at least you only did it once, i put a hole in a cable when i was clipping, didn't go through anything other than the outer sheathing but as it's my house i wanted things to be perfect so i redid the cable and put a hole in exactly the same place in the new cable too 🤦♂ there were lots of naughty words that day i can tell you, took me 5 hours 😥
Many years ago when I was an apprentice plumber we worked on an upside down property, when it came to filling up and testing we turned the water on and immediately turned off. As the kitchen was directly above the garage the water was dripping through the garage ceiling. After lifting the floor board in the kitchen we found the joiner had nailed the mains water pipe as it went over 3 or 4 joists . After we replaced the damaged pipe the joiner replaced the floor board and put nails in exactly the same place. Nothing like doing a job twice
Great work Nick, i am not sure where you find the time to run the business, film everything, then do the editing and uploading, along with having a young family etc, you must be working a massive amount of hours, so make sure you time time for yourself.
We've all done it. I've literally just done the same at a job this weekend, hammered a clip onto a 2.5mm cable I've just laid and put the nail straight through it !! Luckily it was a short segment on a ring between two sockets so I could replace it quite quickly. I checked the bit I took out, and I had missed all the conductors, but you're absolutely right, you can't take the risk - hence the reason we all do dead tests before sealing cables into floors etc.....don't we ;-)
Not going to be one of those people who complain and say you are doing something wrong but when it comes to the data cable, I would always recommend having a larger bend on the cables. Tight bends can cause problems when it comes to data cable. Great video though as always!
Came to say the same thing. According to specifications the minimum bend radius on copper data cables is four times the outside diameter of the cable. Less than that may cause degradation at 1 Gbps or 10 Gbps data speeds. That said, probably not too much of an issue in a home environment where the APs probably aren't running at that speed. Nice work though.
You cut into the plasterboard ceiling and put in the plastic dry lining back box... but doesnt this then require a fire rated backbox or lumiaire etc... as you;ve compromised the fire rating. e.g. fire rated downlight is required if there is a dwelling above etc..
I would have put a join in although I guess could affect the speed capability depending on what speed is required and cable is used, you did the right thing and looks great!
Interesting to see you're putting in wifi. Did you do a wireless survey of the house to see where the deadspots would be so you could mount them for best coverage? Also, it seems electricans don't do a ethernet test afterwards. It's the same as power cables, we do test network cable installs as well. While most older networking could get by just throwing in the cable and it connects ok, as we get faster speeds certifying the install with a Fluke Link IQ does allow you to basically garentee it'll be useful for Wfi 7 or better etc.
Bro, it's a regular house. Probably 1 central wifi point would have been enough. you dont need to have a tester to see where to put wifi points when you have 4 points to place.
Love the attention to detail and it’s a great idea to complete surveys when you first start, I’ve been installing WiFi for 6/7 years now, I need to be in a property for less than 5 minutes to know where and how many Access Points are required. Like the other comments said, 3 AP’s (although not a first choice for myself) will be ample for most homes.
Forgot about the TP Link deco stuff haven't really investigated it yet. Also it's fine but for the future you wanna leave a little bit more of a bend radius on data cabling you don't want to do Sharpe 90s. Not saying that it's not gonna work as there's certainly hundreds of installs I'm sure like that already and it's working fine. just saying it's a little too tight, and some thing to improve on.
Good stuff Nick. I'd recommended the Deco mesh system a cou0le of times. Lost in the comments. Lol. Broken record I know, but well done with cameras and editing. Cheers
It never fails at some point you're gonna go through a cable no matter what. I did that with a cable stapler at least it was towards the end so I had to do was shorting it but yes it's guaranteed to at least happened once or twice. Don't know what happened with your cat cable box that is weird maybe it's a cheap box and they didn't wrap it right or maybe something happened with the wrapping machine. Another possibility might be if you pulled out a large quantity and slid it back in but that still shouldn't of done that so I'm thinking cheap box of cable. Oh and that if you do end up having to they make ethernet cable splice boxes with double punch downs definitely worth having a few on hand as long as it's not a super long or critical run I say that's fine. I had an instance where somebody else ran the data cabling (electrician, not a data person with knowledge of what was happening in the room), one did the TV, one did the conference room table and 3 others for the other side of the room. We reconfigured things and we're going for redundancy and wanted to bond/LAGG a couple lines into a switch underneath the conference room table. I cut the cable in the ceiling underneath and pulled it back and terminated it so then I had two lines ran into the switch and then spliced on a chunk that ran back up to the TV with one of those junctions.
3:30 you can get round dry lining boxes if you're doing stuff like that. Can be a bit easier to just puta hole in the ceiling with a holesaw Screwfix 90517 if you want. Carry on 😎
round quick fix boxes are easier to fit for celling detectors,just a 64mm holesaw.And if want to be really flash you can even get em in red to match the cable
How do I get hold of you for a complete house rewire project? Empty Victorian detached house hasn’t been touched since the 1980s, Kidderminster area. Cheers
Another great video, quick question which bits do you use in your screw driver extension as the pozi bits I use sink right inside? Keep up the great work!
That moment when your soul leaves your body and you have to replace a knackered cable real world errors fair play for showing you could've not said but then no content
If it’s Ethernet back haul then it’s not going to be meshed. And as far as consumer kit goes tplink isn’t as bad as some of the others. The deco are alright.
Been there done that mate on a data cable for a cctv system 150mtr run and a staple in the middle. Lucky for me it was CCtV so Gel Crimps were fine for me I’ve seen RJ45 connectors for this type of thing not sure what there like though
Golly. We thought we we were sorted with cat 3 at home. Cat 5? Noice. Cat 5e? OK. But Cat 6 in a home environment? Just put in fibre if that's your a-hole game.
He's done you wrong on TP-Link consumer grade crap. Not the worse but more 'enthusiast' kit like Unifi, Aruba Instant on or Cambian would be much better.
So you installed access points , when you could install double sockets that also do the same job. It's best practice to keep low voltage cables at least 150 mm away from over cable to prevent cross talk . Putting a hole in a cable is a school boy error somebody of your skill set shouldn't be doing. Install cat cable in the average house is not need. Wifi routers are so reliable , have a range and of 100m and use wifi extender sockets to cover any poor areas .
no no no. Cat cable is way better and they're having a re-wire too, so just makes sense. Wi-fi can be great, stable with the right kit but mesh and especially extenders just add more and more problems and degrade speed and bandwidth. Plus, you can't power over ethernet on Wi-Fi.
I could have stood and admired those cable runs for hours, lovely job.
You're an absolute legend, ligit, honest, and around nice guy. You do a great job. Keep up the good work
at least you only did it once, i put a hole in a cable when i was clipping, didn't go through anything other than the outer sheathing but as it's my house i wanted things to be perfect
so i redid the cable
and put a hole in exactly the same place in the new cable too
🤦♂
there were lots of naughty words that day i can tell you, took me 5 hours
😥
Many years ago when I was an apprentice plumber we worked on an upside down property, when it came to filling up and testing we turned the water on and immediately turned off. As the kitchen was directly above the garage the water was dripping through the garage ceiling. After lifting the floor board in the kitchen we found the joiner had nailed the mains water pipe as it went over 3 or 4 joists . After we replaced the damaged pipe the joiner replaced the floor board and put nails in exactly the same place. Nothing like doing a job twice
Great work Nick, i am not sure where you find the time to run the business, film everything, then do the editing and uploading, along with having a young family etc, you must be working a massive amount of hours, so make sure you time time for yourself.
I’m thoroughly enjoying your content at the moment.
We've all done it. I've literally just done the same at a job this weekend, hammered a clip onto a 2.5mm cable I've just laid and put the nail straight through it !! Luckily it was a short segment on a ring between two sockets so I could replace it quite quickly. I checked the bit I took out, and I had missed all the conductors, but you're absolutely right, you can't take the risk - hence the reason we all do dead tests before sealing cables into floors etc.....don't we ;-)
I’ve never seen cables be attached to a rod like that, defo gonna try that on my next rewire
Not going to be one of those people who complain and say you are doing something wrong but when it comes to the data cable, I would always recommend having a larger bend on the cables. Tight bends can cause problems when it comes to data cable. Great video though as always!
I think rough rule of thumb is about an inch
@@Neil-e4xIn the wiring regs its 482 miles. That's how far away proper tradesman should be from data cables.
Came to say the same thing. According to specifications the minimum bend radius on copper data cables is four times the outside diameter of the cable. Less than that may cause degradation at 1 Gbps or 10 Gbps data speeds. That said, probably not too much of an issue in a home environment where the APs probably aren't running at that speed. Nice work though.
I don't think these were toooo bad (I've seen proper 180's folded back on itself before) But yeah, more radius please
Yes Nick larger radius bends for Data cable rule applies for POE & Network & also for security systems.
You cut into the plasterboard ceiling and put in the plastic dry lining back box... but doesnt this then require a fire rated backbox or lumiaire etc... as you;ve compromised the fire rating. e.g. fire rated downlight is required if there is a dwelling above etc..
Nick… Absolutely brilliant job…. So neat and tidy
looks great Nick very tidy job
Good shout on the Deco kit.
I would have put a join in although I guess could affect the speed capability depending on what speed is required and cable is used, you did the right thing and looks great!
Yeah please don’t joint data, especially under a floor 😊
Interesting to see you're putting in wifi. Did you do a wireless survey of the house to see where the deadspots would be so you could mount them for best coverage? Also, it seems electricans don't do a ethernet test afterwards. It's the same as power cables, we do test network cable installs as well. While most older networking could get by just throwing in the cable and it connects ok, as we get faster speeds certifying the install with a Fluke Link IQ does allow you to basically garentee it'll be useful for Wfi 7 or better etc.
Bro, it's a regular house. Probably 1 central wifi point would have been enough. you dont need to have a tester to see where to put wifi points when you have 4 points to place.
Love the attention to detail and it’s a great idea to complete surveys when you first start, I’ve been installing WiFi for 6/7 years now, I need to be in a property for less than 5 minutes to know where and how many Access Points are required. Like the other comments said, 3 AP’s (although not a first choice for myself) will be ample for most homes.
Forgot about the TP Link deco stuff haven't really investigated it yet.
Also it's fine but for the future you wanna leave a little bit more of a bend radius on data cabling you don't want to do Sharpe 90s. Not saying that it's not gonna work as there's certainly hundreds of installs I'm sure like that already and it's working fine. just saying it's a little too tight, and some thing to improve on.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 stapling data cables is a no no no!
Very clean job 👌
Good stuff Nick. I'd recommended the Deco mesh system a cou0le of times. Lost in the comments. Lol. Broken record I know, but well done with cameras and editing. Cheers
Also for anyone not sure tplink deco range of mesh wireless are phenomenal- always my first recommendation!
It never fails at some point you're gonna go through a cable no matter what. I did that with a cable stapler at least it was towards the end so I had to do was shorting it but yes it's guaranteed to at least happened once or twice. Don't know what happened with your cat cable box that is weird maybe it's a cheap box and they didn't wrap it right or maybe something happened with the wrapping machine. Another possibility might be if you pulled out a large quantity and slid it back in but that still shouldn't of done that so I'm thinking cheap box of cable. Oh and that if you do end up having to they make ethernet cable splice boxes with double punch downs definitely worth having a few on hand as long as it's not a super long or critical run I say that's fine.
I had an instance where somebody else ran the data cabling (electrician, not a data person with knowledge of what was happening in the room), one did the TV, one did the conference room table and 3 others for the other side of the room. We reconfigured things and we're going for redundancy and wanted to bond/LAGG a couple lines into a switch underneath the conference room table. I cut the cable in the ceiling underneath and pulled it back and terminated it so then I had two lines ran into the switch and then spliced on a chunk that ran back up to the TV with one of those junctions.
Very good you put pride on your work and wish you could do my house up like that ahah. I lifted up a board and I was scared
3:30 you can get round dry lining boxes if you're doing stuff like that. Can be a bit easier to just puta hole in the ceiling with a holesaw
Screwfix 90517 if you want.
Carry on 😎
Doesnt this go against regs as this isnt fire rated and theres a dwelling above?
Nice tidy job Nick
round quick fix boxes are easier to fit for celling detectors,just a 64mm holesaw.And if want to be really flash you can even get em in red to match the cable
Doesnt this go against regs as this isnt fire rated and theres a dwelling above? should use a fire rated one to maintain the integrity.
Could you have cut that data cable back at the damage and rerouted it into wall box and put a face plate on .... a bed room possibly?.
How do I get hold of you for a complete house rewire project? Empty Victorian detached house hasn’t been touched since the 1980s, Kidderminster area. Cheers
Ay Nic your looking Riped mate. Work at the top of the inustry standerd. And proper content. GOOD WORK.
Another great video, quick question which bits do you use in your screw driver extension as the pozi bits I use sink right inside? Keep up the great work!
All those wires.
keep up the good work love it
Another great video Nick mate would have been very surprised if you had left that cable in not our Nick
Carpet gripper rod. There is a special piece in Hell for you.
For a second there I forgot you have red three core and earth, and thought you clipped the end off a cable tongue LMAO
You could have cut it and put two RJ 45 plugs and a through connector it would test out and perform fine.
Or cut and twist together and a bit of tape . It’s not carrying any load .
you know you can get oval to 20mm round with bush converters right ?
Fair play on putting the capping into the box. That's of course what I do everything too - Some people don't, I'm not naming any names 😁😁
That moment when your soul leaves your body and you have to replace a knackered cable real world errors fair play for showing you could've not said but then no content
Hi Nick, whats the purpose of the red twin and earth? Does it have a fire rati g for the smokes, or is it more for identification purposes?
Cheers
Hi mate, it has no different properties than normal twin it’s just Dyde red so it can be identified in the future if floors are ever picked up
To be fair you needed to redo that data cable anyway after that bend 😮
Such a nice looking job that Its a shame you have to put the floorboards back down.
You're putting out LOADS of content recently, really enjoying it but look after yourself mate, would hate to see you burnout
no burn out this side mate, just enjoying what I do bud
putting in a shift bro
nice
Agh..... TP Stink.... Please please do not fall for that Mesh cr@p
If it’s Ethernet back haul then it’s not going to be meshed. And as far as consumer kit goes tplink isn’t as bad as some of the others. The deco are alright.
👍
Just put a wiska under the floor put a cat6 mod in it and double punch it 😂😂
non-compliance with fire safety
Been there done that mate on a data cable for a cctv system 150mtr run and a staple in the middle. Lucky for me it was CCtV so Gel Crimps were fine for me I’ve seen RJ45 connectors for this type of thing not sure what there like though
Grommets for boxes faffing about rounding egar I done that as an apprentice 1980 I done it in me teeth 😂
@patter
And look what it's done to you.
Never again 😂😂😂
Your code on expert electrical isn’t applying the discount even tho code is accepted, are you still affiliated with them?
The code doesn’t work anymore, the discount automatically comes off (or prices are lowered) I believe he said in a few videos back 😃
Data cable joiner!!!
One tiny hole, the downfall of many many men!
Golly. We thought we we were sorted with cat 3 at home. Cat 5? Noice. Cat 5e? OK. But Cat 6 in a home environment? Just put in fibre if that's your a-hole game.
He's done you wrong on TP-Link consumer grade crap. Not the worse but more 'enthusiast' kit like Unifi, Aruba Instant on or Cambian would be much better.
So you installed access points , when you could install double sockets that also do the same job. It's best practice to keep low voltage cables at least 150 mm away from over cable to prevent cross talk . Putting a hole in a cable is a school boy error somebody of your skill set shouldn't be doing. Install cat cable in the average house is not need. Wifi routers are so reliable , have a range and of 100m and use wifi extender sockets to cover any poor areas .
no no no. Cat cable is way better and they're having a re-wire too, so just makes sense. Wi-fi can be great, stable with the right kit but mesh and especially extenders just add more and more problems and degrade speed and bandwidth. Plus, you can't power over ethernet on Wi-Fi.
Top quality rewire the standard which they should be done to 💪🏽🫡