I live in Connecticut and the storms we just had literally destroyed two towns, whole infrastructure gone demolished, bridges and roads completely washed away. 12 inches of rain in four hours and dams could not hold the water back. Never seen anything like it.
Yep probably, I think it was at least in 2020 when the Bush and Cheney oil regime took over the US government, they did NOTHING to help and actually caused a huge increase in carbon emissions due to their illegal wars in Iraqistan 😡
You don't know how sad it makes me. I'm still an organic hippie at 77. I remember the political changes that tried to wipe out everything we said about fossil fuel and war and chemicals in the ground way back then. And it was right after someone murdered our president. . . .MLK. . .RFK. . .Malcom. . .Kent State. Free Huey Newton! We should have won back then, but I suppose we had to repeat the bad stuff like some sort of concentric circles or a spiral. And Nixon wasn't a crook? It was a very dark era caused by those who could not stand the light.
I totally agree with what so many people have commented on. We have already passed tipping points. The ship has left the port. We had three events all considered thousand year storms in South Florida in a period of 14 months.. I have never seen anything like it and I have lived here 24 years which of course is a small period of time in the grand scheme of things. However, it is now our rainy season and we’re not getting rain. We have had 37 days which is the record of heat alerts and to have that in South Florida is not easy to do . Everything is messed up. The climate will continue to destabilize. I don’t talk about this to anyone because people look at me like I’m from Jupiter. As far as I see things we’re done.
I would enthusiastically encourage anyone who follows the Climate Emergency Forum to also tune in to Nate Hagen's "Great Simplification" podcast. For several years he has been featuring in- depth discussions with deeply-credentialed, international experts on every field of human endeavor and ecological pertinence. It is a virtual college-level "classroom" of ecological and sociological awareness. It is truly "adult education" at its finest.
Been watching Nate for years. Love watching him change over the years. I wondered if it was possible for a bean counter, but he's done it!! Change, adaptation is the most important quality we can develop, according the Yuval Harari.
Thank you for providing up to date information on the situation and presenting reality as it is. Several interacting control loops makes an extremely complex system making it almost, if not impossible to predict how stability will be reached. Clearly, the climate extremes being reported indicate a very unstable system. Some countries, like Finland, have vast underground facilities which may be put to good use, although large-scale subterranean agriculture is going to be a challenge.
With those extreme high SSTs still persisting even after El Nino has faded could just mean weve crossed a major tipping point in the ocean system and Ocean Heat is now constantly released into the atmosphere (at an ever increasing rate). I mean thats what those high SSTs during El Nino are, warm water moves from a couple of thousand meters down to the sea surface and is released into the atmosphere.
looming.... exponentials are occurring now. Carbon sink of the oceans is full up. permafrost is thawing out, polar ice melting, AMOC slowing down... and aerosol effect... It amazes me that our global supply chain of corn snacks and mass produced products keeps the local grocery stores stocked... when that fails? woooah Nellie! its gonna get ugly
remember when they took down the sign at glacier national park that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 but were still there? they are still there today. Remember when they said the north pole would be ice free by 2014? it isn't
eh don't sweat it. we all are doooooomed from the moment of conception... I for one, am ASTOUNDED to be self aware at such a critical.point in our evolution. What a show! are you not entertained? entropy is inevitable embrace it.
check check and checkity check! Im as small as any peepfrog or bug can be... I'm fine with it... no moral self flagellatin' here. It doesn't help... I just woke up one day and found myself born on a middle aged planet at the terminal stage of a very clever species.. It's one Helluva sight!
did you know that methane oxidises readily in the air when exposed to UV? it's half life in the air is about 3 days, if it could build up it already would have.
Thanks Peter and Paul. There's an excellent article in The Conversation today from Exeter University on the Paris Agreement and The total urgency to stop burning fossil fuels. Very important. Paul you might want to comment on your channel on the article. Thanks everyone
And now some people in high places are talking about nuclear strikes, limited of course, so there may be many things that will contribute to our demise. I do believe that as climate change causes mass migration, violence in many forms will follow.
Ive been ranting about nuclear war for years and accusing the mainstream media of cheering it on, they act like its to big to happen and we can push right up to the edge with no consequences, don't know if they are fools or its been in the plans for depopulation from the start
The rate of change has been non-linear for a long time already. For at least twenty years when the rate of change was estimated the results were clear the rate of change was exponential meaning going faster and faster and faster.
It seems pretty clear to me the canoe has passed its tipping point. Reduction of shipping aerosols was the extra oomph that sped it up. I mean, we all know all this is going to get worse essentially forever in human terms.
With our current emissions trend & (irreversible?) self-reinforcing feedbacks, we are not gonna prevent the tipping points ahead. So we just don't know the timescale for when one or other of their sudden dramatic effects will kick in.. Clearly in our current scenario, taking full account of risk management & precautionary principles, geoengineering options should rapidly be properly scientifically tried & tested, because we may be forced to implement their use (whether we like it or not) if pitched into a runaway greenhouse-hothouse effect.
We've actually been close to 'tipping points' since about 1980. The USA came to it late, is all. I remember the ramblings in the UK since my son was born (1980) Happily, I haven't been worrying for 40 years.
1.48…😐 We are in a train with 8 billion+ people. And we are trying to stop, an inch… away… from the edge.😐 my leaders are playing with the lives of this world…
It's too bad that decades back societies refused to approach the taboo subject of population control. I shudder to hear people state almost with pride that they had 7 children and now have 20 grandchildren. Here's what should be done. Even now there's a possibility of improving the situation on planet earth. 2 children limit, no more. Tax breaks for people who comply. High taxes for those who don't. A lottery that can be entered for people who choose to-allowing a few winners to have up to 4 children. Free birth control available in all countries. And penalties everywhere for those having more than 2 children. In this age it has been selfish and hurtful to the entire earth to mindlessly have unlimited numbers of descendants.
@@christinechandler1662 Governments around the world are boosting guys like Musk up. I saw him give a speech to a huge crowd including govt in Italy where he preached repeatedly that population needs to be boosted WAY up or we (he) won’t have enough workers in the next generation. US is biggest producer of greenhouse gasses. Polls currently show 47% of voting Americans are STILL planing to vote for drumpf. As far as I know Harris doesn’t talk about human caused climate change either. The green party is polling at 0%. Time for us to prepare as much as possible on a personal level.
@@christinechandler1662 You may already be aware, but the human population could go to 0 tomorrow and the planet would still heat up for at least 1000 years due to all the CO2 already present in the atmosphere. On the flip side, I believe it's technically possible to manage our current population even at our current numbers, if (and yes, it's a big if) we used sustainable energy sources to power it (and made other sacrifices, like diet, travel, and other reductions in our massively consumptive lifestyles). As a result, many scientists (to my awareness) are aiming for the latter. I know it's not likely to happen of course. At the same time, it's hard to imagine any successful way to enforce global population limits. That said, demographics in major countries are seeing a decline in population today (some in horrifyingly advanced stages actually; check wikipedia for fertility rates by country). Turns out if you want to limit the world's population, just jam everyone into cities, no further policy required :)
Potentially? There is a 10 year lag prior to nearly full forcing…Where will we be in 10 years? What steps will be taken? Something close to nothing I project. At least my favorite airline has eliminated plastic straws!!! And they are very, very proud of there commitment to the planet even as they increase their fleet every year. It’s so too late to meaningfully reduce GHG’s.
The US is the biggest producer of C02s and it seems their populous is not in favour of environmental climate protections. Of the most recent polls, the one with Harris in the highest percentage has her at 54% and Drumpf at 47%, when the ONLY candidates talking about climate change are the Green Party and they have 0%. Bernie sanders still talks about it, but he’s not a candidate. If drumpf can still to this day poll at 47%, a major miracle would need to occur to turn the ship around. I don’t mean to be a doomer, but to have even a small chance of taking some few personal precautions, I need to keep reminding myself what’s going on.
Every aspect of daily life is and will be impacted from food / water all the way to National Security . Only tragedy can invite change .....and I see even that being ignored .....I see it all the time in SW Florida .
Love the canoe analogy. Yes, they are unstable but they are also quite efficient. Put a nervous person in a canoe and the world will fall in upon them when they panic and over adjust. They will end up in the water, if they continue to panic they are done for unless they are wearing a life jacket. Even then if they panic they will likely die. Is this a tipping point? People allow themselves to give up and become panicked to the point of depression, anxiety, unstable acts or just give up hope? There are a lot of people out here ready and willing to move humanity and the planet forward. Perhaps wallowing in the fear is unhealthy? Yes, there are many issues but how does this help?
Humans have overstepped long-term population sustainability locally as many environmental degradation impacts have indicated for at least 30k years as we began killing off megafauna. The rate has obviously sky-rocketed, in the last 50 years as locally has become globally. The biggest fallacy is that we could have done anything differently. Those who take the most the quickest were always going to get ahead and drive this forward. Nothing will change. Our future is already written. Maybe we are in the position to witness the "high point" climax of humanity's story, or perhaps the end?
The weird part is that it seems that the extinction rate started to accelerate before homo sapiens. There is a terrifying process driven by natural laws and we are nothing but a manifestation of it. Born to annihilate.
thank you so much this is so refreshing as it seems in life today that literally nobody cares what happens to the planet the severity and speed of direction ahead of us is terrifying and yet the climatic change we are experiencing is barely mentioned in main stream media why is that? I have my own view on this issue re the media however i would truely value how others see it
Is this still just a "looming threat" or has it already begun? My understanding is if even one of the positive feedback loops has begun they will all be triggered and we get runaway climate change.
Thanks for keeping us informed about what is happening to the planet. I would guess, given the exponential acceleration of changes in the planet's climate system towards human inhabitability, it it is becoming more likely that humans will go completely extinct, along with most of the complex life on earth, for a long period of time, geologically speaking. Nate Hagens show , referenced below, is very good, but it has a substantial focus on how humans (who, in his scenario) would survive, would create a society that does not repeat our mistakes. I think he needs to pivot towards preventing extinction. If there are no humans , there will be no human society. An ecologist he interviewed a couple of weeks ago, Corey Bradshaw, commented that sentience, as we think of it, may be an evolutionary "one off"" - if this incredibly diverse and complex biosphere is reduced to slime mold, that when the climate finally drifts back to being habitable for complex life, sentience may never evolve again as life becomes more complex in new and different forms. That would be a truly profound loss, if millions of years from now, at the tenth extinction, there was no consciousness, no awareness, no feeling, no affection. We are a wonderful terrible species.
Yet the only thing people talk about are the olympics. You know, that event where thousands of people ride planes to then play the ball/ride horse/take a swim...
@@christinearmington be it by air or boat, it just makes no sense for just two days of "competition" just so a couple rich countries can flaunt a medal...
As far as I can tell, almost everyone understands that we're at a critical point with man-made climate change, and yet almost nobody is addressing a rational way to stop the climate change problem. Our behavior is the problem, and yet most of the solutions that people talk about are really just a continuation of our wrongful treatment of our environment. Creating two or three new energy infrastructures will only double, or maybe triple, the amount of damage we are doing to our environment... But there is one way. We can correct our behavior by first correcting our sick behavior model. Our behavior model is our profit model, 'profit equals income minus expenses'. In order to maximize profit businesses must minimize expenses by ignoring the damages that they cause to the environment, and they must fire as many employees as they can to keep labor expenses as low as possible. I think that the only way to rescue our environment is by creating a new and healthier behavior model. I recommend this new profit model: Profit equals protecting and enriching the environment, and sharing the sustenance that it provides for all of us. The new profit model requires us to create millions of new jobs that will come under the heading "Caretakers of the Environment". Caretakers will have many specialized categories: 1. Collecting pollution that is already in the environment 2. Collecting pollution before it gets into the environment 3. Dealing with all of the waste in such ways that are good for the environment, and or good for the production of products. 4. Economically incentivizing families with two or fewer children 5. Designing new ways of producing products so that those products last for a long time and don't have to be replaced every two years. There will be many more types of Caretaker jobs. Every company and government will have Caretaker jobs, and everybody will be schooled, from elementary school through university about how to be caretakers of the environment. Profit = protecting and enriching the environment, and sharing the sustenance that it Provides for all of us. This profit model works because it changes the meaning of expenses. It says our profit is the environment and our only major expense is ignoring our obligation to protect and enrich our environment. It may already be too late to save our environment, but it is never too late to try.
The solution is simple imo: stop putting the economy first! Those of us in the west already have enough, so having to stop consumiong is no big deal when you compare it to the literal future of all life on this planet! The reckoning in terms of tipping points already committed to is already here, so if we don't put the brakes on immediately then we are just making the outcomes worse. How many millions or billions have to die before we face the obvious? BTW I don't think we should include technological solutions in the answer, at least not CCS, because they would be too little too late and are being used as a sticking plaster for doing nothing to reduce emissions.
you can google it its a deep topic, (and search - Earth's "carrying capacity" of humans ) it depends on average consumption, and (extraction of non renewables) usually tied to food production hence some think its almost open ended, but food production is tied to a stable climate and cheap oil the topic is also called "Overshoot"
Thank you for this video, even if it reminds me of the probably incorrect saying "Nero fiddles while Rome burned." The most positive take I got from this is that Earth will continue, of course, and eventually stabilize itself in a much different form. The concern of the possible next president of the USA is in the near-term effects on coastal real estate, while the president of Russia doubtless salivates over short-term agricultural possibilities. The power structures behind these two individuals seem to guarantee the inevitability of your predictions, and media will soothe us as we pass on, with I suppose a final burst of media outrage. Time to sit back and enjoy the ride?
I read something interesting last month. It said something to the effect that we cannot stop what’s coming now: a total change in the lives and structure of this planet and people, BUT, we STILL need to get emissions down the 0% carbon ASAP to make sure we sustain that new distorted life, otherwise even that will get worse. It’s weird how I had not even thought about that: that we will STILL need to eliminate human caused carbon emissions, OR ELSE! I guess most ppl might be thinking the way I was, that it’s gonna tip, or not, so since we know now that it indeed IS going to tip, maybe there’s nothing that can be done, but that is not true. For the people and animals who may survive, we still need to get emissions to zero STAT! I feel dumb, but yeah, that surprised me that it had now dawned on me. Life is seemingly about survival tho and most of us work for corporations, and the corps are not doing the right things, so by working for them we’re supporting them, and can’t stop or we can’t pay our rent.
To my understanding, CO2 from naturally occurring permafrost thaw and wetlands has a different Carbon isotope signature than CO2 from recent burning of fossil fuels. Should not this ratio of the Carbon isotope signatures be discussed in this video?
That said. I have seen Paul's maps of Emissions from Copernicus mapping and it does show methane emissions from many wetland locations below a certain altitude. I'm not sure if those methane emissions are at the altitude where the climate scientists are studying the Carbon isotope ratios.
The comment raises an interesting point about the differentiation of methane emissions from various sources using carbon isotope ratios. Methane emissions from wetlands and other natural sources can indeed have different isotopic signatures compared to those from anthropogenic sources like fossil fuels. The Copernicus Sentinel satellites, particularly Sentinel-5P, have been instrumental in mapping methane emissions globally. These satellites can detect methane emissions from various sources, including wetlands, but the spatial resolution might not always allow for precise attribution of emissions to specific sources or altitudes[1][3][7]. In terms of altitude, the emissions detected by satellites are generally from the lower atmosphere, where they are most concentrated. The isotopic analysis of methane, which can help distinguish between different sources, typically requires ground-based or airborne measurements, as these provide the precision needed to analyze the isotopic composition. Therefore, while satellite data is excellent for identifying and quantifying methane emissions on a broad scale, detailed isotopic studies are usually conducted with supplementary ground-based data. Discussing the carbon isotope ratios in the context of methane emissions could indeed provide valuable insights into the sources and dynamics of these emissions, helping to better understand the contributions of natural versus anthropogenic sources to global methane levels. Citations: [1] www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Mapping_high-resolution_methane_emissions_from_space [2] acp.copernicus.org/articles/23/3325/2023/ [3] sentinels.copernicus.eu/web/success-stories/-/copernicus-sentinel-5p-reveals-global-methane-emissions-hotspots [4] egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2024/egusphere-2024-1584/ [5] www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05447-w [6] climate.copernicus.eu/c3s-cams-support-efforts-safeguard-wetlands [7] www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Mapping_methane_emissions_on_a_global_scale [8] www.eoportal.org/satellite-missions/copernicus-sentinel-5p
@@ClimateEmergencyForum Thank you, Paul. I will study these links. I am a Chemist and have been studying global boiling on my own since 2008 when I first heard about methane hydrate thaw. I had known about permafrost thaw but methane hydrate thaw made my blood run cold. Wetland emissions, permafrost thaw and methane hydrate thaw (not to mention other natural methane sources which can tip from sinks to sources) are formidable to say the least.
Tipping points are to keep tipping with the help of every day's growing emmissions. All we have to do is refreeze the Arctic and suck all the extra CO2 we've added to the atmosphere. No toxic positivity allowed.
thank you, we can prevent these phenomena like cyclone by using this hot seasonal atmospheric condition, recent years in summer geothermal happen in surface of coastline, there are many countries in coastline with seasonal hot weather and water condition by using this energy not only is economy but also reduce global warming like Japan, China, Mediterranean countries, Iran, Mexico, Us, Canada, (Africa and Arabian countries....) that I mentioned in my profile.
we need to think tiny... especially with solar and wind. These monstrous huls out there, another unsustainable. Imagine vast fields of pinwheel sized soft silicone blades whirling away over a light floating frame that can support habitat for ocean farming shellfish or whatever... These low impact twirlies in number, would be easier and economical to maintain, with the added bonus of habitat spots beneath them....
The biggest and most important climate "tipping point", which is our global heat transfer system (aka the hydrological system) has become overwhelmed by the heat energy equivalent of 20 Hiroshima yield nuclear bomb blasts per second (Eliot Jacobson), where each one releases 63 trillion BTUs. We can see the overwhelm in the 1.2 trillion tons of melting global ice (C3S) annually, 3.3 billion tons per day, the 321 million cubic miles of oceans heating to 70 degF in midlatitudes, the 1 trillion tons of water vapor evaporating from the surface daily, and the consequencial increasing precipitation/flooding obvious in the news daily. So, we are way, way past this existential tipping point for global cooling.
All your viewers know that we are more or less doomed. The thing I'd like to know, and I think many others, is how to become less doomed by personal/group action. And I do not mean politics, but practical action. Mitigation, adaptation and technical innovation could be part of your reports I know that this is beyond your focus, but I think your viewers would like to be informed on this.
I obtained two patents, pro se, for an alternative energy device, Sandia told me that "every component had to have multiple redundancies because if one failed it would burn itself to the ground", defying physics! Not even aircraft have that many back-ups. They don't want innovation, they just want to control every aspect, this was when Enron was in swing, power brokerage, and I believe the start of this carbon tax, shell game. I talked to my Senator, face to face, he receive $12million to enhance the growth of such technologies and everybody wouldn't even let me have a tiny test site.
The comment suggesting that "Planet Earth is plunging into an Ice Age" can be addressed and corrected with current scientific understanding: ### Current Climate Context 1. **Interglacial Period**: Earth is currently in an interglacial period known as the Holocene, which began about 11,500 years ago. Interglacial periods are characterized by warmer global temperatures and the retreat of ice sheets[2][3]. 2. **Glacial-Interglacial Cycles**: These cycles are driven by variations in Earth's orbit and axial tilt, known as Milankovitch cycles. While Earth is technically in an ice age (the Quaternary glaciation), we are in a warm phase within this ice age[4][6]. 3. **Impact of Greenhouse Gases**: The accumulation of anthropogenic greenhouse gases, such as CO2, is delaying the onset of the next glacial period. Current scientific consensus suggests that human-induced climate change is leading to global warming, not cooling[3][6]. ### Misconceptions About an Imminent Ice Age 1. **No Immediate Ice Age**: There is no scientific evidence to support the claim that Earth is on the brink of entering a new glacial period imminently. In fact, increased greenhouse gas concentrations are expected to prevent the onset of a new ice age for tens of thousands of years[1][6]. 2. **Abrupt Climate Change**: While Earth's climate has experienced rapid changes in the past, such as the Younger Dryas event, these are not indicative of an impending ice age. Current climate models project continued warming due to human activities[7]. ### Conclusion The idea that Earth is plunging into an ice age contradicts the current understanding of climate science. Instead, the focus is on addressing the impacts of global warming and mitigating greenhouse gas emissions to stabilize the climate. It is important to rely on scientific evidence and consensus when discussing climate trends and predictions. Citations: [1] eos.org/research-spotlights/characterizing-interglacial-periods-over-the-past-800000-years [2] www.ncei.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-11/1%20Glacial-Interglacial%20Cycles-Final-OCT%202021.pdf [3] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age [4] serc.carleton.edu/eslabs/cryosphere/4a.html [5] www.washington.edu/news/2024/04/17/ice-age-climate-analysis-reduces-worst-case-warming-expected-from-rising-co2/ [6] energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Glacial_and_interglacial_periods [7] www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/climate-weather/abrupt-climate-change/are-we-on-the-brink-of-a-new-little-ice-age/
The million pound question I have guys. I am investing absolutely everything into a deep adaptation plan. but working out if hothouse earth or local amoc collapse induced Ice age is my fate in the south west of the UK? The Amoc is tipping. the real questions are, can the run away hothouse prevent the ice cap growth during a collapsed amoc, or im I certain to face the devastating reduction in thermal input from the amoc collapse? My climate resillience plans are a form of judo that uses the enemies strength against itself. in this instance that means that solar thermal is my energy backbone... but if AMOC Collapse happens and causes a mini ice age in the UK, my plans will probably freeze to death :(
Your question touches on a complex and critical issue involving the potential impacts of climate change on the South West of the UK, particularly concerning the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and the concept of "Hothouse Earth." ### AMOC Collapse vs. Hothouse Earth 1. **AMOC Collapse**: The AMOC plays a crucial role in regulating the climate of Europe, including the UK. A collapse could lead to significant cooling in the region, akin to a mini ice age, with potential temperature drops of 4°C to 10°C in Europe[2][5]. This would severely impact agriculture and could lead to harsher winters[2]. 2. **Hothouse Earth**: This scenario involves runaway global warming, potentially leading to a long-term stabilization of global temperatures 4-5°C higher than pre-industrial levels[8]. Such warming could prevent the growth of ice caps even if the AMOC collapses, but the regional effects in the UK could still include cooling due to the loss of warm water currents[2]. ### Balancing Risks Given the uncertainty and potential for both scenarios to unfold, your resilience plan should consider both possibilities: - **Diversification of Energy Sources**: While solar thermal is a good backbone, consider incorporating other renewable energy sources like wind or biomass that might be less affected by temperature fluctuations. - **Insulation and Heating**: Enhance the insulation of your property and explore alternative heating methods that do not rely solely on solar thermal energy. - **Agricultural Adaptation**: If you are involved in agriculture, consider crops that are resilient to both colder and warmer conditions, and explore water management strategies to cope with potential changes in precipitation. - **Community Engagement**: Work with local communities to develop shared resources and strategies for resilience, such as community gardens or shared renewable energy projects. ### Conclusion While it's challenging to predict which scenario might dominate, preparing for both outcomes by diversifying your strategies and building community resilience can provide a more robust defense against the uncertain future. The scientific community continues to study these phenomena, and staying informed will be crucial as new data and models emerge. Citations: [1] www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-paper-warning-of-a-collapse-of-the-atlantic-meridional-overturning-circulation/ [2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturning_circulation [3] aheadoftheherd.com/shutdown-of-deep-ocean-current-could-cause-extreme-climate-change-as-soon-as-2025-richard-mills/ [4] news.mongabay.com/2023/11/climate-change-threatens-the-north-atlantics-currents-ecosystems-and-stability-commentary/ [5] www.intellinews.com/warning-of-new-ice-age-in-europe-as-currents-in-the-atlantic-approach-a-catastrophic-tipping-point-312281/ [6] www.renewablematter.eu/en/amoc-collapse-consequences [7] insideclimatenews.org/news/09022024/climate-impacts-from-collapse-of-atlantic-meridional-overturning-current-could-be-worse-than-expected/ [8] www.stockholmresilience.org/research/research-news/2018-08-06-planet-at-risk-of-heading-towards-hothouse-earth-state.html
Tipping is in the present and more tipping in the near future tense. A little longer and an avalanche of them will run amok of all past projections. Some biologists in respected science journals have estimated that vertebrae mammals are already been subjected to 10,000 times the rate of climate change that they are capable of adapting to. Species co-extinction is a recognized phenomena. So, the fate of humankind is rather very bleak.
What are you guys talking about? We're already way past hitting those tipping points (I.e. self-reinforcing feedback loops). Especially when that Canadian mega-fire produced more CO2 than three years of all human activity in Canada. Or the Paradise fire in California, that put as much CO2 into the atmosphere as was saved from 12 years of CA's emissions laws 🤣🤣🤣(Source: David Wallace Wells). I went with Dr. Guy McPherson's more radical secondary research, years ago. The only thing he's wrong about is his conclusion that human beings are going extinct within a decade. Western Civilization maybe, but not humans. WWII served as a perfect example that human beings are like cockroaches: We can endure a lot of hardship, and still survive (The Holocaust, Allied POW's held by the Japanese, etc.).
Regarding the melting permafrost, 6mm of the 11% of the 57M square miles of earth's land area are melting annually, where one pound of ice absorbs 144 BTUs as it transitions to liquid water. Sure, methane release is a huge problem increasing the Greenhouse effect, but water vapor is the primary GHG and amplifies the effect of the other GHGs, including CO2, methane, etc. 950 gts of CO2 are in the atmosphere already, with 40 more gts accumulating annually, but the amount of water vapor at any one time is 10-14 trillion tons, so about 14 times more water vapor by weight. Eliot Jacobson sent me packing from his website as a "troll" for pointing out such easily confirmed data sets from Google and reliable sources. Thin skin epidemic? Hope it doesn't happen on this fine site.
Society even in Europe doesn't seem willing to catch the low hanging fruit to reduce emissions, such as reduced speed limits and eliminate motorized grass and shrubs trimmers and mowers, yes even eliminate to the electric ones as they run on fossil fuels used to make the electricity. But I went to the Netherlands and heard just as much annoying mowing machines on my walk as I do in the u.s. grass and shrubs did exist before these machines. There are ways to cut grass and shrubs with manpower which increases employment for all the idle young men too. Plus try native plants instead of grass. Plus coastal cities should outlaw docking and fueling of superyachts. They use the diesel equivalent of 500 million carseach year. Superyacht owners will just buy off the local politicians if we try to change things though. Yacht sales are increasing every year, which will increase demand for fossil fu ls nd increase cost on yhesupply/demand cost curve, increasing fuel price for rhe poor of the world.
Concerning as it is, there are some great minds working very hard to prevent these tipping points from escalation. Great discussion and thank you for keeping us informed.
Unless responsible governments take hold of electricity generation, The economics will buy our politicians. As Putin takes control of fossil fuels, at what level are your countries resources being used to form policies? Our very existence depends on allowing green projects and technologies to transform our economic systems. Alberta Canada uses 89 percent fossil fuels for electricity generation while the Canadian average is about 18 percent.
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The wheels are coming off the bus. I used to think it would be a good idea for every country to pledge to half their population within the next 100 years but now it appears we are evoking the wrath of mother nature to do it for us in spades. Stagnant 40+C hot air composed of the wrong mix design to sustain human life, kinda hard to escape that one. People also ask: Does methane cause breathing problems? High levels of methane can reduce the amount of oxygen breathed from the air. This can result in mood changes, slurred speech, vision problems, memory loss, nausea, vomiting, facial flushing and headache. In severe cases, there may be changes in breathing and heart rate, balance problems, numbness, and unconsciousness. Elton John`s Sorry Seems to be the Hardest Word would make a good Earth`s song to humanity.
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What is a tipping point? When the overall planetary system has heated up enough to carry on heating even, if we would stop emitting more GHGses(?) We have arguably passed that point, specially because there is no significant reduction to emissions in sight. We have to apply geo engineering among other things like reducing emissions. Too many large-scale positive feedbacks already in play today, not to do it.
You're belief about "tipping point" is misguided. And your claim "We have arguably passed that point, specially because there is no significant reduction to emissions in sight" is also in error because there is clearly emissions reductions in sight. Extraction becomes ever more difficult as the lowest fruit are picked first.
@@TheDanEdwards I wold say, that even if we stop emitting GHGses tomorrow, the sea ice would still melt, thus consequently the methane from the bottom of the ocean would begin to come to the atmosphere. And all the stored carbon would follow the same path. I know what tipping point means, really. Why ..misguided..?
@@ZER0-- Currently drumpf is still polling at 47% whilst the green party is at 0%, so I would agree with you. US makes up largest share on earth of greenhouse gas production.
None of the planets in our solar system are doing stuff like flipping ,heating up getting brighter with that big yellow thing in our sky Isnt being it normal self.and then there comets,and meteorites coming in ,all this is with the absence of mankind ,so get on with ehat you have left.🤔😯😐😊
Because the world is dying, put you money in the NEEC Institute. You can't take the money with you when the tipping points kill you. NEEC Institute is the velopment of cheap NEEC energie.
@@ClimateEmergencyForum It is an institute without money, it is on EU europa ec site. It is about cheap clean NEEC energy and there is very little interest. The Dutch government even ignores me. If there is a fire, you would at least invite the fire brigade to come and take a look at your fire, right?.
@@rachellandry3116 its not an Artichoke (a type of thistle), it is Topinambur, a type of sunflower once native to Norht America, now disseminated around the world. Part of the roots are being eaten.
What policies should governments pursue? What can individuals do to reduce personal carbon footprints? We need details. Saying "reduce the use of fossil fuels" tells us nothing! I think about it, but I'm no expert! Eat local, reduce driving to once or twice/week. Stop buying fast food as the packaging produces tons of waste. Go vegan. Work from home and force corporations to institute work from home if possible. Don't heat and cool the entire house; heat and cool yourself (2 cubic yards!) Create public service announcements about how to repair, reuse, repurpose and recycle. Increase the use of recyclable plastics and stop the manufacture of non-recyclable plastic products. Eliminate planned obsolescence from appliances and require the right to repair. What else?
Your comment raises important points about the need for actionable and detailed strategies to reduce carbon footprints, both at the governmental and individual levels. Here are some additional policies and actions that can be pursued: ### Government Policies 1. **Renewable Energy Incentives**: Governments can provide subsidies and tax incentives for solar, wind, and other renewable energy sources to encourage their adoption. 2. **Carbon Pricing**: Implement carbon taxes or cap-and-trade systems to incentivize reductions in greenhouse gas emissions. 3. **Public Transportation Investment**: Expand and improve public transportation infrastructure to reduce reliance on personal vehicles. 4. **Building Efficiency Standards**: Enforce stricter energy efficiency standards for new buildings and provide incentives for retrofitting existing structures. 5. **Support for Sustainable Agriculture**: Promote sustainable farming practices and support local food systems to reduce emissions from agriculture. 6. **Waste Management Policies**: Implement policies to reduce waste, increase recycling rates, and promote composting. ### Individual Actions 1. **Energy Efficiency**: Use energy-efficient appliances and LED lighting, and consider smart thermostats to optimize energy use. 2. **Sustainable Transportation**: Walk, cycle, carpool, or use public transportation whenever possible. Consider electric or hybrid vehicles for personal use. 3. **Dietary Changes**: Reduce meat consumption and support sustainable farming practices by choosing locally sourced and organic foods. 4. **Conscious Consumerism**: Buy durable goods, support companies with sustainable practices, and avoid single-use plastics. 5. **Water Conservation**: Implement water-saving techniques at home, such as low-flow fixtures and mindful water use. 6. **Community Engagement**: Participate in local environmental initiatives and advocate for sustainable policies in your community. 7. **Education and Awareness**: Stay informed about climate issues and share knowledge with others to foster a culture of sustainability. By combining policy initiatives with individual actions, we can make significant strides in reducing carbon emissions and mitigating climate change. Your suggestions are valuable, and every small change contributes to a larger impact.
live locally... and understand what powers we have with the ability to interact and see the world over via our little screens. Dont jet ofg to Disney... don't consume "product". Go local-regional. Slow ur roll... that's all you can do...and love the vanishing nature and continue to be like every other human before you as you wonder.... be amazed at the time in which we live. Our existence is improbable. so much more to exist at this time of vast information. are we not Gods..?
My suggestion is to lower the speed limit to 35MPH and stop paving most roads. It is hard to implement electric vehicles based on fossil fuel designs. Stop all forms of planned obsolescence. Stop war. If we can't stop killing each other it is insane to think we can cooperate enough to stop the dangers of global cooking.
"What is enough?" I don't do anything just to feel good and look good. I wouldn't buy an EV - I see it like unbearable compromising. One more of your blind neighbors opening his eyes with your little help - is a *big big thing* And worry if this one doesn't change at all - that why we are where we are. "Complaining is far overrated" :)
I find mentioning EV adoption and capitalistic economies of scale as a positive tipping point for humanity extremely depressing. A societal tipping point beyond which everyone comes together and forces a peaceful revolution would be an actual positive tipping point.
I think everyone becoming vegan & govt making animal exploitation illegal would be a positive tipping point. Animal ag makes up 30% of greenhouse gasses and close to 100% of animals’ stuff ring. At this rate ppl might deserve what this vid says is coming. (Misspellings on purpose)
How is widespread EV adoption a good thing? The scaling up of heavy metals mining and the toxic products (and byproducts) associated with battery manufacturing will hardly help with pollution. Then, what about the disposal of these materials after their end of service life? Can we build enough nuclear power facilities fast enough to replace the fossil fuel power generating capacity needed to satisfy the increasing need for electricity to charge the batteries? We know now natural gas as a "bridge fuel" is BS.
The comment raises valid concerns about the environmental and logistical challenges associated with widespread electric vehicle (EV) adoption. Here are some points to consider: ### Environmental Impact of EV Batteries 1. **Mining and Manufacturing**: It's true that the production of EV batteries involves mining for metals like lithium, cobalt, and nickel, which can have significant environmental and social impacts. However, advancements in battery technology and recycling are helping to mitigate these effects. For example, efforts are being made to reduce reliance on cobalt and improve the efficiency of mining operations[1][2]. 2. **Battery Recycling and Reuse**: The recycling of EV batteries is a growing industry, with technologies being developed to recover valuable materials and reduce waste. This not only addresses disposal concerns but also reduces the need for new mining[1][2]. Additionally, "second life" applications for used batteries, such as energy storage systems, extend their usefulness beyond their initial vehicle service[4]. ### Energy Infrastructure and Transition 1. **Electricity Demand**: The transition to EVs will indeed increase electricity demand. However, this can be managed through a combination of renewable energy sources, grid improvements, and energy storage solutions. The integration of renewable energy with flexible nuclear power and other technologies can help meet the increased demand sustainably[6][7]. 2. **Nuclear Power**: Building new nuclear facilities is a long-term process, but they can provide a stable and low-carbon energy source to complement renewables. Innovations in nuclear technology, such as small modular reactors, offer potential for more flexible and quicker deployment[7]. 3. **Natural Gas as a Bridge Fuel**: The criticism of natural gas as a "bridge fuel" highlights the need for a more direct transition to renewable energy sources. While natural gas has lower emissions than coal, it still contributes to greenhouse gas emissions and should be phased out in favor of cleaner alternatives. Note that while natural gas does produce less CO2 when burned compared to coal, the climate benefits are undermined by methane leaks throughout its lifecycle. To truly capitalize on the potential environmental benefits of natural gas, it is crucial to minimize methane emissions through improved infrastructure, technology, and regulatory measures. This would help ensure that natural gas can serve as a more sustainable energy source during the transition to renewable energy. ### Conclusion While there are challenges associated with EV adoption, including environmental impacts and energy infrastructure needs, these are being actively addressed through technological innovation and policy measures. The shift to EVs is part of a broader transition to a more sustainable and low-carbon future, with ongoing efforts to improve the lifecycle management of batteries and integrate renewable energy sources into the grid. Citations: [1] www.usa.ev-battery-recycling.com [2] cftgroup.ca/articles/can-batteries-from-electric-vehicles-be-recycled-in-ottawa-here-is-full-guide/ [3] justenergy.com/blog/ev-batteries/ [4] www.exro.com/industry-insights/ev-battery-recycling-and-the-role-of-battery-energy-storage-systems [5] www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electric-vehicles-air-pollution [6] www.iaea.org/topics/infrastructure-development/milestones-approach [7] www.nrel.gov/docs/fy20osti/77088.pdf [8] assets.bbhub.io/professional/sites/24/Energy-Transition-Investment-Trends-2024.pdf
@@ClimateEmergencyForum And now nuclear as well. It’s just ridiculous. I’ve been through all these stages of thought about EVs. The simple fact is that we need a collective society and not an individualistic one. As long as you’re thinking about environmentalism through a capitalistic prism and not thinking about a whole new way to run a society, you’re going to miss the point. You’re correctly identifying the problems but tinkering around the edges for the solutions, which you must know will never make a dent.
Question: is is still the case that more elderly people die in winter rather than in summer? Is it the case that as winter get warmer that fewer elderly people will die because of cold weather? Will that be offset by more deaths in summer? It would be very useful to compare and contrast the available data simply to make people understand what sorts of tradeoffs are coming to pass. It would also be useful to try to better quantify what happens to general productivity during hot summer months especially in the global south. It's not just a matter of more people dying by some small % point. Economic Productivity of all sorts are also impacted, including diminished productivity of farm animals who will suffer a great deal more than people who can always shelter in air conditioned enclosures.
And the mahnectic polos oscilantes....só there us other tipping point that is a consequência if the uce melting tbat us tbe oscillatoon i. The msgnetic pés of the Earth ...
I live in Connecticut and the storms we just had literally destroyed two towns, whole infrastructure gone demolished, bridges and roads completely washed away. 12 inches of rain in four hours and dams could not hold the water back. Never seen anything like it.
Sorry for this loss and thank-you for sharing.
The storms in are state have definitely changing abruptly
Bad luck, but nothing to do with human caused global warming though, is it?😊
@@rz9305
Weather patterns change over time; there's nothing we can do about it.
Very sad for the losses
Tipping points could be interpreted as Tripping points, on our stumble to extinction
Great but tragic play on words.
I see what you did there... lol
Or a psychedelic trip to oblivion! 🎉
Oh... Why don't you just tell us what you really think😡😡😡😡😡
If you include out of control human consumption as a tipping point then we have been in freefall for a century at least.
Throw out last week's ratty clothes and devices. Your purchase of new super sexy outfit benefits you and your economy. Be a hero.
Yes materialism bursting its banks, consumer culture, is key problem to be addressed.
supply side economics. since Reagan.
Growth will eventually meet entropy and then it will become clear to all that we are fucked.
@rachellandry3116 it predates Reagan.
I'm starting to realize that we passed tipping points in the climate catastrophe back 30 years ago.
Yep probably, I think it was at least in 2020 when the Bush and Cheney oil regime took over the US government, they did NOTHING to help and actually caused a huge increase in carbon emissions due to their illegal wars in Iraqistan 😡
Indeed, it's been our "last chance to take actions" and an "emergency" for decades. Sounds like we're a bit late.
You don't know how sad it makes me. I'm still an organic hippie at 77. I remember the political changes that tried to wipe out everything we said about fossil fuel and war and chemicals in the ground way back then. And it was right after someone murdered our president. . . .MLK. . .RFK. . .Malcom. . .Kent State. Free Huey Newton! We should have won back then, but I suppose we had to repeat the bad stuff like some sort of concentric circles or a spiral. And Nixon wasn't a crook? It was a very dark era caused by those who could not stand the light.
I totally agree with what so many people have commented on. We have already passed tipping points. The ship has left the port. We had three events all considered thousand year storms in South Florida in a period of 14 months.. I have never seen anything like it and I have lived here 24 years which of course is a small period of time in the grand scheme of things. However, it is now our rainy season and we’re not getting rain. We have had 37 days which is the record of heat alerts and to have that in South Florida is not easy to do . Everything is messed up. The climate will continue to destabilize. I don’t talk about this to anyone because people look at me like I’m from Jupiter. As far as I see things we’re done.
Yes, people will be people. It is hard to talk to others.
I would enthusiastically encourage anyone who follows the Climate Emergency Forum to also tune in to Nate Hagen's "Great Simplification" podcast. For several years he has been featuring in- depth discussions with deeply-credentialed, international experts on every field of human endeavor and ecological pertinence. It is a virtual college-level "classroom" of ecological and sociological awareness. It is truly "adult education" at its finest.
Ew he's over rated
Hagens has lots of good content but he is a fence sitter on climate disruption.
Been watching Nate for years. Love watching him change over the years. I wondered if it was possible for a bean counter, but he's done it!! Change, adaptation is the most important quality we can develop, according the Yuval Harari.
To what point? Emissions are still rising and war just goes on. Whether it's a nuclear Winter or a roasting Earth....take your choice.
Nate Hagan's podcast is a sober and honest discussion. I am encouraged
26 C warmer in the Arctic - what could possibly go wrong?
Don't you love it when statistics are used so poorly to amplify a situation?😂
Forget the simple fact that ice levels have increased lately.
Thank you for providing up to date information on the situation and presenting reality as it is. Several interacting control loops makes an extremely complex system making it almost, if not impossible to predict how stability will be reached. Clearly, the climate extremes being reported indicate a very unstable system. Some countries, like Finland, have vast underground facilities which may be put to good use, although large-scale subterranean agriculture is going to be a challenge.
We’ve already crossed some tipping points due to lag (oh my bad, that gets said at 8:50)
With those extreme high SSTs still persisting even after El Nino has faded could just mean weve crossed a major tipping point in the ocean system and Ocean Heat is now constantly released into the atmosphere (at an ever increasing rate). I mean thats what those high SSTs during El Nino are, warm water moves from a couple of thousand meters down to the sea surface and is released into the atmosphere.
looming.... exponentials are occurring now. Carbon sink of the oceans is full up. permafrost is thawing out, polar ice melting, AMOC slowing down... and aerosol effect...
It amazes me that our global supply chain of corn snacks and mass produced products keeps the local grocery stores stocked... when that fails?
woooah Nellie!
its gonna get ugly
Pretty sure we're tipping, if we've not already tipped.
remember when they took down the sign at glacier national park that said the glaciers would be gone by 2020 but were still there?
they are still there today.
Remember when they said the north pole would be ice free by 2014? it isn't
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WE ARE DOOMED!
eh don't sweat it. we all are doooooomed from the moment of conception...
I for one, am ASTOUNDED to be self aware at such a critical.point in our evolution.
What a show!
are you not entertained?
entropy is inevitable
embrace it.
@@rachellandry3116 "There behind the glass is a real blade of grass. Be careful as you pass. Move along, move along!"
@@rachellandry3116or… you could do everything you can to reduce, reuse, recycle and sustainably live light on planet earth.
check check and checkity check!
Im as small as any peepfrog or bug can be...
I'm fine with it... no moral self flagellatin' here. It doesn't help... I just woke up one day and found myself born on a middle aged planet at the terminal stage of a very clever species.. It's one Helluva sight!
Yes... YES!!
21:00 Thanks, Peter, I did not know about Yedoma Permafrost. I did know about methane hydrate thaw in the Laptev Sea and the ESAS.
did you know that methane oxidises readily in the air when exposed to UV?
it's half life in the air is about 3 days, if it could build up it already would have.
Thanks Peter and Paul. There's an excellent article in The Conversation today from Exeter University on the Paris Agreement and The total urgency to stop burning fossil fuels. Very important. Paul you might want to comment on your channel on the article. Thanks everyone
Everyday is a schoolday...
Merci beaucoup.
17:00 I did not know that about heat in the SE US prison system. Thanks, Paul.
Excellent education. Thank you.
Thank you guys for all of the knowledge
And now some people in high places are talking about nuclear strikes, limited of course, so there may be many things that will contribute to our demise. I do believe that as climate change causes mass migration, violence in many forms will follow.
Ive been ranting about nuclear war for years and accusing the mainstream media of cheering it on,
they act like its to big to happen and we can push right up to the edge with no consequences,
don't know if they are fools or its been in the plans for depopulation from the start
Mass migration, famine and (local) wars will transfer civilized communities into an equivalent of MAD MAX 2.0
They're already here.
... indeed... 👽
The rate of change has been non-linear for a long time already. For at least twenty years when the rate of change was estimated the results were clear the rate of change was exponential meaning going faster and faster and faster.
It seems pretty clear to me the canoe has passed its tipping point. Reduction of shipping aerosols was the extra oomph that sped it up. I mean, we all know all this is going to get worse essentially forever in human terms.
Let me first to say good night Irena! Its over soon!
The party's over, it's time to call it a day.
With our current emissions trend & (irreversible?) self-reinforcing feedbacks, we are not gonna prevent the tipping points ahead. So we just don't know the timescale for when one or other of their sudden dramatic effects will kick in..
Clearly in our current scenario, taking full account of risk management & precautionary principles, geoengineering options should rapidly be properly scientifically tried & tested, because we may be forced to implement their use (whether we like it or not) if pitched into a runaway greenhouse-hothouse effect.
We've actually been close to 'tipping points' since about 1980. The USA came to it late, is all.
I remember the ramblings in the UK since my son was born (1980)
Happily, I haven't been worrying for 40 years.
1.48…😐
We are in a train with 8 billion+ people. And we are trying to stop, an inch… away… from the edge.😐 my leaders are playing with the lives of this world…
It's too bad that decades back societies refused to approach the taboo subject of population control. I shudder to hear people state almost with pride that they had 7 children and now have 20 grandchildren.
Here's what should be done. Even now there's a possibility of improving the situation on planet earth. 2 children limit, no more. Tax breaks for people who comply. High taxes for those who don't. A lottery that can be entered for people who choose to-allowing a few winners to have up to 4 children.
Free birth control available in all countries. And penalties everywhere for those having more than 2 children. In this age it has been selfish and hurtful to the entire earth to mindlessly have unlimited numbers of descendants.
@@christinechandler1662 Governments around the world are boosting guys like Musk up. I saw him give a speech to a huge crowd including govt in Italy where he preached repeatedly that population needs to be boosted WAY up or we (he) won’t have enough workers in the next generation. US is biggest producer of greenhouse gasses. Polls currently show 47% of voting Americans are STILL planing to vote for drumpf. As far as I know Harris doesn’t talk about human caused climate change either. The green party is polling at 0%. Time for us to prepare as much as possible on a personal level.
@@christinechandler1662 You may already be aware, but the human population could go to 0 tomorrow and the planet would still heat up for at least 1000 years due to all the CO2 already present in the atmosphere. On the flip side, I believe it's technically possible to manage our current population even at our current numbers, if (and yes, it's a big if) we used sustainable energy sources to power it (and made other sacrifices, like diet, travel, and other reductions in our massively consumptive lifestyles). As a result, many scientists (to my awareness) are aiming for the latter.
I know it's not likely to happen of course. At the same time, it's hard to imagine any successful way to enforce global population limits. That said, demographics in major countries are seeing a decline in population today (some in horrifyingly advanced stages actually; check wikipedia for fertility rates by country). Turns out if you want to limit the world's population, just jam everyone into cities, no further policy required :)
We're on track to pass 3.0 by 2050.
@christinechandler1662 yes thank you for putting this out there
Potentially? There is a 10 year lag prior to nearly full forcing…Where will we be in 10 years? What steps will be taken? Something close to nothing I project. At least my favorite airline has eliminated plastic straws!!! And they are very, very proud of there commitment to the planet even as they increase their fleet every year. It’s so too late to meaningfully reduce GHG’s.
The US is the biggest producer of C02s and it seems their populous is not in favour of environmental climate protections. Of the most recent polls, the one with Harris in the highest percentage has her at 54% and Drumpf at 47%, when the ONLY candidates talking about climate change are the Green Party and they have 0%. Bernie sanders still talks about it, but he’s not a candidate. If drumpf can still to this day poll at 47%, a major miracle would need to occur to turn the ship around. I don’t mean to be a doomer, but to have even a small chance of taking some few personal precautions, I need to keep reminding myself what’s going on.
Every aspect of daily life is and will be impacted from food / water all the way to National Security . Only tragedy can invite change .....and I see even that being ignored .....I see it all the time in SW Florida .
Love the canoe analogy. Yes, they are unstable but they are also quite efficient. Put a nervous person in a canoe and the world will fall in upon them when they panic and over adjust. They will end up in the water, if they continue to panic they are done for unless they are wearing a life jacket. Even then if they panic they will likely die.
Is this a tipping point? People allow themselves to give up and become panicked to the point of depression, anxiety, unstable acts or just give up hope? There are a lot of people out here ready and willing to move humanity and the planet forward. Perhaps wallowing in the fear is unhealthy? Yes, there are many issues but how does this help?
I am afrsid ....as much I look at it as much a cry ...
Have you tried therapy?
you are in the stage called grief
Humans have overstepped long-term population sustainability locally as many environmental degradation impacts have indicated for at least 30k years as we began killing off megafauna. The rate has obviously sky-rocketed, in the last 50 years as locally has become globally. The biggest fallacy is that we could have done anything differently. Those who take the most the quickest were always going to get ahead and drive this forward. Nothing will change. Our future is already written. Maybe we are in the position to witness the "high point" climax of humanity's story, or perhaps the end?
The weird part is that it seems that the extinction rate started to accelerate before homo sapiens. There is a terrifying process driven by natural laws and we are nothing but a manifestation of it. Born to annihilate.
Unfortunately we are passed tipping points. God help us. God bless 🙏
thank you so much this is so refreshing as it seems in life today that literally nobody cares what happens to the planet the severity and speed of direction ahead of us is terrifying and yet the climatic change we are experiencing is barely mentioned in main stream media why is that?
I have my own view on this issue re the media however i would truely value how others see it
Thank you so much for your support.
Is this still just a "looming threat" or has it already begun? My understanding is if even one of the positive feedback loops has begun they will all be triggered and we get runaway climate change.
Yes, but at what time scale? I'm in the "it has already begun" camp.
@@timeenoughforartme too
Thank you, from Brazil
You are welcome!
@@ClimateEmergencyForum Thank you! May I use your videos to promote climate emergency discussions in Brazil?
Thanks for keeping us informed about what is happening to the planet. I would guess, given the exponential acceleration of changes in the planet's climate system towards human inhabitability, it it is becoming more likely that humans will go completely extinct, along with most of the complex life on earth, for a long period of time, geologically speaking. Nate Hagens show , referenced below, is very good, but it has a substantial focus on how humans (who, in his scenario) would survive, would create a society that does not repeat our mistakes. I think he needs to pivot towards preventing extinction. If there are no humans , there will be no human society. An ecologist he interviewed a couple of weeks ago, Corey Bradshaw, commented that sentience, as we think of it, may be an evolutionary "one off"" - if this incredibly diverse and complex biosphere is reduced to slime mold, that when the climate finally drifts back to being habitable for complex life, sentience may never evolve again as life becomes more complex in new and different forms. That would be a truly profound loss, if millions of years from now, at the tenth extinction, there was no consciousness, no awareness, no feeling, no affection. We are a wonderful terrible species.
My back of the napkin calculations is that we passed the tipping points back when Vice President Gore was promoting An Inconvenient Truth.
Much credit to Guy McPherson for reporting on all of this years ago.
Yet the only thing people talk about are the olympics.
You know, that event where thousands of people ride planes to then play the ball/ride horse/take a swim...
I always despair at the carbon footprint of shipping horses by air internationally. 🥺
@@christinearmington be it by air or boat, it just makes no sense for just two days of "competition" just so a couple rich countries can flaunt a medal...
As far as I can tell, almost everyone understands that we're at a critical point with man-made climate change, and yet almost nobody is addressing a rational way to stop
the climate change problem. Our behavior is the problem, and yet most of the solutions that people talk about are really just a continuation of our wrongful treatment of our environment.
Creating two or three new energy infrastructures will only double, or maybe triple, the amount of damage we are doing to our environment... But there is one way. We can correct our
behavior by first correcting our sick behavior model. Our behavior model is our profit model, 'profit equals income minus expenses'. In order to maximize profit businesses must minimize
expenses by ignoring the damages that they cause to the environment, and they must fire as many employees as they can to keep labor expenses as low as possible.
I think that the only way to rescue our environment is by creating a new and healthier behavior model. I recommend this new profit model:
Profit equals protecting and enriching the environment, and sharing the sustenance that it provides for all of us.
The new profit model requires us to create millions of new jobs that will come under the heading "Caretakers of the Environment".
Caretakers will have many specialized categories:
1. Collecting pollution that is already in the environment
2. Collecting pollution before it gets into the environment
3. Dealing with all of the waste in such ways that are good for the environment, and or good for the production of products.
4. Economically incentivizing families with two or fewer children
5. Designing new ways of producing products so that those products last for a long time and don't have to be replaced every two years.
There will be many more types of Caretaker jobs.
Every company and government will have Caretaker jobs, and everybody will be schooled, from elementary school through university about how to be caretakers of the environment.
Profit = protecting and enriching the environment, and sharing the sustenance that it Provides for all of us.
This profit model works because it changes the meaning of expenses. It says our profit is the environment and our only major expense is ignoring
our obligation to protect and enrich our environment.
It may already be too late to save our environment, but it is never too late to try.
The solution is simple imo: stop putting the economy first! Those of us in the west already have enough, so having to stop consumiong is no big deal when you compare it to the literal future of all life on this planet! The reckoning in terms of tipping points already committed to is already here, so if we don't put the brakes on immediately then we are just making the outcomes worse. How many millions or billions have to die before we face the obvious? BTW I don't think we should include technological solutions in the answer, at least not CCS, because they would be too little too late and are being used as a sticking plaster for doing nothing to reduce emissions.
When did we hit the tipping point for overpopulation?
you can google it its a deep topic, (and search - Earth's "carrying capacity" of humans ) it depends on average consumption,
and (extraction of non renewables) usually tied to food production hence some think its almost open ended,
but food production is tied to a stable climate and cheap oil the topic is also called "Overshoot"
The day Trump was born? Maybe Reagan?
I believe it was like 👍🏻 n the 90’s. Could be mistaken.
Thank you for this video, even if it reminds me of the probably incorrect saying "Nero fiddles while Rome burned." The most positive take I got from this is that Earth will continue, of course, and eventually stabilize itself in a much different form. The concern of the possible next president of the USA is in the near-term effects on coastal real estate, while the president of Russia doubtless salivates over short-term agricultural possibilities. The power structures behind these two individuals seem to guarantee the inevitability of your predictions, and media will soothe us as we pass on, with I suppose a final burst of media outrage. Time to sit back and enjoy the ride?
buckle in, buckaroo!
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You know and I know that it's all over now, Baby Blue. Now what are you going to do? You are just chronicling the end.
Watching the news in the USA and the DNC. Only one person said climate change. O well...
Meanwhile the GOP rejects the fact that Global warming/Climate change is occurring and their plan is to increase fossil fuel emissions.
Permafrost melt will give access to fossil fuels in the North. Will humans go and get it. Yes. Madness
The question/challenge is not to accurately predict the future; the challenge is, can we do anything to reverse the trend to blue ocean event.
I read something interesting last month. It said something to the effect that we cannot stop what’s coming now: a total change in the lives and structure of this planet and people, BUT, we STILL need to get emissions down the 0% carbon ASAP to make sure we sustain that new distorted life, otherwise even that will get worse. It’s weird how I had not even thought about that: that we will STILL need to eliminate human caused carbon emissions, OR ELSE! I guess most ppl might be thinking the way I was, that it’s gonna tip, or not, so since we know now that it indeed IS going to tip, maybe there’s nothing that can be done, but that is not true. For the people and animals who may survive, we still need to get emissions to zero STAT! I feel dumb, but yeah, that surprised me that it had now dawned on me. Life is seemingly about survival tho and most of us work for corporations, and the corps are not doing the right things, so by working for them we’re supporting them, and can’t stop or we can’t pay our rent.
To my understanding, CO2 from naturally occurring permafrost thaw and wetlands has a different Carbon isotope signature than CO2 from recent burning of fossil fuels. Should not this ratio of the Carbon isotope signatures be discussed in this video?
Good point Diane.
That said. I have seen Paul's maps of Emissions from Copernicus mapping and it does show methane emissions from many wetland locations below a certain altitude. I'm not sure if those methane emissions are at the altitude where the climate scientists are studying the Carbon isotope ratios.
The comment raises an interesting point about the differentiation of methane emissions from various sources using carbon isotope ratios. Methane emissions from wetlands and other natural sources can indeed have different isotopic signatures compared to those from anthropogenic sources like fossil fuels.
The Copernicus Sentinel satellites, particularly Sentinel-5P, have been instrumental in mapping methane emissions globally. These satellites can detect methane emissions from various sources, including wetlands, but the spatial resolution might not always allow for precise attribution of emissions to specific sources or altitudes[1][3][7].
In terms of altitude, the emissions detected by satellites are generally from the lower atmosphere, where they are most concentrated. The isotopic analysis of methane, which can help distinguish between different sources, typically requires ground-based or airborne measurements, as these provide the precision needed to analyze the isotopic composition. Therefore, while satellite data is excellent for identifying and quantifying methane emissions on a broad scale, detailed isotopic studies are usually conducted with supplementary ground-based data.
Discussing the carbon isotope ratios in the context of methane emissions could indeed provide valuable insights into the sources and dynamics of these emissions, helping to better understand the contributions of natural versus anthropogenic sources to global methane levels.
Citations:
[1] www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Mapping_high-resolution_methane_emissions_from_space
[2] acp.copernicus.org/articles/23/3325/2023/
[3] sentinels.copernicus.eu/web/success-stories/-/copernicus-sentinel-5p-reveals-global-methane-emissions-hotspots
[4] egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2024/egusphere-2024-1584/
[5] www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05447-w
[6] climate.copernicus.eu/c3s-cams-support-efforts-safeguard-wetlands
[7] www.esa.int/Applications/Observing_the_Earth/Copernicus/Sentinel-5P/Mapping_methane_emissions_on_a_global_scale
[8] www.eoportal.org/satellite-missions/copernicus-sentinel-5p
@@ClimateEmergencyForum Thank you, Paul. I will study these links. I am a Chemist and have been studying global boiling on my own since 2008 when I first heard about methane hydrate thaw. I had known about permafrost thaw but methane hydrate thaw made my blood run cold. Wetland emissions, permafrost thaw and methane hydrate thaw (not to mention other natural methane sources which can tip from sinks to sources) are formidable to say the least.
@@dianewallace6064I learn so much here , thank you all.
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You're welcome!
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Press the pedal to the metal
5:28 that's exponential change
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Tipping points are to keep tipping with the help of every day's growing emmissions. All we have to do is refreeze the Arctic and suck all the extra CO2 we've added to the atmosphere. No toxic positivity allowed.
thank you, we can prevent these phenomena like cyclone by using this hot seasonal atmospheric condition, recent years in summer geothermal happen in surface of coastline, there are many countries in coastline with seasonal hot weather and water condition by using this energy not only is economy but also reduce global warming like Japan, China, Mediterranean countries, Iran, Mexico, Us, Canada, (Africa and Arabian countries....) that I mentioned in my profile.
Algo boost!
GEEEEE, LOOKS like a doomer was on target, and you so and so's, Being very"cautious" BLEW IT.
It's time for plan B: preservation.
Might anyone here think physical literacy education is rather important to helping society right now?
we need to think tiny... especially with solar and wind. These monstrous huls out there, another unsustainable. Imagine vast fields of pinwheel sized soft silicone blades whirling away over a light floating frame that can support habitat for ocean farming shellfish or whatever... These low impact twirlies in number, would be easier and economical to maintain, with the added bonus of habitat spots beneath them....
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The biggest and most important climate "tipping point", which is our global heat transfer system (aka the hydrological system) has become overwhelmed by the heat energy equivalent of 20 Hiroshima yield nuclear bomb blasts per second (Eliot Jacobson), where each one releases 63 trillion BTUs. We can see the overwhelm in the 1.2 trillion tons of melting global ice (C3S) annually, 3.3 billion tons per day, the 321 million cubic miles of oceans heating to 70 degF in midlatitudes, the 1 trillion tons of water vapor evaporating from the surface daily, and the consequencial increasing precipitation/flooding obvious in the news daily. So, we are way, way past this existential tipping point for global cooling.
All your viewers know that we are more or less doomed. The thing I'd like to know, and I think many others, is how to become less doomed by personal/group action. And I do not mean politics, but practical action. Mitigation, adaptation and technical innovation could be part of your reports
I know that this is beyond your focus, but I think your viewers would like to be informed on this.
You may want to watch this video on Climate Safe Villages: ua-cam.com/video/USl2CvCVxNo/v-deo.html
I obtained two patents, pro se, for an alternative energy device, Sandia told me that "every component had to have multiple redundancies because if one failed it would burn itself to the ground", defying physics! Not even aircraft have that many back-ups. They don't want innovation, they just want to control every aspect, this was when Enron was in swing, power brokerage, and I believe the start of this carbon tax, shell game. I talked to my Senator, face to face, he receive $12million to enhance the growth of such technologies and everybody wouldn't even let me have a tiny test site.
We're not going to BS our way past tipping points...way to late...glad to be an older person.
I thought we blew past the tipping points a decade ago.
Planet Earth is plunging into an Ice Age.
The comment suggesting that "Planet Earth is plunging into an Ice Age" can be addressed and corrected with current scientific understanding:
### Current Climate Context
1. **Interglacial Period**: Earth is currently in an interglacial period known as the Holocene, which began about 11,500 years ago. Interglacial periods are characterized by warmer global temperatures and the retreat of ice sheets[2][3].
2. **Glacial-Interglacial Cycles**: These cycles are driven by variations in Earth's orbit and axial tilt, known as Milankovitch cycles. While Earth is technically in an ice age (the Quaternary glaciation), we are in a warm phase within this ice age[4][6].
3. **Impact of Greenhouse Gases**: The accumulation of anthropogenic greenhouse gases, such as CO2, is delaying the onset of the next glacial period. Current scientific consensus suggests that human-induced climate change is leading to global warming, not cooling[3][6].
### Misconceptions About an Imminent Ice Age
1. **No Immediate Ice Age**: There is no scientific evidence to support the claim that Earth is on the brink of entering a new glacial period imminently. In fact, increased greenhouse gas concentrations are expected to prevent the onset of a new ice age for tens of thousands of years[1][6].
2. **Abrupt Climate Change**: While Earth's climate has experienced rapid changes in the past, such as the Younger Dryas event, these are not indicative of an impending ice age. Current climate models project continued warming due to human activities[7].
### Conclusion
The idea that Earth is plunging into an ice age contradicts the current understanding of climate science. Instead, the focus is on addressing the impacts of global warming and mitigating greenhouse gas emissions to stabilize the climate. It is important to rely on scientific evidence and consensus when discussing climate trends and predictions.
Citations:
[1] eos.org/research-spotlights/characterizing-interglacial-periods-over-the-past-800000-years
[2] www.ncei.noaa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-11/1%20Glacial-Interglacial%20Cycles-Final-OCT%202021.pdf
[3] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_age
[4] serc.carleton.edu/eslabs/cryosphere/4a.html
[5] www.washington.edu/news/2024/04/17/ice-age-climate-analysis-reduces-worst-case-warming-expected-from-rising-co2/
[6] energyeducation.ca/encyclopedia/Glacial_and_interglacial_periods
[7] www.whoi.edu/know-your-ocean/ocean-topics/climate-weather/abrupt-climate-change/are-we-on-the-brink-of-a-new-little-ice-age/
When the AMOC collapses, Europe has to face a much colder climate. More the same as Alaska nowadays.
The million pound question I have guys.
I am investing absolutely everything into a deep adaptation plan.
but working out if hothouse earth or local amoc collapse induced Ice age is my fate in the south west of the UK?
The Amoc is tipping. the real questions are, can the run away hothouse prevent the ice cap growth during a collapsed amoc, or im I certain to face the devastating reduction in thermal input from the amoc collapse?
My climate resillience plans are a form of judo that uses the enemies strength against itself.
in this instance that means that solar thermal is my energy backbone... but if AMOC Collapse happens and causes a mini ice age in the UK, my plans will probably freeze to death :(
Your question touches on a complex and critical issue involving the potential impacts of climate change on the South West of the UK, particularly concerning the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation (AMOC) and the concept of "Hothouse Earth."
### AMOC Collapse vs. Hothouse Earth
1. **AMOC Collapse**: The AMOC plays a crucial role in regulating the climate of Europe, including the UK. A collapse could lead to significant cooling in the region, akin to a mini ice age, with potential temperature drops of 4°C to 10°C in Europe[2][5]. This would severely impact agriculture and could lead to harsher winters[2].
2. **Hothouse Earth**: This scenario involves runaway global warming, potentially leading to a long-term stabilization of global temperatures 4-5°C higher than pre-industrial levels[8]. Such warming could prevent the growth of ice caps even if the AMOC collapses, but the regional effects in the UK could still include cooling due to the loss of warm water currents[2].
### Balancing Risks
Given the uncertainty and potential for both scenarios to unfold, your resilience plan should consider both possibilities:
- **Diversification of Energy Sources**: While solar thermal is a good backbone, consider incorporating other renewable energy sources like wind or biomass that might be less affected by temperature fluctuations.
- **Insulation and Heating**: Enhance the insulation of your property and explore alternative heating methods that do not rely solely on solar thermal energy.
- **Agricultural Adaptation**: If you are involved in agriculture, consider crops that are resilient to both colder and warmer conditions, and explore water management strategies to cope with potential changes in precipitation.
- **Community Engagement**: Work with local communities to develop shared resources and strategies for resilience, such as community gardens or shared renewable energy projects.
### Conclusion
While it's challenging to predict which scenario might dominate, preparing for both outcomes by diversifying your strategies and building community resilience can provide a more robust defense against the uncertain future. The scientific community continues to study these phenomena, and staying informed will be crucial as new data and models emerge.
Citations:
[1] www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-paper-warning-of-a-collapse-of-the-atlantic-meridional-overturning-circulation/
[2] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantic_meridional_overturning_circulation
[3] aheadoftheherd.com/shutdown-of-deep-ocean-current-could-cause-extreme-climate-change-as-soon-as-2025-richard-mills/
[4] news.mongabay.com/2023/11/climate-change-threatens-the-north-atlantics-currents-ecosystems-and-stability-commentary/
[5] www.intellinews.com/warning-of-new-ice-age-in-europe-as-currents-in-the-atlantic-approach-a-catastrophic-tipping-point-312281/
[6] www.renewablematter.eu/en/amoc-collapse-consequences
[7] insideclimatenews.org/news/09022024/climate-impacts-from-collapse-of-atlantic-meridional-overturning-current-could-be-worse-than-expected/
[8] www.stockholmresilience.org/research/research-news/2018-08-06-planet-at-risk-of-heading-towards-hothouse-earth-state.html
Thank you. about the same as I get from the AI's. I wonder if this calculation includes Hansen's Nov Forcings update :)
Tipping is in the present and more tipping in the near future tense. A little longer and an avalanche of them will run amok of all past projections. Some biologists in respected science journals have estimated that vertebrae mammals are already been subjected to 10,000 times the rate of climate change that they are capable of adapting to. Species co-extinction is a recognized phenomena. So, the fate of humankind is rather very bleak.
Runaway greenhouse effect is what's going to happen. Watch the movie The Arrival.
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What are you guys talking about? We're already way past hitting those tipping points (I.e. self-reinforcing feedback loops). Especially when that Canadian mega-fire produced more CO2 than three years of all human activity in Canada. Or the Paradise fire in California, that put as much CO2 into the atmosphere as was saved from 12 years of CA's emissions laws 🤣🤣🤣(Source: David Wallace Wells).
I went with Dr. Guy McPherson's more radical secondary research, years ago. The only thing he's wrong about is his conclusion that human beings are going extinct within a decade. Western Civilization maybe, but not humans. WWII served as a perfect example that human beings are like cockroaches: We can endure a lot of hardship, and still survive (The Holocaust, Allied POW's held by the Japanese, etc.).
Need SRM in the poles… Will someone actually state this?
We do talk about it here: ua-cam.com/video/IYfiSWVbFuQ/v-deo.html
@@ClimateEmergencyForum Thank You!
Regarding the melting permafrost, 6mm of the 11% of the 57M square miles of earth's land area are melting annually, where one pound of ice absorbs 144 BTUs as it transitions to liquid water. Sure, methane release is a huge problem increasing the Greenhouse effect, but water vapor is the primary GHG and amplifies the effect of the other GHGs, including CO2, methane, etc. 950 gts of CO2 are in the atmosphere already, with 40 more gts accumulating annually, but the amount of water vapor at any one time is 10-14 trillion tons, so about 14 times more water vapor by weight. Eliot Jacobson sent me packing from his website as a "troll" for pointing out such easily confirmed data sets from Google and reliable sources. Thin skin epidemic? Hope it doesn't happen on this fine site.
Society even in Europe doesn't seem willing to catch the low hanging fruit to reduce emissions, such as reduced speed limits and eliminate motorized grass and shrubs trimmers and mowers, yes even eliminate to the electric ones as they run on fossil fuels used to make the electricity. But I went to the Netherlands and heard just as much annoying mowing machines on my walk as I do in the u.s. grass and shrubs did exist before these machines. There are ways to cut grass and shrubs with manpower which increases employment for all the idle young men too. Plus try native plants instead of grass.
Plus coastal cities should outlaw docking and fueling of superyachts. They use the diesel equivalent of 500 million carseach year. Superyacht owners will just buy off the local politicians if we try to change things though. Yacht sales are increasing every year, which will increase demand for fossil fu ls nd increase cost on yhesupply/demand cost curve, increasing fuel price for rhe poor of the world.
Concerning as it is, there are some great minds working very hard to prevent these tipping points from escalation.
Great discussion and thank you for keeping us informed.
Acceleration will bring damnation.
Unless responsible governments take hold of electricity generation,
The economics will buy our politicians.
As Putin takes control of fossil fuels, at what level are your countries resources being used to form policies?
Our very existence depends on allowing green projects and technologies to transform our economic systems.
Alberta Canada uses 89 percent fossil fuels for electricity generation while the Canadian average is about 18 percent.
The Weather Channel said humans can stand up to 60 degrees before they suffer hyerthermia.
Severas componentes if a system become tô interação and ti push the dynamucal system into a direcionar, the direction in which the components pull the system will cause the system tô go tô a New atractor
The wheels are coming off the bus.
I used to think it would be a good idea for every country to pledge to half their population within the next 100 years but now it appears we are evoking the wrath of mother nature to do it for us in spades.
Stagnant 40+C hot air composed of the wrong mix design to sustain human life, kinda hard to escape that one.
People also ask:
Does methane cause breathing problems?
High levels of methane can reduce the amount of oxygen breathed from the air. This can result in mood changes, slurred speech, vision problems, memory loss, nausea, vomiting, facial flushing and headache. In severe cases, there may be changes in breathing and heart rate, balance problems, numbness, and unconsciousness.
Elton John`s Sorry Seems to be the Hardest Word would make a good Earth`s song to humanity.
To preserve the little time we have left , play these reports at 1.25 speed . Makes for a more listenable production as a bonus.
haha!
Thus us what us hapoening tô the atmisphere irs moving from obe atractor tô the other ...and this will cause a catástrofe in the prévios system because it may stop, or go on wuth great differences ....imagens that stop ....
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What is a tipping point? When the overall planetary system has heated up enough to carry on heating even, if we would stop emitting more GHGses(?) We have arguably passed that point, specially because there is no significant reduction to emissions in sight. We have to apply geo engineering among other things like reducing emissions. Too many large-scale positive feedbacks already in play today, not to do it.
Tipping points are all a bit vague and arbitrary, and so I use human stupidity as my metric, and the result shows we're buggered. Capitalism.
might call it the effects of runaway "climate disruptions" on our current modern human society's
You're belief about "tipping point" is misguided. And your claim "We have arguably passed that point, specially because there is no significant reduction to emissions in sight" is also in error because there is clearly emissions reductions in sight. Extraction becomes ever more difficult as the lowest fruit are picked first.
@@TheDanEdwards I wold say, that even if we stop emitting GHGses tomorrow, the sea ice would still melt, thus consequently the methane from the bottom of the ocean would begin to come to the atmosphere. And all the stored carbon would follow the same path. I know what tipping point means, really. Why ..misguided..?
@@ZER0-- Currently drumpf is still polling at 47% whilst the green party is at 0%, so I would agree with you. US makes up largest share on earth of greenhouse gas production.
Tipping points are not looming. They are mostly in our past. Some distant past, some as recently as the '60s and '70s.
Hi. I am from germany. german scientists predictions are usualy more positve. But i am not
Good night ....Gode bless you
None of the planets in our solar system are doing stuff like flipping ,heating up getting brighter with that big yellow thing in our sky
Isnt being it normal self.and then there comets,and meteorites coming in ,all this is with the absence of mankind ,so get on with ehat you have left.🤔😯😐😊
People don't/can't change. We're screwed. Read the Breitard comment section or any Murdoch publication for context.
If if if if if
No one is listening 😂😂
Busy on phone
..... is there anybody...
OUT there...
Because the world is dying, put you money in the NEEC Institute.
You can't take the money with you when the tipping points kill you.
NEEC Institute is the velopment of cheap NEEC energie.
NEEC? = National Energy and Environment Council?
@@ClimateEmergencyForum
It is an institute without money, it is on EU europa ec site.
It is about cheap clean NEEC energy and there is very little interest.
The Dutch government even ignores me.
If there is a fire, you would at least invite the fire brigade to come and take a look at your fire, right?.
Can you provide a link?
I am not dure, because U am not a Mathemathiciam, however; I suspect that we are moving tô something called at Mathematic. a catástrofe mathematic.
Remember Jerusalem Artichokes guys! That crazy efficient crop will keep going long after most others fail...
if I gotta live on artichokes, I'm ready to stumble off this mortal coil immediately...
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@@rachellandry3116 its not an Artichoke (a type of thistle), it is Topinambur, a type of sunflower once native to Norht America, now disseminated around the world. Part of the roots are being eaten.
can it be covered in chocolate...? I'm asking for a friend...
diy solar everywhere ftw plz hurry life depends on you
I'm starting to think there are more climate tipping points than there are COVID boosters. 😂
I assure you, there are.
Yes, I would emphasize "peaceful".
What policies should governments pursue? What can individuals do to reduce personal carbon footprints? We need details. Saying "reduce the use of fossil fuels" tells us nothing! I think about it, but I'm no expert! Eat local, reduce driving to once or twice/week. Stop buying fast food as the packaging produces tons of waste. Go vegan. Work from home and force corporations to institute work from home if possible. Don't heat and cool the entire house; heat and cool yourself (2 cubic yards!) Create public service announcements about how to repair, reuse, repurpose and recycle. Increase the use of recyclable plastics and stop the manufacture of non-recyclable plastic products. Eliminate planned obsolescence from appliances and require the right to repair. What else?
Your comment raises important points about the need for actionable and detailed strategies to reduce carbon footprints, both at the governmental and individual levels. Here are some additional policies and actions that can be pursued:
### Government Policies
1. **Renewable Energy Incentives**: Governments can provide subsidies and tax incentives for solar, wind, and other renewable energy sources to encourage their adoption.
2. **Carbon Pricing**: Implement carbon taxes or cap-and-trade systems to incentivize reductions in greenhouse gas emissions.
3. **Public Transportation Investment**: Expand and improve public transportation infrastructure to reduce reliance on personal vehicles.
4. **Building Efficiency Standards**: Enforce stricter energy efficiency standards for new buildings and provide incentives for retrofitting existing structures.
5. **Support for Sustainable Agriculture**: Promote sustainable farming practices and support local food systems to reduce emissions from agriculture.
6. **Waste Management Policies**: Implement policies to reduce waste, increase recycling rates, and promote composting.
### Individual Actions
1. **Energy Efficiency**: Use energy-efficient appliances and LED lighting, and consider smart thermostats to optimize energy use.
2. **Sustainable Transportation**: Walk, cycle, carpool, or use public transportation whenever possible. Consider electric or hybrid vehicles for personal use.
3. **Dietary Changes**: Reduce meat consumption and support sustainable farming practices by choosing locally sourced and organic foods.
4. **Conscious Consumerism**: Buy durable goods, support companies with sustainable practices, and avoid single-use plastics.
5. **Water Conservation**: Implement water-saving techniques at home, such as low-flow fixtures and mindful water use.
6. **Community Engagement**: Participate in local environmental initiatives and advocate for sustainable policies in your community.
7. **Education and Awareness**: Stay informed about climate issues and share knowledge with others to foster a culture of sustainability.
By combining policy initiatives with individual actions, we can make significant strides in reducing carbon emissions and mitigating climate change. Your suggestions are valuable, and every small change contributes to a larger impact.
live locally... and understand what powers we have with the ability to interact and see the world over via our little screens. Dont jet ofg to Disney... don't consume "product". Go local-regional. Slow ur roll...
that's all you can do...and love the vanishing nature and continue to be like every other human before you as you wonder....
be amazed at the time in which we live. Our existence is improbable. so much more to exist at this time of vast information.
are we not Gods..?
The Amish approach! Keep the old traditions that don't pollute. Small scale family farming is more environmentally friendly! 🐄🐖🐓🐐🐎=💩=🍎🌽🍉🍒🥦🍅
My suggestion is to lower the speed limit to 35MPH and stop paving most roads. It is hard to implement electric vehicles based on fossil fuel designs.
Stop all forms of planned obsolescence.
Stop war. If we can't stop killing each other it is insane to think we can cooperate enough to stop the dangers of global cooking.
"What is enough?"
I don't do anything just to feel good and look good. I wouldn't buy an EV - I see it like unbearable compromising.
One more of your blind neighbors opening his eyes with your little help - is a *big big thing*
And worry if this one doesn't change at all - that why we are where we are. "Complaining is far overrated" :)
I find mentioning EV adoption and capitalistic economies of scale as a positive tipping point for humanity extremely depressing. A societal tipping point beyond which everyone comes together and forces a peaceful revolution would be an actual positive tipping point.
Yes, I would emphasize "peaceful".
I think everyone becoming vegan & govt making animal exploitation illegal would be a positive tipping point. Animal ag makes up 30% of greenhouse gasses and close to 100% of animals’ stuff ring. At this rate ppl might deserve what this vid says is coming. (Misspellings on purpose)
How is widespread EV adoption a good thing? The scaling up of heavy metals mining and the toxic products (and byproducts) associated with battery manufacturing will hardly help with pollution. Then, what about the disposal of these materials after their end of service life? Can we build enough nuclear power facilities fast enough to replace the fossil fuel power generating capacity needed to satisfy the increasing need for electricity to charge the batteries? We know now natural gas as a "bridge fuel" is BS.
The comment raises valid concerns about the environmental and logistical challenges associated with widespread electric vehicle (EV) adoption. Here are some points to consider:
### Environmental Impact of EV Batteries
1. **Mining and Manufacturing**: It's true that the production of EV batteries involves mining for metals like lithium, cobalt, and nickel, which can have significant environmental and social impacts. However, advancements in battery technology and recycling are helping to mitigate these effects. For example, efforts are being made to reduce reliance on cobalt and improve the efficiency of mining operations[1][2].
2. **Battery Recycling and Reuse**: The recycling of EV batteries is a growing industry, with technologies being developed to recover valuable materials and reduce waste. This not only addresses disposal concerns but also reduces the need for new mining[1][2]. Additionally, "second life" applications for used batteries, such as energy storage systems, extend their usefulness beyond their initial vehicle service[4].
### Energy Infrastructure and Transition
1. **Electricity Demand**: The transition to EVs will indeed increase electricity demand. However, this can be managed through a combination of renewable energy sources, grid improvements, and energy storage solutions. The integration of renewable energy with flexible nuclear power and other technologies can help meet the increased demand sustainably[6][7].
2. **Nuclear Power**: Building new nuclear facilities is a long-term process, but they can provide a stable and low-carbon energy source to complement renewables. Innovations in nuclear technology, such as small modular reactors, offer potential for more flexible and quicker deployment[7].
3. **Natural Gas as a Bridge Fuel**: The criticism of natural gas as a "bridge fuel" highlights the need for a more direct transition to renewable energy sources. While natural gas has lower emissions than coal, it still contributes to greenhouse gas emissions and should be phased out in favor of cleaner alternatives. Note that while natural gas does produce less CO2 when burned compared to coal, the climate benefits are undermined by methane leaks throughout its lifecycle. To truly capitalize on the potential environmental benefits of natural gas, it is crucial to minimize methane emissions through improved infrastructure, technology, and regulatory measures. This would help ensure that natural gas can serve as a more sustainable energy source during the transition to renewable energy.
### Conclusion
While there are challenges associated with EV adoption, including environmental impacts and energy infrastructure needs, these are being actively addressed through technological innovation and policy measures. The shift to EVs is part of a broader transition to a more sustainable and low-carbon future, with ongoing efforts to improve the lifecycle management of batteries and integrate renewable energy sources into the grid.
Citations:
[1] www.usa.ev-battery-recycling.com
[2] cftgroup.ca/articles/can-batteries-from-electric-vehicles-be-recycled-in-ottawa-here-is-full-guide/
[3] justenergy.com/blog/ev-batteries/
[4] www.exro.com/industry-insights/ev-battery-recycling-and-the-role-of-battery-energy-storage-systems
[5] www.sustainabilitybynumbers.com/p/electric-vehicles-air-pollution
[6] www.iaea.org/topics/infrastructure-development/milestones-approach
[7] www.nrel.gov/docs/fy20osti/77088.pdf
[8] assets.bbhub.io/professional/sites/24/Energy-Transition-Investment-Trends-2024.pdf
@@ClimateEmergencyForum And now nuclear as well. It’s just ridiculous. I’ve been through all these stages of thought about EVs. The simple fact is that we need a collective society and not an individualistic one.
As long as you’re thinking about environmentalism through a capitalistic prism and not thinking about a whole new way to run a society, you’re going to miss the point. You’re correctly identifying the problems but tinkering around the edges for the solutions, which you must know will never make a dent.
Question: is is still the case that more elderly people die in winter rather than in summer? Is it the case that as winter get warmer that fewer elderly people will die because of cold weather? Will that be offset by more deaths in summer? It would be very useful to compare and contrast the available data simply to make people understand what sorts of tradeoffs are coming to pass. It would also be useful to try to better quantify what happens to general productivity during hot summer months especially in the global south. It's not just a matter of more people dying by some small % point. Economic Productivity of all sorts are also impacted, including diminished productivity of farm animals who will suffer a great deal more than people who can always shelter in air conditioned enclosures.
And the mahnectic polos oscilantes....só there us other tipping point that is a consequência if the uce melting tbat us tbe oscillatoon i. The msgnetic pés of the Earth ...