DO FUNDAMENTALS WORK ON KAYLE???

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  • @TheBloofyx
    @TheBloofyx 6 місяців тому +49

    Fun fact garen's ult is kayle's sword, so if garen ults kayle it's technically suicide

  • @user-wq1uy2ut7n
    @user-wq1uy2ut7n 6 місяців тому +174

    Fun fact, at level 1 specifically Kayle with lethal tempo is one of the strongest champions in the game
    at level 2 onwards she plummets

    • @Dralke008
      @Dralke008 6 місяців тому +6

      ''One of the strongest champ in the game'' no hella no, she is decent, not more

    • @AmeDZ24
      @AmeDZ24 6 місяців тому +50

      nah i think kayle lvl 1 with lethal beats a majority of top champs in 1v1, even darius if he donest kite lethal lvl 1, will lose

    • @zabrac1566
      @zabrac1566 6 місяців тому +11

      @@Dralke008 Give her a shot! LT Kayle with her E and you'll find you can duel and beat a very large majority of top lane champions. Even those that are often considered rather scary or play for level 1. You might even surprise certain players with how much she does. Kayle can all in a Darius level 1 for example, which is often seen a measuring stick for how strong you are level 1. Though she will 100% lose level 2 - 6...
      For example, this Garen wouldn't stand a chance in an all in against Kayle at level 1. Though I think that shouldn't be too surprising as most tops will beat Garen at level 1 but still!

    • @themarketgardener
      @themarketgardener 6 місяців тому +4

      she is, that on hit is crazy with the auto attack resets. much like a trundle at lvl 1@@Dralke008

    • @zboub7025
      @zboub7025 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@Dralke008 just use logic mate. Her E makes her deal more dmg, and it also has an active that scales off of missiung health. Ghost kayle lethal tempo can ghost if you try to poke a bit too much and legit run you down. She's one of the strongest 1v1 champ lvl 1 in the game if the ennemy goes too far

  • @Luunyby
    @Luunyby 6 місяців тому +193

    I think if you get good at her Kayle is basically built for you cause if you just don't lose at the beginning you start to win until you snowball into one of the most absurd champions in the game

    • @genesisnineteen9579
      @genesisnineteen9579 6 місяців тому +5

      I’ve Mained kayle for a while now 200k mastery and I’m stuck in emerald so I’m excited to watch more of this hopefully lol

    • @rishabwarrier2769
      @rishabwarrier2769 6 місяців тому

      As someone who’s been playing Kayla for a while with most* champions it doesn’t even matter then. Just recently I took a bad trade with a yorick as a Kayle around level 4 and died shortly after that didn’t even matter at all. He had four kills on me before I got to level 11 .I ended up soloing him level 15

    • @user-bh2qm9pd2l
      @user-bh2qm9pd2l 6 місяців тому +12

      @@genesisnineteen9579 Just dont play kayle, kayle is such a bad champ because is useless for 20 min in the game, play another champ u will climb

    • @Rivencrck
      @Rivencrck 6 місяців тому +3

      @@rishabwarrier2769yorick is a dog champion not good and in low elo they cant play it not even slightly they dont even know easy stuff like double jump up to d3
      Kayle is strong but if you play against better players there’s little mistakes most dont let you get to a certain point also you don’t give cc and have a squishy top like… if you’re good you climb with anything but there’s better choices
      Don’t forget high elo average game time is lower not so good for kayle

    • @captainadmiral8439
      @captainadmiral8439 6 місяців тому

      You have no agency in the first 20 minutes of the game during a snowball meta and you are countered by range during a ranged bot meta.

  • @ChronicTHX
    @ChronicTHX 6 місяців тому +55

    Alois about to become a Kayle and Gwen 2 tricks after witnessing the power of scaling hypercarries

  • @ronin2865
    @ronin2865 6 місяців тому +1

    Was literally waiting for a kayle vid to come around so I could learn to lane even better with her. Also for the dutch side of you: Thnx voor de geweldig educatieve video's man! Heb echt veel geleerd en ben mede door de fundamentals te oefenen echt een stuk beter geworden dan ik eerst was.

  • @lonemichi5289
    @lonemichi5289 6 місяців тому +16

    When I see ur name I think of peter griffin saying "Ay Lois!"

  • @nathanc939
    @nathanc939 6 місяців тому +3

    Kayle player here!
    Ok so at the moment, in top lane, what feels best is Kraken into AP. Kraken 3rd hit scales like crazy with AP and the item gives you more early power then Nashor.
    How I personally do it, is I go Kraken and Swifties into Nashor and Rift Maker. Swifties make you stupid fast with W and passive, so you can perma push and they can't gank you. It is OP! They also allow you to kite melee champs into oblivion.
    Grasp is also a nice rune, pre 6 you are melee, but you can repeatedly proc it with E, so you can get 20 to 40 before lvl6, which is a LOT of HP, heal and damages.

  • @Squidlord1738
    @Squidlord1738 6 місяців тому +28

    The reason some people go Wit's end first is cause she has the second lowest base MR in the game, so even having a little magic resist early on is super broken. Plus it's an incredibly high damage item on it's own since she has attack speed in her hit, and the magic on-hit adds to it. Plus it's relatively cheap considering it's an adc item that also gives resistances.

    • @skaylingop9673
      @skaylingop9673 6 місяців тому +4

      Kayle has the lowest base MR in the game (yuumi is the only champ that is lower. Except at super late game -- which almost never happens. Beyond that, Yuumi's doens't really matter because she's always on another champ.) **Therefore, Kayle has the lowest MR in the entire game.

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 6 місяців тому

      She has the lowest period.

    • @M3A4SA
      @M3A4SA 6 місяців тому

      She only get higher mr than yummi after lvl 17 with less than one

    • @Walking_Softly
      @Walking_Softly 6 місяців тому

      Its because she was finding too much success as a mid laner

    • @Diergryn
      @Diergryn 6 місяців тому

      Kayle also benefits from the movespeed on Wits End for kiting. On champions with no dashes/gap closers, like Garen, Wits End is a busted first item.

  • @koskingofshields3213
    @koskingofshields3213 6 місяців тому +2

    I'm more impressed by the 295 farm at 27 minutes than anything else. Istg more minions spawn in challenger or some shit, i literally dont understand how to get that number

  • @shiro5157
    @shiro5157 6 місяців тому

    hey alois, glad to see you finally getting to kayle! you seem to have picked up the itemization/rune setups rly fast just looking at your opgg, very nice. only thing is swifties is a bit whatever most of the time, good vs olaf/nasus/aatrox and that's it rly. most of the time berserker's is just better, pen boots can be alright too
    AD kayle feels rly good early but you struggle to catch up to people mid/lategame, tend to like the hybrid builds with kraken/wit's/bork or 2 of those into full AP, rageblade pretty much never good but IE is fine
    try a grasp setup if you feel like, know some high elo kayle players that like it. phase rush can also be good vs some champs like olaf/nasus
    you ALWAYS want to start E, lvl 2 if you're low pretty much always get W to start regening mana, otherwise Q then the other.
    Q max is rly good vs either champs you need to short trade vs or just want to get away from, 3 points Q when this is only the case before 6, and E max otherwise.
    glad to see you going celerity in sorcery, feels rly good

  • @sticksbender4057
    @sticksbender4057 6 місяців тому +1

    To my knowledge, AP Kayle generally scales better but the AD first item does allow you much better wave control, so Kayla players will often rush either Wit’s End or Kraken Slayer and from there decide if they stick with AD or if they transition into full AP. Both WE and Kraken give good attack speed and on-hit damage so both synergies well with your AP items anyways.

  • @MiniTitan802
    @MiniTitan802 6 місяців тому

    In the Garen match-up, 3 points in Q into E max makes the lane so free especially if he doesn't go phase rush runes. You just keep your distance and any time Garen Qs forward you Q+W he can never catch up. Side note Celerity + swifties feel so good for kiting/keeping your distance from gap closing champs like trynd for example.

  • @mireauappel4678
    @mireauappel4678 6 місяців тому

    Hey Alois! Big fan from NL! You should try the Kayle 1v9 / kerberos exodia build. Go fleet with celerity gathering storm or boneplating/conditioning and overgrowth)with swifties rush
    Then kraken>nashors>crown/riftmaker>dcap>lichbane/voidstaff sell boots for rfc
    Lemme know if you try it and what you think

  • @parliamint261
    @parliamint261 6 місяців тому +1

    Lov your vids

  • @andreagonzales5234
    @andreagonzales5234 6 місяців тому

    hey mate! joined the discord server! was wondering why there’s no option for las region

  • @MaxPower-Gaming
    @MaxPower-Gaming 6 місяців тому +2

    My friends and I named it: "THE KAYLE CLOCK". Eventually it runs out, and people always forget....she's a god.

  • @Diergryn
    @Diergryn 6 місяців тому

    In matchups against champions that want to trade early, like Darius and Garen, you can easily force first blood or flash with Lethal Tempo, Dblade, and Ignite. Your E is an auto attack reset. Stacking AS Passive + Stacking AS Keystone = strongest level 1 duelist in the game. You can beat Jax if he commits after E because you have an auto attack reset.

  • @Raspora
    @Raspora 6 місяців тому

    oh mate the lv16 exodia hit me well cheeeeeeers

  • @GestaltKirin
    @GestaltKirin 6 місяців тому

    Is there a reason that you aren't q'ing rammus to cut his armor to minimize his damage?

  • @saminsamad4346
    @saminsamad4346 6 місяців тому

    best content

  • @plasmahandoku1073
    @plasmahandoku1073 6 місяців тому +6

    I used to be a Kayle OTP. But it's the most mental inducing champion you will experience the higher you climb.

    • @SaSo-mk6yh
      @SaSo-mk6yh 6 місяців тому

      I would have climbed if I one tricked but my sanity would have crumbled before that

  • @xdraztiikx
    @xdraztiikx 6 місяців тому +1

    Can you do this series on people higher ranked than bronze. That garen was a bot

  • @chronos4568
    @chronos4568 6 місяців тому

    yooooo we got the kaledamentals

  • @Quintenh-hd8ci
    @Quintenh-hd8ci 6 місяців тому

    I play Kayle and want to hear how you talk through learning her, can you make this long form video instead of fast forwarding?

  • @ejjsu5178
    @ejjsu5178 6 місяців тому

    Is the fundamental course worth buying?

  • @exxon101
    @exxon101 6 місяців тому +1

    6:20 you got the assist anyway, but you should have pressed W on Rengar to ensure the assist o7

  • @Solon
    @Solon 6 місяців тому

    I really wasn't aware that they changed Kayle ult to be able to attack now.

  • @gaijoquasesao5837
    @gaijoquasesao5837 6 місяців тому

    So this is how it started

  • @johancito16345
    @johancito16345 6 місяців тому

    bro alois, let me be clear with these, i dont know if the riven line on the introduction of your videos is supossed to be baddas or something, but it just feels like a wtf thing to say, "everything you made, i was watching you" i dont understand if it is trying to be a menacing line or what, but every time i hear it i just feel awkwardness, like, "yes you were watching me and what" i supose that the voiceline have a context behind but it dosent fit for a intro atleast for me.
    pd: Please have in mind these, is not an attack to you, i absolutely love your videos bro and watch them when i have the time, love u bro

  • @Hyunjin_is_Bread
    @Hyunjin_is_Bread 6 місяців тому

    LETS GO KAYLE

  • @jonasbrob
    @jonasbrob 6 місяців тому +1

    Kayle is great champion for this series coz she all about knowing toplane matchup and wave managment she doesnt do anything else. howerver she also really sucks in high elo. up to masters it should be easy to cheese some wins with her tho

  • @El_Lobo_Espadachin
    @El_Lobo_Espadachin 6 місяців тому

    would you try skarner no prove that fundamentals really works in anything?

    • @thatguy5233
      @thatguy5233 6 місяців тому

      nah skarner is different, it's not gonna work my dude, because he's not about winning the game, he's about making enemy adc uninstall the game (jk)

  • @d3xtr144
    @d3xtr144 6 місяців тому

    Does anybody have a link to this game?

  • @asdfkljlkjdfkg2290
    @asdfkljlkjdfkg2290 6 місяців тому

    YAYYYYYYY KAYLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

  • @hmmm.324
    @hmmm.324 6 місяців тому

    IMO, if you are good at funda mentos, you can reliably climb from low elo to around diamond/low masters with maining kayle in this Meta.
    Meta rn eversince snowballing got nerfed is to scale. Since kayle is such a powerful late game champion, learning NOT to die early will literally give you above 50% winrate (though that can be applied to all champions, kayle is simple yet perfect for simply not dying)
    She's only bad higher elo, because if you first pick her, a simple dive jungler like elise and a setter like camille will get you tower-dived 24/7.

  • @iezyoucpvp5529
    @iezyoucpvp5529 6 місяців тому

    im a ryze top main and you didnt mention him at all in your tier list, i think the wave clear and the op scaling with the tempo gainer ult give ryze alot of potential and he feels really good to climb on, what do you think?

  • @FIREJJAY
    @FIREJJAY 6 місяців тому

    WE FOUND THE MENTALS 🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @dealwithvilex9216
    @dealwithvilex9216 5 місяців тому

    bro y go ad vs ramus
    ???

  • @kyokushinheart
    @kyokushinheart 6 місяців тому

    I think this is the perfect champ 4 U…
    U know how to get exp/gold and you can real time analyze what the game needs. And Kayle is this rare chap that can change item path mid game and everything works

  • @MrURBETTA
    @MrURBETTA 6 місяців тому

    Do a video on VOLIBEAR

  • @sladewilson3337
    @sladewilson3337 6 місяців тому

    Why kayle answer garen call to ult herself and die?! She's so good or what?

  • @odkelly13
    @odkelly13 6 місяців тому

    Bro was in Kayle's best match up and though yea I wonder if when I can hit people for free if I win😂🤣

  • @hypernoval334
    @hypernoval334 6 місяців тому

    7:45 I remember you can’t auto when Kayle use R ? Or I’m just wrong

    • @mrhakk4538
      @mrhakk4538 6 місяців тому +2

      kayle got reworked

    • @hooskyfloosky1653
      @hooskyfloosky1653 6 місяців тому

      Kayle got a buff start of season 13 (increased R range, duration, and you can auto in R)

    • @OmenLamb
      @OmenLamb 6 місяців тому

      Patch 13.9 Kayle received a Mini-Rework to her Ultimate.

  • @_Panther_
    @_Panther_ 6 місяців тому

    so for kayle I like PTA more than LT or fleet and maxing q is better than maxing e so we can slow the enemy when we want to escape and do high dmg to them, but Im glad to see that u playing kayle

  • @harmstrijbosch4578
    @harmstrijbosch4578 6 місяців тому

    Do ap kayle sometimes as well pls

    • @hooskyfloosky1653
      @hooskyfloosky1653 6 місяців тому

      100% AP kayle is bad toplane. Kraken first is just way too good

  • @umar5138
    @umar5138 6 місяців тому

    Imagine AA garen and kaisa almost died from that aoe AA lol

  • @NewMetaTV
    @NewMetaTV 6 місяців тому

    Im pretty sure lt kayle just giga wins vs garen till like lvl 5

  • @vutorweba1882
    @vutorweba1882 6 місяців тому

    Kayle has the best lv 1 in the game

  • @skoodlemoose
    @skoodlemoose 6 місяців тому

    plays 1 game against one of kayles best matchups vs a player who is absolutely sprinting it.. fundamentals!

  • @MyHonestReakshan
    @MyHonestReakshan 6 місяців тому

    Ask drututt for coaching

  • @zabrac1566
    @zabrac1566 6 місяців тому +5

    I'm far from being good at the game, but Kayle is my OTP. I'd definitely consider going for BotRK this game. Garen gets some level of tank, but Rammus and Ksante typically get pretty beefy. If you are going BotRK, Rageblade is often a good pairing with it and then you want another on hit item. Nashors, Wits or Kraken. Kraken probably makes the most sense here, but Nashor's would be fine as well I think.
    Garen is a really free match up for Kayle. Consider running Lethal Tempo instead of Fleet Footwork. LT gives Kayle so much damage at level 1, there is a ton of matchups you can just bully level 1 with LT and E because of how much damage Kayle has. For example Darius can be all in'd at level 1 and Kayle wins, but from level 2 onwards you have to take a more reserved playstyle. Fleet is good into champions where you need either the extra movement speed or extra healing. For example, Fleet + Unflinching + Swiftness vs Nasus allows you to mitigate his Wither, or a similar setup but with Celerity vs Yone to stop him running you down with E combo. Kayle primarily has 2 major runes, Lethal Tempo and Fleet Footwork, 2 viable mythics with Riftmaker and Rageblade and then tons of situational items. Wits vs AP, Kraken vs Brusiers, BotRK vs Tanks, Nashor's for damage, Deathcap, Lichbane, Void Staff, Rylais, Hourglass etc etc. Even her abilities are situational with both Q and E max being viable in different match ups!
    She is weak to ganks and some lanes counter her heavily but man do I enjoy how much games feel in my control. She scales like a monster so that can be a win condition, she split pushes really well, can play a supportive role with her ult to save fed teammates and with her surprising all in potential at level 1, she feels super fun imo! Though again, I'm not high elo so she is probably only viable because games are longer in lower elos where I play (Currently Gold 1, 80% WR 40+ Kayle games, Emerald 4 mmr)

    • @zakarakide8005
      @zakarakide8005 6 місяців тому +1

      Just a question though, since rammus garen and ksante specifically get a lot of armor, especially with kayle’s teamcomp in this game where 3 out of 4 damage dealers were ad surely going ap is better, or at the very least bork is bad considering how much armor they are bound to stack. Plus rageblade does give penetration but even lategame that is only 15%. I could be wrong though

    • @zabrac1566
      @zabrac1566 6 місяців тому

      @@zakarakide8005 Definitely things to consider though I personally haven't really found enemies building armour to do very much against Kayle. Her damage is pretty mixed with the majority of items so going for item combos or power spikes is often what I focus on instead. BotRK comes online very early, provides both mobility and lifesteal so makes facing those champions pretty easy in the mid game. Blade of the Ruined King could work as a stop gap to then transition into Nashors -> Riftmaker -> Deathcap or something along those lines if you wanted. I just find that BotRK against tanks always feels effective even if they will end up building armour. Kraken can also fill that role as it's a pretty cheap item but you won't have any mobility to enhance your kiting. Kraken or BotRK into the other or one of them into Nashor's, I think both are good ways to go and a fantastic example of Kayle's flexibility.
      Kayle will eventually end up as a mixed damage carry when she comes online no matter what you build so it's more so a journey of getting there I find. Keep in mind that ideally your own team will also be different damage types so if you went for more ad and they build armour, it would open more chances for Azir to shred (hopefully 🙃)

    • @krulak292
      @krulak292 6 місяців тому

      I disagree heavily. If you see Rammus, you have to go full AP or you're trolling. And AP Kayle DELETES tanks anyway, theres zero reason to almost ever go bork, unless it's 2 HEAVY tanks like mundo and chogath for example.
      I'm not particularly high, I'm a diamon 1 Kayle EUW player, but that's what I saw what worked. You should go AP MAJORITY of the time, because why even pick kayle if you're not looking to scale???

    • @thepapavulture8322
      @thepapavulture8322 6 місяців тому

      @@zakarakide8005 Typically Kayle feels ebst going AD into AP. Kraken or BoRK, and thats simply on the fact that AD Kayle scales/spikes quicker but plateaus faster than AP Kayle, however, early on, your E will not be hitting that hard building Nashor's in lane that often so an ad item into Nash into Rift will help with making the game feel a lot better imo if youre willing to delay your rab spike for comfort and feeling much more comfortable wit a match

  • @camstudiosfrmd8
    @camstudiosfrmd8 6 місяців тому

    First big

  • @thecroatianlad882
    @thecroatianlad882 6 місяців тому

    Why would anyone not dođe against this champion? So unfair

    • @notdesmondesmond
      @notdesmondesmond 6 місяців тому +1

      Same reason you dont dodge a Nasus. You shut down their early then they cant play the game.

  • @aranvella9144
    @aranvella9144 6 місяців тому

    Kayle is just freelo

  • @alaybey9771
    @alaybey9771 6 місяців тому +3

    Day 2 of asking alois to add twitch chat to his videos.

  • @michaelbyrne7323
    @michaelbyrne7323 6 місяців тому

    You should ask druttut to coach you on kayle. So hard to see you play the early game in one of the easiest matchups

  • @andreabrighenti761
    @andreabrighenti761 6 місяців тому +1

    I've seen lot of people go kraken into full AP.
    late game AP kayle will always be better because your spells all scale with AP.

    • @d4s0n282
      @d4s0n282 6 місяців тому

      who??? I have never seen this at all lmao

  • @Mark-vj7tr
    @Mark-vj7tr 6 місяців тому

    o7

  • @rokarsovic7928
    @rokarsovic7928 6 місяців тому +1

    You are a ex challenger player smurfing in low elo. This garen is plat IV no wonder u are beating him. He is just sprinting it and not playing well. Try doing a video like this one in diamond and above. Fundamentals dont matter here + its a great matchup for kayle.

  • @homoop2431
    @homoop2431 5 місяців тому

    Ap kayle better also y 3 points q if ad xd

  • @izaakwedgwood9153
    @izaakwedgwood9153 6 місяців тому

    Chooses to play ad Kayle, annoyed that rammus is good against it

  • @Kampfkrebs1
    @Kampfkrebs1 6 місяців тому

    Pre rework Kayle was better. :)

  • @exxon101
    @exxon101 6 місяців тому

    AD Kayle is TERRIBLE compared to AP Kayle. Trust me on this. They play exactly the same, they both just autoattack, so it's easy to compare them. And AP wins easily.

  • @imonutiy
    @imonutiy 6 місяців тому

    Too many inputs on kayle says riven main

  • @NotKanon
    @NotKanon 6 місяців тому

    need you to waste money on a skin bro!

  • @BlooDh3xx
    @BlooDh3xx 6 місяців тому

    Oh boy...
    That garen was playing on slow mode. He should have won that matchup

    • @Nick-dk6kc
      @Nick-dk6kc 6 місяців тому +11

      What do you mean? Kayle is one of Garens worst matchups

    • @zabrac1566
      @zabrac1566 6 місяців тому +1

      Like other commenter said. Similarly skilled players, Garen is a free lane for Kayle. I don't play the reverse so I dunno how hard it feels on the Garen side, but I 100% expect Kayle to win that nearly every time.

    • @d4s0n282
      @d4s0n282 6 місяців тому

      its so shit on garen side, unless you do some tech of t2 boots right into zeal, its legit unplayable for garen@@zabrac1566

  • @Theraim
    @Theraim 6 місяців тому

    kayle wins if opponent has no clue about what he's doing. if he does, you lose the game. just a coinflip champ really, with the addendum that if your team is behind you get ff at 15 and you never scale.
    also, you don't really scale that much. i doubt you can get to challenger playing kayle alois. not because of your or kayle in itself, but because it will take a bit more time than what you would like and you'd be better of playing for more meaningfull content!

  • @biglittleboy9827
    @biglittleboy9827 6 місяців тому

    Kayle is a very weak champ. He is smurfing AND play against a garen who is the only bad champ ( singed too ) into Kayle. Keep that in mind.

  • @turbo6328
    @turbo6328 6 місяців тому

    There we go, folks, proof that the mentos are funded on any champion on the game.