Are NEW BUILDS any good?
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So Basicly Dont Touch a new build with a barge pole..........
All ready for the turkey teeth, itv 2, French Bulldog and financed Audi
😂😂😂😂 This comment has got me mate! 😂
Deano!
Rofl and the usb socket 😂
and the grey paint
I'm dien 😂
that expansion gap on the front of the house, looks terrible!
Agreed place it somewhere on the side surely
RIDIIICKILOUS!
Actually, that's idiotic. Dilatations are very useful (and necessary) over the poured, reinforced concrete floors (look at your local supermarket), but on the front walls? Grout or pointing will equalise the stresses. Don't quote me on that, but you need to dilatate approx 25 meters long poured single concrete streak, but the 3 meters wall?? Joke, unless they built it on quicksand.
It's not an expansion gap, it's a movement joint.
The house arrived in two parts and they just glued them together 😂😂
Nothing will convince me to buy a new build!! Even though current regs are better than they were, it's the cheap materials and lack of attention to detail just so the building companies can make as much profit as they can!!!
Plus the walls are so thin!
@@plumberparts You cannot play around with the interior walls as you can do with breeze block. How do you fixe wall lights to these thin plaster board walls without ending up with a large hole, when the lamps pull away, and outside walls, laugh, movement.
New house ,,,Mdf ....plastic..... plaster borad ... old house.....bricks ...concrete.....prob wood etc ... hmmmm
Old houses breeze block interior walls which you can play around with, being solid, plaster board is a fecking night mare, and to replace the wood beams with metal shows how cheap and nasty the build is, and for movement of the outer walls, what the hell is all that about?
Nope, plain and simple. Put up by cowboys, all about getting as much money as possible for as little work as possible. Forget being professional and pride in your work
Agreed mate
Laugh, to replace solid interior walls with plaster board is as bad as it gets. What the hell can you really do with this thickness of plaster board, hang some lights on it, and oops, one large hole, some large paintings, more holes. At least if there is a fire no walls would remain, so you can get out fast, the only thing standing would be the approved fire doors
I thought it was common knowledge that you never, ever buy a new build. End of. A mate of mine is a surveyor and I asked him if he would buy a new build. He said he would buy from small independent companies that might only build five or so houses a year as they build a quality product, but he wouldn't touch anything the major housebuilders throw up with a barge-pole.
But we are our own worst enemy. If people didn't buy this shite then they would be forced to raise their game. But idiots still buy this crap. So they will keep building it.
Same here!
Also with this on average a new build house has a life span for 40 to 60 years .
The Victorians but far better house that last must much longer with less tools
OMG - painted plasterboard.... that's horrendous!!!! American quality! All that money and the place doesn't even get plastered!!!!!! They wouldn't get a penny of my money
Shame the windows are Eurocell 😑
And why are they putting boilers in, where are all the environmental saving products like, solar panels, ashp, etc...
Also no consideration of future proofing things with everything done in plastic for the stupid little radiators which will need pulling out.
This! It should be law that you need to future proof this, if we end up with heat pumps then we're going to need bigger pipes
Dunno but a HE gas boiler is fine imo. I'm not totally convinced by the climate change stuff either.
With the tiny back gardens they give you & minimal space between the houses there's nowhere to position a Heat Pump without exceeding the maximum night time noise level of 40dBA at a neighbours boundary / nearest open window. I think Wales has even stricter regs regarding HP locations. Plenty of YT vids of people having to site ugly HP's in less than ideal positions to comply. This is one reason why I've not gone HP yet. Also because I've got 10mm microbore pipes (copper) to all my rads. I'm sticking with my gravity system HE boiler for now & use my solar & batteries to offset the running cost of the gas.
Are new builds any good
Seems not just easy quicker ways to errect+ occupied, cutting corners plastic pipe and separated wall for less subsistence.
Wtf
Let the land settle long enough and better foundatoons.
That chippy don't seem 2 give a shit either... is he the build contractor.. OMG go somewhere else...
Pretty much every company prioritizes profit, which means the customer usually suffers with a less good value for money worse product. Our economic system incentivizes this as bigger companies have more buying power, get better prices, and more profit, allowing more speculation and a positive feedback loop into profit.
Ultimately it's the governments place to step in and set the standards to prevent companies from screwing over customers, and they evidently aren't doing. They're talking about decarbonizing energy but these houses are going to need ripping apart to be able to fit a cheap and efficient heat pump.
We need the government to step up and legislate good minimum standards for all these things. As a country we would have better houses if we spend the money once doing the job right, rather than pay for the half arse initial job and then have to come back and pay silly money to redo the job later. Paying slightly more once results in a better result for less total investment.
Do the job once. Do it right.
Thought new regs didn’t allow 10mm in walls
Honestly don't know bro, but it's look pretty crap to me anyway - hate the way they pipe the rads but it's the way of the world now!
Also say hi to your Mum for me...
Won’t be air source compatible I wouldn’t have thought then. Surprised they’re still running gas, also thought new builds had to have 3 phase mains electrics for car charging now? Apologies if I’m wrong and this is “ misinformation “
@@Mr_Ashleydepends when planning was passed..
@@Mr_Ashley RE 3 phase no, its not a standard currently but there will be a 100A single phase supply. Ev chargers are normally a spec thing or a planning condition and there a maximum of 7kw. Air source compatible no more than a house built 40 years ago due to it being a gas boiler (they wont care about the future of the property once the ink is dry on the contract). as for mains gas that would be acceptable as the planning would have been done before the cut off i forget the exact date sorry.
New builds that incorporate air source these days tend to be underfloor heating on the ground and then 15mm tails on upstairs rads and run glycol at a lower temperatures.
James maybe knocking the installation materials but as he said its built to a minimum price for maximum profit also builder will normally dictate the plumbing spec due to kickbacks from the manufactures.
Gotta keep those shareholders happy!!! TBF the workmanship looks high in comparison to other house builders *coughs Persimmon*
500k - and no parking place. Who agrees to build those expensive favelas?
Agree, plus the roads are narrow, they don't want you parking there, but don't give you 2 car spaces on the driveway. I hate the side parking bay as you have to put one car behind another which is a pain to move around.
Another bad thing is that you get hardly any garden. You pay a premium for a detached house, but there's only an 8ft distance to the next house.
And you pay extra for grass...
It's all about squeezing as many properties onto the site as possible. Maximise profits.
@@plumberparts I got grass in my 1986 new build. It covered up all the plastic & building rubble they left behind!! I've been digging it up for the last 38 years!!
The amount of problems that these house produce during the first couple of years that you move in is wild. Also where's the bunkers Incase of WW3?
Sketchy AF.
Only way to go is self build and manage the trades yourself. Better bang for your buck and the peace of mind the job was done right.
Top viewing and certainly eye opening.
Thanks!
New build crap 💩
As someone who (biggest mistake of life) took the keys to a David Wilson home 2 years ago, it's been nothing but a nightmare! Over 300 snags, 2 years to fix them all. Never. Ever. Again!
I’ve just sold my house built in the 60s and it was quality
Moved into a house built in 2003 and it’s fucking wank
No new builds of today are proper wank
Why did I move because we all do what the wife says don’t we lol
No Magna Clean on the heating system and a spyhole on the front door beside the windows 😂😂😂😂
How does that guy not get the sack for slagging the place off!?!?!?! They look cheap as crap! But surely if he works there, he shoud be bigging it up!!!!!
It is cheap, extremely cheap and nasty. The firm just laughs it all off because they know the things will be bought
Phil's a top lad and been on site for ages. Plus he's a subby and the only one who cares!
omg 50mm office stud wall great.
Hard to tell the quality at this stage by just watching this video. What can be sure is they will definitely be overpriced.
You can very much tell the quality at this stage. No plastering, metal stud work. Horrible quality
I wouldn't touch a new build with a bargepole......krap!
Are new builds any good? NO! Like and subscribe, see you next time
I live in a new build house, and in my kitchen under the sink, the plumbers left a spare water pipe with cold water with an isolation valve on its end to connect a water filter . It was very clever of them since i dont have to cut into the main pipe to do it.
Painted plasterboard, no wonder these places fall to pieces
They will be a reck in a few years, and who the hell approved of moving exterior walls?
Are new builds any good?
Short answer: No
Long Answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Why put a spy hole in a door that has 9 glass blocks at eye level?
the only bit of good work was done by the plumber parts fan
I know! That made me proud. I think the rads are done by another company and the boiler/airing cupboard is done by these guys.
In other words…No, they’re not very good
What a mess, overpriced rubbish
This would make for a Monty Python sketch
Disposable timber frame rubbish
Houses are just threw up. I wonder is there any insulation in those paper thin internal walls?
The interior walls are simply plaster board, basically, plaster encased in thick paper that cannot hold anything heavy on them without a large hole appearing. In the event of a fire you are better off as you can charge through the walls to get out. In proper built properties you had breeze block walls to contend with. I like how building regs say fire doors need to be fitted, when if a fire really does get going you will have the walls burnt up in minutes, leaving the fire doors standing. Madness
@@dougaldouglas8842 so you can't secure anything to a timber stud either. That metal stud is basically tin foil.
Hate dry lining .
It always seems a little skimpy!
@@plumberparts quicker up quicker sell
Hardi board in a shower? Ha youll be lucky! Theyll be tiling straight onto that plasterboard, no tanking either. As long as the tiles dont fall off for 2 years the builders are happy.
But the metal studs are slightly better than wood, it doesnt move when the house dries out so less cracking
Sadly I think you're right!
Never buy a new build !
Would not touch them with a barge pole, the interior walls are thin, so thin that hanging stuff on them is limited, certainly no wall lights as the plaster board would just not take the weight
The enshittification of the UK is depressing.
I'm trying to leave! Plumbing videos from Spain?
New builds are soulless. Boring, square rooms, low ceiling heights, detached homes in a line almost all identical with square gardens that back onto another garden usually on 3 sides.
The “garage” that can fit a car but won’t let you open the doors seems to have gone away thank to god.
Even if a new build does try to have some older features like wooden beams or a vaulted ceiling it just looks out of place.
When it comes to the utilities, I see way too often for example the water main, it comes into the home in a weird place at a weird angle and is just bashed in without any thought for the future. The boiler in this video has the pipe work immediately going into a wall. Going to be a nice little headache in 10-15 years time.
The BEST homes to buy are the old ones that have had their utilities updated. BUT!!!! They have been updated with the thought of the future.
I guess the conclusion to this comment is buy a home that has clearly been built with the future in mind.
Very interesting and eye opening for sure. I'm surprised they're still using bricks tbh.
Hi Jimmy, I worked in construction up here in Scotland for over 40 years and have rarely seen plaster skimmed walls. It is almost always dry lined and taped plasterboard. The radiator pipe wall plates are fairly common, but the metal studs are almost always for commercial use only. I worked for a company once who tried one house with metal studs but when the house owner tried to hang something on the wall they were in for a shock when there was no CLS timber studs. Metal studs totally not suitable for domestic use. Good video though.👍
Osb, push fit fittings, mdf boards. Absolutely she height. Buy one built in the 60s.
Spur marks and hoof prints everywhere 😂
50 years later, this house will be considered as an old, good built house in comparison to other new houses at that time. It's a circle of life.
This should be a new series and we can see who of the new build twonks are the worst. Stevens and Stevens will win hands down. Not a brain cell between them
Its a shame the countries housing has come to this we used to make the most beautiful houses
They're fine, I've lived in older houses and newer builds, they all have their own issues. New builds tend to have a lack of attention to detail, so work on the assumption you're going to need to redecorate, possibly even re-plaster when you move in. Older houses tend to just be a merry go round of stuff failing and constant maintenance.
Turns out there's no such thing as a move in and forget home.
Bathroom is not a habitable space, so does not need a a Fire door. the rest of the rooms need Fire doors, but only if the building is 3 story plus.
As a site manage I always insisted on pipes being 100m off stud walls in floors. All ground level copper was fitted once the roof goes on before the CABER floors went down.
Cheers man! Did need that clarifying!
Can I ask did all fire doors have to have them ugly door closers above??
Great look at new construction. I noticed that all of the stub outs and drains were left open. How is the plumber required to test the drain and water system?
Here in the northeast of the U.S., we will test the system by plugging the outlet of the main drain, cap or plug the drain openings, and then fill the system with water until it erupts out of the vent.
We use air a lot for that now, but the water method you describe is my fave!
@@plumberparts water filled at first fix can easily be checked throughout the build, if loss of water then a problem can be sorted at that stage, why wait till finals to air test?
You didn't explain why plastic mini bore pipes in the first room were a bad idea.
Which part of England is it? Ref price
Bath
Interesting!! I've mostly owned Victorian houses, currently living in 60's bungalow. All so easy to work on. Those modern places look like you'd never want to touch anything.
Don't blame the builders, blame the Government they put legislation in place. Building Standards are decided by the Government, I know I would not buy a new build, build your own.
easy to pass judgement but remember that some people have no choice but to buy a new build. I think people forget that they're only designed to last 60-80 years. If land prices werent so inflated either the cost wouldnt be so high.
Eh, some people have no choice but to buy new-build? Rightmove is full of houses that have been properly built - none of them new build
@@TheTW11 Most of them on there at above market rate or need £40K worth of refurbishment.
I have been on enough building sites. Enough to know not to buy one.
My house that was built in 1909 yes it is hard to heat but I know that it was built well.
0:42 you mean how houses were built for 100's of years? I'd walk away.
yes they are!once they are passed by British standards they can last for nearly two weeks.that guy on television bought a mansion for five hundred grand!it lasted a whopping three weeks before it was on the verge of collapse and ruin.he didn't do too badly either when he sold it back to the estate agents,he still got a whopping fifteen grand.he only lost four hundred and eighty five thousand on the deal.he's only twenty one.his financial advisor reckons that if he works three part time jobs,morning,noon and night,he could have it paid back when he turns eighty nine.he won't even be in his late nineties!not too shabby for a toilet cleaner on government assistance and 1984 rates of bridging allowance of sixteen quid a week! he only came away from harvard and oxford with a phd,a doctorate and an degree in advanced quantum mechanics and physics.these modern builders,they don't flaff about do they?my door sheds are normally in ruins by the next morning!and i'm supposed to be a master builder!
In answer to your question - NO.
My house was new in 1986 & came with a snagging list as long as both my arms. As far as I can see the new builds of today have not improved, in fact, they may have got even worse. I've watched some of those new build snag video's by the Welsh guy - ridiculous!!
Can't see much attention to detail in these examples just cost cutting. Also surprised they are using gas boilers & there's no solar - that I can see.
Those flat roof dormer windows on the top floor are utter junk built into a pitch roof. They should be pitched. Nothing but repairs in 20 years time
In the second build your asking for trouble with them looped up then down radiator pipes, someone's going to put a screw in them.
Also new builds are prime candidates for heat pumps, so why they are deciding to use micro bore is purely for cost and no other reason. Yes I know heat pumps can run on micro bore but they are most efficient on larger diameter pipes.
Unfortunately new builds are not what they should be, it's all about the money.
How long until we start seeing mineral felt roofing tiles?
I have seen a few new builds in the UK I was thinking to buy and all of them had multiple problems and were in my opinion low quality, bad value, badly finished, and would require extensive remedial work. This video does not change my mind about avoiding new builds. Are those half facing bricks? And as said already,that expansion slot looks bodged
I can almost forgive the dry-lining and cheap materials used, however I can't forgive the metal studs. Feels like if I were to lean on the wall it would come down!
In answer to the video title “NO”. This project looks like it has been “value engineered” to the hilt by the quantity surveyors. Hopefully the fire door linings will be fully filled between back of lining to the metal stud. Unfortunately the quality of housing is poor because site management are not experienced and do not carry out stage snagging at the first properties, so trades no what is expected and do not continue making the same mistakes throughout the rest of the project.
How things have changed eh overpriced rubbish when I worked for McLean homes they were built to a good spec all snagging done by the trades
Short answer - nope!
Now I'll watch the video and see what James actually has to say 😂
I'm sure that staircase does not apply to fire regs shouldn't have fireboard plasterboard because it's a means of Escape
They are all crap, dont go near any of them if your wise.
New builds are proper dog shit. How they get signed off for sale is beyond me!!
My God how depressing. They don’t make em like they used to!
Propane fire does not take moisture out. It adds moisture
Just a point, from the outset. Plaster board interior walls would not last five minutes with children around and what about hanging pictures because you are restricted to the beams that the plaster board is attached to? Further along no wooden beams, so you will have to use plaster board plugs, which are not ideal, and if you accidently put a hole in the wall you are going to have to pay for someone to fill the hole in.
Just look at the thickness of the interior plaster board walls. I am just staggard at the interior walls. We used to use breeze block, safe and sound. This lot will not last the test of time, cheap and sell high, and the walls outside, do not get me started.
Never, never. never buy a new build, and wonder what the entrance door size is because some are only twenty four inches wide, so restricting the size of furniture you can pass through them.
Spyhole on that front door... WTF😂
New builds look at water and fall apart
Some are , some are not so good
Hi mate, I’m the plumber that fitted the cylinder! I’m a 2nd year apprentice and me and my supervisor are the guys that run this site! Sadly everything in these builds are priced up to have plastic pipe installed the in house (EVERYWHERE) not something I like doing at all but whenever I get a bit of work I can do in copper, like my cylinder I try and make it look as good as possible! This site was designed and had the groundwork’s put in before the new reg of part L came in which future proofs the house by instead having 15mm copper feeds to the radiators. So this is one of the final sites with plastic micro bore running to the radiators (we also install these sadly) we loop them so like you said they fit in the black back boxes and the pipes face downwards. We’ve always been told to loop them up and around to prevent us then screwing the pipes when we come to fix the radiator. But yes I agree it is rather crap quality but I’m someone on the side that takes a lot of pride in the work that goes in so very pleased with your words on the cylinder! Cheers
Thank you for the merch also!😁
Very cool James! In Baltimore I’ve seen the new homes being plumbed with pex and push fit fittings !! What did they use for shingles did I see slate on the new houses showed at the end?
Hi Doug, what do you mena by shingles? Might have another name for it this sode of the pond!
Shocking levels of quality. I would not touch a new build these days. Sad state of Britain.
Lets leave!
I would never buy a brand new house without me seeing it being built. Proper cheapskate development
They all are these days...
Tbf thats not bad workmanship for newbuilds Ive seen way worse from other house builders (you know the ones whos ceo gets £75M bonus while screwing down the contractors on site) . The rad loops up and over would be like that so they don't fix the brackets to their own pipes. Yes the 10mm down the walls could be better supported, not often you see sleeves on pipes through the top plate or full length copper drops supported by a noggin or boss's for the toilets.
The builders stipulate a lot of plumbing/electrical specs like Hep, Tribune and Roca Hager Deta due to rebates for using those accessories. Sparkies on point! cables in zones boxes protected to keep the mud slingers out, noggins for boxes and lights not drylining boxes everywhere.
New builds have had a bad wrap for a lot of years but i've worked for both over 30 years and self builders they've been worse at times Horses for courses really. You get good ones and bad ones!
As for the price, Its like Phil and Kirsty say LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION!!
I've done exactly the same house types for the same builder on different sites 40 miles apart and £100K different in sale price!
Blimey!
Build is shocking . How do you service the shower if anything goes wrong with the shower base . Plastic pex etc plumbing lines leach the chemical into drinking water for the life of the line , for heating its ok , can't beat copper anti microbial properties, etc ,
For the keyboard warriors , I know it's expensive . What price do you put on your family's health . All you need to do is buy James the nutters course , and you will be able to install copper . The saving will be incredible .
Dry lined plasterboard , no need to sand , if you apply properly after a couple of coat and you know your job it should be featherd out , also manufacturers do not recommend dry sanding as the dust caused is lethal . If anything, damp sand, the edges . It should say that on the back of the plaster /mud bag or call manufacturer .If I lived near you, james , I would show your viewers how easy it is . Lastly, to all you new plasterers before you go off half cocked , I love you all 😂
P.S. should read James the Plumbers Course and not nutter 👍.
Dont know how that happened .
Right on man!
Nope ….
Very cool vid. Nice to see how these modern houses are built.
Glad you enjoyed it
toy town crap, give me an older house every time
Same geez
Didn’t Phil have a UA-cam channel?
Yep, link in the description.
Horrible from top to bottom. Not even plastered ahhh
You need breeze block walls to use plaster on, like we used to have. This plaster board will not last five minutes in a family home, and try and hang something on the walls and the thickness of the plaster board would see you with holes in the wall
Can I ask why you hate the setup of the new plumbing of the rads. Is it simply that you don’t have the copper feeding from the floor. Do you ever use plastic?
For one the way they went up and then down again is bound to cause air locks
Air locks and all that pipe in walls scares me!
Wow only half a million. Definitely not a rip off
😂
location location location. I've worked on sites and done the exact same house types 40 miles apart and £100K in value difference.
13:00 Bosch boom box in the corner👌
That thing is a beast!
@@plumberparts I've had the original 24v version for about 20 years, still going strong, loud enough to fill a concert room!😁
new builds still using immersion heating elements.
Welcome to the 1900s.
How would you heat the hot water, when the gas boiler breaks down? Most new builds even large 4 beds are being heated by combi boilers, they should be happy with a stored hot water cylinder.
Before you answer electric boiler/instantaneous hot water heaters that's the same thing as an immersion only quicker 🤷♂
Cant see Greta being too chuffed if we went back to solid fuel boilers.
@@meuk6929maybe with an electric heatpump cylinder? Which uses 1/3 or 1/4 of the power of theses to generste the same heat perhaps?
Like the dimplex edel
With the added bonus that you can vent them INDOORS in the summer (and switch to outdoors in winter) and they cool the interior in the summer too.
Double savings
600 or 700k for a new build? Dear lord, what sort of excellent location those houses must be at to cost that much!
BAth!
@@plumberparts and you can’t even a bath in those houses, they all look to have several showers instead!