Unmasking One's Agony: The Story of Roland

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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @MetiNotTheBadGuy
    @MetiNotTheBadGuy  Рік тому +833

    You might have noticed a awkward cut around 1:14:20, this was due to UA-cam claiming the video during a lyrical analysis of Gone Angels. I was doing something akin to my Metal Gear Rising videos, but due to Project Mili's songs be part of an album, they are not as open to video usage as MGR's ost. Apologizes for having to cut that segment as I couldn't find a proper way to replace it!

    • @aidenrichardson6439
      @aidenrichardson6439 Рік тому +8

      1:14-1:39 what’s the tf2 video called?

    • @Tigershark5639
      @Tigershark5639 Рік тому +26

      dang that sucks the songs really good and the lyrics are really fitting to rolands story

    • @thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong
      @thisgoddamusernamestoodamnlong Рік тому +21

      Thanks for letting me know the lore of the fucker that always kicks my ass in YOMI Hustle.

    • @luke1989
      @luke1989 Рік тому +3

      ​@@aidenrichardson6439Meet the Sandvich

    • @aidenrichardson6439
      @aidenrichardson6439 Рік тому +1

      @@luke1989thank you

  • @MegaBichiX
    @MegaBichiX Рік тому +3376

    a cool little detail is that Roland asks Angela MULTIPLE TIMES if she feels any regret, ANY AT ALL. Almost begging her to say she was slightly sorry for what she did so that he wouldn't have to go on with his plans of vengeance. Unfortunately, the bitter machine never did, loudly exclaiming how she did nothing wrong, how she regretted nothing, and how her pain absolved her of any posible consequences of her actions, leaving Roland forced, although begrudgingly, to continue with his revenge

    • @zsaber2318
      @zsaber2318 Рік тому +182

      I just love that little detail

    • @LongNguyen-cz5ty
      @LongNguyen-cz5ty Рік тому +493

      He did say that if she could pick another option, maybe he could do that too. Just love how PM built up the tesion for a fight with a grade 9 fixer.

    • @mrrp405
      @mrrp405 Рік тому +466

      One of my favorite scenes was him finding out she was the cause of the distortions, and his tone changes entirely, to something much more grim, just for one line. It’s almost unnoticeable on a first playthrough and definitely would be impossible to detect without the awesome voice acting and directing.

    • @revanf3719
      @revanf3719 Рік тому +201

      ​@@mrrp405the sheer amount of foreshadowing to everything is insane

    • @troljynx9953
      @troljynx9953 Рік тому

      What was the line ?
      @@mrrp405

  • @ViverraZibetha
    @ViverraZibetha Рік тому +1823

    Actually, one small detail:
    Angelica most likely became a color fixer AFTER she started working with Roland.
    Moreover, they were most likely known as Black Silence for their work together - Angelica simply got all of the credit due to the effect of Roland's mask.
    As an indirect confirmation, there're two hands on the Black Silence emblem - one is clenched into a fist with a pulse reading, symbolizing Roland, and other is relaxed and has flat pulse reading, symbolizing deceased Angelica.

    • @MetiNotTheBadGuy
      @MetiNotTheBadGuy  Рік тому +567

      I believe the logo of Black Silence was described in the art book as being a representation of the silencing effects of the gloves. Though I do like your reading of the symbol though. I also agree she likely became a Color after BRN but its not entirely clear if she was or wasn't one yet.

    • @MegaBichiX
      @MegaBichiX Рік тому +274

      @@MetiNotTheBadGuy PM usually likes to play with double meanings, like with the logo of the purple tear having a literal "crying tear" as a symbol but having her ability be "a tear in space", so I can totally see the death flatline glove being intentional for the double reading aswell

    • @swracing2402
      @swracing2402 Рік тому +60

      I think its a super plausible theory, and its deliberately been left up to interpretation; as stated in the artbook

    • @somedouchemcbag987
      @somedouchemcbag987 Рік тому +148

      @@MegaBichiX This doesn`t have to do with anything relavant, but I find it funny how all colored fixers have their own symbols that are interesting. And then there`s Kali with her literally just writing "Red Mist"

    • @MegaBichiX
      @MegaBichiX Рік тому +163

      @@somedouchemcbag987 Kali is Illiterate, her symbol is Carmen's handwriting

  • @steamtasticvagabond474
    @steamtasticvagabond474 Рік тому +870

    58:47 I thought it was obvious how the birds connect to Roland’s story. Each of the birds represent an aspect of the law. Big bird with his many watchful eyes is the jury, Long Bird with his crooked scales is the judge, and Little Bird with his beak that could devour anything is the executioner.
    The three birds combine into the monster known as apocalypse bird.
    When Roland snapped and went on his rampage through the city, he was taking the law into his own hands. He became the judge, the jury, and the executioner.
    He became the apocalypse bird.

    • @elliotepegs7369
      @elliotepegs7369 Рік тому +30

      Theres a ego of him bzing it

    • @dukenintendo
      @dukenintendo 10 місяців тому +102

      Big Bird, using it's many eyes to make the list.
      Judgement Bird, using it's scales to judge those on that list.
      Punishing Bird, Punishing the City for his pain.

    • @Puffman728
      @Puffman728 10 місяців тому +94

      Its even more fitting that Binah is the one to fight him in that state, since she's a former arbiter of the Head, and the three birds also represent the three main powers that rule over the city. Big bird is the Beholder watching over everyone, Judgement bird is the Arbiter deciding what is right or wrong within the city, and Punishing Bird is the Claw tasked with swiftly destroying those who commit any wrongdoings.

    • @steamtasticvagabond474
      @steamtasticvagabond474 10 місяців тому +30

      @@Puffman728 cop on cop violence

    • @NeoAya
      @NeoAya 8 місяців тому +22

      The Judge, Jury and Executioner motif of the Bird Trio is more so something they represent in general, that and the self fulfilling prophecy of them becoming the beast that lives in the dark forest symbolising the cycle of revenge perpetuated by the city

  • @moldinmolders
    @moldinmolders Рік тому +571

    its worth noting that in the roland distortion fight, depending on the floor you use, it implies roland had slaughtered entire floors before the floor you picked confront him. the assistant librarians have unique dialogue for this.

    • @olixx1213
      @olixx1213 Рік тому +16

      Isn't that when you only have one floor left ?

    • @moldinmolders
      @moldinmolders Рік тому +125

      @@olixx1213 nope. Its dependent on what floor you use, though it does create a continuity issue if you say, use hokma, but then malkuth.

    • @olixx1213
      @olixx1213 Рік тому

      @@moldinmoldersmake sense lorewise ig
      He's literally rampaging his way through to get to angela

    • @user-yv1be3yz7v
      @user-yv1be3yz7v 11 місяців тому +77

      Idk about english but in Korean, first comment is right. Every floor has unique dialogue and if you use last(3rd) floor, they say there is no other floor and here is last stand

    • @moldinmolders
      @moldinmolders 11 місяців тому

      @@user-yv1be3yz7v true, it might be different in korean. Go to the library of ruina wiki for the black silence fight, and itll show you each floors unique lines for fighting him, and as I said, the assistant librarians bring up being some of the last left towards the end.(though some of the earlier floors still wonder if they're they're the last ones standing, so you might be right in completeness)

  • @Emperor-Quill
    @Emperor-Quill Рік тому +295

    I love how you pointed out how Roland is, essentially, a mask that mirrors the world around him. He hates the City, yet reflects it, imitates the violence, continues the cycle.
    Roland is a man who mirrored the things around him, and everything he saw was vile, grim, and twisted.
    Toward the end, he witnessed Angela CHOOSE to give up everything she'd ever suffered for, and he, in turn, reflected this free will, and chose to do the same.
    His great final action was one of his total choice, but was awakened by one of Roland's "survival tools", of reflecting a self that wasn't his own. It went against the self-serving nature that he usually used it for, and that makes it so much more powerful.
    Great video!
    Roland, as one of the two primary protagonists of LoR, has some incredibly intricate lore, and I'm happy to see it discussed! PM's writing never ceases to amaze me!
    Well!
    I'm loving the recent character study style of videos regarding Project Moon characters!
    For anyone seeking another well-crafted video like this one, but regarding LoR's other main protagonist, Angela, please consider viewing the video "Project Moon's Most Beautifully Written Character: An Introspective of Angela" by the user, "hydrojoy".
    The recommended video delves into Angela's side of the story, her own growth, and it's truly lovely! Highly recommended to watch it alongside this one!

    • @theresnothinghere1745
      @theresnothinghere1745 Рік тому +13

      Its really one of the better recurring motifs of the game.
      The city is often described in terms of being as a sea where its waves carry the residents (Chesed's floor symbolises this).
      Or a giant machine that places each person as a cog (Yesod's floor).
      Roland stands as the prime example of the disease of the mind suffering and propogating the issues of the city and his actions show it.
      Despite his despise for the city all he does throughout the game is contribute to it because he's lost all his desires and ends up pursing a revenge he doesn't even want, in the same vein the disease of the mind reduces people to just living for the sake of not dying.
      The best line that shows this subtly is when Roland tells Chesed something to the effect of him getting tired of swimming against the city's currents and just letting himself ride the wave.
      All the while implying he became another particle of water enforcing the waves of the sea across anything trying to swim.
      But of course at that stage he was deep into the 'this is this, and that is that' mentaility so the implication is lost on him.

    • @willvan7685
      @willvan7685 Рік тому +4

      I also believe that a popular fanon interpretation of an original color-fixer Roland (that being the 'White Noise') has his signature mask replaced by a simple, circular one-way mirror.

    • @eee1453
      @eee1453 11 місяців тому

      And that’s what the Pinocchio abno is all about!

    • @twotwo108
      @twotwo108 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@theresnothinghere1745 its beautiful how they are considered an impurity as they do not fit into the perpetuating cycle of pain and suffering the head approves of, and may bring about cascading changes that will shake the version of the city the head tried to maintain

    • @theresnothinghere1745
      @theresnothinghere1745 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@twotwo108 There's more to the head than that as I see it.
      The head doesn't insult Angela for her development, they congratulate her for it.
      They say that in rejecting her need to be human she's the prime example the people of the city need to strive to be.
      From those lines it seems to me as if the heads cycle of suffering is meant to be escaped that is what they want people to do.
      However the head is ideologially opposed to this change stemming from a machine for some reason.

  • @jellybunny7013
    @jellybunny7013 Рік тому +291

    This was a fantastic video on one of my favorite characters in fiction, and as a ProjectMoon fan myself, its nice to see someone go in-depth on the many nuances and details that are put into this game.
    One thing I'd like to add and briefly paraphrasing Last Minute Essay's Overview of Project Moon work that he brought up:
    The artwork for The Black Silence Reception is the gloves worn by Angelica and eventually Roland, with one being clenched in anger, and the other limp and open. A Heartbeat runs through the clenched hand and flatlines at the open one. if both hands were open or closed, it would form a perfect heart, but the hands as they are now, only show heartbreak.

    • @AquaticLotus7552
      @AquaticLotus7552 Рік тому +21

      Holy cow that is peak graphic design

    • @Water_Connoisseur
      @Water_Connoisseur Рік тому +37

      ​@@AquaticLotus7552this game is just peak fiction, there's not enough videos to truly drill into one's brain how many nuances there are and all the symbolism and character interactions

  • @StaryExtra
    @StaryExtra Рік тому +773

    The Orphanage thanks Snake Lady, Meti.
    The Orphanage thanks her. And Vergilius Thanks Snake Lady too.

    • @RotisserieBreadBank
      @RotisserieBreadBank Рік тому +48

      yep all the orphans love our residential Snake granny. ♥ so resourceful

    • @enkeiie
      @enkeiie Рік тому +6

      Then why does the snake lady want manager dead? @@RotisserieBreadBank

    • @LeGuardImperialis
      @LeGuardImperialis 6 місяців тому +5

      @@RotisserieBreadBank Our orphans do love her
      Now they get to see their parents!

    • @Franz0818
      @Franz0818 5 місяців тому +3

      @@enkeiiea cougar will be a cougar.

    • @orangesillyofficial
      @orangesillyofficial 6 днів тому

      the orphanage *loves* vergilius and iori's services

  • @aqualucasYT
    @aqualucasYT Рік тому +739

    A LIBRARY OF RUINA VIDEO LETS GO

    • @user-ke6pc3zu2p
      @user-ke6pc3zu2p Рік тому +10

      *Library of Roonya

    • @ReRoji
      @ReRoji Рік тому +4

      As a huge library of ruina fan, I am very excited to watch this video.

    • @somepvpguy69
      @somepvpguy69 Рік тому

      ​@@user-ke6pc3zu2plarngary for tubular*

    • @Stryfe52
      @Stryfe52 Рік тому

      He’d teased it for months, and finally it has arrived

  • @lizzzbenoist
    @lizzzbenoist Рік тому +432

    I think in Geburah's Realization, the Smiling Bodies form is probably just a reference to the amount of people he slaughtered both in the Smoke War and after the Pianist incident, and furthermore, it could also represent how at a certain point, he relished in the carnage he caused, becoming more and more unstoppable, desperate and furious with each killing, just like how Smiling Bodies feeds on corpses and becomes stronger the more it consumes.

    • @cirospedale7511
      @cirospedale7511 Рік тому +59

      Honestly MoSB reflects what Roland saw from the old L Corp's Singularity, what he sees the city as and what he ultimately sees himself as. An ugly thing that thrives on pain and suffering by its own nature, and needs it to keep existing. That's also why I think his distorted form is related to the old L Corp's Singularity.

    • @lizzzbenoist
      @lizzzbenoist Рік тому +25

      ​@@cirospedale7511Good point. In my theory I kinda tried to tie it more to the theme of Geburah's Realization, that being Roland's Fixer Life. Tho it is undeniable that Smiling Bodies and the smoke creature thing from the old L Corp do look very similar.

    • @chaineddepths9523
      @chaineddepths9523 11 місяців тому +16

      ​@@cirospedale7511 He's very much resonating with all the people he's killed and how he created a mountian of bodies.
      "The further back into the past I tried to go, the taller the mountain got… Until it blocked my sight"
      "I won’t remember your faces… But you will remember mine…"
      He was thinking about all the people he killed on his rampage and anger

    • @justafurry9400
      @justafurry9400 10 місяців тому +13

      Even the librarians on the realization, one of them says "How many did he kill?"
      So it's probably that, the representation about all the corpses he has left during his rampage.

    • @yunochanishere8616
      @yunochanishere8616 2 місяці тому +1

      If I pack my knowledge of Gebura Realization, here are the abnormalities that represents his past
      Little Red Riding Hooded Mercenary - Blinded Rage
      The Big and Will be Bad Wolf - Killing Spree
      Mountain of Smiling Bodies - Pile of Bodies he slained
      Nothing There - Mindless Slaughter, pointing his blade randomly without thinking

  • @NoRegs30
    @NoRegs30 Рік тому +710

    “Iori is the true mastermind behind Ruina”
    Voice of the library: “and I took that personally”

    • @Goddess_of_trash
      @Goddess_of_trash Рік тому +118

      will of the city:

    • @punishing_birb
      @punishing_birb 11 місяців тому +58

      I would imagine those playing 5d chess together

    • @Randomguy-ly2xs
      @Randomguy-ly2xs 9 місяців тому +40

      Meanwhile Ayin: Time to do some tomfoolery

    • @NoRegs30
      @NoRegs30 9 місяців тому +79

      @@Randomguy-ly2xs
      Ayin and Carmen fucking around with human consciousness and blowing up reality is the basis for the plot

    • @Randomguy-ly2xs
      @Randomguy-ly2xs 9 місяців тому +44

      @@NoRegs30 More like Carmen doing the fucking around and Ayin being like here, have a nuke, idgaf about what you do with it, it's someone else's problem

  • @dumbino7745
    @dumbino7745 Рік тому +696

    Regarding Purple Tear's motivation, it's probably not as sweet or selfless as you seem to think it is, in the lore for her keypage she says "I saw many people who were lost after losing their precious stuff, just like me. I couldn’t just pass them by. They looked so miserable and pitiful. Well… It wasn’t entirely out of goodwill. The fact that they were worth helping played a big part. Once again, nothing in this world is free. I didn’t quite pity them as much as I weighed up the favors they could give me in return." she also says "All I want is to meet my son, whom I had to part with in the most unfortunate way." it's also stated in her cutscene with the blue ensemble that she had a biological son who died young, with Argalia saying "your son died more than 40 years ago" so her whole thing with Roland is probably some 20d chess ploy to somehow hop into a reality where her son is alive or bring him back from the dead.

    • @MetiNotTheBadGuy
      @MetiNotTheBadGuy  Рік тому +236

      Oh yeah, I don't believe she is acting out of generous, but I do believe her words to him that encouraged him to be his own person wasn't only scheming.

    • @duyanhbui5386
      @duyanhbui5386 Рік тому +16

      ​@@MetiNotTheBadGuygreen dawn doubt

    • @forgetfullsanity
      @forgetfullsanity Рік тому +52

      Nice comment but leviathan just makes this comment kinda void but it does make sense if lori and verg had the same ideals just different ways to do said idea

    • @withedoter6277
      @withedoter6277 Рік тому +7

      Now that we are legit dealing with multiverse in limbus, maybe she is looking for a way to get her son to cross timeline 🤔

    • @duyanhbui5386
      @duyanhbui5386 Рік тому +2

      @@withedoter6277 lol lmao even

  • @AlecBGood
    @AlecBGood Рік тому +1277

    Thank you, Snake Granny.
    The Odyssey has a purpose.

    • @vaulty9403
      @vaulty9403 Рік тому +11

      what does this means ?
      I've heard this quote from Outis a lot in Limbus and haven't gone far enough in LoR

    • @eggseed6543
      @eggseed6543 Рік тому +29

      ​@@vaulty9403we haven't gotten to her backstory yet

    • @RussianCollapse
      @RussianCollapse 10 місяців тому +63

      @@vaulty9403 obviously
      it means that The Odyssey had a purpose!

    • @HelterwithoutSkelter
      @HelterwithoutSkelter 9 місяців тому +24

      when the odyssey has a purpose

    • @A.Singularity
      @A.Singularity 8 місяців тому +8

      outism

  • @memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487
    @memes_the_dna_of_the_soul5487 Рік тому +564

    1:24:02
    You have awakened the possibility of a fanfic that I will likely play through all of Library of Ruina just so I can get a perspective on the characters, so I can write this story.
    Tiphereth: "So let me get this straight, you've never actually had an education before."
    Roland: "Nothing formal, at least."
    Tiphereth: "Well then! We start tomorrow."
    Roland: "You can't possibly be ser-"
    _Tiphereth was shooting Roland a look that would make the Red Gaze look sheepish in comparison, she couldn't possibly be more serious._
    Roland: "Okay, Tomorrow, I'll see you then."

    • @MetiNotTheBadGuy
      @MetiNotTheBadGuy  Рік тому +156

      God I'd love to read Tiphereth teach Roland how to read, sounds like a heartwarming story

    • @FireBlaze-kk1ls
      @FireBlaze-kk1ls Рік тому +66

      The fact that both of the library colors are illiterate is hilarious to me xD
      Everyone teaching them to read would be very entertaining and interesting to read ngl

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 Рік тому +125

      ​@@FireBlaze-kk1ls
      "Wait, Gebura, how come you're the Patron Librarian of the Floor of Language if you can't read?"
      "Violence is the universal language."
      "...Duly noted."

    • @sirtopoftheworldegg
      @sirtopoftheworldegg Рік тому +5

      tell me when the first chapter come's out

    • @ragael1684
      @ragael1684 Рік тому +1

      comenting so i get notified when you start doing your fanfic

  • @LordBape
    @LordBape Рік тому +1223

    Past me, checking twitter: "Oh cool, Meti's playing Library of Ruina. I love that game."
    Current me, baffled and flabbergasted: *"THE HOUR AND A HALF LONG ROLAND VIDEO!?"*

    • @GlueEater-ix9gl
      @GlueEater-ix9gl Рік тому +102

      pmoon brainrot dose that to a man

    • @LordBape
      @LordBape Рік тому +47

      @@GlueEater-ix9gl Patiently waiting for Willi to drop the two hour long Outis video.

    • @NovaAeternus
      @NovaAeternus Рік тому +31

      @@LordBape ouughhh... hag... must menocontinue... menoresume

    • @RussianCollapse
      @RussianCollapse 10 місяців тому +13

      @@LordBape Outism

  • @Peppy10003
    @Peppy10003 Рік тому +466

    regarding purple tear, there isn't really any concrete proof that she was roland's gran, ignoring that she's old, she does pick up random fixers and help her, but they call her mentor instead of granma, additionally we dont actually know what age she picked them up, for all we know she just finds tallent and then trains them. also argelia is also picked up by PT so it would open another can of worms :P.

    • @Bluelyre
      @Bluelyre Рік тому +76

      Still, it would make sense if Iori trained roland. Since she has a habit of training potential color fixers.

    • @Kiyokoghurt
      @Kiyokoghurt Рік тому +68

      Rolands the casual type to call her Gran regardless, instead of Mentor, I can see that happen.

    • @opatzo9165
      @opatzo9165 Рік тому +2

      if she is roland grandma then isn't her dead son roland father?

    • @l-DrFizz-l
      @l-DrFizz-l Рік тому +17

      If she was roland’s gran wouldn’t he have met Angelica by that point? Since i assume she was there too.

    • @gnarsly
      @gnarsly Рік тому

      i headcanon her as mars' mom

  • @TheFatSlimeKing
    @TheFatSlimeKing 9 місяців тому +46

    37:00 live footage of gebura taking the red out of red mist

  • @aisir3725
    @aisir3725 Рік тому +607

    First Angela gets 4 hour analysis, now Roland gets 1.5 long, splendid

    • @spectre7095
      @spectre7095 Рік тому +156

      keep in mind angelas 4 hour analysis included a 50 minute roland side arc

    • @akumu2225
      @akumu2225 Рік тому +165

      PM fans finally eating good after a long time of being backstreet rats taking every opportunity to shill LC and LoR

    • @aisir3725
      @aisir3725 Рік тому

      @@emirhandincer4731 hydrojoy

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 Рік тому +21

      ​@@akumu2225 the brainrot spreads

    • @nightowl548
      @nightowl548 Рік тому +8

      Where's the Angela vid

  • @thurowaway
    @thurowaway Рік тому +881

    Crying because Meti skipped the deep multi-layered and character-building analysis on why Roland looks way too good in Ozma's dress 😔😔😔😔

    • @mental9080
      @mental9080 Рік тому +147

      Plap plap plap plap

    • @ysfghs609
      @ysfghs609 Рік тому

      ​@@mental9080get distorted get distorted get distorted

    • @foodluver7779
      @foodluver7779 Рік тому +193

      Get distorted get distorted

    • @anonymousfox4620
      @anonymousfox4620 Рік тому +50

      *cough* beta version of queen of greed roland *cough*

    • @thurowaway
      @thurowaway Рік тому +18

      @@anonymousfox4620 where can I see this fabled costume

  • @RikuMatsuoSF9
    @RikuMatsuoSF9 Рік тому +107

    Regarding Iori, I believed that her plan is not exactly "for Roland to live happily." Roland's story is but a stepping stone for her grand scheme that linked to her lost son (mentioned when she encountered Argalia and the gang before coming to the library.)
    Somehow, redistributing the light and letting Angela live out side of the City is one of the necessary step for her.
    Why do I think like that? It is mentioned that she can travel through time, meaning she also KNOWS the possibility of the future and the parallel world. She probably found that one possibility that she could bring her son back, and it requires the library to still be standing, and for Tommerry to destroy the orphanage. She knows that it would drives Vergilius to join Limbus Company, and we're still in the journey to find out how her plan would plays out.

    • @MetiNotTheBadGuy
      @MetiNotTheBadGuy  Рік тому +22

      That's true, I didn't mean to make my statement say she did so entirely for his happy ending. I believe she used him like others she's mentioned but I also do think his ending was intentionally the best one for him. I am certain we will learn exactly what she had planned for the Library or The Light in the future. Just she also happened to give Roland a happier ending then either of the two games other endings.

  • @zodaloo9303
    @zodaloo9303 Рік тому +141

    It's finally time. After all the music, end video pics, and that damned tease from Iori. We're finally at our first Project Moon video. Thank you, Meti. I've been looking forward to this for a long while now.

  • @markcukierberg10
    @markcukierberg10 Рік тому +288

    I can't believe that moment when Angela said to Roland before he slained her: "Roland, this library is truly in ruina"

  • @AnAbsoluteUnit
    @AnAbsoluteUnit Рік тому +171

    After seeing Roland at the end of your breakdowm on Toji, I had a feeling that "Meti's going to make a video about Roland".

  • @reedman1337
    @reedman1337 Рік тому +102

    roland is a likable person
    but he is definitly not a good guy
    hes not heartless
    but is capable of extreme brutality
    he has a conscience
    but it was neglected under the life he had to lead
    all in all, an intresting protagonist and a perfect match for his counterpart

    • @patatayt1919
      @patatayt1919 6 місяців тому +19

      Compared to literally EVERYONE is the City, Roland is surely one of the few good people in the City

  • @mayazxavier9060
    @mayazxavier9060 Рік тому +41

    F*cking finally!
    Someone made a character analysis of the GOAT Roland. And it's 1 and a half hour long. This is the first time I wished a video was long and I loved every second. I love you dude

  • @jonnymeboy9761
    @jonnymeboy9761 Рік тому +86

    Excellent, excellent video. It is a true testament to Project Moon's writing, craftsmanship and the character of Roland that you could talk for the length of a full feature film and still I feel that there is more to say about him (through no fault of your own or the video's obviously). I honestly teared up at points due to my own love and connection with the character. You really did his character justice and I am beyond happy that you made this video and that it came out as good as it did.
    In regards to Binah's Abnos, while they don't comfortably relate to Roland's own personal life and character quite like the other floors he's associated with, I think (like you alluded to) they are representative of the City as a whole which in a way actually does relate to Roland. Because Roland in a lot of ways is the reflection of the City itself, both as a character and as his role in the game and story for Angela and the player. He is one of the major lenses that we see the City through and where a lot of the information provided to both the player and Angela about the City come from. While the previous floors related more to his role as a character in a story, I think Binah's floor relates more to him being the surrogate "player character" of the game that takes place in the City, more specifically that allows us to view the City.
    And other couple notes:
    -Angelica and Argalia spent a lot of their childhoods being human experiments in the Outskirts so Roland being able to continue living his life with contentment with Angela and everyone else in the Outskirts is beautifully poetic.
    -The final three lines of the game spoken by Roland refer to a motif throughout the franchise where names and how we refer to others dictate our perception and relationship with them and ourselves. Roland barely ever calls Angela her name throughout a vast majority of the game and when he does, it's definitely not in a pleasant context before the very end. But these three lines act as a beautiful bow to this motif and to really show the friendship these two had fostered over the course of the game despite everything. And also Roland is given the moniker "Servant" in conversations before the finale. Except for this final part where if you look closely, he has the title "Friend" instead.
    -Roland's final distorted form takes design concepts and narrative significance from two other distorted individuals: Phillip and Yan. Phillip who has an arc about delusions and literally turns into someone who has no face, hears, eyes or mouth (reflected in Roland's black mask becoming his face and a void) and in the case of Yan, Yan submits to the will of the City and basically resolves himself to not having any free-will, which is pretty much a thing Roalnd does too with resolving to take revenge on Angela and feeding into the cycles of violence and the will of the City.
    And much more I could go on with like unpacking Gone Angels itself, the concept of Roland's forceful NPC to Main Character status transformation and how that has been building ever since LobCorp through both the gameplay and narrative of LC and Ruina, and even down to his signature phrase "That's that and this is this" equating to the oh so popular phrase "It is what it is" that has become so popular in society nowadays.
    Once again, thank you for this video. Because I truly believe that, ironically enough, Roland's beauty and his character shouldn't fade away in silence.

  • @fishingwahoooo
    @fishingwahoooo Рік тому +7

    great video! roland’s a character with so much to him, and an hour and a half video essay on him is such a treat.

  • @superaguilar
    @superaguilar Рік тому +71

    4:30
    small correction. the jester of nihil is not an "aspect of roland" but another abnormality that resonated with him. some abnos join together to summon or create other abnormalities like the three birds and the oz set.

    • @SicklySeraph
      @SicklySeraph Рік тому +20

      Pretty sure Nihil was also a supposedly planned abnormality if all the other 4 were in the game, possibly if they combined. Alas Servant of Wrath isnt in the game so no Nihil :(

    • @superaguilar
      @superaguilar Рік тому +14

      @@SicklySeraph many such cases. Lob corp was shipped incomplete and was never updated after it's release

    • @shayde132
      @shayde132 11 місяців тому

      ​@@SicklySeraphholy shit hi angel

  • @bananamoth
    @bananamoth Рік тому +47

    This is a great and concise video essay regarding PM's best sandwich eater. Bro was that powerful he came into the real world to share the 2nd thing he loved the most.

  • @JohnDoeADeerAFemaleDeer
    @JohnDoeADeerAFemaleDeer Рік тому +66

    Holy hell, a video on Library of Ruina? And an hour and a half long? Yes please!

  • @josephjacques1960
    @josephjacques1960 Рік тому +4

    I just want to thank you on finally giving me that little push that made play the game the way you explained the story was amazing and it made want to delve deeper into the game and finally play it thank you

  • @kaiser9598
    @kaiser9598 Рік тому +36

    AM I DREAMING??? HUNDRED THOUSAND SUBSCRIBER UA-camR WITH HIGH QUALITY CONTENT MAKING A RUINA VIDEO???
    Your blurb on the Sephirah is amazing! this video is just so incredible... You gave me so many more perspectives on Roland that I haven't even thought of. I definitely like him a lot more now.
    Oh my god, I'm dreaming. This video definitely did him justice! Thank you so much!!
    6:02 also, there's not much to suggest that his grandma and PT were the same person, but it's definitely a cool theory

  • @izzymosley1970
    @izzymosley1970 Рік тому +45

    I was so shocked seeing this video pop up that I felt like toji seeing gojo after he thought he killed him.

  • @ratenthusiast4000
    @ratenthusiast4000 Рік тому +34

    I never would've expected Meti to make a Project Moon video and my day is made. Especially with the focus on LoR and not Limbus lol

  • @ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028
    @ericraululyeetusdelyeetus5028 Рік тому +12

    I AM HERE
    This is the most anticipated video of yours yet.
    Fuck yeah! Loland rules...and thank you snake granny.

  • @jakedemes2084
    @jakedemes2084 Рік тому +20

    This is awesome, been a long time fan of yours, love your content and now you're doing a video on one of my all time favorite games, love to see it.

  • @99sinkingpotencyandcount
    @99sinkingpotencyandcount Рік тому +15

    One of my best one hour and 29 minutes spent, Helped me expand on the lore, Keep up the good work!
    You’re Doin’ Good Lad

  • @mrvoid4282
    @mrvoid4282 Рік тому +63

    THE HECK! I was not expecting one of the creators i really liked to talk about a niche game i really like. Thank you man.

    • @Tomzin20
      @Tomzin20 Рік тому +8

      project moon’s actually pretty famous, but for some reason its not talked about much in general media?

  • @akirasplain
    @akirasplain Рік тому +2

    Around a month ago I played the entirety of LOR, and seeing more videos appear on the story behind angela and roland has been amazing to look at. Great video, thank you for spending so much time on it!

  • @kevonlordoftheslimes9084
    @kevonlordoftheslimes9084 Рік тому +18

    So happy you did a library video, will be interested in seeing you ever do more library/lob characters. Perhaps there will be enough in limbus for you do one on them as well. Thank you for doing such a interesting character

  • @Daveo1177
    @Daveo1177 Рік тому +7

    Thank you Snake Granny! AND YES PLEASE MORE OUTIS LOVE PM I BEG. Awesome Vid! Roland has so much depth as a character.

  • @rocketcat086
    @rocketcat086 Рік тому +39

    I just got into this series like a week ago, I'd love to see more ruina, limbus company or lobotomy corp content

  • @iaminyourwalls3889
    @iaminyourwalls3889 Рік тому +14

    Yes, PLEASE give Project Moon some more love, I love their franchise with all my heart.

  • @user-gp8ty7ri1i
    @user-gp8ty7ri1i Рік тому +22

    What a pleasant surprise, PM world is very… complex and poetically bizarre.
    It’s always nice to see different peoples perspectives on it.

  • @mehmeh3329
    @mehmeh3329 Рік тому +20

    A fellow Outis fan I see, you've earned yourself a subscriber good sir.

  • @storiesinsong156
    @storiesinsong156 Рік тому +9

    A friend of mine has introduced me to Project Moon and I'm really enjoying it
    Nice work on the video. Hope to see more PM character analysis

  • @Beepers559
    @Beepers559 Рік тому +7

    I feel like Ishmael deserves an episode with what she’s going through on canto 5 in limbus

  • @richardomilos8686
    @richardomilos8686 Рік тому +48

    Roland is my favorite character in fiction no exceptions so pogs in chat for this one.

  • @if3925
    @if3925 Рік тому +14

    Honestly LOR is one of the few games (besides Dark Souls + Elden Ring-) where I thanked it for ripping me a new one each and every time, because it pushed me to think rather than run in yawning because I knew I'd win. Roland is by far one of my most favorite characters due to his deep story yet many plain features, I'm so happy there's still people out there who can appreciate the appeal of lackluster designs with so much deep story driven love within them.
    I've always liked characters that weren't overly colorful, or had some major special feature that made them stand out completely.
    All you need is a simple design, a great personality, backstory and main story and piece it all together like some puzzle and before you know it? You have a grand character that many will adore and care for. LOR is one of those games that has scary jumps in difficulty and enemy encounters, but each and every one felt like some overly fun hurdle for you to experience and grow from, being able to follow it through (and learn Angelica and Angela live rent free in my mind-) with Roland was a majorly fun challenging story that was worth paying at full price.. *even if it's on sale right now, but we don't talk about that-* I don't know the full story back to finish as I haven't seen every alleyway that connects to LOR like Lobo and that detective thing, but it'll be fun nevertheless..
    *And painful, very painful.*
    Also Snake Lady who said you can take residence in my head as well?
    *WHY CAN'T I MAKE RENT FOR THESE WOMEN?!*

  • @codelimbus
    @codelimbus Рік тому +140

    Truly a "Boohoo my wife is dead" moment

  • @The_Chuman
    @The_Chuman Рік тому +2

    The LAST thing I was expecting today, was a PJM video from you of all people. It is going to be a banger.

  • @synchrophrenia
    @synchrophrenia Рік тому +7

    Never knew you were a Project Moon fan!
    I originally found you sometime ago from your MGRR analysis videos and occasionally picked up a few of your JJK videos but seeing one of my favorite game series get a video on your channel... wow
    Thanks for this analysis!

  • @Exokaubed
    @Exokaubed 18 днів тому

    The more I learn about the universe of Lobotomy Corp the more I admire it, from the horror, to the writing, to the various sources of inspiration. It leaves me feeling like the world I have built in my head is small by comparison, but not one without potential. Also congrats on successfully convincing me that I should play Library of Ruina and Limbus Company despite how difficult Ruina looks and confusing Limbus felt.

  • @RigPhos
    @RigPhos Рік тому +75

    Holy shit! finally after teasing and teasing a LoR video!!! Meti I hope you get a giantess gf for christmas and wish you a very good luck

  • @troljynx9953
    @troljynx9953 Рік тому +3

    Holy shoot I did NOT expect that video at all, got me 360° blindsided

  • @Bucket_Taylor
    @Bucket_Taylor Рік тому +44

    Damn, an hour and a half long video just to say you like Old Women, I can respect that.
    Although, seems like you're gonna have to wait a year to get that ID... Still! Enjoyed this very much, and hope you enjoy Walpurgis Nacht!
    Edit: DER FROOTLOOPS OUTIS! LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @ianchandler3282
    @ianchandler3282 Рік тому +1

    I had to do a double take when I saw this in my recommended, never thought you would cover these characters but I am all for it!

  • @gddudes1575
    @gddudes1575 Рік тому +3

    I am genuinely so happy to have a character analysis on a project moon game, PLEASE MORE

  • @karatheboi
    @karatheboi 3 місяці тому

    I usually have trouble with watching long videos that explain stories/lores, but I managed to finish this one with just 2-3 breaks! Wonderful explanations and brilliant use of visuals/backgrounds to keep my attention on the video. Great job and thank you Meti!

  • @zifer123
    @zifer123 Рік тому +22

    Damn cant belive Meti is this much of a fanboy for library of ruina

  • @yingchoo
    @yingchoo 9 місяців тому +4

    project moon has many beautifully written characters

  • @superelite3122
    @superelite3122 Рік тому +9

    Library of Ruina content in 2023? Say it isnt so. What a fantastic character analysis of Roland. Truly one of my favorite protagonists of all time. As well one of the best games of all time for me.
    Roland is such a tragic character that you can sympathize with and understand why he did the things he had done. And him finaly learning to move on and be himself was my favorite moment of the game. Where all pretenses are gone and he finally views Angela and the other librarians as friends.
    Also at the end of the last dialogue with Roland, I love how the little name that goes over character dialogue has him as friend instead of servant.

  • @cuagulantecarmia867
    @cuagulantecarmia867 Рік тому +2

    from the man i learned all of jojo's from, now doing a ruina video about the man itself, amazing simply amazing, and also thank snake granny

  • @sintheemptyone8108
    @sintheemptyone8108 Рік тому +23

    My absolute favorite character in gaming and the one to set the bar for the "broken home, broken soul"-archetype of characters that much higher. His characterization & the tragedy told through narrative, gameplay & design was sublime, it really sold the character.
    But most importantly, he was the reality check I sorely needed in my own life. And while I will ultimately keep utilizing this persona against strangers for the sake of my own goals, I feel that I am no longer as consumed by that mask as I was before.

  • @cyz3566
    @cyz3566 Рік тому +2

    When I realized it's Meti who is doing a video on Roland, I was SO HAPPY.

  • @Spinwire
    @Spinwire Рік тому +4

    Thought it was worth mentioning, but you can vaguely see buildings in the background of phase 4, most likely representing district 9 after the distortion of the pianist, recreating the literal worst day of his life.

  • @valewalker1240
    @valewalker1240 Рік тому +1

    YOOO A PROJECT MOON VERSE VIDEO?
    The community isn't very large, so its pretty awesome to see a relatively big youtuber like you covering it! The lore, story, and characters are AMAZING and I hope it gets more recognition soon!

  • @akiramystic3596
    @akiramystic3596 Рік тому +5

    Roland is my favorite character from ruina mostly because of how badass and powerful he is, but other reason is his journey. Also thank you snake granny.

  • @TheMightyKawama
    @TheMightyKawama Рік тому +1

    Holy crap what a vid length, god knows how long this took - thank you Meti!

  • @colin9164
    @colin9164 3 місяці тому +3

    58:40 There is a connection. The abnormality "Apocalypse Bird" is the magnum opus of Roland's feelings. For losing Angelica was the apocalypse to him.

  • @snitcharoothe8994
    @snitcharoothe8994 3 місяці тому +1

    I love how Roland's story also ties into String Theocracy, making the opening hit even harder.

  • @sevntohno8728
    @sevntohno8728 Рік тому +50

    I don't think Iori's identity as Roland's grandmother has been confirmed or not, so to err on the side of caution, she *could* be one, but more likely not. Unless you're taking her calling both Roland and Argalia with the same moniker, I think that's a leap.

    • @MetiNotTheBadGuy
      @MetiNotTheBadGuy  Рік тому +32

      It's true, she isn't directly confirmed to be his Gran, but Roland has special dialog when deployed in her reception, she came to him after his rampage, Roland mentions his grandmothers training is what made him a good Fixer at such a young age and she is known for training lost children, it's also Iori's words which reached Roland in the final moments of the game. I think there is enough information to make the assumption that I did, but if PM comes out and denies that info then I guess egg on my face.

    • @heartbae87
      @heartbae87 Рік тому +18

      ​@@MetiNotTheBadGuyhopefully we atleast get some form of confirmation from limbus about who her "son" is

    • @cirospedale7511
      @cirospedale7511 Рік тому +10

      ​@@MetiNotTheBadGuyHonestly it would make some sense. Most Color fixers we know of had some sort of insane thing going for them like Iori herself travelling dimensions or Argalia who was more specialized in charming people and making connections, or Geburah who was incredibly strong and the first person we know to have manifested E.G.O, meanwhile Roland isn't insanely enhanced or anything but he somehow managed to be enough of a beast to decimate a Finger. If a Color trained him from childhood it would help explain some of that, at least.

    • @funninoriginal6054
      @funninoriginal6054 Рік тому +3

      Leap? Good combat page!

    • @iantsai6082
      @iantsai6082 Рік тому +2

      ​@@funninoriginal6054Christ 😂😂😂

  • @RougeMephilesClone
    @RougeMephilesClone 10 місяців тому

    I did not expect to randomly stumble across this channel again covering a franchise I just got interested in, but I am here for it. Good to see you're doing well, Meti.

  • @DuyroZeppeli
    @DuyroZeppeli Рік тому +12

    Edit: thank you snek granny!
    a PMoon video? from the man Meti himself? THIS IS IDEAL LET'S GOOOOOOO

  • @littlenep5180
    @littlenep5180 Рік тому +1

    i have played ruina so freaking much. it's my most played game on steam and I go back to on occasion to just listen to the music and battle some fights. mostly with gebura, Roland and maybe Binah.. I do relate to roland a lot and I love this video. this has only further my admiration of roland and I really owe the game so so so much for helping me get through a rough time of my life. I relate more to Malkuth in the game but Roland comes to a very close second. thank you

  • @swracing2402
    @swracing2402 Рік тому +5

    Furioso was explicitly stated to be inspired by devil may cry, though the atelier logic handguns do not match with ivory and ebony, not being M1911 platform guns.
    Also on the Mountain of Smiling Bodies: It probably represents Roland's underlying awareness of the many he's killed just to progress or "grow" while living in the city, and the guilt associated with that? At least thats my interpretation.

  • @DrAGON11130
    @DrAGON11130 Рік тому +1

    I never thought id see MetiNotTheBadGuy making a Ruina vid. Im so happy rn

  • @MazinGetterZ
    @MazinGetterZ Рік тому +10

    Unironically the best fictional character that I'm glad to share a first name with. Also thank you snake granny!

  • @chay3582
    @chay3582 Рік тому

    Just the sheer fact that this channel has the essays about both Roland and... Tucker. Meti, what a man you are

  • @Psecter
    @Psecter Рік тому +7

    Absolute banger of a video, Thank you snake granny, Also meti has Oustism lmao

  • @setit783
    @setit783 Рік тому +1

    This is was incredibly in-depth, thank you

  • @josienakamura4967
    @josienakamura4967 Рік тому +4

    LIBRARY OF RUINA VIDEO OF ROLAND?!?!?! YESSSSSSS OMG OMG OMG YESSSSS!!!!!
    Edit: Im so glad you fell in love with PMs lore and Library of Ruina as its story, characters, and world became my most favorite in all of fiction. Rolans and Angela are such beautiful characters masterfully written and i hope you enjoy your stay im this rabbit hole as i fell into it and im never coming out ❤

  • @AquaAnime3314
    @AquaAnime3314 Рік тому

    Thank you Snake granny!! I can't imagine the amount of effort that you poured into this video and would absolutely continue to watch more essay like videos from you in the future!

  • @Kylotl
    @Kylotl Рік тому +88

    god i love roland. hes so good

  • @eldritchpain
    @eldritchpain 11 місяців тому +1

    4 words. Make. More. Of. These. Youve properly informed me. Hope to see more Project Moon content from you

  • @c_alam1ty
    @c_alam1ty Рік тому +3

    roland and ruina in general have permanently altered my brain chemistry, epic! thank you snake granny too ig

  • @felushopefell1817
    @felushopefell1817 Місяць тому

    Amazing how I watched your videos about JoJo's Bizarre Adventure when I was in high school, thoroughly enjoying them, and now here I am having just graduated college and being recommended a video by you that's from my new hyperfixation.

  • @veaceslavstoianov4378
    @veaceslavstoianov4378 Рік тому +427

    Meti never fails to clap my cheeks

  • @JoshuaPAMployee
    @JoshuaPAMployee 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you, Snek Granny! I hope to see you on my playthrough soon!
    Out now on the NINTENDO SWITCH

  • @legit8245
    @legit8245 Рік тому +3

    I got into the project moon games/universe only very recently and just want to say what a joy it is to have this type of content be uploaded so soon as my love for this universe has groqn, thank you for making this as high quality as it was !

  • @azi-keil9574
    @azi-keil9574 Рік тому +1

    Meti has finally done a Project Moon video, I legit learned about chainsaw man from your video on the darkness arc, read all of chainsaw man after halfway through the anime, learned about the entire project moon game trilogy lore, came back and noticed the ruina ost playing, then found out about jujutsu kaisen/hell's paradise, and finally after reading and watching both, a few months later this comes out. Cool beans

  • @elysainempire4628
    @elysainempire4628 Рік тому +3

    I don't know if you knew this detail when talking about Roland fighting the libary, and was subtle talking about it, or didn't. But if you read all the nugget dilogues you learn that Roland stomped his way through the library. Showing that Roland was still very much as dangerous as he was during his rampage.

  • @narkle9723
    @narkle9723 Рік тому +1

    Holy shit PM video???? You have joined us in the rabbithole... Enjoy your stay, you're a pm channel now, we will never let you out :3

  • @yaboidamnationdaniel7646
    @yaboidamnationdaniel7646 Рік тому +7

    Roland will always be my "literally me" character

  • @nathanblackburn1193
    @nathanblackburn1193 Рік тому +2

    I hope we get more PM videos in the future, there are so many characters you could talk about, Angela, Ayin, Xiao, Philip, the Sephirot, Catt, Rose, Taii, Virgilius (at least the stuff from Leviathan), Yuri, Kromer, Dongrang and many more

  • @chainchomp3500
    @chainchomp3500 Рік тому +32

    I don't think she might have held the title of color fixer while hunting down blood red night. Also, I believe the one who wanted to stay in the backstreets of that district was Angelica herself. Leviathan showed that he was extremely picky about what nest to enter, and Vergilius pointed out to him that many would be jumping over each other at a chance to have two powerful individuals living in their area, but they still didn't budge.
    Also, you're jumping the gun in a lot of explanations, like saying the middle is all but extinct, when he specifically killed good chunk of the middle in the south, the fingers are much larger than a single man could eradicate on his own, at least that quickly, and the fact that Hana came cause they surpassed star of the city, in case you forgot, they still considered them star of the city material when they arrived. For all we know, the rank is only a branding the head gives, and Hana didn't know about it.

    • @MetiNotTheBadGuy
      @MetiNotTheBadGuy  Рік тому +15

      It's definitely unclear, I think you might be right and she was promoted too Color following BRN, cause Roland says they are both Grade 1's but being a Color is being Grade 1+. Regarding her wanting to live in the backstreets I assumed it was her trying to make the best out of the situation and would be happy to live anywhere with Roland. Though that was more so my personal reading of the situation.

  • @sauri_an8251
    @sauri_an8251 Рік тому

    It brings me joy knowing my favourite character analysis ytber has delved deep into the pm universe and has made a video about one of its greatest characters. Even if Roland’s character has been covered already in other videos I still learned new things about the story. This videos was a treat to enjoy, thank you snake granny.

  • @mehcro3622
    @mehcro3622 Рік тому +4

    37:05 Gebura suddenly dissappearing is actually her coming to ur house

  • @malava290
    @malava290 4 місяці тому +1

    I would like to tell you that this video is one of the reasons that convinced me to try out limbus

  • @the8bitclicker_193
    @the8bitclicker_193 Рік тому +21

    slowly but surely, Project Moon is getting the attention it deserves
    let us spread the PM brainrot together lol