Jerry Couldn't Pay For The Wedding So He Killed His Wife
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2023
- Today's JCS Inspired true crime documentary will cover the interrogation of Jerry Odum, a man who brutally murdered his girlfriend with a baseball bat.
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Fine, good. The title is fucked up.
Check title spelling 😊
Also the names over their photos are reversed
Thank you, I appreciate this, especially because I am not a native english speaker. 👍
A huge thanks for doing that. I rareley have issues listening to English audio, it helps when I can read it too :)
didn’t want her to know he was broke, but was fine with everyone else in his life knowing he’s a murderer
I know he's sitting there like he's going to f****** picnic
🤣🤣 💯 true what a thicko
@@artjohnLagas-gk6mg🤣🤣
And broke !
that is love
I am positive she'd rather be broke than dead. What an absolute coward
She was a business owner. She likely wasn’t broke like him. She wasn’t the one making bad decisions. He had been thinking about it for a while.
I think he did it maybe because he just wanted to. The reasons he's giving just doesn't make sense. 🤯
@genericamerican7574 She had a nail salon, and was driving a Pontiac G6..... she was probably just as broke as he was.
@@CharlesbjtownMaybe all the same I know plenty of women that are dating broke men in this current moment even many women who are a lot more successful than their boyfriends but they do have a problem with Liars that's something most women will not accept
@@ericfranchi1354
I think exactly the same thing.
He wanted to, and since he's 61, with nothing, he may have figured that if he went to prison, he'd be housed, fed, clothed and have medical, dental all for free.
He's going to find out he miscalculated "slightly".
Blind folding a woman then attacking her with a weapon while she's unarmed and unassuming is the most cowardly thing you can do. This freak makes me sick.
If he told her he was scared he would lose her … now he lost her and his freedom
What a great plan
Oh and UA-cam knows he’s a psychopath
And blindfolding her honestly had to be more about him not being able to look her in the eyes than it was to blind her. What a coward.
The shock and betrayal and terror she must have felt in that moment. That monster 👺!!!!!
@@Boing2699It’s shame. Shocking case
Can you imagine that woman must have been very excited thinking she was getting married, then her boyfriend tells her he has a surprise for her, only to have him do that?!!! It's just so terrible! That poor girl was all excited about her boyfriend marrying her! WOW!!!
Interesting he can be so truthful about committing murder to strangers, but not that he's broke to someone he "loved"!
I was just thinking this.
Just what I thought too..
He seems like an old lonely man that was in love with the idea of someone showing him attention more than the actual person.
Ironic, HUH 🧐🙄
I have an idea that might have helped. Just say you cant marry her. This is one of the worst excuses for murder that I have ever heard. I hope he never sees the outside of a prison.
Yea. I figured he could have easily explained the issue to her. This seems more extreme. I’m sure there was more to it than his lazy excuse
I totally agree...💯
Or he could’ve just been honest and told her to give him about a year to get it together. He could’ve suggested a later date… it’s not that serious.
@@SoulWinningButterfly He made it real serious... So crazy.
He's going to have some time to get married in prison he's going to have multiple husbands and he's going to be wearing a wedding dress
Brutally killing a woman you claimed you’re ready to love and protect for the rest of your life just because you can’t be an honest being is a new level of disgustingly evil.
H e explain , he doesn't know what else he can do , plus she start to scream .
@@bartsimpson8616 wtf? Are you trying blame her for what he did?
@@bartsimpson8616he could’ve been honest with her before he beat her with a bat. You’re screaming 🚩🚩🚩 buddy
@@bartsimpson8616 bro, there was so much else he could do, he was just an old sad coward that decided to ruin two lives instead of coming clean.
Reminds me a bit of cases where kids end up killing their parents to avoid getting in trouble for like bad grades or dropping out of school, or blowing money on strippers or drugs. Like, how the human mind can think murdering "loved ones" (as if they are capable of loving anyone) is the preferable solution to just getting yelled at or being a disappointment will never cease to shock me.
How do you as a grown man not "know what else to do" to leave someone you've dated for 3 months? The fact murder was the decision is insane
Yes, and if she really loved him, she would've understood but he didn't even give her a chance. I hope he rots in prison.😡
Obviously he not a grown man mentally. tragic
Huge coward. He didn't want to face the shame of her knowing he lied. And he shouldn't have lied in the first place. It makes no sense. If you lie about huge things right from the beginning of your relationship, the truth will come out eventually. He was so scared of getting embarrassed that he took someone's life. He's pathetic.
He is a SOB for sure
he got divorced a year ago, likely precipitated by the ex because he doesn't know how to get out of anything, had 50k in his 60's and acted like that was rich? He couldn't even retire on that, not buy a house or pay for a wedding or anything, then blew it all within a year anyway.
Apparently he had been a millionaire business owner and lost it all over the years.. what a shock he was unable to manage it
There’s a line from American Horror Story: Cult that always stood out to me and perfectly encapsulates this situation:
“There's nothing more dangerous in this world than a humiliated man.”
Till you encounter a scorned woman
You know how absolutely shitty it is to send a breakup text? Yeah, well... thats still way better than murder. What a tool.
Ya I feel way better about the one I got a few years ago😅.
Didn’t want to tell her incase he lost her. Makes sure he actually loses her forever 🤔
I for one find him a nice respectable guy.
He more than didn't want to lose her he didn't want anybody else to have her
Good thing you're a nobody in this world, lmfao. @@jul1us787
He’s such a sad excuse for a man he let her make him breakfast before viciously bludgeoning her to death. Wow.
At least she got to feel like a real woman… one last time 😔
@@whillboh shut up
@@whillb😂
So so GROSS 🤮
@@whillbwait, what??
My wife and I were married in 1981. We spent a total of about $1,200 (about $3,600 in 2023 dollars) which included our rings, dress, reception, and honeymoon. Her ring barely had a diamond chip on it. My wife and her family and friends did all of the flowers and food. It was a nice wedding with a few hundred people. Our honeymoon consisted of going to a cheap motel near Louisville and going to a movie and dinner. We are still together. What people spend on weddings is crazy.
When i saw the cost of my wedding adding up quickly my husband and I decided to elope and save the money. We spent $3000 on rings, venue, photographer, dress and celebrant. It was quaint and many memories were still made from it.
Love speaks more than money.
Broke mfs lol
The best things in life are free.
@@dennisthegreatestyou sound like a silly sausage.
@@dennisthegreatest screen shot your bank balance, big shot...
The fact that the last week of her life was nothing but being sick and feeling awful, to getting news of having stage 2 colon cancer and feeling even worse beyond comprehension, only to have her life cut extremely short the next morning type sh*t, blows my freaking mind. Like....my god.
And that too by someone she trusted and was wanting to share the rest of her life with. Hope this woman is happy in heaven.
In a self defense class I learned that statistically, a woman’s greatest fear is of being assaulted or killed; a man’s greatest fear is embarrassment or shame. Family annihilators are often motivated by the fear of facing shame for their actions (bankruptcy, affairs, fraud, etc.)
Or being laughed at, that's high on their list.
@@alexacharneythat would fall under embarrassment
@@alexacharney please, no more comments
He even says that he just didn't know what to do. I wonder why he didn't realize that it would be way more "embarrassing" to end up in prison for murder. This is seriously such a strange case mostly because they just met each other!! I have seen family annihilators do this but he barely knew her.
@@jeffreygeorge219 oh leave ‘em alone. Why are people so snarky online? Did it make you feel good? If so, you may want to consider some therapy. 🤦🏽♀️
I would wager that this guy was talking himself up to this poor lady. She most likely wouldn't have asked for a $14,000 ring and an expensive house on the lake while planning a big wedding unless she felt her fiance could afford it. He probably enjoyed acting like he had loads of money and then when the rubber met the road, just couldn't man-up and admit that he was a liar! That's why he did what he did. He put on this grand facade and didn't know how to admit he was a sham. He's simply a liar!!!
Some men do talk themselves up, when they know they're lying, and it really sucks. The loser I just got away from told me he had been a marine, nope never was.
Yup, and always hoping "my next lick pays off to buy me some time...."
@@teresadivilbiss8936I’m sorry. I’m glad you figured it out he was a fraud.😢 How did you find out?
@@teresadivilbiss8936 tell Don Shipley about him. He’s a retired US Navy Seal. He calls out these marine fraud’s who are stealing valor. If you haven’t seen his channel yet I recommend watching a few of those frauds get called out for their lies.
And now he’s a liar and a murderer!!
I love the part where he says thank God I didn’t get Covid. Dude is twisted.
Just be yourself. Never pretend to be something you are not. Never lie because the next lie has to be bigger. Love those you say you love. A courthouse wedding is better than being married to Bubba in cell 2.
Amen
Spoken true
Surprised this comment doesn't have more attention
He didn't kill her because he couldn't pay for the wedding. He did it because he's a full fledged psycho. The wedding excuse just came in handy.
Yeah. Definitely a nut.
Thats the conclusion that I came to too. It just doesn't make any sense whatever way round you look at it. I mean who would choose life in prison over telling your partner that you are broke? NO, something else happened that he is covering up with that weak justification of an excuse. The detective is going along with it as he doesn't mind being lied to as long as he gets his confession.
I’m getting these vibes too
@@hearliestheglobe8423I think he believed she'd leave him. He'd rather her dead than move on...
There's definitely something more to this. Does he have a low IQ or something? He really didn't try to cover up or get away with the crime. So, he chose life in prison over telling this woman he's only known a few months the truth? Makes absolutely no sense.
Pretty sure if given the choice she would have said no marriage as apposed to be brutally murdered with a baseball bat by the man she absolutely adored. Sick
The scariest part is the last thing she experienced before her death is the person she loved the most was killing her
I couldn’t imagine the fear and confusion going through her as she was being hit…. the blanket blocked enough of the bat to make her stay conscious…. Like I wonder how confused she was when it happened and she trusted him totally and completely to cover herself up like that. That would he so crazy to see the last moments.. the pure terror she must’ve felt mixed with confusion. Really sad…….
When they said she had stage 2 colon cancer I broke down how in the hell can you do that to someone that's so heartless. I don't think I ever cried or broke down from any of these interrogations but that just hurt I don't know that's just wrong
I can’t even fathom what was going through this poor woman’s head, as she went from anxious about his “surprise” to fighting for her life. From her OWN damn fiancé!!! Sad, man….
I can't imagine that's how it went down.... from the police just closing the case with that weak confession.. to his no criminal record in 61 years,, bending her license plate up, disappearing for three days, then remorse.. nah, no way... he may be the catalyst... he wasn't alone and planned on making money off this and it went bad imo.
The bat, probably.
@@lance5015How could he have made money from this?
@@smugfrogman4791🤦
yeah, im imagining the sudden realization and horror of what was happening
She was probably so confusingly heartbroken while taking her last breath
I thought that too😢
So heartbreaking😢
Eh, at least she cooked for him and felt like a woman before she died. Blchs aint shlt but hos n trix
@@wiillthebarbertv9415heartbreaking? Lol, what about the viking days or the Mayan, or even the western days?
Wow! 😔
I’m finding it hard to believe that she wanted and expected him to pay for a fancy wedding.
I married my husband after 2 months of dating but I knew there would be no wedding, we were both broke.
I think this guy has a very low self esteem and was leading with his wallet. His own lies manifested those fancy weddings plans to quell his insecurities.
Right but he had talked himself up and told her he was rich. He gave her expensive gifts and she thought he had money and any time she asked he said himself he just agreed. She thought he had loads of money so 15,000 was a low cost for a wedding (that's low anyway, really)
She had her own salon so why would she expect him to pay for it all. This is just his excuse. Spineless man
Sounds about right. He sold her a bunch promises he couldn't keep.
I think this was his "retirement" plan ... he's in his 60s, broke, and now he'll be in jail so no bills, no mortgage, three meals a day .. plus he's big and trained in martial arts, he'll probably be fine in jail
He didn’t even think he would get away with it?! He actually did the math in his head and thought going away for murder would be less humiliating?
Yes Sir..!
🎯
No, he didn't want anyone else to have her. He probably figured he was going away for a long time for tax evasion anyway.
This dude is a whole different level of STUPID , I am so sorry for her family
@@kb1060Yes this was it: he probably thought might as well murder her… as it would save him stress of a tax evasion trial and he is going down anyway for a long time.
This makes me sick. I feel ill. The man buys a bat? A bat? Writes her a rubber check, tells her he has another surprise? Definitely a surprise. Absolute monster. I still cannot believe I just saw this. 🥺
Why are you watching a true crime video if this type of content gives you physical illness?
He is a complete loser...smh goodness dating is scary these days lotta devils out here
People have to see this to know Evil is real. Just because you or I would not do something.....doesn't apply to all.😊
He's a true blue psychopath
Beneath that unassuming soft-spoken demeanor lies evil and rage. He absolutely detested her. He suggested she wanted him for what he could give to her. He hated her for asking him for things. Her not choosing a $1,000 ring but a $15,000 ring was galling enough for him to mention, thus why he plotted revenge and told her after he'd had enough that he had another "surprise" for her before brutalizing her. He hated that he was broke and likely felt worthless claiming he once was a millionaire, and he hated her for wanting expensive things from him. He just can't say that because he prefers to come across as a victim helpless to and overtaken by some unknown force rather than the vile rage-filled monster that he is. He premeditated but spoke like it was unforeseen. I'm not buying the act - he's about as gentle as Jeffrey Dahmer.
I agree, choking someone while you're looking them in the eye? He was definitely filled with anger and rage.
So sad she came across a psychopathic madman and had no clue. I feel so bad for her and her family and loved ones.
Over 50 and with stage 2 colon cancer and owns her own business. She might have been super disappointed if you told her soon after meeting that you were broke, but likely would have stayed anyway. She was obviously looking for someone to love and care for her.
Poor woman. She seemed so full of hope and kindness.
Poor woman. She just needed someone to be there for her. This man is going straight to hell.
He wasn’t actually broke,he just didn’t have as much as he used to have.3 months after meeting was too soon,anyway.He could have said he wanted to wait a while,and they’d marry when they’d saved some more.Poor lady,she must have been so excited.It’s so sad.
"She was obviously looking for someone to love and care for her." And buy her a $14,000 ring. And a house on the lake.
@@eh-i1841he didn't pay his taxes for 16 years. He wasn't just a little broke. He was more than just a little broke.
This sad story begins just like so many other stories....
With a trip to wal-mart
That Walmart murder item aisle keeps getting bigger and bigger let’s hope they don’t do any Black Friday deals on the items😮
Ha. This.
@karenhill5925 maybe Wal mart should have a aisle that only has
Bleach
Zip ties
Ball bats
Hammers
Large plastic bags
Large plastic containers
Duct tape
Goggles
Chain saws
Hacksaw
Burner phones
Face masks
Painting tarps
Rolls of plastic
And trail mix
Save a few cents and lose your life.
Right...Almost always Walmart comes into the picture.
That was sooo disgusting just listening to him! Never again in my life will I even close my eyes when someone says they “have a surprise for me!”
That was one of the first things I said to myself ill never ever close my eyes for a suprise again
chilling
Wow! He's being completely honest with the detectives.
If he could have just been honest with his girlfriend, none of this would have happened.
How senseless.
This guy is classic. He knew if he told her she was gone and he wasn’t letting anyone else have her. He knew she was out of his league from day one. Jerk.
She wouldn’t of necessarily left she could’ve actually loved him he just never gave her the chance. And he also could’ve been a normal person been honest and found a way to earn the money.
What's worse, we don't know if she would have left him. Sure she would be upset, because he lied about something big their entire relationship. He didn't let her make the choice to stay or leave. He was too big of a coward to be honest to the woman he supposedly loved.
@@TheRingu.he believed she would leave and that's all that matters.
This man is a pathetic coward. It’s easier to bludgeon your girlfriend, rather than face the music, and tell the truth! It really chills the blood to think of that scene where this poor woman was standing with a blanket over her head trying to figure out what this guy was going to give her.
I guess he didn't know what else to do!!!!
This detective is an incredible interviewer. He does an excellent job at keeping his own responses/questions to a minimum & just letting this man talk to fill the silence. Then his repeating certain parts of the story, the way he says "now tell me again, im getting up in age too & i forget these things" he actually sounds believable, while some do NOT while using this technique. Hes very respectful & really does a good job at sounding empathetic which we can see causes him to open up even more, hes throwing in details that are totally unnecessary but dig his grave deeper & deeper.
“…I’m 61 years old, I mean, I might as well just tell the truth.” Why couldn’t he have come to that conclusion before he murdered her?!
He sounds remorseful on the surface and describes all of the nice things he did for her previously but beneath the details, he sounds resentful of how much it all cost. He expresses sympathy for her family, but never for her.
Jerry Udum defense: To the world, id rather be known as a sociopathic murderer than a man who is financially in hardship at the moment...
Not to mention, he had over $2,000 in the bank at the time, most normal people would be happy with $2k in their bank and a partner who runs their own business
Almost like bs huh?
Now he is known as both a psychotic murderer and a brokie. 🧿
Lol she wasn't going to stay with him after she (hypothetically, obviously he killed her first) discovered his true financial problems. Did you see him? She was better looking and likely only looked his way because he was showering her with gifts and pretending he could give her some amazing life of luxury.
Ok, I don't want a husband, I don't want a boyfriend, I don't even know if I can trust my cat now, everybody losing their damn minds!
@newsing33
@newsing33I wish you knew me I don't want to wife I don't want a girlfriend real friendship is the real deal and then it grows sometimes but if you can't be 100% honest with the person you're laying down next to you're f***** up I don't mean you but I bet you can trust your cat I wish you know me I have a lot of love to give it took me some York years to learn but I had to become my own best friend then I could be somebody else's
You know damn well you can't trust that cat. :D
I have cats and yeah, be careful!
@@Julie-sw8xv 😂
@@alexacharney 😂
It's chilling how calmly he's able to give details.
Huge props to the questioning detective. Even sitting right across from a monster telling his story with no remorse, he kept this SOB on track, making sure he had all the details all while keeping a cool head and throwing in lighthearted remarks to keep the suspect comfortable and spilling. He is Truth Serum in a humans body.
This is insane and unreal, who cares if you didn’t get COVID you killed this woman because of your pride & ego
😂 I thought the same ! He had to tell them he tested negative. Like wut?
@@bettywhite6672
He's a passive aggressive cowardly clown, what do we expect!
He has no regret at all!! This was premeditated murder and he has no remorse 😢
Yes. What an absurd thing to say.
I was really struck by that statement too.
THIS IS THE MOST INSANE THING! He covered his girlfriend with a blanket and beat her to death rather than ghosting her? Dude…… it was serious but it definitely wasn’t THAT serious….
He literally ghosted her.
@@southern_fryd ohhhhhh dark 😖 but yeah….
White sheet with eye holes.
THREE MONTHS. It truly wasn't that serious...
He’s so chill as he tells the facts … definitely a psycho
It is almost more scary when people don’t have warning signs… no previous crimes and I have no doubt friends neighbors and family thought he was a decent man. Then to out of nowhere with no warning signs commit a murder this heinous…. So bone chilling.
He'd only been divorced for a year. I think he despised his ex wife but didn't have the balls to lash out at her, so he picked an innocent and unsuspecting victim to bamboozle and take out his frustration on.
An awful thought but you could very well be right.
Being single for over 4 years doesn't seem too bad right now. As a single mom I stay that way because there's too many unstable people.
you should choose me :P just kidding :)
True dat girl I've been single for over 2 years there are definitely too many crazy people out here and I've come across a few when I used to date and it just made me want to stay single forever
@@AprilReid-yk9ehI’m much happier being single than I ever was in a relationship.
@@MCM1965that is sad in a way don’t you think? It maybe cool now but eventually you will be lonely imho.
You just haven’t found the right partner.. keyword partner as life partner. You will have good years and bad years but if you’re 100% committed and both people can honestly say they would never leave you can have the best relationship ever.
Murderers are almost always raised by single mothers lol
Wow, just tell her you lost your finances. Dumbest excuse ever,”I was scared I’d lose her if I told her so I decided to kill her.” Like what ?!
Yea right, did he think he could keep her dead.
@@dman7175for people like this it’s more the idea of someone else having them, which is intolerable to them .
The way he casually admits that he couldn't afford the wedding to his wife so he decided to hit her with a baseball bat and kill her, as if he was explaining that he didn't have eggs to make breakfast so he had a bowl of cereal instead. He even seems to laugh a little when he says "I couldn't afford it". This guy is deranged.
The darkness that some people embrace is mind boggling.
He thinks it's best to "get things off his chest", but wouldn't tell the love of his life the truth.
That bit confused me a little bit too, like wtf? 🤔🤷
Nothing more dangerous than a desperate man that has nothing else to lose.
That only applies to men with bottom of the barrel intelligence.
He lost his freedom, for life.
Anyone who acts like “having money” is their entire identity or reason for living has a very damaged soul already. He could have been honest with her- maybe she woulda said she didn’t care, and they could have done a quickie marriage at the courthouse instead, and faced life’s challenges together. Then again maybe she would have gotten mad and left- which would have shown him that she was there for the wrong reasons anyway. The real issue here is that his ego was tied to his financial success, so when he lost that, he chose to go the darkest route possible and self destruct. Now a woman who had family and good life is dead because she fell prey to his lies. May God protect her innocent soul. As the Bible tells us, “the love of money is the root of all of kinds of evils.” 1 Tim 6:10
She was desperate too. She wanted to get married so badly besides other things. Sad.
@@sinatra222 I think prison was his retirement plan
He seems like such a nice, polite man. So sad that he chose violence as his way to get out of the lies he'd be telling. Just sad for everyone, especially the girlfriend and her family.
Nice, polite man??? Are you kidding? He was a liar, pretending he was rich to seem big, successful, something he wasn't, throwing money around he didn't have to try impress her, to make himself feel good, not to spoil her or treat her well, to make himself feel good and important. She wouldn't have picked a 14, 000 dollars ring if he hadn't pretended he was rich FFS. That's not a nice polite man's actions. His ego wouldn't allow him to own up to being broke, he liked to pretend he was something he wasn't, that isn't what a nice, polite man does. A nice polite man wouldn't have let her think he was rich. Wouldn't have lied about who, what he was. A nice polite man wouldn't have bought a baseball bat days before for one sole reason, to use it on her. It wasn't even a spare of the moment act of anger or rage, he couldn't face feeling belittled and a liar, not being the man he told her he was. That isn't nice or polite. He was nothing of the sort. He fooled her into thinking he was rich. Overspent on things to keep up with that lie. Nice polite men don't do that. You are a terrible judge of people if you think he was such a nice, polite man. Nothing of the sort. Saying please and thank you and talking like a good ol' boy doesn't make somebody nice and polite. Guys an utter psycho freak FFS. Being well spoken does not make someone nice and polite. Don't ever do jury duty please, you will probably allow some mass murderer to go free because they talk like a good ol' southern boy. Geezuz 🤷 how could such a well spoken gentleman ever be guilty of such depraved cold hearted actions, on a trusting helpless woman who loves him. He pretended to be rich. He liked feeling successful it boosted his narcissist ego to have her believe his lies. Nice polite men don't do that. Wise up, silliest comment I've read. You probably believe anybody who attends church or quotes the bible is unquestionably nice and polite too don't you, couldn't possibly be guilty of anything, they attend church after all🤷🤔🤡
Shame is a powerful emotion.
He DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO??
How about telling her the TRUTH?? What a poor excuse for a man .
Human being***
This is one of the craziest murders based solely on just telling her the truth or going through a breakup. I think he just wanted to murder somebody....evil
Yeah bro a ticking time bomb
Three months!? Holy crap...you gotta be lonely as hell or deep into the dopamine to start thinking about marriage at 3 months! Hopefully most people know about the chemical rush that occurs when you first start dating someone, it's akin to doing heroin. It doesn't last but helps with the early bonding process. If you can feel affection after about 6 months you might have something real, after the rose colored glasses come off.
The self control that detective has is amazing to sit there for that long listening to him calmly talk about how he killed that poor woman, like he's residing a movie.
He ex-wife really dodged a bat
Wow. This is so extremely sad. How did the world get so far gone that people think the ONLY option is murder
I mean the world has always been this way but I get what you mean
Facts 😢
Democrats, mostly
Not people - MEN
@@horsefly4400 really what political party constantly kills the other. What political party brings automatic weapons to their rally’s. What political part tried to overthrow our government after 250 years of peaceful transition of power.
Hes more open about speaking freely than most.
A few days earlier he was worried about her Covid symptoms.
Something just isn’t right in the head 😮
This kind of psychotic thought process is similar to the other guy that killed his whole family because he couldn't handle telling his family the truth of their financial situation and feeling ashamed, so he killed them instead to protect his image. It's absolutely psychotic behaviour but it seems these psychos share this trait, it's just extreme narcissism to take someone's life over ruining your image. What a piece of trash.
They rather see the world burn
Who was that guy?
@@hazeleyes449John List. He went and started a new family and was a fugitive for 18 years before Americas Most Wanted aired an episode of him. They used old photographs and had a forensic sculptor create a bust of what he believed he looked like all those years later and he was immediately recognized and caught.
Both family annihilators and those who perform so-called "honor killings" have the same perspective. "I'd rather kill than live with embarrassment of having lost control in my life." To those people, their victims are just an extension of themselves.
And it’s counterintuitive in the end, bc they’re not even protecting their image. Everyone knows he’s a broke murderer now, just not her.
I know the detectives have to do what they have to do for a confession but the respect they show the criminals is enough to make me sick ! What a MONSTER, pure evil !
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It’s absolutely crazy that he murdered her for that reason. I really think he did it because he was broke, in debt and financial ruin, so life in prison seemed better to him than living penniless in the world. Poor woman.
I don't believe his reason whatsoever I think he just didn't want her to know he was a liar and wanted to murder a woman for fun.
Interesting thought
He didn’t want her telling others that he had made financial mistakes and was broke.
Same- hadn’t paid taxes in 16 years???? That says a whole lot about him.
He was afraid he’d lose her but HELLO, now he has lost her for sure and stole her life from her and everyone who loved her. Not to mention his life is over? The poor dog that he was concerned enough about to take for a ride and so forth is without its owner. How can anyone be this dumb, crazy, and just evil? I know that sometimes women can be demanding but if you’re going to marry someone you must be honest and lay it out. If there is love then you figure it out together. This is just the craziest ridiculousness.
They didn't even know one another. She was in love with love and a fantasy. He is gutless and couldn't be honest about where he is in life.
If he can’t have her, then no one can. Under a guise or not, he only cared bout how he was perceived, but obviously didn’t look into what the future would be like after the murder.
I believe there's more to his stupid bs story.
I read a bit more online.
I think that HE is the one who mentioned marriage, not her.
I think that he bragged about his fortune, only omitting that he'd lost it. I bet he talked about being successful and about his successful brothers, the dentist and the deceased criminal lawyer.
I think that when he found out that she had cancer, he may have said he'd be there for her.
She may have misunderstood him,
or, he actually proposed.
There is no way this successful business woman would just drag this guy to buy a
$14,000.00 ring out of the blue.
I also think that he's wondered/thought about murdering someone for a looong time.
Now, having dug himself in hole with his lies to Vickie, having no assets, no money, nothing, at 61, he may have thought I can kill someone and if I end up in prison I'll have free housing, free medical & dental, free food, free clothes, free everything & no more worries.
I think he's a heinous lying coward. I hope he rots.
May Vickie rest peacefully.
Be safe out there!
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He said “I couldn’t get out of it, I didn’t know what to do”. How about breaking up and moving on with your life ? This is absolutely insane that he rather spend the rest of his life in jail rather than being honest with her.
I recently met a guy like this…just couldn’t say no to people because he always wanted to be liked and not disappoint people. But this is to the extreme. People have to stop trying to be something they are not to be accepted and well thought of. This is what it gets you.
He just beat her head and killed another human being and he said I was fortunate I didn't get covid I think this dude thinks he's going home at the end of the day
You know if you kill her, that will ALSO end the relationship, right?! Either way, his plans end w/ her NOT in your life anymore! I wonder if any of y’all have counted how many times he has repeated “I didn’t know what to do” in this video? He’s totally drilling it into these cop’s heads that he just didn’t know what to do & that’s why, do stop asking me why. 😂
I think he DID know what to do, and I think it was this. He put enough thought into it that he wanted to cover it up- he knew a gun would be too loud, & he thought a few other things through. To reiterate my other comment😂 (sorry) this motive just is not adding up for me. It’s ridiculous.
Quite a few murderers kill those they claim to love when their facade is about to end. As in the Murdaugh murders. Its warped logic
Right? It's like girls have only ever broken up with him and he didn't want to be with her but didn't know how to break up with her... it can't be for $, he would have married her 1st and get life insurance.
Was he just bored? I don't understand the reasoning because his words aren't making sense to me.
What he meant to say was, "I didn't know how else to save face from my failure." Dead gf means sympathy & secret saved. Live gf means ex-gf and embarassment.
This is true Narcissism. He would rather murder her than admit his lies.
I'm with you. I don't buy his stated motive. I think the shame of being broke had feeling like his life was over anyway so why not explore his dark side?
That is the most ridiculous motive, what a selfish monster
I've watched many crime documentarys with horrific acts of violence towards family members, but this one stands out as particularly sickening for the fact he made it look like a surprise and put a blanket over her head, very sad. Poor women 😢
This monster should of been honest with her whether he'd lose her or not!! What an insane poor excuse to kill her!! Psychopathic coward!!
Easily the calmest, most level headed interrogator I have seen in these types of videos. As for the excuse this guy gave... It's shit. I feel like equal punishment would be warranted
I know!! I can't imagine what was going through that girl's mind when he started hitting her.. What a creep!! 🤨
The detective didn't have a reason to not be calm. The murderer easily answers all the questions and doesn't try to lie his way out.
He’s not really giving excuses…he’s just describing it matter of factly and his reasons don’t make sense to anyone else.
I think of excuses as being a way to deflect responsibility for doing something obviously wrong - like “it was self defence she pulled a knife on me” or “I blacked out and don’t remember….”
I agree
Detectives are really good at playing it really cool and keeping it nonchalant when you're giving them all the information that they want
Watching true crime makes you count your blessings. Every time I see a woman angry because she was dumped over text or left at the alter or divorced so the man can marry the other woman I’m happy for her that it didn’t turn out much worse. 😆
I really hope he NEVER get's out of prison!!!!!!
As soon as she started mentioning the prices of the ring, the home, the wedding after 4 monthd, I would of ended it.
I don't know the story but sometimes a guy's brain gets sucked out of his head if you know what I mean he can't think straight
@@artjohnLagas-gk6mg I agree
You're only hearing one side of their relationship and conversations. He somehow made her believe that he could afford all of those things and she was planning their future together. He murdered her because he was a coward.
Women complain that men only want thing, but women want it all. They always want to ruin a good thing by involving marriage.
@@naomi.7777agreed, I haven’t finished watching it yet but I’ll guarantee this prick was the one to propose. I’m not buying this interview and his pathetic demeanor, he’s a psychopath.
You have a great voice for this genre.
“I have another surprise for you”. That is the most vile thingI have ever heard. I’m sick.
Imagine the shock when she realized what was happening😮
Oh that just pisses me off but more than that it’s just deep sadness. Like wtf do people do this sh¡t? Something about her feeling like she was on the verge of her dreams coming true and just happy…and this cowardly little b¡tch couldn’t handle disappointment from a woman and was more comfortable with being a killer? Like my eyes tear up just thinking about luring someone I love into that trap. I would find the strength to just kill myself instead of ruining someone’s head that their parents had made and watched grow 😥
It's horrifying.. 😢
I know, right?! Damn….
Horrible
I couldn’t even imagine what went through her mind
Hope the police check into this guy's past to see if there are any other mysterious deaths of women in his vicinity. Killing someone because you can't afford a wedding sounds like a ritual; possibly a serial killer.
He was only sentenced to life in prison with a chance at parole.
Not just women! Maybe he didnt have money to tip a waiter and done him in behind the restaurant
Good point. @@NickMeisher
Yeah he’s done this before
How in the hell is noone else thinking this like comon what a bad reason to kill a stranger basically id put money on this was his thing he got off too
Internet detectives think they know everything
The fact that telling the truth and LEAVING wasn’t his first thought is crazyyy to me 😭 I hope her spirit is well
What an absolutely ridiculous motive for murder. He continues to say I didn’t know what to do; it was the only way out!! How about telling her the truth? Wow!!!
he’s so nonchalant about this, it’s like he’s thought about doing this long ago.
He seems in shock to me.
16:35 they jumping all over themselves to get him some water. They love when you confess😆😆
the officer is amazing.. keeping so calm and understanding while hearing this horror story. kudos to him for knowing if he came off as shocked or judgmental jerry would likely clam up. great job Officer!
All your life, you’ve lived a normal life. And now you’re in jail for the rest of that life because you didn’t have the balls to tell her you couldn’t afford a wedding 😩 sounds like he had those intrusive thoughts for a while.
Yeah and I also think going from a millionaire business/ real estate owner to only have $2k left in the bank at 50-60 years old and then having this lie being called out about not having $15,000… maybe he did it so his whole life would change. It was his way out.
I think this was his way, of imploding his life and giving up but he didn't want Her to ever have any knowledge, of just how flimsy and fake, he was.
I think he's a psychopath with no emotional attachment, to any living thing and he's been thinking weird shit, the whole time trying to keep up a sense, of normality..
- the bottom started to fall out and he figured hed finally get to beat someone to death and she'd never know him and Worse, move on maybe.
Idk if that's it.. might be.. his story absolutely makes no sense.. the dets are... case closed.. no way imo.
He said he hasn't paid taxes in 16 years. He's been a con for a long time! The IRS was probably catching up with him and he didn't have anything to lose
Those aren't intrusive thoughts. They were just thoughts.
I don't believe he was going to tell anybody..until the brother came along
he's so open and honest (to the police) for someone who is only being interrogated by the police because he couldn't be open and honest (to this girlfriend)
This story is awesome
Marriage license: $40 fee
Justice Of Peace: $75 fee(with tip)
What an indignant monster!
So you tip public officials and civil servants in America then.
wow..... speaks so calmly, so polite to officers, but strangely crazy!
The fact that he did this knowing he was going to get caught, had no intention in covering it up or placing the blame on anyone else (not that they would believe it) almost makes this entire case even more insulting...if that makes sense
Guy was really like:
Wedding: $15,000
Baseball Bat: $15
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He’s just an evil monster human being because all he has to do was call it off . Killing her because she wanted an expensive wedding is BS you were a liar from the beginning of your relationship and I bet she didn’t care about a big wedding. I feel if they got married he would have killed her after getting a life insurance on her. That’s why I’m not dating after I got divorced and have custody of our daughter. Then the manner he murdered her. He doesn’t show any emotions .
@@Dinosaurchickin to be honest I met people before but I’ve a non verbal disabled daughter that I don’t want to take a risk. If she could be independent I would. Thanks for replying 🙏.
@@DinosaurchickinIt's happening more often than you know. Women are afraid to meet men because every day we see 10 stories about men killing women on UA-cam. A lot of them are doing it for financial gain. Even the ones who didn't exhibit any red flags....and have been married for a while are in these stories, too.
Not everyone is like him. To deny yourself a future relationship because of worrying that all men are bastards is just wrong. We aren't. Most are perfectly normal and loving. I get you may be scarred by previous relationships but not all men are bad or intent on hurting anybody least of all somebody they love or care about. Sorry but your fear is irrational and may rub off on your child. It's not healthy to hold such views. Being careful about relationships is a much better attitude than simply avoiding them completely. The odd bad apple doesn't mean every apple is bad. Better to love and be loved than to never love at all because of an irrational fear. Good far far outweighs evil. One bad choice doesn't mean every choice is going to be bad. 🤔👍
“I had no way out of it. I didn’t know what else to do.” He saw violence as a solution and I’d bet he was raised to think violence was a solution.
I like how he said "fortunately I didn't get it." Expecting a reaction from the detectives and they just say "okay" 😂
“Hey baby, I gotta another surprise for you”…. What a pos, coward….
The only positive thing I can say about this man is that he confessed.