MIDI Guitar 2024 - My reasons for choosing software over hardware
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- For anyone interested in the idea of being able to play a lot of different instruments and sounds with their guitar (like our keyboard colleagues have done for years), but hasn't kept up with the latest developments in the MIDI Guitar scene, I am presenting the software alternative solution here. JamOrigins next next-generation software MIDI Guitar 3 should be considered a serious alternative for a couple of reasons, which I list in this video. MPE, Infinite sustain, the new MIDI Machine Shredder, and a few new synths are displayed here. Of course, there are going to be differences in opinion as to what is the better alternative, software or hardware, and I'll gladly discuss that in the comment section below.
My reasons for using software over hardware (not only for MIDI but also for amp sims and FX) is because my work requires me to travel constantly so I carry my headless Steinberger guitar, Windows laptop, iPad and a small audio interface, all fits in my carry-on, I hope version 3 is released soon for Windows and iOS
Hi Alex. I'm interested into your approach. Do you have a video talking about this or an article? What music do you play? I'm interested in the sound quality and also the huge diverse possibilities of software. Thanks!
I have a similar setup for my most mobile stuff. And I also prefer to have everything (including Amp sims and fx) on the computer, and preferably saved down to the patches when possible. And I too hope that MG3 is coming to all platforms soon enough, but that is completely out of my hands, unfortunately. 👍
@@federicotarquinimusica No, I'm not a youtuber but LoFiLeif has several videos with a similar setup, my only suggestion different from LoFiLeaf is the audio interface, I have the iConnectivity Audio4C which is small and lets me use 2 devices at the same time, so this is great to send audio back and forth my Windows laptop and iPad and process audio in any or both at the same time
@@Alex_Martz Thanks!
@@lofileif Great. Do you have videos on amps/fx (software) on you channel? Great information! Cheers from Argentina
Can't wait for it to be officially available!
I know! Let's hope it doesn't take too long! 👍
You are awesome. Thank you. ❤
Hey man! YOU are awesome! Love your bass playing! 👏👏👏
Yet another great overview
Thanks Peter! 🙏 I have been meaning to at least throw this software vs. hardware question out there for a while, but I haven't had the time. To be honest, I expected a lot more backlash from the hardware defender side of the community. This is, after all, the internets. But I guess, there is still time?😊
You Rock 🤘😀🤘 @lofileif and Jamorigin! Thank you for your videos and comments And also using Ample Bass Jaco Fretless + Ample Bass Upright o this one. Best regards from AmpleSound 💕❤ Will contact you Soon . Have a great Weekend!
Thanks Jason! Yeah, it became something of an Ample Sound fest this time, with the Jaco bass that I have played almost every day since I purchased it, But also the Patitucci TR6, and the Hellrazer. The right is of course one of my goto instruments for jazzier ECM stuff as well. Have a great weekend as well! 🙏👍
Great stuff! I'll have to try MIDI Guitar 3 when it comes out for Windows, I wasn't too impressed with the second iteration compared to my Fishman TriplePlay Connect.
Yeah, let's see if this isn't a step up from that at least? 👍
I'm stuck between going the software route and hardware route. I'd prefer hardware for the hands-on feel and knob turning, but being locked into a 6 string or ~4 octaves for the GK5 pickup is a huge turnoff. I play 8 string guitars for more range to transcribe songs from film and video games.
I guess if I'm ending up in Cubase or Ableton anyway, I might as well use a hybrid setup: MIDI Guitar 2 + some VSTs (Komplete 14 CE), and run a Radial EXTC Stereo for an effects loop of guitar pedals.
To each his own. We all do what feels best for us. I am not comfortable with any 8-string. Luckily, it seems, as most setups struggle with extended range instruments. I can still access the same low tunings, of course, but retuning the output. And I love the idea of having everything already set up in patches, and just connect my instrument and controllers. But it is just a matter of taste I think. I am to old to be carrying a lot of gear around. I rather show up with just a computer and a guitar. 👴💻🎸
In the past, I'd used Mel 9 and others in the line, that simulate different instruments, but felt hamstrung by the fact your recording could not be altered. I love the midi guitar software for orchestrating songs.
It is great for so many reasons! You can rearrange or retune on the fly, as you are performing, or you can do it after the fact, when everything is recorded! And that is not even scratching the surface. 😀👍
@@lofileif I'm a huge fan of this software tool, thanks again!
I still want to be able to play external rackmount synths
Yes? Well, with MIDI Guitar 3 you just use the MIDI OUTPUT module, and connect the computer to whatever you wish to control. And you can use MIDI 1.0 or MPE depending on what synth you are playing.
I JUST started down this rabbit hole a few weeks ago!
Got midiguitar 2 up and running on the iPad and now SWAM instruments are on deck!
Any chance you could help with routing an expression pedal to various parameters in a SWAM Auv3 (in loopy pro would be precisely what im trying to do, however any exposure to midi mapping the pedal to an auv3 instance would be pointing me in the right direction)?
[Edit: tangential question - which parameters are best for the expression pedal? Is it one for all SWAM instruments or does it change from one to another?]
Welcome down! 🤝 I don't know anything about Loopy Pro, I am afraid, but for all SWAM instruments in general the only parameter that needs a controller assigned is Expression. So if you "only" have one pedal it is that you should target. Check on the forum, for other users using Loopy Pro. I think I've seen discussions about it there. jamosapien.com
@@lofileif wonderful thank you so much! I had assumed Expression would be the obvious option, but my ignorance has lead me astray like that in the past, so much appreciated
Eventually a breath controller is an endgame dream (thanks to your vids) but I should be able to cover my needs with what I have (for now lol)
Any useful parameters recommended with an addional sustain pedal (along side the already established expression pedal)?
I started with a Roland GR synth, and went on to the Roland and Axon guitar-to-midi interfaces. It opened a new world for me, and I sold my hardware units back when Jamorigin MidiGuitar 2 came out. I was actually worried I couldn't sell it, if people had discovered there was a software solution. My experience was that MidiGuitar 2 was that is was least equal in latency and response to my old hardware units, but for a lot less money, and a lot simpler to set up. Now MidiGuitar 3 is absolutely best-practice gear for midi guitar, imo, just fantastic. I never play live with it, though, as midi guitar got me interested in learning keyboards (which I have to a basic level), but I use midi guitar to record, frequently. Love playing lead synths and sampled orchestral instruments on guitar!
Sounds awesome. I also have a rekindled interest in Synths from starting to dig deeper into virtual instruments, but unlike you I never learned to play keyboards good enough for me to wanting to preform with them. 😀👍
@@lofileif Yeah, well I only feel confident to perform with guitars, but enjoy recording keys and synths played with midi guitar. You play midi guitar like no other I've seen, you should def perform with that if you don't do it already.
It's wonderful
I am glad you like it. 😀👍
I did all the Roland GK3, still have a few guitars with 13-pin, mostly for my SY-1000. However, I also play keys, and now with MPE and polyphonic aftertouch, keyboards can also be expressive.
For expressive keyboard control, MPE, I use a KMI Kboard-Pro-4, 48-keys, usually for leads; for everything else velocity and mono aftertouch - both common - work fine.
Unfortunately MIDI keyboard controllers and keyboards that support MPE, poly AT, are few, and often expensive, but should be more common in a few years.
FWIW, I don't use my keyboards to sound like guitars, and vice versa. Finally having true expression with MPE capable keyboards is great, and I no longer follow or care about guitar synths such as the GM-800. Keeping my SY-1000 and SY-300 because I have guitars with GK3/13-pin, and patches I created.
IMO
So you are happy with the expressive capabilities you already have. Sounds great! 👍
@@lofileif yes, but it took years and lots of money and some effort to finally get here, thanks to MPE! cheers!
Looks really promising! Can I ask how the breath controller connection is done? I mean what breath controller you use and how is it connected with the computer or interface ? thanks! great content as usual
Sure! The Breathcontroller is connected via USB to the computer (although I am using a WIDI Uhost with a powerbank sewn into my guitar strap to get that wireless connection. Bur here is a video the actual controller. MIDI Guitar 2 and the TEControl BBC2 Breath controller - explaining that mouth thing
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A great time to be alive. So, can you tell me if there is any preferred pickup configuration for MG3? Like single coil vs humbucker? I have an old 1966 kalamazoo with melody maker pickups. And a Spector with active EMGs. Surely some pickups produce a signal that MG3 likes more than others? Thanks again Leif!
Everything that worked for Mg2 will work here as well. So i guess a solid body, humbucker, bright tone guitar would be best, but most everything will work!
What an amazing creation!!! Is the alt tuning functionality available in MG3 beta, if not WHEN? This feature solves the midi guitar software conundrum for me! I’m still using my VG-99 precisely because of multiple custom tunings.
There is a RETUNER module in MG3 now, where you can incrementally change any or all of the individual pitches of any octave split (between 6-18 notes) of your choice . You can also load tuning files into it, changing tuning/temperament that way. If you are thinking of alternate tunings like DADGAD and such, MG# doesn't recognize strings. It only recognize pitches, and any group of pitches can be retuned or harmonized in particular ways, but traditional retuning will have to wait until/if MIDI Guitar 3 get hexPU support.
I have a Jamstick studio midi guitar (connects via usb-c or Bluetooth) & I also have Midi Guitar 3.
I can only play my Jamstick midi guitar at 64 samples before latency starts to become a factor, whereas using my actual guitar running through Midi guitar 3 software, can run at 256 samples and still have near abouts the same latency. Much more headroom with CPU, and tracks unbelievably well!
Hi Sam! I am so glad to hear the honest opinion /report from an actual user of any of the rival systems (that I haven't had a chance to try for myself yet). Often I feel MIDI Guitarists assume an almost unreasonably protective stance in favor of the system they invested in. And aI can understand that. It is a leap of faith, and often at a considerable cost. So you probably don't wan to hear of anything else being better, even if only at stuff not really considered to be that particular setup's strong point. Therefore I find your report exceptionally refreshing, and thank you very much for it! 🙏🙏🙏
@@lofileif mate, all I’m after is the best product, and MG3 is a game changer. I was wondering if you might be open to making a video, detailing the best way to set up a guitar for tracking in MG3 (string size, dampening techniques, gates) all of that
@@samuelallenmusic Maybe later! Since the product isn't even finished yet it seems a bit premature to do a video now already. Besides, I must confess I have a pretty busy schedule just keeping up with presenting all the new features😀
@@lofileif yea fair enough! Keep up with the videos bro! I enjoy them thoroughly
You're timing couldn't have been better. Just yesterday, I was lamenting not having a good solution for playing MIDI via my guitar. I've looked at the various hardware solutions, but the expense, guitar modifications, and less than stellar results were unacceptable. Software MIDI solutions didn't fare much better due to various types of pitch accuracy issues, and constraints on how to play the guitar for good MIDI translation.
MIDI Guitar 2 caught my attention about a year ago, and that was when I had real hope that good MIDI via a regular guitar could be achievable soon. MIDI Guitar 3 looks like that day is arriving. Do you know about when it will be available on Windows to try it out?
Thanks for all your great videos on MIDI for guitar. Your expertise, knowledge, pragmatic approach, and Demos show there is a viable way forward for those of us who prefer Software solutions. Thanks
Oh, thank you for all those kind words. And I am really happy to be in the right place at the right time with this video too. I feel there are many like you, that are looking around just to find very little. I feel that myself when looking for great videos on what different solutions offer. There Is very little to go by, if anything.
I really wish I could give everyone that ask about PC and Windows a date or at least an estimate, but I have nothing, sorry to say. The best advice I can give you is to keep an eye on the JamOrigin beta page, because that is where anything official about the MG3 development will be announced first. 👍
www.jamorigin.com/beta/
I’ve been using Midi Guitar 2 with my Mac and iPad for years now. With my current gigging setup, I use my Quad Cortex as an audio interface into my iPad with AUM running Midi Guitar 2. Will Midi Guitar 3 be released for IOS anytime soon?
I don’t know. You can follow the JamOrigin beta page to get all the latest news. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif Thanks for your reply. Your videos are so detail oriented that I was assuming you were the developer. I see now that you aren’t. Great job with the videos, though! My only complaint about the new version is that it seems a whole lot more complicated than Midi Guitar 2. Quite the learning curve, but I guess that’s to be expected with the vast amount of additions and improvements to an already great piece of software.
Thanks again!
I have had a minor part in helping the developer out (JamOrigin) with some feed backing during the last years of this process. I guess that helps out a little when it comes to knowing some of the details? About the MG3 complexity; I believe it will be easier to get started with MG3 compared to how I remember my own tackling MG2.While there is really nothing special here you NEED to do to get started, there is of course a whole bunch of stuff you CAN do in MG3 once you are up and running. Time will probably tell me if I am wrong here, but I think MG3 is really more accessible that much of the competition, because everything is on the surface. There are very few settings in hidden menus, and stuff like this. 👍
I looked into midi guitar 2 a few years back but my aging MBP was way below specs. Recently bought an M1 MacBook Air, my main focus these days being MPC Live2 & Akai Force along with various guitars and vocals. Question is, Will Midi guitar 2, and 3 work on M1 'Air' (low spec 8gig ram a pensioner budget special) Also, and if so, would 2 come with automatic upgrade to 3, or should I just wait for 3. Would download demo of 2 as a test but that may exclude a demo of 3, so would I be best to just wait for 3 before trying.
Hi Stephen! MG2 will definetly work, and for most uses MG3 on an M1 computer should be fine. But it all depends on what instrument you are going to play, and a lot of other factors, like sometimes real-time control over some instruments parameters is unreasonably CPU hungry. My advice is always, don't take anybody's word for it - try the demo instead. And I believe you (as a Mac user ) can get both versions demos right now. Way down on the page. look for Downloads (but this is still in beta, just so you know) www.jamorigin.com/beta/
And here is the "old" MG2 demo:
www.jamorigin.com/download/
These are different apps, so you can have both installed side by side.
@@lofileif Thanks. Guess I'll just try the demo of both and see what works for me. Mainly interested in using guitar to play 3rd party instruments in Live and MPC.
They tend to make the guitar sound "Casio". I'm still about 90% on the IDEA that the keyboard is the midi. But there are a few sounds that fit guitar use. More so if there are two guitarist and no keyboardist.
If it used to sound Casio, it sounds Oberheim now. 😀👍
what midi device are you using for that blowing thingy stuff?
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love using Midi guitar 3, works great… still need to experiment with MPE tho
It is awesome. If you haven't already, go download the Surge XT synth. It is free, and has a lot of functions including MPE and also MTS-ESP for cool retuning stuff.
@@lofileif Been making music for almost 20 years so I own a lot of software and hardware synths… I love using Imagine by expressive e (with touche) which is mpe capable, just need to experiment more with midi guitar 3 I guess :)
@TomislavRupic Imagine is a great physical modeling instrument with a lot of expressive options, but it is not MPE. Touché is just a four CC controller sending on CC16-19, so any instrument you control with it (Lié, Noisy, Imagine or the UVI Touché presets) are easy to set up in MG3 as well.
Expressive É has some MPE soundsets out however. Patchwork for UVI Falcon and the Phase Plant expressive suite.
I play 5 or 6 voice jazz chords. Is MG3 really that good at polyphony? I still work with hex pickup, GP-10 into Ableton and MG2 on each channel to convert to Midi.
Good or not is going to be depending on HOW you play those I would say. If you are a clean picker/strummer like Joe Pass or Jim Hall you can get away with almost everything. I use five/six notes in my chords all the time (and I am NO Joe Pass 😄), and the difference from using MG2 is incredible. Will it beat the clarity/sparation in a hexPU setup? I don't know, you have to try for yourself to see if it is what you are looking for. But I brings out the dynamic nuances in a way that isn't achievable with any hexPU that I have tried. So, try it before you buy it, is my advice. 👍
I mainly play guitar with my Surface Pro live using plugins. I use Cantabile as a live host and can easily change to any sound I want, so MIDI guitar 2 has been great for controlling virtual instruments.
Yes, there have certainly been a couple of great gig rigs like Cantabile, Camelot and Gig Performer already. But I am curious to see if most of the work you use to do in those isn't going to end up in MG3 eventually? It will certainly be interesting to hear how MIDI Guitar users in general choose to handle the new possibilities. As an add-on to an already existing rig (not to rock the boat), or just make a clean switch to a new setup altogether. 🧐
@@lofileif When the Windows version of MIDI Guitar 3 comes on line, I will assess the hosting issue. Cantabile has a nice pre-load function which means no delays between presets which MG2 didn't have.
There is no such function in MIDI Guitar 3 at this point (although it has been discussed), so I guess you'll stay with your setup even if you switch to MG3. It is a really nice feature though, so I hope we will get it in MG3 eventually. 👍
Congrats, MG3 is the best tool ever...I only play my guitar with it now 😀
@@flaviosgpinto Thanks Flavio, that makes me glad to hear! 😀
Any news on Midi Guitar 3 for IOS? I’ve invested a quite a bit of money in apps for my iPad and was using Camelot for a bit. Also not sure if Midi Guitar 3 will work on my main music Mac as it’s running on High Sierra currently as that’s the latest OS it will run.
I haven’t heard anything about the iOS release, but the best way to keep up to date is to check out the beta page:
www.jamorigin.com/beta/
4:40 but FTP have also a wires version "FTP connect" w/o dongle... You tested this one?
Nope, just this "old" one. The wired version wasn't really interesting anyway since I started looking at FTP because it was wireless. By the time they released the "connect" version, I was already a devoted JamOrigin(er) 👍
@@lofileif
GK have 13 pin (DIN)
FTP have 4 pin (USB)
It's a testing time
@@sepic5407 You are way too cryptic. I have no idea what you mean.
Any idea when Midi Guitar 3 will be released?
Please check out the beta page for all available information and news about the status of development process. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
I want this.... when is it going to be available?
If you are on a Mac, you can join in today. It is still in the beta testing phase though. If you are on a PC or iPad you'll have to wait. All avalible info at www.jamorigin.com/beta/
Sadly I’ve struggled with latest MIDIGTR software despite having a very powerful and incredibly fast MacPro tower. I’m currently having more success with Fishman TriplePlay. But I am very open to working on this…. regards from London 🇬🇧
Well, it is still in beta, so I would have been surprised to see no setups having issues or struggling with the software during development. With that said, I am sorry to hear of your negative inital experience, it is always better if everything works straight out of the box of course. What was the latest MG3 betaversion you tried, if I may ask?
Plan B survives solidly behind your shoulders with VG-99 and GR-55. Nice. Their alternate tunings and guitar simulation cannot be replaced by midi.
Plan B is just collecting dust at this point. A fun backdrop for all of us who knows anything about it, but while their guitar simulations are still ok, alterate tunings won’t be a problem for MG3 going forward. Can’t disclose too much at this point though! 😀👍
@@lofileif do you maybe know what is the technology behind VG roland guitar which makes strat sound like telecaster, or changing their tunings without pitch artifacts? are they using advanced pitch shifters?
I guess you are thinking about their modeling, and no I can't say I do. There are a bunch of guys that would be a able to filly in on it over at www.vguitarforums.com/smf/
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@@lofileif Thanks!
I use a Variax with MIDIGuitar so I get the tunings that way.
Hi. Please can you tell us when MIDIGUITAR 3 will be available for sale? (In France?). And what if I buy MIDIGUITAR 2 can I update in v3 free? Thx
I don't know actually. If you are using Mac I believe you vcan get a working demo right now on the beta page. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
But if you are on any other platform, JamOrigin is working on getting there. And as far as purchasing goes, it probably needs to go through the beta testing phase on all platforms first before it is released. And yes, if you have (or buy) MIDI Guitar 2 now the update to v3 will be free! 😀👍
@@lofileif Great thanks for your answer. (I am on PC so windows 10 for the moment).
But, I will certainely buy the MIDIGuitar 2 and upgrade after. I hesitate but if you say it will be free...so nice and perfect.
Strong man. T-shirt in the snow. When do you think be ready With Midi guitar 3 for Windows?
Sometimes this is the most springtime we get around here. Better make the best of it? (Actually it isn't that cold either - the tuning on my guitar stops being reliable under 5 degrees (celsius) so it is almost certainly 7-8 now) JamOrigin has not mentioned any date yet. You can follow the JamOrigin beta page to get all the latest news. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif OK 😒 I will I follow up Great work you have done 👊👍
Thanks Nico! 🙏
I'm with JamOrigin from 2013
Early adopter! 🤝 I found it (for a second time) in 2018: Stuck to it ever since. 👍
I still use my Roland gr 55 guitar synthesizer pedal❤
Kudos! I never used mine at all. I bought it while I was still using my VG99 a lot (which I still like) but I couldn't seem to agree with the GR55. Glad to hear from someone that did though. 👍
@@lofileif Always great to hear about more options and see what's new.
Hi, any idea about the Windows Midi Guitar 3 release date ?
No, sorry. I will of course tell everyone as soon as I know, but for now I suggest everyone interested keep an eye on the JamOrigin beta page for the latest info. www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif Thank You
I hope in this version they add Automated Breath Control
It already exist. You can use the MODULATORS envelopes to connect to anything where I would use my breathcontroller,. But to get that interesting you should probably combine two envelopes, like the Pressure (aftertouch) with something else.. This will be the subject for my next video, so keep an eye out for that. 👍
@@lofileif WHAT ima try that right now!! lol the way I made it work is I have aftertouch on and I made a midi clip with some movement and nothing else in ableton and play it in a loop and send it to the channel SWAM is on 😂 I'm using the FCB 1010, gigperformer + Midi Guitar 2 and Ableton =)
@@lofileif it works but now I keep getting a stuck key in SWAM.. I think I need to program a panic button on my pedal board or something that was a fun 30sec of eeeeEEEEeeeee what the heck why??? 😂😂
Can you make an update when 3 gonna be out i will buy it Thanks!!!
If you already have a licence for MG2 the update is free! And it is a completely new software so it is not really an update either. 👍
@@lofileif No idon't have it yet..But i want to buy my icense but i'm waiting for the third version.
when comes to Windows 11?
I don't have a date, I am afraid! The best way of keeping up to date with the latest is to pop in regularly on the www.jamorigin.com/beta/
@@lofileif
Please tell Jam Origin to make the MG3 Windows & iOS progress more visible. In all honesty my one issue with not going with MG2 a few years ago was the lack of being able to tell how supported it is. IOW, is this just some developers pet project or is it serious and will be supported far into the future. I feel confident that the later is the case especially with the announcement of MG3, but it still seems like there’s not enough resources available for development.
Without getting into a Windows vs. Mac debate, I’m surprised that both platforms were not being developed simultaneously. Or even Windows taking precedence over Mac. Mac no longer holds the creative world hostage. Regardless, I’m very interested and excited to get working with MG3. In case your wondering why not get started with MG2? I have other ways to get midi guitar sounds now and would rather start fresh with what seems like a very significant upgrade in features and UI. Thanks.
@@AudioAtmos Hi! Of course, I'll pass on your very sensible request for greater visibility concerning the iOS/Wimdows status in the development process. I am taking the brunt from that lack of information anyway as every third comment I respond to concerns precisely that. Regarding the company, it IS indeed a one-man production. But you should probably not question his resolve to deliver the best possible product, as MG3 has been seven years in the making and still it is going to be free for all previous MG2 users.
The reason for starting developing and testing for Mac and porting to iOS and Windows later is his decision, and I guess it is as simple as a strategy to handle feedback and troubleshooting. I'll let him know how you feel, but out of curiosity, where have you searched for information? And where do you think it should be, to be easily found, in your opinion?
@@lofileif
Thanks! I’m subscribed to the Jam Origin forum and was following it for a while, but back about 2 months ago it seemed that the Windows version was some time out. I had signed up to be a beta tester for the Windows version, but never received any information. I have lots of irons in the fire so things like this will get sidetracked and sort of forgotten. To answer your question post on the forum. Maybe make a thread regarding platform support and the progress towards it.
Basically, I’m subscribed to your channel and when I saw this video pop up I got excited thinking it was further along and maybe a release candidate was available. I understand that you’re just a very enthusiastic user (which is great) and I don’t think or meant to imply you have influence on the company. I love what you do and follow your progress as time permits. I have been very close to pulling the trigger on MG2, but as mentioned I have other ways to do pitch to midi synth guitar right now, (Fractal Audio Systems Modeler) but I’m always looking for better ways and more options.
Thanks again!!👍
@AudioAtmos Yeah! I saw your post on the forum right now. Good to hear you have a solution you are happy with too. I just might have to take a look at that. 👍
pretty cool, there is an mpe guitar, the jamstik, but i mean it comes to almost 2000 Canadian for me to order it. not cheap. I still do not have it.
I know. I have been trying to get one (here in Sweden) for some time now, but not even music instrument retailers have considered picking these up. So I am left with the choice to take a leap of faith, and order one. But frankly, I haven't seen one video yet that would convince me of it being worth it, so I am holding out, waving for perhaps a used one to appear somewhere reasonably close. It is not like I expect it to be better than MG3 anyway, but I would like one to be able to compare for myself. 👍
@@lofileif exactly the same thing i feel, i emailed them about this as well, let's see what they reply, I need to see the jamstik being used entering midi with no video editing, their videos are not clear enough for me to purchase one. I asked them do to a lead solo mpe instrument with a few different melody lines, and then i asked them to also do a synth with chords for us in a video, raw with no fancy editing, they could upload it as a short
Good, hopefully it will make a difference. Tell them to send me a Jamstik, and I'll make sure to record something that isn't just a two second snippet on a NewYork balcony
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@@lofileif they replied and said they will do some videos of raw midi recording.. we'll see. I mean , i want the thing to work. It's been at NAAM for a few years now.. i don't think it's just BS , i think it does work good but their marketing is horrible.
@Maplefoxx-vl2ew I agree. I don’t believe it is junk either. But one problem is the reliance on influencers making most of their videos. We always get to know everthing about the allen keys and softcases and stuff, but never about the important stuff (MIDI dynamics and MPE capabilities, for instance) And I don’t know if it is because the instrument/controller can’t deliver, or if it is because the influencers that can’t use a MIDI controller. Some of them obviously know how to play guitar, but that really doesn’t isn’t enough. But, yeah, lets see what they come up with. I am still willing to give it a try if it shows up on my doorstep, (or somewhere near) 😀👍
Does it support 7 string guitars?
Not at this point! It is still in beta, and will track starting at E2 (Standard open Low E string.
@@lofileif thanx for so fast answer 💕
No problem! We will have to wait and see when it comes to the support for extended range guitars. The lower we go, the harder it gets to get the tracker to deliver great results. 😀👍
Nylon strings?
I guess you are asking: can I use a nylon string guitar with this software? You probably can, but since one of the most important factors for getting great tracking is brightnesss, I wouldn't expect any absolut stellar results. But it will cost you nothing to try when the demo is available for your platform of choice. Right now it is only Mac.
@@lofileif Yes, all other systems need "Steel strings". The question is if an contact microphone is good enough to work with it. Thank you
@fernandoscolletion Again, I don’t know. You can to try when you get the trial version. 👍
I reckon than it is not the best time to invest in MG 2 since the 3rd version will be soon released… 🤔
It is up to you! If you do, you will have two different systems to the price of one. You'll get MG2 (and MIDI Bass) now, and later MG3 for free .That goes for everyone that has purchased the "full" desktop version. Those that purchase later will get just MG3 as fara as I know. 👍
I disagree... by investing in MG2 now you get a the current production version, which is arguably better than most of the hardware options in the market. But in addition, if you use Mac you already get free early access to the beta MG3, which is fully functional and brings all of the extra dimensions Leif has been demonstrating in recent videos
@@lofileif if the purchase of MG2 grants the right to upgrade to MG3 as well then it is a no brainer… 👍..thanks for the reply 🙏 and respect for your ingenuity… I was feeling kinda limited since my main instrument is guitar but you opened many possibilities in my mind and made me think about the guitar just as an “instrument” as it should be 👍👍
I am glad if I am able to help out. 😀 Thank you!
Are you affiliated with JamOrigins? Are you the developer for MIDI Guitar 3?
I am NOT the developer, but I have had the great pleasure of being able to test versions of MG3 during the last years of its development. Jamorigin is the company developing this software. www.jamorigin.com
I tried midi guitar2, but it has latency with computer
Yep, there is latency with MG2, and it still is with MG3. But much less. It will be up to you to feel if that is still an issue for you once you get to try it. Zero latency in this software isn't even a feasible option, with the analysis of your guitar audio involved and all. 👍
Thanks for the profound information about the vast possibilities of MIDI Guitar 3 - if one wants to go down the more synth oriented rabbit hole, I totally agree with your view. I am however more traditionally oriented as sounds and playing technique are concerned and have found a combination of hardware (BOSS GM-800) and software (Gig Performer 4) to be my favorite solution. I control my patch settings in the hardware and can use all combinations of virtual instruments and plugins inside of Gig Performer - I even use it for my vocal effects and pickup guitar sound. So I guess that hard- and software aren’t mutually exclusive when playing MIDI guitar. Best wishes, Eddie
HI Ediie! Of course you are right in that there isn't any hard line between hardware and software, really. This video is more a chance to present a perspective that really hasn't been a viable alternative up until now. The idea of saving it all in one patch on a computer, everything from the MIDI triggering to the acoustic side of Amp sims and Impulse responses. But I have great respect for anyone that have found a setup they are happy with, and I am by no means claiming to have anything better. Just something else, perhaps? Keep up you great work, my friend. 🤝👍
@@lofileif Hi Leif, I absolutely agree with you - I am glad for anyone who has found a MIDI Guitar setup that works for them. I just wanted to mention a viable alternative as a hybrid approach. Keep your fine videos coming and all the best to you!🙏👍
Windows beta version? 😊
No dates mentioned anywhere on the JanOrigin page, as far as I know! 🤷♂️
Is midi guitar 3 a free upgrade from midi guitar 2. If not no point buying 2, better to wait.
MIDI Guitar 3 is free for all ”full” MIDI Guitar 2 licence holders.
Increasingly of the opinion that if Midi Guitar 3 came out only 100 years ago the Dev would have been burned at the stake for sorcery. It’s incredible
Now I suddenly feel lucky not to be a software developer myself. 😃 But I agree. jamOrigin has done a heck of a job on this! 👍
The mystery continues... is Leif the developer behind JamOrigin, or not? And if not, who is? The software is amazing, btw...
Haha! God no! The developer is a talented guy, whereas I am just a electrician moonlighting as a guitar player with special interests. I have been involved somewhat in the development process, opining on functions and smaller stuff, but if you want to get in touch with the developer himself, look for JamO on the MIDI Guitar forum. 👍jamosapien.com
@@lofileif you're also a very talented guy - in addition to your guitar playing, you have a great way of explaining things. some developers struggle with that :-)
Thank you so much! I put a lot of effort into trying to be concise! 🙏
Get to the point already, why you chose software😮💨
Check the video....it is in there.
when are we getting midi guitar 3 for windows?
I don’t know. JamOrigin has not mentioned any date yet. You can follow the JamOrigin beta page to get all the latest news. www.jamorigin.com/beta/