I can't believe there is only 11 comments. This is the best vcarve inlay video I have found. Thank you! This will add something special to my cutting board project.
I did this exact same cut with your 321 method, IDC method of .11/.09/.02 etc but the male part always looses definition on the tail feathers (lower). I have used my 90 and 60 vbits and all leave the image too thin to hold up. Cannit be a feed issue? I am using walnut and maple so its not loose grain. Final note is that my image is only 2 inches so wondering if its just too small and I need to go to 15° or smaller bits. Your thoughts?
Hello... and thanks for the comment. I might suggest yo have a look at this video... ua-cam.com/video/yUaSsL4F6_E/v-deo.html It might help a bit to explain how things work. there are a lot of places things could fail... but in my experience it most often is fine raised "fingers" of material or a dull bit (tearing the plugs detail). Yes,... it also could be the size of your part. This may require a few test custs to get everyhing worked out. Once you have it the process is very repeatable... :)
Hello. I used this very same piece of clipart in 2011 to make an inlay occasional table top with Vectric VCarve Pro. I also used a 90° Vee bit to do the milling. One point to bear in mind is that Vee bits do not come to a complete point. Just turn it sideways and you will see that the cutting part has a definite width. If this were not so, it would not be possible to use it to mill some of the flat areas, since you can not mill a flat with a zero dimension point. Vectric knows about this with Vee bits and assumes a certain flat width at the pointy end. Have a look at the image of the Engraving bits and they actually specify a particular dimension for the flat at the pointy end. I use Engraving bits and actually modify them by grinding different flat dimensions to suit different depths and materials. When using the Vectric engraving toolpath, the geometry is quite complex since the outer edge of the tool has to keep inline with the toolpath as it descends into the material. When doing inlays, the flat at the end becomes of major importance.
What problems does this cause and how do you solve them? I guess I don't understand how the flat becomes important to Vectric. Yes, I get your point about clearing but if it's a 15 degree vee bit, it shouldn't affect the actual vs planned toolpath correct? Having a tip just simply means it's not cutting as deep as it thinks it is, but if you have glue space this should hopefully be counteracted?
I can't get this to work. When I cut the male piece with Vcarve tool the v bit path only allows the bit to cut as close as the cones outside diameter making the male piece to large t fit in the female piece. If I run a profile path with the V bit it will cut it like it should but the I need to make a pocket path with a ball tip and end mill that still isn't as close as it should be because of the taper of the ball tip. Any suggestions
Hi Kaleo. Unfortunately our UA-cam channel is not a support portal. For help with your question, we recommend visiting the Vectric support site or contacting our support team. Details can be found in the description of this tutorial.
Kaleo, any luck figuring this out? I just tried this tonight for the first time and the male part only made it about halfway into the female part. Thank you!
Philip Mark did you ever figure it out? I too just did this tutorial and the make part only went in half way. I've searched the internet for hours with no luck. Maybe you've solved it now and can share?
yes I did make one successful inlay but I can't remember. I did it not to long after my first posted 3 years ago. I'll look back through my files on that project and post if I can remember. I do know that I made the inlay a little too shallow so it looked good on top but there was space between the bottom on the inlay and the bottom of the pocket. I did't tell the guy glueing it that I made a gap so he could put glue. He thought it would push it up so it ended up having a hallow sound when you tap it But looked really good.
Chad Grenier thats the idea it does not have to go all the way inside ..you just apply good amount of glue on the edges and after it drys out cut it .... dont worry about not reaching the bottom it will hang ok
Hi Ciaran, Glad you enjoyed the video! A few people on the Vectric Forum have created inlays with Mother of Pearl, our advice is to throw out a question on there to see how other users got on with it? I hope this helps and good luck with your pearl inlays we'd love to see them! :)
17:34 "We've now got a matching inlay that will fit inside". Almost, but not perfect fit. It has to do with the flat depth limitation. It's actually the female part that's the problem. V-Bit is incapable of giving you a flat surface, and endmill is incapable of reaching all surface. I recommend adding a little bit of tolerance by slightly sanding the top of the male part to account for the imperfections of the female part
Hey there, please don't hesitate to contact our support team with your file and they can look into this for you. You can reach them on support@vectric.com - hope this helps, have a great day!
In the tutorial, the pocket is 0.2 inches and when the inlay is cut, the start depth is changed to 0.1 and the depth is cut to 0.1. I assume this is for the glue pocket. The demo says to divide the distance in 2 (0.1 + 0.1). What if the depth of the pocket is 0.25 inches. Should the start depth be 0.1 and the depth be 0.15 or should the distance be divided equally (0.125 each) I do not have my own cnc router and have to pay to use it so less experimenting is best.
Hi... Iv'e just bought an Xcarve 500... It should be delivered by the end of this month... I'm retired, and have never used a cnc machine before... I have to admit, I'm struggling with learning the software... I'm currently playing around with, "Inventables EASEL" HELP... lol Frank...
Hey Frank! How exciting, and welcome to the new world of CNC! In the time before your machine arrives take a look at our tutorials - we recommend starting with the getting started videos to give you a broad overview of a typical project, and then you can work your way through each topic (e.g. drawing, 2d toolpaths etc) for myself and a lot of other users I found it beneficial to follow along with the videos too :) here is a link to our training material page to get you started support.vectric.com/training-material good luck :) ~ Beki
I can't believe there is only 11 comments. This is the best vcarve inlay video I have found. Thank you! This will add something special to my cutting board project.
New to CNC
Just purchased vertical vcarve pro
This is pure gold
We’ll explained
A great speed and right level of detail
Thank you for your detail
Thanks William!
This is the video I've been looking for, I've just purchased the full version as a result. Thank you
If only all tutorials were of this superb standard.
Thank you Steve!
Thank you for such a clear and concise explanation on how to do this!
Glad it was helpful and thank you for the kind comment!
I did this exact same cut with your 321 method, IDC method of .11/.09/.02 etc but the male part always looses definition on the tail feathers (lower). I have used my 90 and 60 vbits and all leave the image too thin to hold up. Cannit be a feed issue? I am using walnut and maple so its not loose grain.
Final note is that my image is only 2 inches so wondering if its just too small and I need to go to 15° or smaller bits.
Your thoughts?
Hello... and thanks for the comment. I might suggest yo have a look at this video... ua-cam.com/video/yUaSsL4F6_E/v-deo.html It might help a bit to explain how things work. there are a lot of places things could fail... but in my experience it most often is fine raised "fingers" of material or a dull bit (tearing the plugs detail). Yes,... it also could be the size of your part. This may require a few test custs to get everyhing worked out. Once you have it the process is very repeatable... :)
Hello. I used this very same piece of clipart in 2011 to make an inlay occasional table top with Vectric VCarve Pro. I also used a 90° Vee bit to do the milling. One point to bear in mind is that Vee bits do not come to a complete point. Just turn it sideways and you will see that the cutting part has a definite width. If this were not so, it would not be possible to use it to mill some of the flat areas, since you can not mill a flat with a zero dimension point. Vectric knows about this with Vee bits and assumes a certain flat width at the pointy end. Have a look at the image of the Engraving bits and they actually specify a particular dimension for the flat at the pointy end. I use Engraving bits and actually modify them by grinding different flat dimensions to suit different depths and materials.
When using the Vectric engraving toolpath, the geometry is quite complex since the outer edge of the tool has to keep inline with the toolpath as it descends into the material. When doing inlays, the flat at the end becomes of major importance.
What problems does this cause and how do you solve them? I guess I don't understand how the flat becomes important to Vectric. Yes, I get your point about clearing but if it's a 15 degree vee bit, it shouldn't affect the actual vs planned toolpath correct? Having a tip just simply means it's not cutting as deep as it thinks it is, but if you have glue space this should hopefully be counteracted?
I can't get this to work. When I cut the male piece with Vcarve tool the v bit path only allows the bit to cut as close as the cones outside diameter making the male piece to large t fit in the female piece. If I run a profile path with the V bit it will cut it like it should but the I need to make a pocket path with a ball tip and end mill that still isn't as close as it should be because of the taper of the ball tip. Any suggestions
Hi Kaleo. Unfortunately our UA-cam channel is not a support portal.
For help with your question, we recommend visiting the Vectric support site or contacting our support team. Details can be found in the description of this tutorial.
Kaleo, any luck figuring this out? I just tried this tonight for the first time and the male part only made it about halfway into the female part. Thank you!
Philip Mark did you ever figure it out? I too just did this tutorial and the make part only went in half way. I've searched the internet for hours with no luck. Maybe you've solved it now and can share?
yes I did make one successful inlay but I can't remember. I did it not to long after my first posted 3 years ago. I'll look back through my files on that project and post if I can remember. I do know that I made the inlay a little too shallow so it looked good on top but there was space between the bottom on the inlay and the bottom of the pocket. I did't tell the guy glueing it that I made a gap so he could put glue. He thought it would push it up so it ended up having a hallow sound when you tap it But looked really good.
Chad Grenier thats the idea it does not have to go all the way inside ..you just apply good amount of glue on the edges and after it drys out cut it .... dont worry about not reaching the bottom it will hang ok
this video helped me to the last step to make a decent inlay
Thanks a lot
Inlay settings start at 9:45 - the rest is basic set up...how to import a picture etc.
Perfect. Just what I was looking for. Do you have any suggestion for inserting mother of pearl as the inlay instead of a timber plug?
Hi Ciaran, Glad you enjoyed the video! A few people on the Vectric Forum have created inlays with Mother of Pearl, our advice is to throw out a question on there to see how other users got on with it? I hope this helps and good luck with your pearl inlays we'd love to see them! :)
De todos que vi, seu vídeo foi o que mais me orientou e aprendi de primeira.
17:34 "We've now got a matching inlay that will fit inside". Almost, but not perfect fit. It has to do with the flat depth limitation. It's actually the female part that's the problem. V-Bit is incapable of giving you a flat surface, and endmill is incapable of reaching all surface. I recommend adding a little bit of tolerance by slightly sanding the top of the male part to account for the imperfections of the female part
How do you cut .2 with a .125 bit with breaking.
Please let me know router speed ,feed rate and plunge rate. Thanks
Why my inlays are bigger?it cannot fit.way too big.
Hey there, please don't hesitate to contact our support team with your file and they can look into this for you. You can reach them on support@vectric.com - hope this helps, have a great day!
Instead of importing an image and creating a vector outline I can just import vectors right?
I do my vectors in inkscape , save as PDF and import in vectric
In the tutorial, the pocket is 0.2 inches and when the inlay is cut, the start depth is changed to 0.1 and the depth is cut to 0.1. I assume this is for the glue pocket. The demo says to divide the distance in 2 (0.1 + 0.1). What if the depth of the pocket is 0.25 inches. Should the start depth be 0.1 and the depth be 0.15 or should the distance be divided equally (0.125 each)
I do not have my own cnc router and have to pay to use it so less experimenting is best.
Great explanation, thanks.
Great information, thanks!
Hi... Iv'e just bought an Xcarve 500...
It should be delivered by the end of this month...
I'm retired, and have never used a cnc machine before...
I have to admit, I'm struggling with learning the software...
I'm currently playing around with, "Inventables EASEL"
HELP... lol
Frank...
Hey Frank! How exciting, and welcome to the new world of CNC! In the time before your machine arrives take a look at our tutorials - we recommend starting with the getting started videos to give you a broad overview of a typical project, and then you can work your way through each topic (e.g. drawing, 2d toolpaths etc) for myself and a lot of other users I found it beneficial to follow along with the videos too :) here is a link to our training material page to get you started support.vectric.com/training-material good luck :) ~ Beki
Thanks for the prompt response guys... much appreciated..
Will do...
Frank...
No Problem! :) ~ Beki
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