force you to play jungle. He can be really good into specific matchups but you play without passive basically
Absolutely, Poppy and Neeko support would make great videos - I’ll get on it!
Irelia is definitely a menace against kayle in match up. But i dont consider her as a kayle counter. She can literally dismantle kayle into tilting and inting, but it still depends on the player, its because if the kayle user is good and is able to survive the early game. Irelia literally looks like a toddler against kayle.
What i mean of counters are the champions will literally stomp a champion in every facets of fhe game. Like malph vs sylas (if u know what i mean)
1. Nasus- nasus is not late game but late game nasus will eat late game kayle alive. Nasus got the tankiness and damage. The only thing that kayle can use against nasus is her kiting ability and invulnerability. But ppl forget that nasus W is so broken that a kayle matchup will be ez peazy.
In terms of early to mid. Getting stack against a kayke early game is the easiest thing in league. And dont argue sbout their mid game.
2. Tryndamere- the hardest kayle counter of all.
Early game trynda with full rage vs kayle with 5 stack, is such a lopsided match. And no way kayle can survive that laning phase.
Kayles ult is definitely her only way to win 1v1 matchups. But undying heavily outlasts kayles ult, making the matchup unbearable
Hey could you do a shaco support? I want to learn how to play him but i don't really know what to buy and what abilities to pick.
Max W-E-Q, core items are Luden, Ionian boots and Liandry, also anti-heal if needed. After that u can go cryptobloom, rabaddon, imperial mandate, zhonyas depending on the game. I personally like to pick Shaco against melee supports that'll have to eat your boxes.
Also watch Pinkward, you'll learn a couple of tricks and see his items.
@@andyvr2361 thx man
@@Zoe-orZoey like the other guy said its good against melees, if ur against double range may need to have some more points in E, or else ur useless in a 2v2
Absolutely - this is great advice ^^ but yes would be a very fun guide to do!
Which runes will Yasuo have when Lethal tempo is removed?
Almost certainly pta, it looks like all lethal tempo users will be going that way!
As a Pantheon main, please inspire more people to play Kayle top. I need the free wins
as someone who's getting into kayle thanks for telling me who to ban
@@kurohiro5906 don't ban your worst matchups early. Learn your weaknesses and master your strengths. Learn why he beats Kayle and turn it on him. Good luck on the rift
Haha did you ever play Pantheon before his rework? I used to main him top with Crystal Flask and 3 mana pots and I would just spam Q 😂
Can you update the guide please?
Do Nidalee or Elise Jungle(Also me:*Proceed to Play Nidalee Mid lane*)
Haha I miss old Nidalee mid! I just checked and haven’t done an Elise on in ages which is mad, going to get on it!
basically farm until lvl 16 ok I get it
If you’re allowed to do so absolutely!
Most game end around 30 mins. In low elo you can't even get to that late game anyway.
Low elo games tend to last pretty long as people don’t know how to finish games with the average being 37 mins which is nuts! Where challenger games tend to be about 18 minutes so Kayle is great in low elo, as long as your team mates don’t give up by then 😅
riot needs to remove freezing meta, this would improve the game in every lane, and bring back skillful gameplay instead of better pick gameplay
What does this comment even mean? Riot should remove the ability to manipulate waves with your champion model? Isn't that in of itself an extremely large part of skill expression?
@@lordfreizaa4013 how is picking a tank skill expression, when u main a champ like kayle, and 90% of the champs lane counter you specifically by freezing only, how is that in anyway skill expression. waht are u ever trying to argue
1 kayle is dogshit unless ur team allows u to get to late game
2 everyone counters kayle
3 all this game is freezing, everylane its freezing, if somehow ur ahead or even if ur not u just have a better champ, u auto win lane and just freeze
has 0 anything to do with skill
@jgraham5271 bro what is your argument? That champions have weaknesses? Wave manipulation is part of your skill expression, ever heard of macro??? Look at how this challenger kayle gets almost every wave perfectly no matter the match up, your argument is fodder unless your low elo trying to play kayle in a non kayle meta. I picker her up this past week in emerald/diamond and have constantly dog stomped tanks and bruisers. Kayle has the most broken scaling an ability in the entire game... once you survive
@@lordfreizaa4013 do u think at all before u speak? how many boosters have u taken? 6? are u wearing 2 masks while ragetyping into a reply?
this is a kayle youtube channel and im saying kayle is so absolutely useless far more than shes ever been because of things like freezing and the removal of tempo which was her only real way of winning a 1v1 levels 1-3 now tahts gone every single champ counters her, if u want to play kayle u are forced to be countered cause every lane champ and even supports counter her, and freeze her out of any progress, u obv dont play kayle or u play her in iron where everyone is handicapped.
stop calling me bro like u trying to get on my level, its cringe
at this point i believe u dont play kayle or u would know exactly what im talking about
I do actually agree, manipulating the wave should absolutely be a skillful thing you can do, but freezing and then stopping your opponent from walking within xp range is simply too strong and it’s basically every game! I’ve not found it too bad on the accounts I use for these videos as people tend to mess up their freeze or accidentally slow push, but when it’s been 5 minutes, you’re level 5 and your opponent is level 9 it is savage!
good shit
Cheers pal!
Can she play ADC?
not good because you share xp with support
Nope. It delays her scaling even more
Indeed as above, she needs the solo xp too badly!
I played her as ADC, If you are patient and If you have a supp who is not rtrdaded, then it is not much different from top
You pick early game champion, you zone her from gold and exp and you dive her with your jungler. Try Kayle mid.
if ur against a good kayle zoning her off wont do much, she does a surprising amount of dmg at lvl 1
@@mikoman1732 More than lvl 1 Darius ?
@@kamilsowka4363if she went LT she's pretty fking strong, maybe not as strong as dar but still
I mean this doesnt stop people from playing her top,plus 9 times outta ten you should have vision and know if youll be dived.
@@IIISPKIIIthey are removing LT next patch
Every time my top laner locks in Kayle, I know we gonna lose
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Q maxing is better than E maxing
Yeah I’ve seen since nashors was nerfed people have started doing this!
The nice thing about leveling E first is it has no mana cost! Makes staying in lane a bit easier.
Kayle is the most unbalanced champion in the entire game, early game is so weak ull go 0/10 if ur enemy is good but end game is so strong ull end with 30 kills anyway, she needs a rework
I guess thats how a late game champ works just like other late game champs
@@Goat-d7y there is literally no other champ who is this strong late game and every other scaling champ has at least playable early game, kayle doesnt
Shhhhh, dont give Riot ideas
@@raziel4235 i like playing kayle too but they really need to fix her
Kayle is extremely strong level 1 with ignite @@steel.9k
Kayle does no longer have "The best late game". She used to maybe like 4-3 years ago and winrates with game length reflect that. Although that's just one metric to look at. In general, it feels as though her lvl 16 powerspike isn't as strong as it used to be. Especially because she only has the best late game with the ap build. But they pretty much removed omnivamp from riftmaker, especially on ranged champs. She can't get any good sustain anymore with the ap build, and they even added ad ratios to her. Now she's a mediocre scaler that comes online faster.
Currently I'd argue it's either Vlad who scales the best or Kassadin. Hard to say, maybe belveth or viego.
Exactly I main her she can easily get dealt with if it was two champs against her especially Nasus Darius and Garen even caith with full lethality build can 2 shot her if I didn’t ult
@@Goat-d7y It's unfair af bro, aboslutely NO ONE talks about how the removal of omnivamp completely killed her. She has several problems. No mr, needing BOTH levels and gold to be good, and being wayyy wayyyy to easy to kite even with her plus 10 movement speed. Nothing stops a particularly decent mage from just one shotting you from afar. It's honestly pathetic. Lethal tempo is getting removed too, which is overall good but her late game will take another hit. She's identityless now.
@@Slendermən yeah at the moment I am trying to play with other runes mainly fleet and PTA just to see which will fit her better after the removal of LT
@@SlendermənI also main her whenever I encounter veigar especially late game he can literally two shot me with his Q and R 😅😅😅😅 for lethal tempo I recommend you to try Press the Attack it is also good for her I played it in Top you just need to position yourself safely while farming and Poking and try to buy on hit Items with Attack speed and you’re good 👍
I think this is fair in theory, and Vlad and Kass are 100% beasts in the late game - but where Kayle is pretty overtuned at the moment in a 35 minute or higher game her win rate is almost 58% which is 2.2% higher than anyone else!
New update
Massive patch changes on Tuesday!
Worst kayle guide i have ever seen, builds and rune pages are completely off.
This video was 5 months ago - I'm guessing you haven't kept up to date with the patches with League being a live game ^^
If you are here because you are first timing her in ranked, play something else. You will not perform. You will int. This champion requires skill and experience.
Really? I must be a chad 90% wr top my first full season of ranked. I don’t have all the knowledge but I have good game sense and I can carry either by split pushing or helping my team get kills, take objectives. I’m 10 years late to the party but at the end of the day it’s just a video game not Astro physics