Arrma 4s Outcast/Kraton Servo Saver Upgrade. 3s 4s Hot Racing and Kimbrough. Steering Fixed?
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- Опубліковано 29 лип 2023
- Hi all. After my video where I highlight the difficulty I had steering my Arrma Outcast 4s, a few people suggested a servo saver upgrade. Thanks to all who gave me suggestions. Did it fix the issue? Well a bit but you'll need to watch the video for more details. Many thanks for watching. Please like and comment :-)
Good to see the saver upgrade worked in the end, the very reason i went with the Kraton 4s v2 was I didnt want a constant wheelie monster.The Kraton suited the type of driving I do better.
Hi there. Yeah I did nearly go for the Kraton but I got this because I like my Granite so much and thought this would be similar. I think that the Kraton probably works better in most situations. Many thanks for watching and your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍👍
Hi Pete and another great share of your RC knowledge! Good advice indeed and with a few fnarr, fnarr's thrown in along the way, ohh err! Stiffer certainly seems to be better when it comes to many things in life and RC related, too! Enjoyed as usual, mate, have a cracking evening there! 😎😎👍👍
Hiya mate. Oh yes you can't say stiffer or harder without a little fnarr 😂 Weather has stopped outdoor related fun today as you know but got some little indoor RC bits done. Cheers for watching and your great comments as ever. Best wishes 😁👍👍👍
Wow, such a great video explaining and articulating the frustration I have with my Kraton 4s. Thanks
Thank you for your kind feedback. You know I have a new found love for this truck now that I've done the steering mod and also now that the tyres have worn down a bit so it can slide the back round easier. Also it is much more fun on loose ground like I was saying in the video. Thanks again :-)
@@PeteWylieRC I've converted my K 4s from a slipper clutch to a central diff like the new V2.5, and that has reduced the wheelie a bit. I'm also ordered some tyres that doesn't bite as easily so hopefully that will help. Another option is to change the diff oils to reduce the wheelies a bit more. But that's a task for another day :-)
@@emilepieters1189the kraton still steers like crap even with the center diff. I did the servo saver mod to mine and it helped the steering tremendously. I used the kimbrough one.
Cracking video Pete , as you know I have one of these coming myself .
I think I’ll order the hot racing servo saver now seeing this video .
But as you said with it being heavier and chassis design don’t expect the world .
Be mindful of we’re your using it and how you drive .
Still very excited to pick mine up .
Thanks for the video once again buddy .
Oh yeah you'll have fun with it for sure Chris. Be interesting to see what you make of it. I think you'll like it but you'll still like your Big Rock the best. Cheers for watching mate :-)
great upgrade and video
Hi there. Yeah it does improve this one a bit. Many thanks for watching and your comments 😁👍
Looks like a blast though mate good information mate and nice footage 😊👍
Hiya Dom. Yeah this thing is good at what it does and fun if you've got a big space and slippery ground. Many thanks for watching mate. Much appreciated 😁👍👍
I'm sorry to see the servo saver upgrade didn't make that much of a difference Pete but at least this truck is still very drive able and still puts a big ole smile on your face plus you have your other Arrma trucks&buggy that I'm sure handle a lot better then this truck? Another awesome video m8👍👍😎😎👍👍
Hi there. Oh yeah I do still like this truck but I just need to drive it in lower traction environments. Yes the other cars are all still available for different terrains. Many thanks for your great support as ever. Best wishes 😁👍
Great video mate top tips 👍
Many thanks for watching and your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍👍
Dremel cut off wheel worked fine for me, and the Kimbrough is holding up after a couple dozen runs. You don't have to cut back much of the servo horn to make it fit. With that said, it's only slightly tighter than the original servo saver. I think that it's hard to build a stiffer (but still functional) servo saver in this form factor that can take the abuse that the Arrma 4S models give it.
Hi there. Yeah it's a shame they didn't put in an adjustable servo saver within the linkage rather than this servo mounted one. The 3s cars seem to work fine but the big wheels on this are too much for this servo saver. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍👍
I did same as you, used the kimborough though, didn't kill it lol and I put in a think a 45 kg ecoboost servo. You are so right, it's all about the surface you are running on. Tarmac not to bad but grass terrible and lose surface great as you can skid it round(more fun to). Cheers for you time
Hi there. Oh yeah silly me with the snippers on the Kimborough, oops! I did try to get the higher kg Ecoboost servo but out of stock at the time. Yes this thing does need a bit of slip with the back tyres and then it it really good fun. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁
Defenitively much better and stiffer after the change.maybethe car's made for looser ground. Nice video.
Hi there. Yeah this one is good for wheelies and jumps but not so good for steering. Loose ground does seem to work best. Many thanks indeed for watching and your kind feedback. Best wishes :-)
You are lucky in the USA, for us in France the servo saver costs us 2 x more with sending 😡.... improvement necessary on the steering of the arrma outcast👏
Hi there. I'm in the UK and it does seem like a lot of RC bits are cheaper in the US. I've been much happier with this truck since installing the upgrade so it's worth it. Many thanks for your great feedback 👍
Yeah i live in france too, had the same understeer issue w/ my k4s (v2.5) and ofc same price issue for non-arrma pieces :<
I just bought the HR servo saver, i am still waiting for it.
Are you happy too with the HR servo saver one ?
Thank you for your help replaced servo thus morning wow night and day so far best upgrade we now turn on a dime why arma this should had been factory The cvd drive shaft also went out lost back right back on bench I hope I get this dialed in soon get frustrated 😠
Glad the servo upgrade went well. I'm happier with mine now. Shame about your drive shaft. I've not broken one of those just yet. Many thanks indeed for watching and your comments 😁👍
I don't think I would get on with an Outcast. It looks really difficult to control. I did enjoy running your Typhon though. That is definitely a fun Arrma 😀👍🏼👍🏼
Hiya Derek. Oh yeah I think that the long wheelbase ones are easier to drive. This is mainly good for aiming at a jump or doing wheelie's. Thank you for watching mate. Best wishes to you and yours.
@@PeteWylieRC 🙂👍🏼👍🏼
FYI , I find using a jewelers file works well for trimming plastic parts .
Hi there. Yes I could do with something like that for sure. Many thanks indeed for your great feedback. Much appreciated 😁👍
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Thanks for watching 😁👍
I do struggle to find uses for my Dremel, but with that I would worry that it would still need reinforcing in some style, so I think option B is the preferred option 🤔
Oh yeah I quite often forget that I've got a Dremel type tool but it has been useful for taking bits of plastic out of chassis' when doing mods. People are telling me that the trimmed plastic one is still strong enough but I reckon that the metal one is better. Many thanks for watching and your feedback 😁👍👍
How on earth did you crack a Kimbrough servo saver 😂 You are too hardcore Pete...next level toughness required. I trimmed mine with a Dremel, well, a fake Dremel from Aldi. Good video although it's not Tamiya so I have no clue what any of this stuff is about, but you may be pleased to hear I have bought a brush less motor recently....lipo next. Don't rush me....all in good time. Lol
OMG....just seen your amazing thumbs up graphic!!!!!
Hiya Damian. Oh I just did one little cut with the clippers and it all broke apart! Wasn't expecting that. I think it would be good where you want a servo saver that shape like on a lot of the Tamiyas. Ooh brushless you say? What's that going in? Yeah lipo will pep up your cars even more. Oh yeah I found that new 3d thumbs up thing in the editor. Quite cool isn't it. Cheers for watching mate. Hope all is well 😁
@@PeteWylieRC No idea what the motor is going in but it was a good deal...may dsit there for a year before I get to it lol I will send you a message with what I got. You can tell me more no doubt.
cool video! could you do one on center drive shaft motor mount an slipper clutch? I'm having issues w 4s kraton an outcast. it's a little confusing what goes were w bearings an all
Many thanks. I've taken most bits apart on the 3s cars in various videos. Did they cover what you wanted to know? They are pretty much the same.
I will try Losi LMT Saver with Mod. On my Arrma 3s the stock red Arrma 4s v1 Saver is fine. But the big wheels on the 4s v2 need stronger savers.
Hi there. Oh yes I saw somebody putting the lmt servo saver in one of these. He did need to put spacers in to raise up the servo. Hope it works out for you. Many thanks for your great feedback 😁👍☺️
Hey thanks for the video! Just wanted to clarify is this the outcast 4s v2? Also is this the listed application for the HR saver or was this meant for the v1 truck? Thanks!
Hi there. Yeah it's a v2 Outcast. There is no difference in the fitment of the servo saver between the different versions of the car. This will fit the 3s cars too. Thanks for watching 😁👍
Hi there Pete, a nice upgrade for sure, shame about the Kimbrough servo saver, I’m sure trimming it with a junior hacksaw or multitool would have helped. Luckily the Hot Racing servo saver was on hand too (good thinking having a plan B) 😊😊. Still, I think the fun of driving the Kraton is the skill, due to is characteristics, which you managed to master my good friend. Looks like it’s still a hoot 😊😊best wishes to you and the family 😊
Hiya John. Oh yes I should have been more careful with the trimming of that Kimbrough servo saver. There was a bit of a gap before the other one arrived from China. Yes this thing is still fun and it's certainly good at wheelies. Many thanks for watching and best wishes to you and yours 😁👍👍
Hey Pete, any links for the hot racing servo saver please. thanks!
Here you go - www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002552233158.html?gatewayAdapt=Msite2Pc
I tried the HR servo saver on the kraton 4s 2.5 latest edition had no luck, I let my brother drive the truck and he says “what the hell is wrong with the steering lol 😂 😅
Oh really, that's interesting. I found it to be a great upgrade and I put it on my 4s Mojave too. Maybe try that Kimbrough one but beyond that I'm not sure what to suggest. Shame they didn't use one more like the 6s cars. Thanks for your feedback and hope you find a better solution 👍
@@PeteWylieRC I think the reason it didn’t work in my case the kraton uses large tires and has a wide stance, it may be the stock servo.
You don't need to remove the whole receiver box to remove the servo, buddy
I'm just showing that you can get that whole unit out if you want to. Some people say that's easier. When I actually change the servo saver in the video I'm leaving that in place. It's just to show different options. Thanks for your feedback 👍
There several places to discover how to do this and they all advise you to cut the "ears" off. Why this fella made a video telling folks how to do something without a tally knowing how is beyond me. FFS if you don't know what you're doing don't claim that you do. Waste of time.
Well like most UA-cam channels I'm just somebody who does a hobby sharing what I'm up to with a generally friendly community. I do explain my mistake with the Kimbrough servo saver and what I should have done and then showed the Hot Racing upgrade and did a test drive with it. I shared my thoughts on what I think of the truck and the upgrade. Nowhere do I say that I know what I'm doing. If you already know so much about this then why are you even watching and why don't you make a video about how to do it properly. I receive very few negative comments and the ones I do get are always from channels with no content like yours. Like I say this is mostly a friendly community so lets keep it that way.