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Hi mate, I’m the plumber that fitted the cylinder! I’m a 2nd year apprentice and me and my supervisor are the guys that run this site! Sadly everything in these builds are priced up to have plastic pipe installed the in house (EVERYWHERE) not something I like doing at all but whenever I get a bit of work I can do in copper, like my cylinder I try and make it look as good as possible! This site was designed and had the groundwork’s put in before the new reg of part L came in which future proofs the house by instead having 15mm copper feeds to the radiators. So this is one of the final sites with plastic micro bore running to the radiators (we also install these sadly) we loop them so like you said they fit in the black back boxes and the pipes face downwards. We’ve always been told to loop them up and around to prevent us then screwing the pipes when we come to fix the radiator. But yes I agree it is rather crap quality but I’m someone on the side that takes a lot of pride in the work that goes in so very pleased with your words on the cylinder! Cheers
Hello Matt. Fair play for getting the plastic pipe so straight. Are you using coils of pipe or straight lengths. If you’re using coils how are you getting it that straight and neat. Usually I find it bends off in all directions, even when I clip it 🤣
When I saw the title I thought this was going to be some paid promotion for new builds. But watching the video you've basically highlighted what a bag of shite they are.
According to the Chancellor 1.5 million more houses in the next five years!!! Have you watched UA-cam videos by "New Home Quality Control" - Snagging!? Criminal work!!
As someone who (biggest mistake of life) took the keys to a David Wilson home 2 years ago, it's been nothing but a nightmare! Over 300 snags, 2 years to fix them all. Never. Ever. Again!
So let me get this straight... In the UK Hadrian's wall still stands after almost 2000 years, and we have castles that still stand after nearly 1000 years. But, we can't build a detached house with a complete wall in 2024 "in case it cracks"?
Wow that looks awful! So they basically build the house with a full crack already integrated, so it can split apart 'easily' at some point!! Who's idea is this??
People laugh when they know I built an old solid stone and brick ex local authority place. Still stood strong after 65 years. Most of these noddy houses will be falling apart in 10 years because they are built with no clerk of works.
After buying a new build from Bloor (one of the more reputable companies!) ... Never again, we had a snagging list with nearly 150 items! Kitchen was flooded , worktop damaged, toilet cracked, "forgot" to put a window in the garage....the list was ridiculous. Took 2 years to get near to being sorted then we found out all the Hardiplank exterior had been fitted wrong and the whole development had to have the exteriors replaced!
@@plumberparts I got grass in my 1986 new build. It covered up all the plastic & building rubble they left behind!! I've been digging it up for the last 38 years!!
@colingoode3702 I've had the same problem, my house is 1986 build. Doing work in the garden building a shed and doing the lawn, found so much glass. Must have been common back then. Still finding the stuff every now and then.
Hi Jimmy, I worked in construction up here in Scotland for over 40 years and have rarely seen plaster skimmed walls. It is almost always dry lined and taped plasterboard. The radiator pipe wall plates are fairly common, but the metal studs are almost always for commercial use only. I worked for a company once who tried one house with metal studs but when the house owner tried to hang something on the wall they were in for a shock when there was no CLS timber studs. Metal studs totally not suitable for domestic use. Good video though.👍
I live in a new build house, and in my kitchen under the sink, the plumbers left a spare water pipe with cold water with an isolation valve on its end to connect a water filter . It was very clever of them since i dont have to cut into the main pipe to do it.
We purchased a new build two years ago, a local regional builder who used slightly better materials i.e. timber used for the porch area etc. It’s detached and on a corner plot so there’s a bit of distance between us and the surrounding properties separated by brick walls rather than wooden fences. Half way through the build the local builder was acquired by Vivid, and whilst the later properties look similar you can see where corners have been cut in the kitchen, bathroom fittings, no more brick wall boundaries and so on. Our house has been constructed for the lowest possible cost behind the scenes of that I have no doubt, but we wanted to live in this location a greenfield site bordering the South Downs. As things wear out we’ll replace with quality but I take your point new builds are built with the cheapest of cheap and they’re thrown up, quality is as rough as a dogs arse but it’s been that way for a long time.
My house was built in 2004, also has those 50mm metal studs and painted plasterboard. Tried removing tiles in bathroom and they'd tiled straight onto plasterboard so the walls came with them! Nightmare. Also every floor squeaks and the wall between the lounge and kitchen even creaks when walking in kitchen! All joists are engineered I-joists and there are steel beams on every floor which makes me suspect that the joists weren't right for the spans and needed additional support as an afterthought. No noggins or braces between joists so I suspect they are twisting as I've replaced all the nails with screws and they still creak!
@@ivermektin6874possibly, but this new house looks like it won't be standing in 40 years. Whichever mug gets left holding it could lose their main asset.
@@davethatcher4954 The general mass of new builds haven't moved on from the 90's you just get less of a plot with a nice plastic water meter box stuck next to your front door
used to be block walls or stud wall 4 inches wide plus plaster door lining used to be 133 mm wide or 5 and a quarter aluminium are 50mm, 70mm and 92mm never seen 92mm in a property, work tops should be 600mm wide u find out in the small houses there 500 ish if there's no doors on in the property that's to make the room look bigger ask to see the same type of property with doors on doors should be 30 inches or bigger to make access easy my farther was going to get a new house after i tapped the wall and it vibrated all the way along he decided his 30 year old house would do.
Our property is 30 years old, mix of timber and metal studs, copper microbore for rads (inhibitive for ASHP install) and small garden (not as small as newer builds). Apart from that it was built to a good standard, which is perfect for us, considering better energy efficiency and less repair costs vs older properties.
I spent eighteen months looking at houses in Edinburgh, and found nothing built after 1939 that I could live in. They were squalid little rabbit hutches with no style nor comfort, and built to fall apart. The 1930s houses were livable, but noticeably worse than the Victorian and Georgian houses. Eight feet is NOT a high ceiling! In an attic, perhaps, but in a man room 12" is a high cieling.
If I'm not mistaken 8 feet is about 2.4 meters, in most European countries the minimum ceiling height is 2.75m, which is about 9 feet. A hogh ceiling is considered to be at least 3 meters, which is like 10 feet 😁 Btw my favourite term is "box room", not sure if that refers to the size or quality 🤣
Actually, that's idiotic. Dilatations are very useful (and necessary) over the poured, reinforced concrete floors (look at your local supermarket), but on the front walls? Grout or pointing will equalise the stresses. Don't quote me on that, but you need to dilatate approx 25 meters long poured single concrete streak, but the 3 meters wall?? Joke, unless they built it on quicksand.
Undersized ijoists, leaks in the ceiling during wind driven rain, creaking stairs, doors not aligned, fire alarms not interconnected...creaking shower tray and uneven lawn in garden. Just a few of the faults in a new build that i purchased!
Hardi board in a shower? Ha youll be lucky! Theyll be tiling straight onto that plasterboard, no tanking either. As long as the tiles dont fall off for 2 years the builders are happy. But the metal studs are slightly better than wood, it doesnt move when the house dries out so less cracking
@@plumberparts He is certainly right but they might give the plasterboard a coat of waterproofer if the house is being bought by a bank. It shouldn't be allowed now as the British Standard ammendment calls for tanking.
@@SkillBuilderI had a big argument with the NHBC about this and they insisted that green plasterboard is fine for use in showers and bathrooms. I gave up in the end and replaced it myself with kerdi board
What a surprise. An Ideal Boiler. With a "amazing" modulation rate of barely over 5:1. If that place is well insulated, which it probably is then I would expect that boiler to end up cycling and costing, whoever buys it, money. What's the total radiator load going to be in that place? 4.8kW is the boiler's minimum output.
@@ln5747 They are robust/rugged but also cheap and simple with few of the features that are needed to make them effective in the current age of efficiency combined with a poor modulation ratio of approximately 5 to 1. So a builder, not wanting to spend a lot of money and not caring about how much it will cost the buyer, will of course fit an Ideal boiler. If you have an older home with a high heat loss an Ideal boiler will be... Ideal.
Interesting!! I've mostly owned Victorian houses, currently living in 60's bungalow. All so easy to work on. Those modern places look like you'd never want to touch anything.
Great look at new construction. I noticed that all of the stub outs and drains were left open. How is the plumber required to test the drain and water system? Here in the northeast of the U.S., we will test the system by plugging the outlet of the main drain, cap or plug the drain openings, and then fill the system with water until it erupts out of the vent.
@@plumberparts water filled at first fix can easily be checked throughout the build, if loss of water then a problem can be sorted at that stage, why wait till finals to air test?
Nothing will convince me to buy a new build!! Even though current regs are better than they were, it's the cheap materials and lack of attention to detail just so the building companies can make as much profit as they can!!!
@@MegaMicraman well all you do with a old house is get it ventilated and you will get no damp but also check the path around the house has not gone above the natural damp course we have lived in this one for 53 years and do not have damp
I work on new build houses with metal stud and have always wondered what’s the point of putting id wire on plastic pipes so people can identify where the pipes are even though that could be a stud
Not skimming walls.....a nightmare when they're wallpapered and a future owner wants to remove it. Virtually impossible without ruining the plasterboard.
@@Thereishope664 Your absolutely bang on with the non plastered finish it's cheap and nasty no moisture barrier whatsoever They started to do in the 1990's then stopped but it's back again with vengeance just to save more money on the horrid red brick and red roof box's
It really is depressing. Everyone keeps complaining about immigrants but really this is our own government not putting proper regulations in (probably for kick backs from the greedy building companies) and profit, profit, profit.
All this plastic minibore pipe is okay but the fittings have a rubber seal in 'em. In my experience of rubber seals including waste pipes, they can go flat and hard in time and leak! But how do you access them in these modern nightmares? It's a case of fit and forget and keep your fingers crossed. Huge bills for some poor person to deal with. Good video though.
Bathroom is not a habitable space, so does not need a a Fire door. the rest of the rooms need Fire doors, but only if the building is 3 story plus. As a site manage I always insisted on pipes being 100m off stud walls in floors. All ground level copper was fitted once the roof goes on before the CABER floors went down.
They're fine, I've lived in older houses and newer builds, they all have their own issues. New builds tend to have a lack of attention to detail, so work on the assumption you're going to need to redecorate, possibly even re-plaster when you move in. Older houses tend to just be a merry go round of stuff failing and constant maintenance. Turns out there's no such thing as a move in and forget home.
I've bought an old victorian stonen house. Spent alot so far. Damp proofing courses. Failed drainage systems underground that needed excavating, plumbing issues. new windows, new front door, full central heating needed installing, new guttering needed to be fitted, couple of small roof issues. Cellar still needs to be tanked. Needs repointing to at some point but eventually it'll be perfect 😂 the grind of doing up an old property!
@@markroyds23 I live in a house that was built in 1879. Sure, there were issues but that's all been taken care of and now I just LOVE this beautiful old house. (And the more that "ticky tacky" houses proliferate, the rarer and more special Victorian houses become.) Good luck with your new old home.
Build better foundations and make the mortar weaker then the brick solves the crack brick problem or take it to the next stage and use the 2000 year old system and use lime mortar which repairs it self.
Shame isn't it, our house was built 75 yeard ago by the council and is still going strong with a few modern additions, these won't last more than 30-40 years in my opinion. it's pure greed and the fact in the UK (and i'm sure elsewhere) we treat housing purely as a business/investment.
no bathroom doors are not included, unless the construction around the bathroom does not meet fire standards or the fire will simply bypass to create a potential means of escape issue!
There's newbuilds over my way and i noticed when putting the walls up its a metal frame with insulated panels the outside had fake brick panels with just proper brick from the foundation to the damp course. That fella saying they had a join going thru the exterior stone work to avoid cracks didn't really sound genuine, who expects shoddy foundations as standard so subsidence must be mitigated?
Pretty much every company prioritizes profit, which means the customer usually suffers with a less good value for money worse product. Our economic system incentivizes this as bigger companies have more buying power, get better prices, and more profit, allowing more speculation and a positive feedback loop into profit. Ultimately it's the governments place to step in and set the standards to prevent companies from screwing over customers, and they evidently aren't doing. They're talking about decarbonizing energy but these houses are going to need ripping apart to be able to fit a cheap and efficient heat pump. We need the government to step up and legislate good minimum standards for all these things. As a country we would have better houses if we spend the money once doing the job right, rather than pay for the half arse initial job and then have to come back and pay silly money to redo the job later. Paying slightly more once results in a better result for less total investment. Do the job once. Do it right.
This is no exaggeration. A guy I worked with bought a new build, semi detached. He said it was like having his neighbour in the same room. He could hear every detail of every conversation, every click of the light switch. He moved.
Out of curiousity once we viewed a show house for a new build project. I went in to the toilet located by the entrance, closed the door, my wife went to the other side of the house, closed both doors behind her, we still could have a decent conversation. There was a couple on the first floor, we both heard everything they were saying 🤣
@@TrafficJamForever it's a disgrace isn't it! The govt should be legislating that these companies build decent houses, they're certainly not cheap to buy.
Won’t be air source compatible I wouldn’t have thought then. Surprised they’re still running gas, also thought new builds had to have 3 phase mains electrics for car charging now? Apologies if I’m wrong and this is “ misinformation “
@@Mr_Ashley RE 3 phase no, its not a standard currently but there will be a 100A single phase supply. Ev chargers are normally a spec thing or a planning condition and there a maximum of 7kw. Air source compatible no more than a house built 40 years ago due to it being a gas boiler (they wont care about the future of the property once the ink is dry on the contract). as for mains gas that would be acceptable as the planning would have been done before the cut off i forget the exact date sorry. New builds that incorporate air source these days tend to be underfloor heating on the ground and then 15mm tails on upstairs rads and run glycol at a lower temperatures. James maybe knocking the installation materials but as he said its built to a minimum price for maximum profit also builder will normally dictate the plumbing spec due to kickbacks from the manufactures. Gotta keep those shareholders happy!!! TBF the workmanship looks high in comparison to other house builders *coughs Persimmon*
Is everything house development like this in England. There's alot of gear in there protecting the building like shower trays. Scotland is so far behind with stuff like that. But we do use wooden studs 😮
As an immigrant i can honestly say that houses in uk are nothing but matchboxes at a very high price. The lack of storage is tremendous and even the houses that look big on the outside are still small on the inside. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising, im just expressing my opinion.
I thought it was common knowledge that you never, ever buy a new build. End of. A mate of mine is a surveyor and I asked him if he would buy a new build. He said he would buy from small independent companies that might only build five or so houses a year as they build a quality product, but he wouldn't touch anything the major housebuilders throw up with a barge-pole. But we are our own worst enemy. If people didn't buy this shite then they would be forced to raise their game. But idiots still buy this crap. So they will keep building it.
Also with this on average a new build house has a life span for 40 to 60 years . The Victorians but far better house that last must much longer with less tools
@@samuelweightman i think even that is generous, i'd guess 30-40 to be honest. Yep, plenty of Victorian houses near us still look great, some are 150 years old. Our 75 year old council house is still in great shape. it can be done, it's just pure greed. It has become big business so corners get cut to maximise profit.
When my daughter bought a Redrow house we went to inspect it before they moved in and the architraves were about 20mm from the floor! When I asked the site manager why he said they are all cut off site! So I said well that’s ridiculous! In the end they came round and cut 20mm bits and glued them in! Tossers 😡
@@leeholke9851it's actually to do with U values, Rough & set doesn't meet regs, In very near future only timber frame houses will meet U values unless you build a 20pmm cavity, So much clueless information in this video it's laughable
What's your overall verdict??? Definitely the improved insulation, modern boiler and new mortar are a bonus but they do feel so cramped, walls so thin and pipework so flimsy!
All standard practice on big builder developments. The small one off builder does generally build with some traditional materials. Hate plastic pipes with a passion and the metal stud work is borrowed from office partitioning.
I have seen a few new builds in the UK I was thinking to buy and all of them had multiple problems and were in my opinion low quality, bad value, badly finished, and would require extensive remedial work. This video does not change my mind about avoiding new builds. Are those half facing bricks? And as said already,that expansion slot looks bodged
1:35 Bathroom doors don't have to be fire doors because they're not on "habitable" rooms; or at least people don't in theory sleep there, so occupants should notice a fire more quickly. Whereas bedroom doors have to resist heat for longer as you might not realise tberes a fire, as you're potentially asleep. That's the basic logic
I’d rather let Anne widicombe sit on my face than buy a new build. Just bought my first house, a late 20s council house. One of the first built. Solid as a rock
OMG - painted plasterboard.... that's horrendous!!!! American quality! All that money and the place doesn't even get plastered!!!!!! They wouldn't get a penny of my money
@@Ed.Ryeah my house was built in 93 and that’s what they did… finish is perfect. Kinda confuses me why you would cover a perfectly flat board with a layer plaster.
the plasterboard already has a "finish" on it, skimming is a hangover from when we used to use lathe walls, if you havent smashed your drywall to bits, have filled all fixings and joints in decent fashion then of course it can be painted straight over
@johnadams1976 your obviously not in the trade & completely clueless just like the plumber making the video, Why would you cover a perfectly flat plasterboard with a skim coat? The misinformation in this video is quite embarrassing thinking it's a tradesman fiming it,
just a question - why does the council not insist that these new builds always have a rainwater sump included as a requirement ? We are constantly having water pollution when there is quite a lot of rain as surface water going down the drains have no where to go 1 The second problem less surface rain not soaking in to the water table will mean less water that the water companies can pump out of the ground with all these new builds it a disaster that can be avoided . Already south west water are having a water bill review and will charge customers 3x the current price during the summer . This is a problem that will only get worse -349 litres per day for the average household there are More than 8,600 homes are due to be built every year across Devon. that's is an extra 3001400liters of water that has to come from some where , yes a disaster is not long away
Quite interesting how the building methods vary around the country. I'm in Scotland, new houses are generally built as kits, i.e. timber frame and the bricks on the outside are purely for cladding / weatherproofing. Not sure if partition walls in new builds are still built from timber or if they use that god awful metal stuff but exterior walls have insulation installed in the timber framework and are boarded over conventionally with plasterboard, the outside of the frame i.e. between the frame and the bricks gets boarded over with OSB or plywood and covered with breather paper so from outside to inside you have bricks, air gap, OSB, insulation, plasterboard. We don't generally fully skim plasterboard walls, just tape and fill the joins and screw holes, skimming the full wall seems to be an English obsession. In general in Scotland we don't have solid or cavity walls. Old houses were built of stone and a wooden framework was built inside and fixed to the stonework with wooden plugs (or dooks as they were called), the framework was then covered over with lath and plaster. The only difference with new houses is the timber frame work walls holds the roof up rather than the stones, and plasterboard has replaced the lath and plaster, but the basic concept is the same. All in all though the build quality in new builds here is just as bad. The thing that annoys me the most is the roofs, the attics are utterly useless, you have to have the stupid floor on stilts due to cheaping out on the insulation and need to have it about 3ft deep and there is no room for anything as they use the thinnest wood possible for the roof trusses and end up with mad W shaped trusses whereas if they used good old 8" x 2" they could get away with an A frame truss and have a useable attic. I don't get the obsession in new builds for having bathrooms absolutely everywhere, a downstairs toilet, family bathroom and en suite in the master bedroom is perfectly adequate for anything 5 bedrooms or less, it's just a mechanism for upselling IMO.
There are too many tradesmen who are badly trained dishonest chavs. They bodge jobs at will and there is no accountability. They go from job to job, bodge it, then charge the customer a lot of money. There needs to be more accountability in the construction industry, tradesmen who do work that does not comply with building regulations should be going to prison. If a tradesman does a job badly you should be able to phone the police and get the tradesman charged with a criminal offence. At the moment if you tried to phone the police they would just say it was a civil offence and ignore you.
This is NOT the fault of the trades. Developers do not give them enough time to do a proper job, so all those with any ethics around quality leave the industry soon enough.
@@Paul-XCIV2 as usual, people blame the little man rather than the big guy that cut every corner to avoid a new lambo I wonder why people never attack the one that has the legal responsibilities? Always going after the easy scapegoat..
I have worked on housing developments from small builders to the largest developers over the last 17yrs. I would be happy to own less then 1% of them. They would only be from builders developing a few properties on a site and who take pride in character, quality and attention to detail.
I bought a new build Persimmon home, never again! was an absolute nightmare the way they had piped round windows, plenty pipes got drilled into, terrible electrics, terrible site managers, cowboys drafted in from everywhere!
The real question is would you buy it after seeing how everything is about cost minimisation and not at all about energy efficiency, comfort or low cost longevity? I certainly wouldn't but to be fair in Australia most new builds (where the builder doesn't go bankrupt) are far worse.
You'd be shocked as to how expensive it is to build these days, The materials have gone ridiculous & the labour is huge to be able to cover the middle man's costs
Unpopular opinion: owner of a new build and a 1930s house. NB is warm, lovely, no issues after buying it 12 years ago. 1930 terrace - drafty shite, in winter i avoid certain rooms . NB can work.
How does that guy not get the sack for slagging the place off!?!?!?! They look cheap as crap! But surely if he works there, he shoud be bigging it up!!!!!
@@plumberparts yeah it's on my doorstep and it's been 4yrs of work. I would love to go back into commercial work on big projects but that's dried up. But I can't see me staying in new builds for too long.
Tbf thats not bad workmanship for newbuilds Ive seen way worse from other house builders (you know the ones whos ceo gets £75M bonus while screwing down the contractors on site) . The rad loops up and over would be like that so they don't fix the brackets to their own pipes. Yes the 10mm down the walls could be better supported, not often you see sleeves on pipes through the top plate or full length copper drops supported by a noggin or boss's for the toilets. The builders stipulate a lot of plumbing/electrical specs like Hep, Tribune and Roca Hager Deta due to rebates for using those accessories. Sparkies on point! cables in zones boxes protected to keep the mud slingers out, noggins for boxes and lights not drylining boxes everywhere. New builds have had a bad wrap for a lot of years but i've worked for both over 30 years and self builders they've been worse at times Horses for courses really. You get good ones and bad ones! As for the price, Its like Phil and Kirsty say LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION!! I've done exactly the same house types for the same builder on different sites 40 miles apart and £100K different in sale price!
Not sure why that brick needs to be separated since the wall is not particularly long. Can only assume some issue with the ground in that area? As for the quality of new builds, does anyone think the vast majority of houses ever built were to a very high standard? Pretty much every other home is full of bodges, whenever it was made. Some builders back in the day likely using their pint of beer to act as a level.
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Hi mate, I’m the plumber that fitted the cylinder! I’m a 2nd year apprentice and me and my supervisor are the guys that run this site! Sadly everything in these builds are priced up to have plastic pipe installed the in house (EVERYWHERE) not something I like doing at all but whenever I get a bit of work I can do in copper, like my cylinder I try and make it look as good as possible! This site was designed and had the groundwork’s put in before the new reg of part L came in which future proofs the house by instead having 15mm copper feeds to the radiators. So this is one of the final sites with plastic micro bore running to the radiators (we also install these sadly) we loop them so like you said they fit in the black back boxes and the pipes face downwards. We’ve always been told to loop them up and around to prevent us then screwing the pipes when we come to fix the radiator. But yes I agree it is rather crap quality but I’m someone on the side that takes a lot of pride in the work that goes in so very pleased with your words on the cylinder! Cheers
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What's wrong with plastic micropore for the ch, I had in installed in my house and am very happy with it.
don’t apologize dude, new builds never meet quality anymore. 😂
@@simony2801not up to regs anymore boilers need to run at a lower temp and microbore doesn’t allow this also blocks up easier with sludge
Hello Matt. Fair play for getting the plastic pipe so straight. Are you using coils of pipe or straight lengths. If you’re using coils how are you getting it that straight and neat. Usually I find it bends off in all directions, even when I clip it 🤣
When I saw the title I thought this was going to be some paid promotion for new builds. But watching the video you've basically highlighted what a bag of shite they are.
According to the Chancellor 1.5 million more houses in the next five years!!! Have you watched UA-cam videos by "New Home Quality Control" - Snagging!? Criminal work!!
All ready for the turkey teeth, itv 2, French Bulldog and financed Audi
😂😂😂😂 This comment has got me mate! 😂
Deano!
Rofl and the usb socket 😂
and the grey paint
I'm dien 😂
As someone who (biggest mistake of life) took the keys to a David Wilson home 2 years ago, it's been nothing but a nightmare! Over 300 snags, 2 years to fix them all. Never. Ever. Again!
So let me get this straight... In the UK Hadrian's wall still stands after almost 2000 years, and we have castles that still stand after nearly 1000 years. But, we can't build a detached house with a complete wall in 2024 "in case it cracks"?
all built on cheap unstable land aint they....subsidence is a given
Wow that looks awful!
So they basically build the house with a full crack already integrated, so it can split apart 'easily' at some point!! Who's idea is this??
you will recoil even more when ive seen gangs miss their expansion joint and then set about running their stihl saw down the wall
They are built with expansion gaps because they use cheap composite concrete bricks and stones with mushed together stone dust!
People laugh when they know I built an old solid stone and brick ex local authority place. Still stood strong after 65 years. Most of these noddy houses will be falling apart in 10 years because they are built with no clerk of works.
So Basicly Dont Touch a new build with a barge pole..........
Did you even watch the video?
@@11clarkmobviously you didn’t…
Feels like he did watch it. Basically building on a budget for the most profit.
After buying a new build from Bloor (one of the more reputable companies!) ... Never again, we had a snagging list with nearly 150 items! Kitchen was flooded , worktop damaged, toilet cracked, "forgot" to put a window in the garage....the list was ridiculous. Took 2 years to get near to being sorted then we found out all the Hardiplank exterior had been fitted wrong and the whole development had to have the exteriors replaced!
Blimey!
That sounds about right for new builds....
Really an eye opener seeing how these new builds are constructed.
Propane fire does not take moisture out. It adds moisture
Portable gas heaters produce a lot of water and Co2 this can cause damp problems in a house.
Ordering a house on Temu
Another bad thing is that you get hardly any garden. You pay a premium for a detached house, but there's only an 8ft distance to the next house.
And you pay extra for grass...
It's all about squeezing as many properties onto the site as possible. Maximise profits.
@@plumberparts I got grass in my 1986 new build. It covered up all the plastic & building rubble they left behind!! I've been digging it up for the last 38 years!!
@colingoode3702 I've had the same problem, my house is 1986 build. Doing work in the garden building a shed and doing the lawn, found so much glass. Must have been common back then. Still finding the stuff every now and then.
@@stepbackandthink New developments now look like trays of model houses before their spread over a train layout.
Hi Jimmy, I worked in construction up here in Scotland for over 40 years and have rarely seen plaster skimmed walls. It is almost always dry lined and taped plasterboard. The radiator pipe wall plates are fairly common, but the metal studs are almost always for commercial use only. I worked for a company once who tried one house with metal studs but when the house owner tried to hang something on the wall they were in for a shock when there was no CLS timber studs. Metal studs totally not suitable for domestic use. Good video though.👍
Imagine trying to hang your led tele on an arm ,wouldn’t be possible
You still have block to drill into
I live in a new build house, and in my kitchen under the sink, the plumbers left a spare water pipe with cold water with an isolation valve on its end to connect a water filter . It was very clever of them since i dont have to cut into the main pipe to do it.
We purchased a new build two years ago, a local regional builder who used slightly better materials i.e. timber used for the porch area etc. It’s detached and on a corner plot so there’s a bit of distance between us and the surrounding properties separated by brick walls rather than wooden fences.
Half way through the build the local builder was acquired by Vivid, and whilst the later properties look similar you can see where corners have been cut in the kitchen, bathroom fittings, no more brick wall boundaries and so on.
Our house has been constructed for the lowest possible cost behind the scenes of that I have no doubt, but we wanted to live in this location a greenfield site bordering the South Downs. As things wear out we’ll replace with quality but I take your point new builds are built with the cheapest of cheap and they’re thrown up, quality is as rough as a dogs arse but it’s been that way for a long time.
Chucked up to house new arrivals, the 1% though are doing very well out of it.
Exactly, some developments in Cambridge have sales offices in Hong Kong. They'll have bought it before they set foot in it.
My house was built in 2004, also has those 50mm metal studs and painted plasterboard. Tried removing tiles in bathroom and they'd tiled straight onto plasterboard so the walls came with them! Nightmare. Also every floor squeaks and the wall between the lounge and kitchen even creaks when walking in kitchen! All joists are engineered I-joists and there are steel beams on every floor which makes me suspect that the joists weren't right for the spans and needed additional support as an afterthought. No noggins or braces between joists so I suspect they are twisting as I've replaced all the nails with screws and they still creak!
I wouldn't touch a new build with a bargepole......krap!
For the same price you can get an old house that needs 40k spent on it.
@@ivermektin6874possibly, but this new house looks like it won't be standing in 40 years. Whichever mug gets left holding it could lose their main asset.
@@davethatcher4954 The general mass of new builds haven't moved on from the 90's you just get less of a plot with a nice plastic water meter box stuck next to your front door
used to be block walls or stud wall 4 inches wide plus plaster door lining used to be 133 mm wide or 5 and a quarter aluminium are 50mm, 70mm and 92mm never seen 92mm in a property, work tops should be 600mm wide u find out in the small houses there 500 ish if there's no doors on in the property that's to make the room look bigger ask to see the same type of property with doors on doors should be 30 inches or bigger to make access easy my farther was going to get a new house after i tapped the wall and it vibrated all the way along he decided his 30 year old house would do.
Our property is 30 years old, mix of timber and metal studs, copper microbore for rads (inhibitive for ASHP install) and small garden (not as small as newer builds). Apart from that it was built to a good standard, which is perfect for us, considering better energy efficiency and less repair costs vs older properties.
I spent eighteen months looking at houses in Edinburgh, and found nothing built after 1939 that I could live in. They were squalid little rabbit hutches with no style nor comfort, and built to fall apart. The 1930s houses were livable, but noticeably worse than the Victorian and Georgian houses. Eight feet is NOT a high ceiling! In an attic, perhaps, but in a man room 12" is a high cieling.
Don't you live in the tank museum Lloyd??😂
If I'm not mistaken 8 feet is about 2.4 meters, in most European countries the minimum ceiling height is 2.75m, which is about 9 feet. A hogh ceiling is considered to be at least 3 meters, which is like 10 feet 😁 Btw my favourite term is "box room", not sure if that refers to the size or quality 🤣
@@TrafficJamForever A box room is a room to put boxes in! Because it's too small to fit the average human... It's a big cupboard really 😂
loving the stuck on GRP porch 👌
that expansion gap on the front of the house, looks terrible!
Agreed place it somewhere on the side surely
RIDIIICKILOUS!
Actually, that's idiotic. Dilatations are very useful (and necessary) over the poured, reinforced concrete floors (look at your local supermarket), but on the front walls? Grout or pointing will equalise the stresses. Don't quote me on that, but you need to dilatate approx 25 meters long poured single concrete streak, but the 3 meters wall?? Joke, unless they built it on quicksand.
It's not an expansion gap, it's a movement joint.
The house arrived in two parts and they just glued them together 😂😂
They've matched the colour of that expanding foam round the door beautiful 😮
I've seen worse 😅 we call the new builds cardboard housing . The public haven't a clue what they are buying
It's not finished, there's a flashing still to go over that i'd reckon.
Undersized ijoists, leaks in the ceiling during wind driven rain, creaking stairs, doors not aligned, fire alarms not interconnected...creaking shower tray and uneven lawn in garden. Just a few of the faults in a new build that i purchased!
I really love how houses are getting smaller and smaller, and more expensive.
This is amazing
You can't even get key interior building materials up those stairs of death!!!
Hardi board in a shower? Ha youll be lucky! Theyll be tiling straight onto that plasterboard, no tanking either. As long as the tiles dont fall off for 2 years the builders are happy.
But the metal studs are slightly better than wood, it doesnt move when the house dries out so less cracking
Sadly I think you're right!
@@plumberparts He is certainly right but they might give the plasterboard a coat of waterproofer if the house is being bought by a bank. It shouldn't be allowed now as the British Standard ammendment calls for tanking.
@@SkillBuilderI had a big argument with the NHBC about this and they insisted that green plasterboard is fine for use in showers and bathrooms. I gave up in the end and replaced it myself with kerdi board
They still dont tank the wet areas to british standard. Itll be tiled direct to the green plasterboard
@@Cascatackbexactly my point
What a surprise. An Ideal Boiler. With a "amazing" modulation rate of barely over 5:1. If that place is well insulated, which it probably is then I would expect that boiler to end up cycling and costing, whoever buys it, money.
What's the total radiator load going to be in that place? 4.8kW is the boiler's minimum output.
Are Ideal boilers no good?
@@ln5747 They are robust/rugged but also cheap and simple with few of the features that are needed to make them effective in the current age of efficiency combined with a poor modulation ratio of approximately 5 to 1.
So a builder, not wanting to spend a lot of money and not caring about how much it will cost the buyer, will of course fit an Ideal boiler.
If you have an older home with a high heat loss an Ideal boiler will be... Ideal.
Interesting!! I've mostly owned Victorian houses, currently living in 60's bungalow. All so easy to work on. Those modern places look like you'd never want to touch anything.
As an ex building surveyor I can say that all houses are built poorly! Except nice Georgian houses,they built them quite well!
Great look at new construction. I noticed that all of the stub outs and drains were left open. How is the plumber required to test the drain and water system?
Here in the northeast of the U.S., we will test the system by plugging the outlet of the main drain, cap or plug the drain openings, and then fill the system with water until it erupts out of the vent.
We use air a lot for that now, but the water method you describe is my fave!
@@plumberparts water filled at first fix can easily be checked throughout the build, if loss of water then a problem can be sorted at that stage, why wait till finals to air test?
Nothing will convince me to buy a new build!! Even though current regs are better than they were, it's the cheap materials and lack of attention to detail just so the building companies can make as much profit as they can!!!
Plus the walls are so thin!
if they built it properly it would not need that horrific joint on the front of the house.
Current regs are meaningless corruption between planners and developers
Top viewing and certainly eye opening.
Thanks!
I am so glad I live in a old house with proper brick walls plastic central heating ?????? i have seen these in action and they go all over the place .
My thoughts exactly - ours is 1930s with double skin brick throughout. I was shocked at the upstairs bit. Gobsmacked...
ours is 1895
Not a fan of new builds. The old houses are cold with damp smell you can never remove, sometimes.
@@MegaMicraman well all you do with a old house is get it ventilated and you will get no damp but also check the path around the house has not gone above the natural damp course we have lived in this one for 53 years and do not have damp
A fire door is not required on a toilet as the likelihood of a fire emanating from a toilet is negligible compared to a kitchen and a lounge.
I work on new build houses with metal stud and have always wondered what’s the point of putting id wire on plastic pipes so people can identify where the pipes are even though that could be a stud
Ha! Good point!
Not skimming walls.....a nightmare when they're wallpapered and a future owner wants to remove it. Virtually impossible without ruining the plasterboard.
Seal the walls before painting. most other countries don't skim and they are fine.
But don't get me wrong these houses are still completely shite!
Plastering over plasterboard is not really necessary. The British have a strange obsession with plastering
Not to mention hundreds of screwheads popping
@@Thereishope664 Your absolutely bang on with the non plastered finish it's cheap and nasty no moisture barrier whatsoever
They started to do in the 1990's then stopped but it's back again with vengeance just to save more money on the horrid red brick and red roof box's
How long until we start seeing mineral felt roofing tiles?
How are you supposed to hang anything on those walls - no depth, no timber?
Exactly the same as a timber wall
Find a stud & screw into it
Not rocket science,
If there's no stud fit a pattress or use togle fixings
The enshittification of the UK is depressing.
I'm trying to leave! Plumbing videos from Spain?
It really is depressing. Everyone keeps complaining about immigrants but really this is our own government not putting proper regulations in (probably for kick backs from the greedy building companies) and profit, profit, profit.
@@sky37blue Can't it be a mixture of everything?
Havjng just DIYd a bathroom, shoud i have used all moisture boards? Seems Overkill? Ive but tile backers for the shower.
Propane heaters do nothing but add moisture
That’s what I thought, dehumidifier required!
All this plastic minibore pipe is okay but the fittings have a rubber seal in 'em. In my experience of rubber seals including waste pipes, they can go flat and hard in time and leak! But how do you access them in these modern nightmares? It's a case of fit and forget and keep your fingers crossed. Huge bills for some poor person to deal with. Good video though.
Excellent point and you're right.
Gas in, mini bore, no sign of any solar anywhere, perfect for heat pu... oh.
£600K. Modern Britain. Brilliant stuff...
Agreed. So disappointing that gas still being put in new builds in 2024.
My thoughts exactly. An absolute disgrace.
Bathroom is not a habitable space, so does not need a a Fire door. the rest of the rooms need Fire doors, but only if the building is 3 story plus.
As a site manage I always insisted on pipes being 100m off stud walls in floors. All ground level copper was fitted once the roof goes on before the CABER floors went down.
Cheers man! Did need that clarifying!
Can I ask did all fire doors have to have them ugly door closers above??
Maybe they’re also lightweight so if someone like a kid locked themselves in, it’s easier to rescue them?
@kingofthetrowel1725 no that's only in commercial spaces, in a house only the garage needs a closer
@@pauldavies7251 does it matter if it’s a chain puller or overhead closer 🤔
Just curious, why would you have an immersion heater in a new build and not a combi boiler?
They're fine, I've lived in older houses and newer builds, they all have their own issues. New builds tend to have a lack of attention to detail, so work on the assumption you're going to need to redecorate, possibly even re-plaster when you move in. Older houses tend to just be a merry go round of stuff failing and constant maintenance.
Turns out there's no such thing as a move in and forget home.
I've bought an old victorian stonen house. Spent alot so far. Damp proofing courses. Failed drainage systems underground that needed excavating, plumbing issues. new windows, new front door, full central heating needed installing, new guttering needed to be fitted, couple of small roof issues. Cellar still needs to be tanked. Needs repointing to at some point but eventually it'll be perfect 😂 the grind of doing up an old property!
@@markroyds23 I live in a house that was built in 1879. Sure, there were issues but that's all been taken care of and now I just LOVE this beautiful old house. (And the more that "ticky tacky" houses proliferate, the rarer and more special Victorian houses become.) Good luck with your new old home.
Build better foundations and make the mortar weaker then the brick solves the crack brick problem or take it to the next stage and use the 2000 year old system and use lime mortar which repairs it self.
New house ,,,Mdf ....plastic..... plaster borad ... old house.....bricks ...concrete.....prob wood etc ... hmmmm
Shame isn't it, our house was built 75 yeard ago by the council and is still going strong with a few modern additions, these won't last more than 30-40 years in my opinion.
it's pure greed and the fact in the UK (and i'm sure elsewhere) we treat housing purely as a business/investment.
old house.... ASBESTOS EVERYWHERE!!!!! 😷😷😷😷😷
@@BillyGold007 not as scary as all that for most people who have very limited exposure and fine if properly removed.
Every where. Yeah sure lol
@@BillyGold007 did you buy a new build to avoid asbestos by any chance?!
no bathroom doors are not included, unless the construction around the bathroom does not meet fire standards or the fire will simply bypass to create a potential means of escape issue!
Very cool vid. Nice to see how these modern houses are built.
Glad you enjoyed it
There's newbuilds over my way and i noticed when putting the walls up its a metal frame with insulated panels the outside had fake brick panels with just proper brick from the foundation to the damp course. That fella saying they had a join going thru the exterior stone work to avoid cracks didn't really sound genuine, who expects shoddy foundations as standard so subsidence must be mitigated?
Pretty much every company prioritizes profit, which means the customer usually suffers with a less good value for money worse product. Our economic system incentivizes this as bigger companies have more buying power, get better prices, and more profit, allowing more speculation and a positive feedback loop into profit.
Ultimately it's the governments place to step in and set the standards to prevent companies from screwing over customers, and they evidently aren't doing. They're talking about decarbonizing energy but these houses are going to need ripping apart to be able to fit a cheap and efficient heat pump.
We need the government to step up and legislate good minimum standards for all these things. As a country we would have better houses if we spend the money once doing the job right, rather than pay for the half arse initial job and then have to come back and pay silly money to redo the job later. Paying slightly more once results in a better result for less total investment.
Do the job once. Do it right.
Couldn't agree more
@@jakestokes2203me too but you just know whichever government is in power will be taking brown envelopes full of cash not to fix the legislation
Why put a spy hole in a door that has 9 glass blocks at eye level?
Card board sheds, Push fit Plumbering,,
I would like to know how those meter tails comply with the regs.
On the plus side, All the family can talk to each other no matter what room they're in as the walls are so shit lol
This is no exaggeration. A guy I worked with bought a new build, semi detached. He said it was like having his neighbour in the same room. He could hear every detail of every conversation, every click of the light switch. He moved.
Out of curiousity once we viewed a show house for a new build project. I went in to the toilet located by the entrance, closed the door, my wife went to the other side of the house, closed both doors behind her, we still could have a decent conversation. There was a couple on the first floor, we both heard everything they were saying 🤣
@@TrafficJamForever it's a disgrace isn't it! The govt should be legislating that these companies build decent houses, they're certainly not cheap to buy.
Thought new regs didn’t allow 10mm in walls
Honestly don't know bro, but it's look pretty crap to me anyway - hate the way they pipe the rads but it's the way of the world now!
Also say hi to your Mum for me...
Won’t be air source compatible I wouldn’t have thought then. Surprised they’re still running gas, also thought new builds had to have 3 phase mains electrics for car charging now? Apologies if I’m wrong and this is “ misinformation “
@@Mr_Ashleydepends when planning was passed..
@@Mr_Ashley RE 3 phase no, its not a standard currently but there will be a 100A single phase supply. Ev chargers are normally a spec thing or a planning condition and there a maximum of 7kw. Air source compatible no more than a house built 40 years ago due to it being a gas boiler (they wont care about the future of the property once the ink is dry on the contract). as for mains gas that would be acceptable as the planning would have been done before the cut off i forget the exact date sorry.
New builds that incorporate air source these days tend to be underfloor heating on the ground and then 15mm tails on upstairs rads and run glycol at a lower temperatures.
James maybe knocking the installation materials but as he said its built to a minimum price for maximum profit also builder will normally dictate the plumbing spec due to kickbacks from the manufactures.
Gotta keep those shareholders happy!!! TBF the workmanship looks high in comparison to other house builders *coughs Persimmon*
Is everything house development like this in England. There's alot of gear in there protecting the building like shower trays. Scotland is so far behind with stuff like that. But we do use wooden studs 😮
As an immigrant i can honestly say that houses in uk are nothing but matchboxes at a very high price. The lack of storage is tremendous and even the houses that look big on the outside are still small on the inside. Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticising, im just expressing my opinion.
I'm sure that staircase does not apply to fire regs shouldn't have fireboard plasterboard because it's a means of Escape
Expansion joint nothing holding the two together then, but of course silicone will hold it duh, it just means one half can drift away at anytime.
Sketchy AF.
Only way to go is self build and manage the trades yourself. Better bang for your buck and the peace of mind the job was done right.
You pay through the nose for the land.
I thought it was common knowledge that you never, ever buy a new build. End of. A mate of mine is a surveyor and I asked him if he would buy a new build. He said he would buy from small independent companies that might only build five or so houses a year as they build a quality product, but he wouldn't touch anything the major housebuilders throw up with a barge-pole.
But we are our own worst enemy. If people didn't buy this shite then they would be forced to raise their game. But idiots still buy this crap. So they will keep building it.
Same here!
Also with this on average a new build house has a life span for 40 to 60 years .
The Victorians but far better house that last must much longer with less tools
@@samuelweightman i think even that is generous, i'd guess 30-40 to be honest.
Yep, plenty of Victorian houses near us still look great, some are 150 years old.
Our 75 year old council house is still in great shape. it can be done, it's just pure greed. It has become big business so corners get cut to maximise profit.
most used homes, were new homes, that no1 would touch them with a barge pole decades ago
@@cbflazaro but the standard in the last 20 years or so has plummeted to the point where they are basically disposable items.
Where did u get the fleece from?
When my daughter bought a Redrow house we went to inspect it before they moved in and the architraves were about 20mm from the floor! When I asked the site manager why he said they are all cut off site! So I said well that’s ridiculous! In the end they came round and cut 20mm bits and glued them in! Tossers 😡
Hate dry lining .
It always seems a little skimpy!
@@plumberparts quicker up quicker sell
@@leeholke9851it's actually to do with U values,
Rough & set doesn't meet regs,
In very near future only timber frame houses will meet U values unless you build a 20pmm cavity,
So much clueless information in this video it's laughable
@@pauldavies7251 solid property's have better u value with insulation.also the u value will last longer as it don't fall apart
Dont need fire doors on a bathroom as its a non habitable room but a lot still fit them
Yes the expansion joint…sorry what’s the point with the facade with a gap like that? You wouldn’t need that with brick ? Am I wrong ?
What's your overall verdict??? Definitely the improved insulation, modern boiler and new mortar are a bonus but they do feel so cramped, walls so thin and pipework so flimsy!
Was this in Gosberton by any chance?
All standard practice on big builder developments. The small one off builder does generally build with some traditional materials. Hate plastic pipes with a passion and the metal stud work is borrowed from office partitioning.
I have seen a few new builds in the UK I was thinking to buy and all of them had multiple problems and were in my opinion low quality, bad value, badly finished, and would require extensive remedial work. This video does not change my mind about avoiding new builds. Are those half facing bricks? And as said already,that expansion slot looks bodged
I am surprised that the developer let you film.
I'd like to see a comparison of a proper brick built new build house compared with a new build timber framed house. What do you think is better?
1:35 Bathroom doors don't have to be fire doors because they're not on "habitable" rooms; or at least people don't in theory sleep there, so occupants should notice a fire more quickly. Whereas bedroom doors have to resist heat for longer as you might not realise tberes a fire, as you're potentially asleep.
That's the basic logic
I’d rather let Anne widicombe sit on my face than buy a new build. Just bought my first house, a late 20s council house. One of the first built. Solid as a rock
OMG - painted plasterboard.... that's horrendous!!!! American quality! All that money and the place doesn't even get plastered!!!!!! They wouldn't get a penny of my money
We've been doing it in Scotland for many years. The filling gets done in 3 stages and the finish is good if done right.
@@Ed.Ryeah my house was built in 93 and that’s what they did… finish is perfect. Kinda confuses me why you would cover a perfectly flat board with a layer plaster.
the plasterboard already has a "finish" on it, skimming is a hangover from when we used to use lathe walls, if you havent smashed your drywall to bits, have filled all fixings and joints in decent fashion then of course it can be painted straight over
@johnadams1976 your obviously not in the trade & completely clueless just like the plumber making the video,
Why would you cover a perfectly flat plasterboard with a skim coat?
The misinformation in this video is quite embarrassing thinking it's a tradesman fiming it,
@@pauldavies7251😂😂😂
be nice to see if these last a 100 years
Like old council homes, they will, because there's no other option.
Those 600k houses are worth 350k where I live in Preston Lancashire
Shame the windows are Eurocell 😑
just a question - why does the council not insist that these new builds always have a rainwater sump included as a requirement ?
We are constantly having water pollution when there is quite a lot of rain as surface water going down the drains have no where to go 1
The second problem less surface rain not soaking in to the water table will mean less water that the water companies can pump out of the ground with all these new builds it a disaster that can be avoided .
Already south west water are having a water bill review and will charge customers 3x the current price during the summer .
This is a problem that will only get worse -349 litres per day for the average household there are More than 8,600 homes are due to be built every year across Devon. that's is an extra 3001400liters of water that has to come from some where , yes a disaster is not long away
Quite interesting how the building methods vary around the country. I'm in Scotland, new houses are generally built as kits, i.e. timber frame and the bricks on the outside are purely for cladding / weatherproofing. Not sure if partition walls in new builds are still built from timber or if they use that god awful metal stuff but exterior walls have insulation installed in the timber framework and are boarded over conventionally with plasterboard, the outside of the frame i.e. between the frame and the bricks gets boarded over with OSB or plywood and covered with breather paper so from outside to inside you have bricks, air gap, OSB, insulation, plasterboard. We don't generally fully skim plasterboard walls, just tape and fill the joins and screw holes, skimming the full wall seems to be an English obsession. In general in Scotland we don't have solid or cavity walls. Old houses were built of stone and a wooden framework was built inside and fixed to the stonework with wooden plugs (or dooks as they were called), the framework was then covered over with lath and plaster. The only difference with new houses is the timber frame work walls holds the roof up rather than the stones, and plasterboard has replaced the lath and plaster, but the basic concept is the same. All in all though the build quality in new builds here is just as bad. The thing that annoys me the most is the roofs, the attics are utterly useless, you have to have the stupid floor on stilts due to cheaping out on the insulation and need to have it about 3ft deep and there is no room for anything as they use the thinnest wood possible for the roof trusses and end up with mad W shaped trusses whereas if they used good old 8" x 2" they could get away with an A frame truss and have a useable attic.
I don't get the obsession in new builds for having bathrooms absolutely everywhere, a downstairs toilet, family bathroom and en suite in the master bedroom is perfectly adequate for anything 5 bedrooms or less, it's just a mechanism for upselling IMO.
In UK, there are very few builders. Most of people calling themselves "builders" are crooks and incompetents.
There are too many tradesmen who are badly trained dishonest chavs. They bodge jobs at will and there is no accountability. They go from job to job, bodge it, then charge the customer a lot of money. There needs to be more accountability in the construction industry, tradesmen who do work that does not comply with building regulations should be going to prison. If a tradesman does a job badly you should be able to phone the police and get the tradesman charged with a criminal offence. At the moment if you tried to phone the police they would just say it was a civil offence and ignore you.
This is NOT the fault of the trades. Developers do not give them enough time to do a proper job, so all those with any ethics around quality leave the industry soon enough.
@@Paul-XCIV2 as usual, people blame the little man rather than the big guy that cut every corner to avoid a new lambo
I wonder why people never attack the one that has the legal responsibilities? Always going after the easy scapegoat..
I can tell you as bricklayer no all money taken out of it before bricklayer is layed tight prices mean rushed jobs subcontractors to blame
Lol beutifull garden! Brick walls around 😅😅
omg 50mm office stud wall great.
I have worked on housing developments from small builders to the largest developers over the last 17yrs.
I would be happy to own less then 1% of them. They would only be from builders developing a few properties on a site and who take pride in character, quality and attention to detail.
I bought a new build Persimmon home, never again! was an absolute nightmare the way they had piped round windows, plenty pipes got drilled into, terrible electrics, terrible site managers, cowboys drafted in from everywhere!
I worked on a Persimmon new build and left after a day because the site was shocking. I'm not saying all of them are though.
My fave part of some new builds is those fibre glass dormers 😅😅😅
The real question is would you buy it after seeing how everything is about cost minimisation and not at all about energy efficiency, comfort or low cost longevity? I certainly wouldn't but to be fair in Australia most new builds (where the builder doesn't go bankrupt) are far worse.
I guess most don’t know.
Would be really interesting to know how much it costs in labour and materials to build one of these homes?
You'd be shocked as to how expensive it is to build these days,
The materials have gone ridiculous & the labour is huge to be able to cover the middle man's costs
Enjoyed the video. did anyone notice it got a bit David Brent and Chris finch at 14:06 haha
How can there not be profit in a 600 grand house when everything is done on the cheap.
Unpopular opinion: owner of a new build and a 1930s house. NB is warm, lovely, no issues after buying it 12 years ago. 1930 terrace - drafty shite, in winter i avoid certain rooms . NB can work.
How does that guy not get the sack for slagging the place off!?!?!?! They look cheap as crap! But surely if he works there, he shoud be bigging it up!!!!!
Phil's a top lad and been on site for ages. Plus he's a subby and the only one who cares!
@@plumberparts yeah it's on my doorstep and it's been 4yrs of work. I would love to go back into commercial work on big projects but that's dried up. But I can't see me staying in new builds for too long.
Tbf thats not bad workmanship for newbuilds Ive seen way worse from other house builders (you know the ones whos ceo gets £75M bonus while screwing down the contractors on site) . The rad loops up and over would be like that so they don't fix the brackets to their own pipes. Yes the 10mm down the walls could be better supported, not often you see sleeves on pipes through the top plate or full length copper drops supported by a noggin or boss's for the toilets.
The builders stipulate a lot of plumbing/electrical specs like Hep, Tribune and Roca Hager Deta due to rebates for using those accessories. Sparkies on point! cables in zones boxes protected to keep the mud slingers out, noggins for boxes and lights not drylining boxes everywhere.
New builds have had a bad wrap for a lot of years but i've worked for both over 30 years and self builders they've been worse at times Horses for courses really. You get good ones and bad ones!
As for the price, Its like Phil and Kirsty say LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION!!
I've done exactly the same house types for the same builder on different sites 40 miles apart and £100K different in sale price!
Blimey!
What's happened to the stone work, those sizes should be random layed. and saved £350 by not using fake heads and cils.
Not sure why that brick needs to be separated since the wall is not particularly long. Can only assume some issue with the ground in that area?
As for the quality of new builds, does anyone think the vast majority of houses ever built were to a very high standard? Pretty much every other home is full of bodges, whenever it was made. Some builders back in the day likely using their pint of beer to act as a level.
Make a wall that doesn’t move