Ancient Salamanders have their recruit times reduced? Praise Sotek! It was always stupid how they got nerfed so much *but always kept that absurd 3 turn recruitment time!*
From the perspective of those infantry, seeing a huge stegadon with a giant yelling frog with glowing eyes charging towards you is a life changing moment.
6:15 mazda/zlaaq is such a good duellist because they are kinda bugged. they constantly get their charge bonus refreshed in melee which gives them 100+ melee attack for a good portion of the game
Nail biting battle. Well done for the win. Ulrika very impressive. But it does makes me wish, again, that Vlad could at least have a friggin an undead warhorse mount just to give him that extra mobility speed to get from one part of the battlefield to the other. Ah well. Great battle, well earned win.
@@tominieminen66 In the Von Carstein Novels it is mentioned that Vlad rides an undead horse and does not state he goes into battle on foot (except during the sieges). I can't remember if its stated if he fights on foot in the End Times series. I would just like the option. I can accept he doesn't ride a undead Dragon or a terrorgeist but surely he can have a horse?
I always use SFO, and Vlad on foot is Faster than Blood Knights once he gets his speed buff skills. Dude runs around with 86 speed, Blood Knights coming out at 76, going to like, 82 I think with their buff from the Tech But also just... Characters on horses always seem worse to me. They can't turn as faster, they get wrecked by anti-large, much easier to shoot since they're bigger than the Infantry. Sure Foot Lords gets knocked around more. But remember, they're invulnerable while they're knocked around, so they actually take far less damage Vampires are fast as fuck in the lore, and they're undead so they don't get tired. So a Vampire, is legit just as fast as a Horse in lore, its not going to tire them out regardless. I think Vlad uses a horse in the Lord just for the style of it, cuz he thinks of himself as a proper nobility and rightful empire. And riding a horse is one of the hallmarks of the nobility
@@Canadian_Zac Obviously I don't have that mod as my Vlad just can't get around the battlefield that fast and certainly is slower than even heavy cav. Maybe after the CDs arrive and all the mods are once more useless until updated I'll review what is available. I'm not saying that foot lords are bad perse I just would like the option to having him on horseback.
nice match. happy to hear ancient salamander got some love. ulrika looks great and is in the ONLY faction she should be played IMHO. and i also 200% agree katarin deserves and needs a sled-chariot at best pulled by snow leopards. even a bear is majestic, snowleopard looks more elegant especially since the unit is heavily connected with the ice-court. really think about writing the devs about this - or maybe you could since you have way more range IMHO
Excited for the Chaos Dwarves, but don't forget the Duke's Damned Nations mod, as I really enjoyed the content you made with that mod. The more believable tactics are really interesting.
Zlaaq does have 70 charge bonus so he can do a lot of damage against large units if he's able to charge but he doesn't do that well in prolonged combat.
Great video man! Ulrika definitely brings some nice utility to Kislev (and they needed it), they definitely have some teeth now even with just gaining a single hero
Ulrika: Why am I here, what do you need me for? Katarin: Because some damn fool accused you of being the best. Ulrika: Katarin! You son of a bitch. Predator handshake meme
I've noticed that "spark" effect (the one that shows up when the Hearthblades and Salamanders attack) a lot watching all the recent Chaos Dwarf stuff. Is that a new sort of visual indicator that a unit is doing fire damage? Or have I just never noticed it prior?
Wow. Ulrika has anti-large, 360 degree, fire-on-the-move missles with 180 range, and decided to go in melee and lose with 50 percent ammo remaining. I never comment on these fights, but that play was driving me crazy. The whole reason for the balance bar considering you more powerful was that missle attack, and so let's just not use it at all!!! Or maybe I'm missing something here. Anyone care to elaborate?
her missiles are not anti-large, and are frankly not great at killing single entities, especially not ones like Mazdamundi who has very high innate missile resist with Sunburst standard. Ancient Salamanders also have good missile resist. if she doesn't run into melee, Katarin gets bullied much earlier in that fight and this would not have been remotely as close of a game. She could have potentially kited hard while Katarin stays away too, but then Mazda and the Sallys move into the treeline and sit around for 10+ minutes while she tries to chunk them down with her bow. Nobody wants to see that, watch that, or play that in a friendly mp match
0:13 Wait, I though Vampirism was tolerated more in Kislev than elsewhere because most of the time they just mistake them for ice witches or something.
As much as I'd love Katarina to have her war-sled We all know it would suck Chariots always suck in this game. I've tried to use them. Had a Black Coach for the Vampire counts, spend a while battle charge into and through units of chaff like Zombies. And it ended the battle with.. like 80 kills. With constant micromanaging. While the Blood Knights charge in once, then I let them just fight as I micro the Coach. And they got 120+
I just can't understand they got the rapier the wrong way round on her model (The knuckle guard is clipping through her wrist instead of being where it should be).
I saw a youtuber doing last stand as a game mode itself with whatever race he wanted so yeah not sure if they can talk about but there are other game modes coming.
Ulrika looking a bit jenky tho.. Hopefully next patch she's fixed up.. Few strange hat glitches, her horses armour bends as it moves, and she wasn't able to ride through her own troops.. Still glad to have her on board though!
I absolutely LOVE this change to Sally. All I want now is a model reduction and compensatory damage increase for the hunting packs. I think their unit size is far too big and unwieldy; just look at how much space they occupy.
fun character, glad she's in. seems quite useful as a Shadows caster and good melee/ranged combatant. would rather have had a FLC LL like imrik or gor rok in comparison to her, because I got so much playtime out of FLC like those ones. but still think she's a worthy addition to the game
If it's of any comfort to these poor PTSD-ridden soldiers, the world will come to a violent and apocalyptic end before they need to worry about retiring with mental health crises.
More seriously, I wonder if there's a way for CA to program model/unit buffs that trigger on proximity thresholds (ex. "If X number of living models are touching Y number of models in the same unit, apply Z buff to unit stats").
she isn't anti-large, and her missile attacks would not do much to either Mazdamundi with his Sunburst standard, or to Ancient Salamanders, who have 15% innate missile resist
Mazdamundi has 25% missile resist with Sunburst Standard, and as you said 130 armor. Ulrika does not have ap majority missiles. its split between 155 base, 105 ap, and reload time of 7 seconds. Her missiles barely scratch a character like Mazda, not to mention they can miss. it was absolutely the correct play to run into melee to help out Katarin. She is not a high damage dealer vs. armored SEMs with her bow
Interesting to see Kislev hold for that long - I’ve only ever played them in campaign, but they always seemed to me to have the worst roster out there to me
i wonder what the majority opinion on "by our blood" is, as i personally really dislike it. ok, i can see it being a cool thing for tzar guard and bear cav and whatnot, but for those cheap ungol it feels like cheesy an easily exploitable get-out-of-jail card. if your opponent likely brings artillery you just pick a unit or two of light cav and yolo them into those artillery, and by the time by our blood runs out the damage is already done. imo just give them good leadership and be done with it, no reason for such chaff units to be better protected against terror than most elite units around.
Aww man... the scaly roaches won, Ulrika did a oopsie by not using her ammo first She had half of it remaining which she could have used on the salamanders before entering into melee, I guess her bloodlust took over
I wish some LL were much more powerful to better reflect the lore and also much more expensive to balance gameplay. Mazdamundi should easily chomp-chomp Ulrika and Katarin together, instead he kinda suffers against Ulrika alone ingame. Human LL and Heroes should loose against pretty much any other non-human LL and Hero on a x1 fight.
@@Manlikepegasus Because culturally she's a regular Kislev who uses regular Kislev clothes, so she should dress as other Kislev fellas dress.. Anyway, I'd like TW:WH to have different clothes for the LL to chose from..
Ancient Salamanders have their recruit times reduced? Praise Sotek! It was always stupid how they got nerfed so much *but always kept that absurd 3 turn recruitment time!*
19:37 "The ancient salamanders are going to take the battlefield"
A rare sentence that makes me very happy...
From the perspective of those infantry, seeing a huge stegadon with a giant yelling frog with glowing eyes charging towards you is a life changing moment.
More like a life ending moment
@@SerpenTyx Very true lol, I guess I meant "life changing" as in changing you from alive to dead!
6:15 mazda/zlaaq is such a good duellist because they are kinda bugged. they constantly get their charge bonus refreshed in melee which gives them 100+ melee attack for a good portion of the game
ah that actually explains a lot
Doesn't he also have double attack rate with Mazda and Zlak attacking in quick succession?
That's sound a tad strong for a bug then
Yeah, his combat is way too good for being a caster lord.
There were so many moments this battle could've swung either way, an awesome fight to be sure! that finish was really down to the wire for both sides
Love your battle videos my guy. Looking forward to bigger cinematic battles with the chaos dwarfs.
Nail biting battle. Well done for the win. Ulrika very impressive. But it does makes me wish, again, that Vlad could at least have a friggin an undead warhorse mount just to give him that extra mobility speed to get from one part of the battlefield to the other. Ah well. Great battle, well earned win.
Vampires should not even need horses in the first place, they should probably be faster on foot xD
@@tominieminen66 In the Von Carstein Novels it is mentioned that Vlad rides an undead horse and does not state he goes into battle on foot (except during the sieges). I can't remember if its stated if he fights on foot in the End Times series. I would just like the option. I can accept he doesn't ride a undead Dragon or a terrorgeist but surely he can have a horse?
I always use SFO, and Vlad on foot is Faster than Blood Knights once he gets his speed buff skills.
Dude runs around with 86 speed, Blood Knights coming out at 76, going to like, 82 I think with their buff from the Tech
But also just... Characters on horses always seem worse to me.
They can't turn as faster, they get wrecked by anti-large, much easier to shoot since they're bigger than the Infantry.
Sure Foot Lords gets knocked around more.
But remember, they're invulnerable while they're knocked around, so they actually take far less damage
Vampires are fast as fuck in the lore, and they're undead so they don't get tired.
So a Vampire, is legit just as fast as a Horse in lore, its not going to tire them out regardless.
I think Vlad uses a horse in the Lord just for the style of it, cuz he thinks of himself as a proper nobility and rightful empire. And riding a horse is one of the hallmarks of the nobility
@@Canadian_Zac Obviously I don't have that mod as my Vlad just can't get around the battlefield that fast and certainly is slower than even heavy cav. Maybe after the CDs arrive and all the mods are once more useless until updated I'll review what is available. I'm not saying that foot lords are bad perse I just would like the option to having him on horseback.
Vlad Von Carstein needs no horse, for he already mounts Isabella 😂
Ulrika popping off amazingly during her debut. Great battle
nice match. happy to hear ancient salamander got some love. ulrika looks great and is in the ONLY faction she should be played IMHO. and i also 200% agree katarin deserves and needs a sled-chariot at best pulled by snow leopards. even a bear is majestic, snowleopard looks more elegant especially since the unit is heavily connected with the ice-court. really think about writing the devs about this - or maybe you could since you have way more range IMHO
iirc her Sled is pulled by like Ice Reindeer or Elk, but im not 100% sure on that
@@milkandcookiesTW that would be awesome too! just something more... elegant but ofc still badass
Excited for the Chaos Dwarves, but don't forget the Duke's Damned Nations mod, as I really enjoyed the content you made with that mod. The more believable tactics are really interesting.
I want krell to be a legendary hero also, similar to how Vlad and Izzy function
Yeah. He seems like a relic of the past currently.
I must say, I am loving all the battles between you and Javi (HDS). I have been watching them in both your channels and they are a blast
By our Blood! This was a really cool battle. Thanks for these new unit land battles Indy, they've been amazing!
Zlaaq does have 70 charge bonus so he can do a lot of damage against large units if he's able to charge but he doesn't do that well in prolonged combat.
Great video man! Ulrika definitely brings some nice utility to Kislev (and they needed it), they definitely have some teeth now even with just gaining a single hero
Ulrika: Why am I here, what do you need me for?
Katarin: Because some damn fool accused you of being the best.
Ulrika: Katarin! You son of a bitch.
Predator handshake meme
An amazing and close fight. Always love seeing Kislev games.
I've noticed that "spark" effect (the one that shows up when the Hearthblades and Salamanders attack) a lot watching all the recent Chaos Dwarf stuff. Is that a new sort of visual indicator that a unit is doing fire damage? Or have I just never noticed it prior?
Fire effects has been massively improved in 3.0, so most likely, it's a new fancy thing, yes.
Amazing battle! Well played by both.
That was an amazing fight, shows that Ulrika is very powerful and shows that the salamanders still got some teeth.
Ancient Sallys are my favorite Lizardmen unit
Very close battle, nicely played!
When do we actually get to se the new patch notes seems like there’s loads off decent sized changes
patch notes are always 1 day before the update goes live I believe
DJ Cucumber Slice...what a game that was.
Wow. Ulrika has anti-large, 360 degree, fire-on-the-move missles with 180 range, and decided to go in melee and lose with 50 percent ammo remaining.
I never comment on these fights, but that play was driving me crazy. The whole reason for the balance bar considering you more powerful was that missle attack, and so let's just not use it at all!!!
Or maybe I'm missing something here. Anyone care to elaborate?
her missiles are not anti-large, and are frankly not great at killing single entities, especially not ones like Mazdamundi who has very high innate missile resist with Sunburst standard. Ancient Salamanders also have good missile resist. if she doesn't run into melee, Katarin gets bullied much earlier in that fight and this would not have been remotely as close of a game. She could have potentially kited hard while Katarin stays away too, but then Mazda and the Sallys move into the treeline and sit around for 10+ minutes while she tries to chunk them down with her bow. Nobody wants to see that, watch that, or play that in a friendly mp match
I suspect that bear is a Ursus Maritimus Tyrannus.
F # CK Yea! way to go Lizardmen!
Yesss Salamander buff much needed, Indy my man try getting CA to fix bloody Gotrek whilst they are at it
Ancient salamanders were extremely good since immortal empires dropped. All flame damage is better in wh3. Hopefully they didn’t over buff them.
They're morale has been really high ever since GW dropped those sick new models.
They've still been pretty mediocre in multi-player, I think they needed the buff.
0:13 Wait, I though Vampirism was tolerated more in Kislev than elsewhere because most of the time they just mistake them for ice witches or something.
As much as I'd love Katarina to have her war-sled
We all know it would suck
Chariots always suck in this game.
I've tried to use them. Had a Black Coach for the Vampire counts, spend a while battle charge into and through units of chaff like Zombies.
And it ended the battle with.. like 80 kills.
With constant micromanaging.
While the Blood Knights charge in once, then I let them just fight as I micro the Coach.
And they got 120+
Ulrikas horse has red vampire eyes as well
Great battle!
I just can't understand they got the rapier the wrong way round on her model (The knuckle guard is clipping through her wrist instead of being where it should be).
Wow, what a great battle
I am blessed with the nurgle stink
Ulrika pulling a JoJo pose at 8:28
Damn this was a good one!
what an exciting end game!
Yeah more Kislev Indy, nice one
hey Milk, could you please tell us if ragdolls are only in the mirror of madness game mode, or if they're added to immortal empires.
I saw a youtuber doing last stand as a game mode itself with whatever race he wanted so yeah not sure if they can talk about but there are other game modes coming.
i wished they modeled her after the cover art of her 3rd book tbh
8:46 - Ulrika sporting that Sunglasses/Fake mustache combo we all know and love
Love using these guys as an anti-elite infantry wincon on a cheap stack of skinks in campaign
There's nothing less fun than "by our blood" on chaff units.
Ulrika looking a bit jenky tho.. Hopefully next patch she's fixed up.. Few strange hat glitches, her horses armour bends as it moves, and she wasn't able to ride through her own troops.. Still glad to have her on board though!
By our vlood should have been called "last gasp".
I absolutely LOVE this change to Sally. All I want now is a model reduction and compensatory damage increase for the hunting packs. I think their unit size is far too big and unwieldy; just look at how much space they occupy.
What do you think about Ulrika overall?
fun character, glad she's in. seems quite useful as a Shadows caster and good melee/ranged combatant. would rather have had a FLC LL like imrik or gor rok in comparison to her, because I got so much playtime out of FLC like those ones. but still think she's a worthy addition to the game
Cracker battle and love the Sally buffs
S K I N K LEGION!
love when you use monster hunter music
If it's of any comfort to these poor PTSD-ridden soldiers, the world will come to a violent and apocalyptic end before they need to worry about retiring with mental health crises.
More seriously, I wonder if there's a way for CA to program model/unit buffs that trigger on proximity thresholds (ex. "If X number of living models are touching Y number of models in the same unit, apply Z buff to unit stats").
Is Kislev even part of the Great Plan? Yeah, you know the answer...
That was an intereting finale. Im pretty sure salamaders just kinda staggered Ulrika to death - she can't seem to do any real big damage...
What makes perfect sense, btw
@@Ariranhaa A vampire who has been trained in combat since young not doing damage makes sense? xD
Ulrika's bloodlust took over, she still had half of her arrows in her quiver :D
A hunter should only close in to finish the fallen prey
@@tominieminen66 Against 2x 15m fire-breathing ancient predator lizards? Yeah, perfect sense :)
@@Ariranhaa The disrespect towards the oversized mosquitoes is insane xD
İf only he used ulrika as she meant to be used as a anti large horse archer which is exaclty what kislev lacks in this battle.
she isn't anti-large, and her missile attacks would not do much to either Mazdamundi with his Sunburst standard, or to Ancient Salamanders, who have 15% innate missile resist
@@milkandcookiesTW @milkandcookiesTW Her missles were armor piercing so she would do higher damage at least to mazda mundi who has 130 armor.
Mazdamundi has 25% missile resist with Sunburst Standard, and as you said 130 armor. Ulrika does not have ap majority missiles. its split between 155 base, 105 ap, and reload time of 7 seconds. Her missiles barely scratch a character like Mazda, not to mention they can miss. it was absolutely the correct play to run into melee to help out Katarin. She is not a high damage dealer vs. armored SEMs with her bow
Oh god I did misread Ulrikas missle damage... Sorry
Interesting to see Kislev hold for that long - I’ve only ever played them in campaign, but they always seemed to me to have the worst roster out there to me
Anyone else think them sallies did a shit load of friendly fire?
they had a few nasty ff shots. but its skinks, they cost 300 gold. not a huge deal yes yes
i wonder what the majority opinion on "by our blood" is, as i personally really dislike it. ok, i can see it being a cool thing for tzar guard and bear cav and whatnot, but for those cheap ungol it feels like cheesy an easily exploitable get-out-of-jail card. if your opponent likely brings artillery you just pick a unit or two of light cav and yolo them into those artillery, and by the time by our blood runs out the damage is already done. imo just give them good leadership and be done with it, no reason for such chaff units to be better protected against terror than most elite units around.
Really wish Katerine didn't have a bear, a horse and a sled would have been better, everyone having a bear is just kinda lame.
Russia in games: losing
Russia IRL: losing
Aww man... the scaly roaches won, Ulrika did a oopsie by not using her ammo first
She had half of it remaining which she could have used on the salamanders before entering into melee, I guess her bloodlust took over
does anyone else watch these vids and try to come up with lore justification for why these guys are fighting on these maps?
I wish some LL were much more powerful to better reflect the lore and also much more expensive to balance gameplay. Mazdamundi should easily chomp-chomp Ulrika and Katarin together, instead he kinda suffers against Ulrika alone ingame. Human LL and Heroes should loose against pretty much any other non-human LL and Hero on a x1 fight.
I wish CA would make an earlier access for those who already bought it
MP hating ancient salamander gang should be now happy lol
"muh sally no more OP cuz of MP :("
Idiot. Nobody on the MP scenes ever told CA to increase their recruiting time in campaign, reducing their splash attack would have been fine for mp
MP hating-hating ancient salamander gang should be sad now lol
"giant fire breafing mystical monsta shoulda be weak :("
watching the one ancient salamander that chased the broken infantry for like 3 minutes was about 1 minute 45 seconds too long
Just give her a horse without these weird ICE spikey Things
Empire confed mechanics are a dumpster fire.
Quick! Give them a flc hero.
She looks generic for me. I wish she had her black outfit from her cover arts and official art work
She's just a regular human who was bitten by a vampire, man. She uses normal human clothes and stuff
@@Ariranhaauh yeah, so why not use her awesome og design from her art and cover art?
@@Manlikepegasus Because culturally she's a regular Kislev who uses regular Kislev clothes, so she should dress as other Kislev fellas dress.. Anyway, I'd like TW:WH to have different clothes for the LL to chose from..
@@Ariranhaa what? so you saying her official art from her official novels are not proper to the character?
@@Manlikepegasus Me? Not me, CA. Turn your anger against them
CANT WAAIT FOR THAT NERF ON THAT FLC HERO