Are disc brakes better on a Willys jeep?
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2023
- Disc vs drum…. The age old debate. We have the results! Are disc brakes a worthwhile upgrade on your Cj2A Cj3a cj3b cj5 Willys mb ford gpw.
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Really would like to see a 11in drum brake test, but this was really interesting, thanks for sharing!
Fwiw when I swapped to 11" front drums only, it felt about like it almost doubled the braking power. Would just about lock up the front tires on dry pavement. Well worth the swap IMHO but for off-roading, another huge advantage with discs is they work when wet after a creek crossing. Drums do not until they dry out.
Good testing!! Results speak volumes!! It's up to the folks,of what they want!!
Great job..
Teach!
👍🧙♂️🐺!!!
Beautiful Jeep's dad and father haveing fun god bless
Honestly the only reason I switched to disc in the front was because I drove through a deep puddle with the drums. I like stopping when I push the peddle LOL! Great Video
Yeah from a maintenance point the disc brakes are a huge selling point for me. The fact that they stop better is a bonus
Very cool! Thanks for showing the actual performance tests. Decisions, decisions..... LOL.
This test showed me that I really need to install discs on my CJ3B. My drum brakes are just OK but not great. Awesome video. Thanks, RT
Thanks! Yes you won’t regret a disc swap!
@@redeyecafegarage7484 How difficult is a disc brake swap? I have a literally only changed my starter motor and the oil in my DJ-3A.
@@matthewdeal7791 I l would give it a 6 out of 10. Not difficult but definitely lots of steps and since there’s a high safety risk if you do something wrong it’s not exactly for beginners. But if done properly with the right supervision it’s a great project to learn important skills
Awesome comparison video 👍👍. I need to get my wheel cylinders replaced now
Thanks for making this video. Years ago I swapped front discs from a '74 Scout Dana 30 onto the front of my '2A. Not a direct bolt on but not that hard to fabricate. I used the dual chamber master cylinder off a '77 Mercury monarch mounted where the stock one had been. No proportioning valve and stock rear drums. I love the setup but have lately been wondering if I should install a proportioning valve and go to bigger rear drums. Based on this video I think I should leave well enough alone.
Excellent! It’s totally up to you but it sounds like it’s working good for ya. Thanks for watching
70s good for a cj2a was 11 inch drums all positions, with a stock master
great work. awesome video .
safety wise disc brakes are pretty good. impressive results
Thanks!
You can see why front disc rear drum was used for so long , plus you get a better handbreak , as most 4 wheel discs still run a drum handbreak
Nice test Seth, as Arte Johnson used to say on Laugh-In "Very Interesting". At least the neighbors didn't call the cops.
It’s not illegal to drive the speed limit and then stop 😆
@@redeyecafegarage7484 Of course, just being silly.
@@geoffreyclark2805 Thankfully I think my neighbors are used to my shenanigans 😆
Thanks for that it really helps me out
Happy to help
Wow, so just stick with the stock master and put a proportioning valve in. interesting. I figured you definitely needed a dual
Wow!! Great information/content!!!!
😊thanks for watching!
Jeep muito top meu amigo
Those are 3 good looking Jeeps
Thank you! We’ve put a lot of work into them over the years. 👍
Nice test Seth. Thanks for doing it. I was thinking. Even though the disk brakes “lock up” quicker, that’s not necessarily a good thing is it? I’d love to see how the 9” drum brakes compare to a modern wrangler or other Jeep with anti-lock brakes. What are your thoughts?
Yeah it would be interesting to see how Jeeps with anti-lock brakes stack up against my Jeeps. I think in this test there wouldn’t be much difference. But I bet at 50 or 60mph the newer jeep with power brakes and anti-lock might shine. But it’s all just speculation without some data. Thanks for watching.
I have 1943 MB Willis officers, radio jeep all original, is the Marine Corps jeep with the foreign kit on it do they make a plastic gas tank for you the regular gas with alcohol in it, attract water and make it rust. If you know where I get a plastic one please let me know.
I run steel tanks in all my builds and have no issues with rust. You can always throw some 2 stroke oil in occasionally if you’re worried about rust. I do not like the plastic tanks. The leak and don’t fit correctly.
With discs on the front only, did you install a proportioning valve or just remove the check valve from the factory master cylinder? did the check valve get replaced with anything else?
For disc up front only you must remove the residual valve. Proportioning valve is optional. I’ve gone with and without. IMO it doesn’t make much difference at all. But people will literally lose their minds arguing with you over this. I’ve gotten actual treats of violence emailed to me over this topic. It’s absolutely ridiculous 😆 I just share my person experience from 20 years of jeeping& tens of thousands of miles but people that never even finish their Jeeps want to fight me haha! At the end of the day you do what feels right for you and if you’re not sure seek out a professional. Lol…
Quite the difference. Is your dad gonna do the disc brake upgrade now?
I think he’s happy with disc up front and drum in the back. And honestly they difference is so close I would only do disc rear for ease of maintenance. 👍
That was impressive with discs all round, but how much would a full conversion cost ?
Here’s the front conversion kit. The rear disc brakes I run are a home made setup. A direct kit isn’t available. But as you can see front disc is more than effective. 👍 be sure to use code Redeyegarage10 any time you order anything from Kaiser Willy’s! Thanks for watching! www.kaiserwillys.com/products/complete-front-disc-brake-conversion-kit-fits-41-71-jeep-willys/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI15mO0-mVgAMV2-zjBx0bTAucEAQYASABEgKUi_D_BwE
@@redeyecafegarage7484 I posted this on a Facebook page, caused a lot of controversy
Unfortunately I can’t use kaiser Willy, they are in the US, shipping would be extortionate
I have 11 inch drums . just as good as discs
Ease of Maintenance and performance in mud and mater is where discs will surpass of 11” drums
Uh, real story, where'd you get that flag of your jeep? I want a flag of my jeep.
Haha pretty slick isn’t it! redeyecafemoto.com/products/willys-banner
My ‘48 2a has discs all-round. Much better performance and reliability.
What disc brakes are you using?
Kaiser Willys disc conversion kit.
Good morning buddy how are ya? Fantastic test. Thanks for sharing. Oh question, is your Dads cab homemade or was that something that could of been bought long ago?
I was was just thinking about putting a roxor Dana 44 with discs on my 69 cj5. Have a great day thanks for sharing God bless you and yours.
@@heyyoubuddy6749 hi! Dads jeep has an old Sears hardtop on it. Thanks for watching.
That's going to be a great swap IMHO.
nobody in this day and age should run a single circuit master cylinder for any reason. you're one leak away from a terrible accident.
full size jeep/chevy caliper and brackets with 78 cj7 rotors 11x2" rear drums, dual circuit master, combination valve and remote booster would be ideal.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a single line master for these old Jeeps.
@@redeyecafegarage7484 there's something seriously wrong with a single circuit master cylinder on any vehicle.
all it takes is one brake line, brake hose, seal or pressure switch to fail and you have no brakes apart from the park brake
with a dual circuit master if a hose, line,seal or switch fails you still have brakes on two wheels and the park brake.
Hold on, these Jeeps don't all weight the same - so the results will vary even with the same friction and stopping power...
lol… calm down and take a deep breath they all weigh within 1 friend of eachother. Dont overcomplicate this.
My ‘48 2a has discs all-round. Much better performance and reliability.